#prinleaderchat Archive

The National Association of Secondary School Principals (NASSP) is starting a new #prinleaderchat every Sunday at 9:00 pm EST. We will be starting this Sunday October 2. Our schedule is listed on this google spreadsheet https://goo.gl/SI9LVo.

Sunday January 27, 2019
9:00 PM EST

  • winstonsakurai - Moderator Jan 27 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Aloha! Welcome to the #PrinLeaderChat 'Ohana! Tonight 2018 Iowa @NASSP State Principal of the Year @ryandumkrieger discusses Teacher Input and Voice. Please introduce yourselves.
  • ryandumkrieger Jan 27 @ 9:00 PM EST
    #PrinLeaderChat "Teacher Voice and Input" starts now! Take a few minutes to introduce yourself, say where you are from, and share the best advice you ever received from one of your staff members!
  • posickj Jan 27 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Jay checking in from Merton, WI. Best advice was to take my own advice- family first. #prinleaderchat
  • clegleiter Jan 27 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hello everyone - Chris MS principal from KC. Great advice I got was "not everything that counts can be counted" #prinleaderchat
  • DeniseMurai Jan 27 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Intro: Denise Murai, Parent-Community Liaison @HahaioneES in Honolulu, Hawaii. Best Advice from a Staff Member: It can take up to a few years to fully understand a school’s culture, how it works and what you can meaningfully contribute. #PrinLeaderChat
    • ryandumkrieger Jan 27 @ 9:00 PM EST
      #PrinLeaderChat "Teacher Voice and Input" starts now! Take a few minutes to introduce yourself, say where you are from, and share the best advice you ever received from one of your staff members!
  • winstonsakurai - Moderator Jan 27 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Aloha Jay! #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @posickj
  • ryandumkrieger Jan 27 @ 9:03 PM EST
    And you can count on that!!! #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @clegleiter
  • winstonsakurai - Moderator Jan 27 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Aloha Chris! #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @clegleiter
  • WASEMJEFF Jan 27 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Jeff, Bentonville, Arkansas Best Advice from Staff - More Jeans Days > Less Jeans Day. In all seriousness, put kids first and serve well! #PrinLeaderChat
  • winstonsakurai - Moderator Jan 27 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Aloha Jeff! Glad you could join #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @WASEMJEFF
  • ryandumkrieger Jan 27 @ 9:05 PM EST
    #PrinLeaderChat Q1: "Why is it important for principals and leaders to promote teacher and staff voice and input?"
  • principalhoops Jan 27 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Eric, Chanute, Kansas. Best advice from a staff member "Students First"! #prinleaderchat
  • Dale_Chu Jan 27 @ 9:05 PM EST
    HAPPENING NOW: @ryandumkrieger hosting a chat on teacher input and voice. Follow along at #PrinLeaderChat! @NASSP
  • ryandumkrieger Jan 27 @ 9:05 PM EST
    #prinleaderchat Great advice and thanks for joining in tonight!
    In reply to @principalhoops
  • clegleiter Jan 27 @ 9:06 PM EST
    A1. Best way to lead is "from the back, not the front". We must empower our staff to share best practices, lead PD and model their passion for kids. Teachers went into teaching to make a difference - lets allow them to be the difference. #prinleaderchat
  • ryandumkrieger Jan 27 @ 9:07 PM EST
    That is so right! Every teacher comes to school everyday to make a difference. Empowering helps them achieve more. #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @clegleiter
  • posickj Jan 27 @ 9:07 PM EST
    A1 Teachers and staff are often closer to the students then we are so they have a better idea of what is best for kids. Making a decision on your own as a principal is seldom a good idea. #prinleaderchat
  • WASEMJEFF Jan 27 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1: because it’s not the principal’s school, it’s everyone’s school. Also, by not seeking voice, the principal makes the assumption that he/she knows all, which we know is comical. Teachers are boots on ground and their lens must be listened to. #PrinLeaderChat
  • teachermrskhan Jan 27 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Hello, Iram here from Surrey, B.C. Canada Best advice from staff: we are okay with change, just give us a heads up and sometimes you need to take it slow. #PrinLeaderChat
  • ryandumkrieger Jan 27 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Isolation hurts everyone. Great point! #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @posickj
  • winstonsakurai - Moderator Jan 27 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1 Most of the time better ideas come from the teachers and staff than just from the admin alone.. #PrinLeaderChat
  • ryandumkrieger Jan 27 @ 9:09 PM EST
    They are the front lines. They reap the benefit (and repercussions) of every decision first. #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @WASEMJEFF
  • winstonsakurai - Moderator Jan 27 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Aloha Iram! #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @teachermrskhan
  • winstonsakurai - Moderator Jan 27 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Q1 #PrinLeaderChat
  • RichHayzler Jan 27 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1:A successful school is where everyone leads and grows together. Giving staff a voice and input into goals, professional development and instructional practices that work for their students is critical. #prinleaderchat
  • DeniseMurai Jan 27 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: Consider the depth of the shift possible when moving from supervising to connecting. The support of growing past trying to do it all by yourself & supporting other’s grow as leaders. (Paraphrasing @casas_jimmy @Jeff_Zoul #StopRightNow39) #PrinLeaderChat
  • katieatowler Jan 27 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Katie Towler high school principal from Sioux City, IA. 7th year in administration. Hi @ryandumkrieger! #PrinLeaderChat
  • principalhoops Jan 27 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: Teacher and staff voice and input are important because they allow for a "we will do this 'with' you", instead of "we will 'do' this to you" culture. #prinleaderchat
  • Dale_Chu Jan 27 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: Because it helps to fosters a healthy organizational culture. #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @ryandumkrieger
  • principalhoops Jan 27 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: Teacher and staff voice and input are important because they allow for a "we will do this 'with' you", instead of "we will do this 'to' you" culture. #prinleaderchat
  • winstonsakurai - Moderator Jan 27 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Aloha Katie! Welcome to #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @katieatowler, @ryandumkrieger
  • ryandumkrieger Jan 27 @ 9:13 PM EST
    #PrinLeaderChat Q2: “What are the most effective strategies you use to promote your staff’s voice and gather their input?”
  • teachermrskhan Jan 27 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1 so many reasons! Work smarter not harder. Better to ask for input than having to make decisions in your own #PrinLeaderChat
  • ryandumkrieger Jan 27 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Every conversation does just that! A healthy culture is very important! #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @Dale_Chu
  • posickj Jan 27 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A2 Monthly BLT meeting, weekly grade level and specials meetings, and a calendar with plenty of times to meet for individual discussions. #prinleaderchat
    • ryandumkrieger Jan 27 @ 9:13 PM EST
      #PrinLeaderChat Q2: “What are the most effective strategies you use to promote your staff’s voice and gather their input?”
  • katieatowler Jan 27 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Q2: in the past I have used 10 min weekly meetings to engage staff in conversations. One question on the agenda and an open floor for their thoughts. The key is actually hearing what is said and then acting on it. #PrinLeaderChat
  • Dale_Chu Jan 27 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A2: Listening; being present; asking lots of questions. #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @ryandumkrieger
  • RichHayzler Jan 27 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A2: Face to face conversations is most effective for me. Take time to listen. You can gather survey data all you want but meaningful conversation and follow up where teachers see their input turn into action means the most. #prinleaderchat
  • DeniseMurai Jan 27 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A2: Definitely one-on-one time using Active Listening — a challenge with the demands on a leader’s time and yet so powerful. #PrinLeaderChat
    • ryandumkrieger Jan 27 @ 9:13 PM EST
      #PrinLeaderChat Q2: “What are the most effective strategies you use to promote your staff’s voice and gather their input?”
  • clegleiter Jan 27 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A2. Best way is face to face authentic conversations (1:1). We also use anonymous google forms and use padlet, videos to reflect on instructional shifts. Key is reflection. #prinleaderchat
  • teachermrskhan Jan 27 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A2 make an effort to get out of the office and participate in informal discussions in the staff room, while on supervision, in the parking lot... #PrinLeaderChat
  • WASEMJEFF Jan 27 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A2: I’m not always the best, when it gets busy and more busy, but I believe face to face dialogue proves most effective. I believe Chris leads well here with his 1 hour rule - only 1 hour in the office each day. @clegleiter #PrinLeaderChat
  • ryandumkrieger Jan 27 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Face to Face is such a struggle. Time management makes that happen. That is tough! Meaningful opportunities for teacher input is best made in person! #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @RichHayzler
  • DeniseMurai Jan 27 @ 9:18 PM EST
    @clegleiter Love the idea of using videos to reflect on instructional shifts. Add reflection and you’re setting up a great culture for partnerships with your teachers and staff. #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @clegleiter, @clegleiter
  • principalhoops Jan 27 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2: Open door policy. If you need to discuss a situation, feel free to stop in and know that you will be heard. Being present out in the building is also a great way to gather staff input. #prinleaderchat
  • cybraryman1 Jan 27 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Please don't be like my 10 former principals. Admin. need to listen to teachers, staff & #stuvoice Our Listening page https://t.co/sg9sVfQJty Seek their input and advice. Our Feedback page https://t.co/ceQhasNULf Our Risk-Taking page https://t.co/m6kv3Hykq7 #PrinLeaderChat
  • ryandumkrieger Jan 27 @ 9:19 PM EST
    WHAT? This blows my mind! How is this possible (hint, this is foreshadowing Q3)! I would love to hear more about this! #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @WASEMJEFF, @clegleiter
  • MrAustinA2 Jan 27 @ 9:19 PM EST
    We say that relationships are the foundation of a humanized classroom + the same is true in schools . Leaders should reorient their time to prioritize relationship building with their staff. It builds trust, value + makes the hard work doable together. #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @RichHayzler
  • winstonsakurai - Moderator Jan 27 @ 9:19 PM EST
    #This #PrinLeaderChat
  • jcwastler Jan 27 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Agreed. And I need to get better at it. #prinleaderchat
    In reply to @cybraryman1
  • posickj Jan 27 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Love this rule, and try to live by it as well! #prinleaderchat
    In reply to @WASEMJEFF, @clegleiter
  • DeniseMurai Jan 27 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2(b): Thank you @cybraryman1 for sharing a great resource for listening! #PrinLeaderChat
  • ryandumkrieger Jan 27 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Love the resources! #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @cybraryman1
  • ryandumkrieger Jan 27 @ 9:21 PM EST
    #PrinLeaderChat Q3: “How do you organize your schedule/calendar to increase visibility to promote real time voice/input?”
  • posickj Jan 27 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Listening is my #oneword19 so I can use these resources. Thanks, Jerry! #prinleaderchat
    In reply to @cybraryman1
  • VeliaViola1 Jan 27 @ 9:22 PM EST
    #PrinLeaderChat Hi there, just joining in.
  • winstonsakurai - Moderator Jan 27 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Aloha Viela! #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @VeliaViola1
  • clegleiter Jan 27 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2 These are notes of “thanks or encouragement” I try to write to staff throughout the year. Face to face is not always possible- so next best is handwritten note . #prinleaderchat
  • ryandumkrieger Jan 27 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Thanks for swinging through! Just posted Q3. #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @VeliaViola1
  • Dale_Chu Jan 27 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A3: When I was a principal, I made it a point to be out and about before and after school as well as during meals and passing times. #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @ryandumkrieger
  • katieatowler Jan 27 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A3: I like to block my time. I start my morning in my office and then am out for an hour when kids start to arrive. Back in for an hour, and then out again. You get the idea. It doesn’t always work. Honestly a daily struggle! #PrinLeaderChat
  • MrAustinA2 Jan 27 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Evaluations should be the only time that staff members see their administrators, so time needs to be made to check in + have non-evaluative conversations. This is the hard work, but it's where trust is built: on the ground, door-to-door, teacher-by-teacher. #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @teachermrskhan
  • posickj Jan 27 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A3 My calendar is posted on my office door for all to see (students, staff, families). If there is an open spot, anyone can sign up and take it. If the spot isn't taken then I'm out and about in the school. #prinleaderchat
  • DeniseMurai Jan 27 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A3: Our amazing leader, @PrincipalGoo walks our campus multiple times per day engaging w/ students, parents, teachers & staff. He has #NoOffice (really, it’s now a conference rm). #PrinLeaderChat
  • ryandumkrieger Jan 27 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Great idea. I was just looking at postcards for staff today (we do it for kids). Our district leaders also do handwritten notes and we notice them! #sccsd #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @clegleiter
  • clegleiter Jan 27 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A3. I try to limit myself in office to 1 hour so that I can be at carline, in classrooms, at b-ball games and at lunch. I say “lead with my feet, not from my seat.” #prinleaderchat
  • VeliaViola1 Jan 27 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Hello! #PrinLeaderChat
  • MrAustinA2 Jan 27 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Evaluations shouldn't be the only time that staff members see their administrators, so time needs to be made to check in + have non-evaluative conversations. This is the hard work, but it's where trust is built: on the ground, door-to-door, teacher-by-teacher. #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @ryandumkrieger, @RichHayzler
  • principalhoops Jan 27 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A3: The three administrators in my building schedule times to be out in classrooms each week. We also share our calendars with the staff, so they know where they can find us if needed. This also allows them to schedule a meeting with us if needed. #prinleaderchat
  • VeliaViola1 Jan 27 @ 9:25 PM EST
    #PrinLeaderChat excellent statement.
    • clegleiter Jan 27 @ 9:24 PM EST
      A3. I try to limit myself in office to 1 hour so that I can be at carline, in classrooms, at b-ball games and at lunch. I say “lead with my feet, not from my seat.” #prinleaderchat
  • teachermrskhan Jan 27 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A3 if I’m not in a meeting or dealing with an issue, I make an effort to get out in the morning, at recess, lunch and after school. #PrinLeaderChat
  • DeniseMurai Jan 27 @ 9:26 PM EST
    @clegleiter @ryandumkrieger Have also seen admins leave Post-It notes of “thanks or encouragement” on a teacher’s desk after a walkthrough or classroom visit. Powerful stuff! #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @clegleiter, @clegleiter, @ryandumkrieger
  • dela808 Jan 27 @ 9:26 PM EST
    #PrinLeaderChat- Teachers are the direct link to learners—look at Hattie’s hotties: Teacher- Student relationships, Teacher Clarity and to Teacher collective efficacy. A teacher’s belief in a student is tantamount to success as is our belief in and support of teachers. @HIDOE808
  • RichHayzler Jan 27 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A3: I do a 20 minute walk around every morning. I pop in classrooms with my AP, talk with teachers, visit PLCs. Sets the tone for the day. Repeat throughout the day. Visit teachers on their duty periods and send staff "anchors of appreciation" for taking risks! #prinleaderchat
  • katieatowler Jan 27 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3: one thing I’ve tried to do this year is move my laptop and “work” out to the common space. Kids and teachers see me and I’m more approachable than when behind a door. When it’s quiet I can still get “work” done. Win win? #prinleaderchat
  • teachermrskhan Jan 27 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Yes! Being transparent with where you are is important. #prinleaderchat
    In reply to @posickj
  • VeliaViola1 Jan 27 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3 Schefule time yo be in classrooms. Be visible in the hallways. Ensure that students know your their to hear their voice. #PrinLeaderChat
    • Dale_Chu Jan 27 @ 9:23 PM EST
      A3: When I was a principal, I made it a point to be out and about before and after school as well as during meals and passing times. #PrinLeaderChat
      In reply to @ryandumkrieger
  • RichHayzler Jan 27 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Totally agree. I'm in classrooms all the time and then follow up with conversation and positive notes. Build trust, be empathetic and be supportive.#prinleaderchat
    In reply to @MrAustinA2, @ryandumkrieger
  • ryandumkrieger Jan 27 @ 9:28 PM EST
    #PrinLeaderChat We are wrapping up in one minute. Take a moment and share how you are going to seek the input of others this week.
  • Dale_Chu Jan 27 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Great strategy, Katie. #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @katieatowler
  • winstonsakurai - Moderator Jan 27 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Mahalo for joining #PrinLeaderChat! Special thanks to @ryandumkrieger. Be sure to follow your fellow chat participants and grow your #PLN. Enjoy #SuperBowl Sunday next week.
  • VeliaViola1 Jan 27 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A3 Schedule time to be in classrooms. Be visible in the hallways. Ensure that students know you are present to hear their voice. #PrinLeaderChat
    • ryandumkrieger Jan 27 @ 9:13 PM EST
      #PrinLeaderChat Q2: “What are the most effective strategies you use to promote your staff’s voice and gather their input?”
  • MrAustinA2 Jan 27 @ 9:29 PM EST
    I think taking an asset-based approach to evaluation can work better than a deficit-oriented model. This allows staff to feel valued for their contributions + makes growth-oriented feedback still feel like a win because there's a supported improvement opportunity. #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @DeniseMurai, @clegleiter, @ryandumkrieger
  • clegleiter Jan 27 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Great chat everyone- love starting my week with this inspiration #prinleaderchat
  • ryandumkrieger Jan 27 @ 9:30 PM EST
    #PrinLeaderChat Thanks for joining in tonight! Let's leave it with a quote from the Dalai Lama: "When you talk, you are only repeating what you already know. But if you listen, you may learn something new." Have a great week, learn something new, and be a model for others!
  • DeniseMurai Jan 27 @ 9:30 PM EST
    @dela808 Welcome Jamie to the best 30 min Leadership PD available! #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @dela808, @HIDOE808, @dela808
  • principalhoops Jan 27 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Thanks for a great chat tonight! #prinleaderchat
  • katieatowler Jan 27 @ 9:32 PM EST
    #PrinLeaderChat I’m going to PLC with my colleagues from other buildings. We meet weekly at Starbucks to avoid disruption. We try to make it a priority. We can all tell when we’ve missed a few weeks.
    • ryandumkrieger Jan 27 @ 9:28 PM EST
      #PrinLeaderChat We are wrapping up in one minute. Take a moment and share how you are going to seek the input of others this week.
  • dwaxman41 Jan 27 @ 9:33 PM EST
    I try my best to be out welcoming my SS and T’s every morning, in hallways during passing times, cafeteria during lunches-interacting w/ students. Checking in and having conversations, asking SS and T’s how their day is/weekend was—adds to positive school culture. #prinleaderchat
  • MrAustinA2 Jan 27 @ 9:33 PM EST
    It's a mindset: we believe that all of our students can + want to learn + I believe that teachers want to grow + learn. If they don't want to grow, we might need to look inward at ourselves + our systems + ask why not. #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @RichHayzler, @ryandumkrieger
  • teachermrskhan Jan 27 @ 9:34 PM EST
    It’s the BEST part of the job! #prinleaderchat
    In reply to @dwaxman41
  • dela808 Jan 27 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A3: A Principal’s office is where the learning is. Be visible, engaged and engaging in all aspects. Model courage, gratitude, forgiveness, compassion-in-action provide opportunities for everyone to attain moral purpose-risk hugging parents & keiki @ScarlettMLewis #PrinLeaderChat
  • teachermrskhan Jan 27 @ 9:39 PM EST
    Thanks for the chat everyone! #PrinLeaderChat
    In reply to @ryandumkrieger
  • winstonsakurai - Moderator Jan 27 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Appreciate your help. Was a great #PrinLeaderChat 🤙🏼
    In reply to @ryandumkrieger