#SwDMathChat Archive
Thursday October 13, 2016
9:00 PM EDT
KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Welcome to tonight's
#swdmathchat
! Let's start with intros: name, location, grade level, setting. & share w/ us your favorite comfort food!
KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:00 PM EDT
After intros we will follow the Q1/A1 chat format. Please always remember the
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in your tweets to include everyone!
jamiedunc3
Oct 13 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Jamie Duncan here. So Cal first grade. I am an inclusion teacher. Favorite comfort food. Fancy mac and cheese
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 13 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Andrew, NYC, self-contained HS, grilled cheese and tomato soup!
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 13 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@jamiedunc3
how fancy we talking? Truffle oil and lobster? :D
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jamiedunc3
Oct 13 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@bkdidact
perfect
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Sahar, NYC, I'm a GenEd teacher in inclusion setting -- classic mac and cheese!
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tcesarski
Oct 13 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Taylor - preservice secondary math from NC! & ice cream :)
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mathconfidence
Oct 13 @ 9:05 PM EDT
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Robin NYC classroom college level work w secondary teachers tutor grades 5+ comfort food = zone bar
DDibley123
Oct 13 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Dawn from MN SpEd Math Coach Wild Rice Soup. Trying 2 chats at once
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@DDibley123
Daredevil!! And that sounds delicious!
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 13 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@tcesarski
welcome Taylor!
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@bkdidact
@jamiedunc3
You need to check out Queens Comfort in Astoria! Their truffle macNcheese is the best
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@mathconfidence
Hi there!
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massignmenthelp
Oct 13 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Pros and cons of higher education
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mrshainesmath
Oct 13 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Heather Elementary Math Specialist in MA favorite comfort food - winter vegetable soup
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@mrshainesmath
welcome Heather!
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 13 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@mrshainesmath
hi Heather!
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Alright ya'll let's talk building community and collaboration. Q1 is on the way...
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mrshainesmath
Oct 13 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@KhatriMath
thanks it's nice to have found the time to join you all again
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q1:What fundmntal chracteritsic is needed in coworking relationship b/w SpEd/GenEd tchrs?What are specific ways to foster that?
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DDibley123
Oct 13 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1: Both teachers need to consider all Ss as "our students."
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mrshainesmath
Oct 13 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@KhatriMath
A1: respect of each other as educators and peers not 1 more important or powerful than the other
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jamiedunc3
Oct 13 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A1: Modeling being humble. Being open.
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jamiedunc3
Oct 13 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A1: Spend time learning together. Maybe lesson study format??
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@mrshainesmath
what are some ways we can maintain that balanced power structure?
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DDibley123
Oct 13 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A1: Time to co-plan and to get to know each other. Too many Ts don't have that opportunity.
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tcesarski
Oct 13 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A1: Respect so that the Ss know that it is a shared classroom with shared authority
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mrshainesmath
Oct 13 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@jamiedunc3
yes, I think learning together is super important to build that relationship
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Having time to actually co-plan?! Blasphemy!
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DDibley123
Oct 13 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A1: Time to co-plan and to get to know each other. Too many Ts don't have that opportunity.
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jamiedunc3
Oct 13 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@mrshainesmath
Kind of an "enough time in the day" issue
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 13 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A1: True parity demonstrated to all: students, families, colleagues, and admin
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mrshainesmath
Oct 13 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@KhatriMath
coplanning lessons where both people share responsibility for all parts of a lesson not 1 always in helper role
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@DDibley123
It's so important yet so overlooked in logistics of scheduling (in lots of places)
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jamiedunc3
Oct 13 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Seriously. This is a big hurdle.
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Having time to actually co-plan?! Blasphemy!
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DDibley123
Oct 13 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A1: Time to co-plan and to get to know each other. Too many Ts don't have that opportunity.
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@bkdidact
parity to ss part is critical. They easily sense when there is that imbalance.
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DDibley123
Oct 13 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@KhatriMath
I lead a cohort of co-Ts. They are given up to 4 half days for planning Also expected to plan together weekly.
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jamiedunc3
Oct 13 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@mrshainesmath
It's hard when my other half doesn't work to learn more about pedagogical content knowledge
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@DDibley123
that's awesome!
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@DDibley123
thankfully my dpt is really great abt coplanning. We have 2 days and then common preps. We're a well oiled machine!
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mrshainesmath
Oct 13 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@DDibley123
are those 4 -1/2 days throughout the year?
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 13 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@KhatriMath
Could be as simple as both names posted everywhere or as deep as both teachers teaching all students.
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DDibley123
Oct 13 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Ts are getting creative with Google Drive/Docs to plan and share documents.
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DDibley123
Oct 13 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@KhatriMath
Common prep is important - not all buildings doing that in my district.
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DDibley123
Oct 13 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@mrshainesmath
Yes, partners can choose when they want to take them. Also get a half day to visit another co-teaching team.
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mrshainesmath
Oct 13 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@KhatriMath
is that 2 days at the beginning of a course, in summer...?
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DDibley123
Oct 13 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@bkdidact
@KhatriMath
I was just going to mention both names being posted.
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jamiedunc3
Oct 13 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@DDibley123
@KhatriMath
you need to come lead our district!
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 13 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@DDibley123
@KhatriMath
I honestly don't know how I would go about co-teaching without common preps!
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mrshainesmath
Oct 13 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@DDibley123
very nice. Is that see their class or visit during co-planning time?
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 13 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Sorry! Forgot the hashtag!
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 13 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@jamiedunc3
@mrshainesmath
like this 4%?
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jamiedunc3
Oct 13 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@bkdidact
@mrshainesmath
@educationweek
This is the biggest problem right now! So my solution is to just do it myself
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DDibley123
Oct 13 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@jamiedunc3
@KhatriMath
I'm just the facilitator. Someone else came up with the $$
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Glad they see the value.
KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@bkdidact
it helps that our SpEd tchrs are dept. instead of teaching across contents
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@jamiedunc3
@mrshainesmath
bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 13 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@DDibley123
@KhatriMath
some things are so simple, but valuable!
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DDibley123
Oct 13 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@mrshainesmath
It's separate from the 4-half days for planning.
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@bkdidact
@jamiedunc3
@mrshainesmath
and principal also takes into account comfrt level whenever he can.
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 13 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@KhatriMath
@jamiedunc3
@mrshainesmath
they are only math teachers? That's rare!
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jamiedunc3
Oct 13 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@KhatriMath
@bkdidact
@mrshainesmath
I bet!
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@bkdidact
@jamiedunc3
@mrshainesmath
most of our sped tchrs teach one content. A few don't (usually if they teach 12:1:1 class)
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@mrshainesmath
that's weekly
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 13 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@KhatriMath
@jamiedunc3
@mrshainesmath
oh man! I'd love to chat with the math ones! Are they on the twitter?
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@bkdidact
@jamiedunc3
@mrshainesmath
I WISH!!!! Sadly no.
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jamiedunc3
Oct 13 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@KhatriMath
@bkdidact
@mrshainesmath
Are you secondary?
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@jamiedunc3
@bkdidact
@mrshainesmath
yes, middle school
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mrshainesmath
Oct 13 @ 9:34 PM EDT
I second that
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 13 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@KhatriMath
@jamiedunc3
@mrshainesmath
oh man! I'd love to chat with the math ones! Are they on the twitter?
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 13 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@KhatriMath
@jamiedunc3
@mrshainesmath
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jamiedunc3
Oct 13 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@KhatriMath
@bkdidact
@mrshainesmath
Im elementary. Only have one on site.
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@bkdidact
@jamiedunc3
@mrshainesmath
I know right they might as well be! They hear enough of it from me!
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@jamiedunc3
@bkdidact
@mrshainesmath
got it...
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 13 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@KhatriMath
@jamiedunc3
@mrshainesmath
I'm planning a twitter intervention PD for my staff later this year!
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 13 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@jamiedunc3
@KhatriMath
@mrshainesmath
which seems crazy to me!
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@jamiedunc3
@bkdidact
@mrshainesmath
One Sped teacher. period. ??
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@bkdidact
@jamiedunc3
@mrshainesmath
I want to hear more about this later!!
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 13 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@KhatriMath
@jamiedunc3
@mrshainesmath
got one on already! Right
@Brett_Nunziata
!
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 13 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@KhatriMath
@jamiedunc3
@mrshainesmath
will do, once it goes down!
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Related Q2 on it's way...
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mrshainesmath
Oct 13 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@jamiedunc3
@KhatriMath
@bkdidact
how many students/grades is that for?
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jamiedunc3
Oct 13 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@KhatriMath
@bkdidact
@mrshainesmath
You heard me right
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:41 PM EDT
When your question > 140 characters...
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@jamiedunc3
@bkdidact
@mrshainesmath
yikes!
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jamiedunc3
Oct 13 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@mrshainesmath
@KhatriMath
@bkdidact
Sorry two per site. One for pre-k through 2nd. One for 3-5. Each grade has five classrooms
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:44 PM EDT
@jamiedunc3
@mrshainesmath
@bkdidact
yeh its so hard to meaningfully plan when its across subjects
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 13 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A2: I'll listen on this one because my whole school is special education. So the answer is A LOT!
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DDibley123
Oct 13 @ 9:44 PM EDT
@lauren_glaaa
Visual models and manips. to show how operations are related. Building and dividing an array, rotating an array
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:45 PM EDT
@jamiedunc3
@mrshainesmath
@bkdidact
and even more so when math is involved -.-
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jamiedunc3
Oct 13 @ 9:45 PM EDT
@bkdidact
hahahahaha
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jamiedunc3
Oct 13 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A2: I think our district has good intentions, but they can't afford to pay us for what really needs to be done to do it well
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:46 PM EDT
a2: We give out IEPs, do RTI left and write, have common preps so a lot...but sometimes SPed still gets short end of the stick.
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jamiedunc3
Oct 13 @ 9:47 PM EDT
@KhatriMath
@mrshainesmath
@bkdidact
I'd rather do it alone.
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 13 @ 9:48 PM EDT
I hope
@KhatriMath
doesn't mind if I share a related
@TCM_at_NCTM
article!
https://t.co/Aqezn0DeLO
Wondering people's thoughts
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jamiedunc3
Oct 13 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Thanks for a great chat. Got to run!
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DDibley123
Oct 13 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A2 SpEd Ts are valued but I think too many gen ed Ts want to abdicate responsibility for SpEd Ss.
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@bkdidact
of course not.
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mrshainesmath
Oct 13 @ 9:50 PM EDT
@bkdidact
so what does a lot look like? Do you have 2 teachers in each class or are you all dual certified?
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 13 @ 9:50 PM EDT
@jamiedunc3
@KhatriMath
@mrshainesmath
but when co-teaching is good, it's so good, especially for the students!
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:50 PM EDT
@jamiedunc3
Thanks for joining us!
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@bkdidact
@jamiedunc3
@mrshainesmath
I had a 3 year relationship w/ mine. We were school renowned co-teaching pair
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mrshainesmath
Oct 13 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@bkdidact
@KhatriMath
@TCM_at_NCTM
I can't open it with the link. What was the article title? I can look it up
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 13 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@mrshainesmath
We only have students with IEPs. All classes are 12:1:1 and have a head T and a certified asst. T (not a para)
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@bkdidact
@jamiedunc3
@mrshainesmath
I've learned so much from her and basically teach all my ss with those strategies
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 13 @ 9:53 PM EDT
@KhatriMath
@jamiedunc3
@mrshainesmath
I've never gone more than 2 years! Waiting for that magical longitudinal relationship!
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 13 @ 9:53 PM EDT
@mrshainesmath
@KhatriMath
@TCM_at_NCTM
models for students with special needs
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:53 PM EDT
@bkdidact
This is my first year teaching without her. It's weird. But we teach same grade so still co-plan
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Oct 13 @ 9:55 PM EDT
@DDibley123
@KhatriMath
@jamiedunc3
@mrshainesmath
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Quick Q3 to close us off: What have been some positive experiences working alongside GenEd OR SpEd teachers?
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DDibley123
Oct 13 @ 9:55 PM EDT
oops wrong #
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DDibley123
Oct 13 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@KhatriMath
@bkdidact
@jamiedunc3
@mrshainesmath
I wish more admin would work to keep Ts together.
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KhatriMath
Oct 13 @ 9:56 PM EDT
@DDibley123
@bkdidact
@jamiedunc3
@mrshainesmath
I'm glad that's a priority at my school
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