#RSDchat Archive
Wednesday November 30, 2016
9:30 PM EST
TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 9:34 PM EST
Tonight
#RSDchat
will be guest moderated by
@gilliam_evelyn
! Introduce yourself,where/what you teach, & fav place in StL
#ritenourexcellence
In reply to @gilliam_evelyn
gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 9:36 PM EST
Evelyn teach all over fav place is probably the Arch
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TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 9:37 PM EST
I'm Chantell & I teach a departmentalized 4th gr
#PBL
+
#STEM
class at Iveland. Fav StL place: Forest Park.
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halliesmills
Nov 30 @ 9:38 PM EST
Hi, Hallie, 4th grade at Marvin. Favorite place the zoo. Just went to Pappy's for 1st time, so that may be close 2nd. :)
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TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 9:38 PM EST
Oh yeah, good call w/Pappy's!
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In reply to @halliesmills
halliesmills
Nov 30 @ 9:38 PM EST
We just took my sister from D.C. up the arch this weekend!
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In reply to @gilliam_evelyn
MikeLaChance5
Nov 30 @ 9:39 PM EST
Mike teach and learn wherever possible. Maplewood is a favorite of mine
#coffeecrawl
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mmg6459
Nov 30 @ 9:40 PM EST
I'm Maureen and I'm a Reading Specialist, my fav place is the History Museum
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TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 9:40 PM EST
And she was my 5th gr teacher in Riverview! : )
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mmg6459
Nov 30 @ 9:40 PM EST
I'm Maureen and I'm a Reading Specialist, my fav place is the History Museum
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gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 9:43 PM EST
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pdemps45
Nov 30 @ 9:43 PM EST
Patrick Dempsey, AP at RMS, Forest Park, or a new found coffee shop with a good book, or great conversation
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gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 9:44 PM EST
Q1: What is our belief around restorative justice? Not, what we do, but what do we believe?
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TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 9:45 PM EST
@MrSmall215
Chat tonight I thought you might be interested in.
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In reply to @MrSmall215
gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 9:43 PM EST
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TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 9:46 PM EST
You're only as old as you act! Right
@MCrowley522
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In reply to @mmg6459, @MCrowley522
mmg6459
Nov 30 @ 9:47 PM EST
you are absolutely correct...you always were a smart girl! :)
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In reply to @TechieTcher, @MCrowley522
TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 9:48 PM EST
A1: I was just chatting w/someone about restorative justice ideas for my classroom. Building community to build student trust.
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halliesmills
Nov 30 @ 9:50 PM EST
A1: I think it's important for students to know that one bad event or wrong choice doesn't mean that all is lost.
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halliesmills
Nov 30 @ 9:51 PM EST
Curious about any ideas you have!
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In reply to @TechieTcher
dr_riina
Nov 30 @ 9:51 PM EST
A1: I believe elf-control, problem solving, interpersonal relationship management, conflict resolution, & empathy outweigh content
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MikeLaChance5
Nov 30 @ 9:51 PM EST
I believe restorative justice applies to parenting as well. Great way to teach empathy and model.
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halliesmills
Nov 30 @ 9:53 PM EST
We're talking
#equity
in education right now in
#rsdchat
. Join in the conversation!
gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 9:53 PM EST
Children are always learning. RJ needs to allow SS to learn from the situation and remain connected to the community
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TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 9:53 PM EST
Still mulling through new learning.I believe restorative justice can be big bc students aren't just sent out or away.
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In reply to @halliesmills
mmg6459
Nov 30 @ 9:53 PM EST
A1 Using Restorative justice as a practice makes sense as we work to build relationships w/students and parents.
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TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 9:54 PM EST
Agreed! Not just for students either. Adults need to feel this way too!
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halliesmills
Nov 30 @ 9:50 PM EST
A1: I think it's important for students to know that one bad event or wrong choice doesn't mean that all is lost.
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TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 9:56 PM EST
It is so hard to remember the carry over at home.
#stillworkingonthat
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In reply to @MikeLaChance5
TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 9:57 PM EST
This year especially I've learned that to get to the deeper
#PBL
the things you listed need to come first.
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In reply to @dr_riina
gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 9:57 PM EST
2. Adams Elem has no bells. How do you think our students would/would not benefit from a no bells/no whistles system (K-5? K-12?)
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TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 9:58 PM EST
Right. Instead of it feeling like school has given up on a child it feels like school supporting & teaching the child.
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In reply to @mmg6459
halliesmills
Nov 30 @ 9:59 PM EST
I will admit I was multi-tasking while listening & missed this part. No morning/afternoon/lunch bells?
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In reply to @gilliam_evelyn
dr_riina
Nov 30 @ 9:59 PM EST
Agreed. It is hard to focus on those intangibles with so much pressure to perform on content heavy tests.
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In reply to @TechieTcher
pdemps45
Nov 30 @ 10:00 PM EST
A1: Restorative justice=best way to do conflict. We are unique & have 2 work together. This takes time/conversation/relationships
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TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 10:00 PM EST
And once those intangibles are set the deeper learning will happen & performance will go up.
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In reply to @dr_riina
gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 10:01 PM EST
No bells/no whistles at recess. They use hand signals
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halliesmills
Nov 30 @ 9:59 PM EST
I will admit I was multi-tasking while listening & missed this part. No morning/afternoon/lunch bells?
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In reply to @gilliam_evelyn
dr_riina
Nov 30 @ 10:01 PM EST
A2: No bells is a start, but it is ultimately a superficial change, like the S in SAMR. It isn't enough w/o lots of other changes
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TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 10:01 PM EST
Question 2: How do you think our students would/would not benefit from a no bells/no whistles system (K-5?) K-12?)
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halliesmills
Nov 30 @ 10:02 PM EST
Oh yes! I remember that now. I like the peaceful nature. It would take a lot of practice I imagine!
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In reply to @gilliam_evelyn
pdemps45
Nov 30 @ 10:02 PM EST
A2 I think our kids would benefit from no bells, would fell less factory, more personal, and would take getting use to
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MrAllPurposeRHS
Nov 30 @ 10:03 PM EST
A2. Such a major systemic shift. Would require a full commitment to a new model from everyone involved...doable but very hard.
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TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 10:03 PM EST
A2: Not having the loud noise would be good for Ss or Ts with trauma in their backgrounds.
@mrterborg
Or sensory impaired Ss.
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In reply to @mrterborg
TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 10:05 PM EST
The best things are usually what you work the hardest for, yes?
#worthit
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In reply to @MrAllPurposeRHS
pdemps45
Nov 30 @ 10:05 PM EST
A2 no bells is what it looks like on the outside, on the inside that is a lot of worthy work, conversation, & mutual understanding
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gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 10:05 PM EST
We had no bells for a while.The building seemed calmer. Many adults did not like it. We went back
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gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 9:57 PM EST
2. Adams Elem has no bells. How do you think our students would/would not benefit from a no bells/no whistles system (K-5? K-12?)
#RSDchat
TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 10:06 PM EST
But if the students responded well to it...?
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In reply to @gilliam_evelyn
mmg6459
Nov 30 @ 10:07 PM EST
A2: No bells or whistles seems like it would have a calming effect on Ss and Ts as well! I'd love to try it!
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mrterborg
Nov 30 @ 10:07 PM EST
Some schools are building sensory rooms. For all children.
https://t.co/Pc0XoFcA5I
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In reply to @TechieTcher
dr_riina
Nov 30 @ 10:08 PM EST
W/o the work, conversations,& understanding, the gains are limited, adults won't like it & it doesn't last.
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pdemps45
Nov 30 @ 10:05 PM EST
A2 no bells is what it looks like on the outside, on the inside that is a lot of worthy work, conversation, & mutual understanding
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gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 10:08 PM EST
Definitely requires more than just turning the bells off. Tchrs & Ss need protocols to function in that environment
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pdemps45
Nov 30 @ 10:05 PM EST
A2 no bells is what it looks like on the outside, on the inside that is a lot of worthy work, conversation, & mutual understanding
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TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 10:08 PM EST
You are correct. Which is why we've got to think outside the box to still make it happen given the limitations we have.
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In reply to @dr_riina
MrAllPurposeRHS
Nov 30 @ 10:09 PM EST
Like years of something that for some would feel chaotic. Every corner of the org at every level would have to be in
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In reply to @TechieTcher
pdemps45
Nov 30 @ 10:09 PM EST
Adult needs or kid needs? (no answer needed) ;)
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gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 10:05 PM EST
We had no bells for a while.The building seemed calmer. Many adults did not like it. We went back
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gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 9:57 PM EST
2. Adams Elem has no bells. How do you think our students would/would not benefit from a no bells/no whistles system (K-5? K-12?)
#RSDchat
gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 10:09 PM EST
Too hard for the adults to adjust w/out support
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TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 10:06 PM EST
But if the students responded well to it...?
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In reply to @gilliam_evelyn
dr_riina
Nov 30 @ 10:10 PM EST
Yes. And why we have to redefine the box to remove as many limitations as possible.
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In reply to @TechieTcher
MikeLaChance5
Nov 30 @ 10:11 PM EST
I believe we already have elementary school(s) down this road. We can check with Dr. Steward.
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TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 10:11 PM EST
No doubt.
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In reply to @MrAllPurposeRHS
pdemps45
Nov 30 @ 10:11 PM EST
Makes me think about why we do what we do.
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gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 10:09 PM EST
Too hard for the adults to adjust w/out support
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TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 10:06 PM EST
But if the students responded well to it...?
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In reply to @gilliam_evelyn
TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 10:11 PM EST
That makes sense.
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In reply to @gilliam_evelyn
gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 10:11 PM EST
Q 3: How would our systems need to adjust to support students in school (no out of school suspension)
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TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 10:11 PM EST
Touche'!
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In reply to @dr_riina
dr_riina
Nov 30 @ 10:12 PM EST
Does buy-in need to be rooted in turning off the bells, or something deeper, some important mental models?
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MrAllPurposeRHS
Nov 30 @ 10:09 PM EST
Like years of something that for some would feel chaotic. Every corner of the org at every level would have to be in
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In reply to @TechieTcher
TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 10:13 PM EST
Yes! My daughter is sensory impaired and have sensory spaces in our house for her.
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In reply to @mrterborg
gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 10:14 PM EST
Mental models absolutely!!
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dr_riina
Nov 30 @ 10:12 PM EST
Does buy-in need to be rooted in turning off the bells, or something deeper, some important mental models?
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MrAllPurposeRHS
Nov 30 @ 10:09 PM EST
Like years of something that for some would feel chaotic. Every corner of the org at every level would have to be in
#rsdchat
In reply to @TechieTcher
TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 10:14 PM EST
@pdemps45
So adults needs to further what Ss need?
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In reply to @pdemps45
gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 10:09 PM EST
Too hard for the adults to adjust w/out support
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TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 10:06 PM EST
But if the students responded well to it...?
#RSDchat
In reply to @gilliam_evelyn
TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 10:15 PM EST
Down which road?
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In reply to @MikeLaChance5
pdemps45
Nov 30 @ 10:15 PM EST
A3 less time spend on content more on individual emotional needs
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MrAllPurposeRHS
Nov 30 @ 10:15 PM EST
@TechieTcher
Riina, you and I are mining that pit now.
#Grind
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#ALLin
In reply to @dr_riina, @TechieTcher
gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 10:16 PM EST
Not completely sure I understand what you mean...
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TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 10:14 PM EST
@pdemps45
So adults needs to further what Ss need?
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In reply to @pdemps45
gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 10:09 PM EST
Too hard for the adults to adjust w/out support
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TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 10:06 PM EST
But if the students responded well to it...?
#RSDchat
In reply to @gilliam_evelyn
MikeLaChance5
Nov 30 @ 10:16 PM EST
No bells or whistle treatments.
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TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 10:15 PM EST
Down which road?
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In reply to @MikeLaChance5
pdemps45
Nov 30 @ 10:17 PM EST
turning off bells could be symptom of greater teacher & student understanding, relationships, teacher & student empathy
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not a focus
dr_riina
Nov 30 @ 10:12 PM EST
Does buy-in need to be rooted in turning off the bells, or something deeper, some important mental models?
#rsdchat
MrAllPurposeRHS
Nov 30 @ 10:09 PM EST
Like years of something that for some would feel chaotic. Every corner of the org at every level would have to be in
#rsdchat
In reply to @TechieTcher
TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 10:18 PM EST
A3: Common understanding of staff. It's not about a Ss 'getting off easy', but about what will help them most in the long run.
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gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 10:11 PM EST
Q 3: How would our systems need to adjust to support students in school (no out of school suspension)
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TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 10:19 PM EST
What you were saying about the teachers needing support too for the adjustment.
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In reply to @gilliam_evelyn
dr_riina
Nov 30 @ 10:19 PM EST
I hate to do go, guys, but finals are due tom. I need put all our ?s & everything into a Google Form. Tedious & painstaking. Night!
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halliesmills
Nov 30 @ 10:19 PM EST
Ss would need this understanding too.
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In reply to @TechieTcher
MrAllPurposeRHS
Nov 30 @ 10:19 PM EST
A3. There can no longer be one way to do school. All options would have to be on the table.
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#BlowUpTheBox
TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 10:20 PM EST
And just respect in general. Ss don't want Ts being dictators. It isn't working.
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In reply to @pdemps45
TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 10:21 PM EST
You have fun with that!
#elementaryforthewin
!
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In reply to @dr_riina
gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 10:22 PM EST
We must remember that we are teaching children about life... now more than ever... and we need to model restorative behaviors
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mmg6459
Nov 30 @ 10:22 PM EST
There would have to be total staff buy-in..this couldn't happen overnight..creativity and thinking outside the box.
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gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 10:11 PM EST
Q 3: How would our systems need to adjust to support students in school (no out of school suspension)
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pdemps45
Nov 30 @ 10:22 PM EST
Try Doc to Form,
https://t.co/tIY3iiTOZD
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In reply to @dr_riina
gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 10:23 PM EST
Q4: How would restorative justice promote equity in Ritenour?
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TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 10:23 PM EST
Yes! Options on the side of the table, under it, all over the place. "How we've always done it" needs to stop.
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MrAllPurposeRHS
Nov 30 @ 10:19 PM EST
A3. There can no longer be one way to do school. All options would have to be on the table.
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#BlowUpTheBox
pdemps45
Nov 30 @ 10:23 PM EST
Yes and... teachers don't want students that take advantage of, it takes mutual understanding
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TechieTcher
- Moderator
Nov 30 @ 10:20 PM EST
And just respect in general. Ss don't want Ts being dictators. It isn't working.
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In reply to @pdemps45
mmg6459
Nov 30 @ 10:24 PM EST
Common understanding as well common practices.
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In reply to @halliesmills, @TechieTcher
pdemps45
Nov 30 @ 10:27 PM EST
A4 restorative justice promotes equity by looking at the why rather than just the what,
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gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 10:28 PM EST
A4: more time and opportunities to learn
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gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 10:23 PM EST
Q4: How would restorative justice promote equity in Ritenour?
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gilliam_evelyn
Nov 30 @ 10:29 PM EST
Solutions based vs punitively based approach to behavior
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pdemps45
Nov 30 @ 10:27 PM EST
A4 restorative justice promotes equity by looking at the why rather than just the what,
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MrAllPurposeRHS
Nov 30 @ 10:29 PM EST
Authoritarianism is a real obstacle. Many want traditional approaches and strongman leaders--Ss included. Real democracy is tough
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