#badgechat Archive

#BadgeChat was founded in December, 2014 by a group of educators who are passionate about credentialing learning and achieving. While there are thousands of us around the globe issuing badges to learners, there was not yet a regular twitter chat for those of us in the K-12 space to gather for learning and sharing about badging. After reaching out to leaders in the field (like the good folks at Mozilla and The Badge Alliance) for their thoughts, #BadgeChat was born.

Monday August 6, 2018
6:30 PM EDT

  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:30 PM EDT
    Welcome to #BadgeChat! Please take a moment to say Hi and let us know where you are...and your interest in Digital Badge Credentials!
  • Benjaroome Aug 6 @ 6:31 PM EDT
    Excited to be back for another #badgechat! I run the platform @BadgeList
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:32 PM EDT
    I'm Lesley Voigt, the Associate Director of The Digital Credentials Institute. I'm looking forward to chatting with you all today! #badgechat
  • randysquier Aug 6 @ 6:32 PM EDT
    Hello from hot hazy humid upstate NY #badgechat
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:32 PM EDT
    @randysquier, happy to have you here! Sorry about the hot weather... #badgechat
  • digitalcred Aug 6 @ 6:32 PM EDT
    Greetings from the Digital Credentials Institute #badgechat
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:33 PM EDT
    @benjaroome, excited to hear more about your platform! Glad you could join us! #badgechat
  • markjotter Aug 6 @ 6:33 PM EDT
    Mark from @participate. Currently on vacation up in Nova Scotia so will be ducking in and out #badgechat
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:34 PM EDT
    First question coming up. We use the format Q1 (Question1) - A1 (Answer1). Please use accordingly and remember to include the #badgechat hashtag in your tweet:) ...here's a preview
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:34 PM EDT
    @participate, Hi Mark! Glad you could make it...even while on vacation - that's dedication! :) #badgechat
  • Kyle_Clements1 Aug 6 @ 6:35 PM EDT
    #badgechat I'm Kyle from UT. Learning Experience Designer at Western Governors University. Major fan of all things related to digital credentialling.
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:35 PM EDT
    Hi Kyle! Glad you could join us. Very interested in your perspective on this. #badgechat
    In reply to @Kyle_Clements1
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:36 PM EDT
    Here we go... #badgechat
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:37 PM EDT
    A few ideas to ponder as we think about Badge Taxonomy #badgechat
  • Kyle_Clements1 Aug 6 @ 6:37 PM EDT
    A1: I think taxonomies can provide useful overviews of what is possible in badging. It also helps point out what hasn't been done yet. #badgechat
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:37 PM EDT
  • Benjaroome Aug 6 @ 6:38 PM EDT
    A1: A searchable badge taxonomy would help folks find credentials that will be relevant to them, either as an earner or as someone looking to hire a badge holder for a specific job role. #badgechat
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:38 PM EDT
    "...Hasn't been done." You're exactly right. That's why I feel this conversation is so important. Badges are running wild...how do we put a few harnesses around them? #badgechat
    In reply to @Kyle_Clements1
  • CreditFlex Aug 6 @ 6:39 PM EDT
    A1 This Q came up today in the @WeAreLRNG community of practice: How can badges be more searchable? #badgechat
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:39 PM EDT
    Yes, I like this idea - the more discoverable, the better off we all are! #badgechat
    In reply to @Benjaroome
  • randysquier Aug 6 @ 6:40 PM EDT
    A1 Having a taxonomy for badges would be helpful to share across organizations. Would simplify the lexicon as well. #badgechat
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:40 PM EDT
    Were there any interesting responses that came from that? We're all trying to come up with a great answer to this! Glad others are talking about it. #badgechat
    In reply to @CreditFlex, @WeAreLRNG
  • markjotter Aug 6 @ 6:40 PM EDT
    A1: clear classification can help hold off the clamor for standardization #badgechat
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:41 PM EDT
    Boom-yes! The whole concept of badges is to allow individuality and creation, we don't want to stifle them, but we do need to categorize them somehow! #badgechat
    In reply to @markjotter
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:42 PM EDT
  • markjotter Aug 6 @ 6:42 PM EDT
    Did you discuss @credengine ? #badgechat
    In reply to @CreditFlex, @WeAreLRNG, @credengine
  • CreditFlex Aug 6 @ 6:43 PM EDT
    Mainly that stakeholders are expressing need to see badges help teens become connected, employed. #badgechat
    In reply to @LesVoigt, @WeAreLRNG
  • digitalcred Aug 6 @ 6:43 PM EDT
    Yes we did. They are very excited about the taxonomy that I proposed #badgechat
  • Benjaroome Aug 6 @ 6:43 PM EDT
    Yeah. Agreed. I think a lot of the people clamoring for standardization don't really understand the core values of digital credentials. Not all badges need to be associated with a standard. It does help every badge to be properly organized. #badgechat
    In reply to @markjotter
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:43 PM EDT
    Think of those areas we already define Knowledge, Skills, Abilities - Participation #badgechat
  • Kyle_Clements1 Aug 6 @ 6:44 PM EDT
    A2: Taxonomy ideas: based on subject, type of issuer, criteria/evaluation type, level of scope. #badgechat
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:45 PM EDT
    Great ideas! Criteria/evaluation are definitely on the top of my list. #badgechat
    In reply to @Kyle_Clements1
  • randysquier Aug 6 @ 6:45 PM EDT
    A1 I'm thinking broad "levels" that would be more recognizable to educators, like Blooms or DOK or SAMR. #badgechat
  • Benjaroome Aug 6 @ 6:45 PM EDT
    A2: I think it makes sense to let a thousand flowers bloom. You don't want people quibbling over philosophical issues in taxonomy. Let classification tags proliferate and have a wikipedia-like community model in place to assign tags to badges. #badgechat
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:46 PM EDT
    Definitely, but we need to think about our other large audience - work force. Do they understand the same terminology? #badgechat
    In reply to @randysquier
  • CreditFlex Aug 6 @ 6:46 PM EDT
    🤗 I’d forgotten about it. Thanks! #badgechat
    In reply to @markjotter, @WeAreLRNG, @credengine
  • randysquier Aug 6 @ 6:47 PM EDT
    #badgechat we @CoxAthSchools are using our life ready badges to help students demonstrate competencies and have local Chamber endorsing them.
    In reply to @CreditFlex, @LesVoigt, @WeAreLRNG, @CoxAthSchools
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:48 PM EDT
    Very true, I can see a need to classify a participation badge differently than a badge with a formal assessment - or to broadcast it differently to employers. #badgechat
    In reply to @Benjaroome
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:48 PM EDT
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:50 PM EDT
    A3: Attending a seminar (not assessed) vs. formally assessed might be one example of each of these. #badgechat
  • Benjaroome Aug 6 @ 6:50 PM EDT
    Right. So we want to avoid limiting the categories a badge can be associated with. This also speaks to your point about terminological discrepancies. We need to have a conversation, not a series of edicts. #badgechat
    In reply to @LesVoigt
  • randysquier Aug 6 @ 6:50 PM EDT
    A3 informal would be attendance badges. Formal have evidence of learning, completing a challenge. #badgechat
  • Kyle_Clements1 Aug 6 @ 6:52 PM EDT
    A3) informal: I earned a badge for watching the solar eclipse last summer. #badgechat
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:53 PM EDT
    Interesting thought, a badge could live within multiple categories rather than be limited to only one. Yes a conversation is needed! This is just the beginning #badgechat
    In reply to @Benjaroome
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:53 PM EDT
    LOL! I think that's great - I suppose it would help showcase your interests. I think I earned one while walking through Target (buying school supplies). Not sure how that helps me... #badgechat
    In reply to @Kyle_Clements1
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:54 PM EDT
  • Benjaroome Aug 6 @ 6:54 PM EDT
    A3: A formal badge is most likely something associated with an assessment. Its probably issued by a recognized learning institution #badgechat An informal badge might earned for activities done with an online community such as this one!
  • randysquier Aug 6 @ 6:55 PM EDT
    #badgechat, we've categorized badges within multiple categories, such as PLC and student directed learning, but not created levels.
    In reply to @LesVoigt, @Benjaroome
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:56 PM EDT
    Do you see levels as being useful - or becoming useful as your badging grows? #badgechat
    In reply to @randysquier, @Benjaroome
  • Benjaroome Aug 6 @ 6:56 PM EDT
    Yes. I firmly believe that it is absurd to think that any classification system can neatly divide every object of classification into a single category. The world does not neatly conform to the mind's categories. #badgechat
    In reply to @LesVoigt
  • Benjaroome Aug 6 @ 6:57 PM EDT
    In my view, levels are going to be far less relevant than areas of expertise and competency. There's really no good way to define levels across institutions. Just make it so that badges are easy to find and you've done your job. #badgechat
    In reply to @LesVoigt, @randysquier
  • Benjaroome Aug 6 @ 6:58 PM EDT
    Exactly. The subject area is far more relevant than any level you might ascribe to a badge. #badgechat.
    In reply to @randysquier, @LesVoigt
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 6:59 PM EDT
    Agreed. #badgechat
    In reply to @Benjaroome
  • randysquier Aug 6 @ 6:59 PM EDT
    a4 This would be beneficial, I still must do a full tutorial about what micro-credentials are to outside #badgechat
  • markjotter Aug 6 @ 6:59 PM EDT
    Where do you fall on expiration dates for demonstrated competencies? #badgechat
    In reply to @Benjaroome, @LesVoigt, @randysquier
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 7:00 PM EDT
    I would love to see that! #badgechat
    In reply to @randysquier
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 7:01 PM EDT
    Such a gray area. I think it totally depends on the skill/competency. Obviously once you've learned it, the knowledge doesn't disappear, but if a newer version comes out, it makes sense to put a timestamp or expiration on the old version. #badgechat
    In reply to @markjotter, @Benjaroome, @randysquier
  • Benjaroome Aug 6 @ 7:01 PM EDT
    A4: Create categories that are relevant to specific job roles. Hiring managers want to find people with the right skills for the job. Accurately communicate the skills people have/need for a job and you solve a big problem. #badgechat
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 7:02 PM EDT
    Yes, when we designed badges for our Medical Assistant program, we utilized job descriptions to determine what the program was teaching, but not conveying to employers well or completely missing. #badgechat
    In reply to @Benjaroome
  • Benjaroome Aug 6 @ 7:03 PM EDT
    If the badge is issued for PD and needs to be renewed, the badge needs to expire. Otherwise, I don't think badges need an expiration date. #badgechat @markjotter
    In reply to @LesVoigt, @markjotter, @randysquier, @markjotter
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 7:03 PM EDT
    However, if you expire something - you need to have the new version ready to go... #badgechat
    In reply to @markjotter, @Benjaroome, @randysquier
  • randysquier Aug 6 @ 7:04 PM EDT
    #badgechat Good question. This is a reason micro-credentials/badges are gaining recognition, the idea they are more nimble, responsive to changes than a degree that is often outdated before a student completes four years.
    In reply to @markjotter, @Benjaroome, @LesVoigt
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 7:04 PM EDT
    We are past our time here, but I'm happy to keep the conversation going for anyone that is interested! Thank you to all who participated, and to those who were lurking out there - I hope this sparks conversations in your world! #badgechat
  • markjotter Aug 6 @ 7:04 PM EDT
    Agree. Was also thinking about skills that can degrade without practice (like my French skills ;-) #badgechat
    In reply to @LesVoigt, @Benjaroome, @randysquier
  • Benjaroome Aug 6 @ 7:07 PM EDT
    Bahahaha. Yeah. 19 years after high school I should probably have my French badge revoked. Not that I necessarily should have earned it in the first place... #badgechat Madame Chan tried her best but languages aren't meant to be learned in the classroom.
    In reply to @markjotter, @LesVoigt, @randysquier
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 7:07 PM EDT
    Understood, my H.S. Spanish is definitely not something I would put on a resume...but a refresher course where I get a badge might be useful. #badgechat
    In reply to @markjotter, @Benjaroome, @randysquier
  • randysquier Aug 6 @ 7:08 PM EDT
    We are currently offering 3 levels for each attribute/skill, with the idea elem, middle and high could/would develop the attributes as they grow up. #badgechat
  • markjotter Aug 6 @ 7:08 PM EDT
    You and me both, friend. You and me both. #badgechat
    In reply to @Benjaroome, @LesVoigt, @randysquier
  • Benjaroome Aug 6 @ 7:08 PM EDT
    Thanks so much for moderating @LesVoigt! Really interesting convo! Are you working on a specific taxonomy project, or is this a theoretical conversation? #badgechat
    In reply to @LesVoigt, @LesVoigt
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 7:09 PM EDT
    Love it. I like to think of this as a rubric...which level are you at - at the moment. Room for feedback and growth. #badgechat
    In reply to @randysquier
  • Benjaroome Aug 6 @ 7:09 PM EDT
    Thanks to all the #badgechat folks who showed up this week. I missed these conversations!
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 7:10 PM EDT
    We are trying to put some parameters around badges. Our employers want to know if someone just sat in a classroom or were actively assessed (hands' on). I know it says in the "how to earn a badge", but they don't always read that far... #badgechat
    In reply to @Benjaroome
  • markjotter Aug 6 @ 7:11 PM EDT
    Thanks @LesVoigt for moderating ! Enjoyed learning with everyone!#badgechat
  • LesVoigt Aug 6 @ 7:12 PM EDT
    Thanks again to everyone! Let's #BadgeChat again soon!
  • randysquier Aug 6 @ 7:12 PM EDT
    Thanks @LesVoigt for moderating . #badgechat