#1to1techat Archive
We discuss all aspects of the effective implementation of 1:1 programs in schools. We are comprised of teachers, tech coordinators,administrators, and school board members. All are welcome to attend and participate. We also welcome topic suggestions.
Wednesday March 2, 2016 9:00 PM EST
Good evening! Welcome to for 3/2/16. & me are discussing SAMR + TPaCK Are YOU a SAMR iWariror https://t.co/flXT5ACHqP
Always enjoy TICL- and love it is at my alma mater Buena Vista University in Storm Lake, IA. https://t.co/qleskxa1Xz
Howdy all! Michael HS Principal in RI. Happy to be checking in tonight
Nathan and I will be trying to dissuade you from using SAMR. keeps students from reaching their potential by limiting teachers
Q1 Coming Up in Just one minute.
Sean from Orland Park IL Looking forward to hearing feedback on SAMR & TPACK
Julie from Tennessee joining tonight
is that pronounced Tickle
You up to the challenge???
https://t.co/l9OnSDNuAR
Nathan and I will be trying to dissuade you from using SAMR. keeps students from reaching their potential by limiting teachers
Vanessa - K teacher in IL. Hello!
John from Saco, ME. Hist Dept Chair and Tech Integrator. Tonight's topic: v. completing my class' website post for tomorrow.
K-5 tech integrator in mid-coast ME
Hello . Bryan from Alberta in and out tonight! It has been a while but happy to chat!
bring it. I have my c+ game tonight
A1 Definitely prefer the submarine pic. Allows you to go to areas never seen before
hi ! kyle - network admin from philly. google guru and chromebook enthusiast in a 1:1 ipad school
hi ! kyle - network admin from philly. google guru and chromebook enthusiast in a 1:1 ipad school
A1 def. not the coffee one, I don't drink any of those :)
A1 - The submarine is a good one! When you get "deep" into SAMR, the students should be doing some "deep" thinking/learning.
Big picture: How you use tech in your classroom SAMR = As a Substitution, Augmentation, Modification or Redefinition of learning
Tom from Maine. New teacher here to observe and learn
A1 tech is not always part of the solution to an activity
A1: I'll go with the sub as well.
A1: the sub and pool ones have some interesting imagery, wading in slowly, going "off the deep end," exploring, etc.
A1: SAMR the sub b/c it shows true change in product. Coffee is still coffee, a lifeguard makes a pool safe, not redefines it
I LOVE that we open with the question "Does SAMR apply - or should it apply - at all?" What do we think? https://t.co/kC8FGaxEyA
so a teacher assigns a text and has students to make PowerPoint. There you go a teacher used tech
Yes! One of my minions has arrived.
A1: Even though I don't like coffee, I think the coffee picture provides the best examples of the SAMR definition
Sorry to be late . I am a fan of the submarine. Oh the places you will go!
If you support or creativity, you cannot support SAMR. They go against each other.
I finally figured out how to get Ts here. Find a brand new one and trick/convince them to join. Threats work too.
It could apply to lots of tools. Computers aren't only example of technology in our history
A1 student need to have choices when selecting the write tool and SAMR takes that away from them.
how do we walk the line between forcing and encouraging?
Multi-tasking tonight but following
Expand on that . I see SAMR models as a guide to tech integration & not a wholesale approach to education
we talk about the student driven classroom, let students decide when tech is needed
I never feel like I get beyond Substitution though I'm told I get to Redefinition.
maker is about the freedom of choice. SAMR takes away exploration and choice
Q2 coming up in just one minute
If Ts look at the learning process first and allow for choice on assessment tool, then we aren't forcing.
I am glad you caught it . I wonder how many we can work into ? The more that you read, the more things you will know.
all 4 say tech. I believe in the student's ability to choose the correct tool for the job
I agree! I don't think there is anything implied in SAMR that says students don't get choice.
Does it though? How so? Seems like black and white thinking in a world of many colors
Agree abt choice, but does SAMR have to = no choice? I'm guessing yes many cases, but maybe not all?
SAMR is good for Ts new to tech integration, esp Ts who aren't comfortable with device yet. TPACK can come later
because if you tell a teacher you have to use tech, then it takes away a choice for the student
Agreed but what about when tech helps raise the bar e.g. larger audience for authentic assessment?
If you haven't yet joined this evening, do so IMMEDIATELY. Phenomenal professional debate about SAMR/TPaCK happening right now!
What if any particular Ss don't use tech well? Is it forced then?
maybe new teachers. But modeling is so important and something like sets the wrong mindset
then that is the student's choice. They are the driver and the teacher is the passenger
This is one of our main pts for tech integration - knowing & choosing best tool for the job. Not always tech.
Who's forcing who to use tech? What in SAMR mandates that?
I guess I feel more like SAMR is about creating opportunity to do things that no tech cannot. 1 of 2
A2: YES, agree. It's not about the device, it's how you use. You can steer yourself any direction you choose!
I don't think tech is always the way to go, though! I fully support and encourage choice.
SAMR also acknowledges that not all applications create new opportunities (the S and A)
I think you guys missed my replies--sorry--forgot to add
Honest Q- how does SAMR interfere with Ss doing this? https://t.co/fgeJZ0O7Vg
then that is the student's choice. They are the driver and the teacher is the passenger
to me it is about letting students become the best accessors of what is a good tool. is a 22nd cent skill
T Always looked at SAMR as an outline of how tech helps, not a demand to use tech
I like to think as SAMR as broadly applying to tools, of which there are many, and not always "tech"-based
I agree! Just don't think you have to pick a side b/n SAMR and maker.
Good point. If T or S chooses tool that's simple sub it is not impactful. Need more. Kid you'll move mountains
In my experience if Ts willing to push limits of M&R of SAMR then they are open to students doing the same.
Exactly. SAMR is also about redefining the task and not just selecting the tool
And maybe not always SAMR. But it's a tool - one of many.
Q3 coming up in just one minute.
Like anything we do use in class, the pedagogy needs to back it up! Tech can do great things!So can allowing exploration.
disagree with S and A. Mixed thoughts on M and R
agreed...Ts have to push A and M at some point in order for students to learn how to be self-sustaining
Defining task in more student-driven manner looks like Redefinition in SAMR context to me
Helps dev S understanding of self as learner. Will you succeed? Yes you will indeed! (98 & 3/4 percent guaranteed.
Q3: Which of these TPaCK images resonates for you? Why? (Technology, Pedagogy and Content Knowledge) https://t.co/r1LlnFsHM9
students should define task. Learning should be personalized not standardized
Does anyone's school require Ts to use tech in the classroom w/ Ss or make it a component of observations?
LOVE point: Whether SAMR or TPaCK "I think more Ts need to push for more student-centered learning with tech."
Asking questions & sharing is what this is all about! Love the thinking you are providing!
A3: neither. Too many acronyms these days. I love being 1:1 but am tired of euphemisms and redundancies
trying to get my answer to fit in a tweet
If so, can you please become my new Superintendent? We could REALLY use you! https://t.co/fTo8tbstNt https://t.co/eOUuWGi3fj
Does anyone's school require Ts to use tech in the classroom w/ Ss or make it a component of observations?
You are making good points and causing good reflection!
A3: I'll go with the Venn Diagram. I like the visual of the different places you can be.
Not required, but online use required for posting HW and grades.
Post a picture of your text.
A3- I don't like TPaCK bc its visuals are hard to grab in a short time. I get concept but don't love visual... compared to SAMR
I can teach physics with hot wheels & track, a cool way but doesn't use tech, but better
Thanks for the compliment or the attempt to kill me. I'm not sure which one it was.
A3, I have a hard time w/TPACK. How does understanding model make me a better teacher?
but maker is about the journey and may not have a right answer
A3: Venn Diagram version. Individual pieces of knowledge that can come together in so many different ways to benefit Ss.
Seems to me that understanding your content, pedagogy, and technology is a given. Of the 3, I feel like tech is least necessary
Again, I will say the greatest tool in the room is the Ts not the tech!
I'd argue it doesn't. Your interaction/relationship w/ your Ss makes you a T. No need for a chart.
And that is why it is awesome! But it can have a place along side tech. Nothing says one or the other
Where does SAMR require there to be one right answer?
Tech makes it easier to duplicate yourself and be efficient with time so you can build Ss relationships.
A1 TPACK is something that I can't figure if I like or night
Maybe it all comes back to personal view of SAMR.
That's exactly how I feel. My grad class brought this up last semester. Completely useless
Q4: Coming up in 1 minute.
ask about SAMR. He will agree with me
But that's SO much better than lecture, which too many Ts rely on
Not totally disagreeing with you. Just think there is a place for both.
Right assuming U allow Ss to S/A/M/R how they show you they know it. Legos = Minecraft?
. Depends on the teacher 😉
Thanks for the reply Gary
Q4: How has/can 1:1 allow(ed) you to increase your effectiveness as a teacher? i.e. augmented your Content Knowledge & Pedagogy
Why does there have to be a battle between tech and non-tech? Can't they work together to help each other?
nope, really believe in freedom for the student. Not limited focus
A4: 1:1 = wider reach, quicker connections, Ss choices, more Ss creation, easier workflow, PLN for me
Yes the can. And they should! https://t.co/rteBWoMvVy
Why does there have to be a battle between tech and non-tech? Can't they work together to help each other?
A4: I don't know if 1:1 has augmented either. Tech has but not 1:1.
SAMR doesn't say limit their choice to tech. It says that tech can open doors to them.
but when SAMR says a tech here and a tech there, it forces a teacher to think that way
Of course they can work together, but neither should be forced. Always do what's best for Ss.
A4 Many ways but our work with GAFE, providing feedback & shortening that cycle has been great.
Feel the same way, Nathan. The difference is that I allow others to have their opinions on how to get to that.
I like your answer to Q4 more than mine.
I'm all for it if that's the best way to teach it But I'm sure you'll use other tech
A4) No scheduling learning around when devices are available. Freedom and flexibility!
A4: 1:1 has helped make my classroom more collaborative among Ss and between me and my Ss. Communication is instant and two-way
A4: Reach people outside walls of our room from publishing, create more (less worksheets, more application), lessons
A4 1:1 has allowed for richer and more meaningful connections with community and families.
I'm certainly not a SAMR expert. Do you feel it's telling Ts to use it or trying to give Ts a path to follow?
If I got to design all of my learning in school, I would've tried to be the world's greatest Pokemon trainer.
A4b: I need a whole lot less physical stuff to teach in 1:1 program. iPad is my only requirement personally.
. Agree that if SAMR is what is presented, Ts will assume it's THE way rather than A way.
look at the picture. I may view things a little differently than most.
A4- Easy! Lets me duplicate myself (digitally) and easily lets kids progress at their pace!
Awesome! I would have created a game for EVERYTHING! Everything would have had a story.
My 13 year old son would agree!!!
A2: A device will only add the amount of extra opportunity that the learning environment allows. Ts must let Ss soar
Hi , thanks for all your feedback on my thoughts. Great chat!
That cannot be forgotten! https://t.co/3dPJ4rDDh3
A2: A device will only add the amount of extra opportunity that the learning environment allows. Ts must let Ss soar
some teachers need a standard of practice, but with the reminder that they can try something new
This has been great. Thanks. Think left & think right & think low & think high. Oh, the things you can think up if only you try!
what is life without a little color
Q5b: & posit that we need to focus on Technology Rich Unit Design, not SAMR or TPaCK. Agree? Disagree?
especially when they expect Ss to try things!
A5 I think we're expecting too much of any tech-based model that intends to change practice. That's where pedagogy comes in
A5: It's a powerful tool to get Ts thinking about meaningful integration & reflect on who the lesson is really centered around.
we need to focus on real life ideas where students find a problem & try to design solution 1/2
Love their work, but IMO depends on the original DOK & relevance https://t.co/NxoOWhKu9U
Q5b: & posit that we need to focus on Technology Rich Unit Design, not SAMR or TPaCK. Agree? Disagree?
A5: acronym is too long. Trying to explain something shouldn't be so difficult. Sometimes think we over complicate things
Thanks mainly to , NZ high school graduation now accepts video, blogs etc for the national qualification assessment.
2/2 that use multiple knowledge streams. That is innovation folks
And do we need to define "tech rich?" Is tech (or what tech is) req to provide transformative, student-drive exp?
Does anyone feel that they have truly gotten to Redefinition? Are the Ss ready for that? Are the Ts? The Ps? The Admins?
A5b: SAMR pushes boundaries, TPACK pulls it together, and TRUDACOT provides insight & reflection of lesson design.
Yeah, I think TRUDACOT pushed me over the edge.
my classroom is like an Edcamp. Students drive everything. I give some very basic parameters
I bet a lot of Ts have reached that w/o tech necessarily in mind. Getting to R req ped. shift, not just a tech shift
Fantastic summary https://t.co/jnIdpGcSrV
A5b: SAMR pushes boundaries, TPACK pulls it together, and TRUDACOT provides insight & reflection of lesson design.
No, takes a long time to get ALL on same page. Ps and Ss want grades. Ss trained to please Ts and some Ts fear tech.
I think we've seen some Redefinition. Remember we won't see it all the time, but when we do - did it really enhance?
It's tough for many Ts to let go like that.
important consideration.. does schl climate and regs/testing hold us back? Is it a convenient excuse? Both?
I try a lot of ideas that I do not know exactly how they end up. Thus the beauty of higher Ed
A5b: All tools - pick one and start! You have brains in your head, feet in your shoes, steer yourself any direction you choose.
I think TPACK really helps Ts keep all parts of the puzzle in mind - not just tech
Sorry, jumped into the convo with no intro! Andrea, Tech Integration Spec from Mpls.
I like this too, because it separates tech and pedagogy
I primarily look for ways to allow Ss more creative/personalized way to demonstrate learning. Tech helps.
That is one thing that TPACK does well--reminds us that tech must be accompanied by pedagogy
Q6: Coming Up in 1 minute.
I'm at an Indy school so, no, re testing.
as my school prepares for 4 weeks of online testing I must say how jealous I am right now!
Wow. Who is making that decision? Admins? The Gov't?
Not just accompanied, but learning objective 1st, then tech w/ the right pedagogy
A6: I'm not sure I agree with that model. Couldn't I redefine the way I ask Ss to remember and understand?
there should be an infinite loop connecting creating and evaluating
I'm not a fan of this one. We can do any part of Blooms with or without tech.
Wow. That type of move takes courage.
A6: I see no reason why both can't be used. SAMR looks like tech and ped, Bloom's doesn't require tech, per se
sometimes I thing we push tech too much and not enough on simpler solutions.
How did everyone get on the same page?
... and 15 years of work and PD :-)
Q6: Does it matter? If a T is using any of these to be reflective and create meaningful, engaging, student centered lessons -YAY
After picking Learning objective, right tool, & best pedagogy. Then you can check where you are on SAMR. Don't let it drive you
A6: Does it matter? If a T is using any of these to be reflective and create meaningful, engaging, student centered lessons -YAY
My book on Edu comes out this year :-)
I would say 15 years is moving a light speed.
I agree! Do feel that comes back to teacher though. Ss need to be allowed to choose tech or not.
How do we get autographed copies?
Maybe that's the point? If tech doesn't bring us any closer to upr lvls of Blooms, should it be used?
A6: most models have merit. But, None account for personal interaction, emotion, family, peers, & issues affecting our Ss
That change to student centered learning should be out real measuring stick. Where's that measuring stick?
: What did you discover or consider during this evening's chat that will change and/or improve your practice TOMORROW?
For Ts who use tech, how many come to class with paper copies just in case an S wants one?
We incorp tech as well as discovery and are diving into maker. Seem to fit along side each other rather than vs.
You'll love my book :-) It includes how we do it and how we got there.
We are using hard copy novels b/c they're cheaper!
seeing this and hearing your ideas makes me sad I'm not going to
: good to be reminded that pedagogy comes before tech
Giving students more choice, period.
THANK YOU ALL! Love a lively discussion (vs all nodding our heads in agreement). & I hope you join us every Wed 9PM ET
I'll check it out. Title?
The importance of https://t.co/G6rBB8JooZ is great but not be all end all. Teacher still needs to create the rich opportunities #