#oklaed Archive

This is the official Twitter account for #OklaEd, thehashtag that brings OK educators together. #OklaEd is not political & promotes constructive dialogue.

Sunday February 3, 2019
9:00 PM EST

  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Welcome! It is chat time! #oklaed
  • jcbjr Feb 3 @ 9:00 PM EST
    #OklaEd Really pitiful!!! Best thought: Football that counts ends tonight!!!
    In reply to @thnorfar, @ShariGateley
  • watersenglish Feb 3 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Michelle Waters, 9-11 English, Wayne High School. @oueducation ILAC-English Ed #gradstudent. Lead Learner at #rethinkela. #oklaed
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Shari Gateley, PC West, 11th/12th ELA #OklaEd
  • scottok16 Feb 3 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Representative House District 16 #oklaed
  • MrsBeck25 - Moderator Feb 3 @ 9:01 PM EST
  • MrsHime Feb 3 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Steph Hime # cpsreds EL/GT/Elem.Curr #oklaed
  • TeacherJenn2013 Feb 3 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Jennifer Newkirk. LMS from Deer Creek Edmond. #OklaEd
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:02 PM EST
  • marcus_mcentire Feb 3 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Rep. McEntire - Glad to be here! #oklaed
  • ChristineTeel Feb 3 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hi, #OklaEd! Christine Wesley sped teacher from Mid-Del! This is how I feel about those words... they are typically used so poorly!
  • TwyllaHester Feb 3 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Twylla Hester, Tuttle HS Principal. Hoping people still don’t do this... #oklaed
  • ClaudiaSwisher Feb 3 @ 9:02 PM EST
    #oklaed -- I'm the resident loudmouth...retired teacher...now gadfly...How does Claudia feel about evaluations? https://t.co/AKxsrCxQvT
  • MrsBeck25 - Moderator Feb 3 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Most boring game EVER 🙄 #oklaed
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:03 PM EST
    A1: My PL focus was standards based grading because I have a new content area this year (AP Lit), so I wanted to make sure I unpacked the standards in the same way I did with AP Lang. #oklaed
  • thnorfar Feb 3 @ 9:03 PM EST
    I’m Ta-lane-na. A math T at @NWCKnightVision in @okcps. Stay tuned for the best meme ever. #OklaED
  • djthoreson Feb 3 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Debbie Thoreson, P of 3rd grade girl, T of English 3 & AP, Dewey High School #oklaed
  • JasonPerez75 Feb 3 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Jason Perez, Chief HR Officer, Mid-Del Public Schools #MDPurpose #oklaed
  • jcbjr Feb 3 @ 9:03 PM EST
    #OklaEd John Bennett, Emeritus Faculty, Midlothian, Virginia.
  • OklahomaTli Feb 3 @ 9:03 PM EST
    ED of TLI, @JoMabeeLein representing. Our org provides a comprehensive human capital strategy focusing on novice teachers. Excited to join tonight for #oklaed chat
  • charis25385897 Feb 3 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Charis Freeman-3rd grade teacher-Norman-#Oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley, @MrsBeck25
  • ChristineTeel Feb 3 @ 9:03 PM EST
    I chose to focus on the closure of my lessons. I needed something to help solidify the learning instead of just sending them on their way! #OklaEd
  • KathySDunn Feb 3 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Kathy Dunn, Mid-Del Assistant Superintendent, #oklaed
  • MrsBeck25 - Moderator Feb 3 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Great to have you! #oklaed
    In reply to @TeacherJenn2013
  • JoshWestOKHD5 Feb 3 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Rep West: HD5, glad to be here. #oklaed
  • MrsBeck25 - Moderator Feb 3 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Great to have you!! #oklaed
    In reply to @charis25385897, @ShariGateley
  • thnorfar Feb 3 @ 9:04 PM EST
    This is what I think of evaluations. #oklaED
  • BradWard42 Feb 3 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Bradley Ward, #highered PhD student. #oklaed advocate. #Oklaed 🍎
  • RepTammyWest Feb 3 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Tammy West Rep. HD 84 #Oklaed
  • JasonPerez75 Feb 3 @ 9:04 PM EST
    A1: Hopefully the PL Focus conversation begins with "what do you want to learn?" #oklaed
  • Jenkins007 Feb 3 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Amanda Jenkins, American Lit, NHS and Senior Sponsor, Del City High School #OklaEd
  • DonleyVicki Feb 3 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Vicki Donley...eighth grade ELA...Clinton, OK #oklaed
  • Mark_P_Lawson Feb 3 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Rep. Mark Lawson, HD30. Happy to be here tonight. #oklaed
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:05 PM EST
  • KimberBlodgett Feb 3 @ 9:05 PM EST
    So I'm Kim, I teach 4th for Norman Public Schools, Best district in the state, world. and I am here bc @ShariGateley is hosting and she's the best. BUT here is my gif that I think of when it comes to Eval, Observe, Accountability. #oklaed
  • MrsHime Feb 3 @ 9:05 PM EST
    A1: It’s not mandatory that I have a PL focus, but I think it is a good idea as a way to learn and grow. I have focused this year, and also last, on learning everything I can about Title III and EL. #oklaed
  • Stv_Gilliland Feb 3 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Steve Gilliland, Asst. Principal @ Del City High School. #oklaed
  • kasnelson Feb 3 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Hi all! Kas, Elem Lead Learner @VPSINDIANS #oklaed
  • eesmith0814 Feb 3 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Hi #oklaed— I’m Elizabeth and I work at @utulsa where I am daily inspired by future teachers. I am an assessment geek, so I am excited about this topic.
  • TeacherJenn2013 Feb 3 @ 9:05 PM EST
    A1: As an LMS, my PL is collaboration with teachers. I chose it because I have struggled with this in the past, and being on a flex schedule this year, I wanted this to be my central focus. #oklaed
  • TwyllaHester Feb 3 @ 9:05 PM EST
    A1) As admin, we encouraged teachers to pick an element they wanted to grow in as they reviewed the model at the beginning of the year. We gave them time to reflect and then I helped them with ideas - videos, books, observations, etc as resources. #oklaed
  • ghsclick Feb 3 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Sally Clickner Garber HS #oklaed
  • MaryBorenSD16 Feb 3 @ 9:05 PM EST
    #oklaed I am a classmate of @ShariGateley at the OU @oueducation completing my M.Ed, and also State Senator @MaryBorenSD16, and this is how I feel about #okleg history with "accountability, et al."
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:06 PM EST
    A2: I think I picked PD. The options are pretty basic & not super helpful. I did, however, have the opportunity to have a full day to collaborate w/AP Lit Ts from my district which has helped tremendously. #oklaed
  • ClaudiaSwisher Feb 3 @ 9:06 PM EST
    I volunteered for the PL Focus working group, because I was so excited about #oklaed expecting Ts to find their own area to learn and grow. Would have kept me in the classroom longer...AND remember, #NBC counts for a #PLF area. Come join us!
  • coach57 Feb 3 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Kevin Hime Superintendent #cpsreds #oklaed
  • djthoreson Feb 3 @ 9:06 PM EST
    A1: My PL Focus is student engagement. Through the National Board process, I've come to recognize that I can teach standards, but I could be more effective if Ss took more ownership of their learning. #oklaed
  • ShawneeSup Feb 3 @ 9:06 PM EST
    April Grace, Shawnee Supt, Sorry to be Tardy... #oklaed
  • watersenglish Feb 3 @ 9:07 PM EST
    My observation, evaluation, and accountability gif, which I use because I received my high marks on the Marzano scale while I was a terrible teacher. #oklaed
  • teachforok Feb 3 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Hi everyone! Emily Jones and I teach 5th grade ELA in Moore. Excited to be here 😁 #oklaed
  • Stv_Gilliland Feb 3 @ 9:07 PM EST
    A1: What do we need to work on to benefit our students? #oklaed
  • ChristineTeel Feb 3 @ 9:07 PM EST
    I’m gonna be real honest- I kinda just put stuff on paper. I have implemented a few things I learned from training past, but working on trial and error. #oklaED not much real conversations or accountability has happened.
  • JasonPerez75 Feb 3 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A2: $$ is always an obstacle. Search for those resources (usually people) in your school, district, or region. So many great, untapped supports at our fingertips. #oklaed
  • ClaudiaSwisher Feb 3 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1 -- I retired 'early' at age 69 because I saw #VAM coming down the pike & knew I could bail. #PLF is a fantastic way to tell Ts that they are trusted with their own learning. #oklaed
  • OklahomaTli Feb 3 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1) So here is the thing on the PL focus... for novice teachers, ALL THE THINGS are the focus. So choosing one seems silly. But we have 5 priority areas on the TLE: 1 Preparation 2 Discipline 6 Student Relations 9 Involves All Learners 14 Adjusts Based on Monitoring #oklaed
  • eesmith0814 Feb 3 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A2. With future Ts during student teaching, we ask them to set growth goals. They brainstorm resources with mentor T and university supervisor and document progress. 🥳 #oklaed
  • KimberBlodgett Feb 3 @ 9:08 PM EST
    damn it I already missed Q1 #oklaed
  • TeacherJenn2013 Feb 3 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Q2: I found out when teachers were meeting so I could join their plan times. I set a goal of a certain jumber of times per month to join them and to check in weekly to see what I could do to support student learning. #oklaed
  • mrsaj4 Feb 3 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Just like everything else for those who care it matters for those who done it is one more hoop to jump through. All about making the best of the situation #oklaed
    In reply to @MrsHime
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:09 PM EST
  • disfordavis Feb 3 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Hi! Amanda Davis, Director of Public Relations at Altus Public Schools and SWOSU Master’s Student. #oklaed
  • thnorfar Feb 3 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1. My focus is students refoecting on their learning. It’s one of those things I know is a game changer but don’t know how to do it well. #oklaED
  • JessRob Feb 3 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Jessica Robinson, Altus, Government/Lit #Oklaed
  • ShawneeSup Feb 3 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1: Conversations with the Ts to set the PLFocus looking over evals, or areas of interest and needed growth. A2: Support to send to workshops, or PD, opportunities for conversations, ongoing development depending on the area. #OklaEd
  • NorthcuttLee Feb 3 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Lee Northcutt, Superintendent Caddo Public Schools #oklaed
  • KimberBlodgett Feb 3 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Okay I missed Q1 and Q2 apparently. dang it. I'm trying #oklaed
  • TwyllaHester Feb 3 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A2) As I talked with Ts about their PLF, I used by own personal library, as well as other resources to help them. I also encouraged them to connect with other Ts that do those things well (in the bldg and elsewhere)...connect, connect, connect. #oklaed
  • MrsHime Feb 3 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A2: Not a principal and have not been asked to help anyone with their PL focus. After setting my goal for learning this year, I read everything I can on the topic, attend OSDE workshops, and any inservice (webinars, etc) #oklaed
  • MrsBeck25 - Moderator Feb 3 @ 9:09 PM EST
    #oklaed
    • charis25385897 Feb 3 @ 9:09 PM EST
      A1) Using technology. Next year, 3rd graders will start taking the CRT. Online. This year, I have my students taking tests online. The problem is I have 5 laptops for 23 students. So, I have to a group at a time.
      In reply to @ShariGateley, @MrsBeck25
  • DrTerriC Feb 3 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Terri Cullen Associate Professor @Oueducation in Cleveland for work, so will jump in and out. #oklaed
  • Jenkins007 Feb 3 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A2. I know what areas I'm weakest in and what I need to work on most. Nobody is perfect. We all must continually improve, so I try to pick an area once a year to work on improving. That's how I pick my action plan. #OklaEd
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A3: I would make it less rigid and use it to promote growth instead of feeling like a process meant to shame. There is a lot that can’t be evaluated in a checklist & it doesn’t always allow for meaningful reflection/feedback. #oklaed
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Don’t forget the #oklaed on the end! That way others can see your tweet too!
    In reply to @charis25385897, @MrsBeck25
  • JessRob Feb 3 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Mine was peer feedback because I didn’t have to be evaluated this year. I also love observing what my colleagues are doing so it was a win/win. #oklaED
  • Stv_Gilliland Feb 3 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A2: Using other teachers, we really are each other’s best resource. #oklaed All in it together.
  • DonleyVicki Feb 3 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A2) My action plan was made by me after my last observation. No resources have been made, yet, but if I need them, anything I need to become more successful will be made available to me. #oklaed
  • teachforok Feb 3 @ 9:10 PM EST
    I’ve been teaching for a total of 27 days. I’m loving reading everyone’s responses since I can’t really answer for myself. #OklaEd
  • JasonPerez75 Feb 3 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A3: Greater emphasis on constructive feedback, less of a focus on a numbered score. #oklaed
  • Coach_Mike_D Feb 3 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Mike Dunn.. Athletic Director, Head Football Coach, THE Del City HS! #oklaed
  • thnorfar Feb 3 @ 9:11 PM EST
    I think I would like evaluations if I got a raise like I did in corporate world. #oklaED
  • ShawneeSup Feb 3 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A3: I think what can be missing w/o leadership is the ongoing conversations in ensuring as Admin we support Ts in the same way we expect them to support Ss in the classroom. Open dialogue is imp. Conversation, ongoing feedback , exploration/risk taking to try new strat.. #OklaEd
  • ClaudiaSwisher Feb 3 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A2 -- one of the issues that concern me is HOW do Ts find the resources they need? I had the luxury of a hubby who made better $$ than I, so I bought all the books I wanted, and paid my way to conferences...but most Ts don't have that much leeway. #oklaed
  • ChristineTeel Feb 3 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Actual coaching. Maybe the principal could do frequent (not overly intense, paperwork driven) drop-ins to check on the evaluation goals, and then the instructional coach could constantly be assisting you? Idk the answer. 🙈 #OklaEd
  • coach57 Feb 3 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Teachers need to know it is about getting better “ you don’t have to be bad to get better “ #oklaed
  • djthoreson Feb 3 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A3: I think we have a pretty good evaluation system, but I would like for it to include more of an official plan to grow in addition to the PL focus. #oklaed
  • KathySDunn Feb 3 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A2: In many of our schools our Instructional Coaches gather data on the teachers' PL focus to determine what kinds of PD should be offered at the site and district level. #oklaed Then our ICs help plan meaningful PD. It's great when it works that way!
  • OklahomaTli Feb 3 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A2) I assert that resources work for many but not all... In fact, according to sound, professional learning research, things must be practiced with strong feedback, and supported by admin. The question - do admin have a strong enough understanding of instruction to do so? #oklaed
  • MrsHime Feb 3 @ 9:12 PM EST
    As a veteran educator I have never thought I know it all, there is always an area that one can get better, you don’t have to be bad to get better #oklaed
    In reply to @OklahomaTli
  • thestephhinton Feb 3 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Steph, Early Childhood Coordinator for #OKCPS and #PassingNotes podcaster. Watching the Super Bowl and trying to participate via phone tonight #oklaed
  • ClaudiaSwisher Feb 3 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Absolutely...PLFocus should be about strengthening your skill-set. #oklaed
    In reply to @coach57
  • disfordavis Feb 3 @ 9:12 PM EST
    #OklaED A-1 I am not evaluated on the TLE, but my Professional Focus was communication with Public. Happy to say that all of our schools have a social media presence this year, we have great working relationship with the local newspaper, news station, radio stations, &chamber
  • TwyllaHester Feb 3 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A3) The hardest part of the process comes because Ts have an innate desire to make As. If you give a score below highly effective it can be met with frustration if it doesn't come with solid evidence and conversation. The relationship between T and A is key. #oklaed
  • djthoreson Feb 3 @ 9:12 PM EST
    If you're ever feeling nostalgic and would like to pay someone's way to a conference, I'm your gal! ;-) #oklaed
    In reply to @ClaudiaSwisher
  • Jenkins007 Feb 3 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A3. To be completely unbiased, I think there should be an outside entity that would come in and be in charge of evaluations. That way people can't complain about school politics being involved. #OklaEd
    • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:10 PM EST
      A3: I would make it less rigid and use it to promote growth instead of feeling like a process meant to shame. There is a lot that can’t be evaluated in a checklist & it doesn’t always allow for meaningful reflection/feedback. #oklaed
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:13 PM EST
  • watersenglish Feb 3 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1 One PL focus this year was to improve my teaching of grammar because that is an area in which my current & former Ss have said they need more help. And my admin wants Ss to score better on the English section of the ACT. #oklaed
  • thnorfar Feb 3 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Our admins did this as well. They also suggested to use any elements we were being evaluated on for ideas if we didn’t have a focus in mine #oklaed
    In reply to @TwyllaHester
  • eesmith0814 Feb 3 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A3. It seems that admins are incentivized to give 3s due to the work required if scoring above and below. This greatly harms the validity of the scores, potentially making them meaningless. #oklaed
  • charis25385897 Feb 3 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A2) I use our online reading curriculum. I have started with a simple multiple choice quiz. Ultimately, I want my students to take the weekly assessment. I have ran into hiccups, but me and the class are working them out together.#oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley, @MrsBeck25
  • sulphurmiddle Feb 3 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Steven Pyle skidding in late on two wheels #OklaEd
  • TeacherJenn2013 Feb 3 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Q3: I would change the fact that I am evaluated under the same standards as classroom Ts. As an LMS there should be a different expectation. #oklaed
  • KimberBlodgett Feb 3 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Oh man you're wanting me to remember my goals? lol No really my goals were to collaborate with peers and to provide students with a snapshot of new material. I started this as a pre and post. It has gone well. #oklaed
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A4: This is starting to become a bigger focus in our school (they have created a schedule), but think it should be a day 1 thing and it shouldn’t always be accompanied w/a device to score. #oklaed
  • MrsHime Feb 3 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A3: I always looked at the evaluation process as a way too improve, everyone can improve in some area. IMO it’s the way you look at an evaluation that is uplifting or can tear you down. #oklaed
  • ghsclick Feb 3 @ 9:14 PM EST
    I have focused on learning Google and Office 365 in order to pass it on to my computer students. #OklaEd
  • teachforok Feb 3 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Q4: my administrator is in my class almost every day. He’s awesome at being involved within the school. I love when he comes in because the kiddos love to show him what we are learning. #OklaEd
  • watersenglish Feb 3 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A2 I have researched best practices for teaching grammar and prepping for the ACT, which is basically editing. I found other Ts who are working on the same goals, and am working with one to develop a solution for our Ss -- and other Ts, as well. #OklaEd
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:15 PM EST
    #oklaed
    • JennieScott41 Feb 3 @ 9:14 PM EST
      My PL focus is developing vocabulary as a way to boost literacy. I chose it because it's the best path to understanding novels as well as test questions.
      In reply to @ShariGateley
  • KristinAtchley Feb 3 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Thank your school counselor this week! Celebrate the great things they do!! It’s National School Counselor week!! 🖤💛🧡 #oklaED
  • thestephhinton Feb 3 @ 9:15 PM EST
    I am/was really excited about the PL focus... Ts should have buy in w/ their growth focus! As an admin I provide support to Ts who reach out to me on their PL focus... sometimes it’s an article or a PD opportunity #oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley
  • OklahomaTli Feb 3 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A3) I assert that evaluation is used inappropriately because ongoing coaching is not 1) made a priority, or 2) understood, or 3) practiced... so evaluation is our method of instructional leadership. And evaluation is limited in its ability to improve instruction #oklaed #coaching
  • JasonPerez75 Feb 3 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A4: I highly encourage evaluators to try and set their evaluation schedule at the beginning of the year Space out formal evals, mix in veteran evals with newbies. This can make the eval cycle less overwhelming and allow more time for walkthroughs. #oklaed
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Don’t forget #Oklaed on the end of your tweets so everyone can see your response!
    In reply to @JennieScott41
  • thnorfar Feb 3 @ 9:15 PM EST
    So true!! I’m starting to see the fruit of processes I have implemented. It’s warming my heart seeing the impact on students. #oklaed
    In reply to @djthoreson
  • joy4ok Feb 3 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Hi, #oklaED — So we’re really doing this? #SuperBowl2019 🏈😀👍🏼 Catching up.... Ready to jump into tonight’s chat on evaluation, observations and accountability, Joy Hofmeister, State Supt.
  • djthoreson Feb 3 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A4: This is an interesting question. I invite my administrators in whenever Ss are doing presentations, so they're in my room a few times a semester. For observations, though, not as often as I'd like. I'm not intimidated, I want feedback! #oklaed
  • ChristineTeel Feb 3 @ 9:16 PM EST
    I think the total number of visits is 3. The total minutes in my room may be approaching 5. #OklaEd
  • DonleyVicki Feb 3 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A4) My principal visits one of my classes informally at least twice a week. My superintendent has come to my classroom at least twice a year. When I teach summer school, my supt even visited my classroom. #oklaed
  • Lauren_Rodg Feb 3 @ 9:16 PM EST
    First grade teacher and robotics coach from Owasso! #oklaED
  • sulphurmiddle Feb 3 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A1. I sent out several professional articles/studies as well as tecomended peer observations. I went over each indicator in detail on the TLE to make sure Ts understood them so they could make a decision on the focus. #OklaEd
  • Coach_Mike_D Feb 3 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A1: Integration of more technology. There are so many programs out there that help teach kids the game of football.. Kids learn better in a digital world. We have to get out of our comfort zone of dry erase markers and a white board! #oklaed
  • Stv_Gilliland Feb 3 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A3: I think it’s all in the approach. It’s not a gotcha moment, communicate and set expectations and try to be better today than you were yesterday. #oklaed
  • tiffany_peltier Feb 3 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A4: Also, one of the stellar admins I worked under had teachers do brief walkthroughs each quarter on 3 other teachers to get ideas and collaborate! #oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley
  • thnorfar Feb 3 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A2: we have a tool called iobservation by Marazano. It really has good resources as well as great customization. #oklaED
  • thestephhinton Feb 3 @ 9:17 PM EST
    In my position, I’m all about the resources. I connect my Ts to NAEYC and other research based practices for early childhood. I also observe Ts, non-eval & provide feedback #oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley
  • MrsHime Feb 3 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Most school districts have many supports in place, they just need to be utilized effectively #oklaed
    In reply to @OklahomaTli
  • eesmith0814 Feb 3 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A4. Let me just say, if schools were adequately funded, they could hire the admin staff needed to evaluate and support Ts. In my previous state, with new evals requiring lots of admin time came an AP whose job was evaluating. #oklaed
  • TwyllaHester Feb 3 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A4) I get in as often as I can, but it is difficult. Honestly...when the process first began 7 or 8 years ago we went in often. It has backed down to the minimum required. The more observations the better the feedback in my opinion. I'd like to be in more than I do now. #oklaed
  • KimberBlodgett Feb 3 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Q4: My admin has been in my classroom once this year for a scheduled observation. #oklaed (note: this is not me being for or against that, I just answered the ?)
  • Lauren_Rodg Feb 3 @ 9:17 PM EST
    First grade teacher from Owasso! Working on lesson plans, watching the super bowl, and ready to chat! #oklaED
  • ClaudiaSwisher Feb 3 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Aaand, there's the rub...administrators already have so many mandated duties...We all need some relief if we're going to do this right. Improvement takes the investment of TIME and effort. Cannot be done between other jobs. #oklaed
  • Stv_Gilliland Feb 3 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A4: I try for one visit a day, but some days my day manages me instead of vice versa. #oklaed
  • dena_rogers Feb 3 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A4 - as admin, I struggle to get into classrooms at the scheduled time. We have had classroom discipline struggles. Being in the classroom more would help. It’s a vicious cycle. #oklaed
  • ChristineTeel Feb 3 @ 9:18 PM EST
    I must say though, I’m probably little potatoes comparatively. 🤷🏻‍♀️ #OklaED
  • TeacherJenn2013 Feb 3 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Q4: I check in regularly but only see my A once in a while. #oklaed
  • Jenkins007 Feb 3 @ 9:18 PM EST
  • OklahomaTli Feb 3 @ 9:18 PM EST
    This! "You don't have to be bad to get better" is on the next t-shirt... #oklaed
    • MrsHime Feb 3 @ 9:12 PM EST
      As a veteran educator I have never thought I know it all, there is always an area that one can get better, you don’t have to be bad to get better #oklaed
      In reply to @OklahomaTli
  • disfordavis Feb 3 @ 9:19 PM EST
    #OklaED A-2 my greatest resource is @OKSPRA. If you are admin and not familiar with this organization check it out!
  • ClaudiaSwisher Feb 3 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Some days totally ambush administrators and they must attend to the crisis (crises) in front of them. #oklaed
    In reply to @Stv_Gilliland
  • JennieScott41 Feb 3 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A3) I developed my action plan using prof dev that I completed last year. I loved the sessions and resources but forgot to apply some that I loved. This is a way to revisit the ideas I loved.#oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley
  • charis25385897 Feb 3 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A3) not a Marzano fan. It’s too much. Don’t mind being evaluated but, I get overwhelmed with all of the steps. #oklaed
    In reply to @coach57
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:20 PM EST
  • djthoreson Feb 3 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Okay, so my school doesn't have Instructional coaches or anything like that, but can they help with observations? Or could a team of Ts or retired teachers be trained to observe and report? #oklaed
    • ClaudiaSwisher Feb 3 @ 9:17 PM EST
      Aaand, there's the rub...administrators already have so many mandated duties...We all need some relief if we're going to do this right. Improvement takes the investment of TIME and effort. Cannot be done between other jobs. #oklaed
  • ShawneeSup Feb 3 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A4: When I do get to visit, which this sem. is on cal. , bc things kept creeping in & we are short an Admin. I like to leave personal notes, take pics with kids, ask about learning. I like to let the T know I appreciate the work they are doing.Weekly when possible. #OklaEd
  • thnorfar Feb 3 @ 9:20 PM EST
    I really wish our evaluation system gets to a point where it really grows a teacher like National Board. Right now if only works that way when a T wants to grow. I like evaluations but that’s because I make it work for me. #oklaED
  • sulphurmiddle Feb 3 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A-3. The evaluation is fine. All of them have been fine. It is the administrator’s duty to find a way to keep teachers improving themselves and addressing weak areas. An effective admin could/should do this even without an evaluation. #oklaed
  • thestephhinton Feb 3 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Yes. I struggle with the evaluation process. I believe it should be used to grow educators, sometimes it’s used very punitively. We’re in a T shortage, I don’t think we can afford to use it this way... the PL focus gives me hope #oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley
  • MrsHime Feb 3 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A4: My main focus when in classrooms this year has been shadowing students (EL in particular) which leads to observing classroom practices, are they effect? Are they following district expectations? Is equity happening in our classrooms, on our campuses, in our district? #oklaed
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A5: Honestly, I haven’t received a lot of useful feedback from an observation in all of my years of teaching (again, the checklist isn’t always conducive). I do, however, constantly reflect on my own practices. Going through #NBCT process has helped this TREMENDOUSLY! #oklaed
  • ChristineTeel Feb 3 @ 9:21 PM EST
    It depends on the feedback - I can’t do anything with a note that says, “good job :)” #OklaED
  • OklahomaTli Feb 3 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A4) Instructional coaching research says focus on smaller skills with more frequent touch points rather than trying to overwhelm teachers with big changes with little support or accountability in between convos. The TLI model is weekly practice-based coaching #oklaed
  • dena_rogers Feb 3 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A3- not sure how to make it better, but I have seen too many teacher evals on the McRel model, where admin give 3 for everything w/o much input. PDP’s for 2 and below can be tedious, but should be done when needed. Of course we should give 4’s and 5’s for those we can #oklaed
  • djthoreson Feb 3 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A5: My observer is pretty good at providing decent feedback, and we always have a great conversation afterwards. With the PL Focus last year (as part of the pilot program), my biggest complaint was that there isn't really anything to say to what degree it was successful. #oklaed
  • castro_nbct Feb 3 @ 9:22 PM EST
    #oklaed
    • OklahomaTli Feb 3 @ 9:08 PM EST
      A1) So here is the thing on the PL focus... for novice teachers, ALL THE THINGS are the focus. So choosing one seems silly. But we have 5 priority areas on the TLE: 1 Preparation 2 Discipline 6 Student Relations 9 Involves All Learners 14 Adjusts Based on Monitoring #oklaed
  • ClaudiaSwisher Feb 3 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A5 -- honestly? The only thing I remember being useful was a P telling me I 'played' to one side of the room when I talked. She was right. And 35 years later I still remember to adjust. 1st P came in, looked at my bulletin boards & left. #oklaed
  • teachforok Feb 3 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A5: I had my very first observation last week. It was all positive. I am reflecting on things that don’t go as planned in a journal for personal use. #oklaed
  • TwyllaHester Feb 3 @ 9:22 PM EST
    My first year on the new system I went in on average 13 times into each classroom as other admin did in my bldg also. It was well above others in the district so we backed off. Now it's celebrated again to get in that much. Crazy how the pendulum swings. #oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley
  • watersenglish Feb 3 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A5 I had an A a few years ago who was really good at this process. He spent the whole hour in my class, then spent time talking with me afterwards about areas I saw I needed to improve and areas that he saw. I felt like he really cared about my professional growth. #oklaed
  • DonleyVicki Feb 3 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A5) I don’t mind classroom observations at all. #oklaed
  • OklahomaTli Feb 3 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Here is our template to help plan coaching conversations - https://t.co/HzGPVygjlX #oklaed
  • eesmith0814 Feb 3 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A5 (and just a random thought) I love hearing Ts describe how fruitful the NBCT process is! How could we adjust what we do now to evaluate and make it more like that? #oklaed
  • JennieScott41 Feb 3 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A3) I am blessed with admin that supports so the process never feels negative. When I can ask for help on a specific thing and get it in a nonjudgemental manner, it feels like being on a winning team. #oklaed
  • JasonPerez75 Feb 3 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A5: Teachers should never be afraid to ask questions, seek clarification, or offer feedback during to the post-conf. Receive an eval with little or no feedback? Ask for an updated eval. Not getting a post-conference meeting? Request one. It's your eval, make it count! #oklaed
  • Jenkins007 Feb 3 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A5. Feedback is tough either way. Criticism is always tough to hear and digest and with only praise how will we get better? #OklaEd
  • tiffany_peltier Feb 3 @ 9:24 PM EST
    I love that ya'll are so willing to share TLI created resources with the #oklaed community!
    In reply to @OklahomaTli
  • thnorfar Feb 3 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A4: I haven’t had any but that is because I’m not required to be evaluated this year. They have a lot to evaluate. I have had a lot of peers. We are doing WICOR walks as a faculty. I love observations by colleagues. #oklaed
  • MrsHime Feb 3 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A5: Take the evaluation, make a plan to learn and grow from it turn it into a positive #oklaed
  • ghsclick Feb 3 @ 9:24 PM EST
    My principal has been in my room unscheduled several times this year--we have been together for 20+ years. #oklaed
  • TeacherJenn2013 Feb 3 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A5: I look back at what went well and what flopped. I’m a “go big or go home” kind of girl. #oklaed
  • dena_rogers Feb 3 @ 9:24 PM EST
    I recently had an obs that I really needed to score a 2, which means a PDP, so we had a verbal about that part and I told her what I’d be looking for and I’ll be going back in. Alt cert needs help #oklaed
    • thestephhinton Feb 3 @ 9:20 PM EST
      Yes. I struggle with the evaluation process. I believe it should be used to grow educators, sometimes it’s used very punitively. We’re in a T shortage, I don’t think we can afford to use it this way... the PL focus gives me hope #oklaed
      In reply to @ShariGateley
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:25 PM EST
  • JasonPerez75 Feb 3 @ 9:25 PM EST
    You should be the judge of how successful your PL Focus is. Don't need a score. #oklaed
    • djthoreson Feb 3 @ 9:21 PM EST
      A5: My observer is pretty good at providing decent feedback, and we always have a great conversation afterwards. With the PL Focus last year (as part of the pilot program), my biggest complaint was that there isn't really anything to say to what degree it was successful. #oklaed
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A6- We have tried to implement Pineapple Charts, but it hasn’t been very successful. Would love to hear ways people are doing this successfully! #oklaed
  • ClaudiaSwisher Feb 3 @ 9:26 PM EST
    NB is totally self-driven. Voluntary. We humble ourselves before the standards and work to understand how our teaching can reflect them...I think the PLFocus comes close...I'm intrigued by your question...want to talk more? #oklaed
    In reply to @eesmith0814, @watersenglish
  • KathySDunn Feb 3 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A3: #oklaed Often we respond better to "improvement suggestions" when they are outside of the evaluation process. It goes back to relationships! Can we have an open, honest conversation with an evaluator whom I trust to genuinely care about my professional growth?
    • sulphurmiddle Feb 3 @ 9:20 PM EST
      A-3. The evaluation is fine. All of them have been fine. It is the administrator’s duty to find a way to keep teachers improving themselves and addressing weak areas. An effective admin could/should do this even without an evaluation. #oklaed
  • joy4ok Feb 3 @ 9:26 PM EST
    For those joining tonight’s #oklaed chat unfamiliar with Teacher & Leader Effectiveness (TLE) or PL Focus- here’s how it works: It's All About You https://t.co/vSARh0kSbu via @YouTube
  • ShawneeSup Feb 3 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A5: Hopefully, part of this process for reflection is done in some conversation/coaching with admin or other Ts at some point..Ts do want to grow. Reflection may be making adjustments after reviewing data, adjusting lessons, PLC convos are beneficial for reflection. #oklaed
  • KimberBlodgett Feb 3 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A6: We can request to observe a T in our building anytime and it is made possible. Whatever a T needs is made possible if able. I love my building and my family (coworkers, admin). #oklaed
  • thnorfar Feb 3 @ 9:26 PM EST
    This is the challenge for so many. When I was in the corporate world, managers rarely oversaw more than 10 people. Imagine what you could do if you only had 10 Ts to help. #oklaed
    In reply to @Stv_Gilliland
  • Stv_Gilliland Feb 3 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A5: If you really want to grow, own your own growth & go get after it. #oklaed
  • JasonPerez75 Feb 3 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A6: A peer observation program we outstanding and so beneficial....as long as I isn't used in a punitive manner. #oklaed
  • teachforok Feb 3 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A6: we do not have a peer observation program in place. My teammate does hop over to my room a lot and gives me wonderful advice. Not sure how I feel about a formal peer observation though. #oklaed
  • ClaudiaSwisher Feb 3 @ 9:27 PM EST
    @djthoreson YES YES YES!! We know if we've learned. WHat we've learned. Often we don't necessarily learn what we intended to learn. #oklaed
    In reply to @JasonPerez75, @djthoreson
  • thestephhinton Feb 3 @ 9:27 PM EST
    My goal is 3 hours a week. I try to provide positive feedback and resources to support learning in the classroom #oklaed
    In reply to @dena_rogers, @ShariGateley
  • KimberBlodgett Feb 3 @ 9:27 PM EST
    We need to remember that Admin not always being present in your classroom shows a level of trust that is there. I don't take it as admin doesn't care, I take it as admin trusts that I'm doing what I need to do. #oklaed
  • thnorfar Feb 3 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Wow. Total time if 5 minutes. You don’t see anything in 5 minutes. #OklaED
    In reply to @ChristineTeel
  • ShawneeSup Feb 3 @ 9:27 PM EST
    If a T wants to grow and admin or instructional coaches have time to spend with Ts for those important conversations and feedback. Evals are feedback for growth and that should be the lens.#oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley
  • ChristineTeel Feb 3 @ 9:27 PM EST
    I SO WISH that my building had a program like this in place! My principal last year was really big into this, and it was so helpful! I have thought about asking to do this, but I don’t think they’d go for it. #oklaED
  • OklahomaTli Feb 3 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A5) Classroom observations should provide professional growth. And it is looking like we may be able to count coaching as part of university coursework... soon... standby for exciting updates from TLI! #oklaed
  • TwyllaHester Feb 3 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A6) We don't have a set Peer Observation schedule or routine set. However, if I see a T struggling with a skill I refer them to another T to observe or talk with. I also tell Ts when they do something well specifically and encourage them to share with others. #oklaed
  • JasonPerez75 Feb 3 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Perhaps if it was a program that did not include administrator involvement? #oklaed
    • teachforok Feb 3 @ 9:26 PM EST
      A6: we do not have a peer observation program in place. My teammate does hop over to my room a lot and gives me wonderful advice. Not sure how I feel about a formal peer observation though. #oklaed
  • djthoreson Feb 3 @ 9:28 PM EST
    True. I'm not looking for a score, I'm looking for a conversation! #oklaed
    • JasonPerez75 Feb 3 @ 9:25 PM EST
      You should be the judge of how successful your PL Focus is. Don't need a score. #oklaed
      • djthoreson Feb 3 @ 9:21 PM EST
        A5: My observer is pretty good at providing decent feedback, and we always have a great conversation afterwards. With the PL Focus last year (as part of the pilot program), my biggest complaint was that there isn't really anything to say to what degree it was successful. #oklaed
  • ChristineTeel Feb 3 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Agreed. That’s why I take any comments with a grain of salt. #oklaed
    In reply to @thnorfar
  • ClaudiaSwisher Feb 3 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A6 -- Admin at NNHS had us all pair up to observe each other. So valuable! I got to see my Ss in another class, with some behavior the same &other behavior different. We wrote notes describing what we saw. They were treasures. Not all Ts took it seriously. #oklaed
  • thnorfar Feb 3 @ 9:29 PM EST
    So true. I always say if I have arrived then it’s time to box me up. #oklaed
    In reply to @MrsHime, @OklahomaTli
  • BradWard42 Feb 3 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A5: Learn and adapt to seek constructive criticism to improve. You can’t professionally grow if you have an emotional reaction to every feedback. #oklaed 🍎
  • dena_rogers Feb 3 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Pineapple charts? #oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley
  • Stv_Gilliland Feb 3 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A6: We do instructional rounds. Everyone has room to grow. #oklaed
  • thestephhinton Feb 3 @ 9:29 PM EST
    I don’t do evaluations, I only give feedback. I’m always thankful for that! I love connecting Ts to resources and helping them improve their instruction #oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley
  • OklahomaTli Feb 3 @ 9:29 PM EST
    It would depend on how often those 5 minutes occur. If that is happening a lot and the leader has a strong instruction eye, small micro-action items can be pulled out, taught, and practiced. #oklaed
    In reply to @thnorfar, @ChristineTeel
  • JasonPerez75 Feb 3 @ 9:29 PM EST
    I could help you....don't hesitate to hit me up! #oklaed
    • ChristineTeel Feb 3 @ 9:27 PM EST
      I SO WISH that my building had a program like this in place! My principal last year was really big into this, and it was so helpful! I have thought about asking to do this, but I don’t think they’d go for it. #oklaED
  • Jenkins007 Feb 3 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A6. My peer evaluation is actually due tomorrow. We are encouraged to visit other teachers classrooms to see what they are doing. Then we meet in our grade level PLCs to discuss. This also gives us time to get to talk to others on the other side of the building. #OklaEd
  • TeacherJenn2013 Feb 3 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A6: we attempt to do peer observation each year but it gets more difficult each year with demands. It becomes a box to be checked on not an effective tool. #oklaed
  • ClaudiaSwisher Feb 3 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Analysis & reflection...why did you do that? How did it work? How do you know? How successful were you reaching your goals? How do you know? Now, what will you do differently? Most conversations with As or other Ts don't go there. #oklaed
    In reply to @eesmith0814, @watersenglish
  • djthoreson Feb 3 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A6: I did the whole #observeme thing last year. Two teachers came in and watched, then provided feedback. I meant to do it again this year. My, how time flies! #oklaed
  • TwyllaHester Feb 3 @ 9:31 PM EST
    I legitimately was about to post the exact article to share. :) Great minds... #oklaed https://t.co/XhaWaUm7mH
    In reply to @ShariGateley, @dena_rogers
  • DonleyVicki Feb 3 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A6)Clinton Public Schools has a peer observation program in place.Teachers can participate or not.A note is put beside the classroom as to what the T wants observed.I welcome it; I don’t think it’s used by many Ts. There’s not enough time. #oklaed
  • mrsmcreading Feb 3 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A6) We have a shared google calendar called “Welcome Mat.” Teachers volunteer to open their classrooms to other teachers on days they feel peer observation would be beneficial. #oklaed
  • thestephhinton Feb 3 @ 9:31 PM EST
    I LOVE helping plan T observations! Connecting Ts to others doing amazing work in the classroom is powerful. I need to find opportunities for expert Ts to provide feedback to new Ts #oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley
  • KathySDunn Feb 3 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A6: We reserve some Title I money for substitutes to allow our teachers to spend time observing another teacher in action. Often that teacher is in the same building, but some, especially singletons need to go outside of the district to see a master teacher in their area. #oklaed
  • MrsHime Feb 3 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A6: My last few years as a classroom T we were able to request to observe someone in action, as a Technology Interventionist I created a Pineapple Chart for teachers to sign up to observe teachers #oklaed
  • ShawneeSup Feb 3 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A6: I absolutely think peer obs & authentic feedback from peers is essential to growth. Given the number of folks w less exp. this is a fantastic growth tool. As admin, we need to encourage it, find ways to support w time & opportunity. Japanese Lesson Study uses this - #oklaed
    • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:26 PM EST
      A6- We have tried to implement Pineapple Charts, but it hasn’t been very successful. Would love to hear ways people are doing this successfully! #oklaed
  • charis25385897 Feb 3 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Agreed. #oklaed
    In reply to @KimberBlodgett
  • eesmith0814 Feb 3 @ 9:32 PM EST
    This is where I get excited about the new assessment future Ts have to complete prior to grad. It’s so far from perfect, but they do have to answer lots of reflective questions like this! #oklaed
    In reply to @ClaudiaSwisher, @watersenglish
  • OklahomaTli Feb 3 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Coaches are not only underutilized - they are under-trained, under-accountable, and under-funded. This is why coaching programs fail. The reason they started is to take the load off of admin but this is not happening... #oklaed
    In reply to @MrsHime, @tiffany_peltier
  • ClaudiaSwisher Feb 3 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A6 -- we did a #NBCT training at Herronville Elementary in OKC. Several of the classrooms had invitations for visitors to come in and observe whenever they want. I loved that idea...Open invitations. That takes courage and a willingness to learn. #oklaed
  • JennieScott41 Feb 3 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A4) In the beginning of the year, we have informal walkthroughs at least once a week. It tapered off as the year progressed. #oklaed
  • JasonPerez75 Feb 3 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Not all the time. #oklaed
    • OklahomaTli Feb 3 @ 9:32 PM EST
      Coaches are not only underutilized - they are under-trained, under-accountable, and under-funded. This is why coaching programs fail. The reason they started is to take the load off of admin but this is not happening... #oklaed
      In reply to @MrsHime, @tiffany_peltier
  • thnorfar Feb 3 @ 9:34 PM EST
    We only focus on 3 to 5 of them. You can’t do them all. I’ve discovered it’s nice to have a lot elements so you can pick and choose. #oklaed
    In reply to @charis25385897, @coach57
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:35 PM EST
  • TwyllaHester Feb 3 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A6b) If it becomes a checkbox then we miss the point of peer observations. They are a great tool for specific interventions just like we want our Ts to do for our Ss with peer tutoring. #oklaed
  • OklahomaTli Feb 3 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A6) Peer observation is one of the best things ever! Given that I am with new teachers, it is one of the ways that they build context for what is possible. However, new teachers struggle to identify the specific moves without a coach to help them (it's magic, not skill) #oklaed
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A7: When I observe other Ts, it always makes me ask “why” about my own teaching practices regardless of if I see something I think is good or bad. I would love to see some actual reflection techniques from people though! #oklaed
  • JennieScott41 Feb 3 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A4) I am my worst critic so constructive feedback helps. When we conference, I usually ask for suggestions if I'm struggling. #oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley
  • sockies1 Feb 3 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A5 Actually spend time with the teacher about what they saw... maybe care? I don't think I had many evaluate me who actually gave me things to improve and how to improve. #oklaed
  • thnorfar Feb 3 @ 9:36 PM EST
    I’m lucky to have an administrator who is really good at writing observation statements rather than evaluative. We evaluate them together which helps me think about how I want to improve. #oklaed
  • ShawneeSup Feb 3 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A6b: Japanese LS, has the goal of 100% mastery, that is accomplished by peer obs, authentic feedback, adjustments, etc. The classroom the lab for improvement & desire to support colleagues for growth & Mastery of content for Ss.. #oklaed
  • eesmith0814 Feb 3 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A7. When I get feedback from peer observations, I triangulate! How does what this person said compare with the feedback I get from students? My personal feelings about how the class went? Etc... #oklaed
  • thestephhinton Feb 3 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Whenever I set up a an observation, I follow w/ Ts about what they learned and how that might change their current practice #oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley
  • ClaudiaSwisher Feb 3 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A7 -- I think I take peer observation feedback more seriously...it's a friend describing what she saw...and when I give feedback, I try to share an insight, something I learned from my friends. #oklaed
  • DonleyVicki Feb 3 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A7) I reflect by learning to make any comments made mine by making them an asset. #oklaed
  • ClaudiaSwisher Feb 3 @ 9:37 PM EST
    #oklaed, doesn't sound like we're missing anything!
  • KimberBlodgett Feb 3 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A5: my admin always does a Pre Obv meeting, the Observation, and a Post Obv meeting. I learn a lot in the Post meeting. She offers feedback and ideas that I take to heart. #oklaed
  • ChristineTeel Feb 3 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Last year, my coworkers and I bounced a lot of ideas off of each other - academic and management wise. The discourse helped me learn why they did certain things the way they did and how I could change an ineffective strategy. #OklaEd
  • ShawneeSup Feb 3 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Extremely important component for instructional leadership or coaching. Feedback that is intended for growth not merely evaluative in nature! #boom #OklaEd
    In reply to @thnorfar
  • MrsHime Feb 3 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A6B: On another note, admin needs to make sure what is going on in a classroom before they allow other Ts to observe, it could be something the district doesn’t support #oklaed
  • Stv_Gilliland Feb 3 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A7: I think it’s key to remember that it’s not personal. Teaching is hard and even the great ones more than likely weren’t great in the beginning. Know your strengths & love the kiddos and never stop learning. #oklaed
  • ClaudiaSwisher Feb 3 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Exactly...we become more reflective about giving feedback in these circumstances. #oklaed
    In reply to @DonleyVicki
  • thnorfar Feb 3 @ 9:39 PM EST
    I think this is a suggestion for all of our #oklaleg on this chat. @joy4ok probably has heard this need many times. #oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley, @joy4ok
  • djthoreson Feb 3 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A7: With my #observeme form, I had three questions and all were fill in the blank. Then I tracked down the two who actually did it to get more detailed information! #oklaed
  • MrsHime Feb 3 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A7: Debriefing, discussion, reflecting then meet to discuss #oklaed
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:40 PM EST
  • tiffany_peltier Feb 3 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A7: You've got to be willing to ask the hard questions. Otherwise, most peers will just provide the praises. I've learned that asking questions about the weaknesses help you to grow as a teacher. #OklaEd
    In reply to @ShariGateley
  • ShawneeSup Feb 3 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A7: When Ts interact this way, usually we see a lot of sharing of best practice, what has worked for each other. You build in support and care which enhances the culture & climate. Ts feel they are in it together! No Islands! #OklaEd
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A8: We have periodic surveys that come from district office or our association. #oklaed
  • TwyllaHester Feb 3 @ 9:41 PM EST
    I don't use Marzano anymore, but it did have guiding ?s for consideration if you wanted to move to the next level. Looking at the specific wording in each element rating is helpful. The Tulsa Model gives specifics in each rating making it easier to see the growth. #oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley
  • ClaudiaSwisher Feb 3 @ 9:41 PM EST
    Or ask them to observe one or two details for you...Focus THEIR observation and feedback to something you think you need. #oklaed
    In reply to @tiffany_peltier, @ShariGateley
  • djthoreson Feb 3 @ 9:42 PM EST
    My observer provided better feedback after our first conversation about an observation. When I asked for more specific feedback, he started watching for more to give. If most Ts won't listen, I can see why they don't look for specifics. #oklaed
  • KathySDunn Feb 3 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Del City HS teachers are among the best for sharing great ideas and lifting their teacher colleagues! #oklaed
    • Jenkins007 Feb 3 @ 9:30 PM EST
      A6. My peer evaluation is actually due tomorrow. We are encouraged to visit other teachers classrooms to see what they are doing. Then we meet in our grade level PLCs to discuss. This also gives us time to get to talk to others on the other side of the building. #OklaEd
  • KimberBlodgett Feb 3 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A7: Every time I observe a peer I ask myself why am I not doing that? It's not a mark against me, it just goes to show how often we should be learning from each other. We all have different ideas, even across diff grade levels. #oklaed
  • TwyllaHester Feb 3 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A8) I created a mid-year climate survey for anonymous feedback from Ss, Ts, and Ps. But I also tell people that I'm not perfect and welcome feedback regularly as I own my mistakes. #oklaed
  • thnorfar Feb 3 @ 9:42 PM EST
    She said the three visits added up to 5 minutes not they were there for 5 minutes. I don’t know if you can see anything in less than 5. #oklaed
    In reply to @OklahomaTli, @ChristineTeel
  • djthoreson Feb 3 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A8: At the end of last year, my principal sent out a Google form for feedback. I think he took some comments to heart, at least. #oklaed
  • MrsHime Feb 3 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A8: I use feedback surveys after a PD, or visit to a PLC. This allows me to reflect on comments, use it for growth and address anything that needs to be addressed #oklaed
  • dena_rogers Feb 3 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A8 - My district just put out a survey for the elementary staff at every school, just before Christmas Break. I am sure we will get our results during our evals in the spring. #oklaed
    • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:41 PM EST
      A8: We have periodic surveys that come from district office or our association. #oklaed
  • OklahomaTli Feb 3 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A8) I would like to highlight asking for feedback as an important leadership practice. Period. To build a culture of feedback, leaders must model. Check out the work of Radical Candor... (I have shared this before) #oklaed
  • TwyllaHester Feb 3 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Tulsa has 20 elements to rate. Many of the individual items in Marzano are combined into overall areas in Tulsa. #oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley
  • DonleyVicki Feb 3 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A8) One time about fifteen years ago, a principal asked for feedback but never did it again. I’ve had three principals since then, but none of them has asked for feedback. #oklaed
    • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:41 PM EST
      A8: We have periodic surveys that come from district office or our association. #oklaed
  • ChristineTeel Feb 3 @ 9:44 PM EST
    I’ve been at three schools, three different districts. I’ve never been asked. 🤷🏻‍♀️ #OklaED
  • ClaudiaSwisher Feb 3 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A8 -- never. Not even my father who was my 7th and 8th grade principal. I could have told him a lot! LOL...Never. #oklaed
    • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:41 PM EST
      A8: We have periodic surveys that come from district office or our association. #oklaed
  • KathySDunn Feb 3 @ 9:45 PM EST
    #oklaed Can a tweetdeck "break"? Where is @MrTrent13 when I need Tech Support?
  • JasonPerez75 Feb 3 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Agreeing with me is a great philosophy! #oklaed
    • RRHMiller1 Feb 3 @ 9:39 PM EST
      I agree w/ Dr. Perez. It’s all about rich, meaningful feedback focused on professional growth and ultimately student success.
      In reply to @JasonPerez75
  • thestephhinton Feb 3 @ 9:45 PM EST
    We don’t do this often enough! I was just thinking about this today. #oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley
  • ClaudiaSwisher Feb 3 @ 9:45 PM EST
    3 states, 7 schools, 10 head principals, probably 5 or so assist...and I was never asked either. #oklaed
    In reply to @ChristineTeel
  • DonleyVicki Feb 3 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Hi, Steph! I’ve enjoyed your sneers this evening. I’m trying to pay attention and watch the ballgame! #oklaed
    In reply to @MrsHime
  • KimberBlodgett Feb 3 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A8: My admin has never asked for feedback on her job performance. #oklaed
  • mrsmcreading Feb 3 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A8) I have certain students in each class who I know can read the room better than me and are brutally honest with me if I ask. Our principals often do the same. They’ll go to those teachers when they need a pulse on how things are going. #oklaed
  • ShawneeSup Feb 3 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A8: We do Admin surveys twice a year for feedback. We use it for reflection, alignment of feel v real, assess how Ts are feeling. It is used for growth & reflection, goal setting sometimes. It is part of assessing how well some things are going from the Ts perspective. #oklaed
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:47 PM EST
  • CoreyJPeltier Feb 3 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A4: I'm interested in hearing about teachers' opinions about planned, versus unplanned observations. #oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley
  • TwyllaHester Feb 3 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A8b) I used the feedback to guide any necessary changes that could happen now. Put on thick skin b/c the few neg are always louder than the majority pos. It gave me a base but they've also never been asked so it was helpful. It'll guide decisions. I'll do another later. #oklaed
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A9: Begin by building relationships w/staff. Ask hard questions, develop vision/mission together. Get people involved! The more involvement, the more commitment! #oklaed
  • Stv_Gilliland Feb 3 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A8: Great question! #oklaed I’ve done it some, but not regularly. If the relationship is there, it would be much easier just have a conversation and be real with each other. #oklaed
  • TwyllaHester Feb 3 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Very interesting to see the differences in viewpoints. #oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley
  • thnorfar Feb 3 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Sorry. This super bowl game is crazy. Three of my guests are on their phone or playing with kids #oklaED
  • dena_rogers Feb 3 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A9 - Be AUTHENTIC and honest. Also, using google forms to get feedback can be a great tool At one school I where I was admin, there were reasons from prior admin that teachers were very hesitant and did’t trust. Allowing them to give opinions w/google let them be honest #oklaed
  • KimberBlodgett Feb 3 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A9: anonymous surveys work well because I'm not sure if it isn't anonymous there wouldn't be consequences, or at least negativity. For teachers' sake it should be anonymous. There is always a level of disdain there. #oklaed
  • MrsHime Feb 3 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A9: Of course building relationships, letting all stockholders know you are available at every opportunity #oklaed
  • eesmith0814 Feb 3 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A9. Create a vision collaboratively. Determine how everyone will be evaluated in a way that’s directly aligned to vision. Make on-going, formative feedback an expected part of the culture where you work. Summative eval results shouldn’t be a surprise. #OklaEd
  • Stv_Gilliland Feb 3 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A8 (part 2): Just ask the students what they think, they’ll tell you. #oklaed
  • thnorfar Feb 3 @ 9:51 PM EST
    I think if it is going on your record, it should be planned in order for a teacher to ensure desired goals are seen. However, unplanned should occur as well just as feedback to help a T. #oklaed
    In reply to @CoreyJPeltier, @ShariGateley
  • thestephhinton Feb 3 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Build relationships! Ts only allow me in their classrooms when they feel safe that my feedback will improve their instructional practices and not be punitive #oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley
  • TwyllaHester Feb 3 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A9) Be authentic and honest. Share your own growth through mistakes and/or weaknesses. Have conversations. Redirect back to the vision regularly. Own it and share it. #oklaed
  • dena_rogers Feb 3 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Even when I plan, more often than not I have to move the evaluation, because of some student (or adult) behavior that has to be addressed. #oklaed
    In reply to @CoreyJPeltier, @ShariGateley
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:53 PM EST
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A10 - I think we have to always be in classrooms(Ts & Admin). How can we value feedback if it isn’t normal? Also, this helps build a culture of collective responsibility. We are ALL in this together. These are OUR Ss, so how can WE help each other so we serve them better. #oklaed
  • Stv_Gilliland Feb 3 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A9: Valuing everyone’s input, yes that includes students. Anonymous surveys if needed, but solid relationships are priceless. #oklaed #justask
  • OklahomaTli Feb 3 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A9) Actually, I think the first question is - do we have a strong instructional vision, theory of change, and understanding of the specific mechanisms for continuous school improvement? Then, we can create the culture. Vision comes first. #oklaed
  • MrsHime Feb 3 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A10: Make sure your mind is positive, and be determined to learn and grow from it #oklaed
  • ShawneeSup Feb 3 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A9: 360 degree feedback is extremely helpful. T Advisories, Student Adv., surveys and feedback from parents, etc. Also examine the data, stay true to the process - strategic plan. Support, support, listen, reflect, adjust if needed. Openness - willing to have the convo. #oklaed
  • MrsHime Feb 3 @ 9:55 PM EST
    Great chat tonight @ShariGateley have a wonderful week #oklaed
  • TwyllaHester Feb 3 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A10) If everyone would have a backbone and build relationships that would be awesome. We need to be professional and be able to say what needs to be said. We also need to accept the feedback for growth more readily. We aren't perfect. It's okay to show weakness and learn. #oklaed
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:55 PM EST
    This also means that Admin/Ts have to stop being inundated w/paperwork and crazy mandates. #justsaying #oklaed
    • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:54 PM EST
      A10 - I think we have to always be in classrooms(Ts & Admin). How can we value feedback if it isn’t normal? Also, this helps build a culture of collective responsibility. We are ALL in this together. These are OUR Ss, so how can WE help each other so we serve them better. #oklaed
  • dena_rogers Feb 3 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A10 - remember that the tool is there to assist in teacher growth. We need to use it as such. At times, it does become punitive and we need to use it to do what’s best for kids. But it must be used with fidelity and be used fairly. #oklaed
  • Stv_Gilliland Feb 3 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A10: Communicate to make sure everyone is pulling on the rope in the same direction. #oklaed
  • KathySDunn Feb 3 @ 9:56 PM EST
    @OklahomaTli #oklaed I'd love to share and connect you to our Teaching & Learning Team to hear the ups and downs we have experienced in developing effective instructional rounds.
  • OklahomaTli Feb 3 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A10) Focus more on coaching and less on evaluation (unless a person needs to be 'liberated' from their position). Leverage district resources as @MrsHime discussed earlier. Hold leaders accountable as teachers are - at every level. Be open - at every level. #oklaed
  • thnorfar Feb 3 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A9: School wide observations have done amazing work in my building. It also helps that we are competing for food. I won the first week. #oklaED
  • ClaudiaSwisher Feb 3 @ 9:57 PM EST
    @ShariGateley , you wrangled us well tonight...a topic that must be addressed with honesty. #oklaed
  • thestephhinton Feb 3 @ 9:57 PM EST
    I’m all about being honest and transparent... I want Ts to feel confident and have the best resources at their disposal. For me it’s all about growing Ts #oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Thank you all for joining #OklaEd chat tonight! Evaluations are not always a fun thing to talk about, but I appreciate the honesty! Let’s keep working together to be better and do better for our Ss!
  • ChristineTeel Feb 3 @ 9:58 PM EST
    My instructional coach last year had me record myself and build goals from that. Her job was to help me build a plan to reach the goal. It wasn’t a one and done deal. Once that goal was accomplished, we went on to the next. #OklaEd growth should be viewed as continuous.
  • ShariGateley Feb 3 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Hmmm - are you following the #oklaed hashtag? They should be popping up? You could also go to my twitter feed and try that??
    In reply to @charis25385897
  • ShawneeSup Feb 3 @ 9:59 PM EST
    A10: See evaluation as a growth tool & do it with fidelity & authenticity. Not just a checklist item for compliance. Ss are the ultimate benefactor of T and admin growth. Never lose sight of the impact we all have on student success and growth. Be in it together. #oklaed #kids1st