#ATchat Archive | Participate

KarenJan - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:00 PM EDT

Welcome to #atchat! Tonight we will discuss Microcredentials and competencies w/ our guest moderator @bwwojci. Should be a great discussion!

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mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:01 PM EDT

Hey Now #ATchat AT Specialist from NJ & co-mod w/ @KarenJan Looking forward to the discussion We are in good hands w/ @bwwojci

KarenJan - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:01 PM EDT

Please introduce yourself and tell us where you are from. #ATchat

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:01 PM EDT

Who is all here this evening? Please take a moment to introduce yourselves #atchat

KarenJan - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:01 PM EDT

I won't be able to join much of #atchat as I'm at the airport about to board a plane for #cue17. Should be a great time w @mmatp & @bwwojci!

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EGraniero Mar 15 @ 8:01 PM EDT

Emily Graniero from CT. Recently started working as a substitute papraprofessional in a local school district #atchat

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:01 PM EDT

Hi @egraniero - Welcome! #atchat

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JoanneSabo Mar 15 @ 8:02 PM EDT

Joanne Sabo - Special Ed T. Central MA #atchat

SLP_Echo Mar 15 @ 8:02 PM EDT

#atchat here in AK!

mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:02 PM EDT

We will miss you tonight! Enjoy the conf - we will have to follow the #cue17 hashtag over the next couple days #ATchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:02 PM EDT

I am from Kearney, NE - 1733 miles between Fresno and Boston...exactly...well via US 30....excited to be here! #atchat

mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:03 PM EDT

We will use the Q1, A1 format today. Don’t forget to include #atchat hashtag

rtopp Mar 15 @ 8:03 PM EDT

Rebecca Topp - Nebraska, Special Education Teacher #ATchat

MaegeK Mar 15 @ 8:03 PM EDT

Maegan Kiger - SLP from CT- #ATchat

bcdtech Mar 15 @ 8:03 PM EDT

Tech Integration specialist from Western MA... part of the one and only wild west astech cohort. #ATchat

Shaun_SLP Mar 15 @ 8:03 PM EDT

#ATChat Shaun, SLP from Calgary, Canada!

erinngilmore_ Mar 15 @ 8:03 PM EDT

safe travels Karen. I am looking forward to tonight's discussion #atchat

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JoanneSabo Mar 15 @ 8:03 PM EDT

have a great trip #atchat

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rtopp Mar 15 @ 8:04 PM EDT

not live tweeting-- on the road #ATchat

mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:04 PM EDT

Happy to have everyone here tonight. We are in for a great convo w/ @bwwojci leading the way #ATchat

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KarenJan - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:04 PM EDT

very cool fact! #atchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:04 PM EDT

Hi @JoanneSabo, @SLP_Echo @rtopp, @maegeK @bcdtech @Shaun_SLP @erinngilmore #atchat

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Megmburns02 Mar 15 @ 8:04 PM EDT

Meghan (AT Consultant/SLP) in Rochester, NY. Not sure I'll have much to contribute but very interested to lurk/learn! #atchat

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:05 PM EDT

Q1: How does one ‘show what one knows’ with regard to AT so others view one as competent in AT? #ATchat

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:05 PM EDT

@karenjan... huge responsibility...if I step on one side of the line or the other...I could tip the balance of the country :-) #atchat

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bcdtech Mar 15 @ 8:05 PM EDT

AT program from Simmons College was a great choice... #ATchat

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:05 PM EDT

Welcome @Megmburns02! #atchat

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KarenJan - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:05 PM EDT

interested in your perspective since you are self taught #atchat

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MaegeK Mar 15 @ 8:06 PM EDT

A1: Still trying to figure that out. I feel like course work and letting people know you have taken formal chaining to be effective. #ATchat

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:06 PM EDT

@bcdtech - good example - what did you get out of that experience to show what you know about AT? #atchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:06 PM EDT

How do ppl repond when you share that information? #atchat

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bcdtech Mar 15 @ 8:07 PM EDT

Do you mean as a degree? An Ed.S ... altho I think it said special ed... #ATchat

mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:07 PM EDT

A1: This is our struggle in AT. We come from different areas. Course work helps but so much is learned "on the job" #ATchat

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:07 PM EDT

A1 For me, I always feel that I am putting my credentials on display to prove to others that I know something about AT - agree? #atchat

KarenJan - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:07 PM EDT

A1 such an important question since anyone can call themselves a AT specialist #atchat

Shaun_SLP Mar 15 @ 8:08 PM EDT

#ATChat A1: I think leading by example is important. But also backing it up with sound theory and training to be able to reference

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:08 PM EDT

@mmatp - good point. That is both a challenge and a bonus...many fields feed into practicing AT. #atchat

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JoanneSabo Mar 15 @ 8:08 PM EDT

A1. Feel that best way to show is my implementation with students b/c many are unfamiliar w/AT still #atchat

lrdichiara Mar 15 @ 8:08 PM EDT

Leslie, AT Specialist, from LI, New York jumping in a few minutes late! #atchat

bcdtech Mar 15 @ 8:09 PM EDT

A1 As an non-sped, non atp, no "teachuh college degree" my job description does relate to my creds or what I do #ATchat

EGraniero Mar 15 @ 8:09 PM EDT

yes I agree but haven't yet been able to put them anywhere other than my resume #atchat

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The_app_guide Mar 15 @ 8:09 PM EDT

John O'Sullivan Chelmsford #atchat

mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:09 PM EDT

A1: Coursework helps, going to as many PD opps as you can. Having ATP helps a little - shows a basic understanding of AT #Atchat

Shaun_SLP Mar 15 @ 8:09 PM EDT

#ATChat A1: I think also being able to tie your knowledge to specific instances of what is happening on the front lines is very important

EGraniero Mar 15 @ 8:09 PM EDT

A1: answering questions/ demonstrating knowledge as it present themselves, starting my own blog which has AT interwoven in it #atchat

rtopp Mar 15 @ 8:10 PM EDT

A1 - talking at conferences, name known by group, degree in AT #ATchat

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:10 PM EDT

I hear ya...but its hard to cart around our students to show that too...right? #atchat

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KarenJan - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:10 PM EDT

A1 at this point, I feel I have a (good) reputation as an AT practitioner. Took work to get there #atchat

bcdtech Mar 15 @ 8:10 PM EDT

A1 It feels like you need more personal connections vs degree. #ATchat

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:10 PM EDT

How did you get there? What makes a person 'credible'? #atchat

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wernedat Mar 15 @ 8:10 PM EDT

hey there - Elisa from FL, late bc I am multi-tasking between a core vocab webinar by @gvantatenhove , making dinner, and now #atchat

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SLP_Echo Mar 15 @ 8:10 PM EDT

A1: I find the closest person to pt needing AT, train, give advice, implement AT, and follow up. Let results speak as credentials #ATchat

mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:10 PM EDT

yes. I always felt that was the strength of our field. So many different perspectives #ATchat

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rtopp Mar 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT

A1 - ATP behind name. #ATchat

Megmburns02 Mar 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT

1 of 2) it's interesting bc when I'm making recs related to AAC I sometimes feel people take me more seriously bc I'm a SLP #atchat

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT

Agree completely...knowledge is part of it...practices are also important...networking (like 2nite) very important! #atchat

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EGraniero Mar 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT

A1 cont: and sharing pertinent information on social media especially twitter and facebook #atchat

Shaun_SLP Mar 15 @ 8:12 PM EDT

#atchat I very much agree! Having a degree only gets you so far!

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JoanneSabo Mar 15 @ 8:12 PM EDT

you certainly do and well deserved #atchat

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wernedat Mar 15 @ 8:12 PM EDT

A1 - I feel my competency is based on multiple perspectives OT, Special Ed Masters, and AT practice for 10+ years - but cred needed #atchat

bcdtech Mar 15 @ 8:12 PM EDT

@karenjan = the queen of all AT since she has been talking/teaching/preaching/ "reach all learners" since I have known her. #ATchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:13 PM EDT

Get ready for Q2... #ATchat

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:13 PM EDT

Wouldn't it be nice if there was a way to show what you know...not just a certificate...but what you have actually demo'd as skills? #atchat

lrdichiara Mar 15 @ 8:13 PM EDT

A1: Keeping current in educational trends and best practices through PD is important in showing competency. #atchat

The_app_guide Mar 15 @ 8:13 PM EDT

I think when you can find answers to problems people start to listen. That takes work. #atchat

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:13 PM EDT

Hi @lrdichiara! You snuck in while I was typing...welcome! #atchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:14 PM EDT

Q2: What do you know about microcredentialling (microcred) or digital badging? Do you have examples? #ATchat

mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:14 PM EDT

Do you feel the ATP helps? I have to do lots of explaining about what that even means #ATchat

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Megmburns02 Mar 15 @ 8:14 PM EDT

2 of 2) when recs are related to academics I almost want to hide that I'm a SLP bc I feel like people may not ...#atchat

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:14 PM EDT

Me too....In fact...had to explain it 3 times just today :-) #atchat

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The_app_guide Mar 15 @ 8:14 PM EDT

I constantly do research. I find I can stay ahead of the curve if I put in the time. #atchat

JoanneSabo Mar 15 @ 8:14 PM EDT

like a website w/videos of Ss in action "seeing is believing " #atchat

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lrdichiara Mar 15 @ 8:14 PM EDT

That you do! :) People buy into credibility thru evidence of success &hard work over time. time is essential element. #atchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:15 PM EDT

I love your point on this...title and perceived competencies go hand in hand.... #atchat

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Megmburns02 Mar 15 @ 8:15 PM EDT

Ended up being 3 of 3 ) take me seriously (maybe justifiably!) #atchat

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:15 PM EDT

So what are microcredentials? #atchat

mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:15 PM EDT

frustrating. But it does carry weight with people ONCE they know what it means! #ATchat

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bcdtech Mar 15 @ 8:15 PM EDT

A2: ALtho I think badging has potential, I learn things that I need to know, use... too old to jump thru hoops of any kind #ATchat

SLP_Echo Mar 15 @ 8:16 PM EDT

A2: I don't have any experience first hand, but think it would be helpful internally for recognition. to public, just more to expln #ATchat

erinngilmore_ Mar 15 @ 8:16 PM EDT

partially self, job-embedded, grad coursework, tech licensure, special ed, reading, and evaluation #atchat

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lrdichiara Mar 15 @ 8:16 PM EDT

Absolutely John! When people see results there is a great buy in and increased support. #ATchat

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rtopp Mar 15 @ 8:16 PM EDT

It shows that you had to do something to be credited. may not understand but gives you credit #ATchat

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:14 PM EDT

Me too....In fact...had to explain it 3 times just today :-) #atchat
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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:17 PM EDT

There are organizations like Digital Promise and Bloomboard that have advanced microcredentials in education https://t.co/C5okwiduZq #atchat

Shaun_SLP Mar 15 @ 8:17 PM EDT

#atchat even just word of mouth. If you make a difference, ppl will know

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lrdichiara Mar 15 @ 8:17 PM EDT

I go back and forth about pursuing this...Not sure of the importance/need for the title, although it is nice to have. #ATchat

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rtopp Mar 15 @ 8:18 PM EDT

A2 - very little. I have gotten some badges though school in a training. #ATchat

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:18 PM EDT

Small - specific - bite-size - stackable - individual - personalized - learning paths. These are microcredentials. #atchat

JoanneSabo Mar 15 @ 8:18 PM EDT

feel ignorant but not sure what you mean #atchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:18 PM EDT

I think we have to differentiate btwn microcredentials and digital badges. #atchat

Shaun_SLP Mar 15 @ 8:18 PM EDT

#atchat I am admittedly very confused on the subject!

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bcdtech Mar 15 @ 8:19 PM EDT

I gave kids badges in edmodo for performing certain tasks, demonstrating skills. Kids loved it. As adult learner- not so much. #ATchat

wernedat Mar 15 @ 8:19 PM EDT

A2: I wish AOTA would add AT as a digital badge and/or microcredential like it has for other areas of practice #atchat

lrdichiara Mar 15 @ 8:19 PM EDT

Happy to be here! Looking forward to learning tonight! #ATchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:19 PM EDT

Digital badges are a way to be recognized for some kind of achievement - it might be effort, an accomplishment, or earned credential #atchat

Megmburns02 Mar 15 @ 8:19 PM EDT

same! #atchat

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bcdtech Mar 15 @ 8:19 PM EDT

@bwwojci Yes- I am thinking that they are the same #ATchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:20 PM EDT

For example...I earned a digital badge for capturing 100 rock-type Pokemon the other day. It is an accomplishment #atchat

MaegeK Mar 15 @ 8:20 PM EDT

A2: I like the idea of both, but am not sure how i would communicate them to stakeholders #ATchat

lenettesprunk Mar 15 @ 8:20 PM EDT

Demonstration of ability to apply is a necessity #atchat

lrdichiara Mar 15 @ 8:20 PM EDT

Same! Glad I'm not alone here. #atchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:21 PM EDT

Microcredentials are based on competencies - skills that have been identified as necessary to be 'knowledgeable and skilled' #atchat

Shaun_SLP Mar 15 @ 8:21 PM EDT

#atchat while I do like the idea, it allows you to tailor your training and education for your interests/population...

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JoanneSabo Mar 15 @ 8:21 PM EDT

glad I'm not alone #atchat

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bcdtech Mar 15 @ 8:21 PM EDT

@bwwojci So, If I can set up core words on an AAC device, is that something you would get a microcredential for? #ATchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:21 PM EDT

Very true @lenettedsprunk - MicroCreds require a demonstration of knowledge or skill to be earned. Demo is necessary. #atchat

Shaun_SLP Mar 15 @ 8:21 PM EDT

#atchat how recognized are they by the gen pop?

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:22 PM EDT

Get ready for Q3... #ATchat

mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:22 PM EDT

common misconception. there is a difference. Microcreds have potential to change the way people view our skills #ATchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:22 PM EDT

Great point! MicroCreds allow learneers to choose what and how they learn then demonstrate what they learned. #atchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:23 PM EDT

Q3: MicroCred starts with IDing small, stackable, progressive competencies. What are examples of AT competencies? #ATchat

bcdtech Mar 15 @ 8:23 PM EDT

@mmatp Who are these "people" employers, people you provide services for?? #ATchat

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lenettesprunk Mar 15 @ 8:23 PM EDT

How do you define what knowledge and skills are necessary? #atchat

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:23 PM EDT

Yes! If there are competencies that have been identified for Core Words or programming them into a device. #atchat

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JoanneSabo Mar 15 @ 8:23 PM EDT

absolutely- to me this is most important- application knowledge is real - hands on proof - results #atchat

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lrdichiara Mar 15 @ 8:23 PM EDT

I can see the potential of this. Just curious what the criteria to earn microcreds would be. #ATchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:23 PM EDT

@lennettesprunk asks a good question...how do you define what are necessary knowledge and skills... #atchat

mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:24 PM EDT

yes and yes! It would be anyone who might ask "what makes you an "expert" in AT" #ATchat

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The_app_guide Mar 15 @ 8:24 PM EDT

me too. #atchat

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wernedat Mar 15 @ 8:24 PM EDT

A2: AOTA has board certifications in Peds, and Specialty certs in School systems-but nada for AT-I wonder if it would be helpful... #atchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:24 PM EDT

Microcreds can be created by anyone...there are pros and cons with this...to have value they must be recognized as 'credible' #atchat

bcdtech Mar 15 @ 8:24 PM EDT

@bwwojci But since tech changes constantly - devices, delivery methods, etc... and same is not equal... how to make this list? #ATchat

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lrdichiara Mar 15 @ 8:25 PM EDT

Yes perfect example of badges! #ATchat

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wernedat Mar 15 @ 8:25 PM EDT

A3: In FL we have competencies that are recommended for school system AT providers, but they are just recomm not required. #atchat

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:25 PM EDT

So who might create MicroCreds? What competencies are there in AT that might need to be learned, demo'd, and recognized by others? #atchat

mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:26 PM EDT

A3: AT Competencies include: AT Consideration, AT implementation, expertise in learner need+features of tech #ATchat

lenettesprunk Mar 15 @ 8:26 PM EDT

for me this changes daily, hourly. Depending on area, district, staff, kid. #atchat

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Shaun_SLP Mar 15 @ 8:26 PM EDT

#atchat so then does there need to specific bodies who create these? Do we need to have the ability to say "that's a __ cred?'

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wernedat Mar 15 @ 8:26 PM EDT

these competencies cover consideration, implementation, data collect, etc. and knowing things like programming etc. #atchat

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:26 PM EDT

True....but what skills are needed when you go into those environments to serve students? #atchat

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lrdichiara Mar 15 @ 8:26 PM EDT

It would be meaningless if there aren't regulations of some sort to deem who is credible #ATchat

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MaegeK Mar 15 @ 8:27 PM EDT

A3: I think we are still figuring that out. I think it depends on the population you work with as well. #ATchat

The_app_guide Mar 15 @ 8:27 PM EDT

AT competencies? When you find solutions and people thank you. That means more than certifcations and degrees. #atchat

EGraniero Mar 15 @ 8:27 PM EDT

would a microcreditial include googl/ or apple distiquished educator? #atchat

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:27 PM EDT

Yes and no. There are some bodies that are doing it - NY Pub schools, Digital Promise, and others. But.... #atchat

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mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:28 PM EDT

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:28 PM EDT

Anyone could create a MicroCred. The credibility comes from the transparency of what is needed to achieve the MicroCred. #atchat

bcdtech Mar 15 @ 8:28 PM EDT

@EGraniero I would hate to have a cred tied to an OS... I used to be really good at Internet Explorer :>) #ATchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:28 PM EDT

For example, if I was learning to crochet, I could earn a MicroCred when I demo'd a single crochet stitch. #atchat

JoanneSabo Mar 15 @ 8:29 PM EDT

skill to determine barriers Ss facing based on needs #atchat and need to know how to remove barriers provide access

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Shaun_SLP Mar 15 @ 8:29 PM EDT

#atchat I almost wish there could be some sort of standard when it comes to this. Anybody could make something sound great!

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:29 PM EDT

Who gave it? What did it take for me to earn it? These things are transparent. Credibility is judged by being explicit and open. #atchat

mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:29 PM EDT

good point. tools change but a competent AT person focuses on features. ability to match those to needs #ATchat

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bcdtech Mar 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT

@bwwojci I kind of like using the WATI considerations and then, regardless of tech... figuring out how to help #ATchat

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EGraniero Mar 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT

why? #atchat

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rtopp Mar 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT

so who would you demonstrate to to get the MicroCred #ATchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT

Did you have a standard for learning to operate an AAC device? Did someone set that standard? Is it an imp. skill? #atchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:31 PM EDT

Get ready! Q4 is coming up... #ATchat

mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:31 PM EDT

YES! WATI tools focus on features and abilities. We use our expertise to match that to existing tools #ATchat

bcdtech Mar 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT

@bwwojci I kind of like using the WATI considerations and then, regardless of tech... figuring out how to help #ATchat
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lrdichiara Mar 15 @ 8:31 PM EDT

Exactly how I feel. Seems almost too loose without some sort of guideline or reg. #atchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:31 PM EDT

@rtopp MicroCred are demo'd through some kind of assessment. Knowledge might be a test. Skill may be a project. (1/2) #atchat

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bcdtech Mar 15 @ 8:31 PM EDT

@EGraniero Pretty inclusive list for consideration. Starting point #ATchat

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rtopp Mar 15 @ 8:31 PM EDT

@bwwojci @bcdtech I was thinking that too. Is there a way to incorporate it? #ATchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:31 PM EDT

@rtopp Whoever developed the MicroCred sets the assessment and evaluates the evidence of mastery. #atchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:32 PM EDT

Q4: Is evaluating competencies needed in our field? Is MicroCred the best way to do this? Other ideas? #ATchat

Shaun_SLP Mar 15 @ 8:32 PM EDT

#atchat there was a time when I thought so! There are some around who believe there is a standard way to implement AAC and devices

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:33 PM EDT

Do you still? Or is AAC operation a set of skills that can be learned and then demo'd? If so, it could be a MicroCred #atchat

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The_app_guide Mar 15 @ 8:33 PM EDT

I wish there were state certifications for AT #atchat

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mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:34 PM EDT

Keep the convo going. Join our #ATchat Facebook group. https://t.co/Ab65dJYnFw

JoanneSabo Mar 15 @ 8:34 PM EDT

this area is so quickly evolving, growing, changing, who would be evaluating as it seems that we are the pioneers #atchat

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MaegeK Mar 15 @ 8:34 PM EDT

@The_app_guide completely agree! #ATchat

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bcdtech Mar 15 @ 8:34 PM EDT

@bwwojci The field is so broad- hard to narrow skill sets down. Not SLP & have little AAC experience- but have not needed it so far #ATchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:35 PM EDT

@JoanneSabo Agreed. What if we developed a group to define and create MicroCreds for AT? Could that help others? #atchat

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lrdichiara Mar 15 @ 8:35 PM EDT

AT is not a one size fits all, so creating regulations or standardizing the credentials would be tricky at best. #atchat

Shaun_SLP Mar 15 @ 8:35 PM EDT

#atchat point made! Definitely could be a microcred!

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MaegeK Mar 15 @ 8:35 PM EDT

A4: I think we need something more formal then microcred I think we need something related to school practice that denotes knowledge #ATchat

JoanneSabo Mar 15 @ 8:35 PM EDT

but sometimes you run into others making the guidelines who don't have the required knowledge #atchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:35 PM EDT

And thats the advantage...choose, learn, and demo what you need to know and do...do it as you need it. #atchat

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Shaun_SLP Mar 15 @ 8:36 PM EDT

#atchat this would make me feel alot better! Haha

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mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:36 PM EDT

States would face the issues we are discussing tonight. What makes a "good" AT person? Skills? Experience? #ATchat

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The_app_guide Mar 15 @ 8:36 PM EDT

Q4: What do people think about RESNA certification? #atchat

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:36 PM EDT

And that is why all aspects of a microcred are open to public scruitny. #atchat

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lrdichiara Mar 15 @ 8:36 PM EDT

It certainly could help those new to the field to help see what others are focused on in terms of mastery #ATchat

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bcdtech Mar 15 @ 8:36 PM EDT

@bwwojci I see it as both advantage- to learner, but disadvantage to employers #ATchat

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rtopp Mar 15 @ 8:37 PM EDT

A5 - needs to be professional --listed on a website what they stand for. #ATchat

EGraniero Mar 15 @ 8:37 PM EDT

I think tha would be a great idea. It would be very helpful to me being new to AT professionally #atchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:37 PM EDT

I say this with hesitation - but - just because two ppl have Bachelor's degrees in the same area (1/2) #atchat

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Shaun_SLP Mar 15 @ 8:37 PM EDT

#atchat A4) I think evaluating competencies is needed in most fields. I wish I knew the straight answer to this tho!

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:38 PM EDT

What's that I see? Q5 is arriving shortly... #ATchat

MaegeK Mar 15 @ 8:38 PM EDT

@The_app_guide I plan to take the exam. I need the label for my area, but have heard it is not really related to what I do. #ATchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:38 PM EDT

doesn't mean they have had the same training or developed the same skills. Yet a degree is 'standardized' (2/2) #atchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:38 PM EDT

RT @EGraniero: @JoanneSabo I think tha would be a great idea. It would be very helpful to me being new to AT professionally #atchat

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lrdichiara Mar 15 @ 8:38 PM EDT

It's hard to have a straight answer in our field when the outcomes/goals for each child vary even with the same tools #ATchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:39 PM EDT

Q5: How does one set up MicroCred experiences where the competencies are transparent to others? #ATchat

wernedat Mar 15 @ 8:39 PM EDT

A5: wish all the organizations for professionals could agree on one way - asha,aota,cec,tash,apta etc #pipedream #atchat

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mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:39 PM EDT

very real concern. I hear that the test has changed to be more reflective of the AT field #ATchat

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Shaun_SLP Mar 15 @ 8:39 PM EDT

#atchat yep! That's why conversations like this are so important!

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JoanneSabo Mar 15 @ 8:39 PM EDT

as long as the evaluators themselves are AT credentialed #atchat

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JoanneSabo Mar 15 @ 8:40 PM EDT

so very true #atchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:40 PM EDT

True...but why not develop MicroCreds that address those variances? Is that not furthering learning? #atchat

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The_app_guide Mar 15 @ 8:40 PM EDT

I have thought of doing the same thing but I am not sure if people outside the feild even know what it is. #atchat

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mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:40 PM EDT

exactly. understanding feature matching is critical b/c of the differences we see in every learner #ATchat

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lrdichiara Mar 15 @ 8:40 PM EDT

I'd love to hear feedback from someone who has taken it recently #ATchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:41 PM EDT

Wow....this is a good discussion....So many good points...seems like credentialing and AT is still a passion-filled topic :-) #atchat

Shaun_SLP Mar 15 @ 8:41 PM EDT

#atchat I almost feel like very specific microcreds tailored to specific pops (perhaps job proposed) might work?

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MaegeK Mar 15 @ 8:41 PM EDT

@The_app_guide Speaking to other AT people in my field, many districts and advocates look for it. Doesn't mean they understand it. #ATchat

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bcdtech Mar 15 @ 8:42 PM EDT

@Shaun_SLP If I worked with a specific pop that would make sense, but K-12...not specific #ATchat

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JoanneSabo Mar 15 @ 8:42 PM EDT

agree standardized is sometimes meaningless for the needs of our learners #atchat

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SarahNelson11 Mar 15 @ 8:42 PM EDT

AT is a passion of mine-want to be an AT specialist but hard to do w/o credentials. #atchat

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mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:43 PM EDT

I feel they look for it because there really isn't anything else to look for. Microcreds could change that #ATchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:43 PM EDT

So how do we get buy in for Microcredentials? #atchat

JoanneSabo Mar 15 @ 8:43 PM EDT

I'd be interested #atchat

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MaegeK Mar 15 @ 8:43 PM EDT

@mmatp That would be awesome! I pay enough in yearly fees to be an SLP in my state ugh :( #ATchat

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lrdichiara Mar 15 @ 8:43 PM EDT

Agreed! Feature matching must always be at the forefront of the AT process! #ATchat

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VickiBostonSLP Mar 15 @ 8:43 PM EDT

I never felt it was worth it to me, but I've always been focused on AAC & being an SLP gives the credibility I need #ATChat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:44 PM EDT

There are entire rules around create Microcreds. #atchat

Shaun_SLP Mar 15 @ 8:44 PM EDT

#atchat that's a good point/question. If you are already doing s/t, would a microcred Make a big difference?

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:45 PM EDT

Great discussion so far! Are you ready for Q6? It will be here shortly... #ATchat

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:45 PM EDT

Look at what it takes to earn a microcred represented as a badge (https://t.co/DdWqATuGXC) and develop one (https://t.co/DdWqATuGXC) #atchat

SarahNelson11 Mar 15 @ 8:45 PM EDT

I went the #edtech route through Michigan State but MN doesn't aknowlege that I know of. #atchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:46 PM EDT

Q6: How do we create ‘buy in’ from teachers, schools, admins, states, etc. for MicroCreds? #atchat

mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:46 PM EDT

Look how much fun @bwwojci had tonight! Don't forget. We are looking for people to mod #ATchat Fill out the form: https://t.co/wUQEjDPamL

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:46 PM EDT

That is unfortunate and frustrating. #atchat

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VickiBostonSLP Mar 15 @ 8:47 PM EDT

ASHA debates having AAC "specialization" regularly & I have mixed feelings about it. Not clear what it would entail. #atchat

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:47 PM EDT

Possibly or possibly not. However, think about being able to say...I have demonstrated my skills in... #atchat

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rtopp Mar 15 @ 8:47 PM EDT

A6 need states to make a part of teaching certificate :) I will have a degree but nothing on my cert. to show the work #ATchat

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bcdtech Mar 15 @ 8:48 PM EDT

@VickiBostonSLP I know some SLP's who know AAC and others who only know one app and not well. #ATchat

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Shaun_SLP Mar 15 @ 8:48 PM EDT

true. The C after my name (or 3 C's for us slps) does carry weight, even tho I don't have to have it! #atchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:48 PM EDT

A6 We are coming from the perspective that recognition of knowledge must come only from institutions. What if we changed that? #atchat

lrdichiara Mar 15 @ 8:49 PM EDT

I feel like I'm playing devil's advocate with myself! I see both sides to microcreds.... #ATchat

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VickiBostonSLP Mar 15 @ 8:50 PM EDT

yep, so specialization would help ID those w/extra knowledge. But- concerned it would fall off scope of practice of others #atchat

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bcdtech Mar 15 @ 8:50 PM EDT

@bwwojci It's hard enough to have univ degree recogonized... how can micros compete? #ATchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:50 PM EDT

I do that on a daily basis...to create buy in requires changing the system....a disruption #atchat

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JoanneSabo Mar 15 @ 8:50 PM EDT

interested! #atchat

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OranTkatchov Mar 15 @ 8:50 PM EDT

Saw this at a conference, most of us got it wrong #atchat #mathschat #k12

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:51 PM EDT

Let's bring it home! Q7...here it comes! #ATchat

bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:51 PM EDT

Maureen...Great question. These recognition - including degrees - only have as much credibility as we allow them to have. #atchat

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lrdichiara Mar 15 @ 8:51 PM EDT

It would just require proof of skills...Anyone can say I'm an expert on.... #Atchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:52 PM EDT

Q7 What other questions do you have about evaluating competencies and MicroCreds? #atchat

mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:52 PM EDT

I love disruption. I am very intrigued by microcreds. See this as very positive for AT #ATchat

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MaegeK Mar 15 @ 8:52 PM EDT

A6: I think for micros to be taken seriously there needs major changes in how people perceive competence, not just AT competence #ATchat

JoanneSabo Mar 15 @ 8:52 PM EDT

really fill in this field in order to just stay afloat requires 24/7 online attention due to constantly changes/growth #atchat

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mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:52 PM EDT

...and not just a 1x proof of skill but a pattern of continued learning #ATchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:52 PM EDT

True...proof of skill is important. Public, transparent scrutiny of the credential is also important. If the populous values it... #atchat

Shaun_SLP Mar 15 @ 8:53 PM EDT

#atchat as somebody who wants to get away from the specialist model, I want AAC to be a major part part of our SOP

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:54 PM EDT

Wow....where did this hour go? Any last minute questions? This conversation...it is important...and it shouldn't stop here. #atchat

JoanneSabo Mar 15 @ 8:54 PM EDT

"if the populous values it" is key #atchat

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Shaun_SLP Mar 15 @ 8:54 PM EDT

#atchat so should there some kind of standardized data tracking for microcreds?

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erinngilmore_ Mar 15 @ 8:55 PM EDT

maybe an AT endorsement. A micro-credential added to our license would be helpful #ATChat

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lrdichiara Mar 15 @ 8:55 PM EDT

@mmatp Exactly! AT is a fast paced field w changes everyday...there would need to be a way to regulate people keeping UTD. #atchat

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JoanneSabo Mar 15 @ 8:55 PM EDT

that has to be the case in this field #atchat

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mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:55 PM EDT

great question. there should be some ways for these microcreds to be standardized #Atchat

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lrdichiara Mar 15 @ 8:55 PM EDT

I started with 1 at 8pm....now I have tons! LOL #ATchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:56 PM EDT

Need to have a metric of 'credibility' and there already is tracking method - https://t.co/WFnnaJlukg #atchat

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VickiBostonSLP Mar 15 @ 8:56 PM EDT

me, too! & I worry that considering AAC as specialist (rather than just part of SLP) it pushes it further away #ATchat

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mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:57 PM EDT

Did you miss something tonight? Don’t worry-we will post the Storify from tonight’s #ATchat tomorrow morning

nporter Mar 15 @ 8:57 PM EDT

Inquiry learning at its best. The more questions the better! #atchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:57 PM EDT

Check out the Open Badge Standard - a standard for communicating what goes into a badge that could recognize a MicroCred #atchat

Shaun_SLP Mar 15 @ 8:57 PM EDT

#atchat yep! It's already something I deal with regularly! I'm guessing our swallowing colleagues deal with it too

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mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:58 PM EDT

Make sure to follow everyone from today’s #atchat Let’s continue to learn and share!

bcdtech Mar 15 @ 8:58 PM EDT

@VickiBostonSLP Yeah but... AAC is special- it's own language, varies from lo tech to super high tech... But part of SLP. #ATchat

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VickiBostonSLP Mar 15 @ 8:58 PM EDT

on the other hand, if you need AAC, good to know you're getting speech therapy from SLP who knows AAC... #ATchat

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bwwojci Mar 15 @ 8:58 PM EDT

Thank you everyone for joining this evening...let's keep the conversation going! #atchat

JoanneSabo Mar 15 @ 8:58 PM EDT

not related to tonight's topic but am excited to say - just got my first Chromebook an Acer R 11 - loving it-lots to learn #atchat

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mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:59 PM EDT

Huge thx to @bwwojci for guiding us through this interesting topic. I see a return engagement in the future for this topic! #ATchat

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bcdtech Mar 15 @ 8:59 PM EDT

@JoanneSabo Love love love Chromebooks! #ATchat

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JoanneSabo Mar 15 @ 8:59 PM EDT

#atchat

MaegeK Mar 15 @ 8:59 PM EDT

@VickiBostonSLP It is hard, because you see so many recommendations that are not presuming competence by SLPS who don't keep up. #ATchat

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mmatp - Moderator Mar 15 @ 8:59 PM EDT

That is a nice one! Feel free to shoot me any questions you have. Happy to help #ATchat

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JoanneSabo Mar 15 @ 8:59 PM EDT

@mmatp great convo. tonight as always learned lots #atchat

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VickiBostonSLP Mar 15 @ 8:59 PM EDT

and it takes a lot of time to keep up with developments in the field, so I get that. But still- SLPs need AAC #ATchat

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