#RuralEdChat Archive
#RuralEdChat is a chat that focuses on the needs of the rural educator. This chat has been revised by Tammy Neil (@MathNeil), John Martin (@edventures) and Natalee Stotz (@nataleestotz).
Tuesday October 31, 2017
8:30 PM EDT
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Oct 31 @ 8:30 PM EDT
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Good Evening,
#RuralEdChat
Are you still on sugar overload?
LauraForbes75
Oct 31 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Never ate a bite😂. Ready to tweet
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Here's wishing all our friends in the Northeast a warmer day tomorrow and for electricity to return quickly.
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 8:34 PM EDT
So glad you are here, Laura.
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In reply to @LauraForbes75
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 8:34 PM EDT
That sounds perfect.
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BenBo370
Oct 31 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Enjoying a warming cup of tea, post Trick or Treat...
In reply to @TG_Neil
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 8:35 PM EDT
As we get started tonight we will be using the Q1/A1 format. Also, remember to use
#RuralEdChat
so we can all share your brilliant ideas.
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Don't hesitate to ask questions. We all began at the same place. We just started at different times.
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In reply to @LauraForbes75
try_rebooting
Oct 31 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Good evening all! Ill be chiming in a little between tending to some truly frightening trick-or-treaters!
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FoleyKev
Oct 31 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Happy Halloween to all from Ireland where it's past midnight
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Glad to have your divided attention. I hope they are having fun.
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In reply to @try_rebooting
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Hey, Kevin! So glad to see you survived Halloween.
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In reply to @FoleyKev
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Our first question will be here before the parents can claim all the good candy.
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BenBo370
Oct 31 @ 8:38 PM EDT
I keep forgetting
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!
In reply to @TG_Neil
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 8:39 PM EDT
** Q1 ** What are the different types of teacher certifications available in your area?
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LauraForbes75
Oct 31 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Are all of you already certified teachers?
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BenBo370
Oct 31 @ 8:40 PM EDT
A1. Meaning what? Endors3ments/subjec5 areas or teach8ng vs. admin, say?
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try_rebooting
Oct 31 @ 8:41 PM EDT
I'm not - I'm not even a "real" teacher! I'm a tech worked who volunteers with a rural school, along for the ride with the pros
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In reply to @LauraForbes75
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 8:41 PM EDT
That's okay. It happens to all of us from time to time.
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In reply to @BenBo370
FoleyKev
Oct 31 @ 8:41 PM EDT
Let's teach from the heart and not from the book or to the test.Leads to lifelong learning
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Some are, some aren't yet. I am.
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In reply to @LauraForbes75
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A1: We have a standard certification and we also have an alternative certification for those coming from industry.
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ChrisAFRIN
Oct 31 @ 8:43 PM EDT
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and past midnight here in England to - luckily I didn't bump in to this scarecrow on
#Halloween2017
......
In reply to @TG_Neil, @FoleyKev
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 8:44 PM EDT
That's one scary scarecrow.
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In reply to @ChrisAFRIN, @FoleyKev
BenBo370
Oct 31 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A1: Ah, you seem to mean std vs alt... VT and NH both have traditional (college) and various alt paths. I thought this common.
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AssignmentHelpN
Oct 31 @ 8:45 PM EDT
The SAMR Model: Effective Technology Integration in Classrooms
https://t.co/N8NF3byMeG
#NJed
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#techcoachbookclub
LauraForbes75
Oct 31 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A1 my answer would be an alternative licensure I guess. My major in college wasn't education.
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ChrisAFRIN
Oct 31 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Indeed - here it is on a sunny
#Autumn
day.......
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In reply to @TG_Neil, @FoleyKev
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Question two will be here before the chocolate will melt in your hand.
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 8:48 PM EDT
** Q2 ** What are the requirements for these certifications?
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ChrisAFRIN
Oct 31 @ 8:49 PM EDT
Hi Laura I am here in England having achieved a
#PGCE
in Post Compulsory Education - been teaching for 27+ years
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In reply to @LauraForbes75
BenBo370
Oct 31 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Nor was mine. I did Alt IV cert through
@UVEIconnect
(NH).
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In reply to @LauraForbes75, @UVEIconnect
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 8:51 PM EDT
A2: Regular Certification here in FL requires a Bachelors' Degree in your area.
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BenBo370
Oct 31 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Similar here, but programs vary. College involvement not necessary. Praxis central, though. Massachusetts has its own test.
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LauraForbes75
Oct 31 @ 8:49 PM EDT
TN requires passing the Praxis per subject area and a college willing to work with you on gaining licensure.
In reply to @TG_Neil
LauraForbes75
Oct 31 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Of course the closest college is an hour and 15 min away
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ChrisAFRIN
Oct 31 @ 8:53 PM EDT
Although you currently don't need a qualification to teach in Post Compulsory Education you can complete this whilst working
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In reply to @LauraForbes75
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Question 3 will be here before the regret of candy hording sets in.
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 8:54 PM EDT
** Q3 ** Once initial certification is gained, what are the requirements for additional certifications?
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FoleyKev
Oct 31 @ 8:55 PM EDT
A6.We need to think and teach bound the textbook.lets teach pupils to think and ask why
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#tnedchat
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Side Question: What has been the best costume you've seen this Halloween?
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LauraForbes75
Oct 31 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Do you mean like an Eds or Doctorate program? Or per subject area?
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EduGladiators
Oct 31 @ 8:56 PM EDT
🔑SATURDAY
#EduGladiators
is back w/NEW series & Core Warrior
@BrendanFetters
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#TNEDCHAT
# SCICHAT
#NJED
#kaganchat
#K12PRchat
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Adding subject areas.
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In reply to @LauraForbes75
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 8:57 PM EDT
That sounds adorable.
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LauraForbes75
Oct 31 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A friend of mine recently had twins and had an older daughter, cat in hat with thing 1 & 2
In reply to @TG_Neil
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A3: Here, once Prof. Cert. is obtained, we only have to pass subject area test to add to our certification.
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ChrisAFRIN
Oct 31 @ 8:58 PM EDT
In England to teach in secondary schools you must have a subject area degree then do a PGCE
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In reply to @TG_Neil, @LauraForbes75
Leximus28
Oct 31 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Joining in late! From WA!
#HappyHallowen
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mrterborg
Oct 31 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Bachelors, Praxis, Eventually masters. Additional certs by Praxis also 15 credits in subject matter.
#mdeschat
#bmoreedchat
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In reply to @TG_Neil
LauraForbes75
Oct 31 @ 8:59 PM EDT
If you a license, passing the Praxis in a subject area is all I know of
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mrterborg
Oct 31 @ 8:59 PM EDT
The invisible trick or treater
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In reply to @TG_Neil
try_rebooting
Oct 31 @ 9:00 PM EDT
A2/A3: side answer: WA state offers an alternative cert. For professionals in CTE field, so if i were to hop ship, that's mine
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Leximus28
Oct 31 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Q3 have to have a BA in Education and in 5 years have to get Procert to keep degree. Is changing to 100 clock hours
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mrterborg
Oct 31 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Right. My state allows one to also get this through additional coursework.
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In reply to @LauraForbes75
ChrisAFRIN
Oct 31 @ 9:00 PM EDT
For Primary Education there are specific teaching degree programmes.
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In reply to @TG_Neil, @LauraForbes75
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 9:01 PM EDT
I love THOSE. They don't get much candy. Means more left for me.
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mrterborg
Oct 31 @ 8:59 PM EDT
The invisible trick or treater
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In reply to @TG_Neil
mrterborg
Oct 31 @ 9:01 PM EDT
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100 clock hours of what?
In reply to @Leximus28
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 9:02 PM EDT
We've never had a Trick or Treater here either. 24 years and counting. Pros and Cons of Rural Life.
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In reply to @mrterborg
mrterborg
Oct 31 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Yeah. I'm in an urban area though. 24K people in my city, millions in the metro area...
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In reply to @TG_Neil
mrterborg
Oct 31 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Yes, I pull out the big candy bars too.
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In reply to @TG_Neil
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Question four will be here before the next knock on the door.
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 9:04 PM EDT
** Q4 ** What supports are in place for those with ALT Certs as they enter the classroom for the first time?
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 9:04 PM EDT
I would be at your door multiple times. LOL
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In reply to @mrterborg
BenBo370
Oct 31 @ 9:04 PM EDT
A3: NH & VT: depends on existing degrees/background... maybe peeer review, maybe new coursework...
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mrterborg
Oct 31 @ 9:05 PM EDT
I wouldn't care .. :)
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I've also given out pre-packaged apple sauce for kids who don't eat chocolate.
In reply to @TG_Neil
BenBo370
Oct 31 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A4: supports, in the classroom? Oka6, serioys answer: varies WIDELY by district IME.
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Rural_Schools
Oct 31 @ 9:06 PM EDT
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A4 We think this is an important and often murky issue!
mrterborg
Oct 31 @ 9:06 PM EDT
The same support as those walking in with traditional certs?
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In reply to @TG_Neil
LauraForbes75
Oct 31 @ 9:07 PM EDT
College instructors come to observe and dept heads mentor you as well
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mrterborg
Oct 31 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Yes, i was avoiding the question ..
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(Mike, MD, EL LMS - Urban Educator
In reply to @TG_Neil
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Even with Trad. Cert. I had very little classroom experience when I started teaching.
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 9:08 PM EDT
I was assigned a Mentor but she basically completed paperwork to document observations. Did little to truly support growth.
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mrterborg
Oct 31 @ 9:08 PM EDT
I think we need to do a much better job of supporting our newest teachers communication, leadership, modeling, more.
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In reply to @TG_Neil
LauraForbes75
Oct 31 @ 9:09 PM EDT
As and alt license student I won't have any classroom experience from day one if I get a job prior to the end of program
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BenBo370
Oct 31 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Too often true. Why I loved UVEI: full year practicum, two schools, four days per week on site!
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In reply to @TG_Neil
SJ_Grubb
Oct 31 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Mentoring, coaching, supports--and not giving the newbie a wicked schedule or a class of Ss as "trial by fire"...
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BenBo370
Oct 31 @ 9:11 PM EDT
👏👏 EVERY teacher in every context, in every district!
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In reply to @mrterborg, @TG_Neil
BenBo370
Oct 31 @ 9:11 PM EDT
SO wrong!
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In reply to @LauraForbes75
mrterborg
Oct 31 @ 9:11 PM EDT
As a library media specialist, I didn't either. Granted I did start in education 20+ years ago but none is required for us.
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In reply to @LauraForbes75
mrterborg
Oct 31 @ 9:12 PM EDT
This is one of the fastest ways to get teachers to leave the profession
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In reply to @SJ_Grubb
SJ_Grubb
Oct 31 @ 9:12 PM EDT
We do horrible things to new teachers because "that's what happened to me."
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Question number five will be here before I can learn the hand jive.
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mrterborg
Oct 31 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Why continue the hazing?
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In reply to @SJ_Grubb
FoleyKev
Oct 31 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Our newly qualified Teachers are on a lower pay scale in Ireland.Unfair treatment to our NQTs
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mrterborg
Oct 31 @ 9:14 PM EDT
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Note: That was start in ed. I never completed my undergraduate teaching experience. I changed professions.
In reply to @LauraForbes75
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 9:14 PM EDT
** Q5 ** You are asked to design a New Teacher Program for your school. What does it look like?
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SJ_Grubb
Oct 31 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Exactly! We should want better for our Ss and their Ts!
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@mrterborg
mrterborg
Oct 31 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Why continue the hazing?
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In reply to @SJ_Grubb
LauraForbes75
Oct 31 @ 9:17 PM EDT
After school tutoring for new teachers would be helpful. Just designing lesson plans is difficult.
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BenBo370
Oct 31 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Hm. Here too: the salary grid. But corporate is generally like that, too, IME, just not so structured.
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In reply to @FoleyKev
SJ_Grubb
Oct 31 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@TG_Neil
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Reduced schedule, prep with mentor teacher(s), acknowledgment of Entry Year graph (w/just in time support), cog. coach
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 9:14 PM EDT
** Q5 ** You are asked to design a New Teacher Program for your school. What does it look like?
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sterlace
Oct 31 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Would you have time for that?
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In reply to @LauraForbes75
BenBo370
Oct 31 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A5: How much time do you have?!
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A5: I'd love to see time for more CONVERSATIONS between New and Veteran educators.
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mrterborg
Oct 31 @ 9:20 PM EDT
After school mentoring, partial day schedules to allow for observing/shadowing other teachers and leaders, additional training
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In reply to @LauraForbes75
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 9:20 PM EDT
We have all night if necessary. We can also continue conversation in the future as well.
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In reply to @BenBo370
BenBo370
Oct 31 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Don’t know. I’ve only worked rural. But I’ve heard similar from folks who’ve worked urban, from mentor trainers with urban exp!
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In reply to @LauraForbes75
mrterborg
Oct 31 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Collaboration time w/ librarian, tech person, and other specialists too.
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In reply to @SJ_Grubb, @TG_Neil
mrterborg
Oct 31 @ 9:21 PM EDT
All night, tomorrow, the next day, the day after ....
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In reply to @TG_Neil, @BenBo370
BenBo370
Oct 31 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Well, I was sorta sna4king, like “I can’t explain that on Twitter!” But I think we’ve hinted at much already...
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In reply to @TG_Neil
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 9:23 PM EDT
As we talk about supporting new teachers, us Veterans must take action to make sure we are truly supporting our new neighbors.
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 9:25 PM EDT
As we wrap up
#RuralEdChat
tonight, I encourage each of you to support your fellow educators. Don't forget to connect with someone new.
mrterborg
Oct 31 @ 9:25 PM EDT
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Don't presume the grass is greener on the other side.
In reply to @BenBo370, @LauraForbes75
mrterborg
Oct 31 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Some of us have to buy our own paper, we don't have enough desks, chairs ....
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In reply to @BenBo370, @LauraForbes75
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 9:25 PM EDT
I agree. We will be talking about that in a future
#RuralEdChat
if I can ever get my ducks in a row.
In reply to @mrterborg, @BenBo370, @LauraForbes75
mrterborg
Oct 31 @ 9:26 PM EDT
I've worked in one of the top 25 largest school districts (urban, suburban, rural mix) in the nation. We're tight on $ too.
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In reply to @BenBo370, @LauraForbes75
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Oct 31 @ 9:26 PM EDT
If you are a new teacher, or about to be, we are here to support you. Connect with us each Tuesday at 8:30 pm.
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SJ_Grubb
Oct 31 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@TG_Neil
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Thanks for ping us together tonight! ✨
mrterborg
Oct 31 @ 9:27 PM EDT
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In reply to @TG_Neil, @BenBo370, @LauraForbes75
SJ_Grubb
Oct 31 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@TG_Neil
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Thanks again for all you do!
LauraForbes75
Oct 31 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Yes thank you. I will be back!!!
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