#ASEchat Archive
The Association for Science Education (ASE) promotes excellence in science teaching and learning. Follow #ASEchat Mondays at 3pm ET.
Monday November 28, 2016
3:00 PM EST
ViciaScience
Nov 28 @ 3:00 PM EST
Thanks Steve!
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stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 2:59 PM EST
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team was ready to cover
In reply to @NeedhamL56
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:01 PM EST
So as we approach the end of term what strategies have you used to build your team of scientists (In your class) or in your school?
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TJohns85
Nov 28 @ 3:01 PM EST
Well
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#scichat
do you use sulfur or sulphur? RT
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:02 PM EST
Science lessons can support students to work as a team, particularly if you allocate roles during a discussion or an investigation
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robvswift
Nov 28 @ 3:04 PM EST
@NeedhamL56
What roles to you typically assign, or does it depend on the investigation?
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In reply to @NeedhamL56
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:04 PM EST
Different aspects : teamwork, developing trust : and problem solving, what examples can you share that have helped team building?
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stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 3:04 PM EST
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but we need to teach, model, support and help them develop those roles, how?
In reply to @NeedhamL56
ViciaScience
Nov 28 @ 3:05 PM EST
Needs managing. Sometimes investigations are more like competitions to see who handles kit
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In reply to @NeedhamL56
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:05 PM EST
recorder, gofer, assembler, evaluator (who watches with a clipboard) for ways in which the ‘team could do better, H & S,
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In reply to @robvswift
stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 3:06 PM EST
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or do you debrief role usage after investigation/ problem solving task?
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NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:06 PM EST
or who sits on a chair watching not getting involved
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In reply to @ViciaScience
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:07 PM EST
Exactly, so that everyone develops understanding of the role for when they get that job
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#rotates
stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 3:06 PM EST
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or do you debrief role usage after investigation/ problem solving task?
In reply to @NeedhamL56
ViciaScience
Nov 28 @ 3:07 PM EST
So wuld you advocate mixed sex groupings or let pupils decide group structure?
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In reply to @NeedhamL56
stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 3:07 PM EST
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or are they involved at a distance taking it all in? How to check?
In reply to @NeedhamL56, @ViciaScience
robvswift
Nov 28 @ 3:07 PM EST
Explain, then ask for student volunteers to model, then debrief, then activity
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In reply to @stevethedoc1, @NeedhamL56
ViciaScience
Nov 28 @ 3:08 PM EST
Are you joining in with
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? Don't forget hashtag
PhysNova
Nov 28 @ 3:06 PM EST
You can't do both at the same time well enough. Prioritise staff who will then lead all of the students along with you
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hat
stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 3:08 PM EST
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yes, everyone should work with everyone at least once in the year
In reply to @ViciaScience, @NeedhamL56
Rendcombbiology
Nov 28 @ 3:08 PM EST
I have used talk cards, which explain roles for each member and give prompts
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NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:09 PM EST
I’d always decide on group structure, but then I’m a control freak!
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and I’d explain why I was choosing
ViciaScience
Nov 28 @ 3:07 PM EST
So wuld you advocate mixed sex groupings or let pupils decide group structure?
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In reply to @NeedhamL56
robvswift
Nov 28 @ 3:09 PM EST
So, what do you do with the evaluator info? Share w/ class or use it to inform future activities...?
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In reply to @NeedhamL56
hrogerson
Nov 28 @ 3:09 PM EST
Sometimes write instructions for specific responsibility during teamwork to ensure the students' responsibilities are clear.
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NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:09 PM EST
This works well for developing literacy too! bonus
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Rendcombbiology
Nov 28 @ 3:08 PM EST
I have used talk cards, which explain roles for each member and give prompts
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FergusonMr1
Nov 28 @ 3:09 PM EST
When surveyed lots of our KS4 students said they had NEVER worked in a team but that they do lots of group work
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In reply to @NeedhamL56
hrogerson
Nov 28 @ 3:10 PM EST
I can't quite take that approach in the department. I just have to try and talk to each other a lot.
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A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:10 PM EST
we're not discussing group work on Twitter are we ?
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*runs for cover* *tin hat*
In reply to @stevethedoc1, @ViciaScience, @NeedhamL56
ViciaScience
Nov 28 @ 3:11 PM EST
So keeping group structure may lead to some groups being very effective, or better to keep mixing?
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In reply to @stevethedoc1, @NeedhamL56
hrogerson
Nov 28 @ 3:11 PM EST
I think a strong science department always suffers because they can be intimidating to SLT. Once had our coffee room taken away!! 😩
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NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:11 PM EST
Both, evaluator feedback to group, and they decide what they could do to improve, next time someone else is evaluator, saves T time
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robvswift
Nov 28 @ 3:09 PM EST
So, what do you do with the evaluator info? Share w/ class or use it to inform future activities...?
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In reply to @NeedhamL56
PhysNova
Nov 28 @ 3:11 PM EST
This is a great way to show info based seating plans / groupings. Just review regularly.
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NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:09 PM EST
I’d always decide on group structure, but then I’m a control freak!
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and I’d explain why I was choosing
ViciaScience
Nov 28 @ 3:07 PM EST
So wuld you advocate mixed sex groupings or let pupils decide group structure?
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In reply to @NeedhamL56
hrogerson
Nov 28 @ 3:11 PM EST
Really interesting distinction!
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FergusonMr1
Nov 28 @ 3:09 PM EST
When surveyed lots of our KS4 students said they had NEVER worked in a team but that they do lots of group work
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In reply to @NeedhamL56
hrogerson
Nov 28 @ 3:12 PM EST
TEAM WORK!
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In reply to @A_Weatherall, @stevethedoc1, @ViciaScience, @NeedhamL56
stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 3:12 PM EST
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NO, team building!!
In reply to @A_Weatherall, @ViciaScience, @NeedhamL56
ViciaScience
Nov 28 @ 3:12 PM EST
Discussing team building which includes, but not exclusively, group work
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In reply to @A_Weatherall, @stevethedoc1, @NeedhamL56
robvswift
Nov 28 @ 3:12 PM EST
At the very least, you have to have a 'talker' someone to keep the conversation going
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In reply to @ViciaScience, @stevethedoc1, @NeedhamL56
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:13 PM EST
wow that’s a brilliant e.g. of us needing to make explicit the skills of a team approach.
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what do others think?
FergusonMr1
Nov 28 @ 3:09 PM EST
When surveyed lots of our KS4 students said they had NEVER worked in a team but that they do lots of group work
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In reply to @NeedhamL56
FergusonMr1
Nov 28 @ 3:13 PM EST
@NeedhamL56
Yeah it surprised me. I have emphasised teamwork since then. "Working in your team.." instead of groups.
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In reply to @hrogerson, @NeedhamL56
ViciaScience
Nov 28 @ 3:13 PM EST
This works well in 'debates' where pupils given specific roles
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In reply to @Rendcombbiology
stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 3:13 PM EST
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agreed, so sometimes give questions for talker to ask during task
In reply to @robvswift, @ViciaScience, @NeedhamL56
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:13 PM EST
all right keep your hair on :)
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In reply to @hrogerson, @stevethedoc1, @ViciaScience, @NeedhamL56
stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 3:14 PM EST
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too late!
In reply to @A_Weatherall, @hrogerson, @ViciaScience, @NeedhamL56
ViciaScience
Nov 28 @ 3:16 PM EST
Alex - are you suffering from a depleted team at the moment? (WE tweets)
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In reply to @A_Weatherall, @hrogerson, @stevethedoc1, @NeedhamL56
robvswift
Nov 28 @ 3:16 PM EST
Sure I was thinking of a natural talker, but then there's the issue of keeping them on task
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In reply to @stevethedoc1, @ViciaScience, @NeedhamL56
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:16 PM EST
aargh Ive lost a tweet! slow down eek
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it’s that
@A_Weatherall
dissing group work ;)
In reply to @A_Weatherall
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:18 PM EST
we do group work every lesson. Whole class group work ;)
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In reply to @NeedhamL56
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:18 PM EST
I’m sure the CBI will say that students leaving school do not have the skills to work in a team, science great vehicle
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stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 3:18 PM EST
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and I thought that podcast thing was a group/ team effort
In reply to @NeedhamL56, @A_Weatherall
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:19 PM EST
that's very much a partnership.
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In reply to @stevethedoc1, @NeedhamL56
robvswift
Nov 28 @ 3:19 PM EST
What do you do with podcasts?
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In reply to @stevethedoc1, @NeedhamL56, @A_Weatherall
ViciaScience
Nov 28 @ 3:19 PM EST
Do you have a view on optimum group size for conducting, say, series circuit experiments?
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In reply to @A_Weatherall, @NeedhamL56
ViciaScience
Nov 28 @ 3:20 PM EST
Good luck. And how will you help new person fit into your team?
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FergusonMr1
Nov 28 @ 3:18 PM EST
team isn't depleted at the minute. And we will hopefully fill vacancy
In reply to @ViciaScience, @A_Weatherall, @hrogerson, @stevethedoc1, @NeedhamL56
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:20 PM EST
check out
@theEDfiles
. One and a half hours of your life you won't regret
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In reply to @robvswift, @stevethedoc1, @NeedhamL56, @theEDfiles
stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 3:20 PM EST
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OK let's talk artnership building in and through science
In reply to @A_Weatherall, @NeedhamL56
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:21 PM EST
practical work? In a science lesson? Pfnaaa :)
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(Sorry in a daft mood - very tired)
In reply to @ViciaScience, @NeedhamL56
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:22 PM EST
Nicely done, think we have just flipped to
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ting about developing the team of teachers in your school that teach science Pri or Sec
stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 3:23 PM EST
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doughnuts!?
In reply to @FergusonMr1, @ViciaScience, @A_Weatherall, @hrogerson, @NeedhamL56
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:23 PM EST
and a good SOW.
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:)
In reply to @FergusonMr1, @ViciaScience, @hrogerson, @stevethedoc1, @NeedhamL56
ViciaScience
Nov 28 @ 3:23 PM EST
Can be hard for 'new person' to fit into an existing strong team
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#outsider
In reply to @FergusonMr1, @A_Weatherall, @stevethedoc1, @NeedhamL56
FergusonMr1
Nov 28 @ 3:24 PM EST
Good, clear organised SoW and a clear schedule to make it easy
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In reply to @A_Weatherall, @ViciaScience, @hrogerson, @stevethedoc1, @NeedhamL56
ViciaScience
Nov 28 @ 3:24 PM EST
Agreed - well documented procedures help get people up to speed. Let them suggest changes?
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FergusonMr1
Nov 28 @ 3:21 PM EST
@A_Weatherall
@hrogerson
@stevethedoc1
@NeedhamL56
....we have good systems in place departmentally so that should help...
In reply to @ViciaScience, @A_Weatherall, @hrogerson, @stevethedoc1, @NeedhamL56
FergusonMr1
Nov 28 @ 3:24 PM EST
True. But has to be easier than a struggling team?
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In reply to @ViciaScience, @A_Weatherall, @stevethedoc1, @NeedhamL56
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:24 PM EST
that's me that is.
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I just went in with an annoying attitude. They all hate me😉
In reply to @ViciaScience, @FergusonMr1, @stevethedoc1, @NeedhamL56
Rendcombbiology
Nov 28 @ 3:24 PM EST
Allowing individuals in the team to express own area of interest,
https://t.co/9cuMvTLclO
. and then all members supporting them
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stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 3:25 PM EST
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but equally new pupil team member on switching make up of pupil teams/ partnerships
In reply to @NeedhamL56
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:25 PM EST
:) it's not rocket science
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In reply to @FergusonMr1, @ViciaScience, @hrogerson, @stevethedoc1, @NeedhamL56
FergusonMr1
Nov 28 @ 3:25 PM EST
@A_Weatherall
@hrogerson
@stevethedoc1
@NeedhamL56
I'd like to think we have a culture of dialogue and openness
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In reply to @ViciaScience, @A_Weatherall, @hrogerson, @stevethedoc1, @NeedhamL56
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:25 PM EST
How do you ensure effective communication? most teams fall apart without it
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also develops trust if everyone u/stands comms
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:25 PM EST
er.
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In reply to @FergusonMr1, @ViciaScience, @hrogerson, @stevethedoc1, @NeedhamL56
stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 3:26 PM EST
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does there have to be one in every team???!!!
In reply to @A_Weatherall, @ViciaScience, @FergusonMr1, @NeedhamL56
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:26 PM EST
What is in place to make this happen effectively? does it just evolve? what pitfalls do you avoid?
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FergusonMr1
Nov 28 @ 3:25 PM EST
@A_Weatherall
@hrogerson
@stevethedoc1
@NeedhamL56
I'd like to think we have a culture of dialogue and openness
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In reply to @ViciaScience, @A_Weatherall, @hrogerson, @stevethedoc1, @NeedhamL56
ViciaScience
Nov 28 @ 3:26 PM EST
And getting to know new people can be hard in the hurly burly of day to day teaching. Need to plan 'social opps'
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FergusonMr1
Nov 28 @ 3:23 PM EST
@A_Weatherall
@hrogerson
@stevethedoc1
@NeedhamL56
... supportive colleagues, good shared resources, sociable in workroom etc
In reply to @ViciaScience, @A_Weatherall, @hrogerson, @stevethedoc1, @NeedhamL56
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:26 PM EST
it's usually me :)
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In reply to @stevethedoc1, @ViciaScience, @FergusonMr1, @NeedhamL56
SKLchem
Nov 28 @ 3:27 PM EST
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effective comms - weekly newsletter for admin, reflection & cpd; whiteboards in office for more urgent info
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robvswift
Nov 28 @ 3:27 PM EST
True. Our department has annual weekend outings. Nice team building stuff
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In reply to @ViciaScience
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:27 PM EST
and now we're cooking on gas... with an occasional burning smell
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In reply to @FergusonMr1, @ViciaScience, @stevethedoc1, @NeedhamL56
FergusonMr1
Nov 28 @ 3:27 PM EST
@ViciaScience
@A_Weatherall
@hrogerson
@stevethedoc1
Dept meeting time dedicated to sharing practice
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In reply to @NeedhamL56, @ViciaScience, @A_Weatherall, @hrogerson, @stevethedoc1
ViciaScience
Nov 28 @ 3:27 PM EST
Absolutely! Just making the point successful teams cannot afford complacency
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In reply to @FergusonMr1, @A_Weatherall, @stevethedoc1, @NeedhamL56
FergusonMr1
Nov 28 @ 3:27 PM EST
@ViciaScience
@A_Weatherall
@hrogerson
@stevethedoc1
If we can consult on a decision we do
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In reply to @NeedhamL56, @ViciaScience, @A_Weatherall, @hrogerson, @stevethedoc1
FergusonMr1
Nov 28 @ 3:28 PM EST
@ViciaScience
@A_Weatherall
@hrogerson
@stevethedoc1
NQT-UPS-TLR holders all listened too
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In reply to @NeedhamL56, @ViciaScience, @A_Weatherall, @hrogerson, @stevethedoc1
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:29 PM EST
Do you need a strong leader to develop the team or do they do it by themselves?
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SKLchem
Nov 28 @ 3:29 PM EST
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- also have student quote of the week board - this can be hysterical - Y8:is tuna a fish? - thought it came from cows!
In reply to @NeedhamL56
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:29 PM EST
no one "knows best".
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In reply to @FergusonMr1, @NeedhamL56, @ViciaScience, @hrogerson, @stevethedoc1
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:29 PM EST
Thank you! we were thinking the same thing :)
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FergusonMr1
Nov 28 @ 3:28 PM EST
@ViciaScience
@A_Weatherall
@hrogerson
@stevethedoc1
pitfall is talking shop and no action. But HoD is strong and decisive
In reply to @NeedhamL56, @ViciaScience, @A_Weatherall, @hrogerson, @stevethedoc1
edubabbIe
Nov 28 @ 3:30 PM EST
Statistics and the Labor Market.
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Rendcombbiology
Nov 28 @ 3:30 PM EST
Yes but leadership styles are so diverse a strong leader doesn't have to be autocratic
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A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:30 PM EST
absolutely. :) I mean who'd want to hold back when telling me what for.
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In reply to @ViciaScience, @FergusonMr1, @stevethedoc1, @NeedhamL56
FergusonMr1
Nov 28 @ 3:30 PM EST
@ViciaScience
@A_Weatherall
@hrogerson
@stevethedoc1
Also, using your teams strengths
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In reply to @NeedhamL56, @ViciaScience, @A_Weatherall, @hrogerson, @stevethedoc1
cleverfiend
Nov 28 @ 3:30 PM EST
1st repost New post:
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The latest from Ofqual on 1-9
https://t.co/GeASlUE3iI
hrogerson
Nov 28 @ 3:31 PM EST
Key to effective science department team is the technician support. Can make or break.
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ViciaScience
Nov 28 @ 3:31 PM EST
We used to have more opportunities for social events in staffroom - curry club, 5 a side, weekend trips, running club
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robvswift
Nov 28 @ 3:27 PM EST
True. Our department has annual weekend outings. Nice team building stuff
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In reply to @ViciaScience
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:31 PM EST
don't you mean individuals' strengths :)
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In reply to @FergusonMr1, @NeedhamL56, @ViciaScience, @hrogerson, @stevethedoc1
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:31 PM EST
This was turning point for me, thought it was just for fun. Relationships develop & trust happens with extra curic for students too
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robvswift
Nov 28 @ 3:27 PM EST
True. Our department has annual weekend outings. Nice team building stuff
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In reply to @ViciaScience
FergusonMr1
Nov 28 @ 3:32 PM EST
Sorry, individuals within the team.
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In reply to @A_Weatherall, @NeedhamL56, @ViciaScience, @hrogerson, @stevethedoc1
Rendcombbiology
Nov 28 @ 3:32 PM EST
Couldn't agree more! Great technicians are invaluable and need to made part of the team not just teaching staff
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In reply to @hrogerson
hrogerson
Nov 28 @ 3:32 PM EST
Clear vision and focused on development not change for the sake of it. Strong leadership doesn't mean good leadership.
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NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:29 PM EST
Do you need a strong leader to develop the team or do they do it by themselves?
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A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:32 PM EST
tee hee
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In reply to @FergusonMr1, @NeedhamL56, @ViciaScience, @hrogerson, @stevethedoc1
stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 3:33 PM EST
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especially the new style pupil technicians emerging in Primary
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stuartphysics
Nov 28 @ 3:33 PM EST
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@hrogerson
see research by McNicholl, Childs, Burn on importance of coffee room for teachers learning pedagogical content knowledge
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A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:33 PM EST
so
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who wants to work with
@FergusonMr1
( and me )
In reply to @NeedhamL56, @ViciaScience, @hrogerson, @stevethedoc1, @FergusonMr1
hrogerson
Nov 28 @ 3:33 PM EST
sometimes tricky balance due to outside influences. But we're getting it right at the moment.
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In reply to @Rendcombbiology
FergusonMr1
Nov 28 @ 3:33 PM EST
@NeedhamL56
Vision is key
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then communicating that vision
In reply to @hrogerson, @NeedhamL56
ViciaScience
Nov 28 @ 3:34 PM EST
Can recommend reading around leadership styles - lots of literature - but no one style fits all circumstance
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Rendcombbiology
Nov 28 @ 3:30 PM EST
Yes but leadership styles are so diverse a strong leader doesn't have to be autocratic
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rbegum2013
Nov 28 @ 3:34 PM EST
@NeedhamL56
yes transparency with staff should be important
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In reply to @hrogerson, @NeedhamL56
stormeducation
Nov 28 @ 3:34 PM EST
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lol
@ViciaScience
5 a side in the staffroom must have been a lot of fun!
In reply to @ViciaScience
corsham_science
Nov 28 @ 3:34 PM EST
great techs make everything so much easier!
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In reply to @hrogerson
hrogerson
Nov 28 @ 3:35 PM EST
husband was a massive influence in the coffee room of the department I first worked in.
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In reply to @stuartphysics
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:35 PM EST
"A good leader makes people belief they did it by themselves" :) other quotes here
https://t.co/IsbVa6RBvM
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Rendcombbiology
Nov 28 @ 3:30 PM EST
Yes but leadership styles are so diverse a strong leader doesn't have to be autocratic
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stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 3:35 PM EST
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now that is a serious ask!
In reply to @A_Weatherall, @NeedhamL56, @ViciaScience, @hrogerson, @FergusonMr1
robvswift
Nov 28 @ 3:35 PM EST
You can't have effective change w/o buy in from everybody - transparency is a good start
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In reply to @rbegum2013, @hrogerson, @NeedhamL56
ViciaScience
Nov 28 @ 3:35 PM EST
I would add others to that list, inc lunch staff and cleaning staff
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In reply to @Rendcombbiology, @hrogerson
stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 3:36 PM EST
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especially given size of most staff rooms for science
In reply to @stormeducation, @ViciaScience
Rendcombbiology
Nov 28 @ 3:36 PM EST
Great to hear, keep fighting for your coffee room. We have Bio Bistro (bacon sarnies) on a Saturday morning
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In reply to @hrogerson
hrogerson
Nov 28 @ 3:36 PM EST
good point. If staff understand 'why' there is less dissent and more cooperation.
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In reply to @rbegum2013, @NeedhamL56
PhysNova
Nov 28 @ 3:37 PM EST
Recently took four of team to
#asenorthconf
in Sheffield. Great way to get to know team. Drank winning prossecco on train to Mcr
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NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:31 PM EST
This was turning point for me, thought it was just for fun. Relationships develop & trust happens with extra curic for students too
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robvswift
Nov 28 @ 3:27 PM EST
True. Our department has annual weekend outings. Nice team building stuff
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In reply to @ViciaScience
rbegum2013
Nov 28 @ 3:37 PM EST
@Rendcombbiology
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good leaders develop staff and allows mistakes to happen
In reply to @NeedhamL56, @teambonding, @Rendcombbiology
Rendcombbiology
Nov 28 @ 3:37 PM EST
Just starting MEd in Education Leadership so would appreciate any reading recommendation?
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In reply to @ViciaScience
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:37 PM EST
Hey
@rbegum2013
hello! i’m not picking up your tweets. Please use the
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thanks
In reply to @rbegum2013
robvswift
Nov 28 @ 3:38 PM EST
Should be a two-way conversation though, staff should vet leadership and vice versa
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In reply to @hrogerson, @rbegum2013, @NeedhamL56
ViciaScience
Nov 28 @ 3:38 PM EST
became quite competitive and resulted in a few injuries. Fond memories.Skateboarding in staffroom too (confiscated)
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In reply to @stormeducation
rbegum2013
Nov 28 @ 3:38 PM EST
#asechat
but some see it as weak leadership
In reply to @robvswift, @hrogerson, @NeedhamL56
hrogerson
Nov 28 @ 3:38 PM EST
the removal of the coffee room was two schools ago. Horrible place to work.
#asechat
In reply to @Rendcombbiology
rbegum2013
Nov 28 @ 3:39 PM EST
I thought I was
#asechat
In reply to @NeedhamL56
FergusonMr1
Nov 28 @ 3:39 PM EST
Got to be human and fallible
#ASEChat
In reply to @rbegum2013, @robvswift, @hrogerson, @NeedhamL56
ViciaScience
Nov 28 @ 3:39 PM EST
And many techs are holders of the PCK needed to run practical classes
#ASEChat
Do you provide them with CPD?
robvswift
Nov 28 @ 3:39 PM EST
Maybe so, but who wants to work with a dictator?
#ASEChat
In reply to @rbegum2013, @hrogerson, @NeedhamL56
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:39 PM EST
Brilliant! it was great to see you all there “wine popping emoji”
#asechat
PhysNova
Nov 28 @ 3:37 PM EST
Recently took four of team to
#asenorthconf
in Sheffield. Great way to get to know team. Drank winning prossecco on train to Mcr
#asechat
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:31 PM EST
This was turning point for me, thought it was just for fun. Relationships develop & trust happens with extra curic for students too
#asechat
robvswift
Nov 28 @ 3:27 PM EST
True. Our department has annual weekend outings. Nice team building stuff
#ASEChat
In reply to @ViciaScience
stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 3:40 PM EST
#asechat
not an attempt to develop whole school team?
In reply to @hrogerson, @Rendcombbiology
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:40 PM EST
sorry! its a bit fast must have missed your tweet couldn’t follow the thread
#ASEChat
In reply to @rbegum2013
Newmanphysics
Nov 28 @ 3:40 PM EST
Cutting scotch egg in half a good model for crust mantle core. Showing pumice float from all the gasses (aero effect)
#asechat
In reply to @lilac_rose16
rbegum2013
Nov 28 @ 3:41 PM EST
#ASEChat
leaders should give new teachers confidence about themselves, kindness does not cost
In reply to @FergusonMr1, @robvswift, @hrogerson, @NeedhamL56
ViciaScience
Nov 28 @ 3:41 PM EST
Brilliant! Need more prizes like that for next years N Conf
#ASEChat
PhysNova
Nov 28 @ 3:37 PM EST
Recently took four of team to
#asenorthconf
in Sheffield. Great way to get to know team. Drank winning prossecco on train to Mcr
#asechat
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:31 PM EST
This was turning point for me, thought it was just for fun. Relationships develop & trust happens with extra curic for students too
#asechat
robvswift
Nov 28 @ 3:27 PM EST
True. Our department has annual weekend outings. Nice team building stuff
#ASEChat
In reply to @ViciaScience
anhalf
Nov 28 @ 3:41 PM EST
YES! I was lucky to go to
#hESA2016
spacecamp- best thing ever and doing loads more science with class this year
#asechat
#primaryrocks
ictlinks
Nov 28 @ 3:37 PM EST
A3 take something you have a passion for and run an activity with a group of children. If that fails join
#PrimaryRocks
hrogerson
Nov 28 @ 3:42 PM EST
Love that
@rbegum2013
'kindness does not cost'.
#leadership
#ASEchat
In reply to @rbegum2013
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:42 PM EST
OK last 10 mins or so, whats special about SCIENCE that helps us develop a proper team approach?
#asechat
some ideas here are generic
stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 3:42 PM EST
#asechat
does cost but payback leaves you in profit
In reply to @rbegum2013, @FergusonMr1, @robvswift, @hrogerson, @NeedhamL56
rbegum2013
Nov 28 @ 3:42 PM EST
#ASEchat
new teachers don't know seen lots of leaders use that as weakness and cause unnecessary stress
In reply to @robvswift, @hrogerson, @NeedhamL56
hrogerson
Nov 28 @ 3:42 PM EST
I also think that leading via email is terrible. Speak to people face to face... go see them.
#ASEchat
rbegum2013
Nov 28 @ 3:43 PM EST
#ASEchat
so true sometime just go and see them probably
In reply to @hrogerson
hrogerson
Nov 28 @ 3:43 PM EST
Teamwork in the science department is all about the preproom atmosphere for me
@NeedhamL56
#ASEchat
In reply to @NeedhamL56
FergusonMr1
Nov 28 @ 3:44 PM EST
Work across specialisms so teamwork is essential
#ASEchat
In reply to @NeedhamL56
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:44 PM EST
and how does a primary science subject leader get the rest of the school loving science and working as a team?
#ASEChat
PhysNova
Nov 28 @ 3:44 PM EST
It does not matter about the size of your school but you must speak to every member of the team every day.
#ASEChat
Please don't use email.
hrogerson
Nov 28 @ 3:42 PM EST
I also think that leading via email is terrible. Speak to people face to face... go see them.
#ASEchat
LessonToolbox
Nov 28 @ 3:45 PM EST
Learning progression map for atomic structure lesson. Editable dwnld ->
https://t.co/AEvo64w5SG
#asechat
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:45 PM EST
we often have a separate workroom to develop a team spirit
#ASEChat
other depts less lucky.
In reply to @FergusonMr1, @NeedhamL56
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:45 PM EST
Yes I think other subjects are jealous of our preproom antics
#asechat
hrogerson
Nov 28 @ 3:43 PM EST
Teamwork in the science department is all about the preproom atmosphere for me
@NeedhamL56
#ASEchat
In reply to @NeedhamL56
stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 3:45 PM EST
#asechat
just show that you love it
In reply to @NeedhamL56
rbegum2013
Nov 28 @ 3:46 PM EST
#ASEchat
supporting each other for me and not fear of making mistake what ever level
In reply to @hrogerson, @NeedhamL56
hrogerson
Nov 28 @ 3:46 PM EST
practising our Christmas 'turn' in there this afternoon!
#asechat
In reply to @NeedhamL56
FergusonMr1
Nov 28 @ 3:47 PM EST
Really enjoyed
#ASEChat
tonight and reflecting on teamwork (pupils and staff), leadership, management, vision and building a team.
stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 3:47 PM EST
#asechat
''tis the only thing in life that matters
In reply to @NeedhamL56
hrogerson
Nov 28 @ 3:47 PM EST
Oh no! I have heard the answer to this, but can't remember what she said.
#asechat
but ultimately do PSQM!
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:44 PM EST
and how does a primary science subject leader get the rest of the school loving science and working as a team?
#ASEChat
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:47 PM EST
this demonstrates TRUST without which the team cannot develop and grow
#asechat
(OK to ask for help, OK to make a mistake)
#asechat
rbegum2013
Nov 28 @ 3:46 PM EST
#ASEchat
supporting each other for me and not fear of making mistake what ever level
In reply to @hrogerson, @NeedhamL56
danielharvey9
Nov 28 @ 3:48 PM EST
with time and support from HT and SLT but also with a coherent science curriculum and process for teaching.
#ASEChat
In reply to @NeedhamL56
hrogerson
Nov 28 @ 3:49 PM EST
Thanks
@NeedhamL56
I have to dip out before the end. Lots and lots of things to do tonight.
#ASEchat
In reply to @NeedhamL56
stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 3:49 PM EST
@NeedhamL56
#asechat
show them that it is the only thing that matters to subject leader
In reply to @hrogerson, @NeedhamL56
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:49 PM EST
So leaders showing support for science in the primary curriculum gives the Subject leader a leg up, they cant do this alone?
#asechat
danielharvey9
Nov 28 @ 3:48 PM EST
with time and support from HT and SLT but also with a coherent science curriculum and process for teaching.
#ASEChat
In reply to @NeedhamL56
stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 3:50 PM EST
#asechat
we understand as we are that kind of understanding team
In reply to @hrogerson, @NeedhamL56
Rendcombbiology
Nov 28 @ 3:52 PM EST
Really enjoying my first
#ASEChat
will be a regular participant
@RendcombCollege
@theASE
In reply to @RendcombCollege, @theASE
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:52 PM EST
Science really is the best subject to lead so many opportunities to build the teaching team, and enable student team work
#asechat
#lovingit
stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 3:54 PM EST
#asechat
be careful in primary too often that results in move to lead minor areas of lit or nun
In reply to @NeedhamL56
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:54 PM EST
Either my tweet deck has exploded with the number of
#asechat
tweets tonight, or we’ve come to a natural end. Thanks everyone!
stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 3:55 PM EST
#asechat
have you asked the team?
In reply to @NeedhamL56
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:56 PM EST
Come back next week welcome on board
#asechat
Rendcombbiology
Nov 28 @ 3:52 PM EST
Really enjoying my first
#ASEChat
will be a regular participant
@RendcombCollege
@theASE
In reply to @RendcombCollege, @theASE
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 3:57 PM EST
I’ll ask
@viciascience
to do an archive of the tweets from tonight, some great ideas for developing teams in science
#ASEChat
In reply to @ViciaScience
stevethedoc1
Nov 28 @ 3:58 PM EST
#asechat
ask him to help make the archive, in spirit of team building etc
In reply to @NeedhamL56, @ViciaScience
chemDrK
Nov 28 @ 3:59 PM EST
@Rendcombbiology
@theASE
its always at kids' bedtime for me, so can't join in 😞 but always enjoy reading afterwards 😃
#ASEChat
In reply to @NeedhamL56, @Rendcombbiology, @theASE