#gtchat Archive

Global #gtchat Powered by TAGT is a weekly chat on Twitter that takes place on Thursdays at 8 p.m. ET/7 p.m. CT and 5 p.m. PT in the U.S. For one hour, parents, educators, advocates and experts in the field of gifted and talented gather to share resources, links, authentic life experiences and insights about gifted issues.

Thursday February 15, 2018
8:00 PM EST

  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:00 PM EST
    My tweets for the next hour will be devoted to Global #gtchat ( #gifted #talented ) Powered by #TAGT Please join the conversation! #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Welcome to Global Gifted and Talented Chat Powered by the Texas Association for the Gifted & Talented @TxGifted #TAGT #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Thanks for joining us to chat about “Boost: 12 Effective Ways to Lift Up Twice-Exceptional Children” from @GiftedHF Press with guest, Kelly Hirt @MyTBP #gtchat #2ekids
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:02 PM EST
    My Twice Baked Potato: About Kelly https://t.co/luN0kRfrwj #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Please take a minute to let us know who you are and where you’re tweeting from! #gtchat
  • cossie29 Feb 15 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Justine from Auckland, New Zealand. It's 2pm and incredibly hot here! #gtchat
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Hi, I'm Corin Goodwin, ED of GHF and mom to a variety of 2e young adults and cats. #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:03 PM EST
    I’m Lisa Conrad ~ advocate for gifted children, conference presenter, blogger and mother of 2 gifted adults from Pittsburgh, PA #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Jen in N IL. Writer/flute teacher/homeschooler. Known Kelly online for years. :) So glad to see she's published! :D #gtchat
  • jofrei Feb 15 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Hi! Jo Freitag from Gifted Resources and Sprite's Site Victoria Australia here at noon Friday for #gtchat
  • MyTBP Feb 15 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Hi! This is Kelly. Wa elementary teacher, homeschooling mama and author of GHF Press Boost: 12 Effective Ways to Lift Up Our Twice-Exceptional Children #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • DahlD Feb 15 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Diane from McKinney, Texas. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Welcome to #gtchat Justine!
    • cossie29 Feb 15 @ 8:03 PM EST
      Justine from Auckland, New Zealand. It's 2pm and incredibly hot here! #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Hi, Corin! #gtchat
    In reply to @GiftedHF
  • cossie29 Feb 15 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Great to be here - thank you! :)#gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • edupossiblekim Feb 15 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Kim in California — mom of a 2e kid, writer, educator #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Hi, Jen! #gtchat
    In reply to @laughingatchaos
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Hi, Jo! #gtchat Advisor
    • jofrei Feb 15 @ 8:04 PM EST
      Hi! Jo Freitag from Gifted Resources and Sprite's Site Victoria Australia here at noon Friday for #gtchat
  • SLauer_ Feb 15 @ 8:06 PM EST
    I'm Sarah, a pre service teacher from Minnesota! #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Hi, Kelly! Thanks for being our guest today! #gtchat
    In reply to @MyTBP
  • MyTBP Feb 15 @ 8:07 PM EST
    My pleasure! #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Welcome, Diane! #gtchat #TAGT
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Welcome to #gtchat Kim!
    In reply to @edupossiblekim
  • Dale_Chu Feb 15 @ 8:08 PM EST
    HAPPENING NOW: @gtchatmod and @MyTBP hosting a chat on twice-exceptional children. Follow along at #gtchat! @GiftedHF
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:08 PM EST
    Welcome to #gtchat Sarah!
    In reply to @SLauer_
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:08 PM EST
    Our first question is coming up; let’s get ready to chat! Please preface your responses with A1) Excited to collaborate and share ideas with you and Kelly Hirt today to talk about strategies to effectively help twice-exceptional children! #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Q1) How are twice-exceptional children different from other gifted children? #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A1 HOOBOY! #2ekids are double the flavor, double the fun. :D They're also double the challenge, w/giftedness playing tug o war with a variety of challenges. #gtchat
  • MrBolding Feb 15 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A1) Twice exceptional children may also have a specific learning disability, language impairment or other disability within the disability categories (perhaps varied by state) #gtchat
  • MyTBP Feb 15 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1) while both groups have high IQs, 2e learners possess unevenly dispersed strengths. Their giftedness can mask their disabilities or the opposite when their disabilities prevent them from reaching their potential #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A1) Depends on level of gifted...the higher the IQ, the more likely to overlap with 2e. Regardless, they are challenging! #2ekids have bigger gaps in ability and often more frustration to work through. #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:13 PM EST
    Ohhh lordy the frustration. That needs to be its own "e" because it is a BIGGIE. #gtchat
    • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:13 PM EST
      A1) Depends on level of gifted...the higher the IQ, the more likely to overlap with 2e. Regardless, they are challenging! #2ekids have bigger gaps in ability and often more frustration to work through. #gtchat
      In reply to @gtchatmod
  • DahlD Feb 15 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A1) Twice-exceptional children have an additional awesome factor such as: dyslexia, autism, etc. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:14 PM EST
    Q1) How are twice-exceptional children different from other gifted children? #gtchat #tryagain #lostinternet
  • cybraryman1 Feb 15 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A1 My 2E - Twice Exceptional page https://t.co/kdjBAziEkI Twice-Exceptional Children have a difficult road ahead of them and have disabilities that may prevent them from achieving their full potential. #2E #2ekids #twiceexceptional #gtchat
  • SLauer_ Feb 15 @ 8:14 PM EST
    Q1) In my experience, 2e children even less understood by the general public than "typical" gifted children, and have many more battles to face. They are also so, so wonderful to know and work with, and I love being able to watch them grow! #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:15 PM EST
    Agreed. I call them unicorns; they're awesome and magical and no one believes they exist. #gtchat
    • SLauer_ Feb 15 @ 8:14 PM EST
      Q1) In my experience, 2e children even less understood by the general public than "typical" gifted children, and have many more battles to face. They are also so, so wonderful to know and work with, and I love being able to watch them grow! #gtchat
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:15 PM EST
    Twice Exceptional Resources: https://t.co/uUKj5IZk6k #gtchat
  • cossie29 Feb 15 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A1. 2e children provide a challenge for teachers to not miss their giftedness, to be even more aware and 'onto it' in making sure that their learning needs are met. #gtchat
  • jofrei Feb 15 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A1) 2E children are both gifted and have some other physical or mental health problem or learning difficulty and need both aspects provisions #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A1) The term ‘twice-exceptional children’ covers a group of gifted children with high intellectual ability, but also with learning differences; differences which may confound both teachers and parents at first. #gtchat
  • cossie29 Feb 15 @ 8:17 PM EST
    What a brilliant way to put it. If everyone thought like this, then there would be less chance of missing their giftedness. #gtchat
    In reply to @laughingatchaos
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:17 PM EST
    Boost: 12 Effective Ways to Lift Up Our Twice-Exceptional Children via @GiftedHF https://t.co/qcjhVHWPGd #gtchat
  • tonyamcenery Feb 15 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A1) Sometimes it takes longer to identify both exceptionalities due to masking of one over the other. You may see the child one way until later. #gtchat
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:17 PM EST
    Some examples of Twice Exceptional Issues: https://t.co/PRGgkf24Ij #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A1) Twice-exceptional children often require a more aggressive educational plan to provide supports beyond strictly academic interventions. #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:17 PM EST
    I collect unicorns for a reason. :D #gtchat
    In reply to @cossie29
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:17 PM EST
    Bright Not Broken: Gifted Kids, ADHD, and Autism (Amazon) https://t.co/j0cJ8tTL0D #gtchat
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A1) And are less likely to fit into one-size-fits-all educational or other settings. #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • cossie29 Feb 15 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A1. Having 2e children in your class means that you cannot make assumptions about them as learners. Be open to what they CAN do not what they CAN'T #gtchat
  • jofrei Feb 15 @ 8:19 PM EST
    Gifted Homeschoolers Forum blog hop What makes them twice exceptional? https://t.co/O6ZvXfe0sf #gtchat
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A1) I'd say be aware of both. If you ignore what they can't do you may also be setting them up for failure. It's a balance. #gtchat
    In reply to @cossie29, @DahlD
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:19 PM EST
    Q2) Are ‘intensities’ the same as ‘asynchronous development’? #gtchat
  • vanessa8322 Feb 15 @ 8:19 PM EST
    Hello! Vanessa Blanco, first grade teacher in Prosper ISD. Excited to be back! #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • jofrei Feb 15 @ 8:20 PM EST
    Sprite's Site What makes them 2E? https://t.co/Fh93miESq4 #gtchat
  • cossie29 Feb 15 @ 8:20 PM EST
    True. Balance is key. Keeping an open mind and being really aware and observant. #gtchat
    In reply to @GiftedHF, @DahlD
  • jofrei Feb 15 @ 8:20 PM EST
    Sprite's Site 2E is https://t.co/rOdhPvelnJ #gtchat
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:21 PM EST
    A2. That depends. I often tell parents that the distinction between OEs and 2e is the level of frustration *for the child* (not the parent or teacher)! #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • jofrei Feb 15 @ 8:21 PM EST
    Hoagiesgifted blog hop 2e kids https://t.co/ylJyGohrQR #gtchat
  • MyTBP Feb 15 @ 8:21 PM EST
    A2) the terms are not the same, but they are related. Dabrowski’s Theory of Overexcitability suggests five areas: Psychomotor, Sensual, Intellectual, and Emotional #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:21 PM EST
    Hi, Vanessa! #gtchat #TAGT
    In reply to @vanessa8322
  • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:21 PM EST
    A2 Wish @christianewells was on this chat, she knows ALL ABOUT intensities. :) Seriously, an expert. IMHO, no, intensities & asynchrony aren't the same. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A2) ‘Intensities’ and ‘asynchronous development’ are both possible attributions of gifted and twice-exceptional but not necessarily. In fact, intensities as described by Dabrowski were not intended to be attributable to ‘gifted’ only. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:22 PM EST
    Living With Intensity: Understanding the Sensitivity, Excitability, and the Emotional Development of Gifted Children, Adolescents, and Adults (Amazon) https://t.co/SPXtGI8uf3 #gtchat
  • cossie29 Feb 15 @ 8:22 PM EST
    That makes a lot of sense to me. #gtchat
    In reply to @GiftedHF, @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A2) Dabrowski’s categorized intensities involved heightened sensitivities in areas such as intellect, emotions, imagination; among others. Asynchronous development, first described by the Columbus Group, involved being ‘many ages at once’. #gtchat
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Living with Gifted Children (incl intensities and OEs) https://t.co/qS8W4KMTMm #gtchat
  • jay9mac Feb 15 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Wow - I’m going to have to think about this. #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • MyTBP Feb 15 @ 8:23 PM EST
    A2) 2e children are often impacted by more than one OE. Often the higher IQ, theree is a greater asynchronous development and a greater impact from their intensities #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • DahlD Feb 15 @ 8:23 PM EST
    I like that, being “many ages at once.” It fits. #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • MrBolding Feb 15 @ 8:24 PM EST
    A2) Intensities may be characteristic of asynchronous development but the two are definitely different. #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:24 PM EST
    Our oldest presents strongly in all 5 OEs. Thank GOD he's chilled in the last few years; pretty brutal there for awhile. #gtchat
    • MyTBP Feb 15 @ 8:23 PM EST
      A2) 2e children are often impacted by more than one OE. Often the higher IQ, theree is a greater asynchronous development and a greater impact from their intensities #gtchat
      In reply to @gtchatmod
  • cossie29 Feb 15 @ 8:24 PM EST
    This has links to fantastic resources. #gtchat #edchatnz
  • edupossiblekim Feb 15 @ 8:24 PM EST
    A2) Not the same, but they can interact and affect each other. So when my asynchronous kiddo can’t physically create the project she visualized, the meltdown is extra intense. #gtchat
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:25 PM EST
    It definitely gets easier (in some ways) as they get older. #gtchat #2ekids
    In reply to @laughingatchaos
  • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:25 PM EST
    Agreed. People are stunned when I say I LOVE having teens. They just don't know how rough the early years were. #gtchat
    In reply to @GiftedHF
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:25 PM EST
    Aaaaaaaaamen! #gtchat
    In reply to @laughingatchaos
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:26 PM EST
    The Twice-Exceptional Dilemma (pdf) https://t.co/st3iFw4nAJ #gtchat
  • jofrei Feb 15 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A2) No Asynchronous development means having variations of level of dvelopment usually not typical of same age children. Intensities refers to having greater awareness and sensitivities #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:26 PM EST
    Q3) Why is it important to advocate for twice-exceptional students? #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:27 PM EST
    A3) Within the general education community, there is little awareness about what exactly twice-exceptionality is and how to intervene on behalf of these children. Advocacy most often falls to parents. #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A3 If #2ekids don't get appropriate advocacy, the gifted is ignored and only the challenges are seen. That can lead to STOP TRYING TO FIX ME!!! Ask me how I know this. :( #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:28 PM EST
    Different Minds: Gifted Children with AD/HD, Asperger Syndrome, and Other Learning Deficits (Amazon) https://t.co/TGMou2Yfje #gtchat
  • edupossiblekim Feb 15 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A3) Teachers couldn’t see the giftedness because of the challenges, so my kiddo wasn’t getting what she needed. We homeschool now because of it. #gtchat
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:28 PM EST
    3) It's important to advocate for ALL kids, including #2ekids. That's the easy answer. :-) The hard answer is because a 2e kid who remains unIDed and frustrated has an unnecessarily rough life, and we should treat people better. #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A3) As with gifted education, little to no coursework is required of education majors at the undergraduate level. Because both conditions may mask each other, it is important to understand twice-exceptionality at a very deep level. #gtchat
  • MyTBP Feb 15 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A3) 2e children are complex and many educators still do not understand them. When #2ekids are unseen and underserved, behaviors, frustration, and self-esteem issues can often follow #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • cossie29 Feb 15 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A3. I think it's about equity. #2ekids deserve to have their learning needs met. #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Us too. Six years, with another year and change to go. :D #gtchat
    In reply to @edupossiblekim
  • jofrei Feb 15 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A3) It is important to advocate for 2e students to ensure they receive appropriate provisions for both their giftedness AND their disabilities AT THE SAME TIME #gtchat
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Yes! This is what GHF was founded for, and remains a critical focus. Parents are often the ones who have to do all of the heavy lifted. It's better now than it was 15 years ago, but it's still rough. #gtchat
    • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:27 PM EST
      A3) Within the general education community, there is little awareness about what exactly twice-exceptionality is and how to intervene on behalf of these children. Advocacy most often falls to parents. #gtchat
  • cathylw2 Feb 15 @ 8:29 PM EST
    #gtchat Hi! Cathy from Alberta in Canada.
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Genius Denied: How to Stop Wasting Our Brightest Young Minds (Amazon) https://t.co/r7vnOtGtBV #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:29 PM EST
    ALL of their learning needs, both advanced and the challenges. #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Welcome, Cathy! #gtchat
    In reply to @cathylw2
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Yes, this. Exactly. #gtchat
    • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:28 PM EST
      A3) As with gifted education, little to no coursework is required of education majors at the undergraduate level. Because both conditions may mask each other, it is important to understand twice-exceptionality at a very deep level. #gtchat
  • MyTBP Feb 15 @ 8:30 PM EST
    A3) #2ekids are often misrepresented as lazy, unmotivated, disruptive, and argumentative. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:30 PM EST
    We are already halfway through our chat! Thank you all for sharing so many inspiring thoughts! #gtchat
  • tonyamcenery Feb 15 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Every child deserves to have a personalized pathway to self-actualization. It is about teaching the whole child - not part of them. #gtchat
  • cathylw2 Feb 15 @ 8:30 PM EST
    #gtchat Yes, and realize that each affects and is integrated with the other.
    • jofrei Feb 15 @ 8:29 PM EST
      A3) It is important to advocate for 2e students to ensure they receive appropriate provisions for both their giftedness AND their disabilities AT THE SAME TIME #gtchat
  • cossie29 Feb 15 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Yes! On very level. The understanding of 'equity' is sometimes missing in our education systems. #gtchat
    In reply to @laughingatchaos
  • edupossiblekim Feb 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
    A friend about to start her credential program wanted to do a paper on 2e and her professor didn’t even know what she meant. 🤦‍♀️ #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Oh, do you think it ends when they turn 18? Bwahahahaha! Haven't you been paying attention? <3 #gtchat
    In reply to @laughingatchaos, @edupossiblekim
  • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
    My college transcript states that I had instruction in exceptionalities. Hm. Must have blinked during class. #gtchat
    • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:28 PM EST
      A3) As with gifted education, little to no coursework is required of education majors at the undergraduate level. Because both conditions may mask each other, it is important to understand twice-exceptionality at a very deep level. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Hi, Cathy! #gtchat
    In reply to @cathylw2
  • SLauer_ Feb 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Q3) 2e students need extra advocacy because they are often misunderstood by their gifted and typical peers. By advocating for their needs and creating a caring community, while helping them learn to advocate for themselves, we set them up for a lifetime of success #gtchat
  • DahlD Feb 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Now that’s just frightening! #gtchat
    In reply to @edupossiblekim, @gtchatmod
  • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
    I'm throwing him out the door and locking it tight. ;) LOL! #gtchat
    In reply to @GiftedHF, @edupossiblekim
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
    My Twice Baked Potato via @MyTBP https://t.co/F0W0Ebeh5F #gtchat
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Yes, and it's equally important to continue to do so after K12, in community college and at university. That's the new frontier. It's not helicopter parenting, it's advocacy. #gtchat #2ekids
    In reply to @jofrei
  • MyTBP Feb 15 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Agreed! #gtchat
    In reply to @GiftedHF, @jofrei
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:32 PM EST
    All of their needs, period. #gtchat
  • cossie29 Feb 15 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Equality vs equity. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:33 PM EST
    A3) It’s important to advocate for twice-exceptional children because too few responsible adults do. And let’s not forget we are talking about exceptional kids who can profoundly benefit from caring and appropriate accommodations. #gtchat
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:33 PM EST
    And THAT is a problem. #gtchat
    • edupossiblekim Feb 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
      A friend about to start her credential program wanted to do a paper on 2e and her professor didn’t even know what she meant. 🤦‍♀️ #gtchat
      In reply to @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Q4) What steps can parents take once they learn their child is identified as twice-exceptional? #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:34 PM EST
    A4) Take time to experience relief; to acknowledge that you do, in fact, know your child best. Understand that you have faced challenges as a parent that other parents may not comprehend. #gtchat
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:34 PM EST
    A4) Get really friendly with the neighborhood wine broker. #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A4 Gonna focus on the parents here. They need to accept that their mental image of parenting needs to change. They have a unicorn; not many people do. So advice from parents/teachers who only know horses won't work. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Writing Your Own Script: A Parent's Role in the Gifted Child's Social Development via GHF Press (Amazon) https://t.co/7T81WrgbDf #gtchat
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A4) Find support. Real life, online, whatever... find people who understand and will back you up. Community is EVERYTHING when you are parenting against the prevailing winds. #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • tonyamcenery Feb 15 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Read and research. Partner with teachers. Find other parents who have walked down the path. #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A4 Parents MUST accept that self-care is a requirement. Unicorns require a LOT of energy, a LOT of hands-on work. Parents gotta take care of themselves, from the very beginning, or they're going to hurt. #gtchat
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:37 PM EST
    Excellent point. Default parenting is unlikely to be productive, and may be quite harmful. #gtchat
    • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:35 PM EST
      A4 Gonna focus on the parents here. They need to accept that their mental image of parenting needs to change. They have a unicorn; not many people do. So advice from parents/teachers who only know horses won't work. #gtchat
  • edupossiblekim Feb 15 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A4) Figure out how to support both sides — in our case, get support for her challenges and find ways to help her soar in her strengths. I do a lot of reading aloud and scribing while she studies complex not-meant-for-little-kid topics. #gtchat
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:37 PM EST
    Hey, I know that book! <3 #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A4) Once identified, educate yourself about twice-exceptionality. Find other parents or organizations which can support you and your child. #gtchat
  • cossie29 Feb 15 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A4. Connect with teachers who will support you and advocate for you. #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A4 The tendency is to givegivegive, and then there's nothing left. These amazing #2ekids can drain us dry FAST, so self-care is absolutely mandatory. #gtchat
  • MyTBP Feb 15 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A4) Parents must educate themselves about the unique needs of the 2e child. They must educate family and their children’s teachers. They must become an advocate and find a tribe which can support them. @GiftedHF was the place for me #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod, @GiftedHF
  • tonyamcenery Feb 15 @ 8:38 PM EST
    And don’t forget to involve the child. Ask them what they need and teach them how to advocate for themselves. #gtchat
  • DahlD Feb 15 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A4) Learn as much as they can about their child’s specific exceptionalities. Read, read, read. Advocate. Partner with both the child and teachers to ensure needs are met. #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • edupossiblekim Feb 15 @ 8:38 PM EST
    Yeah... I need to work on that one... #gtchat
    In reply to @laughingatchaos
  • jofrei Feb 15 @ 8:38 PM EST
    YES! Find and share information and resources! #gtchat
    • tonyamcenery Feb 15 @ 8:36 PM EST
      Read and research. Partner with teachers. Find other parents who have walked down the path. #gtchat
  • SLauer_ Feb 15 @ 8:38 PM EST
    Q4) I think it is important for parents to learn how to help their child understand their exceptionality, and also find ways to help without compromising autonomy of the child- it's important for the child to advocate for him/herself #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:39 PM EST
    GHF: Gifted Homeschoolers Forum https://t.co/PdKPBxBFKC #gtchat
  • MyTBP Feb 15 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A4) Parrnts must also practice self care as it can be exhausting to be a parent of a twice-exceptional child. #gtchat #parenting
    In reply to @gtchatmod, @GiftedHF
  • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:39 PM EST
    Self-care is an ongoing concern for me. Daily. And I MAKE myself take care of myself, because I've crashed too many times. #gtchat
    In reply to @edupossiblekim
  • cossie29 Feb 15 @ 8:39 PM EST
    Agree - make sure that the child has a voice. #gtchat
    In reply to @SLauer_
  • DahlD Feb 15 @ 8:40 PM EST
    I think that the self-advocacy component is so important. Especially as they get older. #gtchat
    In reply to @SLauer_
  • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:40 PM EST
    There needs to be a word higher on the exhaustion scale than exhausting. LOL! #gtchat
    In reply to @MyTBP, @gtchatmod, @GiftedHF
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:40 PM EST
    And Jen knows about this because she wrote the book on that: https://t.co/doMw342qat #gtchat
    • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:37 PM EST
      A4 The tendency is to givegivegive, and then there's nothing left. These amazing #2ekids can drain us dry FAST, so self-care is absolutely mandatory. #gtchat
  • MyTBP Feb 15 @ 8:40 PM EST
    Right?! #gtchat
    In reply to @laughingatchaos, @gtchatmod, @GiftedHF
  • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:41 PM EST
    And self-caring myself through writing a second book on self-care. #gtchat
    In reply to @GiftedHF
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:41 PM EST
    It was the place for me, too. There wasn't much before GHF so I have "grown up" as a parent with the community. #gtchat
    • MyTBP Feb 15 @ 8:37 PM EST
      A4) Parents must educate themselves about the unique needs of the 2e child. They must educate family and their children’s teachers. They must become an advocate and find a tribe which can support them. @GiftedHF was the place for me #gtchat
      In reply to @gtchatmod, @GiftedHF
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:41 PM EST
    Yes! #gtchat
    • tonyamcenery Feb 15 @ 8:38 PM EST
      And don’t forget to involve the child. Ask them what they need and teach them how to advocate for themselves. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:41 PM EST
    Great ideas, keep sharing! Question 5 is coming up. Preface your answer with A5) #gtchat
  • cossie29 Feb 15 @ 8:41 PM EST
    This would possibly be good for teachers to read so that they gain an insight and empathy/understanding into the lives of 2e students and their parents. I think it would help enormously in the classroom. #gtchat
    In reply to @GiftedHF
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:42 PM EST
    Q5) What is ‘Boost’ and how can educators implement it in schools/homeschooling? #gtchat
  • jofrei Feb 15 @ 8:42 PM EST
  • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A5 Not sure I know that phrase, so looking forward to hearing about it. #gtchat
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:43 PM EST
    Can't wait! #gtchat
    • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:41 PM EST
      And self-caring myself through writing a second book on self-care. #gtchat
      In reply to @GiftedHF
  • cossie29 Feb 15 @ 8:43 PM EST
    New for me too. #gtchat
    In reply to @laughingatchaos
  • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:43 PM EST
    HA! Me too! ;) #gtchat
    In reply to @GiftedHF
  • MrBolding Feb 15 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A4) Learn which exceptionality your state recognizes and become intimate with 504, IDEA and local policies that may impact the educational experience of your child. #gtchat
  • DahlD Feb 15 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A5) Not familiar with Boost. Eyes wide and ears open though! #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A5) As Kelly’s title tells us, Boost presents 12 ways to effectively lift up twice-exceptional children with dignity and compassion. #gtchat #2ekids
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:44 PM EST
    A5) It's a terrific new book by Kelly Hirt that applies to teachers, homeschoolers. coaches, parents, and anyone else working with #2ekids! #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:44 PM EST
    Boost: 12 Effective Ways to Lift Up Our Twice-Exceptional Children (Amazon) https://t.co/sBhlNvKGo1 #gtchat
  • MyTBP Feb 15 @ 8:45 PM EST
    A5) I wrote Boost: 12 Effective Ways to Lift Up Our Twice-Exceptional Children for parents & educators. After spending 25+ yrs in the classroom& embarking on this journey w/my 2e son, I discovered 12 strategies that made a difference. These strategies are active and easy #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • cossie29 Feb 15 @ 8:46 PM EST
    Added to my ever-growing reading list... #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:46 PM EST
    Kelly's new book, Boost! https://t.co/gvB9tcWzwC #gtchat #2ekids
  • DahlD Feb 15 @ 8:46 PM EST
    Thank you. I hope it gets a Kindle version. #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:46 PM EST
    It already has one! #gtchat
    In reply to @DahlD, @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:46 PM EST
    A5) Boost encompasses strategies respectful of the twice-exceptional child and recognizes the need to have multiple approaches/tools in the parents’ and teachers’ toolboxes. #gtchat
  • tonyamcenery Feb 15 @ 8:46 PM EST
    Looks like a great resource! #gtchat
  • DahlD Feb 15 @ 8:46 PM EST
    Oh great, I’ll have to look again. Thanks! #gtchat
    In reply to @GiftedHF, @gtchatmod
  • cossie29 Feb 15 @ 8:47 PM EST
    Brilliant! This is what the teachers in our Gifted and Talented FB group have been looking for. I will share it with them. #gtchat
    In reply to @MyTBP, @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:47 PM EST
    2e Twice-Exceptional Newsletter https://t.co/PdKPBxBFKC #gtchat
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:48 PM EST
    Correct link: https://t.co/ltCcRfChZe #gtchat
  • SLauer_ Feb 15 @ 8:48 PM EST
    A5) I think another key piece of this is teaching advocacy to our students: advocate for yourself and for justice and the needs of your peers to create a positive community in schools/classrooms. #gtchat
  • MyTBP Feb 15 @ 8:50 PM EST
    Thank you! #gtchat
    In reply to @cossie29, @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:50 PM EST
    Final question! Please preface your responses with A6) #gtchat
  • cossie29 Feb 15 @ 8:50 PM EST
    Will share this with the group too. Thank you. #gtchat
    In reply to @GiftedHF
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:50 PM EST
    Absolutely! That can be difficult depending on what the "e" is. My son has communication difficulties and while he can communicate his needs, it requires the 'listener' to be open to other channels of communication. #gtchat
    In reply to @SLauer_
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:50 PM EST
    Q6) What training would help educators to support twice-exceptional learners? #gtchat
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:50 PM EST
    A6) They could come live in my house for a week! #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • cossie29 Feb 15 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Just shared. There will be a lot of interest I think as it's come up in discussion frequently. Really excited to read it. #gtchat
    In reply to @MyTBP, @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:51 PM EST
    A6) Educators should have access to professional development which provides information about twice-exceptionality and strategies to engage these students both academically and emotionally. #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:52 PM EST
    A6 I'd love for educators to have deep training on what #2ekids COULD look like. They're all as different as can be, but they gotta know they exist and how it could present in a classroom. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:52 PM EST
    Smart Kids with Learning Difficulties: Overcoming Obstacles and Realizing Potential (Amazon) https://t.co/6MfdcsmYuq #gtchat
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:52 PM EST
    We can arrange bulk orders, too. Email us at info@giftedhomeschoolers.org #gtchat
    In reply to @cossie29, @MyTBP, @gtchatmod
  • lwebster_iteach Feb 15 @ 8:52 PM EST
    #gtchat they are wonder with remarkable strengths and weakness
  • MyTBP Feb 15 @ 8:53 PM EST
    A6) in addition to implementing Boost, educators shod receive training abt seeking our & engaging 2e students. They shod understand the difference betwn gifted students & 2e students.They shld reconsider previous curriculum, thinking& strategies for a better fit #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • cossie29 Feb 15 @ 8:53 PM EST
    I will let them know. :) . Thank you. #gtchat
    In reply to @GiftedHF, @MyTBP, @gtchatmod
  • laughingatchaos Feb 15 @ 8:53 PM EST
    A6 A couple years ago I presented to a "exceptionalities in education" class at Elmhurst College. Gave them the lowdown on #2ekids & parenting & educating. Went over well; I should do it again. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:53 PM EST
    A6) Educators and parent-educators would benefit from learning about best practices in both special education and gifted education. #gtchat
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:53 PM EST
    I'd like them to understand the amazing potential these kids have if they are not being forced into the cookie cutter model. We need divergent thinkers among our adults. #gtchat
    In reply to @laughingatchaos
  • SLauer_ Feb 15 @ 8:54 PM EST
    A6) First, I think all educators should have a fundamental understanding of giftedness. Without that, they won't understand 2e. Then educators need familiarity with exceptionalities, and a foundational belief that these kids can accomplish anything they set their mind to #gtchat
  • edupossiblekim Feb 15 @ 8:54 PM EST
    A6) Explaining what 2e is and giving concrete examples of how to support both aspects of 2e needs (eg: accommodations for challenges as well as advanced content/projects/etc) #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Educating Your Gifted Child: How One Public School Teacher Embraced Homeschooling via GHF Press (Amazon) https://t.co/MFGGQqDkVX #gtchat
  • MyTBP Feb 15 @ 8:55 PM EST
    A6) If educators aren’t offered training, they should seek information on their own so they can teach ALL their students. In addition, they should insist that administrators & support staff are also educated, as their ignorance can damageclassroom progress. #gtchat
  • jofrei Feb 15 @ 8:55 PM EST
    Yes and giftedness and 2e should be included in pre service teacher training to greater extent than it generally is at present #gtchat
    • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:51 PM EST
      A6) Educators should have access to professional development which provides information about twice-exceptionality and strategies to engage these students both academically and emotionally. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:55 PM EST
    We are just about at the end of #gtchat today … Please share your final thoughts and takeaways? #gtchat
  • SLauer_ Feb 15 @ 8:55 PM EST
    This is where having a positive and open-minded classroom community and climate really matter - with understanding peers and teachers anything is possible! #gtchat
    In reply to @GiftedHF
  • tonyamcenery Feb 15 @ 8:55 PM EST
    A6) Love using the movie 2e Twice Exceptional to start conversations #gtchat
  • cossie29 Feb 15 @ 8:56 PM EST
    A6. Understand what giftedness is. Understand what 2e is and then be open to conversations with parents and work as a team, not in opposition to parents as sometimes happens. Keep the focus on the student and their learning and social and emotional needs at all times. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:56 PM EST
    This #gtchat will be archived at @Storify with the link being shared via @gtchatmod later today. More links & a summary of today’s chat will be posted on the #gtchat Blog at https://t.co/eHfXSFEuek #gtchat
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:56 PM EST
    Yes! All instructors at GHF Online https://t.co/Jbvo0HtOQh know we focus on celebrating, not tolerating, quirky, gifted & #2ekids. They know from personal experience. #gtchat
    • cossie29 Feb 15 @ 8:56 PM EST
      A6. Understand what giftedness is. Understand what 2e is and then be open to conversations with parents and work as a team, not in opposition to parents as sometimes happens. Keep the focus on the student and their learning and social and emotional needs at all times. #gtchat
  • lwebster_iteach Feb 15 @ 8:56 PM EST
    #gtchat we have to, to ensure that both the strengths and weakness are being met. Those unaware do not understand or know what to do.
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:56 PM EST
    Thank you to our guest, Kelly Hirt @MyTBP for joining as today as a parent, teacher and author to chat about twice-exceptional children. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:57 PM EST
    Thanks to the always awesome #TAGT team @TxGifted for their continuing support; we couldn’t do it without them! #gtchat
  • MyTBP Feb 15 @ 8:57 PM EST
    It was my pleasure! Thank you! #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:57 PM EST
    Another great book! #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:57 PM EST
    Check out TAGT’s @TXGifted Gifted Plus Equity Conference in June at https://t.co/8yvGxYOSpu which includes 2E sessions and note that they are accepting proposals till Monday 2/18 at https://t.co/jFMbGmnosH #gtchat
  • cossie29 Feb 15 @ 8:57 PM EST
    Celebrating is the best word! All the 2e kids I've taught have made my life so much brighter and richer. Sometimes I think I've learned more from them... #gtchat
    In reply to @GiftedHF
  • tonyamcenery Feb 15 @ 8:58 PM EST
    This needs to continue to be a topic that we talk about! #gtchat
  • GiftedHF Feb 15 @ 8:58 PM EST
    Thanks as always for the great #gtchat, Lisa. And thanks for being here, @MyTBP
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Feb 15 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Our next chat will be on Thursday February 22nd at 8E/7C/6M/5P US and Friday 23rd February at 2 PM NZDT/Noon AEDT/1AM UK. Our topic will be “Using Constraint to Boost Creativity.” #gtchat
  • jofrei Feb 15 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Thank you @MyTBP Kelly Hirt @gtchatmod Lisa and @TXGifted advisory board, sponsors,supporters and everyone for a great #gtchat #gtchat
  • MyTBP Feb 15 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Thank you!! It was an honor! #gtchat
    In reply to @GiftedHF
  • cossie29 Feb 15 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Thank you everyone for a fantastic chat. #gtchat