#NGSSchat Archive
A Twitter chat focused one helping share ideas and host discussions around NGSS implementation.
Thursday May 19, 2016
9:00 PM EDT
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#NGSSchat
. We’re so excited you’re joining us! Please remember to include
#NGSSchat
in your tweets!
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#NGSSchat
. We’re so excited you’re joining us! Please remember to include
#NGSSchat
in your tweets!
jhubb546
May 19 @ 9:00 PM EDT
A5 I need to work in Ss feedback and then an activity and then another assessment
#hsngsschat
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K12Nest
May 19 @ 9:00 PM EDT
@Miss_Orear
Assessments have gotten such a bad rap (reasonably). They're diagnostics, not curricular determinants.
#ngsschat
bickd
May 19 @ 9:00 PM EDT
#ngsschat
Hi!! I'm Dawn. I teach K-5 Science in Indy. Looking forward to tonight's chat.
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Please start by introducing yourselves with your name,what you do, and where you’re from!
#NGSSchat
jhubb546
May 19 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Thanks for a great
#hsNGSSchat
join us next month to talk SEPs (analyzing/interpreting data & using math)! Keep talking w/
#NGSSchat
NOW!
Miss_Orear
May 19 @ 9:01 PM EDT
@jhubb546
Same, working on ways to organize time.
#hsNGSSchat
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:01 PM EDT
We’ll be following a Q1/A1 format. Please respond to the question asked with an “A” and the number.
#NGSSchat
Mr_ArndtEOS
May 19 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Dan Arndt, recently graduated from
@UConn
, soon-to-be new Bio teacher at
@EOSmithHS
#ngsschat
quincygirls1
May 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Shawn Knaack - 7th Grade Science - Quincy, Mi
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FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@Mr_ArndtEOS
@UConn
@EOSmithHS
Congrats, Dan! And welcome!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@quincygirls1
Welcome, Shawn!
#NGSSchat
wolfbioedu
May 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Chris Wolf, Science Teacher
@vernon
Hills HS
#ngsschat
Miss_Orear
May 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Sarah, high school science teacher from Kentucky!
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Bill Penuel here, professor of learning sciences at
@cueducation
here for
#ngsschat
. Hi everyone!
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@wolfbioedu
@vernon
Hey Chris. Welcome to
#NGSSchat
emmytbots
May 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hi everyone! Emily from MI. It's been a while since I was able to join
#ngsschat
- glad to be here tonight!
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@Miss_Orear
Evening, Sarah!
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
May 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hi there everyone out there in
#NGSSchat
land. Ted Willard, Dir. of NGSS@NSTA sitting with
#NGSSchat
Empress
@TdiShelton
tonight in Delaware
Ted_NSTA
May 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hi there everyone out there in
#NGSSchat
land. Ted Willard, Dir. of NGSS@NSTA sitting with
#NGSSchat
Empress
@TdiShelton
tonight in Delaware
philiplbell
May 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hi
#ngsschat
! Phil Bell here from Univ of Washington. I'm in a mtg… will try to participate as I can. :-) I work on multiple
#NGSS
projects.
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@quincygirls1
Welcome to
#NGSSchat
and congratulations-- what a wonderful road lies ahead for you and your students!
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@bpenuel
@cueducation
Howdy, Bill!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@emmytbots
Welcome back, Emily!
#NGSSchat
perezhasclass
May 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Katie Perez, I am an education consultant
@ESSDACK
. I specialize in K-8 science.
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@quincygirls1
Welcome to
#NGSSchat
Shawn!
HollyMcGoran
May 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hello to everyone at
#NGSSchat
tonight! Holly, a 7/8 sci teacher & STEM instructional specialist, from the mitten state
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
Hey Ted!
#NGSSchat
BKd204Sci
May 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Brian Klaft
@BKd204Sci
Aurora, IL Good evening everyone!
#ngsschat
MrsPotterNelson
May 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hi All! Liz, HS dept. chair, from Antioch, IL for about a month longer. :)
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@wolfbioedu
@vernon
Welcome to
#NGSSchat
Chris!
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@perezhasclass
@ESSDACK
Hey, Katie. Welcome!
#NGSSchat
DougHodum
May 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Doug, HS biology instructor, Maine
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K12Nest
May 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Oh thank goodness. I have been running 15 late all day. Finally NAILED IT!!
#ngsschat
https://t.co/CK2QsEtQN0
Ted_NSTA
May 19 @ 9:00 PM EDT
@K12Nest
You are right on time.
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@HollyMcGoran
Welcome, Holly!
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@Miss_Orear
Great to see you Sarah -- we shared the optical illusion today in DE :)
#NGSSchat
jaclyn_austin
May 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hi
#ngsschat
! Jackie Austin joining from HoCo Maryland. Gearing up for summer Curr.Writing & NGSS learning
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@MrsPotterNelson
Hey Liz! Where are you headed? :)
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@BKd204Sci
Welcome, Brian!
#NGSSchat
emmytbots
May 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Give a shout to my good friend and colleague
@Teaching24_7
joining her first chat!
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@DougHodum
Hey Doug. Welcome!
#NGSSchat
kmgill135
May 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Kathy, elem. science teacher from CA.
#ngsschat
ksteves61811
May 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Hi everyone! Katie, 4th grade, South Redford MI
#NGSSchat
MrsPotterNelson
May 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@FredEnde
Grad work at UConn!
#ngsschat
Miss_Orear
May 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@TdiShelton
So cool!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@jaclyn_austin
Hey Jackie!
#NGSSchat
Mr_ArndtEOS
May 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@MrsPotterNelson
Looking forward to seeing you work with
@dtcampbe
!! I'll literally be next door.
#ngsschat
DougHodum
May 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT
.
@FredEnde
Thanks! Sorry I have been absent this year. Crazy busy year...even still crazy.
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT
#WootWoot
!
#NGSSchat
is honored!
https://t.co/26MmwqihAn
emmytbots
May 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Give a shout to my good friend and colleague
@Teaching24_7
joining her first chat!
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@bpenuel
@cueducation
Welcome Bill
@Ted_NSTA
and I were talking the Science Prof Learning standards today
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@MrsPotterNelson
Awesome!
#NGSSchat
MrsPotterNelson
May 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@FredEnde
Grat work at UConn with
@dtcampbe
! I'm super excited!
#ngsschat
misteraycock
May 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Happy Thursday science change makers! Great to be back at another
@NGSSchat
Brian from
@sd129
Elementary Science Admin
#ngsschat
jhubb546
May 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Hey Josh from MI looking forward to end of school year. Lots of projects to work on during summer time!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@DougHodum
No apology necessary. We're glad you're here!
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@emmytbots
Thanks so much for joining us Emily-- I hope you are well!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@kmgill135
Hey Kathy!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@ksteves61811
Welcome, Katie!
#NGSSchat
BKd204Sci
May 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@emmytbots
@Teaching24_7
Let me warn you these chats are very addictive!
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
Very Funny-- I'll call you the king :)
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@misteraycock
@NGSSchat
@sd129
Welcome, Brian!
#NGSSchat
ELKissner
May 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Hello! Probably mostly lurking tonight in
#ngsschat
...I teach 6th grade near Gettysburg.
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@jhubb546
Howdy, Josh!
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
May 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@TdiShelton
#ngsschat
Court Jester, perhaps.
K12Nest
May 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@emmytbots
@Teaching24_7
WELCOME! Warning: Twitter chats may become addictive. Call your doctor if you experience symptoms.
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@philiplbell
Hi Phil! Loved chatting with you at
#NSTA16
Still hearing great feedback about your sessions
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@ELKissner
Feel free to lurk! We're glad you're here!
#NGSSchat
BMSscienceteach
May 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Evening - Patrick from KY. 8th grade science teacher - nothing exciting to report tonight.
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@perezhasclass
@ESSDACK
Thanks for joining Katie
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@BMSscienceteach
Hey Patrick. Every night is an exciting one!
#NGSSchat
misteraycock
May 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@MrsPotterNelson
Where are you going? Or just taking a well deserved break?
#ngsschat
DougHodum
May 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
.
@BMSscienceteach
Except for the fact you are here!
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@HollyMcGoran
Welcome Holly!
#NGSSchat
BKd204Sci
May 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Hey
@misteraycock
nice to see you out tonight!
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@MrsPotterNelson
Welcome Liz!
#NGSSchat
auntjennoelle
May 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Hi all. Jen from CA- 4th and 5th science. Looking forward to tonight's chat 👍🏻
#NGSSchat
K12Nest
May 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Oh, should introduce myself. Working for an edtech company to get integrated digital ngss curricula to Ts easily. All Ts & ex-Ts.
#ngsschat
Ted_NSTA
May 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT
#ngsschat
is way more addictive than Scandal!
TrevorTutors
May 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Hello
#NGSSchat
, Trevor from Dexter,MI here...used to teach chem in CT, hope to teach it again here in MI
philiplbell
May 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@TdiShelton
Great to hear! It was fun catching up. We worked today on making the workshops into interactive online modules :)
#ngsschat
BKd204Sci
May 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@BMSscienceteach
Evening Patrick how is your year ending up?
#ngsschat
ml_tindall
May 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Michelle from MI - I teach HS chemistry and facilitate science PD
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@BKd204Sci
Welcome to
#NGSSchat
misteraycock
May 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Hi Brian!
@BKd204Sci
you too! :D
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@ml_tindall
Hey Michelle. Welcome.
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@auntjennoelle
Hey Jennifer.
#NGSSchat
BMSscienceteach
May 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@BKd204Sci
Five days...five days...five days....
#ngsschat
ksteves61811
May 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Love seeing all of you from the mitten state!
#NGSSchat
philiplbell
May 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@jaclyn_austin
Were your ears burning today? We were talking about you today in Seattle. See this thread.
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@DougHodum
Great to see you Doug!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Question 1 coming up in a minute. . .
#NGSSchat
LPugh3
May 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT
LaToya here from TN
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@jaclyn_austin
Welcome to
#NGSSchat
kmgill135
May 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Great! Look forward to sharing your work with colleagues.
#ngsschat
https://t.co/HjAH9iED3K
philiplbell
May 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@TdiShelton
Great to hear! It was fun catching up. We worked today on making the workshops into interactive online modules :)
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@LPugh3
Hey LaToya!
#NGSSchat
DougHodum
May 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT
.
@TdiShelton
Thanks, Tricia. It is great to see you and learn from you and all the experts here!
#ngsschat
K12Nest
May 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT
LOL. Yeah, I feel ya.
#ngsschat
https://t.co/14mp9N7hhu
BMSscienceteach
May 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@BKd204Sci
Five days...five days...five days....
#ngsschat
BKd204Sci
May 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@BMSscienceteach
Same! Can't wait to get some sleep!
#ngsschat
perezhasclass
May 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1: Authentic, includes opportunities for argumentation, & revision of understanding.
#ngsschat
dtcampbe
May 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Hi All..Todd Campbell from
@UConn
w
@Mr_ArndtEOS
@MrsPotterNelson
@tjscience
having 2 pop n & out 2nite
#ngsschat
BMSscienceteach
May 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@BKd204Sci
Seriously - ending the year with science fair project final presentations. Felt this would be a good end assessment.
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@kmgill135
Thanks for joining us Kathy!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Q1 How do you see the cross cutting concepts being the necessary linking between DCIs and SEPs?
#NGSSchat
BKd204Sci
May 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@BMSscienceteach
You have that much energy left? Hats off to you
#ngsschat
tdsull0518
May 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Computer problems keeping me from really participating tonight but I'll be lurking and read up on storify!
#ngsschat
philiplbell
May 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Hi
@dtcampbe
! Great to see you online. It was great spending time chatting at NARST.
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@ksteves61811
Welcome to
#NGSSchat
jaclyn_austin
May 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@philiplbell
Was sharing the module potential w/ colleague today as well! Can't wait to connect with
@sshellery
to move ahead!
#ngsschat
K12Nest
May 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
@MsAre
Little do they know if you blink you miss something w/
#edtech
. But gotta unplug for a bit to recharge batt.
#ngsschat
DougHodum
May 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1. I see those CCC as common themes that students will see throughout their education, woven in many contexts.
#ngsschat
Ted_NSTA
May 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1: New record for how little time it takes to make a Jan Brady reference.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/wTQ8H9ZTrm
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Q1 How do you see the cross cutting concepts being the necessary linking between DCIs and SEPs?
#NGSSchat
Mr_ArndtEOS
May 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1: DCIs & SEPs the what and how...but CCCs are the themes encompassing why students should learn something
#ngsschat
gablejen
May 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Hi all
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@auntjennoelle
Thanks for joining
#NGSSchat
BMSscienceteach
May 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@BKd204Sci
I decided to take the project over the year and wanted to see how it went.
#NGSSchat
Mr_ArndtEOS
May 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1: CCCs provide continuity, bridging individual lessons and entire units together...creating a larger narrative
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@TrevorTutors
Welcome to
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@tdsull0518
Welcome, Taylor!
#NGSSchat
bickd
May 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT
#ngsschat
A1 CCC are the common link for all grade levels and concepts.
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1: Crosscutting concepts link DCIs and practices in ways different scientific communities represent, warrant knowledge
#NGSSchat
emmytbots
May 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1 Great question! As we engage in the SEPs, we uncover the DCIs by looking thru the lens of CCCs
#ngsschat
Miss_Orear
May 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A1: This is where I have a lot of work to do - CCC are how Ss can find continuity/themes in all science.
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@ml_tindall
Welcome to
#NGSSchat
Lots of Chem teachers at the chat tonight-- Great chance to connect
BKd204Sci
May 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@FredEnde
They r the toothpicks w/
#DCI
and
#SEP
being the marshmallow bridge Without the
#CCC
theres a lack of structure
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@DougHodum
And what that might look like?
#NGSSchat
Miss_Orear
May 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Perfect!
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/M1CymT6OeN
emmytbots
May 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1 Great question! As we engage in the SEPs, we uncover the DCIs by looking thru the lens of CCCs
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@ml_tindall
Thanks for joining!
#NGSSchat
DougHodum
May 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT
.
@Miss_Orear
I concur! I think that is an area where I too need work. I am not sure what that looks like in my room...
#NGSSchat
wolfbioedu
May 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A1 CCC get the kids thinking like scientists so they can use DCI to solve problems with SEPs
#NGSSchat
misteraycock
May 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT
I think that CCCs are student-friendly access points that reveal BIG recurring themes throughout their learning
#NGSSchat
philiplbell
May 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1—Sometimes CCCs are conceptual focus for intellectual SEP work with DCIs (e.g., systems thinking abt model of climate change)
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@dtcampbe
Thanks for joining us Todd!
#NGSSchat
@UConn
@Mr_ArndtEOS
@MrsPotterNelson
@tjscience
tdsull0518
May 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@Miss_Orear
@jhubb546
Bummed I missed
#hsNGSSchat
computer problems have me stranded from tweet deck!
#ngsschat
auntjennoelle
May 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1: CCCs are the thinking skills Ss need to connect the other 2 dimensions- very much like Depth &Complexity/ DOK
#NGSSchat
DougHodum
May 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT
.
@FredEnde
Maybe like spiraled curricula, depending on how we use it & lay things out. Ss need to see things more than once
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Question 1 here-- join us on
#NGSSchat
happening now!
https://t.co/I8YJa5W3lB
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Q1 How do you see the cross cutting concepts being the necessary linking between DCIs and SEPs?
#NGSSchat
ksteves61811
May 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A1: CCCs are the bridges for student understanding in an authentic way. Allows multiple subjects to be connected as well.
#NGSSchat
perezhasclass
May 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A1: CCC help make relevant connects to the DCIs. Without the CCC Ss miss the reality of science in the real world.
#ngsschat
BMSscienceteach
May 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A1) It helps kids to see that no matter the content, there will be patterns that happen, energy that flows, systems to define
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@tdsull0518
Thanks for your support Taylor!
#NGSSchat
BKd204Sci
May 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@ELKissner
@FredEnde
I'll put that on my summer to do list
#ngsschat
Ted_NSTA
May 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A1: I don't think CCC link Practices and DCIs, They are an equal dimension in their own right.
#NGSSchat
dtcampbe
May 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT
CCC's Dependeable thinking tools 4 sensemaking
#ngsschat
https://t.co/ZX2H1Z5yLx
misteraycock
May 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT
I think that CCCs are student-friendly access points that reveal BIG recurring themes throughout their learning
#NGSSchat
ejkaretny
May 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT
CCC also help develop interdisciplinary lessons
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@DougHodum
Love that about the CCC's I have heard that lens from Ss as well which is really powerful
#NGSSchat
emmytbots
May 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A1 Another way to put it- the CCCs can help us deepen our understanding/make sense of the DCIs.
#ngsschat
ksteves61811
May 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT
CCCs are the themes Ss can reconnect new learning with grade after grade
#NGSSchat
Teaching24_7
May 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@emmytbots
Yeah! Thanks for the shout out! Glad to be here for my first time!
#NGSSchat
krademaker
May 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT
CCC are the pieces that make the DCIs worth figuring out by using the SEPs, they are nec for true understanding
#ngsschat
BKd204Sci
May 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Great response! So agree
#ngsschat
https://t.co/uZU2073S99
BMSscienceteach
May 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A1) It helps kids to see that no matter the content, there will be patterns that happen, energy that flows, systems to define
#NGSSchat
Christy_TSTEM
May 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Looking forward to listening in to
#NGSSchat
kmgill135
May 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A1: CCCs provide a way to explain data and evidence.
#ngsschat
K12Nest
May 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@perezhasclass
Well put! It's the DCIs where the CCC "rubber" meets the road.
#ngsschat
philiplbell
May 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A1—Sometimes CCCs are a part of STEM expertise involved w/ making sense of phenomena via an SEP focused on a DCI (e.g., patterns)
#NGSSchat
DougHodum
May 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT
.
@Ted_NSTA
Yes, but don't you see them as a pivotal piece that can bridge disciplines and such. Still critical
#NGSSchat
gablejen
May 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@BKd204Sci
@BMSscienceteach
we have nearly a month of school. Get some sleep for me
#ngsschat
DougHodum
May 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT
.
@TdiShelton
All the more reason for me to develop this pedagogy!
#NGSSchat
jaclyn_austin
May 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A1: We discussed w/
@jmctigue
how CCC's be infused in understandings as part of UbD course design work
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/VIzhx4hIT7
HollyMcGoran
May 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A1: CCC = ways for our Ss to show their greater depth of knowledge as it relates to the SEP & DCI
#NGSSchat
LPugh3
May 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
Can you say more?
#NGSSchat
Teaching24_7
May 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Hi everyone! Karen from MI. This is a first chat for me tonight! Glad to be hear to learn how this works on such a great topic!
#NGSSchat
emmytbots
May 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@wolfbioedu
Oooooohh! Another interesting way to think about it. Would you say this is more of an engineering approach?
#ngsschat
jhubb546
May 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Without CCC there is no link. It's the glue that holds it together. Allows all Science disciplines to be called Science Class
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@misteraycock
Love the lens of CCC's as the access points-- scaffolding the CCC's is a path to equity through empowered thinkers
#NGSSchat
TrevorTutors
May 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A1 I am new to the standards, but I like how everyone is referencing "patterns" and "structure" with respect to the CCCs
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
May 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@DougHodum
My point is that they are useful in their own right, not just to support DCIs and practices
#NGSSchat
DougHodum
May 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
.
@Teaching24_7
Welcome, Karen. Great Twitter chat to start with!
#NGSSchat
LPugh3
May 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@Teaching24_7
Hi!
#NGSSchat
philiplbell
May 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A1—Cause & effect is the underlying focus of SEPs of explanation and modeling; it is the goal / foundation of
#science
#NGSSchat
jhubb546
May 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
maybe we should view them as points on a triangle. They all interact with each other. If 1 is eliminated it's not NGSS
#ngsschat
WisDPIscience
May 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
CCCs provide a consistent lens across and within years and across disciplines, helps it all make sense as a whole
#NGSSchat
wolfbioedu
May 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@emmytbots
SEPs is one of the biggest reasons to study science! This world has problems that need science engineers to solve!
#NGSSchat
DougHodum
May 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
.
@Ted_NSTA
Absolutely they are. I just think they are ideas & themes that will allow students to relate across disciplines.
#NGSSchat
MrsPotterNelson
May 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@jhubb546
This is so important. Science is science!
#NGSSchat
K12Nest
May 19 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@TrevorTutors
That's the beauty and nuance of NGSS. Understanding it is the a-ha moment of first "grocking" a periodic table.
#ngsschat
jaclyn_austin
May 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A1: Using UbD for course design we discussed the DNA strand of Science courses as being held together by the CCC's
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
May 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT
One interesting aspect about the 3Ds is that CCC and DCIs have more in common than either do with the practices.
#NGSSchat
emmytbots
May 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@BMSscienceteach
And that thinking abt phenomena thru these lenses helps us organize knowledge and understand more deeply
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Q2 Scale, proportion, and quantity are all about comparisons. Why is this CCC so necessary?
#NGSSchat
BKd204Sci
May 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT
They can be used to accentuate the
#DCI
or
#SEP
or used as the focal point of a lesson Very multifaceted
#ngsschat
https://t.co/ZOIawY117G
Ted_NSTA
May 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@DougHodum
My point is that they are useful in their own right, not just to support DCIs and practices
#NGSSchat
ELKissner
May 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Learning so much from everyone's A1 for
#ngsschat
. As an elem generalist it is so helpful to see this conversation unfold.
tjscience
May 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@dtcampbe
@bpenuel
@UConn
@Mr_ArndtEOS
@MrsPotterNelson
Hey all! Working on building
#ngss
storylines tonight so I'll miss the
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A1 CCCs are great set of questions to guide synthesis discussions - what we figured out (DCIs) through engaging in SEPs.
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
May 19 @ 9:24 PM EDT
DCIs and CCCs are things students need to know while practices are something students need to do.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/AVNjPavYv5
Ted_NSTA
May 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT
One interesting aspect about the 3Ds is that CCC and DCIs have more in common than either do with the practices.
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@BKd204Sci
While the three dimensions can stand alone, it is clear that they mean most when they work together.
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@ksteves61811
Great point--
#NGSS
connections within a unit, course as well as year to year
#NGSSchat
Miss_Orear
May 19 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@DougHodum
I have found great resources for Ss forming sentences with CCC that I plan to use next year to me more intentional.
#NGSSchat
philiplbell
May 19 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A1—A scientist reminded me recently that CCC Structure & Function is best thought of as also including Behavior as a third element
#NGSSchat
WisDPIscience
May 19 @ 9:24 PM EDT
.
@philiplbell
is modeling, seen as explaining, necessarily cause and effect?
#NGSSchat
DougHodum
May 19 @ 9:24 PM EDT
.
@Miss_Orear
Are those resources you would be willing to share, please?
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@tjscience
@dtcampbe
@UConn
@Mr_ArndtEOS
@MrsPotterNelson
We look forward to seeing you soon in CO for evolution storyline dev't
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@BKd204Sci
I can actually visualize this!
#NGSSchat
bickd
May 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@Miss_Orear
@DougHodum
#NGSSchat
Where?? Please share.
Mr_ArndtEOS
May 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A2: In general, importance of cultivating number sense in students cannot be understated
#NGSSchat
dtcampbe
May 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Practices as ways we work at knowing (refining knowledge claims)
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/9FKZfTMZGN
Ted_NSTA
May 19 @ 9:24 PM EDT
DCIs and CCCs are things students need to know while practices are something students need to do.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/AVNjPavYv5
Ted_NSTA
May 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT
One interesting aspect about the 3Ds is that CCC and DCIs have more in common than either do with the practices.
#NGSSchat
gablejen
May 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Finally got internet back on laptop
#NGSSchat
MrsPotterNelson
May 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A2: Science is all about scale; Energy in physics is big in chem is small...same content linked by scale/proportion/quantity
#NGSSchat
DougHodum
May 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A2. Ss need to be able to have an ability to compare, much as they would with a control sample. Seeing similarities, differences
#NGSSchat
philiplbell
May 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@WisDPIscience
Models try to be predictive of the effects/dynamics associated w/ phenomena. They are often multi-variate/complex.
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
I'd say practices are more than do - I like Michael Ford's phrase "grasp of practice" for capturing that aspect
#NGSSchat
dtcampbe
May 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@tjscience
missing
#NGSSChat
- that's not a thing
https://t.co/m73bZ8Vopz
tjscience
May 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@dtcampbe
@bpenuel
@UConn
@Mr_ArndtEOS
@MrsPotterNelson
Hey all! Working on building
#ngss
storylines tonight so I'll miss the
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@Teaching24_7
Thank you for joining us Karen
#NGSSchat
jaclyn_austin
May 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A2: Comparison is rigorous thinking (DOK3 or 4) & shows deeper understanding/ application of knowledge
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/AlUxbWiQnQ
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@philiplbell
Good education exploration here
https://t.co/WmwfCtBARC
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@tjscience
Excited to see your work!
#NGSSchat
@dtcampbe
@bpenuel
@UConn
@Mr_ArndtEOS
@MrsPotterNelson
bickd
May 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT
#NGSSchat
Please retweet Q2. I missed it
DougHodum
May 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A2.2 Ss need to think critically, and those three draw in those thought processes
#NGSSchat
wolfbioedu
May 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT
S,P&Q are needed to data analysis. All Ss need to be able to look at a set of data and understand what it is showing them.
#NGSSchat
ksteves61811
May 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A2 allows Ss to put things in perspective and gives them another chance to work on number sense. This is crucial at the elem level
#NGSSchat
misteraycock
May 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Surprised not to see SP&Q specifically called out in any of the PEs for K-2, need to work this important foundation into instruc!
#NGSSchat
MrsPotterNelson
May 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT
.
@bickd
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/QTbRdoBo0B
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Q2 Scale, proportion, and quantity are all about comparisons. Why is this CCC so necessary?
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
May 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Agreed. I just meant that practices are a different type of goal than DCIs and CCCs
#140charactersistough
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/leJwdc66MC
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
I'd say practices are more than do - I like Michael Ford's phrase "grasp of practice" for capturing that aspect
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@DougHodum
I think we sometimes forget the value of comparisons (or we're afraid of them). But they are so important.
#NGSSchat
philiplbell
May 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@WisDPIscience
I'd still say "yes"—they try to be causal—some
#science
computation models are too complex to describe causal rules
#NGSSchat
perezhasclass
May 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A2: At the elem level this is key to building number sense and applying that understanding in authentic ways.
#NGSSchat
BKd204Sci
May 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A2 so much of Ss misconceptions are based on scale size and proportion That makes that CCC very important to highlight
#ngsschat
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A2 In learning abt evolution, understanding change in proportion of traits in a pop is critical, role of CCC specific to DCI
#NGSSchat
DougHodum
May 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT
.
@FredEnde
I agree. They can be simply or complex, but they are useful in so many aspects of life.
#NGSSchat
LPugh3
May 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
I agree the practices are the application components Ss need to do to conceptually understand phenomenon.
#NGSSChat
WisDPIscience
May 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A2: Scale is essential for understanding phenomena, thinking ppb and Flint MI
#NGSSchat
Miss_Orear
May 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A2: So much of science is too small or large for Ss to experience on scale - the fact that they recognize the difference helps!
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
I agree. Challenge with "do" is it's easily interpreted as "do once," where grasp is the sense of how and when to apply
#NGSSchat
kmgill135
May 19 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A2: Scale and proportion hard for elem Ss. Their world is small
#ngsschat
EHinesPhD
May 19 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@dtcampbe
and
@MrsPotterNelson
dropping knowledge about science Ed!
#NGSSchat
@UConn
@NeagSchool
MrsPotterNelson
May 19 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@WisDPIscience
We look at local H2O quality reports when talking about concentration in chem
#NGSSchat
#communityinvolvement
krademaker
May 19 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A2 - these are imp. across all disciples, and usually hard concepts for Ss to understand, but u need it from cells to space.
#NGSSchat
K12Nest
May 19 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A2: In a very real sense, it's empowering to Ss when they use learned concepts in different contexts by scaling.
#ngsschat
HollyMcGoran
May 19 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A2: understanding of scale, proportion & quantity of parts/whole allows for deeper understanding of phenomenon
#NGSSchat
emmytbots
May 19 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@ELKissner
I'm second grade gen Ed, and this chat has taught me so much over the past year! ☺️
#NGSSchat
dtcampbe
May 19 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A2. CCCs and DCIs r those ideas found most useful for explaining the world, so we keep drawing on them
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A2 In ecosystems, effects of changes across scales is different, therefore integral to understanding their dynamics
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@wolfbioedu
Yes. Could you imagine trying to analyze data without being able to compare? Yikes.
#NGSSchat
ksteves61811
May 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A2: this CCC can start building conceptual understanding of future algorithms that can be so abstract for Ss.
#NGSSchat
Mr_ArndtEOS
May 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@Miss_Orear
And to understand how to gather evidence even when they cannot directly manipulate something too large/small
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Here comes Q3!
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
May 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A2: Proportional reasoning is HUGELY important in physics.
#NGSSchat
WisDPIscience
May 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@philiplbell
I tend to think models can also just explain... Lots of them only give us correlations after all
#NGSSchat
philiplbell
May 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A2—Science tries to quantify relationships; scale & proportion needed to be precise in interpreting data as evidence is identified
#NGSSchat
MrsPotterNelson
May 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@Miss_Orear
Yes! We talk about this often in chem!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Q3 What’s an example of a phenomena or theme you might connect this CCC to? Why?
#NGSSchat
wolfbioedu
May 19 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@FredEnde
For Sure! It could be the difference between something insignificant to groundbreaking.
#NGSSchat
DougHodum
May 19 @ 9:32 PM EDT
.
@Miss_Orear
Thank you!
#NGSSchat
TTMobile_us
May 19 @ 9:32 PM EDT
#NGSSchat
is now trending in USA, ranking 50
bickd
May 19 @ 9:32 PM EDT
#NGSSchat
A2: Science is all about perspective, small compared to what, big compared to what,Scale is very important and needs to be at K
philiplbell
May 19 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@WisDPIscience
True. Scientists prefer to get to statistical causation if they can. But that's not always possible as you say.
#NGSSchat
gablejen
May 19 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@bpenuel
I agree I think it is kind of crazy to teach pop in different unit than evolution...
#NGSSchat
Mr_ArndtEOS
May 19 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A3: # of correct vs. incorrect copies of gene = amount of protein produced by the body
#NGSSchat
emmytbots
May 19 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A2 This is not one we do much with in 2nd grade- we have focused on patterns, cause&effect, structure&function- not so much scale!
#ngsschat
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@smithdianemarie
A good framing piece by
@jamespspillane
,
@reiserbrianj
,
@Todd_Reimer
is this one:
https://t.co/jvYWjUEduY
#NGSSchat
wolfbioedu
May 19 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A3: biodiversity and impact on ecosystem stablilty
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@bickd
Right. And it is something that even our littlest learners do regularly!
#NGSSchat
MrsPotterNelson
May 19 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A3: When learning about concentration we look at our local H2O quality report. not really phenomenon but local learning
#NGSSchat
Mr_ArndtEOS
May 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A3: Relating cellular responses to larger physiological (body-wide) responses to hormones, paracrines, ingested meds
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A3 In our ecosystems unit, we explore effects of planting trees at diff scales: schoolyard, city, globe
#NGSSchat
bickd
May 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT
#NGSSchat
Why can't I see the Qs?
Ted_NSTA
May 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A3: Atoms and Molecules, The Universe, Plate Tectonics.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/iIlV2R8Rmy
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Q3 What’s an example of a phenomena or theme you might connect this CCC to? Why?
#NGSSchat
misteraycock
May 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A3-comparing graphs of normal precipitation to Katrina rainfalls for 3-ESS3-1
#NGSSchat
MrsPotterNelson
May 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
.
@bickd
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/aVJf5GQkfr
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Q3 What’s an example of a phenomena or theme you might connect this CCC to? Why?
#NGSSchat
DougHodum
May 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A3. Cells. scale and proportions might fit in nicely.
#NGSSchat
wolfbioedu
May 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A3 microevolution vs macroevolution
#NGSSchat
krademaker
May 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A3 - Bacteria and Viruses - such great examples of different Ph. on each of those topics
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@bpenuel
Should say that phenomenon here is benefits that trees provide through sequestration of carbon, shade
#NGSSchat
K12Nest
May 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Love this idea! Also integrates NGSS and social sciences, since it's local and it's THEIR water.
#ngsschat
https://t.co/Sq7QSZFkBx
MrsPotterNelson
May 19 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A3: When learning about concentration we look at our local H2O quality report. not really phenomenon but local learning
#NGSSchat
emmytbots
May 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@misteraycock
I'm not sure how that would fit in K-2. Tell me more abt your thinking.
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@Mr_ArndtEOS
Why would you use this as a theme?
#NGSSchat
kmgill135
May 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A3: Ages of rocks and fossils in Grand Canyon
#ngsschat
perezhasclass
May 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A3: In one of the units I have written we look at point and non-point pollution. Construct watersheds, and filtration systems...
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Love this question!
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/rOzwSs7pmq
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Q3 What’s an example of a phenomena or theme you might connect this CCC to? Why?
#NGSSchat
BMSscienceteach
May 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A3) Climate change - how small changes in behavior, when scaled up, can have a large impact
#NGSSchat
wolfbioedu
May 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A3 Latest tech of using DNA as data information storage.
#NGSSchat
perezhasclass
May 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A3 cont'd: We then compare this to city data of local point/non-point pollution and watershed data.
#NGSSchat
BKd204Sci
May 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A3 I've been teaching weather using
#IQWST
and there is a lot of Cause and Effect
#ngsschat
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Seeing a lot of "topics" here in A3, are they phenomena?
#NGSSchat
might want to check out:
https://t.co/6PqXztO88A
mrkevinparr
May 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Trying to follow
#NGSSchat
& learn. The acronyms make me feel like I'm reading in a foreign language. Time to delve in.
#NGSSchatfordummies
?
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@bickd
Q3 What’s an example of a phenomena or theme you might connect this CCC to? Why?
#NGSSchat
Miss_Orear
May 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A3: Understanding how the membrane of cells impacts homeostasis, and systems in an organism.
#NGSSchat
MrsPotterNelson
May 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@K12Nest
It actually tied back into a law class, when my ss remembered doing it in my class a few years back!
#ngsschat
@MurrayACHS
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@mrkevinparr
Happy to help!
#NGSSchat
misteraycock
May 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
For sure! It's intended for use with the 3rd grade PE 3-ESS3-1 studying solutions to weather-related hazards
@emmytbots
#NGSSchat
gablejen
May 19 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@Miss_Orear
really love it when students make this connection
#NGSSchat
DougHodum
May 19 @ 9:39 PM EDT
.
@bpenuel
Great point. I think tying cells and observations they make about cells from different organisms might be better!
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
May 19 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@mrkevinparr
@FredEnde
DCI = Disciplinary Core Ideas CCC = Crosscutting Concepts SEP = Science & Engineering Practices
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@Mr_ArndtEOS
I love this lens as well. Powerful to study the human body systems through scale and cause/effect
#NGSSchat
bickd
May 19 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@mrkevinparr
#NGSSchat
Right there with you, buddy. Wish I could keep them all straight.
ELKissner
May 19 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A3: In ecosystems, we explored the sea otters/sea urchins/kelp relationship and predicted how changes in one affect qty of others
#ngsschat
jaclyn_austin
May 19 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@mrkevinparr
don't hesitate to ask- everyone is friendly and helps to decode Tweet-speak!
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
May 19 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Great point!
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/Jq6g19fRx0
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Seeing a lot of "topics" here in A3, are they phenomena?
#NGSSchat
might want to check out:
https://t.co/6PqXztO88A
dtcampbe
May 19 @ 9:40 PM EDT
140 characters-why r phenomena so important?
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/55Y5HjTq59
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Seeing a lot of "topics" here in A3, are they phenomena?
#NGSSchat
might want to check out:
https://t.co/6PqXztO88A
KRScienceLady
May 19 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Kathy here for the rest of the talking!
#NGSSchat
ksteves61811
May 19 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@mrkevinparr
check out the acronyms list at
https://t.co/nmS6Jbc1zv
it helped me getting started!
#NGSSchat
philiplbell
May 19 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Total
#NGSSchat
non-sequitor. Apologies! Would love people to check out our new
#NGSS
video on everyday engineering…
https://t.co/uvrsllGTga
bickd
May 19 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
@mrkevinparr
@FredEnde
Thank you, Ted!! I needed these!!
#NGSSchat
emmytbots
May 19 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@perezhasclass
Yes, but I think of SP&Q as being abt how principles play out differently at diff scales-atomic vs planetary motion
#NGSSchat
gablejen
May 19 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@perezhasclass
is this for biology and connections to earth sci?
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@DougHodum
Key to good phenomena in my experience is finding a context where you need the idea of cells to explain or model
#NGSSchat
emmytbots
May 19 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@misteraycock
But how do you think it would benefit kids to introduce it earlier?
#NGSSchat
DougHodum
May 19 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Ok folks....my other tasks are in need of attention. Thank you,
@TdiShelton
and
@FredEnde
for another awesome chat facilitation
#NGSSchat
DougHodum
May 19 @ 9:42 PM EDT
.
@bpenuel
Perhaps tying that in early with trying to define life?
#NGSSchat
philiplbell
May 19 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@bpenuel
@DougHodum
I think we have a resource related to that… ;-)
https://t.co/oOj1As7GFA
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@dtcampbe
They provide a need for use of DCIs in context of engaging in science and engineering practice
#NGSSchat
BKd204Sci
May 19 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Phenomena are connected to Ss background knowledge and their misconceptions Ss are the phenomena
#ngsschat
https://t.co/8VaxCUJZJw
dtcampbe
May 19 @ 9:40 PM EDT
140 characters-why r phenomena so important?
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/55Y5HjTq59
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Seeing a lot of "topics" here in A3, are they phenomena?
#NGSSchat
might want to check out:
https://t.co/6PqXztO88A
kmgill135
May 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Off to present at School Board mtg. Thanks for the chat.
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@DougHodum
@TdiShelton
Thanks for being here, Doug.
#NGSSchat
DougHodum
May 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT
.
@philiplbell
@bpenuel
Thank you! I will take a look at that.
#NGSSchat
HollyMcGoran
May 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A3: here's an idea I got from
@JenArnswald
blog - California Drought - how can this happen with so much water on earth
#NGSSchat
WisDPIscience
May 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A3: or what's a phenomenon that wouldn't benefit from a discussion of scale?
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@kmgill135
Thanks for being here, Kathy!
#NGSSchat
DougHodum
May 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT
.
@Ted_NSTA
@TdiShelton
@FredEnde
Bad influence!
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@dtcampbe
Finding engaging phenomena for students is key to helping students from nondom groups identify w science, engineering
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@HollyMcGoran
@JenArnswald
A great one!
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
May 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Phenomena Do dooo daa do da.
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Q4 System thinking is all the rage. Explain how this CCC strengthens DCIs and SEPs.
#NGSSchat
philiplbell
May 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT
@BKd204Sci
Student ideas should be learning phenomena for the teacher. But student ideas should try to explain natural phenomena
#NGSSchat
misteraycock
May 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT
One specific example: working with K to help understand K-ESS2-1. SCP useful 4 describing weather and patterns,
@emmytbots
#ngsschat
TrevorTutors
May 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Thanks for getting this stick in my head.
#NGSSchat
#scienceMuppets
https://t.co/FWnubSsHsE
Ted_NSTA
May 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Phenomena Do dooo daa do da.
#NGSSchat
gablejen
May 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT
I see the CCCs as the big picture and the DCI as connecting pieces and SEPs are how we achieve all steps
#ngsschat
https://t.co/UhbqYjp84c
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Q4 System thinking is all the rage. Explain how this CCC strengthens DCIs and SEPs.
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
May 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A4: In investigating a phenomena, it is often essential to define the system you are investigating.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/TdaPvNRDpb
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Q4 System thinking is all the rage. Explain how this CCC strengthens DCIs and SEPs.
#NGSSchat
KRScienceLady
May 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Phenomena set the context to make meaning. In order 2 answer Phenomena/question Ss must grapple w DCIs using SEPs & CCC
#NGSSchat
ksteves61811
May 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Thanks for another great chat
@FredEnde
@TdiShelton
. I'll catch the rest on storify! Good night everyone!
#NGSSchat
richbacolor
May 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Mulch pile madness = way late for
#NGSSchat
How's everyone doing? Looks like I have to check the Storify this time!
https://t.co/SXBcuFu7OY
MrsPotterNelson
May 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A4: Science is messy. Systems make it easier to process (sometimes).
#NGSSchat
philiplbell
May 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A4—All models are (partial) representations of systems! All models are wrong—some are useful. Sys thinking is core to modeling.
#NGSSchat
dtcampbe
May 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT
BIG REASON-provide space 4 expansive notion of localzed community/cultural resources 4 thinking-love this!
#NGSSChat
https://t.co/nW715E2q3s
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@dtcampbe
Finding engaging phenomena for students is key to helping students from nondom groups identify w science, engineering
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT
@gablejen
Why is it so important to look at this systematically?
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT
@richbacolor
Thanks for joining us Rich!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT
@ksteves61811
@TdiShelton
Night, Katie. Thanks for being here!
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT
@ksteves61811
@FredEnde
Thanks for joining us Katie!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@richbacolor
It's snowing mulch? Wow, MI is crazy!
#NGSSchat
gablejen
May 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@FredEnde
logical progression? to make connections and to build understanding!
#NGSSchat
KRScienceLady
May 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Lately I have been trying to include CCC as part of my driving questioning so that Ss more likely to use in their reasoning
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
Can you give an example of defining a system-- what criteria do you use
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@MrsPotterNelson
What about systems makes it easier?
#NGSSchat
emmytbots
May 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@perezhasclass
Yes-great resource! But there's no perf expectation for it at this level- seems to be just vocab & exposure to me
#NGSSchat
Mr_ArndtEOS
May 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A4: CCCs help give students heuristics that help them reason with new info
#NGSSchat
philiplbell
May 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A4—Some youth are socialized into systems thinking view of how components relate. It is an indigenous practice & fund of knowledge
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@philiplbell
Is the "wrong" important?
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A4: Systems are key to understanding complex phenomena, require grasp of modeling tools to investigate
#NGSSchat
MrsPotterNelson
May 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@FredEnde
I think of the "square cow" in physics; limits the variables that you are looking at in your explanation
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Q5. here it comes. . .
#NGSSchat
Mr_ArndtEOS
May 19 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A4: Sometimes if we get too far into the nitty-gritty...we miss the big picture
#NGSSchat
MrsPotterNelson
May 19 @ 9:50 PM EDT
@Mr_ArndtEOS
Yes!
#NGSSchat
philiplbell
May 19 @ 9:50 PM EDT
@FredEnde
Yes—students need to understand that ALL models have limitations. That is an important feature of the
#NGSS
practice.
#NGSSchat
misteraycock
May 19 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A4-understanding the parts of a system helps us to see how systems can be reliant on every piece-enormous understanding K-12!
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Q5. How are you using systems and system models in your teaching and leading?
#NGSSchat
richbacolor
May 19 @ 9:50 PM EDT
@FredEnde
It actually did snow SNOW earlier this week.
#lovemichigan
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A4 Power of uncertainty in science: What's the boundary of a system? Usually a challenge to define, defend. Generates S ?s
#NGSSchat
dtcampbe
May 19 @ 9:50 PM EDT
If Ss (or we) don't know where to start, draw on CCC(s) in 'shopping 4 ideas'
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/s2n57Rq0YP
Mr_ArndtEOS
May 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A4: CCCs help give students heuristics that help them reason with new info
#NGSSchat
krademaker
May 19 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A4-CCC not only help build a better expl to a DCI but also explain how diff systems are dependent on each other CCC
#NGSSchat
WisDPIscience
May 19 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Agreeing w/
@MrsPotterNelson
, the real-world is complex, defining a system actually allows for building initial understanding
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@MrsPotterNelson
Similar to the KISS theory or Occam's Razor?
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A5 We engage students in attempting to define boundaries of ecosystem, using
@netlogo
to investigate ecosystems dynamics
#NGSSchat
philiplbell
May 19 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Hi
@richbacolor
! I hope all is well. Still in plank position there in MI?
#NGSSchat
MrsPotterNelson
May 19 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@FredEnde
Yep. Remove unnecessary variables. Air resistance exists, not important in many calcs at HS level
#NGSSchat
dtcampbe
May 19 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Gotta run-take care
#NGSSChat
tweeps! All the best.
jaclyn_austin
May 19 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Great example and a great tool for exploring the system interactions
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/1x5SEmBn6C
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A5 We engage students in attempting to define boundaries of ecosystem, using
@netlogo
to investigate ecosystems dynamics
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:53 PM EDT
@philiplbell
Thinking about this. . . wondering how to show learners that this "wrong" is actually good, and not to be afraid of.
#NGSSchat
KRScienceLady
May 19 @ 9:53 PM EDT
I use myself as example that human body is made of diff systems and what happens with one component or system affects the others.
#NGSSchat
wolfbioedu
May 19 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Thanks for the great
#NGSSchat
. Time for school work...
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:53 PM EDT
We used CCC System and system models to understand LS2 at different scales
#NGSSchat
Mr_ArndtEOS
May 19 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A5: Integration of multiple body systems--like why do patients w/diabetes frequently urinate?
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
May 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@TdiShelton
For example, with conservation matter, you have to keep track of what enters or leaves the system.
#ngsschat
KRScienceLady
May 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT
I am one strange system 😊
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@wolfbioedu
Thanks for joining us!
#NGSSchat
emmytbots
May 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@perezhasclass
We do this a lot in math throughout k-2, so it's certainly being addressed!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@KRScienceLady
Yes. The inter-relations of systems is huge. A system, isn't in itself, an isolated event!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@wolfbioedu
Thanks for being with us, Chris!
#NGSSchat
MrsPotterNelson
May 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@FredEnde
Original reference was wrong...spherical cow, not square cow.
https://t.co/XDPUjl7Cwr
#ngsschat
philiplbell
May 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@FredEnde
We had pandemic modeling project where Ss hit same limitations as scientists—helped them see they were doing science!
#NGSSchat
K12Nest
May 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Thank you so, so much for a great
#NGSSchat
tonight. Great to see so many interesting perspectives. Thank you all!!
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT
@dtcampbe
Thanks for joining us!
#NGSSchat
WisDPIscience
May 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A5: As science ed leaders, if we want to change the "system", we have to figure out what we mean by system... :)
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Final Q--Q6 What advice would you give to educators to start embedding CCCs, these in particular?
#NGSSchat
Mr_ArndtEOS
May 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A5: Offering tasks with engr solutions that require consideration of entire systems, not just individual parts
#NGSSchat
jaclyn_austin
May 19 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6: Think about how the CCC could be part of the Essential Question students seek to answer
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT
@WisDPIscience
Very true. It would be interesting to see what that word means to many. . .
#NGSSchat
philiplbell
May 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT
@TrevorTutors
@FredEnde
Depends—A model w/ limitations of not including variable X is limitation&leads to less than perfect output
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
May 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A6: Personally, my favorite tactic is to Co-facilitate a workshop with
@TdiShelton
-- She loves CCCs.
#NGSSchat
Jung26517696
May 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT
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Mr_ArndtEOS
May 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A6: Opportunities to expose students to these themes probably already exist, but need to be taken adv of continuously
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A6 Support Ss use of CCCs with questioning and sentence stems
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A6 Integrate! Keep tied into disciplinary practices, as the CCCs (despite being what unify science) apply differently across DCIs
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT
@philiplbell
@TrevorTutors
Is there value in those imperfect outputs?
#NGSSchat
philiplbell
May 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT
@TrevorTutors
@FredEnde
But there are other ways to be "wrong" in modeling for sure—e.g., wrong components &relationships
#NGSSchat
gablejen
May 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT
@TdiShelton
to not to exclude them! after NSTA I realize what I had been missing from my lessons.
#tryingtofigureitout
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
Yes I do! Yes I do! empowered students :)
#NGSSchat
Mr_ArndtEOS
May 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT
A6: Explicitly point these themes out to students.
#NGSSchat
WisDPIscience
May 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT
A6 - easy first step is just to turn CCCs into guiding questions for current investigations/labs being done
#ngsschat
HollyMcGoran
May 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT
A6: give yourself & your Ss visual reminders of the CCCs once introduced; post near your classroom question board
#NGSSchat
Mr_ArndtEOS
May 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Good night all!
#NGSSchat
BKd204Sci
May 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT
@TdiShelton
A6 Dont feel you have to use multipe CCCs with everything Start w/ one or two Don't rush the process
#ngsschat
MsCZen
May 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT
@cheer4tech
We need to introduce Jeff to Twitter and this
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/jvyvFO59GW
mrkevinparr
May 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Trying to follow
#NGSSchat
& learn. The acronyms make me feel like I'm reading in a foreign language. Time to delve in.
#NGSSchatfordummies
?
bpenuel
May 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT
@WisDPIscience
Or recurring questions across investigations of related phenomena?
#NGSSchat
philiplbell
May 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT
@FredEnde
@TrevorTutors
Yes—my sense is that scientists go with what they can model at a given time & try to improve over time
#NGSSchat
perezhasclass
May 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT
A6: Build a PLN here to ask for help, read Appendix G, plan explicit instruction, and BE KIND to yourself as you learn.
#NGSSchat
KRScienceLady
May 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Yes! Yes! Yes!
#ngsschat
https://t.co/OqHnoBDIBq
WisDPIscience
May 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT
A6 - easy first step is just to turn CCCs into guiding questions for current investigations/labs being done
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
May 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT
@Mr_ArndtEOS
Thanks for joining us!
#NGSSchat
krademaker
May 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT
A5-I use big pic system ideas with everything from cells - eco but also show relationships betw each system as we go to the next
#NGSSchat