#Zonefballchat Archive
#ZoneFballChat it is a chat meant to help coaches learn all their is about the Zone play and teach them how to coach it.
Thursday March 23, 2017
8:00 PM EDT
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Mar 23 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Welcome to
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let's start with check ins who is with us this evening
CoachMcConville
Mar 23 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Ryan McConville HC, Haldane Football
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LCGrizzlyFB
Mar 23 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Sean Price, HC, Labette County (KS)
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thecoachvogt
Mar 23 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Phil vogt. Palm Bay high school FL
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JENKScoachGWOOD
Mar 23 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Doug Greenwood Head OL Jenks America
#R4
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Mar 23 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Ryan McDonald OL Mooresville HS
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Coach_Timmerman
Mar 23 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Jake Timmerman OL coach @ Northside in GA
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CoachBlacha
Mar 23 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Phillip Blacha OL/S&C
@Bearcat_HS_FB
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In reply to @Bearcat_HS_FB
CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Mar 23 @ 8:10 PM EDT
We have a pretty close knit group every Thursday so we are gonna have a bit of a open forum this evening with some guidance
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Mar 23 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Q1 what is the best thing you feel like you do on Zone what can you improve on the most
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thecoachvogt
Mar 23 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Few understand the effectiveness of zone schemes once you truly commit and get rid of your book of schemes
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In reply to @CoachRmcD60
thecoachvogt
Mar 23 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A1-we are good at formationing people with it. We need to spend more time on it
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JENKScoachGWOOD
Mar 23 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A1: have a clear concise common language that allows for effective communication. Must ALWAYS GET BETTER AT STEPS
#R4
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CoachBlacha
Mar 23 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A1: double teams and I'd say staying on our tracks and not getting impatient
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thecoachvogt
Mar 23 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A1.2- our backs really understand the scheme. But we need more time for live reads
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LCGrizzlyFB
Mar 23 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Committing to it this year, only dabbled in past.
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In reply to @CoachRmcD60
CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Mar 23 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A1 we are finally understanding the scheme and I think we have to be more patient and let the back make us right
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thecoachvogt
Mar 23 @ 8:16 PM EDT
Welcome to the fold
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In reply to @LCGrizzlyFB, @CoachRmcD60
CoachMcConville
Mar 23 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A1 improve zone load with an extra blocker for the Qb to help on some of the gap exchange/edge blitzes if Qb pulls ball
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Mar 23 @ 8:18 PM EDT
What's the thing your guys need to understand better?
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Coach_Timmerman
Mar 23 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A1) This will be our 1st yr running zone as our bread & butter play so ask me again in a year & I'll have a better answer lol
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CoachBlacha
Mar 23 @ 8:19 PM EDT
Communication
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LCGrizzlyFB
Mar 23 @ 8:19 PM EDT
Inside zone, have seen 1 tech dbl teamed but also have seen a full true zone where he wasn't. What is your take?
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In reply to @CoachRmcD60
CoachBCampbell
Mar 23 @ 8:19 PM EDT
Blake Campbell, run game coordinator / OL Field HS, OH
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thecoachvogt
Mar 23 @ 8:21 PM EDT
Steps. Alway steps
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In reply to @CoachRmcD60
CoachBCampbell
Mar 23 @ 8:21 PM EDT
A1. We do a very good job making the LB come to us and securing the 1st level threats. Communication on blitz needs work
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Mar 23 @ 8:22 PM EDT
I am a big bubble guy also play with the H Back off of split zone keeps DE at Bay a little Thoughts....
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In reply to @JENKScoachGWOOD
thecoachvogt
Mar 23 @ 8:23 PM EDT
I'm no expert. But I do know the wide zone very well. Anytime you wanna chat lemme know
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In reply to @Coach_Timmerman
CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Mar 23 @ 8:24 PM EDT
What's your go to zone change up and why?
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thecoachvogt
Mar 23 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Depends on my centers ability for bubble. Normally I go where I'll have the most double teams
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In reply to @CoachRmcD60, @JENKScoachGWOOD
Coach_Timmerman
Mar 23 @ 8:25 PM EDT
How to best communicate what we want OL to do when it comes to tech details. Will come with time & reps I hope
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In reply to @CoachRmcD60
Coach_Timmerman
Mar 23 @ 8:26 PM EDT
Yes sir. I appreciate that. I will probably have questions once we start running it full speed in the spring.
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In reply to @thecoachvogt
JENKScoachGWOOD
Mar 23 @ 8:26 PM EDT
absolutely Seal, Swipe, Hit, Hat, Swab, Strike, EZE are various tags of IZ and Midline
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In reply to @CoachRmcD60
thecoachvogt
Mar 23 @ 8:28 PM EDT
Reps reps reps. Drill each tech a lot. Then do it at high speed once taught. Hand placement just as important as footwork
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In reply to @Coach_Timmerman, @CoachRmcD60
CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Mar 23 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Wide Zone is it Bang Bounce bend or full stretch why?
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thecoachvogt
Mar 23 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Bang and bounce is taught. Bend just happens. It's still more of a bang then a bend. Wide zone is a cut up play not cut back
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Mar 23 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Wide Zone is it Bang Bounce bend or full stretch why?
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CoachZupan
Mar 23 @ 8:34 PM EDT
always felt declaring the read as a line to the back. Have never been %100 happy with handling 4i's tech wise
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In reply to @CoachRmcD60
CoachZupan
Mar 23 @ 8:37 PM EDT
have struggled with angles last few years the art of where they are going to be not grasping like the old days
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In reply to @CoachRmcD60
CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Mar 23 @ 8:39 PM EDT
How many of you have built in options on Zone read book bubble now screens etc...
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thecoachvogt
Mar 23 @ 8:41 PM EDT
We have them..rarely use them. We are mostly under center for the down hill attitude and Big PA threats
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In reply to @CoachRmcD60
SenatorCoach
Mar 23 @ 8:41 PM EDT
Cameron Andersen, HBC, Gooding Idaho... checking in...
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CoachBlacha
Mar 23 @ 8:42 PM EDT
We have a lot of these now passes tagged with our zone. Depending on numbers and coverage we throw or give
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SenatorCoach
Mar 23 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A1: Best thing we do is create multiple, easy, run and pass reads for the QB... they have to defend the whole field on run!
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Mar 23 @ 8:43 PM EDT
How many block Downline man and read a LB on Zone read? Why?
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CoachColeJr
Mar 23 @ 8:43 PM EDT
All of our run plays (except 2 back power) have a built in pass option. Screen, bubble, stick, shot, we do it all.
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LCGrizzlyFB
Mar 23 @ 8:44 PM EDT
We will have bubble, solid screen off zone.
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In reply to @CoachRmcD60
thecoachvogt
Mar 23 @ 8:44 PM EDT
I like this aspect of RPOs. But in FLA the refs call the linemen downfield lol
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SenatorCoach
Mar 23 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A1: Best thing we do is create multiple, easy, run and pass reads for the QB... they have to defend the whole field on run!
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SenatorCoach
Mar 23 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A1: Part 2 need to improve the most on impact blocks on the 2nd level, getting double push but are getting small pieces of LB
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thecoachvogt
Mar 23 @ 8:45 PM EDT
I want to go to this if we read! LB has more conflicts than DL. +reading the Ene most D's have found the answer for
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Mar 23 @ 8:43 PM EDT
How many block Downline man and read a LB on Zone read? Why?
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CoachMcConville
Mar 23 @ 8:45 PM EDT
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both & y stick concept
In reply to @CoachRmcD60
thecoachvogt
Mar 23 @ 8:49 PM EDT
Good LBs always go under the block. Drill this. Force the LB to bubble over top or get blocked. Both creates running space
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SenatorCoach
Mar 23 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A1: Part 2 need to improve the most on impact blocks on the 2nd level, getting double push but are getting small pieces of LB
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CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Mar 23 @ 8:53 PM EDT
Let's use this last ten minutes fire out any questions comments concerns you have regards to
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SenatorCoach
Mar 23 @ 8:53 PM EDT
One thing we created last year was nasty! A now screen on the BS of OZ where the tackle pulls to corner!
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SenatorCoach
Mar 23 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Does anyone actively mix zone and veer?
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thecoachvogt
Mar 23 @ 8:55 PM EDT
We call this shield! It's good stuff out of 3x1
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In reply to @SenatorCoach
CoachRmcD60
- Moderator
Mar 23 @ 8:59 PM EDT
That's a wrap for this evening thank you to everyone who participated in
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. Make sure to tune into
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Monday's