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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:00 PM EST

Hi #SAMedchat! Rachel, Curriculum Specialist in Bozeman, MT. Haven't done #shadowastudent but it sounds incredible! Excited to learn w you!

AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:01 PM EST

Welcome @rachelmarker to #SAMedchat! Thank you for co'ing with me!

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:02 PM EST

Excited to be here! #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:03 PM EST

Chat will be the standard Q1/A1 format. Include #SAMedchat on every post! @AdrianAdvinMT

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:03 PM EST

Hello! I'm Adrian from Bozeman. This will be my 2nd yr doing #shadowastudent #SAMedchat

AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:04 PM EST

Question 1 is on its way… #SAMedchat

rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:05 PM EST

Q1 is here! @AdrianAdvinMT #SAMedchat

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AaronGr58249640 Jan 12 @ 9:05 PM EST

Aaron from ft elm #SAMedchat

rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:05 PM EST

Hi Aaron! So glad you're here! #SAMedchat

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:05 PM EST

Welcome! We look forward to learning w/you! #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:06 PM EST

A1 I think shadowing would provide insight into the daily S and Tchr experience–build empathy & help us support Ss and staff. #SAMedchat

AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:08 PM EST

A1 #shadowastudent provided me an opp to get a better understanding of an S's day. I was able to make shifts base on this exp #SAMedchat

rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:10 PM EST

Nothing better than living an experience and getting in the trenches to gain perspective! #SAMedchat

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AaronGr58249640 Jan 12 @ 9:10 PM EST

A1 it was an awesome experience...I did this in November in a 4th grade classs #SAMedchat

AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:11 PM EST

Question 2 is on its way… #SAMedchat

rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:11 PM EST

Look forward to hearing more! Will you do it again this year? #SAMedchat

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:11 PM EST

Cool! Any takeaways? #SAMedchat

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:12 PM EST

Q2: What are some areas of the school day that you would be curious to experience? #SAMedchat

AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:12 PM EST

Yes! It is all about our Ss & Ts having a rich & positive experience in our schools! #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:13 PM EST

A2: Transitions, recess, social stresses. Also, times during day when Ss might get lost re: instruction. #SAMedchat

AcemtAndrea Jan 12 @ 9:13 PM EST

Hey! Sorry I'm late! Haven't shadowed a student but excited to learn more and follow along tonight! Andrea from Billings:) #samedchat

AaronGr58249640 Jan 12 @ 9:13 PM EST

A2 for me it was art class...not much of an artist/recess was difficult as well because a lot of kids wanted my attention #SAMedchat

AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:14 PM EST

Welcome! Glad you can join #SAMedchat!

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:14 PM EST

Hi Andrea! So glad you could jump in! #SAMedchat

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AcemtAndrea Jan 12 @ 9:15 PM EST

A2 social and unstructured times would be of interest to me as they seem to make school difficult for lots of Ss (& families) #samedchat

AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:15 PM EST

A2: Before & after school, bus travel, unstructured time... #SAMedchat

rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:16 PM EST

Makes me wonder what Ss don't enjoy bc things are difficlt, or they don't feel 'good' at them. #SAMedchat

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AcemtAndrea Jan 12 @ 9:16 PM EST

A2 also, transitions between grade levels and schools are tough and would be worth understanding better #samedchat

AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:17 PM EST

Question 3 is on its way… #SAMedchat

AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:17 PM EST

They did enjoy seeing us out there didn't they? We need to make that more of a habit #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:18 PM EST

Q3: Do you anticipate any specific challenges that Ss might face in a school day? @AdrianAdvinMT #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:18 PM EST

Math is taught so differently. Many strategies for solving! Focus is on process, which is great! 👍🏼 #SAMedchat

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:18 PM EST

I've never thought of using this experience in that way - very insightful! #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:19 PM EST

A3: Navigating social pieces. Advocating for self, asking for help. Depends on student, though. #SAMedchat

rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:19 PM EST

Some Ss thrive in unstructured time, others struggle. Impt *not* to have entire day scheduled, I think. #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:20 PM EST

You and @AdrianAdvinMT both mention 'unstructured.' I think school is often too structured. How do we bld Ss' capcty #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:21 PM EST

Ha! Probably what a lot of parents experience w homework. One reason I'm not a proponent! #SAMedchat

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:21 PM EST

A3: Interactions btwn Ts & other Ss. Ss struggling through academics; Ss struggling through the length of the day... #SAMedchat

AcemtAndrea Jan 12 @ 9:21 PM EST

A3 I love how curious Ss are about what I do, but smile and kind words seem to go so far! Positive adult relationships? #SAMedchat

AaronGr58249640 Jan 12 @ 9:22 PM EST

A3 movement we try to do the mornings with no interuptions....2 hours is to long a time block with out letting the kids move #SAMedchat

AcemtAndrea Jan 12 @ 9:22 PM EST

A3 students seem to "find" me for think sheets and the like:) I love it and maybe they are seeking an advocate? #SAMedchat

AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:23 PM EST

Question 4 is on its way… #SAMedchat

rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:23 PM EST

It's nice to have uninterrupted chunks, but hopefully Ts can build in movement + brain breaks? #SAMedchat

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:23 PM EST

I want to know more on how Ss maneuver through unstructured time. Not saying it's a neg. thing #SAMedchat

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:24 PM EST

Q4: How would you go about selecting a student to shadow? What are impt considerations? #SAMedchat

rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:25 PM EST

Gotcha. Possible to gain insights re: building choice and voice and making that time productive. #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:25 PM EST

Oh fun! @GoNoodle is another that Ss love if you have access. #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:27 PM EST

I bet they are! I'm sure you radiate nothing but positivity to them and give them a great BOOST! #SAMedchat

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AcemtAndrea Jan 12 @ 9:27 PM EST

A4 so many possibilities! Maybe it'd depend on what you are seeking to better understand? #SAMedchat

AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:27 PM EST

A4: Last year I wanted to get a "baseline"-I shadowed a gen ed, "proficient" student w/little needs. Now I'm looking at specifics #SAMedchat

rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:28 PM EST

You are wicked smaaahhhhht! Nice to have baseline for comparison. #SAMedchat

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:29 PM EST

Question 5 is on its way… #SAMedchat

AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:29 PM EST

A4.2: EL, sped, gifted, athlete, artist, writer... so many choices! #SAMedchat

rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:29 PM EST

A4 Like @AcemtAndrea I think it wld depend on goals. Perhaps if theres an area of concern, you shadow S who might be affected? #SAMedchat

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:29 PM EST

Yes!!! That's why prepping for this day is huge! #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:30 PM EST

Q5: How would you record your observations during the day for later reflection? @AdrianAdvinMT #SAMedchat

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:31 PM EST

You can use previous SEL surveys, interviews, etc. to help make that decision... #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:31 PM EST

A4 b) Maybe an 'introvert'? Wld like to see opportunities thruout school day for these Ss. #SAMedchat

AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:31 PM EST

Anytime! I am doing this multiple times this year beyond the #shadowastudent day! #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:32 PM EST

Great point. Would be helpful to have that data to ref! #SAMedchat

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AaronGr58249640 Jan 12 @ 9:32 PM EST

I did my formal evaluation of the tt that day during math. I tried to do all assignments ss were doing....no email no coffee #SAMedchat

AcemtAndrea Jan 12 @ 9:32 PM EST

A5 thinking on this...how do you keep judgment out of your observations? #SAMedchat

AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:33 PM EST

Exactly! You have to immerse yourself in the entire experience! #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:33 PM EST

That would be a challenge for me! #SAMedchat

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AcemtAndrea Jan 12 @ 9:34 PM EST

love the point of real engagement in doing everything a student does! Great point. #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:34 PM EST

A5 I would tweet a bunch. And use Snapchat to create a story of the day. #SAMedchat

AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:35 PM EST

Question 6 is on its way… #SAMedchat

AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:35 PM EST

I don't think you can. If you notice something amazing or awful you will experience what that S feels... #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:35 PM EST

maybe limit to photo document, vox notes, tweets. Save reflection for later. Is judgment necess bad? #SAMedchat

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:36 PM EST

Q6: What are some ways we can reflect on the #shadowastudent experience? #SAMedchat

AcemtAndrea Jan 12 @ 9:36 PM EST

A5 who narrates the story that is told? maybe it depends on purpose for sharing the learning from the experience? #SAMedchat

AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:37 PM EST

A5: Photo/video library, tweat throughout the day, bring a journal... #SAMedchat

AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:37 PM EST

You are spot on! #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:37 PM EST

I hear ya on the judgment piece. Reflection can hopefully help w our leadership. Not "judgy", but observant? #SAMedchat

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AaronGr58249640 Jan 12 @ 9:38 PM EST

A6 It is hard to be a student! Kids are so much more in tune to the world around them. #SAMedchat

rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:38 PM EST

Excellent point! It /is/ a narrative. Who is our audience? What story are we telling? #SAMedchat

AcemtAndrea Jan 12 @ 9:36 PM EST

A5 who narrates the story that is told? maybe it depends on purpose for sharing the learning from the experience? #SAMedchat

AcemtAndrea Jan 12 @ 9:38 PM EST

as you can tell, I'm processing! So love the feedback from your experience! Thank you! #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:39 PM EST

Would that be tweet + sweat? I can imagine that combo on a shadow day :) #SAMedchat

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:39 PM EST

A6: I ref. w/my peers in the district. There were 2 other admin who did this challenge. If it were only me, I would access my PLN #SAMedchat

AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:40 PM EST

Ha ha - whoops #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:40 PM EST

Did your S (and/or others) mind the documenting? Did you feel any Ss were 'performing' for you? #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:40 PM EST

I know, Andrea is SO on it! #SAMedchat

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:41 PM EST

Question 7 is on its way… #SAMedchat

rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:41 PM EST

We're old and rusty at the student thing! #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:41 PM EST

Bingo! Love it. Hmmm, future blog post?? :) #SAMedchat

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:42 PM EST

The S's didn't mind the documenting. There was a little show at 1st, but when you're there the entire day it stops #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:42 PM EST

Q7: How would you share your experience with your staff (and beyond)? @AdrianAdvinMT #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:43 PM EST

That makes sense! Can't wait to follow your tweets! I should show you @snapchat. Uh-mazing for documentation! #SAMedchat

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:44 PM EST

Great use of Social Media! #SAMedchat

AaronGr58249640 Jan 12 @ 9:42 PM EST

I did Facebook updates on the elem fbook page the parents loved it
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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:44 PM EST

A6 I wld connect w my PLN and other admin. And I'd probably blog about the experience. #SAMedchat

AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:45 PM EST

You have turned me on to the world of blogging - Thanks!!! #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:45 PM EST

What a great way to share w parents and broader community! #SAMedchat

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AcemtAndrea Jan 12 @ 9:45 PM EST

A7 wonder how powerful it'd be to get to a point where Ts could do this too? #SAMedchat

rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:46 PM EST

It's so new to me, too! Definitely a completely diff way of sharing and connecting. So far very cool! #SAMedchat

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:46 PM EST

Well education is a family affair :) #SAMedchat

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:47 PM EST

Question 8 is on its way… #SAMedchat

rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:47 PM EST

I was just thinking the same thing. Such impt perspective for us all to have! I would happily sub for a T... #SAMedchat

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:47 PM EST

A7: I held a opt meeting to share my reflections, we shared this with our board during a meeting, & I opened this up to the staff #SAMedchat

AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:48 PM EST

Q8: How could your experience guide the leadership work you are doing at your site? #SAMedchat

rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:48 PM EST

Keep at it! Squeaky wheel... :) #SAMedchat

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AcemtAndrea Jan 12 @ 9:48 PM EST

and they narrate the story from a different perspective than an "admin";) #SAMedchat

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:49 PM EST

We are on the same wavelength! I opened this up to my Ts last year. No takers, but I will do it again this year. #SAMedchat

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AaronGr58249640 Jan 12 @ 9:49 PM EST

A8: the staff loved it! They know how important positive ss relationships are to me. #SAMedchat

rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:49 PM EST

A7 Blog post(s) wld allow Ts to read on own...? Impt to share experience w Ts. And debrief w T you were with all day. #SAMedchat

rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:50 PM EST

Love this. Great idea to make it optional. I hope many came! #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:50 PM EST

Absolutely! #SAMedchat

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:51 PM EST

It is all about the relationships... #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:51 PM EST

I bet you'd get takers if it meant no sub plans... :) #SAMedchat

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:52 PM EST

A8: It provides a focus on positive change for our Ss & Ts! #SAMedchat

AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:52 PM EST

I would plan the day if they took this on. Great idea! #SAMedchat

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AcemtAndrea Jan 12 @ 9:52 PM EST

and, of course, culture is SO important...has to be safe enough for the risk! #SAMedchat

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:53 PM EST

Question 9 is on its way… #SAMedchat

rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:53 PM EST

As @gcouros says... #SAMedchat

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:53 PM EST

I agree! I am amazed at how wonderful our Ts are at Irving School! #SAMedchat #IRlearns

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:54 PM EST

Q9: What is your next step in considering participation in #shadowastudent?@AdrianAdvinMT #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:54 PM EST

A8: Admin shares observations, Ts reflect and find common area of focus for whole-school work? #SAMedchat

AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:54 PM EST

So true! #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:55 PM EST

I second that! An amazing staff with BIG heart! #SAMedchat #IRlearns

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:56 PM EST

A9 Well, I guess I need to become an admin. :) For now, I will live vicariously through #shadowastudent & @AdrianAdvinMT! #SAMedchat

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:56 PM EST

Meaningful collaboration - true purposeful work #SAMedchat

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AcemtAndrea Jan 12 @ 9:56 PM EST

A9 find a focus for shadowing-I can access almost any student/sitituation in many schools so perhaps can do some insightful work #SAMedchat

AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:56 PM EST

A9: I'm already signed up and ready to go! #SAMedchat

AaronGr58249640 Jan 12 @ 9:57 PM EST

A9 to get several other administrators to do this on the same day in west mont! Keep it real for the kids in ft elm #SAMedchat

AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:57 PM EST

You can #shadowastudent at #IRlearns :) #SAMedchat

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rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:57 PM EST

Purposeful. That's the key! And chosen as a collective whole by staff + admin. #SAMedchat

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AcemtAndrea Jan 12 @ 9:58 PM EST

wonder what insight it could provide in your search for new math text? Might be worth it! #SAMedchat

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AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Jan 12 @ 9:59 PM EST

Interested in learning more? Here’s the site link & Toolkit #SAMedchat: https://t.co/0K53ewfp8W https://t.co/Q4QkqbccXe

rachelmarker Jan 12 @ 9:59 PM EST

Great point! Love your idea of finding a focus/purpose for the shadowing. Maybe @rcarrMT wld be game? #SAMedchat

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