#ATchat Archive

#ATchat makes education and educational materials accessible to all students.
Wednesday February 8, 2017
8:00 PM EST
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Welcome to #Atchat. Our topic tonight is AT Myths and Misconceptions. We touched on this topic last week. Let’s explore deeper.
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Please introduce yourself and tell us how many snow days you have had this year, if any. (of course it depends upon where you live) #ATchat
  • participatechat Feb 8 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Participate in the upcoming #ATchat by sharing resources and collaborating at https://t.co/LbdD5CgZib
  • EdTechBham Feb 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Hi everyone! Brian from Bellingham, WA. Ed Tech TOSA for Bellingham public Schools. #ATchat Tomorrow will make 7.
  • EGraniero Feb 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Emily Graniero from CT. Now working as a subsititute paraprofessinal in a local schoool district #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
    @EGraniero @EdTechBham Welcome! Great to have you here! #ATchat
    In reply to @GarrityS20, @EGraniero, @EdTechBham
  • MaegeK Feb 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Maegan SLP from CT I've had 1 snow day, but looks like two tomorrow #ATchat
  • den_hunt Feb 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
    #atchat Denise Hunt. No snow here in SoCal!
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Unfortunately, my partner in crime, @mmatp, isn't able to join us tonight. I'll be hosting solo. Please be kind. #ATchat
    In reply to @mmatp
  • Shaun_SLP Feb 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
    #atchat Shaun in Calgary. no snow days! Lots of snow tho. I think we only get snow days if the city turns into the Arctic overnight!
  • GarrityS20 Feb 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Hi I'm Stacey from CT and we will have our first snow day tomorrow! #ATchat
  • lindsayjoslater Feb 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Lindsay from Ohio...I have had 2 snow days (because my kids were off.) #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
    @Shaun_SLP @den_hunt @lindsayjoslater Great to see everyone tonight! #ATchat
    In reply to @MaegeK, @Shaun_SLP, @den_hunt, @lindsayjoslater
  • NWingate5 Feb 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Nicole, SLP Bluffton, IN. #ATchat
  • TanyaSSLP Feb 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Tanya from MA. First one tomorrow! Much needed! #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
    We will use the Q1, A1 format today. Don’t forget to include the #atchat hashtag
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
    First question coming up. #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
    @NWingate5 Woohoo! Glad you made it! #ATchat
    In reply to @TanyaSSLP, @NWingate5
  • dmayo88 Feb 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
    From western ma but no snow days working at a non profit not a school. #atchat
  • lynda_laugavitz Feb 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Lynda from Wisconsin...no snow days for me yet. #atchat
  • EdTechBham Feb 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Thanks for hosting! @KarenJan #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KerriHslp Feb 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
    First one in RI tomorrow #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Last week, with @PrAACticalAAC we touched upon the subject of AT Myths. Let's continue it tonight. 1st question coming up. #ATchat
    In reply to @PrAACticalAAC
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Q1: #ATChat - What are the most common myths and misconceptions you encounter from your colleagues?
  • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Leslie - AT specialist from LI, NY #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:04 PM EST
    @lynda_laugavitz @dmayo88 Nice to see you here! We're expecting the first snow day tomorrow - 8 -14 inches predicted. #ATchat
    In reply to @KerriHslp, @lynda_laugavitz, @dmayo88
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Thank you! #ATchat
    In reply to @EdTechBham
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Love when you can join the conversation! #ATchat
    In reply to @lrdichiara
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
    A1:Myth-even though AT consideration for all Ss on IEPs was written into law in 1997, AT is only for Ss w/ complex special needs #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
    I see the fairness issue as 1 of the greatest myths.Fair doesn't mean giving everyone the same, instead give everyone what they need #atchat
  • alysstets Feb 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Prerequisite skills; most dangerous assumption instead if least #ATchat
  • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
    A1: The greatest misconception/myth is eBooks are a crutch or hinder students' ability to read #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Great article about AT Myths and Ss with LDs by @ATDyslexia . #ATchat
    In reply to @ATDyslexia
  • MaegeK Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
    A1: I encounter the myth that AT will solve everything with no effort from steakholders. The magic pill myth #ATchat
  • NWingate5 Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
    A1 Some get caught up on the pic symbol rather than motor planning piece. #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
    A1 - yes, common misconception! #ATchat @alysstets
    In reply to @alysstets
  • alysstets Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
    A1: Prerequisite skills; most dangerous assumption instead if least #ATchat
  • EGraniero Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
    A1: Myth: if AAC in introduced children will never speak #atchat
  • Shaun_SLP Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
    #atchat A1) num 1 is that immediate performance is the only way to determine success. Sad to hear this from other therapists
  • TanyaSSLP Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
    A1: With regard to AAC, must master low-tech first, must prove understanding of symbols, must have a certain level of cognition #atchat
  • den_hunt Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
    a1 AT benefits all students who are struggling. #atchat
  • wernedat Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
    hi - Elisa from Florida, temp relocated to Cleveland OH where I'll lurk in #atchat this wk as I recover from pretty major surgery
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • Shaun_SLP Feb 8 @ 8:07 PM EST
    #atchat A1) the need for "certain" prerequisite skills is a close 2nd
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Yup - the AT as crutch myth. I wrote a blog post about it. @lrdichiara #ATchat
    In reply to @lrdichiara
    • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
      A1: The greatest misconception/myth is eBooks are a crutch or hinder students' ability to read #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:08 PM EST
    @wernedat So glad you an join us - Speedy recovery! #ATchat
    In reply to @wernedat
    • wernedat Feb 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
      hi - Elisa from Florida, temp relocated to Cleveland OH where I'll lurk in #atchat this wk as I recover from pretty major surgery
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • tsocko Feb 8 @ 8:08 PM EST
    A1: That tech is a crutch only needed by kids who "can't" #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KerriHslp Feb 8 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1 Once tools are given to S, they should be all set--missing ongoing need for training, teaching, support, reassessment #ATchat
  • den_hunt Feb 8 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1 ...AT is only a device. Classroom strategies are not welcomed by many Ts. #atchat
  • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1: AT is only for low incidence students. AT is for everyone #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Woohoo - great to see you here! #ATchat
    In reply to @tsocko
    • tsocko Feb 8 @ 8:08 PM EST
      A1: That tech is a crutch only needed by kids who "can't" #atchat
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Sad, we are identifying so many AT myths. #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
    Q2: #ATchat Do you encounter different myths and misconceptions when working with parents? If so, what are they?
  • lindsayjoslater Feb 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1: AT that is regularly available to S does not need to be written in the IEP. #atchat
  • lynda_laugavitz Feb 8 @ 8:11 PM EST
    There are so many tools which I may suggest as AT that I find myself using every day. AT helps us all. #ATchat
    In reply to @lrdichiara
  • alysstets Feb 8 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A2: the iPad is the answer to all...smh... #ATchat
  • tdcraw Feb 8 @ 8:11 PM EST
    Joining in late from Oklahoma but happy I can tonight. #ATchat
  • JudithSchoonov1 Feb 8 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A-1 Myth: It's gotta be "techie" to be assistive technology #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • dmayo88 Feb 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
    #atchat a2. That using at means they can't do a task instead of understanding it will help them accomplish the task independently
  • Shaun_SLP Feb 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
    #atchat the biggie is the worry that #aac will affect their child's ability to vocalize
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • tdcraw Feb 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1 using audio books will prevent them from reading #ATchat
  • tsocko Feb 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
    Greatest misconception by parents is that AT will be a silver bullet. #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • MaegeK Feb 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A2: it's the tool not the way you use said tool that matters #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
    @JudithSchoonov1 Great to see you here! #ATchat (I think I missed welcoming some people.)
    In reply to @tdcraw, @JudithSchoonov1
  • TrynSlp Feb 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1 that behaviorally based methods r needed to teach AAC to Ss with ASDs #ATCHAT
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • Megmburns02 Feb 8 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A1: That AT shouldn't be introduced too early - the thought that you have to exhaust other interventions first #atchat
  • Shaun_SLP Feb 8 @ 8:13 PM EST
    #atchat A2
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • den_hunt Feb 8 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A2. My child loves iPads and computers! Can't they get one? #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:13 PM EST
    I see that but sometimes they want to hold off on the AT - also a myth. #ATchat
    In reply to @tsocko
    • tsocko Feb 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
      Greatest misconception by parents is that AT will be a silver bullet. #atchat
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • KerriHslp Feb 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A2 Myth: effective implementation is quick and easy #ATchat
  • giveawayjoox Feb 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
    #atchat A1) the need for "certain" prerequisite skills is a close 2nd
  • JudithSchoonov1 Feb 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
    U R so right! #ATChat
    In reply to @KerriHslp
  • tsocko Feb 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
    I don't see that too often in my district. #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • tdcraw Feb 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A1 this works for ____ so it works for all. #ATchat
  • EdTechBham Feb 8 @ 8:15 PM EST
    I agree @lrdichiara. In general I think colleagues see AT as a crutch. #atchat
    In reply to @lrdichiara
  • VickiBostonSLP Feb 8 @ 8:15 PM EST
    and sometimes this is asked by saying, "do you think she'll ever talk?" Careful answer needed here! #ATchat
    In reply to @Shaun_SLP
  • AssignmentHelpN Feb 8 @ 8:15 PM EST
    #atchat #AVIDchat #csk8 #ctedlead #currichat #EdBeat #2ndchat A Quick Guide on How to Write a Book Review https://t.co/3BnLyV1BCF
  • massignmenthelp Feb 8 @ 8:15 PM EST
    #atchat #AVIDchat #csk8 #ctedlead #currichat #EdBeat #edubkcl #2ndchat Start a blog in college https://t.co/SW64eeDA9h
  • TanyaSSLP Feb 8 @ 8:15 PM EST
    A2: They like technology too much, it could never be useful for AT/AAC #atchat
  • lynda_laugavitz Feb 8 @ 8:15 PM EST
    A2 Myth #atchat AT is provided by a "person" when in fact it needs to be a team (and sometimes building-wide) endeavor
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:16 PM EST
    Q3: #ATchat - Do you find students have misconceptions about AT?
  • Shaun_SLP Feb 8 @ 8:16 PM EST
    #atchat if I had a nickle for every time I've said "every child is different" and "I wish I had a crystal ball"
    In reply to @VickiBostonSLP
  • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A2: Ss are proficient because they use devices to play games...Using a device educationally is different from interactive gaming #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:16 PM EST
    Oops meant to add the link - https://t.co/xgY0zzR2aK #ATchat @ATDyslexia @EdTechBham
    In reply to @ATDyslexia, @EdTechBham
  • alysstets Feb 8 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A2 myth....AT- it's only a specialists' job. sorry--it's everyone's responsibility! #ATchat
  • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:17 PM EST
    I"m fortunate that many I work with see the benefit of it! But i know the struggle for many is very real! #ATchat
    In reply to @EdTechBham
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:17 PM EST
    Way off of my game - here's the link to @ATDyslexia's article https://t.co/M7rRAjJIxV #ATchat
    In reply to @ATDyslexia
    • EdTechBham Feb 8 @ 8:15 PM EST
      can we get a link?
      In reply to @KarenJan, @ATDyslexia
  • lynda_laugavitz Feb 8 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A3: #atchat AT is for the kids who "can't do."
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:17 PM EST
    AGREE! @alysstets #ATchat
    In reply to @alysstets
    • alysstets Feb 8 @ 8:17 PM EST
      A2 myth....AT- it's only a specialists' job. sorry--it's everyone's responsibility! #ATchat
  • tdcraw Feb 8 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A3 many can't picture the benefit only see how they will stand out but get them hooked and they will advocate for others. #ATchat
  • live_simplelife Feb 8 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A2 #atchat parent doesn't want student to "rely on" AT
  • tsocko Feb 8 @ 8:18 PM EST
    In my gen ed population Ss can assume falsely that the AT will make tasks "easy" for them as opposed to accessible. #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • JudithSchoonov1 Feb 8 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A-2 some parents feel AT is something their student is "entitled to" without understanding how it relates to need #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • EdTechBham Feb 8 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A2 Sadly, I had few parents really involved. #ATchat
  • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:18 PM EST
    This post has a great info graphic about debunking myths about audiobooks! #ATchat https://t.co/eiyfl5KQOA
  • VickiBostonSLP Feb 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
    yep, in #AugComm we talk about operational competency and then linguistic, social & strategic competencies. #ATchat
    In reply to @lrdichiara
  • lynda_laugavitz Feb 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A3: #atchat "I don't need that."
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
    Yes, they told me S was resistant to AT. Showed him features in iOS10 and he shared w/ his classmates. #ATistheanswer #ATchat
    In reply to @tdcraw
    • tdcraw Feb 8 @ 8:18 PM EST
      A3 many can't picture the benefit only see how they will stand out but get them hooked and they will advocate for others. #ATchat
  • Shaun_SLP Feb 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
    #atchat #atchat A3) I've seen this with older students: the fear that they will stand out and be different.
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:20 PM EST
    Did you know #ATchat has a @voxer group too? Check out https://t.co/YOmcNf29Xu to sign up
    In reply to @voxer
  • tsocko Feb 8 @ 8:20 PM EST
    Yep. And classroom teachers often lack training to use efficiently w/in class dynamic. #atchat
    In reply to @lynda_laugavitz
  • alysstets Feb 8 @ 8:20 PM EST
    A3: original AT may now fall more into realm of IT--Ss dont realize features are supporting their needs vs. what everyone uses now #ATchat
  • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:20 PM EST
    Most parents do understand the difference once it has been explained....It's just an automatic assumption #atchat
    In reply to @VickiBostonSLP
  • jimsonthego Feb 8 @ 8:20 PM EST
    including the student #atchat the student should know he or she has a voice, and that it will be heard and impactful
    In reply to @alysstets
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:20 PM EST
    The "I don't want to be different" myth. The AT can replace 1:1 adult support which makes them different, right? #ATchat
  • EdTechBham Feb 8 @ 8:21 PM EST
    A3 Yes, by the time Ss got to me in 4th they had lost much self efficacy. Many wanted the tech to fix everything. #ATchat
  • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:21 PM EST
    YES!!! My greatest take away (aside from UDL pratices) is moving away from the expert model! #atchat
    In reply to @alysstets
  • Shaun_SLP Feb 8 @ 8:22 PM EST
    it's very much a reflex for parents #atchat
    In reply to @lrdichiara, @VickiBostonSLP
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:22 PM EST
    So what happens when they discover that's not true? #ATchat
    In reply to @tsocko
    • tsocko Feb 8 @ 8:18 PM EST
      In my gen ed population Ss can assume falsely that the AT will make tasks "easy" for them as opposed to accessible. #atchat
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Q4 coming up. #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:24 PM EST
    Q4 Why do you think AT myths and misconceptions persist? #ATchat
  • tsocko Feb 8 @ 8:24 PM EST
    Hopefully the relationship between T and S will push student to persist. #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • den_hunt Feb 8 @ 8:24 PM EST
    #ATchat A3 and IEP teams do not understand how to pre-screen for AT.
    • Shaun_SLP Feb 8 @ 8:22 PM EST
      it's very much a reflex for parents #atchat
      In reply to @lrdichiara, @VickiBostonSLP
  • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:24 PM EST
    I have had this happen occassionally! Abandonment can occur when they realize it wont do the work for them. #Atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @tsocko
  • tdcraw Feb 8 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A3 Ss expect Ts to be supportive & helpful w/problem solving AT sadly many take not my job or can't figure how 2 integrate to class #ATchat
  • MaegeK Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A4 1 it is a young constantly changing field, 2 many professionals were given misinformation by people who are uniformed 3 laziness #ATchat
  • den_hunt Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
    No time for PD for staff to learn AT policies and procedures. #atchat
  • tsocko Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
    lack of ownership of the process, training, funding, time... #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • GarrityS20 Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A4: I find that the staff I work with don't know what AT is out there to use. We aren't offered PDs about it #ATchat
  • KerriHslp Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
    I wonder if Ss who have never known anything different might have trouble perceiving that 1:1 is different in 1st place #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • tdcraw Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A4 fear and failing to provide supportive environment from admin to students. #ATchat
  • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A4: Lack of training, awareness, exposure, and a general misunderstanding of the power of AT in the right hands #ATchat
  • EGraniero Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A4: myths persist b/c everyone is not aware what what AT is and are only exposed to it if they come across someone who needs/uses it #atchat
  • jimsonthego Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
    #atchat what to do about overcoming myths? Working to make all tools available to all students, as much as possible to alleviate stigma.
  • EdTechBham Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A3 p.2 A screw driver is a great tool but I have to do something to make it work AND it doesn't work in all settings. Same with AT. #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:27 PM EST
    Thanks for that point, @KerriHslp. I never thought of it that way. #ATchat
    In reply to @KerriHslp
    • KerriHslp Feb 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
      I wonder if Ss who have never known anything different might have trouble perceiving that 1:1 is different in 1st place #ATchat
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • JudithSchoonov1 Feb 8 @ 8:27 PM EST
    interesting observation #ATchat
    In reply to @KerriHslp, @KarenJan
  • ATDyslexia Feb 8 @ 8:27 PM EST
    Parents definitely have this concern. Here's my response in an @UnderstoodOrg piece: https://t.co/mgmhibN15s #ATchat
    In reply to @UnderstoodOrg
    • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
      A1: The greatest misconception/myth is eBooks are a crutch or hinder students' ability to read #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:28 PM EST
    @JudithSchoonov1 @KerriHslp It is an interesting observation, isn't it? #ATchat
    In reply to @JudithSchoonov1, @KerriHslp
  • alysstets Feb 8 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A4: myths cont. due to need for knowledge, experience, new pedagogy, least dangerous assumption, PD #ATchat
  • TrynSlp Feb 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
    #ATChat it is sometimes easier to assume lack of Competence than to learn new teaching methods/skills
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Love this conversation tonight! Sorry I didn't have time to post the questions ahead of time We will tackle solutions shortly. #ATchat
  • TanyaSSLP Feb 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A4: Some myths still exist because people do not put in the work 2 make implementation successful so they don't then see benefits #atchat
  • Shaun_SLP Feb 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
    #atchat been brought up before but I wonder if a certain degree of training needs to be done towards admin for trickle effect
    In reply to @EGraniero
  • dmayo88 Feb 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
    #atchat A4. Many myths exist because most people don't realize they use AT in their own lives
  • EGraniero Feb 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A4 Cont..i only started using ATwheni ran into problems in high school and at that time no one was there to guide me #atchat
  • lindsayjoslater Feb 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A4: Our "one size fits all" approach to instruction and a system that assumes S has the problem...no thought about access. #atchat
  • lynda_laugavitz Feb 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A4 #atchat @jimsonthego has the right idea. I'm finding as we have provided AT Tools site and district wide, they are more accepted.
    In reply to @jimsonthego
  • EduGladiators Feb 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
    ❤️SATURDAY #EduGladiators series continues w/@PaulONeill1972 moderating - Discipline from the ❤️! #ATchat #CPChat #csk8 #currichat #edbeat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Unfortunately, so true. It's the students "fault." @TrynSlp #ATchat
    In reply to @TrynSlp
    • TrynSlp Feb 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
      #ATChat it is sometimes easier to assume lack of Competence than to learn new teaching methods/skills
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • KerriHslp Feb 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
    A4 #ATchat @JudithSchoonov1 Also, 1:1 support is familiar and comfortable--AT might be scary because new and different #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @JudithSchoonov1
  • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
    I find most success by training the paras and student themselves! #atchat
    In reply to @Shaun_SLP, @EGraniero
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Agree - AT is ubiquitous - so many features built into smartphones and wearables #ATchat @dmayo88
    In reply to @dmayo88
    • dmayo88 Feb 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
      #atchat A4. Many myths exist because most people don't realize they use AT in their own lives
  • JudithSchoonov1 Feb 8 @ 8:31 PM EST
    that's where AT service delivery extends to creating a culture of expecting competence & decreasing dependence #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @KerriHslp
  • EGraniero Feb 8 @ 8:32 PM EST
    I thin its a combo of that and student knowing strengths and where they need mire support which can be offered by AT #atchat
    In reply to @Shaun_SLP
  • Shaun_SLP Feb 8 @ 8:32 PM EST
    #atchat definitely have to focus on frontline staff! But I'm thinking in terms of info sharing and pressure
    In reply to @lrdichiara, @EGraniero
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Really appreciate this perspective as I always wondered why acceptance of para support wasn't questioned @KerriHslp @JudithSchoonov1 #ATchat
    In reply to @KerriHslp, @JudithSchoonov1
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Q5 What are the most effective ways you have found to overcome common AT Myths and Misconceptions? #ATchat
  • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Even focusing on influential staff members who can promote, support&help colleagues 2 see the potential of AT #ATChat
    In reply to @Shaun_SLP, @EGraniero
  • ATDyslexia Feb 8 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Yes, unfortunately, #AlternateFacts are nothing new. We must continue to educate about #AssistiveTech! #ATchat
  • Shaun_SLP Feb 8 @ 8:34 PM EST
    #atchat that's a much nicer way of putting it :)
    In reply to @lrdichiara, @EGraniero
  • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A5... #ATchat
    • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:34 PM EST
      Even focusing on influential staff members who can promote, support&help colleagues 2 see the potential of AT #ATChat
      In reply to @Shaun_SLP, @EGraniero
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:35 PM EST
    Thanks for joining us tonight - your AT Myths https://t.co/FyJq0Pl0Si article is a great one. #ATchat
    In reply to @ATDyslexia
  • alysstets Feb 8 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A5: video it...show hard evidence of effectiveness #ATchat
  • MaegeK Feb 8 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A5: the proof is in the pudding. Showing progress and staying steady in the face of doubt. When child succeeds they learn. #ATchat
  • JudithSchoonov1 Feb 8 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A-5 being present to dispel them. Actions & examples speak louder than words or at least as loud #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • Shaun_SLP Feb 8 @ 8:36 PM EST
    #atchat A5) leading by example (modelling!), Hands on education, and demonstrating some degree of success in the user
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • EdTechBham Feb 8 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A5 Overcome myths through convos, advocacy, training, & support. Being a TOSA has drastically change how I will teach in future. #atchat
  • MaegeK Feb 8 @ 8:37 PM EST
    @Shaun_SLP so important!! #ATchat
    In reply to @Shaun_SLP, @KarenJan, @Shaun_SLP
  • KerriHslp Feb 8 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A5 Involve all stakeholders in trials and decisions about AT #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:37 PM EST
    @JudithSchoonov1 @MaegeK @alysstets Great answers to Q5! #ATchat
    In reply to @Shaun_SLP, @JudithSchoonov1, @MaegeK, @alysstets
  • lynda_laugavitz Feb 8 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A5 #atchat Regular ed classroom training opportunities for entire class. Offering to return as "another set of hands" for a future lesson.
  • dmayo88 Feb 8 @ 8:37 PM EST
    #atchat A5 communication, communication, communication
  • lindsayjoslater Feb 8 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A5: Providing ongoing support and PD for S and staff around using the AT. #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:37 PM EST
    @lynda_laugavitz @dmayo88 @lindsayjoslater Yes, Yes, Yes! #ATchat
    In reply to @KerriHslp, @lynda_laugavitz, @dmayo88, @lindsayjoslater
  • tdcraw Feb 8 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A5 start with smallest simplest item first. Don't overwhelm Ss and Ts with too much at one time. Build up little at time. #ATchat
  • TanyaSSLP Feb 8 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A5: Train, model, 2 weeks later...repeat...Train, model, 2 weeks later...repeat. it's a cycle #atchat
  • Shaun_SLP Feb 8 @ 8:38 PM EST
    #atchat Yes!
    In reply to @dmayo88
  • EdTechBham Feb 8 @ 8:38 PM EST
    This why I love @TeachingChannel #atchat #assistivetech
    In reply to @TeachingChannel
  • lynda_laugavitz Feb 8 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A5 #atchat Train students who need AT the most as student mentors - experts to assist their peers.
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A5 sharing Data collection results (pre and post AT implementation) offers objective support to dispel myths. #ATchat
  • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A5: Know the myths so you can easily dispel them with examples of success and research based support. #ATchat
  • Shaun_SLP Feb 8 @ 8:40 PM EST
    #atchat the success piece is so big for both Ss and Ts, both have to see success to buy-in
    In reply to @tdcraw
  • EdTechBham Feb 8 @ 8:40 PM EST
    Can you share a few ways you do this? @lindsayjoslater #atchat Ipn what settings?
    In reply to @lindsayjoslater
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:40 PM EST
    What does that look like in your district? #ATchat @lindsayjoslater
    In reply to @lindsayjoslater
  • Shaun_SLP Feb 8 @ 8:41 PM EST
    #atchat love this idea. I've had recent success with it! I'm creating my own army of ALI minions!
    In reply to @lynda_laugavitz
  • lynda_laugavitz Feb 8 @ 8:41 PM EST
    A5 #atchat @KarenJan once in a while I have luck engaging a student in a "scientific experiment" to determine if AT helps them. Kinda fun.
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:41 PM EST
    A5: Ts have so much on their plates...AT has to be presented as a manageable solution. Go sloooow and work with the Ts comfort level #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:41 PM EST
    Can you explain more? @lynda_laugavitz #ATchat
    In reply to @lynda_laugavitz
    • lynda_laugavitz Feb 8 @ 8:41 PM EST
      A5 #atchat @KarenJan once in a while I have luck engaging a student in a "scientific experiment" to determine if AT helps them. Kinda fun.
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • Shaun_SLP Feb 8 @ 8:42 PM EST
    #atchat totally agree but... Important to be mindful of those who aren't necessarily "data-driven"
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • VickiBostonSLP Feb 8 @ 8:42 PM EST
    some things are such settled questions in my head that I forget not everyone understands. Being prepared is good. #ATChat
    In reply to @lrdichiara
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:43 PM EST
    Q6: Whose responsibility is it to dispel AT myths and misconceptions? #ATchat
  • KerriHslp Feb 8 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A5 Listen to Ts and staff and keep providing support where it's needed. Be creative #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:43 PM EST
    Yes! @lrdichiara How about we ask Ts to reflect on their practice & replace something that doesn't reach all Ss w/the tech that does #ATchat
    In reply to @lrdichiara
    • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:41 PM EST
      A5: Ts have so much on their plates...AT has to be presented as a manageable solution. Go sloooow and work with the Ts comfort level #ATchat
  • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:43 PM EST
    I completely agree! I sometimes forget too since AT is a part of my every day! #ATchat
    In reply to @VickiBostonSLP
  • EdTechBham Feb 8 @ 8:43 PM EST
    This has come up a lot in my district @lynda_laugavitz. Whether gen #edtech integration or #assistivetech. Empower Ss as trainers. #atchat
    In reply to @lynda_laugavitz
  • JudithSchoonov1 Feb 8 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A-6 everyone's! #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • MaegeK Feb 8 @ 8:44 PM EST
    A6: I think it should be a community effort, once s/he knows spread the wealth. #ATchat
  • lynda_laugavitz Feb 8 @ 8:44 PM EST
    #ATchat Help S. design a pre/post test around a skill. Take data with and without AT. Ask: "which way were you most successful?"
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:44 PM EST
    Ideally yes....Greatest hurdle is lack of tech resources for all Ss to do this. #Atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:44 PM EST
    Agree but how do we get buy-in of ownership? #ATchat @JudithSchoonov1
    In reply to @JudithSchoonov1
  • EGraniero Feb 8 @ 8:45 PM EST
    setting up student run help desks is an option, https://t.co/GxJlr67oip more info can also be found from ISTE #atchat
    • lynda_laugavitz Feb 8 @ 8:38 PM EST
      A5 #atchat Train students who need AT the most as student mentors - experts to assist their peers.
  • lynda_laugavitz Feb 8 @ 8:45 PM EST
    #ATchat AND sometimes "which way will you get a better grade?" Depends on the student....
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:45 PM EST
    That approach helps build metacognitive strategies and strategic competence. #ATchat @lynda_laugavitz
    In reply to @lynda_laugavitz
    • lynda_laugavitz Feb 8 @ 8:44 PM EST
      #ATchat Help S. design a pre/post test around a skill. Take data with and without AT. Ask: "which way were you most successful?"
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • alysstets Feb 8 @ 8:46 PM EST
    Q5 is a tough one...deeply rooted in personal/educational philosophy & pedagogy. #ATchat
  • Shaun_SLP Feb 8 @ 8:46 PM EST
    #atchat a6) has to be everybody! There will always be new myths and non-believers
  • JudithSchoonov1 Feb 8 @ 8:47 PM EST
    Again, being a visible presence, providing information, modeling, noting & celebrating what people r doing right #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:47 PM EST
    A6: Before debunking we need to get to the root as to WHY these myths exist in the first place. #atchat
  • alysstets Feb 8 @ 8:47 PM EST
    Q6 is a tough one...deeply rooted in personal/educational philosophy & pedagogy. #ATchat
  • lindsayjoslater Feb 8 @ 8:47 PM EST
    Ongoing parent communication about the plan, need for support at home & around use of AT as it was being implemented. #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:47 PM EST
    Thank you for the solutions-so important to offer solutions when we identify challenges. We can change the world! #ATchat
  • Shaun_SLP Feb 8 @ 8:48 PM EST
    #atchat seriously would be highlight of my life... Note to self for next Halloween!
    In reply to @VickiBostonSLP
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:48 PM EST
    Something to ponder - do they have a purpose? #ATchat
    In reply to @lrdichiara
    • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:47 PM EST
      A6: Before debunking we need to get to the root as to WHY these myths exist in the first place. #atchat
  • EGraniero Feb 8 @ 8:48 PM EST
    note: if you follow the link you must scroll down to the orange highlighted video. That is the one i am refering to. #atchat
  • TanyaSSLP Feb 8 @ 8:49 PM EST
    A6: Start strategically. Who in your school has some buy in? Work together to implement, invite others to observe & participate #atchat
  • VickiBostonSLP Feb 8 @ 8:49 PM EST
    A6: ideally everyone but some responsibility on administration to set a welcoming culture for AT (UDL!) to flourish, not as "add on" #ATchat
  • lindsayjoslater Feb 8 @ 8:49 PM EST
    We also wrote our training needs into the AT plan so we could make sure all stakeholders were considered as we met. #atchat
    In reply to @EdTechBham
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:49 PM EST
    Thanks for posting the link re student help desks. #ATchat
    In reply to @EGraniero
  • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:50 PM EST
    To debunk we need to understand why they are believed in to begin with....then we can start to create understanding #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:50 PM EST
    Q7 - in the last few minutes, what additional thoughts do you have about AT myths and misconceptions that we haven't discussed? #ATchat
  • EdTechBham Feb 8 @ 8:51 PM EST
    A6 All of us. Our dist. is examining AT and using #QIAT to improve what we do across the system. #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Hi! just posted the last one. #ATchat
    In reply to @FionaBushnellAT
  • Shaun_SLP Feb 8 @ 8:51 PM EST
    #atchat thoughts on getting to that point?
    In reply to @VickiBostonSLP
  • TrynSlp Feb 8 @ 8:51 PM EST
    #ATChat we model ALgS and let others see those "Aha" moments!
    In reply to @KarenJan, @JudithSchoonov1
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:52 PM EST
    Keep the convo going. Join our #ATchat Facebook group. https://t.co/Gah9ojvJdk
  • lindsayjoslater Feb 8 @ 8:52 PM EST
    I agree...must listen & then determine entry points for moving thinking beyond the myths. #atchat
    In reply to @lrdichiara, @KarenJan
  • MaegeK Feb 8 @ 8:52 PM EST
    A7 we need to make sure that we debunk myths with respect. Nothing worse then embarrassing a team member. #ATchat
  • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:53 PM EST
    Thanks for another great chat! #ATchat
  • FionaBushnellAT Feb 8 @ 8:53 PM EST
    Everyone. Sometimes I think it is a branding issue. People don't know or understand what we do. #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • alysstets Feb 8 @ 8:53 PM EST
    A7-- media catches onto hypes>teams get slammed with "my Ss needs X or (brand product)">imbalance of feature needs possible. #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Important point @MaegeK #Atchat
    In reply to @MaegeK
    • MaegeK Feb 8 @ 8:52 PM EST
      A7 we need to make sure that we debunk myths with respect. Nothing worse then embarrassing a team member. #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Don’t forget-we are always looking for guest moderators. Fill out the form: https://t.co/jp5B3BvIWy #ATchat
  • VickiBostonSLP Feb 8 @ 8:55 PM EST
    what I've seen work- 1: frank discussion on $ & benefits 2: admin chat w/other admin who have had success 3: parent push #ATchat
    In reply to @Shaun_SLP
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:55 PM EST
    Any topics people would like to make sure we cover the next few months? @mmatp and I are always open to ideas. #ATchat
    In reply to @mmatp
  • JesTVIOandM Feb 8 @ 8:55 PM EST
    Excellent and sciencey! Self eval based on data not just emotion e.g. I don't want to do it differently #ATchat
    In reply to @lynda_laugavitz, @KarenJan
  • lynda_laugavitz Feb 8 @ 8:55 PM EST
    A6 #atchat The Personalized Learning approach embraced by our district has begun to embrace UDL - things are blossoming from there So lucky!
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:56 PM EST
    Were there any first-timers here tonight? #ATchat
  • GarrityS20 Feb 8 @ 8:56 PM EST
    @KarenJan It was my first time here #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:57 PM EST
    Thank you for joining us. Hope you will return next Wednesday night! #ATchat
    In reply to @GarrityS20
  • lindsayjoslater Feb 8 @ 8:57 PM EST
    how exciting! #atchat
    In reply to @lynda_laugavitz
  • EdTechBham Feb 8 @ 8:57 PM EST
    A7 There is still too much "that is the SpEd or OT or SLP's job." Not out of malice but out of overwhelm. Need to work together! #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:57 PM EST
    What does "mid-tech" mean to you? Curious. #ATchat
    In reply to @alysstets, @mmatp
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:58 PM EST
    8:00 ET #ATchat
    In reply to @FionaBushnellAT, @GarrityS20
  • lynda_laugavitz Feb 8 @ 8:58 PM EST
    @KarenJan #atchat Thanks for your expert moderation. I'm always amazed at how slowly I process info shared here. It's a happening place!
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Thank you for the great conversation tonight. For those of us in the Northeast, enjoy the snow day tomorrow! #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 8 @ 8:59 PM EST
    The storify will be out later - it's so great to review it later. #ATchat
    In reply to @lynda_laugavitz
  • lrdichiara Feb 8 @ 8:59 PM EST
    @MaegeK Essential! Trust is lost and openmindedness will be gone if this occurs. Great point! #ATchat
    In reply to @MaegeK
    • MaegeK Feb 8 @ 8:52 PM EST
      A7 we need to make sure that we debunk myths with respect. Nothing worse then embarrassing a team member. #ATchat
  • VickiBostonSLP Feb 8 @ 8:59 PM EST
    For those wanting more #AugComm chat, don't forget @PrAACticalAAC is hosting #USSAAChat tomorrow at 7ET on building AAC culture. #ATchat
    In reply to @PrAACticalAAC