#6thchat Archive
#6thchat is used to chat, collaborate, and grow with other sixth grade educators from around the globe. Each session we discuss a topic voted on by #6thchat participants. It's a great way to help grow your PLN and share ideas with others.
Tuesday February 21, 2017
9:00 PM EST
mrskochheiser
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Feb 21 @ 9:00 PM EST
Welcome to
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! Please share your name, where you teach and what subjects! :)
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Feb 21 @ 9:00 PM EST
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Feb 21 @ 9:00 PM EST
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Mr_Bussiere
Feb 21 @ 9:00 PM EST
Student vs. Staff bball๐ game tonight was a blast @ ECS! Tons of fun, laughs, & smiles! Such a great community event!
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mrskochheiser
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Feb 21 @ 9:01 PM EST
Greetings! I'm Kristin from Lansing, MI and teach ELA and SS! I will also moderate tonight's chat!
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SamReisman93
Feb 21 @ 9:01 PM EST
Hello
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, it's been a while for me since I was out last time and missed it. I'm Sam from Waukegan, IL and teach 6th ELA
mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:02 PM EST
We will use a Q1/A1, Q2/A2 format. New Qs are tweeted out every 6 mins! Feel free to ask related questions & respond to ea other!
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:02 PM EST
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MrSchuReads
Feb 21 @ 9:00 PM EST
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HowardKiyuna
Feb 21 @ 9:03 PM EST
Howard. Full I nclusion 5th& 6th math & science at in Palo Alto, CA.
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:03 PM EST
Good evening Howard! Glad to see you tonight!
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In reply to @HowardKiyuna
thedevineone
Feb 21 @ 9:03 PM EST
Hello
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Bryan from Ohio checking in for a bit. I teach ela.
mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:04 PM EST
Don't forget to follow one another! :) Grow your PLN
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TrishKing6
Feb 21 @ 9:04 PM EST
Hi, Trish in TN, 6th grade Global Cultures in Chattanooga, TN. Newcomer to
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pjcerullo
Feb 21 @ 9:04 PM EST
Hello
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Phil, 5th grade from NJ Checking in. I teach all subjects!
Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:04 PM EST
Leigh Anne ELA teacher from IN
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bakerbg
Feb 21 @ 9:04 PM EST
On the edge of my seat for
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and This Is Us. I am Brett from Pennsylvania!
mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:04 PM EST
Greetings Bryan! Great to see you!
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In reply to @thedevineone
mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:05 PM EST
First question coming up in one minute!
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:05 PM EST
Hi Trish! Great to see you tonight!
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In reply to @TrishKing6
PrincipalSmart
Feb 21 @ 9:05 PM EST
Good evening everyone! Michelle, principal and grade 6 ELA teacher from Saskatchewan, Canada.
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:05 PM EST
Hi Phil! It's been a few weeks! Great to see you and hope you are feeling better!
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:06 PM EST
Q1 is on the slide!! :)
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:06 PM EST
Hi Leigh Ann! Wonderful to have you on board tonight!
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:07 PM EST
Great multitasking!
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:07 PM EST
A1) This is an area where I need to improve. Tried a few systems but find sticky notes in notebook work. Hope you have other ideas
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SamReisman93
Feb 21 @ 9:07 PM EST
A1: I keep track digitally. I have a Google Sheet that I update anytime I need to make a note with date, period, and short summary
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PrincipalSmart
Feb 21 @ 9:07 PM EST
A1 This seems like a struggle for all teachers to find exactly what works the best for many different situations.
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pjcerullo
Feb 21 @ 9:07 PM EST
A1: This is a weakness of mine. I tend to use A LOT of post-it notes and index cards that accumulate exponentially.
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:08 PM EST
Do you have an ipad then? Are you able to be pretty mobile or do you use your phone. I would like to get here.
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In reply to @SamReisman93
Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1 I pretty much stink at this. Looking for some good suggestions that I can take and tweak for me.
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TrishKing6
Feb 21 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1. I keep a Google Doc going all the time to use for comment notes. In a rush, or away from my devices I use sticky notes.
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thedevineone
Feb 21 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1 I'm digital. I use google sheet that has standards listed and a conference section.
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:08 PM EST
So often I wonder why I haven't gotten this "down" yet. I agree with you.
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In reply to @PrincipalSmart
Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:09 PM EST
Is that is more like conferring notes or notes in general?
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In reply to @SamReisman93
mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:09 PM EST
I feel like I have a notebook and notes of good intentions.
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In reply to @pjcerullo
PrincipalSmart
Feb 21 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1 I use mostly paper but would like to come up with a good digital system.
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PrincipalSmart
Feb 21 @ 9:10 PM EST
That sounds great.
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In reply to @thedevineone
pjcerullo
Feb 21 @ 9:10 PM EST
Good intentions is an appropriate word for me too.
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In reply to @mrskochheiser
mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:10 PM EST
Glad to see that I am in the same boat as many of my friends here on
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. It's tough! So many Ss, so many notes
SamReisman93
Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
It's a mix, anytime I need to talk to a student or call home it goes in for example. It doubles as a log of parent contact
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In reply to @Teachr4
hoffmanteambret
Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1 Paper with ratings of 1-4 (SBG) for obs. processes. Also lots of 1:1 conf w/notes.
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
Those of you that are digital on Q1, do you use Ipad or your phone or both?
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Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1 How many students does everyone age? I have 100+. Hard to find the time to do it "right"
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:12 PM EST
Question 2 is on the slide!
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thedevineone
Feb 21 @ 9:12 PM EST
I use laptop.
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In reply to @mrskochheiser
Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:12 PM EST
That's supposed to be "have" not age.
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Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1 How many students does everyone age? I have 100+. Hard to find the time to do it "right"
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TeacherRunner42
Feb 21 @ 9:12 PM EST
a1: clip board w/ student names and a little + / check / - system
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hoffmanteambret
Feb 21 @ 9:12 PM EST
Only have 50 with a few for MTSS that rotate.
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TrishKing6
Feb 21 @ 9:12 PM EST
I have 90 students, I don't get notes on all of them everyday-- just not possible. I use my phone & laptop for digital records.
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:13 PM EST
A2) Look for "what's there" before "what's missing"; start w/Ss strengths & add on 1 goal for improvement
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TeacherRunner42
Feb 21 @ 9:13 PM EST
a1: I'd argue you don't need notes on every student every day, but you must get some data on each student each week.
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SamReisman93
Feb 21 @ 9:13 PM EST
I have about 70
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In reply to @Teachr4
mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:13 PM EST
So true, many configurations for 6th grade
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. I have 54 students.
Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1 How many students does everyone age? I have 100+. Hard to find the time to do it "right"
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thedevineone
Feb 21 @ 9:13 PM EST
A2 Keep it simple and concrete. Don't overwhelm them with too much at one time. Don't forget to give them a positive as well.
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PrincipalSmart
Feb 21 @ 9:13 PM EST
A2 Students need to know where they are heading to & why. Feedback needs to be given on the journey, rather than after they arrive.
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hoffmanteambret
Feb 21 @ 9:14 PM EST
Agreed!! Just need a system to track data.
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TeacherRunner42
Feb 21 @ 9:13 PM EST
a1: I'd argue you don't need notes on every student every day, but you must get some data on each student each week.
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TeacherRunner42
Feb 21 @ 9:14 PM EST
I'm old fashioned - student roster, grid, + / chk / -
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In reply to @hoffmanteambret
SamReisman93
Feb 21 @ 9:14 PM EST
A2: Make sure it is specific and immediate
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PrincipalSmart
Feb 21 @ 9:15 PM EST
Everyone will laugh at me, I have 22 if you only consider my grade 6's.
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AssignmentHelpN
Feb 21 @ 9:15 PM EST
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:15 PM EST
Old school. Like that too.
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PS Good to see you here!
In reply to @TeacherRunner42
TrishKing6
Feb 21 @ 9:15 PM EST
A2. Timely, personal & specific. Recognize strengths, improvements, & effort. Identify areas for growth & strategies
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Rachael_SMUMN
Feb 21 @ 9:15 PM EST
Got distracted with something, just joining from MN!
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TeacherRunner42
Feb 21 @ 9:16 PM EST
a2: specific, immediate, and short & to the point
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HowardKiyuna
Feb 21 @ 9:16 PM EST
A1: not a strength of mine but so useful when I do. I actually see more.
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hoffmanteambret
Feb 21 @ 9:16 PM EST
Not laughing, jealous
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In reply to @PrincipalSmart, @Teachr4
mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:16 PM EST
Well said
@PrincipalSmart
.
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In reply to @PrincipalSmart
PrincipalSmart
Feb 21 @ 9:13 PM EST
A2 Students need to know where they are heading to & why. Feedback needs to be given on the journey, rather than after they arrive.
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:17 PM EST
I need to move to Canada. :)
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In reply to @PrincipalSmart, @Teachr4
Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:17 PM EST
.
@ruth_ayres
has a new miniCourse on conferring you might want to check out. Great ideas
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https://t.co/ia0G1eNCYv
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:18 PM EST
Question 3 is on the slide!
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Rachael_SMUMN
Feb 21 @ 9:18 PM EST
I have 36 total 6th graders split in two groups so 18 at a time ;) yay small schools!
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In reply to @PrincipalSmart, @Teachr4
HowardKiyuna
Feb 21 @ 9:18 PM EST
A1: clipboard and blank sheets of paper. Too piece stays blank. Chaotic time stamped stream of consciousness
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Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:18 PM EST
I wouldn't know what to do!
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Rachael_SMUMN
Feb 21 @ 9:18 PM EST
I have 36 total 6th graders split in two groups so 18 at a time ;) yay small schools!
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In reply to @PrincipalSmart, @Teachr4
mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:18 PM EST
Welcome! Jump in! Lots of great ideas tonight!
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In reply to @Rachael_SMUMN
PrincipalSmart
Feb 21 @ 9:18 PM EST
In our school we only have one class of each grade for the most part. Nice size!
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In reply to @mrskochheiser, @Teachr4
mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:19 PM EST
A3) This is another area for me to improve upon; important to cycle back & see that Ss working w/ & trying new skills/strats
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HowardKiyuna
Feb 21 @ 9:19 PM EST
A3: someone mentioned timeliness. Hopefully I'm still on the topic and it's relevant.
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thedevineone
Feb 21 @ 9:19 PM EST
A3 They usually don't receive grade until after feedback given. Grade is based on whether they make changes based on feedback.
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TrishKing6
Feb 21 @ 9:19 PM EST
A3. That's tough for 6s at the beginning of the year. It takes time & trust for them to be open to feedback & using it.
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hoffmanteambret
Feb 21 @ 9:19 PM EST
A3 Most of my direct feedback is in math, I can see thier reactions in the work. Don't envy write T's!
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Rachael_SMUMN
Feb 21 @ 9:20 PM EST
this seems to be the way that works best for me too, but then enter into a google sheet with their names to track
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In reply to @HowardKiyuna
massignmenthelp
Feb 21 @ 9:20 PM EST
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PrincipalSmart
Feb 21 @ 9:20 PM EST
A3 Another thing I am also trying to improve on is conferencing with students more. Time...
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SamReisman93
Feb 21 @ 9:20 PM EST
A3: This is something I need help w/, I often feel my Ss don't really listen to feedback for the most part
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staceyreeder
Feb 21 @ 9:20 PM EST
A3: Ss log feedback, their reflection about it, & and action plan into a personal spreadsheet to use as reference on future work.
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Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:20 PM EST
Is this with all things? or just a particular area such as writing?
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. I like the idea at attaching grades to changes.
thedevineone
Feb 21 @ 9:19 PM EST
A3 They usually don't receive grade until after feedback given. Grade is based on whether they make changes based on feedback.
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missfgrade6
Feb 21 @ 9:20 PM EST
A3: I try to use my study hall period to conference with students.
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HowardKiyuna
Feb 21 @ 9:21 PM EST
I have 13 Ss in each class (and an assistant). Two grades alternating days.
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TrishKing6
Feb 21 @ 9:21 PM EST
Me too. I've tried to build in more opps for them to reflect on their work & self evaluate w/me. Mixed results.
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In reply to @SamReisman93
Rachael_SMUMN
Feb 21 @ 9:21 PM EST
that's what I love about teaching math, you can see changes quickly!
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In reply to @hoffmanteambret
Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:21 PM EST
A3 I like giving feedback in google docs - real time changes!
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rolandteach
Feb 21 @ 9:21 PM EST
I'm a bit late:/ Monica from Kansas.
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PrincipalSmart
Feb 21 @ 9:22 PM EST
I agree Sam! I have not figured out how to make it matter for some. How do we get more buy-in?
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pjcerullo
Feb 21 @ 9:22 PM EST
A3: I try to have Ss respond to feedback in writing and if they agree or disagree, and what they can do to move forward.
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TeacherRunner42
Feb 21 @ 9:22 PM EST
I also love the fact you can show students their previous and current versions, show them the progress they made...
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:22 PM EST
That's my area. Hard to see and guide so many ELA strands in reading and writing...not as black and white.
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In reply to @hoffmanteambret
thedevineone
Feb 21 @ 9:22 PM EST
Mostly writing but been trying to do this more in reading this year as well. Going to more standard based grading in rdg.
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Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:22 PM EST
A3 We do a lot of peer review with writing. Sometimes T feedback isn't what is wanted or needed at the time.
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SamReisman93
Feb 21 @ 9:23 PM EST
I conferenced w/ Ss on writing and some didn't change and some waited to meet to even start
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In reply to @TrishKing6
mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:23 PM EST
Nice! I need to move to having Ss work harder than me at tracking their goals/feedback/progress.
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In reply to @staceyreeder
thedevineone
Feb 21 @ 9:24 PM EST
Teaching kids to peer review effectively has been a difficulty of mine. Love this idea though. Any ideas appreciated.
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:24 PM EST
Question 4 is on the slide!
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SamReisman93
Feb 21 @ 9:24 PM EST
Not sure, but when we figure it out we can write the book on it and just go around presenting on it
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In reply to @PrincipalSmart
hoffmanteambret
Feb 21 @ 9:24 PM EST
My math blocks are 90 min with 25 per block. LOVE this format. Gets me to all of S's twice a week.
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:24 PM EST
Monica! Great to see you back at
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! Join in at any point or question!
In reply to @rolandteach
mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:25 PM EST
A4) Plan ahead; decide which assignments/practice work will rc'v feedback; or focus on specific Ss ea. day. Interested in ideas
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TrishKing6
Feb 21 @ 9:25 PM EST
For me too. Pushing them to go beyond writing "Good Job!" and a smiley face has been a challenge.
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PrincipalSmart
Feb 21 @ 9:25 PM EST
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SamReisman93
Feb 21 @ 9:25 PM EST
I need to also do this, was working on Danielson and this is the diff between 3 and 4 in lots of spots
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Rachael_SMUMN
Feb 21 @ 9:25 PM EST
I usually won't let Ss conference until they show me what work they've done first
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PrincipalSmart
Feb 21 @ 9:26 PM EST
Sounds good!
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Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:26 PM EST
Best advice is to review for one certain thing at a time like transitions or introductions etc.Looking at the whole is ineffective.
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thedevineone
Feb 21 @ 9:24 PM EST
Teaching kids to peer review effectively has been a difficulty of mine. Love this idea though. Any ideas appreciated.
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hoffmanteambret
Feb 21 @ 9:26 PM EST
A3 You do have to be purposeful and direct with needs. Otherwise, takes more time than rewards.
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missfgrade6
Feb 21 @ 9:27 PM EST
In science, I try to plan ahead effectively and allow Ss to reflective write at end of topic. Give themselves feedback too
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SamReisman93
Feb 21 @ 9:27 PM EST
A4: Limit the amount of assignments you are giving so that you can focus in on the ones you are doing for good feedback
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:27 PM EST
That made me laugh out loud!
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In reply to @SamReisman93, @PrincipalSmart
TrishKing6
Feb 21 @ 9:27 PM EST
A4. I haven't figured this out. Would love to hear others' strategies!
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PrincipalSmart
Feb 21 @ 9:28 PM EST
A4 Some students need more support than others. All students do not need the same amount of your time.
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staceyreeder
Feb 21 @ 9:28 PM EST
A4: Feedback through conferring still gets me a lot of bang for my buck! Also want to try Kaizena where I can speak feedback.
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SamReisman93
Feb 21 @ 9:28 PM EST
I should have done that, but some truly needed the extra help, but didn't want to ask
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pjcerullo
Feb 21 @ 9:28 PM EST
A4: What is time? Can we get more of it?
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Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:28 PM EST
Accept the fact that they should be writing 4 times as much as we can grade! Advice by
@KellyGToGo
I try to take it!
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RunnerGirl13_1
Feb 21 @ 9:28 PM EST
Good evening,
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. Marilyn, from southern California.
staceyreeder
Feb 21 @ 9:29 PM EST
A4: Saw a great idea last week = writing class a letter of feedback for big things all seem to need. Only need to say it once!
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SamReisman93
Feb 21 @ 9:29 PM EST
Exactly. Can't forget that Ss have more than just our class so it will make them happy too to have less assignments
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In reply to @missfgrade6
Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:29 PM EST
Mine just want to know "why" they missed points. Not quality feedback.
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SamReisman93
Feb 21 @ 9:20 PM EST
A3: This is something I need help w/, I often feel my Ss don't really listen to feedback for the most part
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:30 PM EST
Question 5 is on the slide!
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SamReisman93
Feb 21 @ 9:30 PM EST
I could agree with this I've noticed my girls are more willing to try some of these steps than the boys
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In reply to @TrishKing6, @mrskochheiser
missfgrade6
Feb 21 @ 9:30 PM EST
I teach block schedules so often times they can finish a lab or assignment in class
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In reply to @SamReisman93
rolandteach
Feb 21 @ 9:30 PM EST
A4: I use
@Seesaw
Ss provide feedback to each other. I provide feedback too. Have to provide time for Ss to read and reflect.
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In reply to @Seesaw
mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:30 PM EST
I find the power of one is best with feedback and focus, too.
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In reply to @Teachr4
RunnerGirl13_1
Feb 21 @ 9:30 PM EST
A4) I "try" to give feedback in the comments section of Google tools. Focus on 1 concept at a time: thesis statement, or evidence.
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Renard_Teach
Feb 21 @ 9:30 PM EST
A4 I recently struggled with feedback during a word problem unit. Leaned a lot on peer feedback.
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:31 PM EST
A5) Ss need to spend time looking at assignment rubric/expectations and then sharing how they think they did; highlight evidence
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thedevineone
Feb 21 @ 9:31 PM EST
A5 Self-evaluation is important and I count it toward their grade as long as they have evidence to support.
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Rachael_SMUMN
Feb 21 @ 9:31 PM EST
there's always those Ss! I make an exception for them or require a conference if i see them struggling/just sitting
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In reply to @SamReisman93
Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:31 PM EST
I hated correction worksheets where S had to find ALL of the mistakes. Overload!
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:30 PM EST
I find the power of one is best with feedback and focus, too.
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In reply to @Teachr4
rolandteach
Feb 21 @ 9:31 PM EST
A5:
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rolandteach
Feb 21 @ 9:30 PM EST
A4: I use
@Seesaw
Ss provide feedback to each other. I provide feedback too. Have to provide time for Ss to read and reflect.
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In reply to @Seesaw
SamReisman93
Feb 21 @ 9:31 PM EST
A5: Ask them "why" questions, get them to contribute to the discussion
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:31 PM EST
This
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Quality not quantity.
SamReisman93
Feb 21 @ 9:27 PM EST
A4: Limit the amount of assignments you are giving so that you can focus in on the ones you are doing for good feedback
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missfgrade6
Feb 21 @ 9:32 PM EST
A5: this sounds like a great place to incorporate tech! I have a colleague who uses canvas for this!
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Renard_Teach
Feb 21 @ 9:33 PM EST
A5 I thinking it is about group think in math. Model, group, individual to group, then individual. Feedback comes in sharing.
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:34 PM EST
You can also do this with
@vocaroo
and Doctopus/Goobric have voice recording options.
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In reply to @staceyreeder, @vocaroo
Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:34 PM EST
I think we shld limit the # of assignments we give feedback on, but not the total # of assignments. My Ss do not do enough writing.
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:31 PM EST
This
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Quality not quantity.
SamReisman93
Feb 21 @ 9:27 PM EST
A4: Limit the amount of assignments you are giving so that you can focus in on the ones you are doing for good feedback
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SamReisman93
Feb 21 @ 9:34 PM EST
, I was requiring a conference for everyone so they were just waiting until they came up to say they had a ?
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TrishKing6
Feb 21 @ 9:34 PM EST
A5. Self-eval 1st w/rubric before I assess. (conversation if needed) Reflect mid-process, & at the end, predict grades, explain why
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missfgrade6
Feb 21 @ 9:35 PM EST
I frequently use reflections for this purpose
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In reply to @thedevineone
mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:36 PM EST
Question 6 is on the slide!
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RunnerGirl13_1
Feb 21 @ 9:36 PM EST
A5) I've been having Ss peer review in Google docs/hyperdocs. One comment and one question to ponder.
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staceyreeder
Feb 21 @ 9:36 PM EST
@mrskochheiser
, what have you had the most success trying? Think voice recording will help manage grading for my 75 kiddos!
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:34 PM EST
You can also do this with
@vocaroo
and Doctopus/Goobric have voice recording options.
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In reply to @staceyreeder, @vocaroo
mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:37 PM EST
A6) I think so. If there are too many suggestions, or too frequent, Ss do not know how to absorb or focus on how to improve
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Renard_Teach
Feb 21 @ 9:37 PM EST
Taking a benchmark assessment tomorrow, this just gave me a good idea. Man, chats are great.
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staceyreeder
Feb 21 @ 9:37 PM EST
A6: Yes! Sometimes reading & writing should just be for pure joy! Otherwise some kids never feel successful!
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hoffmanteambret
Feb 21 @ 9:37 PM EST
YES! We can't micromanage the process, stymies creativity and build to independence. WAY imp things at this age!
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SamReisman93
Feb 21 @ 9:37 PM EST
A6: Yes. You can't give feedback on every single word/line a student puts down or they will not look at any of it
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missfgrade6
Feb 21 @ 9:37 PM EST
A6: focus on quality feedback not quantity
#iknowisaidthatoncealready
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thedevineone
Feb 21 @ 9:37 PM EST
A6 Yes I think it can lose it's effectiveness if you overwhelm them.
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PrincipalSmart
Feb 21 @ 9:38 PM EST
A6 I never feel like I give enough feedback, but students need time to reflect and act on feedback. Too much can overwhelm.
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Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:38 PM EST
.
@ruth_ayres
also has an online workshop on managing writing assessments. 1st step do a gut check!
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https://t.co/g8QNioP57L
staceyreeder
Feb 21 @ 9:36 PM EST
@mrskochheiser
, what have you had the most success trying? Think voice recording will help manage grading for my 75 kiddos!
#6thchat
mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:34 PM EST
You can also do this with
@vocaroo
and Doctopus/Goobric have voice recording options.
#6thchat
In reply to @staceyreeder, @vocaroo
KaizenaHQ
Feb 21 @ 9:38 PM EST
Would love for you to try us out! Let me know if have any Qs for getting started
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In reply to @staceyreeder
TrishKing6
Feb 21 @ 9:38 PM EST
A6. Yes, esp. with struggling Ss. I try to focus on something specific so they can have a win then add more when they're ready
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Renard_Teach
Feb 21 @ 9:39 PM EST
A6 Too much feedback can lead to over reliance on validation of the teacher. Hard to undo once done.
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missfgrade6
Feb 21 @ 9:39 PM EST
often times they get feedback from all their teachers and adjusting to middle school is tough!
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TeacherRunner42
Feb 21 @ 9:39 PM EST
a6: yes - if feedback is not working on one target skill - can't fix everything at once
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Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:39 PM EST
I have a colleague that uses
@Kaizena
@yepitslancaster
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In reply to @Kaizena, @yepitslancaster
staceyreeder
Feb 21 @ 9:28 PM EST
A4: Feedback through conferring still gets me a lot of bang for my buck! Also want to try Kaizena where I can speak feedback.
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:41 PM EST
Eww...me too!
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hoffmanteambret
Feb 21 @ 9:41 PM EST
Most important lesson about feedback is that it's gotta be differentiated and leveled. S goals not all the same, vary per S need.
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staceyreeder
Feb 21 @ 9:41 PM EST
@Teachr4
, I watched
@ruth_ayres
video about "gut checks." Such a great idea!
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In reply to @Teachr4, @ruth_ayres
Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:38 PM EST
.
@ruth_ayres
also has an online workshop on managing writing assessments. 1st step do a gut check!
#6thchat
https://t.co/g8QNioP57L
staceyreeder
Feb 21 @ 9:36 PM EST
@mrskochheiser
, what have you had the most success trying? Think voice recording will help manage grading for my 75 kiddos!
#6thchat
mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:34 PM EST
You can also do this with
@vocaroo
and Doctopus/Goobric have voice recording options.
#6thchat
In reply to @staceyreeder, @vocaroo
mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:42 PM EST
Question 7 is on the slide!
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missfgrade6
Feb 21 @ 9:42 PM EST
curious what is this?
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In reply to @KaizenaHQ, @staceyreeder
Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:42 PM EST
I just love
@ruth_ayres
! She is just as wonderful in person as she is on her videos and in her words!
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In reply to @staceyreeder, @ruth_ayres
HowardKiyuna
Feb 21 @ 9:42 PM EST
A6: When the feedbackerer wants what they want more than wanting the doer to achieve their goal = too much. ๐
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:43 PM EST
A7) Focus on 1. One specific, goal oriented statement. Sometimes I am overwhelmed by all Ss need to learn, & refocus on ONE thing
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SamReisman93
Feb 21 @ 9:43 PM EST
A7: Give specific feedback on what the S does well and how they can make it better with specific steps to improve
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staceyreeder
Feb 21 @ 9:44 PM EST
I love getting her pearls of wisdom in my email inbox! Always a great golden nugget in there!
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Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:42 PM EST
I just love
@ruth_ayres
! She is just as wonderful in person as she is on her videos and in her words!
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In reply to @staceyreeder, @ruth_ayres
HowardKiyuna
Feb 21 @ 9:44 PM EST
I'm fading
#6thchat
. Losing focus. Need feedback.
TrishKing6
Feb 21 @ 9:44 PM EST
A7. Without taking hours & hours? Hmmm. I do that really well w/my 12 advisees, haven't figured it out for the 90, w/out the hours
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PrincipalSmart
Feb 21 @ 9:44 PM EST
A6 Focusing on specific skills one or a few at a time allows for specific feedback and easier to see improvement.
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Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:44 PM EST
I think sometimes we are so worried abt "teaching all the standards" that we lose our way by NOT focusing on 1 thing. worth time.
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:43 PM EST
A7) Focus on 1. One specific, goal oriented statement. Sometimes I am overwhelmed by all Ss need to learn, & refocus on ONE thing
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RunnerGirl13_1
Feb 21 @ 9:45 PM EST
A7) Did a webinar w/
@alicekeeler
. Recommends 1 comment/2 questions. Working really well. Ss write me back thanking for the advice.
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In reply to @alicekeeler
mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:45 PM EST
Don't you find this often already true by 6th grade or upper grades? I find I have to work hard to "undo"
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PrincipalSmart
Feb 21 @ 9:45 PM EST
Look after yourself and go to bed! Ha, ha
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In reply to @HowardKiyuna
mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:46 PM EST
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, you are outdoing yourself tonight with supportive ideas, encouragement and probing questions. Enjoying our PLN
Renard_Teach
Feb 21 @ 9:46 PM EST
A7 The real trouble is balance. Innovation, keeping up with expectations, and then giving quality response is hard.
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housleysc
Feb 21 @ 9:47 PM EST
Just happened upon
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tonight. Can someone tell me what time it goes live each week?
SamReisman93
Feb 21 @ 9:47 PM EST
I was thinking the same thing tonight. As I prepare a response I get flooded in new responses
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In reply to @mrskochheiser
mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:48 PM EST
Question 8 is on the slide!
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PrincipalSmart
Feb 21 @ 9:48 PM EST
Welcome! 8:00 CST
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In reply to @housleysc
mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:49 PM EST
A8) I use the combination of Google Classroom, Docktopus and Goobric to seamlessly read Ss work, score and provide feedback
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Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:49 PM EST
Thanks to
@mrskochheiser
#6thchat
is growing bigger and better each week! Hope you will return!
In reply to @mrskochheiser
PrincipalSmart
Feb 21 @ 9:48 PM EST
Welcome! 8:00 CST
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In reply to @housleysc
Renard_Teach
Feb 21 @ 9:49 PM EST
I am always trying to undo the "help" someone else offered. I tell Ss I can't help you with what you haven't tried.
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In reply to @mrskochheiser
SamReisman93
Feb 21 @ 9:49 PM EST
A8: Keep it simple, but keep it digital. Easy to organize and keep all in one place. Google Sheets is a great resource for this
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:49 PM EST
I always enjoy your unique perspectives that push my thinking
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In reply to @HowardKiyuna
SamReisman93
Feb 21 @ 9:50 PM EST
I consistently hear about Doctopus and Goobric, but today I got to see in action. Definitely going to try out soon
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In reply to @mrskochheiser
Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:51 PM EST
There is still a part of me that likes that written essay on paper in my hand. Tech is slow to come for me.
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:49 PM EST
A8) I use the combination of Google Classroom, Docktopus and Goobric to seamlessly read Ss work, score and provide feedback
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PrincipalSmart
Feb 21 @ 9:51 PM EST
A8 Read a great article last night by
@pernilleripp
on finding time for conferencing with students.
https://t.co/KDXcnQsoaG
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:51 PM EST
I like this, too.
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In reply to @RunnerGirl13_1, @alicekeeler
TrishKing6
Feb 21 @ 9:51 PM EST
A8. Start early w/records esp. if you write narratives for students, it's easier to neaten up notes than start from scratch
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mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:52 PM EST
Hi Sarah. We are weekly: Tuesdays at 9EST. Please join! I will put you on a remind tweet! Great people here
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Teachr4
Feb 21 @ 9:53 PM EST
Thanks
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. Got to go! See everyone next week...although The Voice starts back up!
hoffmanteambret
Feb 21 @ 9:53 PM EST
Amen to this line of thought. S paralysis caused by dominant T-S reliance. OMGosh, next Med Diag Book?
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In reply to @Renard_Teach, @mrskochheiser
mrskochheiser
- Moderator
Feb 21 @ 9:53 PM EST
Perfect response. Will use that.
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RunnerGirl13_1
Feb 21 @ 9:53 PM EST
A8) For writing, remember that it's a process. The feedback loop will help Ss gain momentum over time.
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PrincipalSmart
Feb 21 @ 9:56 PM EST
Thanks for the great chat as always! Have a wonderful rest of your week!
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TrishKing6
Feb 21 @ 9:58 PM EST
Great first chat, I'll definitely be back! Thanks
#6thchat
!
TeacherRunner42
Feb 21 @ 9:58 PM EST
have a great rest of your week,
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!