#INZpirED Archive
This is a weekly chat often based around one or two questions to spark discussion & debate around educational issues.
Friday June 10, 2016
10:30 PM EDT
rsehji
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Jun 10 @ 10:30 PM EDT
Ritu from AKLD. Welcome 2
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please introduce yourself if here :) Q.1 A.1 format.Use hashtag
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Topic:Helicopter Parents
rsehji
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:30 PM EDT
Ritu from AKLD. Welcome 2
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please introduce yourself if here :) Q.1 A.1 format.Use hashtag
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Topic:Helicopter Parents
KSThakral
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:30 PM EDT
Welcome to
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- Sunny from Kathmandu, Nepal joining in.
KSThakral
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:31 PM EDT
@rsehji
Morning Ritu
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rsehji
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:32 PM EDT
Q.1 coming up soon....
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lesliefarooq
Jun 10 @ 10:33 PM EDT
Hey
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, I'm Leslie in Mty, MX. I'm trying to decide if I am a helicopter parent.
https://t.co/I6m9p7qUkh
DJCE57
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:33 PM EDT
Whew, almost missed my flight, made it just in time! Good morning
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PLN,
@rsehji
and
@KSThakral
. Diana checking in from Manila.
rsehji
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:33 PM EDT
Q.1. What other terms have you heard as being used for overindulged parents?
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https://t.co/tClW6VztBz
KSThakral
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:34 PM EDT
@lesliefarooq
Morning Leslie and what a brill gif
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JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 10:34 PM EDT
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Jena Ball Not Perfect Hat Club creator tweeting from North Carolina.
JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 10:34 PM EDT
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Has anyone pinged
@DeanJulie
? She=the expert on this topic. Wrote NY Times bestseller" How to Raise an Adult" about helicopter Ps
rsehji
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:34 PM EDT
@lesliefarooq
lovely dp, Leslie :) Lovely to have you board the
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adamsomes
Jun 10 @ 10:34 PM EDT
A1 Many names that shouldn't be repeated out loud.
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DJCE57
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Jun 10 @ 10:35 PM EDT
@JenaiaMorane
hi ya, Jena! Welcome! Glad to have you here today on
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rsehji
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:35 PM EDT
@DJCE57
@KSThakral
Good morning, glad you made it
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JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 10:35 PM EDT
@DJCE57
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Waves
KSThakral
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:35 PM EDT
@DJCE57
@rsehji
Morning :) The spitfire is here
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https://t.co/3adwLytB5H
lesliefarooq
Jun 10 @ 10:35 PM EDT
A1: Smothering? I'm not sure. Helicopter parent is so apt.
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DJCE57
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Jun 10 @ 10:36 PM EDT
@adamsomes
hahaha😅😂 I agree!!!
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KSThakral
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:36 PM EDT
@JenaiaMorane
Morning Jena. Welcome
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rsehji
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:36 PM EDT
@JenaiaMorane
@DeanJulie
oh no, hope your nudge works
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lesliefarooq
Jun 10 @ 10:36 PM EDT
@KSThakral
Evening, Sunny! Thanks, it was one of the first hits on the Twitter GIF search for helicopter!
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KSThakral
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:36 PM EDT
@adamsomes
Hi Adam. Yup - silence is definitely golden on this one
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lesliefarooq
Jun 10 @ 10:36 PM EDT
@rsehji
Thanks, Ritu! Happy to be here!
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rsehji
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:37 PM EDT
@KSThakral
@DJCE57
good one, Sunny! Now where are the others?
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JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 10:37 PM EDT
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A1: I'd call them byproducts of current edu system. They don't know any better. Think testing, grades & perfection=road 2 success.
KSThakral
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Jun 10 @ 10:37 PM EDT
@lesliefarooq
Haven’t started using it - Sounds like a whole lot of fun
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MrsMsClassroom
Jun 10 @ 10:37 PM EDT
A2:
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coddling, overprotective, helicopter, needy, denial, spoiling
adamsomes
Jun 10 @ 10:37 PM EDT
.
@KSThakral
..,not to mention restraint
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rsehji
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:38 PM EDT
@JenaiaMorane
What other terms have you heard being used for helicopter parents? I found some new ones I never knew
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lesliefarooq
Jun 10 @ 10:38 PM EDT
@KSThakral
It amuses me and sometimes others. It's probably medium on the fun scale.
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DJCE57
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:38 PM EDT
@lesliefarooq
Agree...A1 Helicopter P, over protective, breathing down neck type, over bearing...
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KSThakral
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:39 PM EDT
@JenaiaMorane
Also peer pressure and keeping up with the neighbours etc pays a huge part in this
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lesliefarooq
Jun 10 @ 10:39 PM EDT
@DJCE57
Meddlesome is one that just came to mind.
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rsehji
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:40 PM EDT
I also found hovering, overindulgent as describing the term
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https://t.co/NdYrTt5WsB
MrsMsClassroom
Jun 10 @ 10:37 PM EDT
A2:
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coddling, overprotective, helicopter, needy, denial, spoiling
DJCE57
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:41 PM EDT
@adamsomes
@KSThakral
hahaha, how about we use emojis instead, I've felt like this around some...😁 or 🙄 and 😖
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JKatzaman
Jun 10 @ 10:41 PM EDT
A1 I'm not so good with terms. I cut right to the chase for smothering parents: privileged, spoiled rotten.
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JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 10:42 PM EDT
@rsehji
@DeanJulie
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If you haven't seen her video you must. SO articulate:
https://t.co/4SyUQnipkr
https://t.co/mtkKiUT6Xt
KSThakral
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:42 PM EDT
@rsehji
underlining this is often a desire for their children to do better - give them a boost in life
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DJCE57
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:42 PM EDT
@lesliefarooq
ooohhh, love that Leslie! Moments when you wish you had a separate school for Ps😅 - what to do and NOT TO DO
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rsehji
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:42 PM EDT
Thanks for sharing, Jena
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https://t.co/nWVPwAMzPj
JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 10:42 PM EDT
@rsehji
@DeanJulie
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If you haven't seen her video you must. SO articulate:
https://t.co/4SyUQnipkr
https://t.co/mtkKiUT6Xt
JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 10:43 PM EDT
@rsehji
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I understood ? just want 2 avoid name calling & address reasons. Of COURSE Ps hover. They're byproducts of current system
adamsomes
Jun 10 @ 10:44 PM EDT
@DJCE57
@KSThakral
Spend a lot of time doing this then...🤔
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rsehji
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:44 PM EDT
@KSThakral
of course or live their life through them,fight 4 whts best 4 their child. I don't think I could call myself one though
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KSThakral
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:44 PM EDT
Agree Better understanding their needs to do this and then advising them how to do this effectively is better than just labelling.
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rsehji
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:44 PM EDT
Q.2 coming up...
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JKatzaman
Jun 10 @ 10:45 PM EDT
A1 Other words that come to mind: snooty, haughty, detached from reality.
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JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 10:45 PM EDT
@rsehji
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She's articulate about this. The myth of perfection - & belief Ps should push their kids 2 achieve it=at heart of issue
MittAubs
Jun 10 @ 10:45 PM EDT
@rsehji
@JenaiaMorane
Hi Ritu and Jena. Am I in time for
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?
KSThakral
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:45 PM EDT
@MittAubs
@rsehji
@JenaiaMorane
Welcome Deb. You are
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v_lees
Jun 10 @ 10:46 PM EDT
Hello
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Valerie here from Parparapumu (translplanted Canadiean) sorry to come in late. What's the Q ? topic?
rsehji
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:46 PM EDT
Q.2 Will they ever be able to seize the mantle of adulthood asks Julie Lythcott-Haims
https://t.co/VeE4PSui4O
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MittAubs
Jun 10 @ 10:46 PM EDT
@KSThakral
@rsehji
@JenaiaMorane
Hello Sunny! How have you been? What is tonight's topic?
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KSThakral
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:47 PM EDT
@v_lees
Welcome to
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. We are discussing helicopter parents and their impact on the development of learners.
JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 10:47 PM EDT
@KSThakral
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All part of mindset that says some are more worthy than others & we're in competition w/one another 4 survival & love.
DJCE57
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Jun 10 @ 10:47 PM EDT
A1 or we use expressions to go w/emojis when a P becomes meddlesome... seriously🤔 how abt we switch places😋😁 for real😁😖 oh boy🙄
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rsehji
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:47 PM EDT
@MittAubs
@KSThakral
@JenaiaMorane
yay, Deb in da house after ages. Topic: Helicopter parents
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JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 10:47 PM EDT
@KarlyMoura
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Thank you Karly I got em. Can you feel me hugging you back?
v_lees
Jun 10 @ 10:47 PM EDT
@KSThakral
Hmmm - great to have support/show support but need breathing and growing room to make mistakes and learn
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KSThakral
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Jun 10 @ 10:48 PM EDT
@MittAubs
@rsehji
@JenaiaMorane
Been good :). Disucssing helicopter parents and their impact on the development of learners.
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adamsomes
Jun 10 @ 10:48 PM EDT
Sorry everyone...I'm disappointed, but have to go. Enjoy your weekend!!
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JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 10:49 PM EDT
@rsehji
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Kids needs 2 be allowed to embrace the process of trial and error that is life - not be taught to fear the process.
DJCE57
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Jun 10 @ 10:49 PM EDT
@MittAubs
@KSThakral
@rsehji
@JenaiaMorane
oh Deb!! So happy you can join us, this is like a reunion - good old days☺️
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DJCE57
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Jun 10 @ 10:49 PM EDT
@v_lees
welcome to
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Valerie😀
JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 10:50 PM EDT
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Another great book about this is "The Gift of Failure" by Jessica Lahey. Fit right in with
@DeanJulie
and Not Perfect Hat Club.
rsehji
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:50 PM EDT
@JenaiaMorane
Yes, learn to be resilient through the process and learn from mistakes or as they mature
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KSThakral
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:50 PM EDT
@JenaiaMorane
Yes understanding failure better and giving space to breathe leads to greater happiness and enjoyment of life
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lesliefarooq
Jun 10 @ 10:50 PM EDT
A2: Humans have an amazing capacity to cope and "figure it out," when needed. Why should mollycoddled Ss be any different?
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MittAubs
Jun 10 @ 10:50 PM EDT
@rsehji
@KSThakral
@JenaiaMorane
Sorry that it's been a while. New job, big move... I know my share of helicopter parents!
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DJCE57
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Jun 10 @ 10:50 PM EDT
@adamsomes
happy weekend, Adam! Thanks for joining us today on
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...don't forget to 🤔 - 😅😂
KSThakral
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:51 PM EDT
@adamsomes
Thanks for joining Adam and the emoji chat is something we need to do more often
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rsehji
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:51 PM EDT
@MittAubs
@KSThakral
@JenaiaMorane
seems like you are enjoying the change.
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JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 10:51 PM EDT
@KSThakral
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Life IS a process not a test that you grade. Edison said he didn't fail, just found 10,000 ways something didn't work.
v_lees
Jun 10 @ 10:51 PM EDT
@JenaiaMorane
@rsehji
Article emphasizes the importance of giving students choice and responsibility as they grow up
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MittAubs
Jun 10 @ 10:52 PM EDT
@KSThakral
@rsehji
@JenaiaMorane
Helicopter parents often turn into bullies! They intimidate their child's way through school.
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KSThakral
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Jun 10 @ 10:52 PM EDT
@v_lees
True - it stems from anxiety of parents and leads to anxiety for children.
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JKatzaman
Jun 10 @ 10:53 PM EDT
A2 Transition from being spoiled into responsible adult is a challenge, even unlikely, short of drastic life-changing event.
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rsehji
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Jun 10 @ 10:53 PM EDT
@adamsomes
glad you could stop by for a bit. We will let you parachute off, Adam
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v_lees
Jun 10 @ 10:53 PM EDT
Important to continue educating & shifting community/P expectation that greater testing = better learning
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https://t.co/JLod4ZywZC
JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 10:51 PM EDT
@KSThakral
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Life IS a process not a test that you grade. Edison said he didn't fail, just found 10,000 ways something didn't work.
KSThakral
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Jun 10 @ 10:53 PM EDT
@MittAubs
@rsehji
@JenaiaMorane
Yes some can indeed - micromanaging every aspect leading to a very unhappy childhood
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JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 10:53 PM EDT
@lesliefarooq
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I'd go further & this is HOW humans learn. We need 2B challenged-How boring life would be if we knew all the answers
MittAubs
Jun 10 @ 10:53 PM EDT
@KSThakral
@rsehji
@JenaiaMorane
Kids need space to breathe and find their own way.
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v_lees
Jun 10 @ 10:54 PM EDT
@MittAubs
@KSThakral
@rsehji
@JenaiaMorane
Sadly true sometimes.
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rsehji
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Jun 10 @ 10:54 PM EDT
@MittAubs
@KSThakral
@JenaiaMorane
PTI recently made me wonder about this Q. Have to say Ps at my current school are cool/balanced
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lesliefarooq
Jun 10 @ 10:55 PM EDT
@JenaiaMorane
I would have gone further too, but 140 characters. Doom and gloom generalizations are rarely accurate.
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v_lees
Jun 10 @ 10:55 PM EDT
@MittAubs
@KSThakral
@rsehji
@JenaiaMorane
Portfolios and reflections help Ss and Ps see their own growth over time
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MittAubs
Jun 10 @ 10:55 PM EDT
@KSThakral
@rsehji
@JenaiaMorane
Some kids become timid others try to intimidate just like their parents.
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rsehji
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Jun 10 @ 10:55 PM EDT
Thanks for joining, Valerie and for the share
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https://t.co/0WDWPVGMXb
v_lees
Jun 10 @ 10:51 PM EDT
@JenaiaMorane
@rsehji
Article emphasizes the importance of giving students choice and responsibility as they grow up
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JKatzaman
Jun 10 @ 10:55 PM EDT
@MittAubs
@KSThakral
@rsehji
@JenaiaMorane
I'd say helicopter parents don't turn into bullies. They *are* bullies.
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JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 10:56 PM EDT
@lesliefarooq
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Hahaha don't I know it! Drive me nuts sometimes. I end up sounding so freakin emphatic. Everything a statement-sigh.
KSThakral
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Jun 10 @ 10:56 PM EDT
@v_lees
@MittAubs
@rsehji
@JenaiaMorane
Yes its not about a grade/number but the journey
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MittAubs
Jun 10 @ 10:56 PM EDT
@JKatzaman
@KSThakral
@rsehji
@JenaiaMorane
Jim, that is funny and true! I was trying to be polite! lol
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JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 10:57 PM EDT
@JKatzaman
@KSThakral
@rsehji
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Be gentle. Tho I don't agree w/what they do there is a reason. They're byproducts of broken system
lesliefarooq
Jun 10 @ 10:57 PM EDT
@JenaiaMorane
Why did Henry Bodkin write this piece? To finally make us aware of big societal problems or to sell newspapers?
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MittAubs
Jun 10 @ 10:57 PM EDT
It's difficult because parents need to be involved to work as a team with the T, but respect the T to lead the education process.
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JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 10:58 PM EDT
@v_lees
@MittAubs
@KSThakral
@rsehji
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Yes! And a way 2 model a different approach not based on grades but individual needs & growth
cvarsalona
Jun 10 @ 10:58 PM EDT
@rsehji
Ritu, I just arrived at
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but don't know how long I can stay awake. Carol from Long Island
v_lees
Jun 10 @ 10:58 PM EDT
@KSThakral
@MittAubs
@rsehji
@JenaiaMorane
We get too impatient trying to collect data before we develop data to report
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MrsMsClassroom
Jun 10 @ 10:58 PM EDT
A2- I truly feel it depends on how the S responds to Ps behavior-- as they get older they become quite vocal ;)
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DJCE57
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:58 PM EDT
@JKatzaman
@MittAubs
@KSThakral
@rsehji
@JenaiaMorane
true...
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wish there was a switch Ps & Ts day to make them see what it's like
lesliefarooq
Jun 10 @ 10:58 PM EDT
@JKatzaman
@MittAubs
@KSThakral
@rsehji
@JenaiaMorane
In my experience this is true and it's amazing to whom they can be bullies.
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rsehji
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Jun 10 @ 10:59 PM EDT
@lesliefarooq
Tru,have to trust their child enough and listen to T & their child's voice
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Sometimes Ts fear takes the better of em
JKatzaman
Jun 10 @ 10:59 PM EDT
@MittAubs
@KSThakral
@rsehji
@JenaiaMorane
No one's accused me of being polite and made the charge stick.
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KSThakral
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:59 PM EDT
@v_lees
@MittAubs
@rsehji
@JenaiaMorane
The data we need to focus at times is qualitative or perhaps a happiness index
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rsehji
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:59 PM EDT
Q.3 coming up.....
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rsehji
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 10:59 PM EDT
Q.3 Is there a correlation between the socio economic status and helicopter parenting?
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JKatzaman
Jun 10 @ 10:59 PM EDT
@lesliefarooq
@JenaiaMorane
Yes.
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lesliefarooq
Jun 10 @ 11:00 PM EDT
@rsehji
9 yrs of teaching seniors and even though I worried about several Ss, they are all just fine now. My worry was about me.
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KSThakral
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 11:00 PM EDT
@cvarsalona
@rsehji
Hi Carol
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Discussing helicopter parents today.
dubioseducator
Jun 10 @ 11:00 PM EDT
Not sure the topic but agree w/tweet
@MittAubs
Can u send link 2article? Haven't been to
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in a long time
https://t.co/Nu9Y2kfTlY
MittAubs
Jun 10 @ 10:57 PM EDT
It's difficult because parents need to be involved to work as a team with the T, but respect the T to lead the education process.
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v_lees
Jun 10 @ 11:01 PM EDT
@KSThakral
@MittAubs
@rsehji
@JenaiaMorane
Ps/commun struggles w/ "soft" skills focus even though employers stress them greatly
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JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 11:01 PM EDT
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I know Ps can be awful but think of kids who're bullies. We know there are reasons & they need help. Ps do 2! Can we stop blaming?
KSThakral
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Jun 10 @ 11:01 PM EDT
@MrsMsClassroom
They often rebel too and in some cases it impacts their learning behaviour negatively
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rsehji
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 11:02 PM EDT
@lesliefarooq
I can relate,sometimes we worry more & think Ps do 2.Ss rise to the expectations we have of them. we need to believe
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JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 11:02 PM EDT
@v_lees
@KSThakral
@MittAubs
@rsehji
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Yes! This=where learning needs to happen. Neuroscience finally supporting importance of SEK
v_lees
Jun 10 @ 11:02 PM EDT
Not sure whether it's a lack of respect, trust or fear-letting go of child's educ that causes Ps to hover
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https://t.co/kfNN5Uo1Yo
dubioseducator
Jun 10 @ 11:00 PM EDT
Not sure the topic but agree w/tweet
@MittAubs
Can u send link 2article? Haven't been to
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in a long time
https://t.co/Nu9Y2kfTlY
MittAubs
Jun 10 @ 10:57 PM EDT
It's difficult because parents need to be involved to work as a team with the T, but respect the T to lead the education process.
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MittAubs
Jun 10 @ 11:03 PM EDT
@JenaiaMorane
that's a tough one Jena. Parents who try to control the education and child often won't listen or accept help.
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JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 11:03 PM EDT
@DJCE57
@JKatzaman
@MittAubs
@KSThakral
@rsehji
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LOL me too. Walk a day in my shoes and all that. All Ps should have 2 teach :-)
KSThakral
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Jun 10 @ 11:03 PM EDT
@v_lees
@MittAubs
@rsehji
Like
@JenaiaMorane
said they didn’t experience it during their time (byproducts) & don’t know any better
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JKatzaman
Jun 10 @ 11:03 PM EDT
A3 I'd like to say no, but I have a hard time seeing parents in poverty telling their kids what salad to like.
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cvarsalona
Jun 10 @ 11:04 PM EDT
@KSThakral
@rsehji
Sorry I can't stay awake.Long day. Prof Dev session w Ts today & hosting Poetry Friday
https://t.co/4M6fBRUQ5x
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JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 11:04 PM EDT
@MittAubs
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I know that. Have even heard horror stories from U. But until we begin to address the causes we won't get anywhere IMHO
v_lees
Jun 10 @ 11:04 PM EDT
We need community, Ps and gov'ts to educate and share this in support of Ts efforts
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https://t.co/Y1d25knrzH
JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 11:02 PM EDT
@v_lees
@KSThakral
@MittAubs
@rsehji
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Yes! This=where learning needs to happen. Neuroscience finally supporting importance of SEK
KSThakral
- Moderator
Jun 10 @ 11:04 PM EDT
@cvarsalona
@rsehji
Thanks for popping in Carol. Always good to catch up with you.
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dubioseducator
Jun 10 @ 11:05 PM EDT
@v_lees
@MittAubs
Letting go is just plain hard! From POV of a retired kinder teacher. LOL
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But empathy/understanding paves the way
rsehji
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Jun 10 @ 11:05 PM EDT
Graphic I found that relates to our
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https://t.co/WlknZZqtq9
JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 11:05 PM EDT
@KSThakral
@v_lees
@MittAubs
@rsehji
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Don't hear me saying should tolerate-BUT do need 2 understand & address underlying cause
v_lees
Jun 10 @ 11:06 PM EDT
@dubioseducator
@MittAubs
Very true! Shared vision and discussions help- share the support
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DJCE57
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Jun 10 @ 11:06 PM EDT
@JenaiaMorane
@JKatzaman
@MittAubs
@KSThakral
@rsehji
absolutely, they will only be able to appreciate us more then
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lesliefarooq
Jun 10 @ 11:06 PM EDT
@rsehji
I believe. Watching my own little ones grow up I think we sometimes sell Ss short of their capabilities. They are amazing.
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JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 11:06 PM EDT
@v_lees
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Yes! Really does take a community 2 raise kids. Lessons learned in class must translate 2 real-world w/Ps help 2 reinforce
rsehji
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Jun 10 @ 11:07 PM EDT
#positiveparentingspectrum
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https://t.co/jy1iUBrsbR
KSThakral
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Jun 10 @ 11:07 PM EDT
@JenaiaMorane
Similarly us Ts can be bullies & exert unfair pressure due to our own pressures. Glass houses and stones.
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cvarsalona
Jun 10 @ 11:08 PM EDT
1st edition of my gallery with a look at springtime around the world=>
https://t.co/eQZQCM0PIz
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@KSThakral
https://t.co/mowyoHb61p
JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 11:08 PM EDT
@KSThakral
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I know we all need places like this to safely vent, so apologize if I keep redirecting. This subject is a pressing one.
MittAubs
Jun 10 @ 11:08 PM EDT
@JenaiaMorane
@KSThakral
@rsehji
In some cases the underlying cause is deep & personalTherapy is required but the P can't see that
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JKatzaman
Jun 10 @ 11:08 PM EDT
@rsehji
Helicopter parenting and cutting the cord -- is that what you call a mixed metaphor?
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v_lees
Jun 10 @ 11:08 PM EDT
I wonder how much is a byproduct of how fast we (adults/society) are used to getting things done 1/2
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https://t.co/h4TtqkzsIj
rsehji
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Jun 10 @ 11:05 PM EDT
Graphic I found that relates to our
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topic today!
https://t.co/WlknZZqtq9
rsehji
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Jun 10 @ 11:09 PM EDT
@lesliefarooq
I recently wrote a blog on this very same belief that we need to believe following an observation i made w/ sum Ts
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lesliefarooq
Jun 10 @ 11:09 PM EDT
A3: The helicopter might be a nanny or 2. If you have 3-4 adults in your life it's far more invasive than 1 working P could be.
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dubioseducator
Jun 10 @ 11:09 PM EDT
We all have narratives that influence who we are & how we relate to Ps, Ts, Sts schools and "the village we live in"
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lesliefarooq
Jun 10 @ 11:09 PM EDT
@rsehji
Ah, blogging, the final frontier.
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v_lees
Jun 10 @ 11:09 PM EDT
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2/2 Easier to do things than wait for Ss to learn/grow ? Fast paced / first world problems?
KSThakral
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Jun 10 @ 11:10 PM EDT
@JenaiaMorane
You are right Jena. Continuous badgering does not generate solutions. Better to focus on underlying causes
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rsehji
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Jun 10 @ 11:10 PM EDT
@JKatzaman
i guess, when you put it like that :)
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Makes sense, doesn't it?
JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 11:11 PM EDT
@dubioseducator
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Yes :-)
rsehji
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Jun 10 @ 11:12 PM EDT
@lesliefarooq
in the hope that at least a few wud get the message or at least pen my thoughts as a reflective practitioner
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JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 11:12 PM EDT
@v_lees
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Interesting. We are certainly a culture that likes quick fixes.
rsehji
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Jun 10 @ 11:13 PM EDT
@lesliefarooq
through experience I knew the way I learnt and found my direction my kids would too find their passion. It worked!
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JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 11:13 PM EDT
@v_lees
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Also easier 2 impose single system & timeline on all kids instead of allowing each 2 develop & find his/her own way & time
KSThakral
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Jun 10 @ 11:13 PM EDT
@MittAubs
@JenaiaMorane
@rsehji
Then it is up to us to turn their excess energy into positive - Involve them in school more
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MittAubs
Jun 10 @ 11:14 PM EDT
@KSThakral
@JenaiaMorane
Underlying causes can be deep. Some are highly personal. The P's are on a mission protect their child.
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JKatzaman
Jun 10 @ 11:15 PM EDT
@rsehji
@lesliefarooq
Where's the blog?
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MittAubs
Jun 10 @ 11:15 PM EDT
@KSThakral
@JenaiaMorane
The problem is the P's are not really protecting the child in most cases.
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lesliefarooq
Jun 10 @ 11:15 PM EDT
@JKatzaman
@rsehji
All this talking about a blog and we could just have the link, yes! Great call, Jim!
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JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 11:16 PM EDT
@KSThakral
@MittAubs
@rsehji
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Would luv 2 discuss more. It's about more than what Ts have 2 do, but certainly a great place 2 start
KSThakral
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Jun 10 @ 11:16 PM EDT
@MittAubs
@JenaiaMorane
I believe they are their child’s no 1 advocate. We need to support them too - never give up
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rsehji
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Jun 10 @ 11:16 PM EDT
Thanks to everyone of our lovely PLN who joined
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Do pls DM if you have a Q you would like to mod. We would love to hear from you😊
MittAubs
Jun 10 @ 11:17 PM EDT
Many are too involved in school to the point they practically work there. Actually some do work there to be closer to their S.
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trtboelman
Jun 10 @ 11:17 PM EDT
@rsehji
please please keep tweeting! Let's empower our kids!
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#dothemafavor
v_lees
Jun 10 @ 11:18 PM EDT
Very true - challenging w/ large classes and lots of needs/lack of resources
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https://t.co/LK3TK0G7Vt
JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 11:13 PM EDT
@v_lees
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Also easier 2 impose single system & timeline on all kids instead of allowing each 2 develop & find his/her own way & time
dubioseducator
Jun 10 @ 11:18 PM EDT
YES! If we look at Ps and Ts as advocates for the Ss then we set up trust that we both want what's best
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https://t.co/4iT9vJgAdr
KSThakral
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Jun 10 @ 11:16 PM EDT
@MittAubs
@JenaiaMorane
I believe they are their child’s no 1 advocate. We need to support them too - never give up
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MittAubs
Jun 10 @ 11:18 PM EDT
I agree that all "helicopter" parents want what's best for their child in their opinion.
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JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 11:18 PM EDT
@v_lees
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Oh yes. It's why I believe we need a revolution in Edu. But that's a topic for another chat - LOL
rsehji
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Jun 10 @ 11:18 PM EDT
Thanks Tammy for your support and encouragement. Much appreciated! Will do :)
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https://t.co/X3BjGmP2yh
trtboelman
Jun 10 @ 11:17 PM EDT
@rsehji
please please keep tweeting! Let's empower our kids!
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#dothemafavor
dubioseducator
Jun 10 @ 11:20 PM EDT
THx for sharing your ideas & listening to mine. Have a great week. School is over for the summer in most of the US
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JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 11:20 PM EDT
@trtboelman
@rsehji
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I've discovered if U give Ss creative tools & show U care about them (not grades) they'll knock your socks off
rsehji
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Jun 10 @ 11:21 PM EDT
@JKatzaman
@lesliefarooq
haha Blog link coming up
https://t.co/dmdn78CoCu
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KSThakral
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Jun 10 @ 11:22 PM EDT
@JenaiaMorane
@MittAubs
@DeanJulie
Involving them in committees - getting them to run events - deflecting their attention helps
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rsehji
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Jun 10 @ 11:22 PM EDT
@lesliefarooq
@JKatzaman
Would love to hear your thoughts
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SOC54
Jun 10 @ 11:22 PM EDT
@KSThakral
@JenaiaMorane
@rsehji
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https://t.co/ug8XbLhHsc
KSThakral
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Jun 10 @ 11:23 PM EDT
@dubioseducator
Thanks for joining in Faige.
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v_lees
Jun 10 @ 11:24 PM EDT
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Great chat - lots of thinking. Have to run - have a great weekend :)
MittAubs
Jun 10 @ 11:24 PM EDT
@KSThakral
@JenaiaMorane
@DeanJulie
Maybe. Some however badmouth good Ts that they are angry at and spread untrue rumors.
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rsehji
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Jun 10 @ 11:25 PM EDT
@JenaiaMorane
I believe that.Am seeing results despite grades being involved.It's lightg a spark and then letting it catch on fire
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JenaiaMorane
Jun 10 @ 11:25 PM EDT
@v_lees
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LOL didn't say it hasn't started. I just think we need to fuel and grow it.
KSThakral
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Jun 10 @ 11:25 PM EDT
@MittAubs
@JenaiaMorane
@DeanJulie
Use parent reps to counter them & spread positivity. Leaving them alone is never a good thing.
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KSThakral
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Jun 10 @ 11:26 PM EDT
@v_lees
Thanks for joining in. Really was pleasure to connect.
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indeed.
rsehji
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Jun 10 @ 11:27 PM EDT
@v_lees
Thanks again. Happy weekend, Valerie
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