#HipHopEd Archive

#HipHopEd Chat is a weekly cyber cypher (chat) where stakeholders within Hip-Hop and Education come together to discuss issues that impact the youth and adults within our local, national and global communities. #HipHopEd Chat is a virtual form of professional development for Educators, workshop for Parents and other Adults and a brainstorming session of Hip-Hop practitioners. Our #HipHopEd chats are every Tuesday from 9-10 EST. on Twitter.

Tuesday February 19, 2019
9:00 PM EST

  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Welcome 2 #HipHopEd tonight we are discussing the roles of education and culture when it comes to addressing teen dating violence
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:02 PM EST
    February is Teen Dating Violence awareness month so we believe that it is a very timely discussion to have tonight so let's get it #HipHopEd
  • djdutchesss Feb 19 @ 9:03 PM EST
    There's a lesson I do with my students where we look at the lyrics to "romance" songs in Hip Hop and dig into the implicit messages they are sending. #hiphoped
  • TMarkM Feb 19 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Teaching PoliticizingHipHop for the past 6 years at #NAU always brings me to today: taking an entire classtime to talk about @PublicEnemyFTP & @MrChuckD, & I'm still not done! #HipHop #EthnicStudies #HipHopEd Their assignment for tonight? #FightThePower: https://t.co/pyXo3lUVWM
  • TheRealHipHopEd Feb 19 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Salute to @BLoveSoulPower for the new book “We want to do more than survive” #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:05 PM EST
    There are so many things that can be done utilizing the lyrics to various Hip-Hop songs #HipHopEd
    • djdutchesss Feb 19 @ 9:03 PM EST
      There's a lesson I do with my students where we look at the lyrics to "romance" songs in Hip Hop and dig into the implicit messages they are sending. #hiphoped
  • djdutchesss Feb 19 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Through discussion they start to tease out the nuances between love, lust, romance, possession, etc. #hiphoped
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:06 PM EST
    It is important to delve into what constitutes violence. Think about the perceived overlap of aggression and what is viewed as showing emotion and passion #HipHopEd
  • djdutchesss Feb 19 @ 9:07 PM EST
    I struggle with a lot of Rihanna lyrics that seem to blur those lines. #hiphoped
    In reply to @tdj6899
  • TheRealHipHopEd Feb 19 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Teen dating violence receives its norms and cues from adult dating violence #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:09 PM EST
    I agree and there are other artists who blur the lines of empowerment with violence #HipHopEd
    In reply to @djdutchesss
  • mnemognose Feb 19 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Considering the info medium is helpful as well. My 14yo/9th grader says that her health teacher (not a model educator) did show them documentaries and supply readings that helped her learn the signs of an abusive relationship. #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Welcome 2 #HipHopEd and please use the hash tag in your tweets :)
    In reply to @COsborne_ESL, @djdutchesss
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Here is one example https://t.co/NemYBaammd #HipHopEd
    In reply to @COsborne_ESL, @djdutchesss
  • djdutchesss Feb 19 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Yes, and young people get a lot of ideas about what is "acceptable" and what love and relationships look like from what they see at home. How often do young people talk about what they learn about this from parents, siblings? #hiphoped
    In reply to @TheRealHipHopEd
  • KingAdjapong - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:11 PM EST
    While there are certainly many aspects of hiphop that are misogynistic, there are many examplars of positive relationships #HipHopEd
  • TheRealHipHopEd Feb 19 @ 9:12 PM EST
    #HipHopEd
    • COsborne_ESL Feb 19 @ 9:12 PM EST
      Does it also relate to societal norms for masculinity? The norms may vary slightly by race but still strongly contribute.
      In reply to @TheRealHipHopEd
  • callmemrmorris Feb 19 @ 9:13 PM EST
    I find this a very curious topic for tonight's #HipHopEd chat as I think about what I see in school (elementary ones).
  • djdutchesss Feb 19 @ 9:13 PM EST
    "You love when I fall apart (fall apart) So you can put me together and throw me against the wall" #hiphoped
    In reply to @COsborne_ESL, @tdj6899
  • callmemrmorris Feb 19 @ 9:13 PM EST
    On one hand we know our students our exposed to hyperbolized sexuality through many mediums. But on the other hand, we sanitize all interactions between opposite sexes #HipHopEd
  • KingAdjapong - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:14 PM EST
    While there are aspects of hiphop that promote misogyny, there are exemplars of healthy/positive relationships #HipHopEd
  • djdutchesss Feb 19 @ 9:14 PM EST
    "Must be love on the brain That’s got me feeling this way It beats me black and blue but it f@#*& me so good And I can’t get enough"#hiphoped
    In reply to @COsborne_ESL, @tdj6899
  • mnemognose Feb 19 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Great point! Don't forget #COsborne_ESL to use the #HipHopEd hashtag so that your tweets will show up to everyone! (I'm using tweetdeck, and only paying attention to the column that filters for that #).
    In reply to @COsborne_ESL, @TheRealHipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:14 PM EST
    #HipHopEd I've had young people act out relationship interactions where the only words they could speak to one another were Hip-Hop lyrics. Singing along is different that being spoken to with the same words.
  • callmemrmorris Feb 19 @ 9:14 PM EST
    I supervise school dances and the rule of thumb for years has been "no-touching". Girls can dance with girls and boys with boys, but essentially there is no mingling between genders #HipHopEd
  • callmemrmorris Feb 19 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Also, I don't want to go as far as saying there is no longer "real R&B", but..if the youth don't want to hear 1 slow song at a dance, how are we, as an institution, suppose to foster healthy relationships? #HipHopEd
  • amilcook - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:15 PM EST
    New social media stars in HH have become popular by having relationship channels & streams. Some seem positive some less so #HipHopEd
  • djdutchesss Feb 19 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Say more about this. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @callmemrmorris
  • callmemrmorris Feb 19 @ 9:16 PM EST
    check my feed..Just dropped a few thoughts.. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @djdutchesss
  • TheRealHipHopEd Feb 19 @ 9:16 PM EST
    As Educators we have to build the relationships that Students trust enough to see the school as a safe space to share when they feel unsafe in any way #HipHopEd
  • KingAdjapong - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Many seem like situationships/business relationships #hiphoped
    In reply to @amilcook
  • jaydavis101 Feb 19 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Teen dating violence starts with how we acculturate boys and girls early on. #HipHopEd
  • ELAFletch Feb 19 @ 9:17 PM EST
    https://t.co/OO3zBu1J8x is a fantastic resource and has teaching materials that I've implemented in my classroom. @loveisrespect #HipHopEd
  • mrsg_mchs Feb 19 @ 9:17 PM EST
    #HipHopEd
    • TheRealHipHopEd Feb 19 @ 9:16 PM EST
      As Educators we have to build the relationships that Students trust enough to see the school as a safe space to share when they feel unsafe in any way #HipHopEd
  • chrisemdin - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Coteaching in #RealityPedagogy works the same way in large and small classrooms. Have one student teach at a time #HipHopEd
    In reply to @nerd_girl_m
  • mnemognose Feb 19 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Reinforcing heteronormativity, and not giving all children opportunities to exercise what they're (hopefully) learning about consent or about each other. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @callmemrmorris
  • COsborne_ESL Feb 19 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Curious: Is there any education that goes along with this? How to touch respectfully when they walk out the door (since we all know they will!!) 😆 #HipHopEd
    In reply to @callmemrmorris
  • TheRealHipHopEd Feb 19 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Please follow @KingAdjapong as he shares videos that show examples of relationships that can be used to help our students build healthy relationships #HipHopEd
  • callmemrmorris Feb 19 @ 9:20 PM EST
    That's what I am struggling with. I fear that we are not providing that "implicit" curriculum because our schools have shifted to uber PC-ness #HipHopEd
    In reply to @mnemognose
  • chrisemdin - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Students learn more from what we do than what we say. We curb teen dating violence by modeling positive relationships #HipHopEd
  • jaydavis101 Feb 19 @ 9:20 PM EST
    How are we modeling healthy relationships and recreating our socialization patterns for children? #HipHopEd
  • amilcook - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:21 PM EST
    The young talent Polo G drop the hood ode Mrs. Capalot https://t.co/IAc0nFXQXX captures the value of healthy relationships that is STILL respected in our community #HipHopEd https://t.co/IAc0nFXQXX
    In reply to @KingAdjapong
  • callmemrmorris Feb 19 @ 9:21 PM EST
    I know that Phys Ed and Health curriculum has an aim on healthy relationships. But that is "book learning". What about real-time, contextual experience within schools? #HipHopEd
    In reply to @COsborne_ESL
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:21 PM EST
    As men/boys we have to rule out any notion of "she deserved it or she should've known better" from our narrative as explanations for violent behaviors towards girls/women #HipHopEd
  • COsborne_ESL Feb 19 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Do we directly teach what could constitute as “unsafe?” There are so many shades in between.... especially for girls. There are instincts girls need to be taught to listen to and feelings that we are often taught to ‘let go’ to be cool or pilote. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @TheRealHipHopEd
  • mnemognose Feb 19 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Which, I daresay, includes some consensual, inter-gender* physical contact (*beyond the binary). #HipHopEd
    In reply to @chrisemdin
  • MsVega218 Feb 19 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Amen! We all have to be better models...💯 #HipHopEd
    • chrisemdin - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:20 PM EST
      Students learn more from what we do than what we say. We curb teen dating violence by modeling positive relationships #HipHopEd
  • Ianplevy - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:22 PM EST
    J. Cole details the beauty of communication, collaboration, and growth in authentic relationships. https://t.co/xuPeBNQB0k #HipHopEd #FoldinClothes
  • djdutchesss Feb 19 @ 9:23 PM EST
    And celebrating positive relationships! #HipHopEd
    • chrisemdin - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:20 PM EST
      Students learn more from what we do than what we say. We curb teen dating violence by modeling positive relationships #HipHopEd
  • TheRealHipHopEd Feb 19 @ 9:23 PM EST
    We have to develop our students to become truthful with their own feelings and emotions and not placate to norms that harm #HipHopEd
    In reply to @COsborne_ESL
  • Ianplevy - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:24 PM EST
    We are told all too often to keep our private life separate form our work. There is value in discussing certain parts of your relationship to model important skills, like communication, to students #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Common - Come Close ft. Mary J. Blige https://t.co/s99yanfva2 via @YouTube #HipHopEd
  • HRHGloriaSantos Feb 19 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Girls need to know they can have the relationship they want, not one they had to accept. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @tdj6899
  • COsborne_ESL Feb 19 @ 9:25 PM EST
    This is a great example of how curriculum falls SHORT of real need in our schools. It is absolutely our responsibility to teach children how to build positive relationships and love correctly. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @callmemrmorris
  • mnemognose Feb 19 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Yes, that's what it sounds like! I don't hear them making room for non-binary and non-gender-conforming students, either. Moving towards "consent in every situation" based on a model of respect for personal boundaries doesn't need to hang on to CYA-PC-ness (imho!). #HipHopEd
    In reply to @callmemrmorris
  • KingAdjapong - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:26 PM EST
    As a jay z fan, it was dope watching/listening to him grow and challenge his social norms around relationships to be a better man for his wife and family. How do we have these conversations with young people? #hiphoped
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:27 PM EST
    This is a REAL distinction that must be made. The first woman that really broke this down for me, I married #HipHopEd
    In reply to @HRHGloriaSantos
  • HRHGloriaSantos Feb 19 @ 9:27 PM EST
    HH artists themselves have questionable ideas of what is romantic and wholesome in a relationship. I've known male artists composing what they think is a love song and as a woman I just could not see the love in it. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @tdj6899
  • ELAFletch Feb 19 @ 9:27 PM EST
    One activity @loveisrespect provides asks the Ss to filter behaviors into three categories: Healthy, Unhealthy, and Abusive. Ss miscategorized many of the behaviors, and some necessary discussions ensued. #HipHopEd
  • mnemognose Feb 19 @ 9:28 PM EST
    I love this!!! <3 <3 <3 #HipHopEd
    In reply to @tdj6899, @HRHGloriaSantos
  • callmemrmorris Feb 19 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Yup. I remember this completely. #HipHopEd
    • MadameDixonEdu Feb 19 @ 9:23 PM EST
      Interesting perspective on fostering relationships. Was just talking to a friend about being able to count on (and look forward to) the music we sang along and moved to — Craig David, Aaliyah, Usher, etc.
      In reply to @callmemrmorris
  • darylhowardphd Feb 19 @ 9:28 PM EST
    As educators its incumbent upon us to help students find a prosocial definition for dating. Hip Hop can assist in the exploration but we cant be afraid to be critical of it, or other sources for that matter which perpetuate unhealthy behaviors. #hiphoped
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Reasonable Doubt to 4:44 as it has played out in our own lives makes this more insightful for our students #HipHopEd
    • KingAdjapong - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:26 PM EST
      As a jay z fan, it was dope watching/listening to him grow and challenge his social norms around relationships to be a better man for his wife and family. How do we have these conversations with young people? #hiphoped
  • COsborne_ESL Feb 19 @ 9:29 PM EST
    BUT this can be subtle. “It happened a long time ago... she should have said something.” “She shouldn’t have had that alcohol.” “She didn’t say the word no.” Teaching consent and all the shades in between is important... redefine what it means to be a man, or a woman. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @tdj6899
  • MsVega218 Feb 19 @ 9:29 PM EST
    I remember listening to Eve’s Love is Blind...The song and video brought out so many emotions for me...#HipHopEd
  • TRUESKOOL414 Feb 19 @ 9:29 PM EST
    we enjoy ALL of the convos about #hiphoped we also support everyone actually putting in cultural × educational real work with youth + families!! #wearetrueskool
  • mnemognose Feb 19 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Oooh, thanks for this pointer! #HipHopEd
    In reply to @ELAFletch, @loveisrespect
  • chrisemdin - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:29 PM EST
    I always tell youth you can produce whatever you consume. If a song depicts anything you disagree with, create the alternative #HipHopEd
  • bushidogarvey Feb 19 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Learning traditional academic content is disproportionately study-based instead of trial-error experience, while learning about healthy relationships is disproportionately trial-error experience instead of study-based. I wonder how the classroom can change that. #HipHopEd
  • callmemrmorris Feb 19 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Agreed. Where I am from, I think the system has done an excellent job with non-gender conforming identities. I think where we fall short is in our ability to tease out consent, love, and what relationships should mean #HipHopEd
    In reply to @mnemognose
  • HRHGloriaSantos Feb 19 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Being infantilized, objectified, and hated on constantly is violence. We need to talk about how often we are referred to as bitches and girls and not enough as simply women. https://t.co/1Id8sDWmhP #HipHopEd
    In reply to @tdj6899
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:30 PM EST
    I believe that "how to love" has to be modeled and taught. There is a level that is instinctive but often times it is wrapped in norms that aren't real love #HipHopEd
    In reply to @HRHGloriaSantos
  • mnemognose Feb 19 @ 9:32 PM EST
    I'm not sure I understand what you're saying completely, but I think teaching everyone to wait for a "hell yes!" (h/t #ODAAT) is a very clear way to teach the big picture of consent initially, then move into subtleties. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @COsborne_ESL, @tdj6899
  • HRHGloriaSantos Feb 19 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Do teens have access to art that models healthy relationships? #HipHopEd
    In reply to @tdj6899, @djdutchesss
  • norarahimian Feb 19 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Hip hop loves narratives where women do unreciprocated emotional labor: "ride or die chicks", "hold your man down", etc. That has to go. #HipHopEd
  • gjladson Feb 19 @ 9:33 PM EST
    #HipHopEd our celebration of all things "gangsta" feeds into the idea that everyone wants a thug and thugs can be violent with everybody!
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:33 PM EST
    I agree it's layered but I believe it has to begin with us as men modeling to other men and boys that there is an absolute which is that violence is never justifiable or explainable #HipHopEd
    In reply to @COsborne_ESL
  • anthonylester64 Feb 19 @ 9:33 PM EST
    I feel like as educators, we need to teach lessons not just for the classroom, but for life. I feel like it is important to address our students about this topic and let them know the seriousness behind it. #hiphoped #ElonEd
  • callmemrmorris Feb 19 @ 9:33 PM EST
    I remember really falling in love with Jay after "Song Cry"... That, I think, was a foundational moment of vulnerability for him as a man and something I listened to as a teen and grew from #HipHopEd
    In reply to @KingAdjapong
  • HRHGloriaSantos Feb 19 @ 9:34 PM EST
    And are you sure these are healthy and positive? #HipHopEd
    In reply to @KingAdjapong
  • djdutchesss Feb 19 @ 9:34 PM EST
    We also need to move away from the "ends justified the means" mentality a la "Baby Boy" and Charlemagne marrying the person he admittedly assaulted. #hiphoped
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:34 PM EST
    #Facts #HipHopEd
    • norarahimian Feb 19 @ 9:33 PM EST
      Hip hop loves narratives where women do unreciprocated emotional labor: "ride or die chicks", "hold your man down", etc. That has to go. #HipHopEd
  • chrisemdin - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:34 PM EST
    We must teach young people about breaking cycles of abuse. What am I doing or accepting that I have been exposed to? How am I being deliberate about not replicating it #HipHopEd
  • darylhowardphd Feb 19 @ 9:35 PM EST
    These conversations are not happening as needed because many educators and most school systems don't see social emotional learning (w/ a focus on relationships) as a priority at the secondary level. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @KingAdjapong
  • COsborne_ESL Feb 19 @ 9:35 PM EST
    You got it. Consent today looks different than what was considered consent even five years ago. Consent is respect and clear. Teaching our young men that a woman who drank alcohol alongside them should be taken to a safe place, not taken advantage of. #hipHopEd
    In reply to @tdj6899
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:35 PM EST
    Loyalty that is expected in scenarios that are self inflicted by the man onto the woman is something that we have to get rid of entirely #HipHopEd
    In reply to @norarahimian
  • gjladson Feb 19 @ 9:36 PM EST
    #HipHopEd We need to remind our children that EVERYBODY deserves "good love"@marclamonthill
  • TRUESKOOL414 Feb 19 @ 9:37 PM EST
    "They" say they wanna hear (youth) artists speaking up on serious issues - WELL, Listen to Vol. 2 of Youth Fighting 4 justice #yf4j #youthfighting4justice #wearetrueskool https://t.co/5wLl3TpCVq #love #hiphoped
  • experentiadocet Feb 19 @ 9:37 PM EST
    In a TechGirl weekly series we are facilitating at the YWCA, we will be teaching our 25 high students who identify as female how to create VR & AR apps to educate on how to note the harbingers of teen violence...and ways to heal from it. Educate, then tech-create. #HipHopEd
  • HRHGloriaSantos Feb 19 @ 9:37 PM EST
    "Make Me Better", for example, burdens only one person in the relationship with all the emotional work, with little accountability for the narrator/poet's own actions and feelings. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @KingAdjapong
  • norarahimian Feb 19 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Hip hop as a reflection of society. And can you think of examples where the opposite is true, where men are told to stick by a woman no matter how hard of a time she's having? #HipHopEd
    In reply to @SherronShabazz
  • MsVega218 Feb 19 @ 9:37 PM EST
    It starts from young...We can’t tell little girls that a boy is picking on them because he “likes” her...We can’t perpetuate that warped notion... #HipHopEd
  • darylhowardphd Feb 19 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Knowledge Dropped. #HipHopEd
    • norarahimian Feb 19 @ 9:33 PM EST
      Hip hop loves narratives where women do unreciprocated emotional labor: "ride or die chicks", "hold your man down", etc. That has to go. #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:39 PM EST
    Terms like "dating" have to be examined with young people to understand what they believe the term entitles them to from their mate, then dissect and redefine. #HipHopEd
  • HRHGloriaSantos Feb 19 @ 9:39 PM EST
    Lovehappy sends the message that "true love" is about withstanding and forgiving abusive behavior. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @KingAdjapong
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:39 PM EST
    #HipHopEd
    • experentiadocet Feb 19 @ 9:37 PM EST
      In a TechGirl weekly series we are facilitating at the YWCA, we will be teaching our 25 high students who identify as female how to create VR & AR apps to educate on how to note the harbingers of teen violence...and ways to heal from it. Educate, then tech-create. #HipHopEd
  • chrisemdin - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:39 PM EST
    Love the way Marc articulates that. Good love, healthy choices & second chances. #WordsToLiveBy #HipHopEd
    In reply to @gjladson, @marclamonthill
  • MsVega218 Feb 19 @ 9:39 PM EST
    I was 15 when this came out...Totally blew my mind... https://t.co/A4KIxRAvQB #HipHopEd
  • gjladson Feb 19 @ 9:40 PM EST
    #HipHopEd One barometer for young ppl is to determine if they like the person they r when they r with certain ppl. #dontLoseUInTheProcess
  • norarahimian Feb 19 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Emotional forms of violence are just as harmful (and sometimes more) than physical forms. We have to teach students to recognize the ways power and control play out in relationships, and to differentiate those things from love, care, and respect. #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:40 PM EST
    #HipHopEd resource #YouthVoice
  • ELAFletch Feb 19 @ 9:40 PM EST
    https://t.co/pmPsUjEzPc This is a song my Ss are listening to this year. Great way to convo about abusive relationships, followed by the abuser shaming the victim into getting back together. I could have used this education early in life! #HipHopEd
  • HRHGloriaSantos Feb 19 @ 9:40 PM EST
    I don't want to be negative, but I want to stay critical. Sometimes what we see as a "healthy/positive" relationship is only so to the man. The woman is burdened with all the emotional work or has to put up and forgive harmful actions by men. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @KingAdjapong
  • djdutchesss Feb 19 @ 9:40 PM EST
    That's the fantasy, right? How do we teach young people to differentiate between (and not replicate) the unhealthy fantasies? #hiphoped
    • norarahimian Feb 19 @ 9:33 PM EST
      Hip hop loves narratives where women do unreciprocated emotional labor: "ride or die chicks", "hold your man down", etc. That has to go. #HipHopEd
  • mnemognose Feb 19 @ 9:41 PM EST
    👀#HipHopEd
    In reply to @norarahimian, @SherronShabazz
  • COsborne_ESL Feb 19 @ 9:41 PM EST
    So many damaging phrases: boys will boys. Real men (insert phrase here). Letting go of our notion of how things have always been can help us re-examine our language that reinforces excuses. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @MsVega218
  • callmemrmorris Feb 19 @ 9:42 PM EST
    If you work in the hood you need to realize that some of these children come with trauma. And the first thing to foster, before we get to the whole relationship stuff, is LOVE #HipHopEd
  • chrisemdin - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Just to be clear, teen dating violence is not a hip-hop thing. It's a society thing that hip-hop allows us to see and talk through #HipHopEd
  • TheRealHipHopEd Feb 19 @ 9:42 PM EST
    We also have to help youth who have been victims and perpetrators of violence understand how to heal #HurtPeopleHurtPeople #HipHopEd
  • gjladson Feb 19 @ 9:42 PM EST
    #HipHopEd Teach our Ss to come to relationships as whole ppl, not believing someone else can make them whole!
  • HRHGloriaSantos Feb 19 @ 9:42 PM EST
    I'd love to hear your wife's input on this discussion. How did she make you see this? #HipHopEd
    In reply to @mnemognose, @tdj6899
  • djdutchesss Feb 19 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Word. #hiphoped
    • chrisemdin - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:42 PM EST
      Just to be clear, teen dating violence is not a hip-hop thing. It's a society thing that hip-hop allows us to see and talk through #HipHopEd
  • MsVega218 Feb 19 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Exactly! #HipHopEd
    • callmemrmorris Feb 19 @ 9:42 PM EST
      If you work in the hood you need to realize that some of these children come with trauma. And the first thing to foster, before we get to the whole relationship stuff, is LOVE #HipHopEd
  • MsVega218 Feb 19 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Exactly!!! 💯 #HipHopEd
    In reply to @COsborne_ESL
  • chrisemdin - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Self love must come before loving others. Otherwise, you look for someone to fix you and you damage them in the process #HipHopEd
    In reply to @callmemrmorris
  • ELAFletch Feb 19 @ 9:44 PM EST
    https://t.co/9OPvD1OZzx Love how J. Cole expresses his love in 4 Your Eyez Only. Maturity, wisdom, love. #HipHopEd
  • callmemrmorris Feb 19 @ 9:44 PM EST
    I had a child come today and tell me she spent the entire weekend "fe-manning" the crib because her moms was out with her new dude. She is 12, 7th grade. Yo, we can get to the math in a minute... #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:45 PM EST
    She told me "That in order to be with her, I had to love her the way she wanted to be loved and not the way I thought she should be loved." One key point is that she knew how she wanted to be loved! #HipHopEd
    In reply to @HRHGloriaSantos, @mnemognose
  • NealPaulSchick Feb 19 @ 9:45 PM EST
    I return back to a great comment @norarahimian made in last week’s chat about teachers showing love through our commitment to nourish the development of our students and youth. Forming these strong connections can assist in breaking cycles of abuse. #HipHopEd
    • chrisemdin - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:34 PM EST
      We must teach young people about breaking cycles of abuse. What am I doing or accepting that I have been exposed to? How am I being deliberate about not replicating it #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:45 PM EST
    #HipHopEd #Facts
    • gjladson Feb 19 @ 9:42 PM EST
      #HipHopEd Teach our Ss to come to relationships as whole ppl, not believing someone else can make them whole!
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:47 PM EST
    #HipHopEd
    • HRHGloriaSantos Feb 19 @ 9:46 PM EST
      This. We also need to teach how to distinguish love from abuse. We don't need to assume that just because someone says he feels love, he will be loving towards the other person/people in their relationship.
      In reply to @tdj6899
  • callmemrmorris Feb 19 @ 9:47 PM EST
    You know what's scary? I grew up in a 2-parent household in the 90s and I thought I WAS THE ABNORMALITY in my community because of that. The twitter limit isn't enough for me to explain the greater implications of that experience #HipHopEd
  • darylhowardphd Feb 19 @ 9:47 PM EST
    We're charged with teaching kids about loving relationships. Not eros love of course, but agape for sure. Every one of our interactions should demonstrate this healthy engagement. #hiphoped
  • bushidogarvey Feb 19 @ 9:48 PM EST
    I think it helps to decode with students the hip-hopsploitative imagery they get bombarded with via “reality” shows and music. To decode is to detox. #HipHopEd
  • HRHGloriaSantos Feb 19 @ 9:48 PM EST
    This is great! And for her to be able to do and say this, she had to grow up in a healthy environment and had access to positive non-romantic relationships. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @tdj6899, @mnemognose
  • TOHHNYC Feb 19 @ 9:49 PM EST
    And empower them to become healers, teachers & leaders #HipHopEd
  • NealPaulSchick Feb 19 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Full stop. Unconditional love. Love that expects nothing in return from our students but that celebrates who they are, and pushes them to grow into their greatness. #HipHopEd
    • callmemrmorris Feb 19 @ 9:42 PM EST
      If you work in the hood you need to realize that some of these children come with trauma. And the first thing to foster, before we get to the whole relationship stuff, is LOVE #HipHopEd
  • ELAFletch Feb 19 @ 9:49 PM EST
    https://t.co/2d4FtLGebv This song has serious nuance. It starts with all the things he loves to do for his wife, but ends with the notion that guys 'from the hood' have to wear a tough guy face, and can't be perceived as soft. The unfortunate state of things. #hiphoped
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Teen dating violence is a learned behavior so this means that it can be unlearned! #HipHopEd
  • MsVega218 Feb 19 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Same here...Not many around me had both parents in the home...I had a wonderful role model of a loving healthy relationship in my parents... #HipHopEd
    In reply to @callmemrmorris
  • TheTishJones Feb 19 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A 🧵 #HipHopEd (this is also dope bc it shows two adults modeling healthy love & communication and sometimes youngsters need models, especially when coming from families that have been systemically torn apart— making models more scarce. Grown folks be learning and searching too)!
    • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:45 PM EST
      She told me "That in order to be with her, I had to love her the way she wanted to be loved and not the way I thought she should be loved." One key point is that she knew how she wanted to be loved! #HipHopEd
      In reply to @HRHGloriaSantos, @mnemognose
  • gjladson Feb 19 @ 9:49 PM EST
    #HipHopEd love does NOT hurt!
  • callmemrmorris Feb 19 @ 9:49 PM EST
    And, in my opinion, that self-love is foundational to identity. Without that, we are fixed in a state of chasing, replacing, and replicating everything else #HipHopEd
    In reply to @chrisemdin
  • DumiRIGHT Feb 19 @ 9:50 PM EST
    What are some of the greatest hip hop love songs? PRT, Dres, LL, Method Man, The Roots? #HipHopEd
    In reply to @djdutchesss
  • COsborne_ESL Feb 19 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Right. And as that isn’t the case for so many of our girls.... and boys, how do we, as educators, fill this void? This is our job, too. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @HRHGloriaSantos, @tdj6899, @mnemognose
  • callmemrmorris Feb 19 @ 9:50 PM EST
    @JColeNC's "Love Yourz" was perhaps not a track about relationships, but one about loving yourself. Which comes before we figure another body into our being #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Yes and no, it was in part the resolve of scars that she decided would not be reopened or added onto by another relationship #HipHopEd
    In reply to @HRHGloriaSantos, @mnemognose
  • KingAdjapong - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Such a complex and dope song #hiphoped
    In reply to @callmemrmorris
  • HRHGloriaSantos Feb 19 @ 9:51 PM EST
    "I believe you can change" has to go and instead provide or demand evidence that the man has indeed changed. Women are not responsible for changing men; they have to change themselves. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @norarahimian
  • NealPaulSchick Feb 19 @ 9:51 PM EST
    As the saying goes: hurt people try to hurt other people; broken people try to break other people. Beginning a pathway to self-love is so critical for our students who feel broken. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @chrisemdin, @callmemrmorris
  • gjladson Feb 19 @ 9:51 PM EST
    #HipHopEd to the parents in the chat...what examples of love r u showing ur kids? #movepasthollywood
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:52 PM EST
    I have former teens who are married now and they tell me that witnessing the relationship between my wife and I was the only example of a healthy marital relationship they had real access to growing up #HipHopEd
    • TheTishJones Feb 19 @ 9:49 PM EST
      A 🧵 #HipHopEd (this is also dope bc it shows two adults modeling healthy love & communication and sometimes youngsters need models, especially when coming from families that have been systemically torn apart— making models more scarce. Grown folks be learning and searching too)!
      • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:45 PM EST
        She told me "That in order to be with her, I had to love her the way she wanted to be loved and not the way I thought she should be loved." One key point is that she knew how she wanted to be loved! #HipHopEd
        In reply to @HRHGloriaSantos, @mnemognose
  • djdutchesss Feb 19 @ 9:52 PM EST
    TBH, I had to take Method Man out of my list ("All I Need) after close-reading the lyrics. It still makes me sad bc I love it, but it also has some problematic notions. #hiphoped
    In reply to @DumiRIGHT
  • callmemrmorris Feb 19 @ 9:53 PM EST
    It's a self-help, self-love manifesto... you low? play that #HipHopEd
    In reply to @KingAdjapong
  • chrisemdin - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:53 PM EST
    Brown Skin Lady. Mos and Talib. Such a magical expression of love https://t.co/qA4yIwjdDf #HipHopEd
    In reply to @DumiRIGHT, @djdutchesss
  • HRHGloriaSantos Feb 19 @ 9:53 PM EST
    How did she become strong and confident enough to demand the relationship and the love she deserved? How can we help teen girls do the same? That's my question. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @tdj6899, @mnemognose
  • callmemrmorris Feb 19 @ 9:54 PM EST
    That is big man! #HipHopEd
    In reply to @tdj6899
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:54 PM EST
    I have a blended family and my daughter asked me when I met her at 5 years old "Was I going to treat her mommy right?" 22 year later she is 27 and my son is 19 and they have what neither my wife or I had growing up #HipHopEd
    In reply to @gjladson
  • djdutchesss Feb 19 @ 9:55 PM EST
    Talib Kweli - Never Been In Love ft. Just Blaze https://t.co/E2dY4Wp6HE #hiphoped
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:55 PM EST
    Especially if you compare it to the song that it was sampled from. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @djdutchesss, @DumiRIGHT
  • anthonylester64 Feb 19 @ 9:56 PM EST
    I feel like in the time we live in today, we need to be teaching how to love everyone, how to spread the love, and how to love one's self #hiphoped #ElonEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:57 PM EST
    It was a combination of having people in her life that loved and supported her and it was her faith and relationship with God and I'd say having a daughter. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @HRHGloriaSantos, @mnemognose
  • callmemrmorris Feb 19 @ 9:57 PM EST
    I thoroughly enjoyed tonight's convo at #HipHopEd. Such a vital topic. Critical to providing our youth with the agency needed to be successful (and I ain't talking money) in society #HipHopEd
  • HRHGloriaSantos Feb 19 @ 9:58 PM EST
    I don't know. These are still men focusing on women's appearance and centering male feelings about women instead of exploring the women's own feelings. We need a less androcentric perspective of love. #HipHopEd needs womanism.
    In reply to @chrisemdin, @DumiRIGHT, @djdutchesss
  • AHarmonyMusic Feb 19 @ 9:58 PM EST
    I honestly can’t think of any love narratives in hip hop that don’t somehow spin a woman’s suffering into some sort of virtue. Really trying to think of an example and am struggling to think of one. #HipHopEd
    • norarahimian Feb 19 @ 9:33 PM EST
      Hip hop loves narratives where women do unreciprocated emotional labor: "ride or die chicks", "hold your man down", etc. That has to go. #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Complexion (A Zulu Love) https://t.co/Chgi5WzIxP via @YouTube #HipHopEd
  • aprilRsilver Feb 19 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Hey, Fam! Hip Hop Ed has a great topic tonight for #Teen Dating Violence Awareness Month. Peep the Twitter Chat via the #HipHopEd hashtag. #Respect to the @TheRealHipHopEd fam. Hey @tdj6899! 👊🏾
  • chrisemdin - Moderator Feb 19 @ 9:59 PM EST
    The Light Common https://t.co/W2UCyOaJT6 #HipHopEd
    In reply to @AHarmonyMusic
  • djdutchesss Feb 19 @ 9:59 PM EST
    https://t.co/QiMPcPXMVV #hiphoped
    In reply to @DumiRIGHT
  • callmemrmorris Feb 19 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Throwing it way back...but a true OG who always spoke in gems. A wisdom to be heard..From Bob Marley #HipHopEd https://t.co/dI1JNTZkvh