#AusVETchat Archive
An opportunity for practitioners in the vocational training sector to discuss and share ideas, tips and technologies.
Tuesday September 13, 2016
11:30 PM EDT
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So to get you started - I'm in Alice Springs, the wet desert today. I work at as a VET Developer
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Just checking out those from my desk and checking into ...hot and sunny here although rain predicted
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Question 1 coming up soon
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I also work at at as an applied researcher mostly in workforce planning and development
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You're welcome to extend your involvement and join over the next hour - talking Industry Engagement
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Also anyone from want to join? Follow Sue for questions.
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Sounds interesting. So what VET quals would relate to your role? CIV/Dip Business?
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So lots of industries to liaise with for you?
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What industry helps the , we all need them.
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Question 2 is coming up soon
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A1 Roles vary depending on how you define industry, training and the qualification (assuming enrolled students)
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OUr hashtag for the next hour is (and if you can fit it in)
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Talking in context of industry & those who deliver training collaborating so the training is what industry need
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A2 can you give an example from one industry that is active in ? Where does language differ?
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RT Do we know who in industry they talk to? And do they speak the same language? https://t.co/uKWK5r4TEf
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Working w/ Nursing, Comm Services, Conservation, Business & Beauty teams so looking forward to engaging w\ industry https://t.co/VdUGcGBvh5
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A2 Often training orgs use our industry lingo - TAS, moderation, validation etc. Means nothing to a tradesperson
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Don't feel you have to respond to every tweet in a Go with what you can cope with, and remember to include
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A2 Good communication, respect, understanding, patience, sincerity, humour
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Q2 I'd be happy to include VET and HE library educators in our planning activities / sessions on future directions
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Yes! All very important. And being wiling to meet timeframes that suit industry. Flexibility is v important.
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A2 and we don't always know the trade lingo. Need plain English on both sides.
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Do educators delivering Library relevant quals consult with you in planning training / course development?
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A3 Ideally one chosen by the industry in a rep role, also need a real passion for E&T and time to share it
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Q3 Industry representation needs to get a good cross section of key employers. Skills needed can be v different
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And Q4 is on it's way soon
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Good one! That brings us back to "Who is Industry", if "Industry" is going to choose the reps.
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Yes. We also have some consultation with national bodies. It is hard tho as skills needed moving very fast
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A good base knowledge is great but what we really need are adaptable & creative problem solvers
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True. And often training packages don't keep up as fast so RTO's hands are tied
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I'm wondering about cross-industry study? Does that help with good problem solving? Like IT + Business?
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Yes - so that needs to be built into the choice of elective units in, say CIV or Dip of Library quals.
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We're half way through and Q5 is coming up soon.
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Yes. Perhaps that is a key issue. How can we make packages more agile?
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Oh if we knew the answer to that one!
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A4Listen, join industry bodies, stay connected, be flexible, build relationships, retain personal currency
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I proposed to ALIA that perhaps one model is to have specialisations that need to be renewed periodically
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Personal currency is a hot topic at the moment - a good one for a separate maybe
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Don't forget we have prizes up for grabs so please join in the for w\ & https://t.co/N7Vjp8ME6P
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Prizes up for grabs so get tweeting for
The most consistent Twitterer
The most retweeted or liked
OLT Directors Choice
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Lets start with the simple questions first. HaHa
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We're moving on to Q6 in a minute
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Q5Creatively providing and guiding learning opportunities that meet given reqs but also new needs
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Any suggestions for encouraging Trainers / Lecturers to join industry bodies?
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What do library jobs look like in the future? What new skills needed? How do we deliver that? https://t.co/IMZfqFhasq
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We're on the homeward stretch now. Q7 coming up
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Q5 identify emerging innovative industries & engage, build relationships. Identify skill sets as a starting point?
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Q6If the passion is there they can find time Ask them how they would like to communicate maybe go digital!
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So consulting about course we may not even offer yet!
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Digital is great - for some! But others are reluctant to try it. Maybe we need to teach them how :)
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Maybe will dip in when she is out of her current meeting, to answer this one.
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HaHa Touche! Mix of gen skills (tech / problem solving) & long list of specialisations
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A7: Find out how Industry current communicates (tech or not) and dip in to that.
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One last question (and then a bonus!) Q8 in a minute
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Yes - and that means getting out there talking to them in the first place - by whatever means. Meet where they are at.
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Perhaps short JIT certifications to allow for lifelong PD. Easy access & MicroCredentials
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agree,f2f impt for relationships,find best times to meet,join/present at their meetings,build trust,offer alternatives
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Sounds like maybe a place for digital for short courses
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Thanks everyone at . Great ideas & I've learned a lot! Gtg to a meeting now. Hope to see you at other events :-)
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A8Calendar entry,blog,photos,emails,tweets,groupies, create shared digital industry repositories for staff to populate
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Thanks for joining us. Love your feedback later on the bonus Q9, and on this style of discussion
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Some great ideas there. Love the idea of a shared digital repository.
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A9 Great chat questions, thanks I think this could be monthly and used as a vehicle to engage VET across Australia.
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Q9Good stimulation just after lunch,many topics of interest, fortnightly,qs in advance,add links for learning
