#gtchat Archive

Global #gtchat Powered by TAGT is a weekly chat on Twitter that takes place on Thursdays at 8 p.m. ET/7 p.m. CT and 5 p.m. PT in the U.S. For one hour, parents, educators, advocates and experts in the field of gifted and talented gather to share resources, links, authentic life experiences and insights about gifted issues.

Tuesday July 18, 2017
8:00 PM EDT

  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to Global Gifted and Talented Chat Powered by the Texas Association for the Gifted & Talented @TxGifted #gtchat #TAGT #wcgtc
  • participatechat Jul 18 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Participate in the upcoming #gtchat by sharing resources and collaborating at https://t.co/BEJoOh0jXO
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Thanks for joining us to chat about “Meeting the Needs of GT Students at the Secondary Level” #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Let's take a minute to introduce ourselves. Share your name, location, role! #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Jen in N IL. Writer/blogger/homeschooler/advocate. Good to finally return to #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    I’m Lisa Conrad ~ advocate, conference presenter, blogger & mother of 2 gifted young adults from Pittsburgh, PA #gtchat
  • Giftedkidsguide Jul 18 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Carol Bainbridge from Indiana here, writer about gifted kids, mom to young gifted adult, advocate for verbally gifted kids #gtchat
  • jofrei Jul 18 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Hi! Jo Freitag from Gifted Resources and Sprite's Site Victoria Australia here at 10.00am Wednesday for #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Hi, Jen! #gtchat
    In reply to @laughingatchaos
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Hi, Carol! #gtchat
    In reply to @Giftedkidsguide
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    TX educator/advocate/speaker at UT Austin🤘 #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    <<< #gtchat Advisor! Hi, Jo!
    In reply to @jofrei
  • cathylw2 Jul 18 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    #gtchat. Cathy from Alberta in Canada. Science Learning Leader and science and math teacher, primarily if GT student.
  • MyTBP Jul 18 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    #gtchat I am Kelly-blogger, writer, elementary teacher & homeschooling mama to DS12 2e
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    ^^^ #gtchat Advisor! Hi, Heather!
    In reply to @msheathervaughn
  • aemcburney Jul 18 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Andrew McBurney. San Antonio, Tex. I teach Govt, AP Govt, & Dual-Credit Govt. Former Adv Academic Spec for Houston area. @gtchatmod #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Welcome, Cathy to #gtchat !
    In reply to @cathylw2
  • cathylw2 Jul 18 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    #gtchat. *students (plural, of course...definitely plural. Haha!).
    • cathylw2 Jul 18 @ 8:04 PM EDT
      #gtchat. Cathy from Alberta in Canada. Science Learning Leader and science and math teacher, primarily if GT student.
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Hi, Kelly! #gtchat
    In reply to @MyTBP
  • JeremyDBond Jul 18 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Jeremy, Connecticut, parent most of all. Also a day job at an education agency, nighttime advocating here and in other forums. 🙂 #gtchat
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Hi, Lisa! #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    Welcome, Andrew to #gtchat !
    In reply to @aemcburney
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    Hi, Jeremy! #gtchat
    In reply to @JeremyDBond
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    New to #gtchat ? We use the Q1 /A1 format for our chat. Don’t forget to add the hashtag >>> #gtchat to each tweet!
  • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    Hi. Gail Post from GiftedChallenges. Psychologist, mom, blogger from outside Phila., Pa. #gtchat
  • cybraryman1 Jul 18 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    @LesLinks Our thoughts and prayers are with you. We all miss you #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    Lurking to learn? Say ‘hi’, then view a livestream by searching ‘ #gtchat ‘ on Twitter, clicking on ‘latest’ results & refreshing this page
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    Hi, Gail! #gtchat
    In reply to @giftedchlnges
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    Question 1 is coming up; let’s get ready to chat! #gtchat
  • LisaKutsch Jul 18 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    Hi, Lisa from TX. Advanced Academics Coordinator, mom of GT kiddo #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    Q1) What are the main obstacles to continuing GT programming at the secondary level? #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    Welcome Lisa to #gtchat !
    In reply to @LisaKutsch
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    A1. Overcoming the myth that PreAP & AP courses are the gifted programming #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    A1 I think there’s such a focus on AP/honors courses at 2ndary level that the SE part of #gifted is forgotten. 1/2 #gtchat
  • aemcburney Jul 18 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    #gtchat A1) Belief that GT kids will do fine. Belief that AP is enough (some cases maybe but not always) Lack of state/fed rqmnts as with SE
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    These kids are gifted as internal wiring, not just in academics. 2/2 #gtchat
  • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    A1) Many students don't feel they have time for anything other than standard AP, honors classes #gtchat #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    This is SO true! Had this conversation this afternoon! #gtchat
    In reply to @msheathervaughn
  • jofrei Jul 18 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    A1) At Sec. level there are usually more subjects offered and the students has more teachers Timetabling gets more tricky #gtchat
  • aemcburney Jul 18 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    #gtchat A1) Belief that GT kids will do fine. Belief that AP is enough (some cases maybe but not always) Lack of state/fed rqmnts as with SE
  • MyTBP Jul 18 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    As an elementary teacher, this is out of my skill set. As a homeschooling mama, I might say hormones and social/emotional issues #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    A1) Secondary scheduling can be difficult to any student when so many factors involved – available classes, faculty & facilities. #gtchat
  • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    Most schools don't consider options beyond AP, IB - such as online, dual enrollment, college options #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    A1 Multipotentiality also comes into play; these young adults have ALL THE INTERESTS & it’s hard to fit it all in. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    DD faced this; no lunch after 9th grade. #gtchat
    In reply to @giftedchlnges
  • LisaKutsch Jul 18 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    Lack of differentiation & followup PD, belief that GT kids will be fine on their own, #gtchat
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    Great platform but not all g/t need that & not all AP has teacher infusing g/t strategies! #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    Attitudes of AP Teachers Meeting 21st Century Critical Thinking Needs of GT Secondary Students (pdf) https://t.co/iV6lbj8cTP #gtchat
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    Such a good problem to have, but very frustrating. And a scheduling nightmare! #gtchat
    In reply to @laughingatchaos
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    Yes, yes, and yes! #gtchat
    • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:15 PM EDT
      Great platform but not all g/t need that & not all AP has teacher infusing g/t strategies! #gtchat
      In reply to @gtchatmod
  • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    A1) Rigid restrictions about acceleration #gtchat
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    A1. Not all available training ties to secondary G/T needs/experiences https://t.co/eRDFutBFay #gtchat #gtchat
  • cybraryman1 Jul 18 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    My Multiple Intelligences - Multipotentiality page https://t.co/b29z6lYqhz #gtchat
    • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:14 PM EDT
      A1 Multipotentiality also comes into play; these young adults have ALL THE INTERESTS & it’s hard to fit it all in. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    A1) GT programming must be supported by strong advocacy from faculty & administrators; sadly too often missing. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    2 Wrongs Don’t Make a Right: Sacrificing Needs of GT Ss Doesn’t Solve Society's Unsolved Problems (pdf) https://t.co/gqVbPg3tPS #gtchat
  • aemcburney Jul 18 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    And there is still a persistent belief that differentiation doesn't work (even though teachers do some form of it all the time). #gtchat
    In reply to @LisaKutsch
  • jofrei Jul 18 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A1) Often programs/measures put in place in primary school are not continued in secondary #gtchat
  • JeremyDBond Jul 18 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    I hadn't thought of this. Looking forward to hearing about what parents can do if AP is all there is. #gtchat
    In reply to @msheathervaughn, @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    A1) Most secondary GT programs fed through existing primary programs; poor identification, lack of options weaken viability. #gtchat
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    Even though we have very specific TX laws for acceleration, students still have hard time having it approved #gtchat
    In reply to @giftedchlnges
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    This is definitely an issue in education today! #gtchat
    • aemcburney Jul 18 @ 8:17 PM EDT
      And there is still a persistent belief that differentiation doesn't work (even though teachers do some form of it all the time). #gtchat
      In reply to @LisaKutsch
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    Vertical plan is missing 😑 #gtchat
    In reply to @jofrei
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    Q2) What are some innovative ways to include gifted classes in middle and high schools? #gtchat
  • OohShiny_Sarah Jul 18 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    I honestly wouldn't know what to advocate for. My kids are lucky to have AP classes at all in our rural location. #gtchat (& hi, I'm Sarah)
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    It works when teachers understand it & have training! #gtchat
    In reply to @aemcburney, @LisaKutsch
  • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    A2 I <3 independent study, but then…I #homeschool. LOL! #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    We faced this as well, and it got worse after my kids graduated. I advocated A LOT, but when my voice was gone; so too the programs. #gtchat
    In reply to @OohShiny_Sarah
  • LisaKutsch Jul 18 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    Q2) I'd like to have a google classroom where kids can checkin and work on their projects. District showcase in fall and spring #gtchat
  • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    A2) A lot more options in middle school - ACTUAL gifted classes/ability grouped would go a long way #gtchat
  • jofrei Jul 18 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    Differentiation works well if pitched at the right level, depth and pace however extreme! #gtchat
    In reply to @aemcburney, @LisaKutsch
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    Welcome to #gtchat Sarah!
    In reply to @OohShiny_Sarah
  • MyTBP Jul 18 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    As a homeschooling parent, I would like more flexibility w/ scheduling and the ability to attend high interest classes w/o enrolling #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    A2) Innovation needs to be based on acceptance that gifted classes should be demonstrably different from general ed. #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    YES! This! #gtchat
    • MyTBP Jul 18 @ 8:22 PM EDT
      As a homeschooling parent, I would like more flexibility w/ scheduling and the ability to attend high interest classes w/o enrolling #gtchat
      In reply to @gtchatmod
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    Definitely, but there are options to have online AP courses...provided through the school. @ut_uths is just 1 school that partners #gtchat
    In reply to @OohShiny_Sarah, @gtchatmod, @ut_uths
  • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    A2) Consider "advanced" honors classes in HS to provide depth, intensity - most schools have honors as watered down AP #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    Meeting Needs of G&T Students: Case Study of Virtual Learning Lab in Rural Middle School (pdf) https://t.co/AR9QXSL1ov #gtchat
  • aemcburney Jul 18 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    A2) Distance learning opportunities for GT kids in rural areas. #gtchat
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    A2. Creating course sections (0 funding needed!) that are specific for G/T so that the teacher can focus on #gifted strategies! #gtchat
  • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    RT @gtchatmod A2) Innovation needs to be based on acceptance that gifted classes should be demonstrably different from general ed. #gtchat
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    Exactly! @ut_uths partners with schools throughout the 🌎 #gtchat
    In reply to @aemcburney, @ut_uths
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    Especially true if there are no requirements beyond parent request to get into AP. #gtchat
    In reply to @giftedchlnges
  • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    My kid does nearly all distance learning as a homeschooler. It does exist, it’s just up to pub schools to implement. #gtchat
    In reply to @aemcburney
  • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    A2) Dual enrollment at local colleges #gtchat
  • OohShiny_Sarah Jul 18 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    For my most academically-directed GT kid, that's a great option. For my explorer-inventor kid, it's hard to know what to wish for. #gtchat
    In reply to @msheathervaughn, @gtchatmod, @ut_uths
  • jofrei Jul 18 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    A2) Dual enrollment with tertiary ed, mentors, online courses, career guidance #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    A2) Middle & high school GT classes reap greatest benefit in standalone programming; both academically & social-emotionally #gtchat
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    ❤️ this! Let's be #creative, people! #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    Services for Secondary Students Who are Gifted Questions & Answers (pdf) https://t.co/KcN6FRVxKr #gtchat
  • LisaKutsch Jul 18 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    Tailored curriculum focused on students' area of giftedness. Not all gifted kids are the same! #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    Q3) How do you approach middle/high school students who weren’t challenged at elementary level? #gtchat
  • cybraryman1 Jul 18 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    Key factor is how you communicate with #gifted or any student. My #GrowthMindset page https://t.co/0glE7eY0v1 #gtchat
  • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    A2) Innovative options that tap into their passions (e.g, STEM, writing, arts, political debate) #gtchat
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    A2. Blended/online learning options so that g/t can choose their pace on topics; learning labs for example #gtchat #edchat #edtechchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    Why we need to advocate for individualized learning! #gtchat
    • LisaKutsch Jul 18 @ 8:26 PM EDT
      Tailored curriculum focused on students' area of giftedness. Not all gifted kids are the same! #gtchat
  • aemcburney Jul 18 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    #gtchat A3) Many may be resistant/angry. Help them find interests and pursue. Have a frank convo about situation and goals.
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    A2. Capstone or independent study courses at high school #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    Thanks, Jerry! So appreciate all the resources you share! Makes my job easier. :) #gtchat
    In reply to @cybraryman1
  • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    A3 If the student hasn’t shut down from lack of involvement, I’d say just follow their lead. #gtchat
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    #personalizedlearning is the way of the future (ahem...now)! #gtchat
    In reply to @giftedchlnges
  • Giftedkidsguide Jul 18 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    #3 is a good question since g/t kids who weren't challenged before become underachievers and then tend to be ignored. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    A3) Teachers & parents shouldn’t shy away from providing remedial/special skills classes to catch up GT students in specific areas. #gtchat
  • OohShiny_Sarah Jul 18 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    #gtchat A2 I'm working with a group of "leadership" kids - trying to scoop up the GT kids as possible - in my career ed class 1/2
  • MyTBP Jul 18 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    #gtchat throw out the borrowing or rote and replace w/ high interest & those activities that connect w/ life skills/real example
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    A3. Provide choice, embed s/e skills, cultivate acceptance of failure, empower with g/t info #gtchat #secondary
  • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    A3) Engage their passions #gtchat
  • OohShiny_Sarah Jul 18 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    #gtchat A2 I'm offering several paths to A's via projects the kids can choose, & featuring a weekly "talk show" to give more voice to Ss 2/2
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    I've seen this SO often; heartbreaking. #gtchat
    • Giftedkidsguide Jul 18 @ 8:29 PM EDT
      #3 is a good question since g/t kids who weren't challenged before become underachievers and then tend to be ignored. #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    And marginalized & shunted aside for the high achieving performers. #gtchat
    • Giftedkidsguide Jul 18 @ 8:29 PM EDT
      #3 is a good question since g/t kids who weren't challenged before become underachievers and then tend to be ignored. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    We’re already half way through our chat! Thanks for all the great sharing! #gtchat
  • FredBoness Jul 18 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Ignored first, then become underachievers. #gtchat
    In reply to @Giftedkidsguide
  • aemcburney Jul 18 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Giftedness in leadership is very very underappreciated. #gtchat
    In reply to @OohShiny_Sarah
  • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    A3) Group them with other GT students to offer support/competitive challenge and engagement #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Or interpersonal skills. I know this personally. #gtchat
    • aemcburney Jul 18 @ 8:31 PM EDT
      Giftedness in leadership is very very underappreciated. #gtchat
      In reply to @OohShiny_Sarah
  • jofrei Jul 18 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    A3) Dr George Betts has much wisdom about caring for The Disenchanted students #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    This alone saved my ds. #gtchat
    • aemcburney Jul 18 @ 8:31 PM EDT
      Giftedness in leadership is very very underappreciated. #gtchat
      In reply to @OohShiny_Sarah
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Most definitely! These students have very special skills that should be utilized & grown! #gtchat
    In reply to @aemcburney, @OohShiny_Sarah
  • OohShiny_Sarah Jul 18 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    #gtchat A3 This is such a good Q, esp. since so few kids of color are identified in middle school. They still need to be stretched in HS
  • MrsEllyGilbert Jul 18 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    A2 We are including GT in our enrichment options this year. Kids 4-8 will get 5 hr/wk of a class directed to their needs/interests . #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Tips for Teachers: Successful Strategies for Teaching Gifted Learners https://t.co/mdyHaz5XRQ #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A3) PD development should be offered to teachers on identifying underachievers &/or 2E students #gtchat
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Then people question how they were identified. And really we lost them... #gtchat
    In reply to @FredBoness, @Giftedkidsguide
  • cathylw2 Jul 18 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    #gtchat. My school 1 of 2 middle schools in our city that have congregated GATE classes. Some grping accel and enriched when appro. Love.
    • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:21 PM EDT
      A2) A lot more options in middle school - ACTUAL gifted classes/ability grouped would go a long way #gtchat
  • MyTBP Jul 18 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    #gtchat Agreed!!
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A3) They see through bull - be genuine, intelligent, don't patronize, win their respect #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Educating Gifted Students in Middle School: A Practical Guide (Prufrock) https://t.co/nhfkHw83Yd #gtchat
  • cathylw2 Jul 18 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    #gtchat. Yes!
  • OohShiny_Sarah Jul 18 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    So great. My own kids have literally become near-depressed during 4&7 because of the repetitive testing practice. Hard times. #gtchat
    In reply to @MrsEllyGilbert
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Right! It's inevitable & we should welcome it because it's one step closer to something great! #gtchat
    In reply to @MrsEllyGilbert
  • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    It’s stunning when I get a #gifted flute student; they can’t believe I talk to them as a person. :o #gtchat
    In reply to @giftedchlnges
  • NiceBigBuns Jul 18 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Could you expand on Standalone Programming, please? #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Q4) What role should the Arts play in a GT student’s schedule? #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    My kid would come home in April & say “WE LEARNED SOMETHING TODAY!” :o #gtchat
    In reply to @OohShiny_Sarah, @MrsEllyGilbert
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Huge need for understanding the gifted s/e needs at secondary...they are amplified #gtchat
    In reply to @giftedchlnges
  • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A4 THE ARTS ARE A NECESSARY PART OF LIFE & EDUCATION!!! So says the musician. #gtchat
  • aemcburney Jul 18 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    #gtchat A4) Depends on student. May not be gifted in arts. But arts r important for all kids. Should b many options & opp for adv courses.
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    There are a few districts that ability group students with intellectual peers even at the secondary level. #gtchat
    In reply to @NiceBigBuns
  • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    So sad... #gtchat
    In reply to @laughingatchaos
  • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Homeschooled now. He learns daily, hourly now. #gtchat
    In reply to @giftedchlnges
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A4) What gets included in a GT student’s schedule should balance academics with passions; including the Arts. #gtchat
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    We do this in our id & assessment/ nature&needs courses https://t.co/eRDFutBFay #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A4 Look, I think every student NEEDS a baseline arts education. It’s part of humanity. It’s vital. #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A4 I think, after a point, that students should all be set on ind. study/capstone projects. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    The Myth of Gifted Curriculum: Rethinking Bloom’s Taxonomy (p. 6, pdf) https://t.co/Ah4SqoNly1 #gtchat
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A4. Avenues for #creativity & exposure to multiple outlets is crucial! #gtchat #edchat
  • MyTBP Jul 18 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    #gtchat it is vitally important for those students interested in the Arts
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A4) Arts can be integrated into other subjects - math, history, writing, etc. - even for non-artistically interested #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A4) Students, parents & school personnel can make the best decisions when lines of communication are fully open. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    AP & IB Programs: A “Fit” for Gifted Learners? https://t.co/jVTtwtnIxc #gtchat
  • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A4) For those interested in arts, it is absolutely critical #gtchat
  • kirk_humphreys Jul 18 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A3: Usually gifted students are so eager to learn that they are always up for a challenge. It drives them. #gtchat
  • OohShiny_Sarah Jul 18 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    #gtchat agreed. I think GT kids need to understand the language of the world around them, even if they're not personally "arty"
    In reply to @laughingatchaos
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    Wouldn't this be ideal? Slowly but surely ... #gtchat
    • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:39 PM EDT
      A4) Arts can be integrated into other subjects - math, history, writing, etc. - even for non-artistically interested #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    Unless their desire to learn has been stifled by the ed system. Happened to my kid. #gtchat
    In reply to @kirk_humphreys
  • MrsEllyGilbert Jul 18 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A4 Arts ed makes well rounded citizens. Integrate it everywhere! #gtchat
  • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A2) Most GT students can be encouraged to engage their creativity, even if not interested in traditional art ventures #gtchat
  • OohShiny_Sarah Jul 18 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Plano ISD's humanities classes were awesome in this way. That was their GT offering in secondary. #gtchat
    In reply to @laughingatchaos
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Q5) Should academic competitions be considered GT programming? #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    SO many reasons why I homeschool him now. That was one. #gtchat
    In reply to @kirk_humphreys
  • MyTBP Jul 18 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    #gtchat yes!! We love integrating w/math and science
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A5 NO! Not every #gifted kid is high-achieving or competitive. If they aren’t, they still NEED GT programming. #gtchat
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A5. YES! Optionally of course…these can be embedded in course work as well. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A5) Academic competitions can supplement a GT student’s schedule, but shouldn’t be considered a replacement. #gtchat
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    Love using the stock market game & science olympiad! #gtchat
    In reply to @MyTBP, @gtchatmod
  • jofrei Jul 18 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A5) Academic competitions can be useful enjoyable additions but should not be the only form of gifted programming #gtchat
  • MyTBP Jul 18 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    #gtchat Oh please no!! That would not match the needs and/or interests of many GT students
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A5) They should be available to any student interested - but are NOT related to GT programming #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Meeting the Needs of Gifted & Talented Students (Book Depository) https://t.co/rVgfWucjSe #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A5) Many GT students love & thrive in academic competitions with intellectual peers; but it isn’t GT programming #gtchat
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    We have teachers use the comp. strategies (like Destination Imagination) in class, but students can decide to compete separately #gtchat
    In reply to @laughingatchaos
  • kirk_humphreys Jul 18 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A5:I think competition has no place within the classroom environment, gifted or not. Ss should complete with themselves, not others. #gtchat
  • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A5) Introverted, social justice-loving GT kids might shy away from competition, prefer to compete with themselves, not others #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    THIS!!!! #gtchat
    • kirk_humphreys Jul 18 @ 8:46 PM EDT
      A5:I think competition has no place within the classroom environment, gifted or not. Ss should complete with themselves, not others. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    I agree. I had one kid who loved this and one who didn't. Each different. #gtchat
  • OohShiny_Sarah Jul 18 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Some kids love it, though. #gtchat
    In reply to @laughingatchaos
  • MrsEllyGilbert Jul 18 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A5 They can be ONE service option. Creates a real world environment in which the GT kids can thrive. Plus interaction w/like minds. #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    Absolutely! But it shouldn’t be THE GT program to the exclusion of everything else. I teach flutists, but I don’t make them compete. #gtchat
    In reply to @OohShiny_Sarah
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    MANY school districts in my area substitute Odyssey of the Mind or Mock Trial for only GT programming. #gtchat
    • kirk_humphreys Jul 18 @ 8:46 PM EDT
      A5:I think competition has no place within the classroom environment, gifted or not. Ss should complete with themselves, not others. #gtchat
  • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A5) Competitions may impact perfectionistic, insecure, impostor-driven GT kids, who worry about upholding their GT status #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    “I failed, guess I’m not gifted after all.” :( #gtchat
    • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:48 PM EDT
      A5) Competitions may impact perfectionistic, insecure, impostor-driven GT kids, who worry about upholding their GT status #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    UK: Policy for Meeting the Needs of the Most Able, Gifted & Talented Boys (pdf) https://t.co/AGdw1jsYpu #gtchat
  • OohShiny_Sarah Jul 18 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    #gtchat A5 There has to be somewhere for GT kids to be able to use their full capabilities - science fair, debate, show choir, something.
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    In TX, communicating a "continuum of learning experiences" is expected so this is just another option #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    Exactly. Not all are great competitors. #gtchat
    • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:48 PM EDT
      A5) Competitions may impact perfectionistic, insecure, impostor-driven GT kids, who worry about upholding their GT status #gtchat
  • JeremyDBond Jul 18 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    Sorry, got dinner & fell behind... The arts help g/t or any kid who may struggle with connecting with themselves or others. #artsed #gtchat
  • cathylw2 Jul 18 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    #gtchat. A5: These can be one of a plethora of components of GT programming, but only for those eager or as opportunity after S/T talk.
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    Q6) Can mentorships, internships, research projects meet the need for GT programming at the high school level? #gtchat
  • jofrei Jul 18 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    Some GT students would never be selected for interschool competitions because of behaviour/social emotional issues or being 2E #gtchat
  • nevitdilmen Jul 18 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    Digest for #Gifted! Parents and Educators! is out! https://t.co/XKgN0JQDFQ #gtchat #ihsnet
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    Substitution is NOT okay, rather should be an enhancement #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A5) Those who thrive on competition may be driven by the challenge and benefit - but it shouldn't be forced on everyone #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A6) Mentorships, internships & research projects enhance GT programming, but not sufficient as standalone option #gtchat
  • NiceBigBuns Jul 18 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    Thank you! That sounds fantastic. #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Yes! This is very true, Jo! #gtchat
    • jofrei Jul 18 @ 8:51 PM EDT
      Some GT students would never be selected for interschool competitions because of behaviour/social emotional issues or being 2E #gtchat
  • OohShiny_Sarah Jul 18 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    No, but it's no fun to have to hide your light under a bushel all the time, either. #gtchat
    In reply to @laughingatchaos
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Agreed! Many programs & students benefits from a service of interest. #gtchat
    In reply to @MrsEllyGilbert
  • aemcburney Jul 18 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    #gtchat A5) Depends. GT kids may love them and excel, but if comp is just m/c tests, then no. GT needs to go further.
  • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A6 Mentorships are so, so valuable. @MrGelston is an amazing mentor for my kid. But they shouldn’t be the ONLY GT option. #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    Uppervention: Meeting the Needs of Gifted & Talented Students via @edutopia https://t.co/v55SZncOFC #gtchat
  • aemcburney Jul 18 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    #gtchat A6) Yes! These things should also be offered to all students, but they absolutely can meet needs of GT.
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A6. Yes, yes, yes!!! Students want those realworld opportunities to formulate their own paths. #gtchat #edchat
  • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    Don’t disagree (remember, I’m a prof. flutist-I compete a lot), but can’t be the ONLY. #gtchat
    In reply to @OohShiny_Sarah
  • kirk_humphreys Jul 18 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A6: Mentorships, internships, Res. projects are amazing things for all students and should be available to all in some capacaty. #gtchat
  • KDrakeAuthor Jul 18 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    Q6 mentors, internships are a must, but are a resource, not part of a program. #gtchat
  • cathylw2 Jul 18 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    #gtchat A5b: ... and yes, as a couple have said, being challenged by the task (sci olympics, math contest), not to compete with each other
    • cathylw2 Jul 18 @ 8:50 PM EDT
      #gtchat. A5: These can be one of a plethora of components of GT programming, but only for those eager or as opportunity after S/T talk.
  • MyTBP Jul 18 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    #gtchat if done well-yes!! I think these programs are vitally important. Few opportunities unfortunately
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A6) GT HS students should be engaged in college-level pursuits with adequate supports to ensure success. #gtchat
  • JeremyDBond Jul 18 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    Only, God forbid, human. #gtchat
    • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:49 PM EDT
      “I failed, guess I’m not gifted after all.” :( #gtchat
      • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:48 PM EDT
        A5) Competitions may impact perfectionistic, insecure, impostor-driven GT kids, who worry about upholding their GT status #gtchat
  • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A6) Internships, research, etc. are so helpful - not only enriching, but show GT there is life after HS! #gtchat
  • laughingatchaos Jul 18 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    RIGHT???? #gtchat
    In reply to @JeremyDBond
  • 2Ebooks Jul 18 @ 8:55 PM EDT
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    Mentorship & Gifted Youth via @IEAgifted https://t.co/pmY3YdRSNe #gtchat
  • OohShiny_Sarah Jul 18 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    #gtchat A6 I've never seen these done as part of a school program. Can someone recommend a study or somesuch?
  • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    RT @gtchatmod A6) GT HS students should be engaged in college-level pursuits with adequate supports to ensure success. #gtchat
  • MrBolding Jul 18 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    A6) Absolutley! Mentorships offer an op for our Ss to 👀 the larger part of the whole, the end game, why the work actually matters #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    See below! ;) #gtchat
    In reply to @OohShiny_Sarah
  • aemcburney Jul 18 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    #gtchat Speaking of GT, sorry I dropped away there. German Shepherd making me play fetch.
  • cathylw2 Jul 18 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    #gtchat...although, informal, in the moment, challenge initiated by a few grouped GT Ss amongst selves is the synergy congregating provides
    • cathylw2 Jul 18 @ 8:54 PM EDT
      #gtchat A5b: ... and yes, as a couple have said, being challenged by the task (sci olympics, math contest), not to compete with each other
      • cathylw2 Jul 18 @ 8:50 PM EDT
        #gtchat. A5: These can be one of a plethora of components of GT programming, but only for those eager or as opportunity after S/T talk.
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    We’re nearing the end of #gtchat today … final thoughts/takeaways? #gtchat
  • antraasa Jul 18 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    YES! #gtchat @CoppellHSBand @coppellchoir
  • aemcburney Jul 18 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    Check out Texas Performance Standards Project at https://t.co/v2KaHZM6Rh Provides a framework. All free. #gtchat
    In reply to @OohShiny_Sarah
  • MyTBP Jul 18 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    #gtchat I can't overstate the importance of social/emotional support with GT students of this age!
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    This #gtchat will be archived at @Storify & the link will be shared via @gtchatmod later today #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    More links & a summary of today’s chat will be posted on the #gtchat Blog at https://t.co/jUsAaBcS81 #gtchat
  • msheathervaughn Jul 18 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    It is a great resource! #gtchat
    In reply to @aemcburney, @OohShiny_Sarah
  • aemcburney Jul 18 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Awareness is still probably number 1. #gtchat
    In reply to @gtchatmod
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Fan of Facebook? LIKE to our #gtchat FB page at https://t.co/o1ic5dPHa0
  • giftedchlnges Jul 18 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Such an important topic. So many GT needs confused with achievement by HS staff - resulting in demoralized and underachieving kids #gtchat
  • gtchatmod - Moderator Jul 18 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    Thanks to the extraordinary #TAGT staff @TxGifted for their awesome support; we couldn’t do it without them! #gtchat