#ELLCHAT Archive
#ELLCHAT is a repository for ideas related to teaching English Language Learners.
Monday January 16, 2017
9:00 PM EST
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Jan 16 @ 9:00 PM EST
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#ELLCHAT
by sharing resources and collaborating at
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KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:00 PM EST
It’s TIME!! Good evening
#ELLCHAT
- time to talk about assessments of ELLs/DLLs.
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:02 PM EST
Q1 Please share your name, where you live, and what you teach
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:03 PM EST
A1 I’m Karen Nemeth, author, consultant on DLLs in
#ECE
and co-host of
#ELLCHAT
orgANNEizedKaos
Jan 16 @ 9:04 PM EST
Anne Maryland elementary ESOL (specifically grade 3)
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
beckyshy
Jan 16 @ 9:05 PM EST
A1: Becky in N. Canton, OH, a PD Specialist that has taught
#adultedu
ELLs
#ELLchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:05 PM EST
Hi, Anne! Glad to see you here. We will focus tonight on NOT standardized tests - more on informal assessments for
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @orgANNEizedKaos
HSeslteacher
Jan 16 @ 9:06 PM EST
A1: Shaeley from Central Iowa. K12 ESL instructional coach
#ELLChat
EmilyDESOL383
Jan 16 @ 9:06 PM EST
A1. Emily from Manhattan, KS. District ESOL Cordinator - PreK-12.
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:02 PM EST
Q1 Please share your name, where you live, and what you teach
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:07 PM EST
Teachrs have a lot of questions about how to assess the learning of their diverse students and how to measure progress of ELLs/DLLs
#ELLCHAT
karmun_c
Jan 16 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1 Carmen from Toronto, here to learn!
#ELLChat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:08 PM EST
Q2 Assessmnt is challenge for schools w/ multiple languages. What specific assessmnt challenges have you encountered in your work?
#ELLCHAT
LaurenEHarrison
Jan 16 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1 Hello from MA! Elementary ESL teacher.
#ELLchat
mnm12
Jan 16 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1 Mary from Louisville, KY. ESL Instructional Coach.
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1 Remember to start your tweet with the answer number of the question you’re answering so people can follow along - and use
#ELLCHAT
always
mnm12
Jan 16 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1 Mary in Louisville, KY. ESL Instructional Coach.
In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
HSeslteacher
Jan 16 @ 9:11 PM EST
A2: Going to start with what's happening now- giving standardized tests to students who have only been in school in U.S. for days
#ELLChat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:11 PM EST
A2 I hear from many
#preK
teachers that have too many languages to be able to do assessments for each or to get translations :(
#ELLCHAT
mnm12
Jan 16 @ 9:11 PM EST
A2 A big challenge for us is getting teachers to understand test accommodations and apply them effectively
#ELLCHAT
beckyshy
Jan 16 @ 9:12 PM EST
A2: making sure assessments are culturally relevant or not culturally biased
#ELLchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:12 PM EST
A2 Is this sometimes tied to worries it might not be “fair” if some get accommodations? I’ve heard that form administrators
#ELLCHAT
mnm12
Jan 16 @ 9:11 PM EST
A2 A big challenge for us is getting teachers to understand test accommodations and apply them effectively
#ELLCHAT
FloradTeach
Jan 16 @ 9:13 PM EST
A2 Assessing Ss using the curriculum & modifications being made, marks based on curriculum or modifications? What criteria is used?
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:14 PM EST
A2 Yes - not even culture-free - but culturally connected.
#ELLCHAT
beckyshy
Jan 16 @ 9:12 PM EST
A2: making sure assessments are culturally relevant or not culturally biased
#ELLchat
mnm12
Jan 16 @ 9:14 PM EST
A2 That is one issue. Also, helping Ts know accom are an extension of INSTRUCTION, not just test help.
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
HSeslteacher
Jan 16 @ 9:14 PM EST
A2: Ts also want more current info about ELL performance. Need more quality progress monitoring assessments for ELLs.
#ELLChat
EmilyDESOL383
Jan 16 @ 9:14 PM EST
A2: struggle to assess Ss L1 when 1st enrolling in school
#ellchat
TanELLclassroom
Jan 16 @ 9:15 PM EST
A1.Tan from Laos, MS and HS EAL instruction and co-teaching
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:15 PM EST
A2 I saw video of homeless boy at kindergarten entry assessment being asked ‘how many meals do we eat every day?” No idea. Culture.
#ELLCHAT
mnm12
Jan 16 @ 9:15 PM EST
A2 This is especially true regarding oral language development!
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @HSeslteacher
HSeslteacher
Jan 16 @ 9:16 PM EST
A2:
@EmilyDESOL383
I'd add baseline assessments of math skills & knowledge of content areas.
#ELLChat
In reply to @EmilyDESOL383
beckyshy
Jan 16 @ 9:16 PM EST
Yes! That has a tremendous amount to do with being successful with L2!
#ELLchat
In reply to @EmilyDESOL383
ValentinaESL
Jan 16 @ 9:17 PM EST
Accommodating for
#ELLS
does not give them an advantage. It levels the playing field
#ELLCHAT
#esl
#teach
#diversity
#educhat
MsTaraDye
Jan 16 @ 9:17 PM EST
Hi Tara here 5th grade teacher in Colorado, it's been a while!
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:17 PM EST
A2 Even that is challenge - not just skills - but specific readiness for what’s happening this week!
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @HSeslteacher, @EmilyDESOL383
HSeslteacher
Jan 16 @ 9:18 PM EST
I agree. Our ESL team is working to develop some common assessments. Oral language development is high on their list.
#ellchat
In reply to @mnm12
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:18 PM EST
A2 Of course that SHOULD be right, but it is not an exact science and not easy for all tchrs to be sure HOW to level the field
#ELLCHAT
ValentinaESL
Jan 16 @ 9:17 PM EST
Accommodating for
#ELLS
does not give them an advantage. It levels the playing field
#ELLCHAT
#esl
#teach
#diversity
#educhat
FloradTeach
Jan 16 @ 9:19 PM EST
#ELLCHAT
Agree, but all students can get accommodations as it benefits all!
In reply to @ValentinaESL
mnm12
Jan 16 @ 9:19 PM EST
A2 Some admin pressure Ts to over-accommodate ELLs with due to standardized tests
#ellchat
MsTaraDye
Jan 16 @ 9:19 PM EST
A2 time always but with the WIDA testing this round there have been lots of issues with the tests freezing and out
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:20 PM EST
Q3 What kinds of assessments are used for ELs in your school?
#ELLCHAT
mnm12
Jan 16 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2 Yes! We were overconfident after few issues last year!!
#ellchat
In reply to @MsTaraDye
MsTaraDye
Jan 16 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2 test accommodations they keep changing them
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2 We have to remember and remind colleagues the purpose of assessments - Is it more important to support learning than to be fair?
#ELLCHAT
HSeslteacher
Jan 16 @ 9:21 PM EST
A3: Only assessments specific to ELLs are screener for program qualification & then annual assessment. I'm in
@ELPA21Assess
state
#ELLchat
In reply to @ELPA21Assess
MsTaraDye
Jan 16 @ 9:21 PM EST
that was a real question? I mean great info to know but for an entry assessment 🤦🏽♀️
#ellchat
In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
mrsgill_
Jan 16 @ 9:22 PM EST
IPT Oral, Reading and Writing. However we are seeing students score competent very quickly, before they are actually proficient
#ellchat
FloradTeach
Jan 16 @ 9:22 PM EST
A3 We have provincial assessments for gr3 & 6 where r ELLs can get accommodations, rest of assessments done in class
#ellchat
LaurenEHarrison
Jan 16 @ 9:22 PM EST
Q3 I've been advocating for (and completing myself) assessments of *receptive* knowledge of letter ID, sounds, sight words for Ks
#ELLchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:22 PM EST
yes,
@MsTaraDye
a real question :(
#ELLCHAT
In reply to @MsTaraDye
MsTaraDye
Jan 16 @ 9:21 PM EST
that was a real question? I mean great info to know but for an entry assessment 🤦🏽♀️
#ellchat
In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
mnm12
Jan 16 @ 9:22 PM EST
Q3 District proficiency assmnts of CCSS standards taught, literacy assessments
#ellchat
TanELLclassroom
Jan 16 @ 9:23 PM EST
A3. NWEA's MAP, MACII (out of publication), ISA & now Oxford Online Placement Test for admissions
#ellchat
MsTaraDye
Jan 16 @ 9:23 PM EST
A3 WIDA Is big one and state and district standardized assessment after so many years in our district
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:23 PM EST
a3 Many state funded preKs use Teaching Strategies Gold - then ask ME to help adapt it. I didn’t sell it to them! Need more PD
#ELLCHAT
mrsgill_
Jan 16 @ 9:24 PM EST
A3) IPT Oral, Reading and Writing. However we are seeing students score competent, before they are actually proficient.
#ellchat
beckyshy
Jan 16 @ 9:24 PM EST
A3: at a school that is 99% ELL, an internally developed language assessment & CASAS life skills test
#ELLchat
MsTaraDye
Jan 16 @ 9:24 PM EST
A3 NWEA Reading and Math, CMAS FAST
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:24 PM EST
A3 Bigger question for PreK is what assessments are used in K - because they are pressured to get kids ready, but don’t control it
#ELLCHAT
LaurenEHarrison
Jan 16 @ 9:24 PM EST
...in addition to the expressive assessments done multiple times/year.
#ELLchat
HSeslteacher
Jan 16 @ 9:25 PM EST
A3: All Ss in my district take Iowa Assessments & then district-level reading (F&P Benchmarking or GRADE) & math tests (GMADE)
#ellchat
EmilyDESOL383
Jan 16 @ 9:25 PM EST
A3. Too many. All district tests+ grade level state test + ELPA + most classroom/curricular tests.
#ellchat
HSeslteacher
Jan 16 @ 9:25 PM EST
A3: PK does GOLD assessment in my district.
#ELLChat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:25 PM EST
A3 What about informal assessments? Teacher made tests? Portfolios? Observations?
#ELLCHAT
MsTaraDye
Jan 16 @ 9:25 PM EST
Great point! I think I even more important are the skills, do they need to k ow how to use a mouse, touchscreen?
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:24 PM EST
A3 Bigger question for PreK is what assessments are used in K - because they are pressured to get kids ready, but don’t control it
#ELLCHAT
EmilyDESOL383
Jan 16 @ 9:26 PM EST
A3. Our8th graders will be taking 13 standardized tests between Feb1&May16.
#ellchat
HSeslteacher
Jan 16 @ 9:26 PM EST
Our elementary does FAST testing, too. Forgot to include that one in the long list....
#ellchat
In reply to @MsTaraDye
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:26 PM EST
A3 - it can certainly be appropriate - but not all teachers are as prepared as you are.
#ELLCHAT
MsTaraDye
Jan 16 @ 9:25 PM EST
we use gold in our district but feel it's very appropriate I never had problems using it with my class, easy to adjust
In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
LaurenEHarrison
Jan 16 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3 I <3 Seesaw digital portfolios! So easy to use and share with families and teachers!
@Seesaw
#ELLchat
In reply to @Seesaw
MsTaraDye
Jan 16 @ 9:27 PM EST
Fair point! we had time as a staff to discuss how to use and peer observation time, seeing others in action so helpful!
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:26 PM EST
A3 - it can certainly be appropriate - but not all teachers are as prepared as you are.
#ELLCHAT
MsTaraDye
Jan 16 @ 9:25 PM EST
we use gold in our district but feel it's very appropriate I never had problems using it with my class, easy to adjust
In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
ValentinaESL
Jan 16 @ 9:27 PM EST
though it may seem obvious 2 some, it isn't so obvious to all. We have to get the message out through PD & advocate
#ellchat
In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
TanELLclassroom
Jan 16 @ 9:27 PM EST
Each unit is supposed to have 2-3 formative asmts before giving a formal summative,
@KarenNemethEdM
#ellchat
In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
beckyshy
Jan 16 @ 9:28 PM EST
A3: at the classroom level, i did a LOT of
#PBL
and
#geniushour
, motivation is key in language development #
#ELLchat
#dornyei
mrsgill_
Jan 16 @ 9:28 PM EST
A3) A number of schools in my district are creating online student portfolios this year. Many are using
@Freshgrade
and
@Seesaw
#ellchat
In reply to @FreshGrade, @Seesaw
FloradTeach
Jan 16 @ 9:28 PM EST
A3 Glad to say we don't have all these assessments for r ELLS especially newcomers, they need time, what happened to that?
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:29 PM EST
A3 I wonder how often these new ways of teaching are challenging old ways of assessing.
#ELLCHAT
interesting times!
mrsgill_
Jan 16 @ 9:28 PM EST
A3) A number of schools in my district are creating online student portfolios this year. Many are using
@Freshgrade
and
@Seesaw
#ellchat
In reply to @FreshGrade, @Seesaw
TanELLclassroom
Jan 16 @ 9:29 PM EST
Agreed! It's about explaining the anxiety & confusion asmt w/o accommodations produce in ELs.
#ellchat
@ValentinaESL
@KarenNemethEdM
In reply to @ValentinaESL, @KarenNemethEdM
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3 I wonder how often these new ways of teaching are challenging old ways of assessing.
#ELLCHAT
interesting times!
beckyshy
Jan 16 @ 9:28 PM EST
A3: at the classroom level, i did a LOT of
#PBL
and
#geniushour
, motivation is key in language development #
#ELLchat
#dornyei
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:31 PM EST
Q4 What assessment adaptations are provided by your school to support different languages?
#ELLCHAT
specifically?
beckyshy
Jan 16 @ 9:32 PM EST
absolutely! I feel hopeful by the amount of
#personalizedlearning
content I see on my twitter feed!
#ELLchat
In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
TanELLclassroom
Jan 16 @ 9:32 PM EST
#ellchat
Agreed,
@FloradTeach
! Maybe the State needs to have different definitions of what asmts look like for Ncomers such as portfolios
In reply to @FloradTeach
HSeslteacher
Jan 16 @ 9:32 PM EST
Agree that portfolios provide a much clearer picture of what ELLs can do than standardized tests. Multiple measures!
#ellchat
In reply to @mrsgill_
CNE_Gutierrez
Jan 16 @ 9:32 PM EST
The biggest challenge we face is state testing when children qualify after being in school for 60 days in the previous school year.
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:08 PM EST
Q2 Assessmnt is challenge for schools w/ multiple languages. What specific assessmnt challenges have you encountered in your work?
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:33 PM EST
A3 Multiple measures are really better for every student - but so often given superficial nod
#ELLCHAT
HSeslteacher
Jan 16 @ 9:32 PM EST
Agree that portfolios provide a much clearer picture of what ELLs can do than standardized tests. Multiple measures!
#ellchat
In reply to @mrsgill_
TanELLclassroom
Jan 16 @ 9:33 PM EST
Q4: We co-plan w/ the Cnt Ts to make language more accessible (NOT easier).We add images, diagrams, charts, sentence stems, w banks
#ellchat
HSeslteacher
Jan 16 @ 9:33 PM EST
A4: Std tests: only word to word paper bilingual dictionary. Class tests: online translation tools okay. Sometimes answer in L1
#ellchat
beckyshy
Jan 16 @ 9:34 PM EST
Not just ELLs but all students! Standardized tests only capture a fraction of what our Ss are capable of
#ELLchat
https://t.co/TvKylGmvcF
HSeslteacher
Jan 16 @ 9:32 PM EST
Agree that portfolios provide a much clearer picture of what ELLs can do than standardized tests. Multiple measures!
#ellchat
In reply to @mrsgill_
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:34 PM EST
A4 by Linda Espinosa - Perspectives on Assessments of DLLs Prek - 3rd
https://t.co/kohVDC7f6b
#ELLCHAT
TanELLclassroom
Jan 16 @ 9:34 PM EST
ok, heading to 2nd period now. Adios everyone & GRACIAS
#ellchat
HSeslteacher
Jan 16 @ 9:34 PM EST
Absolutely!
#ellchat
In reply to @beckyshy
FloradTeach
Jan 16 @ 9:34 PM EST
Check out the resources we use in Ontario, Canada
https://t.co/omIlZdjL39
and
@ELLontario
#ellchat
In reply to @ELLontario
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:35 PM EST
Thank YOU! :)
#ELLCHAT
TanELLclassroom
Jan 16 @ 9:34 PM EST
ok, heading to 2nd period now. Adios everyone & GRACIAS
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:36 PM EST
Q4 AND… how do tchrs know what adaptations to make for ELLs? Written policy? Coach/mentor? Regular PD?
#ELLCHAT
EmilyDESOL383
Jan 16 @ 9:36 PM EST
A4: mostly additional time & quiet setting. Translation devices (apps or google translate). Text reference.
#ellchat
beckyshy
Jan 16 @ 9:37 PM EST
A4:
#GED
tests can be taken in L1 but often only Spanish and French
#ELLchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:38 PM EST
A4 I know translation devices are commonly used, but often unreliable. But, would it really hurt us to HELP ELLs understand more?
#ELLCHAT
EmilyDESOL383
Jan 16 @ 9:36 PM EST
A4: mostly additional time & quiet setting. Translation devices (apps or google translate). Text reference.
#ellchat
beckyshy
Jan 16 @ 9:39 PM EST
A4: often no formalized training is in place, accommodations are frequently based on individual T observations
#ELLchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:39 PM EST
A4 If I test student A to help her learn, and test student B to help him learn, does it really matter if I give one more help?
#ELLCHAT
JanMcClellanELL
Jan 16 @ 9:40 PM EST
Jan McClellan Springfield R-12 late to the chat Springfield MO ELL 6-8
#ellchat
MsTaraDye
Jan 16 @ 9:40 PM EST
A4 we often go by what will be allowed on state test but modified classroom assessment, scribe, text to speech, depends on S
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:36 PM EST
Q4 AND… how do tchrs know what adaptations to make for ELLs? Written policy? Coach/mentor? Regular PD?
#ELLCHAT
MsTaraDye
Jan 16 @ 9:41 PM EST
Talk about Equity!
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:39 PM EST
A4 If I test student A to help her learn, and test student B to help him learn, does it really matter if I give one more help?
#ELLCHAT
mrsgill_
Jan 16 @ 9:41 PM EST
A4) Pair up new staff with a teacher mentor, and LOTS of coaching and prod. So much expertise, we need to open our doors and share!
#ellchat
JanMcClellanELL
Jan 16 @ 9:42 PM EST
A2: a in depth adaptive reading and math test for beginning English with limited tech.
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:08 PM EST
Q2 Assessmnt is challenge for schools w/ multiple languages. What specific assessmnt challenges have you encountered in your work?
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:42 PM EST
Q5 What resources, updates or PD have helped you and your school improve assessment practices for ELLs?
#ELLCHAT
HSeslteacher
Jan 16 @ 9:43 PM EST
A4: I'm hopeful online assessments like will provide better accommodations for
#ELLs
. See
@ColorinColorado
https://t.co/F5lSw6PvgT
#ELLChat
In reply to @ColorinColorado
JanMcClellanELL
Jan 16 @ 9:43 PM EST
Right smack dab in the middle of ACCESS testing right now. We also have the state MAP test and our district benchmarks.
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:20 PM EST
Q3 What kinds of assessments are used for ELs in your school?
#ELLCHAT
TanELLclassroom
Jan 16 @ 9:44 PM EST
A4.The #1 suggestion to helping Cnt Tch design EL-friendly asmt is to co-plan w/ them bc it guides them through the thking process
#ellchat
beckyshy
Jan 16 @ 9:45 PM EST
A5: tons and tons of PD on
#formativeassessment
, data driven instruction &
#PBL
#ELLchat
#DDI
JanMcClellanELL
Jan 16 @ 9:45 PM EST
A4: bi lingual dictionaries but I wonder how this helps if they aren't learning the content in their l1.
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:31 PM EST
Q4 What assessment adaptations are provided by your school to support different languages?
#ELLCHAT
specifically?
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:45 PM EST
A5 Assessing Spanish/English Bilingual Preschoolers
https://t.co/eXh5cjNjsD
#ellchat
TwitLiveEvents
Jan 16 @ 9:45 PM EST
January 16, 2017 at 10:00PM Twitter Chat -
#ellchat
#TwitterChat
Visit
https://t.co/52cTeoQ3Zw
for more events.
HSeslteacher
Jan 16 @ 9:45 PM EST
A5:
@ColorinColorado
has great page on
#Assessment
Many links at
https://t.co/whqXhuuQxz
#ellchat
In reply to @ColorinColorado
JanMcClellanELL
Jan 16 @ 9:45 PM EST
A4: we have specific documentation and many times EL ss test with me to allow for limited disruptions.
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:36 PM EST
Q4 AND… how do tchrs know what adaptations to make for ELLs? Written policy? Coach/mentor? Regular PD?
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:45 PM EST
A5 Young DLLs: A Guide for PreK - 3 Leaders
https://t.co/vvaqT8Dm6p
Yes - that’s right a book for
#ADMINISTRATORS
!
#ELLCHAT
EmilyDESOL383
Jan 16 @ 9:46 PM EST
A5. Our district currently uses DIBELS k-3. Discussing Lang transfer issues has helped Ts understand data better
#ellchat
HSeslteacher
Jan 16 @ 9:46 PM EST
A5: Big focus in my district is developing common formative assessments
#CFAs
https://t.co/KQ4qSaIsB4
#ellchat
JanMcClellanELL
Jan 16 @ 9:46 PM EST
A5: WIDA online library has many amazing resources for assessments.
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:42 PM EST
Q5 What resources, updates or PD have helped you and your school improve assessment practices for ELLs?
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:46 PM EST
A5 Dual Language Development and Disorders 2nd edition
https://t.co/pGiQ2M5fTN
#ELLCHAT
mrsgill_
Jan 16 @ 9:48 PM EST
A5) Co-planning w/classroom teacher has not only improved asmt' practices,but allows for appropriate scaffolds to be put into place
#ellchat
beckyshy
Jan 16 @ 9:48 PM EST
A5: PD on vocab instruction can be really helpful too...tons of research based evidence to help implement great vocab instruction
#ELLchat
EmilyDESOL383
Jan 16 @ 9:49 PM EST
Sometimes my concern w computerized assess is testing tech skills vs knowledge
#ellchat
TanELLclassroom
Jan 16 @ 9:49 PM EST
A4. Co-constructing asmts w/ Cnt Ts honors the principle of "Show, don't tell".
#ellchat
@TanELLclassroom
In reply to @TanELLclassroom
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:49 PM EST
A5 Free download - one of the 6 California Research Overview Papers on assessment of young DLLs
https://t.co/ziiGSUHipO
#ELLCHAT
MsTaraDye
Jan 16 @ 9:49 PM EST
I agree when the time is built in it is so beneficial!
#ellchat
mrsgill_
Jan 16 @ 9:48 PM EST
A5) Co-planning w/classroom teacher has not only improved asmt' practices,but allows for appropriate scaffolds to be put into place
#ellchat
beckyshy
Jan 16 @ 9:49 PM EST
we did a T study group on language transfer, culture and impact on writing...enourmously helpful!
#ELLchat
In reply to @EmilyDESOL383
MsTaraDye
Jan 16 @ 9:51 PM EST
How do we prevent this?
#ellchat
EmilyDESOL383
Jan 16 @ 9:49 PM EST
Sometimes my concern w computerized assess is testing tech skills vs knowledge
#ellchat
beckyshy
Jan 16 @ 9:52 PM EST
A5: Great resource on evidence based vocab instruction...for
#adulted
but easily can be adapted to k-12
https://t.co/wuEKtuVXTf
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HSeslteacher
Jan 16 @ 9:53 PM EST
That's a valid point. Let's add it to our assessment concerns under Q1.
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KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:53 PM EST
Q6 What do you think your school, or our field, still needs to do to improve assessments for linguistically diverse populations?
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KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:55 PM EST
A6 I hope you start answering Q6 before I shout out my radical, controversial position ;)
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KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:57 PM EST
A6 Do you think teacher preparation programs need an update regarding approaches to assessments for ELLs/DLLs?
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MsTaraDye
Jan 16 @ 9:57 PM EST
yes!
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In reply to @EmilyDESOL383
beckyshy
Jan 16 @ 9:57 PM EST
A6: more PD for teachers around assessment and language acquisition & providing alternative assessments
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EmilyDESOL383
Jan 16 @ 9:57 PM EST
A6. If ELLs arent proficient in Eng (dont pass ELPA) why are they held to same ac Stnd as native spkr on standardized tests?
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KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Jan 16 @ 9:58 PM EST
A6 Do you think administrators need more PD to understand more deeply the purposes & challenges of our assessments for diverse Ss?
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MsTaraDye
Jan 16 @ 9:58 PM EST
A6 training training, advocate advocate make sure it happens
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EmilyDESOL383
Jan 16 @ 9:58 PM EST
A6. MORE native language assessments. Need is greater than just Spanish.
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HSeslteacher
Jan 16 @ 9:59 PM EST
A6: Start by giving greater value to growth on assessments.
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mrsgill_
Jan 16 @ 9:59 PM EST
A6) I worry about the huge discrepancy b/w the ELL asmt and classroom asmt. We need to consider all the info before reporting.
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