#ASEchat Archive
The Association for Science Education (ASE) promotes excellence in science teaching and learning. Follow #ASEchat Mondays at 3pm ET.
Monday April 18, 2016
3:00 PM EDT
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#ASEChat
Our expected host has disappeared, so tonight choice of topics is down to us
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:03 PM EDT
How should we challenge biases so all students can see science as an option?
#ASEChat
https://t.co/cRcdSVJKTS
ASPIRES2science
Apr 18 @ 2:52 PM EDT
We must support teachers to challenge biases so that ALL students can see post 16 science as an option
#ASEchat
https://t.co/TayMBJv6rB
CLEAPSS
Apr 18 @ 3:03 PM EDT
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#ASEChat
mccormackpj
Apr 18 @ 3:03 PM EDT
Vacancy for an innovative & inspiring physicist/science teacher
#asechat
https://t.co/OOqaXtvxsm
https://t.co/LjQZlcP7Jj
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:04 PM EDT
Reminds me years ago teachers asked to encourage girls into science - still not found the magic bullet
#ASEChat
https://t.co/cRcdSVJKTS
ASPIRES2science
Apr 18 @ 2:52 PM EDT
We must support teachers to challenge biases so that ALL students can see post 16 science as an option
#ASEchat
https://t.co/TayMBJv6rB
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:05 PM EDT
Also content appearing in GCSE that used to be A level, GCSE in KS3, and KS3 in primary. Is this really increasing standards?
#asechat
gregtheseal
Apr 18 @ 3:05 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
why should all students do science?
#asechat
BenjaminDBarker
Apr 18 @ 3:05 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
I think many chose sci at a-level+uni due to a love for it, I think that's the key. A deep intrinsic desire first.
#asechat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:06 PM EDT
#ASEChat
https://t.co/6p4ZxxQTZB
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:03 PM EDT
This week picked up concerns regarding how the specifications will fit into the time-table, also ideas for managing the practicals asechat
dave2004b
Apr 18 @ 3:06 PM EDT
@hrogerson
@Kevinberry03
#asechat
Helen, update on planning hours comments on
@ocr_science
community
https://t.co/NjYGDZLhQs
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:07 PM EDT
@gregtheseal
@ViciaScience
thats a good question Greg, whats your response?
#asechat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:07 PM EDT
@gregtheseal
I prefer them feeling capable of doing science, but do not expect many to do so
#ASEChat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:08 PM EDT
@BenjaminDBarker
I agree that something 'clicks' and motivates further study, rather than a feeling of mastery
#ASEChat
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:09 PM EDT
How are you managing the
#rocket
seed experiment?
@astro_timpeake
#asechat
saw some great displays from
@sarahpurplee
yesterday
gregtheseal
Apr 18 @ 3:09 PM EDT
@NeedhamL56
@ViciaScience
it often depends on what sort of day I have had.
#asechat
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:11 PM EDT
@gregtheseal
@ViciaScience
and today?
#asechat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:11 PM EDT
@gregtheseal
@NeedhamL56
Would you rather have a smaller group of enthusiastic science pupils or a larger group of indifference?
#ASEChat
gregtheseal
Apr 18 @ 3:12 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
@NeedhamL56
I would go for the smaller group of enthusiastic
#asechat
MrsDrSarah
Apr 18 @ 3:12 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
@gregtheseal
@NeedhamL56
Small enthusiastic group, no doubt. Indifference is killer. I want to be challenged too!
#asechat
BenjaminDBarker
Apr 18 @ 3:13 PM EDT
@NeedhamL56
@astro_timpeake
@sarahpurplee
Cross-curricular projects w/maths (data focus) + Michael Foale visit later in the week.
#asechat
gregtheseal
Apr 18 @ 3:13 PM EDT
@NeedhamL56
@ViciaScience
today has been nice but I think science is not for all
#asechat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:13 PM EDT
@gregtheseal
@NeedhamL56
me too!
#ASEChat
dave2004b
Apr 18 @ 3:13 PM EDT
#asechat
I like to take the broad liberal education view that it is part of their heritage, but that's from the position away from the ...
rjpritchard
Apr 18 @ 3:13 PM EDT
@NeedhamL56
True.Making it more difficult doesn't mean more pupils will understand it. Just makes it harder for some to access it.
#ASEchat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:14 PM EDT
@MrsDrSarah
@gregtheseal
@NeedhamL56
Used to find hard when teaching large gps of non science students AS science in society
#ASEChat
dave2004b
Apr 18 @ 3:14 PM EDT
#asechat
classroom. Day to day in front of indifferent students it can be hard to maintain motivation, ours and theirs!
doc_kristy
Apr 18 @ 3:14 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
@MrsDrSarah
@gregtheseal
@NeedhamL56
urgh, science in society, I remember that... And SPU!
#asechat
MrsDrSarah
Apr 18 @ 3:15 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
@gregtheseal
@NeedhamL56
I often think that large groups switches students off science at GCSE.
#asechat
helpmeimamedic
Apr 18 @ 3:15 PM EDT
Know someone who hasn't got an offer from
#MedSchool
? FREE advice:
https://t.co/kJrPshDAe6
#A100
#AspiringDoctor
#careers
#CEIAG
#ASEChat
BenjaminDBarker
Apr 18 @ 3:15 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
@gregtheseal
@NeedhamL56
Optimist: large group + convert them w/engaging prac/curric/experiences! (Realist deep down)
#asechat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:16 PM EDT
@dave2004b
so I agree, learning the cultural role of science is important but not same as learning to be a scientist
#ASEChat
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:17 PM EDT
@rjpritchard
Hi Bob! good to see you at
#asechat
Hard to agree which concepts/ideas just need leaving until later. Is it an inclusion thing?
ASPIRES2science
Apr 18 @ 3:17 PM EDT
Educators should target whole families in building knowledge about
#science
careers
#ASEchat
https://t.co/q940dHjrsy
https://t.co/V5Hb6YEzZR
dave2004b
Apr 18 @ 3:17 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
Yup.
#asechat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:18 PM EDT
@BenjaminDBarker
@gregtheseal
@NeedhamL56
Not easy to manage 'engaging practical experiences' in a large gp
#ASEChat
BenjaminDBarker
Apr 18 @ 3:18 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
@gregtheseal
@NeedhamL56
agreed
#ASEchat
dave2004b
Apr 18 @ 3:19 PM EDT
@MrsDrSarah
@ViciaScience
@gregtheseal
@NeedhamL56
This can certainly be made worse with non-spec teaching, making
#CPD
so key.
#asechat
SteveTeachPhys
Apr 18 @ 3:19 PM EDT
@rjpritchard
@NeedhamL56
the trouble is, too easy & they aren't fooled. They know they're doing ScienceLite
#asechat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:19 PM EDT
@ASPIRES2science
One approach would be to build science capital in the home , perhaps engaging parents in early years?
#ASEChat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:21 PM EDT
@ASPIRES2science
Surely it is more than science careers, -need to raise profile of science in society?
#ASEChat
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:21 PM EDT
@ASPIRES2science
This is a very interesting quote.
#sciencecapital
likely to be pushed over the next few years.
#asechat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:22 PM EDT
Should groups like
@theASE
campaign for smaller science class sizes?
#ASEChat
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:23 PM EDT
@rjpritchard
@SteveTeachPhys
was it really accessible, or was it the assessment model that ‘fooled’ us into thinking they’d got it?
#asechat
dave2004b
Apr 18 @ 3:23 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
@theASE
#asechat
Perhaps in line with the maximum allowed in D&T??
rjpritchard
Apr 18 @ 3:23 PM EDT
@SteveTeachPhys
@NeedhamL56
Is Science for everyone? YES! GCSE and A-level? Not necessarily.
#ASEchat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:23 PM EDT
Subjects like technology are usually taught to smaller groups due to nature of subject
#ASEChat
dave2004b
Apr 18 @ 3:24 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
#asechat
Is this not H&S issue as well - minimum spacing etc?
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:24 PM EDT
That has been suggested
#ASEChat
https://t.co/fbWWd7ISmE
dave2004b
Apr 18 @ 3:23 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
@theASE
#asechat
Perhaps in line with the maximum allowed in D&T??
rjpritchard
Apr 18 @ 3:24 PM EDT
@NeedhamL56
@SteveTeachPhys
To be fair, probably a bit of both! But it was certainly possible to engage them with it.
#ASEchat
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:24 PM EDT
Right
#asechat
, what's the topic and who said you could start without me?
edubabbIe
Apr 18 @ 3:25 PM EDT
The WCQ considers coping as a result of struggles to find objective facts in human development.
#asechat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:25 PM EDT
@dave2004b
Not such an issue when only practical requirement at GCSE was ISA. Will new requirements require more resources?
#ASEChat
ChrAndri
Apr 18 @ 3:26 PM EDT
@Sotonmslc
Educators should target whole families in building knowledge about
#sciencecareers
#ASEchat
https://t.co/SlQAYEsRnY
KendraBrooks08
Apr 18 @ 3:26 PM EDT
#asechat
Hi! Kendra Brooks here. This is my first Edchat. Thanks for having me.
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:26 PM EDT
This is critical idea Maths &English have to teach to weaker pupils, lessons fit for purpose, science can 2
#asechat
https://t.co/aVtSO86hp8
rjpritchard
Apr 18 @ 3:22 PM EDT
@SteveTeachPhys
@NeedhamL56
...and could make engaging for weaker pupils. Those pupils still exist.
dave2004b
Apr 18 @ 3:27 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
#asechat
Hopefully we'll see at GCSE what we're seeing at A-Level, much more prac work integral to T&L
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:28 PM EDT
@rjpritchard
@SteveTeachPhys
what did you do to engage them with it? Isn’t it the same stuff?
#asechat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:28 PM EDT
At what age of pupil?
#ASEChat
Are teachers equipped at primary?
https://t.co/2dQ49bPmAw
ChrAndri
Apr 18 @ 3:26 PM EDT
@Sotonmslc
Educators should target whole families in building knowledge about
#sciencecareers
#ASEchat
https://t.co/SlQAYEsRnY
rjpritchard
Apr 18 @ 3:29 PM EDT
@NeedhamL56
@SteveTeachPhys
I think for many its the exam that puts them off, not science. Particularly language/technique.
#ASEchat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:29 PM EDT
@KendraBrooks08
Hi. Do join in. Tonight is open house (regarding topics) although usually we do have a single theme
#ASEChat
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:30 PM EDT
Hello and welcome
@A_Weatherall
several chats going on. Engaging weaker learners, science capital for carers, science for all?
#asechat
ScienceTweacher
Apr 18 @ 3:30 PM EDT
Trying to keep exam groups engaged and active when we have no more practicals, just revision. Hard work.
#ASEChat
rjpritchard
Apr 18 @ 3:30 PM EDT
@NeedhamL56
@SteveTeachPhys
My BTEC pupils found ALL exam courses challenging, not just Science. Maybe the assessment is the issue.
#ASEchat
ASPIRES2science
Apr 18 @ 3:31 PM EDT
Who are the girls taking Physics A Level, and (why) are they succeeding?
#ASEchat
https://t.co/y4xW3LzU8e
https://t.co/Bv0aIljeuZ
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:31 PM EDT
We have to ensure this happens, given the arguments made over importance of practical work
#ASEChat
https://t.co/XoKrKxCYLH
dave2004b
Apr 18 @ 3:27 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
#asechat
Hopefully we'll see at GCSE what we're seeing at A-Level, much more prac work integral to T&L
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:31 PM EDT
Welcome
@KendraBrooks08
we have no specific topic today, see if you can pick up a thread of want interests you, and join in!
#asechat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:32 PM EDT
@rjpritchard
@NeedhamL56
@SteveTeachPhys
Just been reading Geography GCSE SAMS - really interesting and attractive exam!
#ASEChat
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:32 PM EDT
@ScienceTweacher
Simple solution to this - don't raise their expectations by doing practicals all year ;)
#asechat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:33 PM EDT
@ScienceTweacher
Do we need to redesign GCSE courses to avoid extended revision periods
#paceisimportant
#ASEChat
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:34 PM EDT
@rjpritchard
maybe its a whole school thing then to support students with coping with examinations. 2 years of engaging science
#asechat
..
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:34 PM EDT
@HGourlayUEA
@theASE
Perhaps not the best time to start such a campaign, but when would be better?
#ASEChat
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:34 PM EDT
Contains physics (not really) and is all about not doing all the whizz bang stuff. What do you think at
#asechat
?
https://t.co/GDrVjKtXcB
MrHistoire
Apr 18 @ 3:21 PM EDT
NEW Wasting time
https://t.co/QvpWq6O1Uz
…
gregtheseal
Apr 18 @ 3:34 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
@ScienceTweacher
Haven’t even started new specs yet!
#asechat
ScienceTweacher
Apr 18 @ 3:35 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
not sure how that would look but good idea to try
#asechat
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:35 PM EDT
@rjpritchard
focus on the mechanics of the exam near the end. they should all make progress this way, more imp than getting over C
#asechat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:35 PM EDT
@rjpritchard
@NeedhamL56
@SteveTeachPhys
Lots of photographs, data interpretation, choice of topics, integrated maths
#ASEChat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:37 PM EDT
@gregtheseal
@ScienceTweacher
Excellent! And why would you?
#ASEChat
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:38 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
yes, spaced practice and pace - I reckon we could and should work out a better structure.
#asechat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:38 PM EDT
@ScienceTweacher
We have not quite made the transition to terminal exams yet and are fearful pupils need cramming to remember facts
#ASEChat
dave2004b
Apr 18 @ 3:38 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
#asechat
Of course can need more resources - I put some ideas together here :
https://t.co/9xgoPXCcab
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:38 PM EDT
#ASEChat
https://t.co/gWiIxTgFwq
dave2004b
Apr 18 @ 3:35 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
#ase
Of course this requires more resources which-limited these days. I put some ideas together there
https://t.co/9xgoPXCcab
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:39 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
@ScienceTweacher
they need to remember it all as they go. And we need to teach it that way. An opportunity
#asechat
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:39 PM EDT
#asechat
, once we go to linear exams (2 /3 years) will SoW be designed for distributed practice? less cramming
https://t.co/A85i0iicag
ScienceTweacher
Apr 18 @ 3:30 PM EDT
Trying to keep exam groups engaged and active when we have no more practicals, just revision. Hard work.
#ASEChat
HelpfulScience
Apr 18 @ 3:39 PM EDT
Just came across
@DrChrisBaird
's brilliant science Q&A site - such a useful resource for science teachers!!
https://t.co/O7iyl39x4c
#ASEchat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:39 PM EDT
@HGourlayUEA
@theASE
Not seen the huge classes in Scotland seen in England, but often large top sets is dept choice
#ASEChat
ScienceTweacher
Apr 18 @ 3:40 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
Cramming just won't be enough with terminal exams. We'll need to be giving them loads of mocks to get them ready.
#ASEchat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:40 PM EDT
@dave2004b
Thanks - will read later and ensure this gets added to tonights summary of
#ASEChat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:41 PM EDT
@A_Weatherall
@ScienceTweacher
No. They need to understand as they go - and then most things will be remembered with brief review
#ASEChat
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:42 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
@ScienceTweacher
I mean regular reviews, designed for memory building. This is a hurdle that we find tough in science
#asechat
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:43 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
@ScienceTweacher
as there is so much stuff to learn
#asechat
SteveTeachPhys
Apr 18 @ 3:43 PM EDT
@A_Weatherall
@ViciaScience
of course you are right. But to make it work is such a huge change - who's brave enough?
#asechat
HGourlayUEA
Apr 18 @ 3:43 PM EDT
#asechat
https://t.co/vsvM37Vr60
carroll_dr
Apr 18 @ 3:32 PM EDT
It is life affirming to read how a HT is still peering curiously over the fence of science
https://t.co/bZnKuIP8yB
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:43 PM EDT
@ScienceTweacher
How will loads of mock exams help them? Are there other ways?
#ASEChat
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:43 PM EDT
@SteveTeachPhys
@ViciaScience
I'm brave enough, but I don't have the power. And I'm busy with
#computing
#asechat
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:44 PM EDT
@rjpritchard
well thats a whole new ball game. I might argue that been good at exams is 1 ofthe characteristics of a good scientist
#asechat
MrsDrSarah
Apr 18 @ 3:44 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
@ScienceTweacher
@A_Weatherall
Could we redesign students to have the 'I want to understand' attitude all the time?
#asechat
dave2004b
Apr 18 @ 3:44 PM EDT
.
@viciascience
@A_Weatherall
some ideas here
https://t.co/1wqRJHjQ15
#asechat
- we're writing similar for
@ocrexams
quals now.
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:44 PM EDT
@A_Weatherall
@ScienceTweacher
Do you mean they need to 'remember' or do you mean 'understand'?
#recall40
%only
#ASEChat
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:44 PM EDT
#asechat
Our science results are low enough at the moment that a wholesale change to teaching would be welcome
@SteveTeachPhys
@ViciaScience
ScienceTweacher
Apr 18 @ 3:44 PM EDT
@MrsDrSarah
@ViciaScience
@A_Weatherall
Yes, but that needs to start from reception. Too late by yr 7.
#ASEChat
cleverfiend
Apr 18 @ 3:45 PM EDT
@NeedhamL56
@ScienceTweacher
lots of embedding and real life science, application helps it stick!
#asechat
MrsDrSarah
Apr 18 @ 3:45 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
@ScienceTweacher
@A_Weatherall
Mine are good, but to be tested on 2-3 years, they have to have time to revise it!
#asechat
ScienceTweacher
Apr 18 @ 3:46 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
@A_Weatherall
you need both!
#asechat
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:46 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
@ScienceTweacher
can't understand if they can't remember and vice versa - I don't simply mean for recall questions
#asechat
cleverfiend
Apr 18 @ 3:46 PM EDT
@rjpritchard
@NeedhamL56
the exam boards are expanding into ks3 assessment now - it's that avoid or bad thing?
#asechat
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:46 PM EDT
@A_Weatherall
@ViciaScience
@ScienceTweacher
& if they remember is they will be able to make better links.. science unstd improves
#asechat
rjpritchard
Apr 18 @ 3:46 PM EDT
@NeedhamL56
I'd agree. But are they fit for purpose? Sure I read that GCSE Science exams have a reading age of 17+ or similar...
#ASEchat
gregtheseal
Apr 18 @ 3:46 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
@A_Weatherall
@ScienceTweacher
isn’t 40% a grade 6 now?
#asechat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:47 PM EDT
@MrsDrSarah
@ScienceTweacher
@A_Weatherall
If we teach children to question rather than accept, yes
#ASEChat
#nothard
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:47 PM EDT
#asechat
just because I say remember, doesn't mean I don't think higher order thinking required.
@ViciaScience
@ScienceTweacher
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:48 PM EDT
@gregtheseal
@ViciaScience
@ScienceTweacher
No chance. 40% is probably barely a grade 3
#asechat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:48 PM EDT
@MrsDrSarah
@ScienceTweacher
@A_Weatherall
Lets not forget the test is as much about what they can do as what they remember
#ASEChat
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:48 PM EDT
@ScienceTweacher
@ViciaScience
why not “low stakes” testing rather than “eek mocks’ build resilience to learn it over long period
#asechat
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:49 PM EDT
@NeedhamL56
@ViciaScience
@ScienceTweacher
#asechat
remembering is laying down bricks. The overall structure leads to understanding
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:50 PM EDT
good heavens!
#ASEChat
https://t.co/BoeuBwPd9U
gregtheseal
Apr 18 @ 3:46 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
@A_Weatherall
@ScienceTweacher
isn’t 40% a grade 6 now?
#asechat
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:50 PM EDT
#asechat
I am trademarking this terrible metaphor for my new teachirt business :)
https://t.co/X0htaJnauG
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:49 PM EDT
@NeedhamL56
@ViciaScience
@ScienceTweacher
#asechat
remembering is laying down bricks. The overall structure leads to understanding
gregtheseal
Apr 18 @ 3:50 PM EDT
@A_Weatherall
@ViciaScience
@ScienceTweacher
not if the same proportion of students get the equivalent grades
#asechat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:50 PM EDT
Sympathy!
#ASEChat
https://t.co/EEPimGfYAa
CGSGBiology
Apr 18 @ 3:48 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
@theASE
33 in yr 7 classes.Such a fundamental yr for building confidence & developing skills.Too many for us to be successful
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:50 PM EDT
@cleverfiend
@rjpritchard
personally I think they should keep out of KS3, they are exam boards FFS (apologies)
#asechat
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:51 PM EDT
@gregtheseal
@ViciaScience
@ScienceTweacher
hmm - I don't think it will work out quite like that :)
#asechat
rjpritchard
Apr 18 @ 3:52 PM EDT
@cleverfiend
@NeedhamL56
with my overworked teacher hat on: potentially useful. With my utopian educationalist hat on: no thanks.
#asechat
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:52 PM EDT
@NeedhamL56
@cleverfiend
@rjpritchard
EdExcel 5 yr is being bought in at our place. A goldmine
#asechat
SteveTeachPhys
Apr 18 @ 3:52 PM EDT
@rjpritchard
@NeedhamL56
we do cie & extracting the necessary understanding from the question is certainly the biggest issue
#asechat
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:52 PM EDT
@rjpritchard
@cleverfiend
you put it much more nicely than me bob, thanks
#asechat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:52 PM EDT
@A_Weatherall
I wouldn't buy one - memory is over rated. If bricks are memory, understanding is the window
#ASEChat
cleverfiend
Apr 18 @ 3:53 PM EDT
@NeedhamL56
@rjpritchard
looking at what the exam boards will offer for the new specs - some do everything but teach it for you!
#asechat
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:54 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
windows are empty spaces - just like the space between the ears ;)
#asechat
cleverfiend
Apr 18 @ 3:54 PM EDT
@A_Weatherall
@NeedhamL56
@rjpritchard
looked at boards ks3 schemes but not sure what they offer above lock in for the board!
#asechat
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:55 PM EDT
@cleverfiend
@NeedhamL56
@rjpritchard
and all unproven / untested? Where has expertise come from?
#ASEChat
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:55 PM EDT
@cleverfiend
@rjpritchard
professionalism destroyed, confidence that you can actually plan for your own children disappears. aargh
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rjpritchard
Apr 18 @ 3:55 PM EDT
@cleverfiend
@NeedhamL56
exactly. My previous tweet applies. Less work, but I don't think it leads to good teaching/learning.
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dave2004b
Apr 18 @ 3:55 PM EDT
@cleverfiend
@NeedhamL56
@rjpritchard
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we're hoping to strike the balance between support and professionalism of the teacher
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:56 PM EDT
@cleverfiend
@NeedhamL56
@rjpritchard
Costs a lot of money - I'd rather be paid to write scheme all summer :)
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gregtheseal
Apr 18 @ 3:56 PM EDT
@NeedhamL56
@cleverfiend
@rjpritchard
Or is it there is so little time to plan?
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ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:56 PM EDT
@A_Weatherall
Actually, no. Windows allow you to see the world outside your own confines
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gregtheseal
Apr 18 @ 3:56 PM EDT
@A_Weatherall
@ViciaScience
@ScienceTweacher
I think you might be onto something there :)
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A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:57 PM EDT
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I told you it was a terrible metaphor but
@ViciaScience
is rolling with it. *closes curtains*
https://t.co/C1QmKVtepi
ViciaScience
Apr 18 @ 3:56 PM EDT
@A_Weatherall
Actually, no. Windows allow you to see the world outside your own confines
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NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:57 PM EDT
*weeps* hope you are listening
@educationgovuk
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https://t.co/YSCiHjx2t8
rjpritchard
Apr 18 @ 3:56 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
@cleverfiend
@NeedhamL56
exactly. But schools will see it as a quick fix in the face of unreasonable curriculum change.
doc_kristy
Apr 18 @ 3:58 PM EDT
@ScienceTweacher
we do practical work in the 'revision period' but our current iGCSE tests understanding of practical work in exam
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A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:59 PM EDT
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@NickyMorgan01
@NickGibbMP
@ofqual
KS3 being provided by exam boards - just like they wanted
@NeedhamL56
https://t.co/Mn9VlYbgrk
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Apr 18 @ 3:57 PM EDT
*weeps* hope you are listening
@educationgovuk
#asechat
https://t.co/YSCiHjx2t8
rjpritchard
Apr 18 @ 3:56 PM EDT
@ViciaScience
@cleverfiend
@NeedhamL56
exactly. But schools will see it as a quick fix in the face of unreasonable curriculum change.
cleverfiend
Apr 18 @ 3:59 PM EDT
@gregtheseal
@NeedhamL56
@rjpritchard
is there that much planning to do in the short term? Most same as I did at GCSE yrs ago
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