We can't just throw tech at a systemic problem. Not every problem needs a battery, but they do need educators who care, are patient and are innovative. #sunchat#tlap#leadlap#KidsDeserveIt#CodeBreaker
#sunchat#sunchat Good morning Tiffany and everyone here this morning. My name is Allen and I am a high school counselor in PA. Looking forward to sharing ideas and learning from you all!
Susan from a very rainy Jersey Shore, and I just got back from food shopping! I'm planning on doing NOTHING for the rest of the day (except for lesson plans!) lol #sunchat
Creativity. That cannot be simply turned off and on. It is something that needs to be fostered over time. If not, you can't automatically flip the switch and become creative. Compliance is noble, but doesn't require much thought. Creativity is a more valued trait. #sunchat
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#sunchat A1 Compliance and creativity co-exist. We face this in our classrooms, daily. We follow an outcome based curriculum but allow for creativity in how we engage our students.
Creativity. That cannot be simply turned off and on. It is something that needs to be fostered over time. If not, you can't automatically flip the switch and become creative. Compliance is noble, but doesn't require much thought. Creativity is a more valued trait. #sunchat
Creativity leads to problem solving & solutions that move the world forward, whereas compliance leads to "this is the way we've always done it." I lean towards the importance of creativity #SunChat
I think that standards do allow for creativity but it is always up to the educator to make it creative. The standards do not come with the creativity that is our job to our students. #sunchat
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A1 Compliance vs creativity must coexist to a certain extent. They must work together in life. Compliance with laws, rules allow us to function relatively peacefully. Creativity should work within these. #sunchat
Interesting view point. I always related the statement “this is the way we’ve always done it” to people who just don’t want change or don’t want to work LOL #sunchat
#sunchat A1 Compliance and creativity co-exist. We face this in our classrooms, daily. We follow an outcome based curriculum but allow for creativity in how we engage our students.
I think both Creativity and Compliance can coexist but its up to the to set the environment. Standards can create barriers but the teacher must be able to work around them and allow students to overcome and THINK. #sunchat
Feedback should be provided to correct EVERY reading error, even if the error does not change the meaning of what was read. This promotes accuracy and attention to detail. (David Kilpatrick, 2015)
@susankotch I do think that standards allow for creativity. Many of the written standards are left so open. That way we as educators can add in the creativity for our students. #sunchat
I would say compliance and creativity can co-exist. There are many ways Ss can demonstrate mastery of a standard. It does not have to be boring and compliant that is focused on lower level thinking skills. Creativity is higher order thinking in action. #sunchat
Standardized tests still only test for compliance, not creativity. Such a large gap in what we know kids need vs. what we are told they need to know. How do we fix that? #sunchat
Creativity and communitiance are part of my everyday. Student choice in readings, research topics, choice of outcomes, etc. but it can’t just be do whatever you want or read whatever you want - everything is skill based, but allow for creativity whenever possible #sunchat
There are some great views here. I am curious what people define as creative? I have found it is not really about new as much it is improving something old. Example: chalkboard, to whiteboard to interactive board #sunchat
A1: So many great points to think about in this article! We need to make sure we’re teaching our children problem solving & human skills. #HackLearninghttps://t.co/jenFhEfMZn
We usually don’t have much control over what we teach, but we often do have control over what our students do to learn. And we always have control over how we approach teaching and learning.
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Hey #sunchat! Louie here from Lancaster, PA. Working for a little bit... Starting breakfast... First time joining this chat. Middle School social studies teacher. Excited to learn and grow with you.
I struggle with this as well. I believe the standards allow for creativity because they are very open. We teach the content which is required, but how we teach it is where the magic can happen. #sunchat
Standardized tests still only test for compliance, not creativity. Such a large gap in what we know kids need vs. what we are told they need to know. How do we fix that? #sunchat
We also have to model creativity - too many students want to be given a rubric to just follow. Too many want to give the “right” answer. We need to break them out of the box and show that their opinion is so important! #sunchat
There is obviously a need for compliance to certain rules, but more important that Ss understand why these rules exist. Ask Ss why a rule exists, but can't answer "because". Make them dig deeper. #sunchat
Yes they can coexist. Creativity is a driving force for student excitement and working hard. A students attitude towards a class will often times reflect their overall effort. #sunchat
Yes. I find this when I create my lessons backwards. I figure out what I want to accomplish in a project. Then I fill in which standards we will be addressing.
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And compliance can also be a by-product of self-control -- intrinsic constraints, rather than exclusively extrinsic ones. Constraints in many forms can even spark creativity. Necessity>>invention, sometimes #sunchat
A1: Not only can compliance and creativity coexist, I believe that creativity can encourage compliance. The more creative control you give over to Ss, the more empowered and compliant they want to be. #sunchat
Yes - compliance is covering the standards, teaching the standards requires planning, time, exploration, and creativity. Need to go more in depth! #sunchat
It's because the pedagogy hasn't changed - even with the addition of tech. 1:1 tech was "Added On", not integrated. It's there to help transform learning, not to become a digital worksheet. #sunchat
A1 YES! I have seen teachers and admin work their magic and weave in creativity into what's compulsory. It's always the highlight of the Ss and Ts day! #sunchat
True. But in my school, Ss who want to be perfect, seem to leave creativity behind in an attempt to comply with what they imagine Ts want. They work hard, but try to soley follow "rules" #sunchat
Ts don’t do rows because of compliance but due to control. I wonder if we are defining as compliance as control. I define as following rules. I don’t think that is always bad. As a black person, I really like how the rules have changed for me #sunchat
Interesting observation....what are the connotative meanings behind the word “compliance?” Does that word reflect the goals of today’s schools, or do we mean something else? #SunChat
Creativity and communitiance are part of my everyday. Student choice in readings, research topics, choice of outcomes, etc. but it can’t just be do whatever you want or read whatever you want - everything is skill based, but allow for creativity whenever possible #sunchat
I think they can co-exist. It is about finding the right balance between the two, and that will look different for everyone depending on the classroom dynamic. #SunChat
Compliance to rules of respect of peers, teachers, and property are expected. Compliance in the classroom looks different than it did even 10 to 20 years ago. Classroom should be Messier and more Student Centered than ever before. #sunchat
Although there may be moments of conformity and compliance (as in the adult world within professions), the important thing is to make sure kids evolve and excel. That only happens when we tap into their interests, and their creativity unleashes.
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Agreed. And we need to teach them as must as we teach content. Give students the time and opportunities to "fail", take risks, and be creative. #sunchat
It's because the pedagogy hasn't changed - even with the addition of tech. 1:1 tech was "Added On", not integrated. It's there to help transform learning, not to become a digital worksheet. #sunchat
A few suggestions:
1. Be the GUIDE on the RIDE, not the Sage on the Stage.
2. Encourage students to work COLLABORATIVELY.
4. EMPOWER students by weaving CHOICE into learning tasks and projects.
5. Teach Ss how to use technology to CREATE content.
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I teach English, so for me the sonnet is a great example of how a set of parameters can encourage creativity within the parameters. (Check out how @eveewing does it in #electricarches.) The sonnet is a good metaphor for school: what can we DO within these parameters?
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This definition in Mirriam-Webster dictionary "the act or process of complying to a desire, demand, proposal, or regimen or to coercion" does seem to have a negative connotation #SunChat
A1 Compliance and creativity can co-exists! It is understanding what the role of each is in the planning, learning, and work product phase of the process that matters. It requires a craftmans touch as a teacher #sunchat
A1: it’s possible for them to coexist. Comp is what has to be done or accomplished. Creativity allows for a personal way of demonstration which naturally leads to variety #sunchat
The standards are a guiding set of topics to cover... it is up to the teacher and his or her Creative Touch to enhance the learning of the standards of skills and content. #sunchat
There is a need for compliance yet how we allow Ss and Ts to respond, interact & develop is the creativity that is needed as well. Not just 1 way to do or see. #sunchat
In matters of learning standards, there are typically many paths to reach those goals. Possible to keep relatively tight focus on outcomes while permitting relatively loose explorations to reach them. (To paraphrase Tolkien: Not all who wander are lost.) #sunchat
To prepare students for the real world work with them on critical thinking, communicating, collaborating, being not afraid to take risks, being creative and being connected responsibly in our digital world. My 4C's + page https://t.co/Sl8n9NkXSl#FutureReady#sunchat
Excellent point about control. I agree with rules being necessary. I think my major issue with the rows is that it perpetuates bad pedagogy - stifles a student centered classroom, & reinforces the antiquated idea that the T has all the info. #sunchat
This is so true. We do so many things without knowing why. Ex. We have a dress code. Kids didn’t like it because we didn’t explain why. When I said it is a security measure, they were like ohh. #sunchat
I was that kid! I solely focused on grade point average, ACT score, and raising both so I could get money for college. That meant less financial aid I had to apply for. I worked in high school and studied whenever I had a spare moment. #sunchat
True. But in my school, Ss who want to be perfect, seem to leave creativity behind in an attempt to comply with what they imagine Ts want. They work hard, but try to soley follow "rules" #sunchat
I think creativity is so IMPORTANT in the classroom! Learning how to be more creative is what prepares students for life beyond the classroom. Creativity is thinking outside the box. #sunchat
Parts of the definition are disturbing when applied to the classroom... Students should not be coerced into learning... It should be more of a choice and passion based Adventure the many classrooms are today, including my own. #sunchat
I agree 100%. Google Docs worksheets are still worksheets. We must move beyond substitution with technology in order to close the Digital Use Divide!!
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We say that a lot... but some students (often new to our school & from more traditional learning environments) feel very worried about getting it "right" It seems we need to train them to be creative #SunChat
This definition in Mirriam-Webster dictionary "the act or process of complying to a desire, demand, proposal, or regimen or to coercion" does seem to have a negative connotation #SunChat
Standards are only the topics. Not the How and Why I teach? Standards are useful (and sometimes dumb) Helps keep things organized for kids that transfer a lot.
#sunchat#WildCard#DitchBook#HackLearning#xplap#edurpg
So glad you mentioned rubrics. As I work with Ts, I see so many bad rubrics. It should be about quality not how to. A good one allows for creativity while also giving parameters. #sunchat
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Begs a follow-up question: Is teacher prep about compliance or creativity? (I'd argue elements of both, though current balance may often feel out of whack.) #sunchat
I think creativity is so IMPORTANT in the classroom! Learning how to be more creative is what prepares students for life beyond the classroom. Creativity is thinking outside the box. #sunchat
This is a hard process, one I struggle with. Too many kids look like I stole their puppy when I give them anything more involved than a worksheet! #sunchat
Standards allow for creativity if we are creative and take the time to plan & explore new ways students can learn/express their learning. Incorporate principles of #UDL. Give students choice on how to learn and how to show their learning. #sunchat
Those poor babies. I have no solutions for helping them right now. I hug my perfectionist kids a lot and say they are made perfect, they don’t have to be perfect #sunchat
Teachers and administrators need to be careful not to equate quiet classrooms with quality classrooms. Compliance does not imply engagement and it rarely leads to lasting learning #edtech#engagechat#LeadLAP#PBL#MasteryChat
Definitely not what I want...I did a simulation of a dictatorship in my classroom for a unit on 1984. I was surprised by how quickly my Ss toed the line. Very few had the courage to speak up even though our school gives a lot of voice to Ss #SunChat
Some will also only do what they have to in order to score well on rubric. I said to my kids -I want to know how WawI was a WORLD War -impact on non-Europeans? Research and present. No parameters at all- it was to go for them at first with no rubric or defined definition #sunchat
Everyone needs training on creativity. I have learned a lot about it through my work with PBL. I had a lot of misconceptions. Similar to compliance. #sunchat
Here is what you teach them. Test them. Go to the the next topic. Often time many teachers fall into this routine because of standardized testing and all they think about are numbers and not the STUDENTS. #sunchat
#sunchat A1: To add on: Yes, they can co-exist and I say this as a former teacher and now counselor. Obviously, it's essential that students do comply when necessary or chaos could ensue and the student could miss out on great opportunities.
#sunchat A1: I've been told that nearly 25% of potential employees in the high skill trades jobs automatically eliminate themselves from the job simply bc they can't pass a drug test. This is where simple rules of compliance come in to play.
#sunchat A1: With that said, I do believe that creativity is and will be a more valued commodity in the workforce (and for real life too!). Contract style work is becoming the new norm and will only become more prevalent in the future. Creativity is what sets us apart.
I also suspect some school districts value creativity over compliance while others don’t...and there is a direct correlation to that district’s socio-economics and accreditation standing...#sunchat
But then, after turning away many questions, they got to work. I also researched. It was a real question. It is what historians do - they don’t have a rubric when entering a dig site. They gave such powerful presentations in so many ways. #sunchat
I think that definitely amplified it but it was a problem before. I have a lot of family and friends who wear me out with their perfectionism. They didn’t grow up in the standardized assessment era. #sunchat
I love that response! I've been working a lot with self-assessment. My perfectionists have a hard time saying that an assignment's done. "It's not perfect yet." I have to let them know it may never be perfect, but it's excellent. #SunChat
So true! It is my passion to teach Ts how to create a student centered classroom. I think universities are starting to do it. Wondering how we can make it the new norm in education #sunchat
I love that response! I've been working a lot with self-assessment. My perfectionists have a hard time saying that an assignment's done. "It's not perfect yet." I have to let them know it may never be perfect, but it's excellent. #SunChat
I see a slight trend of some schools who are more traditional and compliant regarding instruction, perform better on standardized assessments. Big sigh! #sunchat
I think I just created a new word. Ugh. #sunchat I had the PA Sec of Ed retweet me with a spelling error! I showed my students - we are not all perfect, but here’s why you edit! 😂
LOVE Choice Boards! Always used them when I was in the classroom. Ss decide how they will demonstrate their understanding and application of concepts. They LOVED it! AND they were more creative than they e#ven thought they could be! #sunchat
I think I just created a new word. Ugh. #sunchat I had the PA Sec of Ed retweet me with a spelling error! I showed my students - we are not all perfect, but here’s why you edit! 😂
using compliance only will create a bunch of robots. Creativity will build a better diverse society allowing students to think outside the box.#sunchat
#sunchat For sure, we need a certain amount of compliance to keep things running smoothly, but often we demand too much compliance that squashes creativity.
Agreed! People just are not accustomed to tapping into the creativity. They roadblock themselves. Creative thinking is Critical THinking, for Ss and Ts.
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Everyone needs training on creativity. I have learned a lot about it through my work with PBL. I had a lot of misconceptions. Similar to compliance. #sunchat
I don’t know about u guys who are doing CC standards, when I first read them while they were even still in draft form, I was like WHOA! ELA is filled with communication, creativity and critical thinking requirements. #sunchat
I always show my failures (and there are many) with my students. This takes some of the pressure off. I show them my first college research paper - then explain why I don’t use red ink to tread - shudder.... #sunchat creativity comes with this relaxation
I find the same thing (except for few weak Ss who grade themselves too high) Both sides of the spectrum made me decide to do guided self-assessment once in a while. I've seen positive changes #SunChat
Your comment got me thinking about compliance as reading contours of situation (social/learning/otherwise), determining which ones to follow & why. Complicated dance of my identity + circumstances in which I'm swimming. Experience=key teacher, which young'ns may lack #sunchat
Let me be clear- no reflection of what kids can do- but the culture of beliefs concerning what some think they can do...if that makes sense. I do think it’s connected to culture issues, but why do those issues exist? #sunchat
Well said. It’s especially important in a future where routine tasks are getting automated. Only those with the ability to think outside the box will thrive. #sunchat
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@CraftyTeacher6, @tiffanytruitt, @susankotch
I think a lot of teacher prep is survival! Compliance or creativity may happen sometimes. Speaking more as a teacher who has 3 years or less experience #sunchat
A1: At the high school level it is important students understand that compliance is often required in college and the workforce. However compliance rarely equates to engagement and almost never leads to higher order learning #sunchat
As long as (1) we’ve taught ALL students the skills for each option so they have a meaningful choice, (2) they all have access to the tools and materials they need to be successful in each one, and (3) each choice demands high creativity and is cognitively rigorous. #sunchat
I always show my failures (and there are many) with my students. This takes some of the pressure off. I show them my first college research paper - then explain why I don’t use red ink to tread - shudder.... #sunchat creativity comes with this relaxation
I always show my failures (and there are many) with my students. This takes some of the pressure off. I show them my first college research paper - then explain why I don’t use red ink to tread - shudder.... #sunchat creativity comes with this relaxation
Aye, there's the rub -- or 1 of 'em. Anybody have experience w/teacher prep (or induction) programs that have default setting besides survival? What's that like? #sunchat
I think a lot of teacher prep is survival! Compliance or creativity may happen sometimes. Speaking more as a teacher who has 3 years or less experience #sunchat
See you guys next #sunchat. Gotta get ready for church. As always, I love learning and growing w/u. Gave me so many things to chew on. Hope I helped to expand u too.
Well, we do need some sort of guiding question - can’t just have students come in everyday and say - research whatever you want... although, that sounds like a perfect idea in a perfect world. #sunchat
Suggest that starting with a comfort zone and ending are 2 different places. If we stay w/ that, then perhaps we've not given the opportunity 2 create outside the boundaries? #sunchat
I’m actually not the biggest fan of using #pinterest in the classroom. My experience has been the lessons have a lot of the flash connected with the idea of creativity without the true connection to challenging standards I find just as important. #sunchat
That is awesome Tim. During my 20 years of teaching, I shared my failures with students as well. Students need to understand that failure is a major part of success, and it is okay to fail. So true regarding creativity and relaxation. #sunchat
I always show my failures (and there are many) with my students. This takes some of the pressure off. I show them my first college research paper - then explain why I don’t use red ink to tread - shudder.... #sunchat creativity comes with this relaxation
Chapter 3 of our book EMPOWER Your Students is about how to teach students to creatively rework their experiences of school to serve their own values. #sunchathttps://t.co/gJkpGucobu
Great question I've debated with many colleagues over the years. I think a lot of this goes back to the issue of control. Some people need to see clear, concrete data that can be neatly checked off in boxes. I guess you could say there is some correlation #sunchat
Creating lessons that involve creativity require teachers to be comfortable with a degree of chaos in the classroom. This can be very intimidating for new teachers so it is no surprise teacher prep focuses on compliance first. #sunchat
The new federal law, ESSA, is shifting the emphasis away from accountability systems driven primarily by test scores. This might affect how we judge schools. #sunchat
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@susankotch, @bethhill2829, @tiffanytruitt
#sunchat Q2: We need to find the balance with compliance and creativity. Guide our students to be creative thinkers, work collaboratively, problem solve and self manage while being good citizens.
If you have ever worked in a daycare, chaos in the classroom is not near as crazy as chaos during craft time in a daycare!! It takes experience & dedication! #sunchat
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@Kareemfarah23, @thnorfar, @brianrozinsky
Fair point, Kareem. Chaotic or creative compliance? Compliant creativity? Those do sound intimidating (not to mention paradoxical), yet teaching what's 'easy' feels like it's put problematic ceilings on many learning endeavors. #sunchat
And we can't blame kids for having that mindset. Many of them can't go to college if they don't get the scholarship grades. Our system is it's own worst enemy! #sunchat
It is very intimidating for the seasoned teachers who are desiring a set curriculum with a do-this then do-that format. I work with many who just want a list of what to teach, when, and how. Fear of creativity!
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@Kareemfarah23, @thnorfar, @brianrozinsky
Genius Hour/Passion Projects are a quite way to provide opportunities for creativity in the classroom.
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Read about how we've done it here:
The Four Pathways to Genius
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#SundayMorning the rain has stopped but flooding continues in my area #AllINeedToDoIs take a deep breath and be thankful Not much time for self pity #sunchat
How many times have we limited student creativity because WE were afraid? Can we hold space for that fear and also make space for their creativity? https://t.co/BgfYcLY3rH#sunchat
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@bethreed_12, @Kareemfarah23, @thnorfar, @brianrozinsky
EXACTLY! “Creativity comes in many different forms, shapes, sizes, etc.” Creativity doesn’t have to be time consuming; it can be weaved in through quick #sketchnotes, #booksnaps, Play-Doh, Legos, GIFs, skits, lyrics, etc.
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It really does! So many different skills we lack in todays classroom, critical thinking skills, problem solving skills, and creativity. Just to name a few. #sunchat
This is such good news! I constantly feel like we're sending a double message to kids "don't focus on the grade, focus on the learning." vs "Hey, you better do that hw. If your grade drops you won't go to uni." #SunChat
Agree, sadly. There HAS to be a better way. We pay people big money to figure this stuff out - maybe they need a few teachers in those positions to work it out in a PLN? #sunchat@ABittinger_SWHS
Good for you for risktaking. Parents who've seen eportfolios done purposefully (not a bragbook) they opt for that instead of report cards which says nothing #sunchat
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@Emily_Seegers, @carlameyrink, @bethhill2829
Absolutely! Standards give us clear outcomes but I watch my Ts come up with amazingly creative and engaging approaches to teaching those standards. #sunchat#educhat#educoach
It easily becomes about a mark, not the learning and the Ss know ultimately the marks are what are going to get them to the next level, but the knowledge is what is needed for life #sunchat
I’d find value in results of basics skills testing. Higher level thinking and writing skills I can assess in the classroom. I’d like to know how my students stack up against others from across the country on grade level reading comprehension and math skills 1/2
Evidence of learning over time, not just content. More important reflections are the ones on teamwork, collaboration, problemsolving. When you see evidence, not just the talk, it becomes real. #sunchat
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@carlameyrink, @Emily_Seegers, @bethhill2829
Standards--absolutely yes. Scripts--absolutely not. Scripts are for teacher-proofing and zap creativity, expression, relationships, and even differentiation. #sunchat
