#mnlead Archive
A Twitter chat for leaders and learners. Sunday evenings at 7:00 CT.
Sunday April 3, 2016
8:00 PM EDT
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:00 PM EDT
For the next 60 minutes my tweets will be focused to my friends at
#MNlead
Tonight's discussion will be about leadership programs.
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:00 PM EDT
@mcarlstromDR
@mcleod
Love the humor Matt! We are all leaders. Welcome to
#mnlead
Thanks Scott for leading us tonight.
twhitford
Apr 3 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Looking forward to some great sharing & learning on the
#mnlead
chat tonight! Talking
#EdAdmin
prep programs
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Q0. Tonight we’re talking preservice
#edadmin
prep programs. But first, please share your favorite TV show from when you were a kid!
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mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:00 PM EDT
For the next 60 minutes, give or take a few, my Tweeting will be devoted to always Awesome
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Come join!
clmaxa
Apr 3 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Hey
#mnlead
Chad Maxa, from Intermediate District 287 and glad to be here. My favorite show growing up was Married With Children.
ERobbPrincipal
Apr 3 @ 8:00 PM EDT
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Evan Robb- Middle School Principal from VA- Happy to be here!
PrincipalFrench
Apr 3 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Mark, elementary principal in Maple Grove. Gearing up for Wastebasket Revue this week, singin' & dancin'.
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https://t.co/5U71bHyfkL
Clouducation_
Apr 3 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Tony, Rogers, MN ISD728 My favorite shows when I was a kid were The A-Team (when I was younger) and The X-Files (when I was older)
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txeduchat
Apr 3 @ 8:00 PM EDT
1 hour away The Power of Play on
#txeduchat
w/ host
@jedikermit
at 8pm Central
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#21stedchat
#PlayLAP
https://t.co/Xl1LGmmlmu
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Great to have you joining
#mnlead
,
@twhitford
!
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Super cool to have
@mcleod
moderating
#MNlead
chat tonight!
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Matt from Northfield, MN. My favorite TV show? Probably the Different Strokes/Facts of Life hour on NBC!
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GetAlma
Apr 3 @ 8:01 PM EDT
The time is now-
@GetAlma
today to start next school year off on the right foot!
https://t.co/tMkGqkaPQY
#nhed
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#wischat
#sced
K12TL
Apr 3 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Glad to be here
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#edadmin
chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:01 PM EDT
A0: Chris, MS Principal from Farmington. I had many peanut butter and jelly sandwiches watching this show!
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https://t.co/qWuer2F4CF
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Jason from Farmington - I loved to watch Batman
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PrincipalFrench
Apr 3 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Q0) As a kid, I loved "Lost In Space".
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mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:01 PM EDT
And a great program it was,
@chris_bussmann
!
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mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:01 PM EDT
My favorite show growing up was Leave It to Beaver!
#overthetop
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bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Ohhhh - great hour of TV
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https://t.co/8KTWa1VW1w
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Matt from Northfield, MN. My favorite TV show? Probably the Different Strokes/Facts of Life hour on NBC!
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jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Howdy - Jen from Byron. Hmmm... When I was a kid? Might have to be Scooby Doo (after school) or Bugs Bunny on Sat!
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JennReichel
Apr 3 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Jenn Reichel from Hastings here! Loved "Facts of Life" as a kid.
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mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Q1. Regarding INSTRUCTIONAL LEADERSHIP, what did your preservice
#edadmin
prep program do well?
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K12TL
Apr 3 @ 8:02 PM EDT
@Clouducation
#mnlead
Me Too!
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Great to have you going
#mnlead
,
@ERobbPrincipal
!
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Another great one!!
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https://t.co/DLdjNKOOxq
chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:01 PM EDT
A0: Chris, MS Principal from Farmington. I had many peanut butter and jelly sandwiches watching this show!
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https://t.co/qWuer2F4CF
mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:02 PM EDT
A0) Matt Carlstrom -
@isd317
Social Studies, Coaching, Technology… lots of hats. Fav TV? Uffda! Greatest American Hero.
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robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:02 PM EDT
A0 Great ?, my favorite childhood shows included; Giligan's Island, Batman, & Lost in Space. Otherwise, it was
@Cubs
games on Ch. 9!
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Neepernu
Apr 3 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Adrienne, Instructional Facilitator from Cass Lake, MN-- considering taking the leap into admin! Loony Tunes!
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jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:02 PM EDT
@JennReichel
I forgot about that show! Yes.... I enjoyed that one. Was it after Different strokes?
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SPPS_Richardson
Apr 3 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Paul Richardson from
@SPPS_News
&
@HamlineU
Principal License program. Favorite show? Oddly enough, Colombo.
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https://t.co/oRKyRMUDJJ
MoralesPattie
Apr 3 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Q0) Pattie from Milwaukee. Favorite tv show as a kid was PeeWee's Playhouse (Sat tradition w/ my dad)
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mlament
Apr 3 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Hi, Michelle from Rosemount, MN! My favorite show was the Dukes of Hazard! Friday night favorite.
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K12TL
Apr 3 @ 8:02 PM EDT
@jenhegna
#mnlead
still among my favorites!
twhitford
Apr 3 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Q0: Fav show from my childhood....... Has to be Scooby Doo
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K12TL
Apr 3 @ 8:03 PM EDT
@Neepernu
#mnlead
take the leap for students!
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:03 PM EDT
A1 - the best part of my admin program was the instructors. Really gave great real-life examples and application
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clmaxa
Apr 3 @ 8:03 PM EDT
A1: I didn't take this path. I did computer science and MBA in tech mgmt. Sometimes I think its ok I didn't take the traditional way
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korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Kory, Innovations T from Byron. One of my favorite TV shows as a kid was "Little House on the Prairie." Stayed up late on Mondays!
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amyarbogash
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Q0 Amy from Green Bay, WI. Tech integration specialist. We loved watching the TGIF shows on ABC!
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jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:03 PM EDT
@MoralesPattie
Did you see that PeeWee is on Netflix now?
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chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:03 PM EDT
@mcarlstromDR
@isd317
I loved that show, if only for the theme song!
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Clouducation_
Apr 3 @ 8:03 PM EDT
A1: My EdLd program did a great job with teaching us about quality research, pedagogy, and methods.
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SupAnger
Apr 3 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Gary from Zumbrota Mazeppa, big Fan of HR PuffnStuff as a kid-why, I have no idea
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K12TL
Apr 3 @ 8:04 PM EDT
@SPPS_Richardson
@SPPS_News
@HamlineU
#mnlead
I still watch it every sunday night on a local access tv channel!
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Q1. Regarding INSTRUCTIONAL LEADERSHIP, what did your preservice
#edadmin
prep program do well?
#mnlead
@mcleo
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:04 PM EDT
@mlament
Oh... and I had serious crush on Bo Duke!
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amyarbogash
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:04 PM EDT
@MoralesPattie
We watched that one too!
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clmaxa
Apr 3 @ 8:04 PM EDT
I did, but haven't watched it yet!
@jenhegna
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https://t.co/9eAVs7oBzi
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:03 PM EDT
@MoralesPattie
Did you see that PeeWee is on Netflix now?
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mlament
Apr 3 @ 8:04 PM EDT
A1) The inservice was what really made my Instructional Leadership program valuable and deepened my learning.
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JennReichel
Apr 3 @ 8:04 PM EDT
A1. Best parts were the message that being an admin is a 24 hour job, there is no silver bullet and there are many ways to lead.
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ERobbPrincipal
Apr 3 @ 8:04 PM EDT
@mcleod
A1
#mnlead
Learned a lot about instructional design and ways to motivate staff to change!
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:04 PM EDT
@korytellers
I loved that show... every once in a while I catch reruns of it. All around goodness!
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PrincipalFrench
Apr 3 @ 8:04 PM EDT
A1) Made me develop a growth mindset.
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robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:05 PM EDT
A1 prep program provided a foundation of edu law, edu finance, action research ect. Lots of theory & documentation review
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twhitford
Apr 3 @ 8:05 PM EDT
A1: Best part of my pre service Ed Admin program was the cohort model. Getting 2 know the other Ss & talking our way thru projects
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wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Wade - Asst. Supt in Marble Falls, Texas. Favorite show was M.A.S.H
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https://t.co/GRt5aOthXP
mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:05 PM EDT
@SupAnger
Try to explain that show to kids now… I dare you! Any of the Sid and Marty Kroft Shows… LOL
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K12TL
Apr 3 @ 8:05 PM EDT
@amyarbogash
#mnlead
Full House, Family Matters, oh I remember those friday nights!
MoralesPattie
Apr 3 @ 8:05 PM EDT
@jenhegna
yes, but my dad just gave my kiddos the dvd's, so it's all they watch now :)
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korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:05 PM EDT
@jenhegna
It's funny to think now I live close by many of the places Laura lived and were talked about on the show.
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mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:05 PM EDT
A1 Learning about the LBWA/Leading by Walking around concept. Can’t lead instruction from your office!
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SPPS_Richardson
Apr 3 @ 8:05 PM EDT
A1: mid-program at Hamline- I appreciate the focus on Cultural Competency. It comes up everyday in my role as a literacy specialist.
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bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Agreed - I love the cohort model. Still connect with many from my group about lots of things
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https://t.co/EEqOMIvmUS
twhitford
Apr 3 @ 8:05 PM EDT
A1: Best part of my pre service Ed Admin program was the cohort model. Getting 2 know the other Ss & talking our way thru projects
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clmaxa
Apr 3 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Practical application is critical, great point. Did they focus on student voice?
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@bergjaso
https://t.co/4HQEdJIg2G
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:03 PM EDT
A1 - the best part of my admin program was the instructors. Really gave great real-life examples and application
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ERobbPrincipal
Apr 3 @ 8:06 PM EDT
@clmaxa
A1
#Mnlead
- I did an MBA first - was a big help for Ed admin!
SupAnger
Apr 3 @ 8:06 PM EDT
A1) My program really established my initial network of Ed leaders, many of whom I still connect w regularly
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chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:06 PM EDT
A1: Learned quickly that in tough times when everyone starts looking around the table for answers you have to come up with them.
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MoralesPattie
Apr 3 @ 8:06 PM EDT
@mlament
our pastor and his kids would come watch that at our house every week!
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bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:06 PM EDT
@clmaxa
Not as much as we should have
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twhitford
Apr 3 @ 8:06 PM EDT
A1: at the time we read lots of current articles and did a lot of reflecting on what we read. Great Discussions!!
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mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:06 PM EDT
@wadestanford
WE have a Winner! This was my family’s Tuesday night on channel 4, CBS in the Twin Cities. It’s still “comfort food”
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korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:06 PM EDT
A1 I'm not in any admin program so I can't really say.
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mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:06 PM EDT
@twhitford
What kind of projects helped you become better instructional leaders?
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bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:06 PM EDT
A1 We had the opportunity to learn about inter-rater reliability. My teacher obs were very touchy-feely w/o any instructional fdbck.
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robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:06 PM EDT
@SupAnger
I'm with you, I see some of this stuff on classic cable & slap myself in the forehead, "what was I thinking?"
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mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:06 PM EDT
@PrincipalFrench
How did that help you become a better instructional leader?
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mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Q1. We're talking INSTRUCTIONAL LEADERSHIP: What did your preservice
#edadmin
prep program do well?
#mnlead
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:07 PM EDT
A1) No
#edadmin
prep... Just 20 years of observation, research, and experience was my formal classroom!
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amyarbogash
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:07 PM EDT
A1 I feel like my program did a great job reaching all aspects of leadership and finding profs who could speak to each.
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mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:07 PM EDT
@mahillmann
Yes! Am amazed, though, at how hard it is to make this happen...
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PrincipalFrench
Apr 3 @ 8:07 PM EDT
@mcleod
By not settling for the status quo.
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mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:07 PM EDT
@korytellers
I’m with Kory.
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filipetti
Apr 3 @ 8:07 PM EDT
@mcarlstromDR
@bretdom
@mcleod
how about Canadians? 🇨🇦Mike from just north of the MN border in Thunder Bay, ON.
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mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:07 PM EDT
@SPPS_Richardson
That's awesome, Paul. So glad Hamline's focus in this area has been helpful!
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robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:07 PM EDT
@jenhegna
@mlament
Mine was Linda Carter's Wonderwoman, & I preferred MaryAnn to Ginger.
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clmaxa
Apr 3 @ 8:08 PM EDT
My concern is what it will take to gain lic in Minnesota! Just like what our Ss sometimes go through
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https://t.co/pLNhS8CX92
ERobbPrincipal
Apr 3 @ 8:06 PM EDT
@clmaxa
A1
#Mnlead
- I did an MBA first - was a big help for Ed admin!
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:08 PM EDT
@ERobbPrincipal
@clmaxa
Would like to hear more about this. How so?
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korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:08 PM EDT
@mcarlstromDR
Whispering, "Not a goal of mine at all." :)
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bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1.1 to be honest I learned most about instructional leadership as an instructional coach - had time to research, apply, and reflect
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mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:08 PM EDT
At the end of the day, it is an intentional choice. Our calendar shows our priorities!
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https://t.co/QQVGj3QDKr
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:07 PM EDT
@mahillmann
Yes! Am amazed, though, at how hard it is to make this happen...
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bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:08 PM EDT
@filipetti
Welcome to
#mnlead
Mike! Glad to have you. All are welcome here.
wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1 The best part of my
#edadmin
prep program at
@utarlington
was the cohort model & the professors. Learned so much from both!
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mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:08 PM EDT
@robert_schuetz
@jenhegna
@mlament
Ahhh… I’m with Robert!
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mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:08 PM EDT
@bretdom
That's pretty interesting...
#foodforthought
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twhitford
Apr 3 @ 8:08 PM EDT
@mcleod
We created the actual documents we would be using in
#EdAdmin
role. Created curriculum docs, & practiced giving PD sessions
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clmaxa
Apr 3 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Not that they have all the answers either, but an important element
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@bergjaso
https://t.co/IPvPfhkwEp
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:06 PM EDT
@clmaxa
Not as much as we should have
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Clouducation_
Apr 3 @ 8:09 PM EDT
#mnlead
, I do believe it is
@korytellers
' birthday today...
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:09 PM EDT
I had a great course in my Master’s about instructional design that I still lean on today.
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https://t.co/4v7xN7Xcct
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1.1 to be honest I learned most about instructional leadership as an instructional coach - had time to research, apply, and reflect
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sthomaschefsky
Apr 3 @ 8:09 PM EDT
A1 currently in my CTE I would say it is connections
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bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:09 PM EDT
@mcleod
I didn't know what I was missing until l learned what we need to grow as teachers. 7 years w/o that knowing.
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bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:09 PM EDT
@clmaxa
I think a huge element - we need students to be active participants in their learning
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mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:09 PM EDT
@PrincipalFrench
How do you translate to staff and students? :)
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mlament
Apr 3 @ 8:09 PM EDT
@korytellers
@mcarlstromDR
Teachers Leaders
#Rock
!
#mnlead
So valuable to have as part of the school culture.
raypeyton
Apr 3 @ 8:09 PM EDT
@mcleod
#mnlead
I was made to think of learning in all phases of life. Not restricted to classroom instruction. Real life
chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:09 PM EDT
A1.2: I learned good instruction can be universally applied regardless of content. It's all about the creativity of the instructor.
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robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:10 PM EDT
@SupAnger
Good point, many of our district leaders cut our teeth together in our admin program. We know each other's strengths.
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jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:10 PM EDT
@clmaxa
Do you have your lic?
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korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:10 PM EDT
@Clouducation_
Yes! Yes, it is! :)
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PrincipalFrench
Apr 3 @ 8:10 PM EDT
@mcleod
Always be willing to do whatever it takes and be innovative.
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SPPS_Richardson
Apr 3 @ 8:10 PM EDT
@bergjaso
in that role at 12 schools, to varying degrees. I feel lucky I get to interact w/ different building cultures and styles.
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bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:10 PM EDT
@mlament
@korytellers
@mcarlstromDR
I see many changes happening because of teacher leaders. We need it at all levels.
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mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:10 PM EDT
As usual, it is the people and relationships that make the difference!
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https://t.co/uuw0maUQyb
amyarbogash
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:07 PM EDT
A1 I feel like my program did a great job reaching all aspects of leadership and finding profs who could speak to each.
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JennReichel
Apr 3 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1.2 I've learned so much more about giving feedback from my part time job with TNTP. Feels like paid PD with a purpose!
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wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:10 PM EDT
That could be the most valuable learning experience!!
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https://t.co/o1QLxRldeW
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:07 PM EDT
A1) No
#edadmin
prep... Just 20 years of observation, research, and experience was my formal classroom!
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ERobbPrincipal
Apr 3 @ 8:10 PM EDT
@mcleod
@clmaxa
A1
#mnlead
An MBA teachers you to manage money- allowing more for students and staff- plus lots on organizational theory!
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:10 PM EDT
@bretdom
Really fascinating. We don't do a great job of helping Ts think through leadership lenses.
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bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:11 PM EDT
Bada BOOM!
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https://t.co/8D3nEmdGoL
chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:09 PM EDT
A1.2: I learned good instruction can be universally applied regardless of content. It's all about the creativity of the instructor.
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clmaxa
Apr 3 @ 8:11 PM EDT
Many educators dont have a perspective outside education; it helps to balance out decision making
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@mcleod
https://t.co/FDkYR8McXZ
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:08 PM EDT
@ERobbPrincipal
@clmaxa
Would like to hear more about this. How so?
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bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:11 PM EDT
Gives us the ability to get out of "level" - great learning!!
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https://t.co/0CeS6NIyxC
SPPS_Richardson
Apr 3 @ 8:10 PM EDT
@bergjaso
in that role at 12 schools, to varying degrees. I feel lucky I get to interact w/ different building cultures and styles.
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jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:11 PM EDT
@wadestanford
@utarlington
How many of your Prof's were recent Admin?
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clmaxa
Apr 3 @ 8:11 PM EDT
No
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@jenhegna
https://t.co/aA31sqAaJ6
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:10 PM EDT
@clmaxa
Do you have your lic?
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wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:11 PM EDT
The difference maker is a great teacher!!
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https://t.co/EizHeeTUGk
chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:09 PM EDT
A1.2: I learned good instruction can be universally applied regardless of content. It's all about the creativity of the instructor.
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mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:11 PM EDT
Q2. Regarding INSTRUCTIONAL LEADERSHIP, what do you wish your preservice
#edadmin
prep program had done that it didn't?
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mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:12 PM EDT
So, let me guess,
@wadestanford
, it was about strong relationships? ;) Good to see you here my friend.
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https://t.co/ONeOWhwGE8
wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1 The best part of my
#edadmin
prep program at
@utarlington
was the cohort model & the professors. Learned so much from both!
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wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:12 PM EDT
@jenhegna
@utarlington
All had been admin but had been removed several years.
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robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:13 PM EDT
@SPPS_Richardson
Paul, I did my student teaching at Winona HS, my supervising T was Paul Richardson, any relation?
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jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:13 PM EDT
@clmaxa
@mcleod
That is an awesome point Chad! As we are prep S's for their future.. need to have good perspective of what that is!
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Clouducation_
Apr 3 @ 8:13 PM EDT
A2) Before I jumped programs, I was struggling with the relative stagnancy & lack of progressive thought in my early EDLD classes.
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bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:13 PM EDT
A2 - I wished we would have focused more on supporting student to become their own best teachers
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chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:13 PM EDT
A2: I wish for those entering admin: how to seek a good home/work balance. I took me way too long to figure it out.
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bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Q2. Regarding INSTRUCTIONAL LEADERSHIP, what do you wish your preservice
#edadmin
prep program had done that it didn't?
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Neepernu
Apr 3 @ 8:13 PM EDT
@clmaxa
@mcleod
And keeps you relevant-- if all we know is ed, how can we anticipate careers our students will be going into?
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JennReichel
Apr 3 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2. While it may feel uncomfortable, more role plays of difficult situations. Great opportunity to "try on" different strategies.
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sandeeteach
Apr 3 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2 Just ready to start practicum- hoping to see modeling! We'll see!
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wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:14 PM EDT
@mahillmann
Truth Matt! We had @ ten of us that developed very deep relationships during our year together. Great to see you too.
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PrincipalFrench
Apr 3 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2) How to deal with difficult situations and individuals. Also, managing human resources issues.
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twhitford
Apr 3 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2: I had wished my program focused more on innovation. Schools that were pushing boundaries. "innovation" barely used back then
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chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2: I wish for those entering admin: How to seek a good home/work balance. It took me way too long to find it.
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:15 PM EDT
@bergjaso
I love this response!! Wait until you see Q3, ha ha! :)
#mnlead
ERobbPrincipal
Apr 3 @ 8:15 PM EDT
@clmaxa
@mcleod
A1
#mnlead
- I agree I did my MBA while teaching and my MEd too
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2.1 - Most prep programs - teacher and admin - still have the focus on adults making all the educational decisions
#mnlead
Neepernu
Apr 3 @ 8:15 PM EDT
@chris_bussmann
This is what makes me hesitate... my children are both very young right now. How do you balance?
#mnlead
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:15 PM EDT
@bergjaso
Agree, I would have liked to experience practical experience in creating learning experiences such as
#PBL
.
#mnlead
amyarbogash
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2 In some classes, too many papers on leadership. We needed more experience in situations, collaboration, discussion, innovation.
#mnlead
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2 I had a great experience. Programs cannot offer or predict everything leaders will need. I supplemented on my own as needed.
#mnlead
mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:16 PM EDT
@Neepernu
@clmaxa
@mcleod
I entered Ed late After a 10 year career in Rest. Mgmt & other jobs. I know its helped me in the CR.
#mnlead
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A2 I wish we had spent more time talking about instructional leadership. It was one class then on to the next thing.
#mnlead
SupAnger
Apr 3 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A2) My program unfortunately was light on Special Ed and USING data for school improvement
#mnlead
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:16 PM EDT
@mcleod
we do love our move towards a personalized learning approaching in
#isd192
@chris_bussmann
#mnlead
wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:16 PM EDT
Not sure that we even understood innovation when I went thru my program!!
#mnlead
https://t.co/HXnnl3WudG
twhitford
Apr 3 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2: I had wished my program focused more on innovation. Schools that were pushing boundaries. "innovation" barely used back then
#mnlead
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A2 My program was back in the '80s. We spent a lot of time on Gardner's learning styles. Shows you how things change.
#mnlead
VeliaViola1
Apr 3 @ 8:16 PM EDT
Hi Velia Admin joining in,
#mnlead
Clouducation_
Apr 3 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A2) I remember being told my vision of being out of the office and in classrooms most of the day was unrealistic.
#mnlead
ERobbPrincipal
Apr 3 @ 8:16 PM EDT
@mcleod
A2
#mnlead
My program needed more focus on local challenges VS State and National Also, more on scheduling!
PrincipalFrench
Apr 3 @ 8:16 PM EDT
I'm so old my admin programs were 30 years ago!
#mnlead
MoralesPattie
Apr 3 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A2) tbh an admin program scares me, but I'd like to learn more about leadership in a coaching role...
#mnlead
chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A2: I wish I had cognitive coaching experience as part of my prep program. Reframes the conversation!
#mnlead
mlament
Apr 3 @ 8:16 PM EDT
@mahillmann
Agree! You can’t sit back and wait for learning to happen, you have to get out there and make it happen for you.
#mnlead
sandeeteach
Apr 3 @ 8:16 PM EDT
@bergjaso
True! In my classes- little to any talk of student voice/empowerment
#mnlead
clmaxa
Apr 3 @ 8:16 PM EDT
Great point
@mahillmann
! No matter what our education, we need to always be in charge of our learning!
#mnlead
https://t.co/5t7h5Opptk
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2 I had a great experience. Programs cannot offer or predict everything leaders will need. I supplemented on my own as needed.
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:17 PM EDT
Q2. We're talking INSTRUCTIONAL LEADERSHIP: What do you wish your preservice
#edadmin
prep program had done that it didn't?
#mnlead
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2 Same here. I supplemented schooling with my
#PLN
to push and connect what I knew to what I was learning.
#mnlead
https://t.co/xBLzUZej41
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2 I had a great experience. Programs cannot offer or predict everything leaders will need. I supplemented on my own as needed.
#mnlead
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@bretdom
Interesting point. As you reflect on your program - was instructional leadership a top competency?
#mnlead
mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@amyarbogash
I’ve got friends now who are in ED LD programs and can’t believe how much is theoretical and how many papers…
#mnlead
filipetti
Apr 3 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2 I would spend more time on instructional leadership.
#mnlead
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:17 PM EDT
Simulations and role play are key. We did this often in my supervision/eval class. Very helpful.
#mnlead
https://t.co/WB0EE0BdMF
JennReichel
Apr 3 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2. While it may feel uncomfortable, more role plays of difficult situations. Great opportunity to "try on" different strategies.
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@robert_schuetz
That makes me think about Madeline Hunter, does anyone bring her name up anymore in edu conversations? :)
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@bretdom
YES, that drives me nuts. Only one broad class on instructional leadership in MANY
#edadmin
prep programs. Really?!
#mnlead
LauraGWillis
Apr 3 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2: I wish the school of life focused on people skills. How many frustrations would seem insignificant if people practiced empathy?
#mnlead
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:17 PM EDT
Nothing is unrealistic - we need to prioritize what we value
#mnlead
https://t.co/oS2w9UFJ0f
Clouducation_
Apr 3 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A2) I remember being told my vision of being out of the office and in classrooms most of the day was unrealistic.
#mnlead
sthomaschefsky
Apr 3 @ 8:18 PM EDT
A2 as an instructional tech coach and obtaining my admin I am still amazed that papers every week I is still the norm
#mnlead
VeliaViola1
Apr 3 @ 8:18 PM EDT
A1
#edadmin
program provided worst case scenarios and worked through them.
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:18 PM EDT
@Clouducation_
How long ago was that?
#mnlead
mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:18 PM EDT
@PrincipalFrench
And you don’t look/act as if they were more than 20 years ago!
#mnlead
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:18 PM EDT
@mcarlstromDR
@amyarbogash
I would love to see more action research/Eportfolio/reflection than papers! (IMHO)
#mnlead
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:18 PM EDT
@PrincipalFrench
Yes, I remember role playing being a very interesting eye opener. Had current supt as instructor.
#anxious
moments
#mnlead
wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:18 PM EDT
A2 Would have liked to see additional thoughts on effective teacher intervention in attempt to help struggling Ts.
#mnlead
TiawanaG
Apr 3 @ 8:18 PM EDT
This is what leadership is about. It's ppl not programs. What are you willing to do, to be successful?
#mnlead
https://t.co/LfgY0ROLo5
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2 I had a great experience. Programs cannot offer or predict everything leaders will need. I supplemented on my own as needed.
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:18 PM EDT
@SupAnger
Is your program focusing more on Special Ed and DBDM now? Many are...
#mnlead
sandeeteach
Apr 3 @ 8:18 PM EDT
@Clouducation_
It's still said...unfortunately Is it because so many future admin/ and teachers are not connected eds?
#mnlead
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:18 PM EDT
@jenhegna
As I hear more from colleagues, it is changing to that. At the time it was a toe dip in a lot of competencies.
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:18 PM EDT
@Clouducation_
Although, from what I observe, it is very hard for admin to be out and about as much as they want. Meetings, etc..
#mnlead
amyarbogash
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:18 PM EDT
@mcarlstromDR
It is unreal how universities are still stuck in the model that the # of papers you write produces quality educators.
#mnlead
wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:19 PM EDT
BAM!!!
#mnlead
https://t.co/NlPu1rI5Xv
LauraGWillis
Apr 3 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2: I wish the school of life focused on people skills. How many frustrations would seem insignificant if people practiced empathy?
#mnlead
mlament
Apr 3 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A2) My blended learning format as a program offered little learning during the online portion, this could have been designed better.
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@Clouducation_
All I have to say to that is... uff da
#mnlead
mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@korytellers
@robert_schuetz
We’ve had young Ts come in Dist. who are still being taught Hunter…
#mnlead
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:19 PM EDT
We often wait for someone else - ‘the district’ or ‘the state’ - to do it. Take initiative & go create it!
#mnlead
https://t.co/S5Y2bu2RqB
mlament
Apr 3 @ 8:16 PM EDT
@mahillmann
Agree! You can’t sit back and wait for learning to happen, you have to get out there and make it happen for you.
#mnlead
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@korytellers
Anticipatory set! I have binders of lesson plans from my 1st year teaching. Hunter lives throughout them!
#mnlead
clmaxa
Apr 3 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A2: I think many programs lack adequate change theory, and they lack adult learning theory.
#mnlead
amyarbogash
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@jenhegna
@mcarlstromDR
Totally agree!
#mnlead
Neepernu
Apr 3 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@chris_bussmann
There is a cog coaching session in Plymouth this summer-- I think my coaching staff is attending!
#mnlead
jenlegatt
Apr 3 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A1: When I took Admin Finance to fill an elective for my EdTech Masters, my classmates liked my per pupil formula Excel doc. (Geek!)
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@Clouducation_
Do you think that opinion has changed very much in 7 years?
#mnlead
sandeeteach
Apr 3 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@PrincipalFrench
I learn more from you and PLN than ANY textbook or class that I've been in this year!
#mnlead
chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:19 PM EDT
Theory is fine, but the learning takes place on active case studies!
#mnlead
https://t.co/eX0nWwk9VT
mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@amyarbogash
I’ve got friends now who are in ED LD programs and can’t believe how much is theoretical and how many papers…
#mnlead
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:19 PM EDT
Well said!
#mnlead
https://t.co/HuEmISiIzw
TiawanaG
Apr 3 @ 8:18 PM EDT
This is what leadership is about. It's ppl not programs. What are you willing to do, to be successful?
#mnlead
https://t.co/LfgY0ROLo5
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2 I had a great experience. Programs cannot offer or predict everything leaders will need. I supplemented on my own as needed.
#mnlead
mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@jenhegna
@amyarbogash
So would my friends!
#mnlead
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A2) I wish my
#edleadership
program gave me more ideas strategies to work with admin!
#mnlead
CRLeatherbarrow
Apr 3 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A1 My internship. I am still grateful to my then principal for sharing his work, vision, and advice. Still keep all of that in mind.
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:20 PM EDT
@korytellers
@robert_schuetz
Yes, they probably do! But maybe have replaced with Danielson...
#mnlead
chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:20 PM EDT
You'll love it. Not about providing feedback, rather asking reflection type questions.
#mnlead
https://t.co/FiMnHbJkE7
Neepernu
Apr 3 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@chris_bussmann
There is a cog coaching session in Plymouth this summer-- I think my coaching staff is attending!
#mnlead
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:20 PM EDT
@mcleod
@Clouducation_
Do you think there is a shift nowadays from that old school mentality?
#mnlead
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:20 PM EDT
@chris_bussmann
How true is this?!? Constantly reflect - weigh priorities. Happy Ts are more effective.
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:20 PM EDT
@robert_schuetz
Yes! The good old anticipatory set! Oh, the memories I have of those lesson plans!
#mnlead
TiawanaG
Apr 3 @ 8:20 PM EDT
Great program @ U of Richmond in VA. Just laid the foundation. Every school has different needs.
#mnlead
Be flexible
https://t.co/4jUUv0R9SY
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:17 PM EDT
Q2. We're talking INSTRUCTIONAL LEADERSHIP: What do you wish your preservice
#edadmin
prep program had done that it didn't?
#mnlead
wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:20 PM EDT
Spot on Matt! Did the same. I was working in an Asst. Principal role as I went thru the program.
#mnlead
https://t.co/K6H3fhRGNq
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2 I had a great experience. Programs cannot offer or predict everything leaders will need. I supplemented on my own as needed.
#mnlead
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:21 PM EDT
Cognitive Coaching is great PD. A must for leaders!
#mnlead
https://t.co/HCSYrQteCL
Neepernu
Apr 3 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@chris_bussmann
There is a cog coaching session in Plymouth this summer-- I think my coaching staff is attending!
#mnlead
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:21 PM EDT
YES!!! I just finished and have been using it w T's. So much more empowering in T development.
#mnlead
https://t.co/DIs2T4y1yf
chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:20 PM EDT
You'll love it. Not about providing feedback, rather asking reflection type questions.
#mnlead
https://t.co/FiMnHbJkE7
Neepernu
Apr 3 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@chris_bussmann
There is a cog coaching session in Plymouth this summer-- I think my coaching staff is attending!
#mnlead
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:21 PM EDT
@mcarlstromDR
@amyarbogash
The paper is not most likely going to be read by anyone but you and your Prof. Need relavent audience
#mnlead
mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:21 PM EDT
@amyarbogash
K-12 Education is a slow boat to turn… Upper Ed, may be even slower to turn in someways…
#mnlead
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:21 PM EDT
@bergjaso
Great point here. Many programs are modeling & perpetuating outdated edu practices.
#mnlead
chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:21 PM EDT
@robert_schuetz
Everyone who has more personal time is more satisfied and focused!
#mnlead
KarinHogen
Apr 3 @ 8:21 PM EDT
Karin joining late. I left a job last year with WORST LEADERSHIP EVER now at a great place. It's night and day.
#mnlead
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:21 PM EDT
Agree 100%
#mnlead
https://t.co/pHrDyOv9EY
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:21 PM EDT
@bergjaso
Great point here. Many programs are modeling & perpetuating outdated edu practices.
#mnlead
VeliaViola1
Apr 3 @ 8:21 PM EDT
@CRLeatherbarrow
Its a blessing Cheryl to have a master teacher share their insight.
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Q3. Regarding STUDENT AGENCY & ENGAGEMENT, what did your preservice
#edadmin
prep program do well?
#mnlead
iPrincipalJJ
Apr 3 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A2: I think understanding that having a tough conversation sooner instead of later. The conversation will happen just a Matt of when
#mnlead
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Willing to share? I love a good per pupil funding calculation spreadsheet!
#mnlead
https://t.co/XP7RBwOsGG
jenlegatt
Apr 3 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A1: When I took Admin Finance to fill an elective for my EdTech Masters, my classmates liked my per pupil formula Excel doc. (Geek!)
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:22 PM EDT
@mcarlstromDR
@amyarbogash
I alway say if you think K-12 moves slow, come to higher ed! ;)
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:22 PM EDT
@robert_schuetz
@bergjaso
Why is that? I have such a hard time understanding that.
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:23 PM EDT
@KarinHogen
Amazing how much difference the leadership can make re: culture, climate...
#mnlead
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:23 PM EDT
@Neepernu
@mcleod
Yet many pieces of research show how essential effective instructional leadership is. Turning the ship is slow...
#mnlead
PrincipalFrench
Apr 3 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A3) Practically nothing!
#mnlead
JEngebretson75
Apr 3 @ 8:23 PM EDT
@Clouducation_
Have you been able to be in classrooms as much as you would like? This is something I think will be difficult?
#mnlead
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:23 PM EDT
@CRLeatherbarrow
I am curious how often the internship process is evaluated? Good thing you got a good A. Are all A mentors good?
#mnlead
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A3 - most of the focus in my program was on that of adult actions and decision making - very compliant in nature
#mnlead
Clouducation_
Apr 3 @ 8:23 PM EDT
FWIW: The best book I was asked to read for EDLD classes was Senge's Fifth Discipline. I recommend it to everyone in leadrdshp.
#mnlead
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:23 PM EDT
Holy Cow!
#mnlead
is on fire tonight talking
#edleadership
prep w/
@mcleod
. Still time to join in,
#mnmasa
! Qs here:
https://t.co/sdupqyUtnJ
twhitford
Apr 3 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A3: Nothing! Not a bit about student agency, personalized learning, nada! I shouldn't be surprised. I'm from a pretty isolated area
#mnlead
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:24 PM EDT
@korytellers
@bergjaso
Long time veteran educators comfortable in their ways. Long established patterns, "if it ain't broke..."
#mnlead
sandeeteach
Apr 3 @ 8:24 PM EDT
@mcleod
@mcarlstromDR
@amyarbogash
Lectures and papers, reading and answering questions about ENGAGING learners...sigh
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:24 PM EDT
@Neepernu
@bretdom
Because the current admins are doing... management?
#mnlead
mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:24 PM EDT
@sandeeteach
@mcleod
@amyarbogash
The 50’s called and want their methods back…
#mnlead
chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A3: Honor student voice and opinion every opportunity you can. As a school, you are either a community or a hierarchy.
#mnlead
iPrincipalJJ
Apr 3 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A3: I wish they would have focused more on stratifies to engage Ss. All we have is what we did and what the T is doing. Then what?
#mnlead
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:24 PM EDT
@jenhegna
@mcarlstromDR
@amyarbogash
Yes, indeed!!!
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:24 PM EDT
@Neepernu
@mcarlstromDR
@robert_schuetz
Hahahahaha!
#mnlead
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:25 PM EDT
@mcleod
@Neepernu
Yes, and there is a need for that but it is not the only "important" job in leadership.
#mnlead
CRLeatherbarrow
Apr 3 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A2 If I were to design an ed leadership program right now, I would include a focus on growing a PLN to learn from and network with.
#mnlead
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:25 PM EDT
Q3. Regarding STUDENT AGENCY & ENGAGEMENT, what did your preservice
#edadmin
prep program do well?
#mnlead
@mcleo
SupAnger
Apr 3 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A3) I was fortunate to learn that we can't possibly be experts on everything and that people don't want experts anyway
#mnlead
ERobbPrincipal
Apr 3 @ 8:25 PM EDT
@mcleod
A3
#mnlead
My program did very little 21st century skills- but hey it was 1994-- wish I had more on ended learning VS compliance
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A3 My program focused on servant leadership & building relationships as core to each course. I give them an A+ for it.
#mnlead
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:25 PM EDT
I am in a major metro area and my experience was the same
#mnlead
https://t.co/r94mzZWn9S
twhitford
Apr 3 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A3: Nothing! Not a bit about student agency, personalized learning, nada! I shouldn't be surprised. I'm from a pretty isolated area
#mnlead
SPPS_Richardson
Apr 3 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A3: The engagement w/ Cultural Competency work and Racial Equity leads us to some great Culturally Responsive Teaching exploration.
#mnlead
amyarbogash
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A3 Not a whole lot. :( I took it upon myself to share things with my cohort from my district and what we were working on.
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:25 PM EDT
@robert_schuetz
@bergjaso
Maybe I embrace change too easily, but wow does that seem all sorts of wrong to me.
#mnlead
JennReichel
Apr 3 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A3. Pretty limited in this area. Facilitating a good disc about what engagement (not compliance) would have been a good start.
#mnlead
chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:26 PM EDT
Adult actions are easy. The master comes when they can lead student actions.
#mnlead
https://t.co/GLo22MhAtQ
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A3 - most of the focus in my program was on that of adult actions and decision making - very compliant in nature
#mnlead
sandeeteach
Apr 3 @ 8:26 PM EDT
@mcarlstromDR
@mcleod
@amyarbogash
LOL I share what I'm learning from PLN to peers...sounds like foreign lang..don't get it
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:26 PM EDT
@iPrincipalJJ
I think this is a very important point. School structures matter. Can't just leave to / blame individual STs or Ts...
#mnlead
sthomaschefsky
Apr 3 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A3 I can honestly say nothing so far but my 17yrs in the classroom taught me student voice and all decisions need to be about Ss
#mnlead
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A3) I had a little Universal Design for learning training that was very beneficial.
#mnlead
twhitford
Apr 3 @ 8:26 PM EDT
@Clouducation_
we had no leadership style books. Nothing on leading change, discussed each other's experiences, no good books
#mnlead
jenlegatt
Apr 3 @ 8:26 PM EDT
@mahillmann
That was ten years ago! I don't know if I could even find the file anymore, but it was so much fun to build. :)
#mnlead
wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A3 Had a excellent class on Student Diversity. Opened my eyes to embracing each & every student.
#mnlead
mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:26 PM EDT
@mahillmann
I’m a huge fan of servant leadership philosophy and practice it in my coaching too!
#mnlead
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:26 PM EDT
This shows humility was an important part of your program. This is a key disposition of successful leaders.
#mnlead
https://t.co/LkfGAgJCn7
SupAnger
Apr 3 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A3) I was fortunate to learn that we can't possibly be experts on everything and that people don't want experts anyway
#mnlead
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A3 I learned quite a bit about portfolios, analog transitioned into digital. Still a huge proponent of learning portfolios!
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:27 PM EDT
Q3. We're talking STUDENT AGENCY & ENGAGEMENT: What did your preservice
#edadmin
prep program do well?
#mnlead
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:27 PM EDT
A3 Hate to say it...it wasn't very student focused w/the exception of a few Prof's sharing S-centered ideas. Not part of coll curr.
#mnlead
JEngebretson75
Apr 3 @ 8:27 PM EDT
@CRLeatherbarrow
Yes! This is definitely a necessity!
#mnlead
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:27 PM EDT
A3) I would also say my Masters program showed me good strategies for applied learning.
#mnlead
iPrincipalJJ
Apr 3 @ 8:27 PM EDT
@mcleod
let's face it if you weren't a strong teacher it's hard to be a strong admin. Simply because the lack of resources
#mnlead
MoralesPattie
Apr 3 @ 8:27 PM EDT
@CRLeatherbarrow
been talking to professors and not one has any idea what a PLN is. I would say even in undergrad it's important
#mnlead
Neepernu
Apr 3 @ 8:27 PM EDT
@mcleod
@bretdom
Yes. If anything, they should hire a "manager" to handle building issues and let the P be the inst. leader.
#mnlead
jenlegatt
Apr 3 @ 8:28 PM EDT
Are you an
#edadmin
leading innovative change in your district? Join ITEM on April 30th. Reimagine Learning:
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#mnlead
SPPS_Richardson
Apr 3 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A3: Examining culture & race allows us to key on how students are allowed to thrive-curriculum, policy, systems, structures.
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:28 PM EDT
Here's a Q for you all-I realize many of you were Ting while in your programs, but how often did you get to shadow admins?
#mnlead
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:28 PM EDT
@robert_schuetz
Oh my... ePortfolios ARE the KING of assessments (IMHO)
#mnlead
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:28 PM EDT
@twhitford
Does the isolation permit freedom, or does it push compliance? Interested in rural dynamic on this.
#mnlead
wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:28 PM EDT
@mahillmann
Those are two great areas to focus on as we focus on developing as leaders!!
#mnlead
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A3 When we think of how easy it is to pose a Q on
#twitter
to ask for help, resources come flooding in.
#mnlead
#pln
https://t.co/dSvsZ0q5Is
CRLeatherbarrow
Apr 3 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A2 If I were to design an ed leadership program right now, I would include a focus on growing a PLN to learn from and network with.
#mnlead
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:29 PM EDT
It think great
#edleadership
programs focus on leadership dispositions & teach you how to learn the changing technical skills.
#mnlead
jenlegatt
Apr 3 @ 8:29 PM EDT
@korytellers
@Clouducation_
That's one thing that I've noticed. Admin (and teacher leaders) are pulled away from schools often.
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:29 PM EDT
@robert_schuetz
@twhitford
Jumping in to say, I've seen it do both. I think it all depends on the rural community.
#mnlead
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:29 PM EDT
@Neepernu
@mcleod
That's where having a dean or AP helps, right?
#mnlead
danieldmccabe
Apr 3 @ 8:29 PM EDT
Teach Your Teachers Well
#mnlead
https://t.co/cNB8f12R4X
Clouducation_
Apr 3 @ 8:29 PM EDT
A3: Yes, now that you mention it, my program DID do a great job understanding how to truly leverage these!
#mnlead
https://t.co/xOsaiD0TnE
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A3 I learned quite a bit about portfolios, analog transitioned into digital. Still a huge proponent of learning portfolios!
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:29 PM EDT
@MoralesPattie
@CRLeatherbarrow
Early activity in every preservice educator program should be to create / nurture a role-alike PLN
#mnlead
sandeeteach
Apr 3 @ 8:29 PM EDT
@korytellers
I will be shadowing admin all next year :) That's the plan anyway!
#mnlead
(When I'm off-track which is few weeks every 9 wks
Jonharper70bd
Apr 3 @ 8:30 PM EDT
"And They Never Would"
https://t.co/0NG4w5gZ0y
#mnlead
#nbtchat
#titletalk
#wischat
#IAedchat
#txeduchat
#caedchat
https://t.co/wqspWBEvD6
Tom_Kilgore
Apr 3 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Power of Play w/
@jedikermit
at 8pm CT!
#mnlead
#bcedchat
#21stedchat
#caedchat
#edchat
https://t.co/HJ3pL8Nhxk
burgessdave
Apr 3 @ 5:53 PM EDT
The Power of Play in
#txeduchat
tonight at 8CST hosted by
#PlayLAP
author,
@jedikermit
#tlap
#XPLAP
#games4ed
https://t.co/SXHFAx0QL0
raypeyton
Apr 3 @ 8:30 PM EDT
@mcleod
#mnlead
Had to learn on my own, but huge assist from
@edjurist
@kids_inspire
@france_linda
#UKNextGen
D
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:30 PM EDT
@CRLeatherbarrow
Do you think most
#edadmin
programs do that?
#mnlead
I see such a disconnect in so many programs...
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:30 PM EDT
@korytellers
@robert_schuetz
@twhitford
There are some rural communities that are very progressive w/their thinking, some are not.
#mnlead
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Yes . . .it is about becoming a learner!!
#mnlead
https://t.co/aCjy9JFQK6
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:29 PM EDT
It think great
#edleadership
programs focus on leadership dispositions & teach you how to learn the changing technical skills.
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@korytellers
@robert_schuetz
@twhitford
Howard-Winneshiek in Iowa is a progressive rural district that comes to mind.
#mnlead
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:31 PM EDT
School leadership should focus on serving people first (Why.) Then... What do they need? How can we do it?
#mnlead
https://t.co/LuAYxQluCD
wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:28 PM EDT
@mahillmann
Those are two great areas to focus on as we focus on developing as leaders!!
#mnlead
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@mahillmann
Do you think
#edleadership
programs do a good job helping A's lead change? Did yours?
#mnlead
VeliaViola1
Apr 3 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@bretdom
Would totally agree Bret! Love my
#twitterPLN
support is so vast from different capacities.
#mnlead
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@korytellers
@twhitford
That's what I am seeing through
#PLN
interactions. Internet is flattening our learning world.
#mnlead
jenlegatt
Apr 3 @ 8:31 PM EDT
One big reason why I have never gone down the
#edadmin
path is that I like being close to students, not pulled into many meetings.
#mnlead
TiawanaG
Apr 3 @ 8:31 PM EDT
We have to be accountable for our own learning. supplement with PD, via conferences, workshops, PLN,
#Mnlead
https://t.co/LwrCWnidbv
wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:20 PM EDT
Spot on Matt! Did the same. I was working in an Asst. Principal role as I went thru the program.
#mnlead
https://t.co/K6H3fhRGNq
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2 I had a great experience. Programs cannot offer or predict everything leaders will need. I supplemented on my own as needed.
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@Neepernu
@bretdom
This is the SAMS model that many schools in Iowa have implemented...
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@sandeeteach
I would think the more one can do that, the better. Especially if it can be shadowing a few different people.
#mnlead
Neepernu
Apr 3 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@iPrincipalJJ
@mcleod
AND YET...... so many bad Ts I know have gone on to become bad Admins...
#mnlead
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:31 PM EDT
BOOM . . .there it is . . . its about the WHY and communicating the WHY
#mnlead
https://t.co/pUlNzSrAtI
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:31 PM EDT
School leadership should focus on serving people first (Why.) Then... What do they need? How can we do it?
#mnlead
https://t.co/LuAYxQluCD
wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:28 PM EDT
@mahillmann
Those are two great areas to focus on as we focus on developing as leaders!!
#mnlead
sandeeteach
Apr 3 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@jenhegna
@CRLeatherbarrow
Not my program..Pretty obvious which peers/prof. are connected eds
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Q4. Regarding STUDENT AGENCY & ENGAGEMENT, what do you wish your preservice
#edadmin
prep program had done that it didn't?
#mnlead
sthomaschefsky
Apr 3 @ 8:32 PM EDT
A3.2 as a part time T and part time Tech Coach I am able to spend a lot of time with admin probably more than I will in class
#mnlead
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@korytellers
I spent my spring break in a different district so I could get a full week of real hands-on experiences. Great too!
#mnlead
iPrincipalJJ
Apr 3 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@korytellers
the problem is u miss all the tough real decisions because of confidentiality. Wish we could have gone 2 a dif campus
#mnlead
MoralesPattie
Apr 3 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@mcleod
@CRLeatherbarrow
I encourage all of my Ss teachers to create a PLN (and help them get started/excited about it)!
#mnlead
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:32 PM EDT
I think it did. But it could be that many of us in the program were change agents by nature.
#mnlead
https://t.co/WssAq5oB4h
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@mahillmann
Do you think
#edleadership
programs do a good job helping A's lead change? Did yours?
#mnlead
CRLeatherbarrow
Apr 3 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@korytellers
I was so fortunate to spend a good deal of time (released) to work with the principal during an internship.
#mnlead
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@jenlegatt
I am wondering -- Does being an A always mean you are no longer with S's?
#mnlead
chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:32 PM EDT
That was my fear, but trust me I am with Ss every day and for much of it. Often at deep, deep levels.
#mnlead
https://t.co/ivDrkelnkp
jenlegatt
Apr 3 @ 8:31 PM EDT
One big reason why I have never gone down the
#edadmin
path is that I like being close to students, not pulled into many meetings.
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@bretdom
I think the more experiences in different environments, the better.
#mnlead
Neepernu
Apr 3 @ 8:33 PM EDT
@jenlegatt
@korytellers
@Clouducation_
No kidding. Why don't they schedule admin meetings from 3-4 PM rather than 10-11 AM?
#mnlead
mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:33 PM EDT
@korytellers
@robert_schuetz
@twhitford
I like to thing
@isd317
Deer River, is! It stems from our Super
@MDGrose
…
#mnlead
JennReichel
Apr 3 @ 8:33 PM EDT
My favorite leadership phrase... It's all about the compelling why! 😀
#mnlead
https://t.co/XoIBuvQACo
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:31 PM EDT
School leadership should focus on serving people first (Why.) Then... What do they need? How can we do it?
#mnlead
https://t.co/LuAYxQluCD
wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:28 PM EDT
@mahillmann
Those are two great areas to focus on as we focus on developing as leaders!!
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:33 PM EDT
@jenhegna
@CRLeatherbarrow
No, very few, if any
#edadmin
programs are doing this. Would require knowledge! ;)
#mnlead
sandeeteach
Apr 3 @ 8:33 PM EDT
@korytellers
I'll be in high/middle school, elem., district office before and after teaching too- really looking forward to it!
#mnlead
PrincipalFrench
Apr 3 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A4) How to engage students, listen to their voices, give them choices, and be innovative.
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:33 PM EDT
@iPrincipalJJ
As an educator you couldn't be included in those decisions? Doesn't confidentiality cover all of us?
#mnlead
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:33 PM EDT
@jenhegna
@jenlegatt
Not at all. One of our goals is to ensure S's see and learn w our building leaders. All hands on deck.
#mnlead
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:34 PM EDT
And…in addition to my program, I had access to brilliant change agents like
@mcleod
,
@ijukes
, and others.
#mnlead
https://t.co/WssAq5oB4h
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@mahillmann
Do you think
#edleadership
programs do a good job helping A's lead change? Did yours?
#mnlead
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:34 PM EDT
A4 - helped us change our pt of reference to that of the Ss. A lot in ed would change if we simply started from Ss pt of view
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:34 PM EDT
@mcarlstromDR
@robert_schuetz
@twhitford
@isd317
@MDGrose
How big is Deer River again?
#mnlead
sandeeteach
Apr 3 @ 8:34 PM EDT
@mahillmann
@mcleod
@ijukes
You're really lucky Matt!
#mnlead
amyarbogash
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:34 PM EDT
A4They really needed to have more on current, innovative methods for ed & how to support (PL, PBL, tech, portfolios, Ss voice, etc).
#mnlead
iPrincipalJJ
Apr 3 @ 8:34 PM EDT
@jenhegna
@jenlegatt
not at all. You have to be purposeful with your time. Take time and spend with kids it keeps u focused
#mnlead
chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:34 PM EDT
I agree Matt. Those there are often curious soles by nature looking for creative change and improvement.
#mnlead
https://t.co/YKqw8iK8ZM
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:32 PM EDT
I think it did. But it could be that many of us in the program were change agents by nature.
#mnlead
https://t.co/WssAq5oB4h
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@mahillmann
Do you think
#edleadership
programs do a good job helping A's lead change? Did yours?
#mnlead
danpbutler
Apr 3 @ 8:34 PM EDT
What legacy are you leaving? Daily actions define this slowly and surely...
https://t.co/5ObQ5uunnN
#IAedchat
#mnlead
#wischat
#ECET2
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Q4. Regarding STUDENT AGENCY & ENGAGEMENT, what do you wish your preservice
#edadmin
prep program had done that it didn't?
#mnlead
@mcleod
wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:34 PM EDT
It is a challenge Jen but u just have to be intentional about being with Ss. Schedule it & make it happen.
#mnlead
https://t.co/I0HS0O0Tjp
jenlegatt
Apr 3 @ 8:31 PM EDT
One big reason why I have never gone down the
#edadmin
path is that I like being close to students, not pulled into many meetings.
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:35 PM EDT
@sandeeteach
Those will be great experiences to have and so helpful for you for sure!
#mnlead
Neepernu
Apr 3 @ 8:35 PM EDT
@mcleod
Do schools have a SAM even if they are not in school improvement? Is it just becoming common practice?
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:35 PM EDT
@mcarlstromDR
@korytellers
@robert_schuetz
@twhitford
Good to hear my former student
@MDGrose
is doing right! ;)
#mnlead
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:35 PM EDT
A4 A few others have touched upon the concept of always learning. Hard to be an effective leader with irrelevance. Learning first.
#mnlead
CRLeatherbarrow
Apr 3 @ 8:35 PM EDT
@MoralesPattie
Agreed! There is a preservce Twitter chat group that I occasion. Awesome for them (and me.)
#mnlead
SupAnger
Apr 3 @ 8:35 PM EDT
A4) I wish the idea that adherence or obedience does not equate to engagement was embraced
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Q4. We're talking STUDENT AGENCY & ENGAGEMENT: What do you wish your preservice
#edadmin
prep program had done that it didn't?
#mnlead
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A4.1 - move us from compliance model of learning to one of true student engagement
#mnlead
SPPS_Richardson
Apr 3 @ 8:36 PM EDT
@SPPS_Richardson
A4, I meant.
#mnlead
mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:36 PM EDT
@chris_bussmann
But, unfortunately, many are not…I never saw my Principal in HS, & I’ve worked in HS’s where 3,4’s a yr we’d C them.
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:36 PM EDT
@Neepernu
Not common practice. Requires funding / vision that many don't have...
#mnlead
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A4 If I were designing a program today, I would focus on feedback strategies…it is key to developing engaging instruction.
#mnlead
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:36 PM EDT
@mcleod
@CRLeatherbarrow
Why is that? If you are prepping A for today you should understand what A's today are doing.
#mnlead
#commonsense
SPPS_Richardson
Apr 3 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A4 I meant
#mnlead
Neepernu
Apr 3 @ 8:36 PM EDT
@bergjaso
In the business world you "Value= Why+How+What - Cost" Schools/ Leaders/Ts should do the same. How do *WE* add value?
#mnlead
MoralesPattie
Apr 3 @ 8:36 PM EDT
@CRLeatherbarrow
is love the # for it to share!
#mnlead
froehlichm
Apr 3 @ 8:36 PM EDT
& as an admin you should model what you want to see w/ Ss. If you weren't a strong T, that would be hard.
#mnlead
https://t.co/cJ6CSNDfEK
iPrincipalJJ
Apr 3 @ 8:27 PM EDT
@mcleod
let's face it if you weren't a strong teacher it's hard to be a strong admin. Simply because the lack of resources
#mnlead
iPrincipalJJ
Apr 3 @ 8:36 PM EDT
@korytellers
not personnel. Conversations with Ss and Parents are just half of the conversations so you miss out on the other half
#mnlead
JennReichel
Apr 3 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A4. It would have been great to hear some difficult conversations with cohort members who were in it for the paycheck.
#mnlead
danpbutler
Apr 3 @ 8:36 PM EDT
What legacy are you leaving? Daily actions define this slowly and surely...
https://t.co/0faTVeAioL
#IAedchat
#mnlead
#wischat
#ECET2
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A4.1 I appreciate what
@mahillmann
mentioned about getting out there, staying engaged w/ Ss. Shadowing Ts & Ss would be helpful.
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:37 PM EDT
@mcarlstromDR
@chris_bussmann
Yeah, I agree. I think all admin have good intentions, but it can be very challenging.
#mnlead
chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A4: I hope they will really focus in on privilege. If you've never experienced the other side, it is something you are oblivious to.
#mnlead
mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:37 PM EDT
@korytellers
@robert_schuetz
@twhitford
@isd317
@MDGrose
K-12, we’re about 1000 now and growing.
#mnlead
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A4 Show all of us how we can increase capacity for S's and T's. The differentiation needs to be there for all future admins too.
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:37 PM EDT
@korytellers
@mcarlstromDR
@chris_bussmann
I wonder if that is a rural/suburb difference-in smaller district admins do more of the+
#mnlead
wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A4 I would design program that focused on authentic student voice & students owning their own learning.
#mnlead
chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Where is my "unlike" button on Twitter?!?!
#mnlead
https://t.co/NSR26e3VAc
mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:36 PM EDT
@chris_bussmann
But, unfortunately, many are not…I never saw my Principal in HS, & I’ve worked in HS’s where 3,4’s a yr we’d C them.
#mnlead
Clouducation_
Apr 3 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A4) Overall, I think there could have been a far more student-centered tone in the early courses. More service leadership focus.
#mnlead
ERobbPrincipal
Apr 3 @ 8:38 PM EDT
@bretdom
@mcleod
4
#mnlead
Along with the theory I learned I really needed some good old this is what you do when you start the job
mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:38 PM EDT
@mcleod
@korytellers
@robert_schuetz
@twhitford
@MDGrose
Uhm, yah, he does alright. ;-) He in Atl
@ASCD
with a bunch of Staff!
#mnlead
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Engagment - Will Ss volunteer to do the activity? Will Ss persist when it get hard? Will Ss ask ?s to deepen the conversation?
#mnlead
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A4.2 We can't forget about relationships. How do you gracefully transition from classroom to admin office, & still relate w/ Ts?
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:38 PM EDT
@korytellers
@mcarlstromDR
@chris_bussmann
+jobs that might be given to an actual person in a larger district. Maybe?
#mnlead
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Our programs took place when the prevailing attitude was that obedience=engagement. We know better now.
#mnlead
https://t.co/N6l4llA4kc
SupAnger
Apr 3 @ 8:35 PM EDT
A4) I wish the idea that adherence or obedience does not equate to engagement was embraced
#mnlead
iPrincipalJJ
Apr 3 @ 8:38 PM EDT
@froehlichm
@mcleod
plus u have to be able to recognize the greatness in others styles. Hard 2 accept other ways when u lack ur own
#mnlead
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Were you engaged in your program or did you have to be "compliant"? How much autonomy did you have?
#mnlead
https://t.co/YLQpXOw6cu
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A4.1 - move us from compliance model of learning to one of true student engagement
#mnlead
CRLeatherbarrow
Apr 3 @ 8:38 PM EDT
@jenhegna
Sadly no. Those who teach adjunct or those who work with student teaching advisors need to plant the idea.
#mnlead
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Engagement - Will students initiate the conversation? To me, these are great ways to measure engagement
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:38 PM EDT
@mcarlstromDR
@robert_schuetz
@twhitford
@isd317
@MDGrose
I knew it was small, wasn't think that small. Are you in just 1 building?
#mnlead
ScottEacott
Apr 3 @ 8:39 PM EDT
For those interested in
#edadmin
there is an interesting stream at
#mnlead
courtesy of
@mcleod
(and many other participants)
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:39 PM EDT
@ERobbPrincipal
@mcleod
So much of it was necessary. The hours I spent during internship helped w that. So much on-the-job learning.
#mnlead
chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:39 PM EDT
I'd say more a reflection of the size of the school. I've experienced 350 to 1050. There is a difference.
#mnlead
https://t.co/wztEpLJDrl
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:37 PM EDT
@korytellers
@mcarlstromDR
@chris_bussmann
I wonder if that is a rural/suburb difference-in smaller district admins do more of the+
#mnlead
sandeeteach
Apr 3 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Learning lots of whys not many how-to's
#mnlead
https://t.co/Dgxs5RhIGl
ERobbPrincipal
Apr 3 @ 8:38 PM EDT
@bretdom
@mcleod
4
#mnlead
Along with the theory I learned I really needed some good old this is what you do when you start the job
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:39 PM EDT
For the most part compliant - I was very compliant in the doctoral program and finally quit it :)
#mnlead
https://t.co/J0UNs782ws
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Were you engaged in your program or did you have to be "compliant"? How much autonomy did you have?
#mnlead
https://t.co/YLQpXOw6cu
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A4.1 - move us from compliance model of learning to one of true student engagement
#mnlead
mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:39 PM EDT
@korytellers
@robert_schuetz
@twhitford
@isd317
@MDGrose
No. We were in 3, now 2. K-5 Elem, 6-12 HS. Adding addition to Elem.
#mnlead
amyarbogash
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:39 PM EDT
@robert_schuetz
This is so important! Easy to get 'stuck' in your office and meetings as an admin. Need to be in classrooms a lot.
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:40 PM EDT
@iPrincipalJJ
@froehlichm
YES! Too many admins are too ego-driven to facilitate non-tokenistic distributed leadership structures!
#mnlead
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:40 PM EDT
You cannot be engaged w/Ts & Ss at your desk. Be visible & lots gets done by default.
#trusttheprocess
#mnlead
https://t.co/3R5NuOiqt6
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A4.1 I appreciate what
@mahillmann
mentioned about getting out there, staying engaged w/ Ss. Shadowing Ts & Ss would be helpful.
#mnlead
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:40 PM EDT
@bergjaso
I am waiting for a doctoral program that breaks the mold. Until then..... I will just learn on my own! :)
#mnlead
mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:40 PM EDT
@PrincipalFrench
Isn’t this something you can model by how Admin’s interact with Staff, Students and Community?
#mnlead
wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:40 PM EDT
BOOM!!!
#mnlead
https://t.co/5GIhrLjGIy
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:40 PM EDT
You cannot be engaged w/Ts & Ss at your desk. Be visible & lots gets done by default.
#trusttheprocess
#mnlead
https://t.co/3R5NuOiqt6
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A4.1 I appreciate what
@mahillmann
mentioned about getting out there, staying engaged w/ Ss. Shadowing Ts & Ss would be helpful.
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:41 PM EDT
Q5. Regarding INNOVATION & CHANGE, what did your preservice
#edadmin
prep program do well?
#mnlead
iPrincipalJJ
Apr 3 @ 8:41 PM EDT
@Clouducation_
no sir I'm from Tx just crashing the Minnesota party to learn a little something
#mnlead
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:41 PM EDT
How often are the Admin adjuncts actually good adjunct profs? What is requirement to teach other A's?
#mnlead
angpotts
Apr 3 @ 8:41 PM EDT
@jenhegna
Love it, Jen! You should create that program. I’d sign up!
#mnlead
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:41 PM EDT
I am with you!! I was so disappointed.
#mnlead
https://t.co/XgykMFFXY7
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:40 PM EDT
@bergjaso
I am waiting for a doctoral program that breaks the mold. Until then..... I will just learn on my own! :)
#mnlead
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:41 PM EDT
@jenhegna
Great question. I have always been good a playing the school game. I've learned the hard way, compliance isn't growth.
#mnlead
wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:41 PM EDT
I have found that I MUST put it on my calendar as a non-negotiable. This gets me out of the office!
#mnlead
https://t.co/Z2FApTOhpm
amyarbogash
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:39 PM EDT
@robert_schuetz
This is so important! Easy to get 'stuck' in your office and meetings as an admin. Need to be in classrooms a lot.
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:41 PM EDT
@korytellers
@mcarlstromDR
@chris_bussmann
One of the best elementaries I've ever seen was nearly 1,000 STs
#culturenotsize
#mnlead
SupAnger
Apr 3 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A4.1 Having taught in ldrshp programs, there is pressure from college to keep it traditional, I tried not to:)
@bretdom
#mnlead
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:42 PM EDT
I kept thinking to myself that if our Ss are going through this no wonder they are disengaged in school
#mnlead
https://t.co/fMi7tZsCZS
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:41 PM EDT
@bergjaso
It was that bad? I'm debating getting going on it but I don't want to "write papers" for each class as requisite of learning.
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:42 PM EDT
@angpotts
LOL! Hard to create a doctoral program with no DR.... But some college somewhere will value Plearning!
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:42 PM EDT
@iPrincipalJJ
@Clouducation_
Glad to have you with us!
#mnlead
PrincipalFrench
Apr 3 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A5) Sadly, because my admin programs were 30 years ago, innovation & change were not topics of those days.
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:42 PM EDT
@mcleod
@mcarlstromDR
@chris_bussmann
I'm not saying that-I'm just saying in rural districts admins have more hats they have to+
#mnlead
Clouducation_
Apr 3 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A5) Switching to digital portfolio was a great catalyst for building more innov into the prgm. Many profs embraced it and ran w/it
#mnlead
JennReichel
Apr 3 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A5. One of my classes pushed us hard to reflect. I've definitely carried that on... And for me that drives innovation and change.
#mnlead
iPrincipalJJ
Apr 3 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A4: I actual had a great mentor that taught a lot about building relationships with teachers Dr. Lee Stewart RIP
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:43 PM EDT
@SupAnger
@bretdom
Excellent point. Crab bucket cultures are alive and well in higher ed too... :(
#mnlead
chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A5: I'd like to say nothing but if I had to pick I would say to have the mindset to not settle for the current.
#mnlead
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Good grief . . .
#mnlead
https://t.co/KWbv2cLyUD
chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Where is my "unlike" button on Twitter?!?!
#mnlead
https://t.co/NSR26e3VAc
mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:36 PM EDT
@chris_bussmann
But, unfortunately, many are not…I never saw my Principal in HS, & I’ve worked in HS’s where 3,4’s a yr we’d C them.
#mnlead
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Q5. Regarding INNOVATION & CHANGE, what did your preservice
#edadmin
prep program do well?
#mnlead
@mcle
JEngebretson75
Apr 3 @ 8:43 PM EDT
@SupAnger
My guess is that your course evaluations are more positive because of your efforts not to be traditional
#mnlead
angpotts
Apr 3 @ 8:43 PM EDT
@jenhegna
A Plearning badge!
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:43 PM EDT
@korytellers
@mcleod
@mcarlstromDR
@chris_bussmann
+wear. Many times Principals are also the curric. directors, the finance, etc.
#mnlead
Neepernu
Apr 3 @ 8:43 PM EDT
@korytellers
@mcleod
@mcarlstromDR
This. I feel like my Principal knows more about HVAC than anyone should ever have to.
#mnlead
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:43 PM EDT
@jenhegna
Ooh, now you're touching upon something interesting. Where is the best place for our best teachers?
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:43 PM EDT
@korytellers
@mcarlstromDR
@chris_bussmann
Gotcha. Yes, absolutely!
#mnlead
mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@korytellers
@chris_bussmann
I think smaller is more agile, flexible… But, again, it starts at the top… ;-)
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@korytellers
@mcleod
@mcarlstromDR
@chris_bussmann
Because they have to do so many jobs, they can't do the admin job well.
#mnlead
SPPS_Richardson
Apr 3 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A5: Learning more about the values & ideals that drive PLCs has been powerful- PLCs innovate & change schools if well supported.
#mnlead
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@SupAnger
I thought about mentioning you Gary. I still use the paper cut out notes from your class. That's connecting w S's and T's.
#mnlead
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A5 If I were designing a new program, I would embed the ‘living in beta’ concept & focus on how to help others excel within it!
#mnlead
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@rutherfordcasey
Maybe
@mcleod
will design something!
#mnlead
iPrincipalJJ
Apr 3 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@Clouducation_
probably was a great guy it's in the name
#mnlead
sthomaschefsky
Apr 3 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A5 PDP and how to reflect on our strengths and address head on our weakness understanding u need others and always reflect & develop
#mnlead
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A5 - we did not talk about any change in my program - innovative or any other kind
#mnlead
chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:45 PM EDT
I am all about culture...come visit, but the MN school funding mechanism creates inequity by zip code.
#mnlead
https://t.co/he8Dkl7hjr
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:41 PM EDT
@korytellers
@mcarlstromDR
@chris_bussmann
One of the best elementaries I've ever seen was nearly 1,000 STs
#culturenotsize
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:45 PM EDT
@bretdom
@SupAnger
Ooo, to be a fly on the wall of that classroom! :)
#mnlead
wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A5 Not sure that we really thought about innovation at that time but they did stretch our thinking & challenge status quo.
#mnlead
MarkJWestpfahl
Apr 3 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Compliance isn't growth, but many teachers feel the heat if they try 2 break the mold - question status quo.
#mnlead
https://t.co/6CQNYhs883
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:41 PM EDT
@jenhegna
Great question. I have always been good a playing the school game. I've learned the hard way, compliance isn't growth.
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Q5. We're talking INNOVATION & CHANGE: What did your preservice
#edadmin
prep program do well?
#mnlead
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:45 PM EDT
@Neepernu
@korytellers
@mcleod
@mcarlstromDR
Funny, scary, & true!
#mnlead
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Mine were good, but very traditional - not their fault
#mnlead
https://t.co/CVmoSFWzTx
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:41 PM EDT
How often are the Admin adjuncts actually good adjunct profs? What is requirement to teach other A's?
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:45 PM EDT
@robert_schuetz
@jenhegna
What's the requirement? You submit your interest and have connections to faculty... So, often, none.
#mnlead
filipetti
Apr 3 @ 8:46 PM EDT
#mnlead
Here is a project we just completed. Ss, Ts and admin. Pls check it out.
https://t.co/yCEF9Aa680
TBCDSB_EQ
Mar 31 @ 4:50 PM EDT
We made our Ojibwe ᐊᓂᔑᓋᐯᒧᐎᓐ Keyboard for Mac! Download here
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#NationalAboriginalLanguagesDay
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SupAnger
Apr 3 @ 8:46 PM EDT
@bretdom
I never leave work without writing notes every day recognizing staff still to this day
#mnlead
amyarbogash
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A5 Not much. We did talk about PLC's a little bit in regards to leading change. But nothing on innovation.
#mnlead
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Wisdom! What’s on the calendar usually happens.
#mnlead
https://t.co/hR4laSS05F
wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:41 PM EDT
I have found that I MUST put it on my calendar as a non-negotiable. This gets me out of the office!
#mnlead
https://t.co/Z2FApTOhpm
amyarbogash
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:39 PM EDT
@robert_schuetz
This is so important! Easy to get 'stuck' in your office and meetings as an admin. Need to be in classrooms a lot.
#mnlead
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A5
#mnlead
ers, I'm feeling like our traditional higher ed admin programs are in need of some updating in S voice, differentiation, etc.
CRLeatherbarrow
Apr 3 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Should we disrupt leadership edn? 21st Cent Skills used/modeled/challenged at all learning levels.
#mnlead
https://t.co/iorA4Uvtjn
SupAnger
Apr 3 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A4.1 Having taught in ldrshp programs, there is pressure from college to keep it traditional, I tried not to:)
@bretdom
#mnlead
MoralesPattie
Apr 3 @ 8:46 PM EDT
If used well PDP can be awesome. Hard to find those who will give real feedback (in my experience)
#mnlead
https://t.co/Uc2jpyFhqq
sthomaschefsky
Apr 3 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A5 PDP and how to reflect on our strengths and address head on our weakness understanding u need others and always reflect & develop
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:46 PM EDT
@SupAnger
@bretdom
I have little birdies that let me know I can confirm this. And they LOVE it! :)
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:46 PM EDT
@jenhegna
@rutherfordcasey
I'm heading to CU-Denver as Assoc Prof of Ed Leadership. Start in August. Stay in touch!
#mnlead
sandeeteach
Apr 3 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Most appreciated gesture by Ts from admin :)
#mnlead
https://t.co/6oCPDAE1MJ
SupAnger
Apr 3 @ 8:46 PM EDT
@bretdom
I never leave work without writing notes every day recognizing staff still to this day
#mnlead
amyarbogash
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:47 PM EDT
@wadestanford
I schedule it as well. Much more likely to happen! :)
#mnlead
MarkJWestpfahl
Apr 3 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Culture needs to be created in each classroom too, & it's OK to be different.
#mnlead
@chris_bussmann
@mcleod
@korytellers
@mcarlstromDR
wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Mine either Jason but not sure it was their fault. Compliance was more of the focus during that time.
#mnlead
https://t.co/veB15pELTk
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A5 - we did not talk about any change in my program - innovative or any other kind
#mnlead
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:47 PM EDT
@mcleod
@robert_schuetz
That needs to change. Just like our Pre-T's getting sucky mentors. We need our best ppl to guide new A's!
#mnlead
iPrincipalJJ
Apr 3 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A5: I remember asking y do admin change from being passionate and change agents to status quo. Now I fight not 2 do the same
#mnlead
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:47 PM EDT
@mcleod
@jenhegna
Yep, and this weakens the organization & devalues what's best for kids.
#mnlead
CRLeatherbarrow
Apr 3 @ 8:47 PM EDT
I love this idea.
#mnlead
https://t.co/iSJ7lt5YHO
SupAnger
Apr 3 @ 8:46 PM EDT
@bretdom
I never leave work without writing notes every day recognizing staff still to this day
#mnlead
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:47 PM EDT
@jenhegna
@mcleod
@robert_schuetz
And making sure we have mentors...period. That doesn't always happen either.
#mnlead
wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@amyarbogash
It is the only way it happens for me. The "day" takes over if I don't!
#mnlead
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@MarkJWestpfahl
Very sad, and very true.
#mnlead
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:48 PM EDT
And helping others with it. It can be understandably uncomfortable. Leaders need to support the transition.
#mnlead
https://t.co/VRgqSh52Ad
Clouducation_
Apr 3 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Ditto, and amen. Leaders today need to be leading the bleeding edge.
https://t.co/JqCafkOTZ9
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A5 If I were designing a new program, I would embed the ‘living in beta’ concept & focus on how to help others excel within it!
#mnlead
amyarbogash
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@SupAnger
@bretdom
That's awesome, Gary!
#mnlead
SartellScherer
Apr 3 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@robert_schuetz
@jenhegna
PREACH!
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:48 PM EDT
Then my moderator job here is done... ;)
#mnlead
https://t.co/3eeM3RSR8d
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A5
#mnlead
ers, I'm feeling like our traditional higher ed admin programs are in need of some updating in S voice, differentiation, etc.
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@bergjaso
question is, where did you get your training as you have certainly made significant ground in that dept! Right district?
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@SartellScherer
Brad, I love how you just pop up out of nowhere! :)
@robert_schuetz
@jenhegna
#mnlead
filipetti
Apr 3 @ 8:48 PM EDT
#mnlead
. Have to run. Thanks! Looking forward to visiting soon for
@MYASmn
🏀 tournaments in April May and June.
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:49 PM EDT
@mcleod
@jenhegna
@rutherfordcasey
That's great news Scott!
#mnlead
MarkJWestpfahl
Apr 3 @ 8:49 PM EDT
Meaningful displays of appreciation mean so much to Ts. I wish more in leadership roles would acknowledge.
#mnlead
https://t.co/Ryg6VIXnz9
SupAnger
Apr 3 @ 8:46 PM EDT
@bretdom
I never leave work without writing notes every day recognizing staff still to this day
#mnlead
amyarbogash
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:49 PM EDT
Yes, yes they are...
#mnlead
https://t.co/DBE8EwgltN
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A5
#mnlead
ers, I'm feeling like our traditional higher ed admin programs are in need of some updating in S voice, differentiation, etc.
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:49 PM EDT
@CRLeatherbarrow
@SupAnger
Yes, we absolutely should. Put pressure on
#edadmin
programs to step it up!
#mnlead
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:49 PM EDT
@bretdom
@mcleod
@robert_schuetz
I am thinking we need more highered - K12 connections. More programs within our schools...
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Q6. Regarding INNOVATION & CHANGE, what do you wish your preservice
#edadmin
prep program had done that it didn't?
#mnlead
txeduchat
Apr 3 @ 8:50 PM EDT
#txeduchat
starts in 10 minutes. Join us:
#mnlead
#21stedchat
#bcedchat
#caedchat
#oklaed
#iaedchat
https://t.co/BOYFfT1XWm
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:50 PM EDT
@iPrincipalJJ
Leaders lead. Too many managers not leading people / organizations forward... :(
#mnlead
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:50 PM EDT
@bergjaso
When you selected your program - what made you decide on that vs. other?
#mnlead
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:50 PM EDT
@mcleod
So from that, how do we push the change. From what I see, business is booming. No need to change.
#mnlead
mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:50 PM EDT
@MarkJWestpfahl
If Admins want growth, they need to allow T’s 2 fail tryg new things. Presure 2 Grow cant also B Presure not 2 fail.
#mnlead
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:50 PM EDT
It is key for new As to do the ‘small things right’ to start. Builds trust in your leadership when the 'trains run on time.’
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:50 PM EDT
@jenhegna
@bretdom
@mcleod
@robert_schuetz
UNI had a great school connected right to the university. Closed down few years ago.
#mnlead
SartellScherer
Apr 3 @ 8:51 PM EDT
@korytellers
@robert_schuetz
@jenhegna
#mnlead
is a party that I can only handle in small portion bc of awesomeness!
https://t.co/BDmx8sDDbq
JEngebretson75
Apr 3 @ 8:51 PM EDT
@jenhegna
I think one barrier is finding current admin who will open their doors and invite the necessary conversations
#mnlead
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:51 PM EDT
@jenhegna
@bretdom
@mcleod
Yes, very beneficial! Mixture of theoretical with practical. Meaningful research collaboration
#mnlead
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:51 PM EDT
No formal training, yes, right district at the right time -
@Soup192
set the direction & lets us go
#trust
#mnlead
https://t.co/l0Ls5tMXOG
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@bergjaso
question is, where did you get your training as you have certainly made significant ground in that dept! Right district?
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:51 PM EDT
I wonder how many admins actually believe this, though,
@Clouducation_
@mahillmann
#mnlead
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:52 PM EDT
They all looked the same. I ultimately chose one because another person was started as well
#mnlead
https://t.co/eExiECkIUh
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:50 PM EDT
@bergjaso
When you selected your program - what made you decide on that vs. other?
#mnlead
EdCampTC
Apr 3 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Hey
#mnlead
Hope you can join us for
#edcamptc
on April 30th in Burnsville.It's free & catered to you! sign up here:
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bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Q6. Regarding INNOVATION & CHANGE, what do you wish your preservice
#edadmin
prep program had done that it didn't?
#mnlead
@mcleo
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:52 PM EDT
@mcleod
@Clouducation_
@mahillmann
I bet many believe it, but just like Ts, they have people above them calling the shots.
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Q6. We're talking INNOVATION & CHANGE: What do you wish your preservice
#edadmin
prep program had done that it didn't?
#mnlead
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:52 PM EDT
It can be a tough road…build strong relationships so other trust you enough to follow into uncharted areas.
#mnlead
https://t.co/EkSXoQcPGy
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:51 PM EDT
I wonder how many admins actually believe this, though,
@Clouducation_
@mahillmann
#mnlead
amyarbogash
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A6 There needs to be a lot more on innovation, starting w/
@gcouros
book and learning about the innovator's mindset.
#mnlead
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A6 Experience / model
#PBL
. Work to solve real issues, make real contributions to school & community.
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:53 PM EDT
@korytellers
@Clouducation_
@mahillmann
LEADERS LEAD
#mnlead
SupAnger
Apr 3 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A5) Having moved from a big district to a small district I'm energized by a faster speed of change, that's what our programs need
#mnlead
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:53 PM EDT
@JEngebretson75
I could see that as a challenge, Do you think a stipend or Free courses for coach would be answer?
#mnlead
wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A6 Introduce it & Embrace it???
#mnlead
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Can't wait to see you there Kory! It's gonna be fun!
#mnlead
#edcamptc
https://t.co/CzhbQZiMhE
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:53 PM EDT
I'm going to be there! I hope many of you can join me there! It will be SO much fun!
#EdCampTC
https://t.co/8LlUwpZTFK
JEngebretson75
Apr 3 @ 8:54 PM EDT
@bergjaso
@jenhegna
Makeup of cohort can answer a lot of the issues addressed here by the sharing of great work from many districts
#mnlead
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A6 In designing a new program, emphasize known hurdles like the ‘implementation dip.’ Give confidence for when the waters are rough.
#mnlead
JennReichel
Apr 3 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A6. It would have been helpful to learn from practitioners how they engaged staff and community.
#mnlead
chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:54 PM EDT
I think there needs to be a recommitment to longevity by admin. Unfortunately turnover is too prevalent.
#mnlead
https://t.co/aTQVVxLKNi
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:52 PM EDT
It can be a tough road…build strong relationships so other trust you enough to follow into uncharted areas.
#mnlead
https://t.co/EkSXoQcPGy
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:51 PM EDT
I wonder how many admins actually believe this, though,
@Clouducation_
@mahillmann
#mnlead
mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:54 PM EDT
@jenhegna
@mcleod
@robert_schuetz
Mentorship shldn’t go 2 the 1st person who says Yes or is most exp. Have 2 have Pedgy & Ppl skils.
#mnlead
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A6.1 Make the tuition FREE, reciprocal value comes from contributing to the betterment of schools & communities.
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:54 PM EDT
@mcleod
@Clouducation_
@mahillmann
They do, but sometimes outside forces, rules or laws can make the leading challenging.
#mnlead
Neepernu
Apr 3 @ 8:55 PM EDT
@mcleod
@mahillmann
Many As feel like they have arrived after getting the job. Stop thinking about the problems they wanted to solve
#mnlead
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:55 PM EDT
@Clouducation_
@mcleod
@mahillmann
Maybe a highered Program that embraces change... and models it would help with value?
#mnlead
Neepernu
Apr 3 @ 8:55 PM EDT
@chris_bussmann
I read somewhere that an average Admin only lasts 5 years!
#mnlead
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:55 PM EDT
A6 What innovation can look like. I didn't really "see" it until I expanded my schooling to include a
#pln
. I learned so much.
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Q7. Call to Action - What could you do to help your local
#edadmin
prep programs be better connected to the needs of practice?
#mnlead
ERobbPrincipal
Apr 3 @ 8:56 PM EDT
@mcleod
A6
#mnlead
- More focus on the future - what the job and schools will be in the near future- Tech- Social Media- Instruction-ect
chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A6: Instead of react to a scenario, how about partner with the private sector on something that could be.
#mnlead
#learntoflyintheair
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:56 PM EDT
@JEngebretson75
I would guess that. I also think Pre-A's just go with what they know and easiest path?
#mnlead
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Q7. Call to Action - What could you do to help your local
#edadmin
prep programs be better connected to the needs of practice?
#mnlead
@mcle
mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:56 PM EDT
@jenhegna
@mcleod
@robert_schuetz
I created the 1st Mentorship program for
@isd317
, now
@SueAkre
runs it Awesome Gd 4 T’s, Gd 4 Ss
#mnlead
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:56 PM EDT
@SupAnger
I'm assuming there is some failure w/ rapid change, but this can also be good for learning, right?!?
#mnlead
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:57 PM EDT
The ‘tyranny of the urgent’ is a real that can be disruptive. Know your ‘Why’ & you’ll be fine.
#mnlead
https://t.co/SyEVfN3BBv
Neepernu
Apr 3 @ 8:55 PM EDT
@mcleod
@mahillmann
Many As feel like they have arrived after getting the job. Stop thinking about the problems they wanted to solve
#mnlead
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:57 PM EDT
@Neepernu
@chris_bussmann
What?!?!?! I know a whole lot that have lasted way longer than that(and should have been gone much sooner)
#mnlead
iPrincipalJJ
Apr 3 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A6: taught the process instead of current fad. How can I learn throughout my career instead of what's effective now
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Clouducation_
Apr 3 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A6] Wish my program had highlighted more of the rock-star school ldrs that those of us w/online PLN learn from. Oblivious
#mnlead
kevin_corbett
Apr 3 @ 8:57 PM EDT
The Power of Play on
#txeduchat
w/ host
@jedikermit
at 8pm Central
#mnlead
#21stedchat
#PlayLAP
https://t.co/ByNt7E9hRE
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A7 Just this year I have felt the itch to go back and teach, model and share what we have in our global community. Be the change!
#mnlead
sandeeteach
Apr 3 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A6 I share w
#edadmin
prep peers and professors what I'm learning from PLN- share resources! (may not understand but I keep sharing)
#mnlead
TPreisler
Apr 3 @ 8:57 PM EDT
@JennReichel
I agree on community aspect. "It was good enough"'can be barrier, but is our responsibility 2 educate 4 current needs.
#mnlead
PrincipalFrench
Apr 3 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A7) Volunteer to mentor or host those needing to do their internship. I'm happy to have shared with 5 interns over the past years.
#mnlead
mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:57 PM EDT
@mcleod
@iPrincipalJJ
What a Great Phrase… MGMT Is Not Leadership.
#mnlead
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:57 PM EDT
This is true. No program can adequately prepare you to ‘sit in the chair.’ It comes from experience.
#mnlead
https://t.co/LrzG7UijIU
kwhobbes
Apr 3 @ 8:55 PM EDT
@Clouducation_
@mcleod
@mahillmann
you can do it but it takes a heavy toll. One doesn't fully realize until you are that leader.
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:57 PM EDT
An excellent point,
@kwhobbes
. Leadership is hard. Why many don't take it on...
@Clouducation_
@mahillmann
#mnlead
chris_bussmann
Apr 3 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Work hard to push those folk out. Work equally hard to keep quality people around!
#mnlead
https://t.co/CW0P2Zjimz
korytellers
Apr 3 @ 8:57 PM EDT
@Neepernu
@chris_bussmann
What?!?!?! I know a whole lot that have lasted way longer than that(and should have been gone much sooner)
#mnlead
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:58 PM EDT
CTA Might have a convo with a few A adjuncts I know....
#mnlead
SupAnger
Apr 3 @ 8:58 PM EDT
CTA) Be the change that the programs model their delivery upon, make it happen then help others do the same
#mnlead
mcleod
Apr 3 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@robert_schuetz
@SupAnger
We have to get in habit of rapid iteration, beta testing.
#failforward
#mnlead
bergjaso
Apr 3 @ 8:58 PM EDT
CTA - I take any chance I get to talk to program directors - admin and teacher - reinforce the mindset/skills needed by both
#mnlead
robert_schuetz
Apr 3 @ 8:59 PM EDT
@bretdom
Right there with you!!! Bring the learning spirit to those needing the spark we feel as adult learners.
#mnlead
VeliaViola1
Apr 3 @ 8:59 PM EDT
@robert_schuetz
@SupAnger
As long as there is
#purpose
#studencentered
#mnlead
ERobbPrincipal
Apr 3 @ 8:59 PM EDT
@mcleod
A7
#mnlead
Great internship programs with localities giving teachers time to participate instead scrambling for time
bretdom
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Wow! What a night tonight. Thanks to
@mcleod
for leading us. The dialogue was rich. Now, how do we all help evolve the systems?
#mnlead
jenhegna
Apr 3 @ 8:59 PM EDT
@bergjaso
I really hope you become a mentor someday.... For a Pre-A.
#mnlead
mcarlstromDR
Apr 3 @ 8:59 PM EDT
@mcleod
@kwhobbes
@Clouducation_
@mahillmann
To paraphrase “A league of Their Own” “The Hard is What Makes it Great!”
#mnlead
jenlegatt
Apr 3 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Something for every educator at
#mnitem
April 30 Spring Conference. Register today:
https://t.co/Uixu0caC1P
#mnlead
https://t.co/c8IKWLi7aq
wadestanford
Apr 3 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Truth! I didn't even know what I didn't know until I got in the chair!!
#mnlead
https://t.co/wVJ3A0ov4Q
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:57 PM EDT
This is true. No program can adequately prepare you to ‘sit in the chair.’ It comes from experience.
#mnlead
https://t.co/LrzG7UijIU
kwhobbes
Apr 3 @ 8:55 PM EDT
@Clouducation_
@mcleod
@mahillmann
you can do it but it takes a heavy toll. One doesn't fully realize until you are that leader.
JEngebretson75
Apr 3 @ 8:59 PM EDT
CTA I plan to speak with my admin program advisor about how to connect more innovative admin to the program
#mnlead
iPrincipalJJ
Apr 3 @ 8:59 PM EDT
A7: be transparent so those who are watching can get a good idea of what the job requires. We have to show the good parts of our job
#mnlead
angpotts
Apr 3 @ 8:59 PM EDT
@mcleod
@robert_schuetz
@SupAnger
Fail Fast - Google X philosophy.
#mnlead
mahillmann
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 8:59 PM EDT
CTA I will model my own words in the pre-service admin courses I teach at Concordia-St. Paul.
#mnlead