#IEedchat Archive
#IEedchat is a great way for Inland Empire (California) educators to share teaching strategies, educational resources, and more.
Monday October 17, 2016
10:30 PM EDT
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Q4: What should Middle schoolers (grade 6-8) be doing to look ahead for college material? How can educators help?
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A3: I'd keep it simple and ask them "What do you want to be when you're older?" and then help them make a plan.
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A4: We need to upgrade the level of rigor in our coursework at the middle school level. High school is a shock for many Freshman.
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A3: I'd talk to k-5 Ss about the good experiences I had in college using personal stories. Let them know u had fun learning
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A2: Overcoming the idea that "I have to have a 4.3 GPA" to go to college. Ss compare themselves to others and give up too easily
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https://t.co/8Z8XlcFBD8
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A1: I didn't take college seriously until I found myself w/ wife & kids & low job prospects. Reality hit then.
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kids love hearing our personal stories! Great way to connect with our students as well!
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A4: I like what we did with the 7th graders last yr. We looked at income for their future job, talked about taxes & budgets...
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A4: Affirming the varied and diverse interest of adolescents is the first step to getting them excited about career.
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MSs should be finetuning general area of interest and how to prepare in high school for furture training in that area.
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A3: Empowering our little ones to dream big & encourage them to follow their dreams. Early college & career exposure is key.
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A2: Getting students to see themselves in college. No barriers by race or money.
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that's crazy, my daughter has to keep a high grade to stay in her major-super competitive https://t.co/5dbCfftSXd
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A2: Overcoming the idea that "I have to have a 4.3 GPA" to go to college. Ss compare themselves to others and give up too easily
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A4: I remember looking at careers, and especially what math was required for various careers in middle grades
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All that's true, and students who choose non-college can do so without a stigma from Ts.
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A4: Ts should share college stories with Ss. Their faces are priceless when they hear they have to write 24 page papers
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A4: MS Ss can look at professions w/ & w/o a college degree, build a life budget and have discussions around these choices.
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A4:looking back as an educator now,
just informing Ss of diff kinds of colleges, and where they are is a big deal.
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A4: being deliberate with making connections 2 college and career with content. Kids need relevance May help them decide a career.
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Yes. We need to share our stories.
https://t.co/5rfWkJnpCP
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A4: Ts should share college stories with Ss. Their faces are priceless when they hear they have to write 24 page papers
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A4 I think upping the level of creation. Ss get comfortable with "tell me the answer"
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I love this idea. Having a love of learning is so important!
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Q3: Making them believe in themselves. Teach that obstacles can be overcome. Value of a degree in dollars and lifestyle.
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A4: I'm all for field trips, get them outside their community, get them to see another environment, diff worlds
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Very true!
This hits hard,after going2my wife's commencement this weekend
Shes been going to college on/off 10yrs
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A4: As a 10 year AVID coordinator, I think AVID is a great start. Promote college/career awareness school wide.
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It's important to teach Ss resilience. Mistakes will not define you unless you allow them to keep you for moving forward.
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Q5: Note quite Srs: 9-11. What are some preparations Ss & Ts can do for post-secondary life? Share what you're doing for
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A4: MS Ss research a career, learn what it takes to reach a career of interest and begin planning
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The best thing I could impart to my students is that everyone has their own timeline.
https://t.co/Sn2B6a7KO0
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Very true!
This hits hard,after going2my wife's commencement this weekend
Shes been going to college on/off 10yrs
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AVID does have a lot of great structure focusing on college and such after high school.
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A4 also reinforce the you won't always graduate in 4 yrs mentality. Most these days dont
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A4: Middle Schoolers should be fully HS ready. Ready for Alg I and strive for Proficient scores in English & work on organization.
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need to provide as many opportunities as possible for exploration. Ss are curious, just need time to explore!
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A4: I think that does a good job with a bit of a reality check. Job, cars, mortgage, etc…
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For reals!
https://t.co/e1CrBVAko4
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The best thing I could impart to my students is that everyone has their own timeline.
https://t.co/Sn2B6a7KO0
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Very true!
This hits hard,after going2my wife's commencement this weekend
Shes been going to college on/off 10yrs
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Yes! Keep moving forward, if you fall get up, you will succeed unless you stop trying. https://t.co/LMPdH8oJP5
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It's important to teach Ss resilience. Mistakes will not define you unless you allow them to keep you for moving forward.
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A5: We should be providing more intern opportunities. Tons of opportunities.
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Visit schools & jobs. And talk to people.
Get first hand look at as many things as possible. Really helps in making choices.
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A4: Ts should design proficiency-based graded experiences that cause MS Ss to become more resilient learners and thinkers
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A3 take a look at what did last week. Each class researched a college, created a chant, and… https://t.co/TsYwVOXsZz
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Teach students to use their social circles to support their learning. How to create group help - great skill to have for college.
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I didn't graduate college until I was 32, always tell Ss that they may change their mind
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A5 alumni connections help out so much
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A5 Ss need to see feel experience college campuses b4 making decision... so much education happens outside of class
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I'm glad you jumped on with pics. It would have been creepy if I'd have stole and posted them!
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Love this! I want to visit next year with the little ones!
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A5: For KOTC this Wednesday, Freshman will research/explore careers, complete an interest inventory and create a 4-year plan.
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Personal experience?
Do you feel like alumni had an effect on you (in HS)?
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A4: MS Ss should develop an awareness of going to College, but should be nurtured to develop an inquisitive and open mind.
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A4: MS Ss need real & meaningful convos with their Ts about the realities of college life & the obstacles they have overcome.
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A5: help Ss with career exploration. There are so many careers that are fascinating but are often overlooked
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A5: "What's Nexr?" CSU Expository Srs. lessons this Wed, Jrs., digital citizenship lessons with Srs. today-everyday counts
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A5: I think real-life money, household scenarios. Bring back robot babies & home economic classes for both boys & girls!
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Definitely.
I noticed how I gravitated toward the smaller campuses. Made big changes in my decisions b/c of it.
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More visits to not just the "popular" schools. There is a campus for all kids, just need to find the match
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A5 I found lessons online that promote budgets, coping skills, living with a roommate, time management etc.
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A5: As many college visits as possible! Field trips - even virtual - are great too!
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A5: work at Starbucks - they pay (in full) for your ASU degree! while you live and ride bike to work and save a boatload of cash
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A5: provide as many opportunities to experience college and career choices. Love that vocational courses are making a comeback
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A5. People now have multiple careers. I am on career number 3. No one would have ever thought about me in education SURPRISE!
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Roommates
something people really need to experience. So many life lessons.
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so much I would do different as a teacher now. Everyday is an opportunity!
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Okay....off topic....I'm loving this "chat" thing which is new to me. You guys are incredible!
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Yes, I didn't decide until after visiting the campus my senior year https://t.co/EPMprbTMDO
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A5: As many college visits as possible! Field trips - even virtual - are great too!
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having someone not your teacher gives a fresh perspective. Kids don't listen to us 😝
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The campus size was important for my daughter too. Smaller is working so well for her
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me too! 1. Military 2. Construction mgmt. 3. Educator
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Q6: Final Lap: Seniors. Share your list of things that need to be done before graduation, and haven't been addressed yet.
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making mistakes, but learning everyday with my students https://t.co/WaadWE8oGY
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so much I would do different as a teacher now. Everyday is an opportunity!
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A5: Guest speakers with whom our students can relate too, who can inspire & motivate them towards greatness.
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A5: For 9-11, mentors, job shadowing, opportunities to get 1st hand experience with careers/colleges
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So many apps to do.
Nice to have things like the common app or CCGI (https://t.co/wpJ1dRIMXI)
Do lots of apps in one place.
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A6:Seniors, let me be clear as possible: Do not go to a for-profit college for your undergrad work. Quality is low & price is high
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A5: At stated that we devalue other options for kids after HS by pushing the 4 year college pathway.
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A6: Don't procrastinate! Take advantage of all the support. College Applications and FAFSA before winter break
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A6 Completed classes: financial responsibility, character/morality, basic law 101, did I mention financial responsibility?
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A6: easy: good grades, Fafsa, visit/explore schools, enjoy HS!
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best advice ever… Don’t procrastinate!
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A6 cont'd:
And scholarships!
Ss need to be on point w/ this. I worked hard, was able to get lots of little ones. Every $ counts.
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A6: as much as we all love undecided, it won't fly anymore on applications these days
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A6: college and scholarship apps, continue to seek guidance, think about your digital footprint
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A6: lots of research and exploration and soul searching. I remember I changed colleges last minute because of a change of heart
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Gotta remember that last one.
Try to enjoy life while finishing all the things.
https://t.co/tlTViWD1Wy
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A6: easy: good grades, Fafsa, visit/explore schools, enjoy HS!
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A6: Applications and more apps! Never too many. Don't forget and maybe a final SAT for some. is providing resources.
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A6: pass economics and eng 12. It's amazing how some don't believe this 😣
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A6 cont: Seniors, general for profits are accredited by https://t.co/qQyDln24b9 Stay away. They will prey on your FAFSA Aid.
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A6: has chimed in-sole focus on A-G & not the bigger picture=adulthood after HS where's the true preparation?
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A6: visit the campus before you accept. Go on school day and not on a tour. Sit in cafeteria. Listen and ask ?s of avg s.
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A6: Do something stupid. You're only allowed to write off dumb decisions for a limited amount of time.
*not pregnancy/tattoos
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A6: try to enjoy your life if at all possible in the rush of Sr. year
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I think applying for scholarships is often missed by seniors.
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A6: grades Sr. year still count, calendar of deadlines for applications, list of information needed for FAFSA
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a1: Unfortunately, it wasn't until the spring of my senior year. A had a wonderful counselor that helped me.
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Gather your final thoughts...
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A6: HS seniors should read 's entire blog and learn how money really works before they ensnare themselves in debt
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a2: For me a great challenge was the cost of college. And that was when college was cheap.
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Any final thoughts on and life after high school?
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General Financial planning is something overlooked
Like money management and other important issues
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a2: Cost is still an issue. In addition, knowing what majors will acutally result in a job.
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is the cooliest!!! Thank you for the intro. More students should get involved.
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a2: And understanding that you probably won't get a job with that directly connects to your major.
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Love having you, Alex! Spread the word!
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Final thought: It's never to late to get your education as long as you are detrmined and believe in yourself.
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Every student deserves to have dreams and goals. We need to help harness their talents to maximize their potential.
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a2: So plan on a field and then get a broad education that will make you marketable in that field.
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FT: college is awesome and amazing but not for everyone. We need to be sure Ss know all the options they have after HS
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A6: All Seniors need to fill out their FAFSA. From there they need to apply to a UC, CC, CSU, private, military, or trade school.
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FT: looking forward to and it was great chatting a whole hour
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Understanding of how to overcome common obstacles that come along,as there are mistakes that lots of young adults make
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a3: Make them aware that college exists and why people go. Not everyone needs to go. But way more people in the IE should.
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Enjoy learning for sake of learning and not just $$$$
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a3: I think we have one of the lowest rates of college attendance in the state.
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FT: Love the emphasis on college and the balance with career readiness at with .
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Final thoughts on on : "You are braver than you believe. Stronger than you seem. And smarter than… https://t.co/wc9jMny3lN
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Final thoughts: encourage and inspire our kids to dream big is a great opportunity explore for the future
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a4: I think the AVID college trips are great. I also wish there were more job shadowing opportunities available.
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A5: don't limit options. Explore all. Be realistic with choices
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a5: I definitely think we need to have classes that possess the rigor that prepares for college. Lots of reading and writing.
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Thanks for joining ! Next week our topic will be the Art and Science of Feedback
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FT: We can all find a few kids to take under our wing that need the extra guidance and/or inspiration!
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A4: colleges should be a part of every family vacation, even if it is the local ones. Go see free stuff at colleges.
