#PatinsIcam Archive

A weekly half hour chat focused on improving access to education for PK-12 students through the use of Accessible Educational Materials (AEM), Universal Design for Learning (UDL), and Assistive Technology (AT).

Tuesday January 15, 2019
8:30 PM EST

  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Welcome to tonight's chat! We are so glad you are here! IN educator? PGP cert link will be tweeted at the end! #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Tonight we're asking the question, "What would you do?" Student Case Studies #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Who's here and ready to chit chat tonight? Please introduce yourself. Don't forget to include #PatinsIcam with each tweet!
  • ksuding Jan 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Hi #PatinsIcam I am Kelli, currently a Specialist with @PATINSPROJECT of Autism, Specific Learning Disabilities, Chrome Accessibility, Accessible Ed Materials & Assistive Tech Integration.
  • katietaylorIN Jan 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Loggin' in from SouthSide Indy tonight! - Hello! {Deaf/hard of Hearing/Primary Transition PATINS Super Special Peep} #PatinsIcam
  • danielgmcnulty Jan 15 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Good Evening! Daniel here in Indiana. Director of @PATINSPROJECT, former SpEd Teacher, Behavior Therapist, A.T. Coordinator, and Paraprofessional! So happy to be here to chat! #PatinsIcam
  • ss4122 Jan 15 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Sandy Stabenfeldt is here! I'm the ICAM Digital Services Specialist. #PatinsIcam
  • JamieWithering2 Jan 15 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Jamie from Greenwood, Moderate/Significant Disabilities Teacher. #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:32 PM EST
    I'm Jena Fahlbush, PATINS Specialist, and I'll be happy host tonight! #PatinsIcam
  • jconradslp Jan 15 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Hi, Jessica, PATINS specialist and SLP, always happy to be part of a multidisciplinary team and hive mind! #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Jan 15 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Hi! Rachel Herron here from Franklin and the PATINS project! Ready to chat!! #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Jan 15 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Thanks for coming back @JamieWithering2 ! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @JamieWithering2, @JamieWithering2
  • RachelH872 Jan 15 @ 8:33 PM EST
    WELCOME JAMIE!!! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @JamieWithering2
  • JamieWithering2 Jan 15 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Thanks! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @katietaylorIN
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:33 PM EST
    We're definitely better together! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @jconradslp
  • NWingate5 Jan 15 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Nicole Wingate from MSD Bluffton-Harrison, SLP #patinsicam
  • BevSharritt Jan 15 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Hello case studiers. Bev from Pendleton. BLV specialist at #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Glad you could join us!! #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn Jan 15 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Julie Kuhn here from Lake Tiippecanoe in North Central Indiana! Always glad to talk about AEM. It is one our my passions!#PatinsIcam
  • jconti281 Jan 15 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Jen sprinting in just now! PATINS social media and SLP who has had her fair share of students who challenge me to get creative! #PatinsIcam
  • kellygrillo Jan 15 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Hi Kelly from Florida😉 #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Let's get this party started!! #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Jan 15 @ 8:34 PM EST
    I'm pondering "hive mind"...u have a visual? ha ha #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @jconradslp
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:34 PM EST
    I have a 2nd-grade student who isn't reading at grade level. Do we have to wait for our MTSS process or the special education evaluation to do anything? What can we do now? #PatinsIcam
  • ItzzName Jan 15 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Hi Kelly from Florida😉 #PatinsIcam
  • jconti281 Jan 15 @ 8:35 PM EST
    Always a party over here! #PatinsIcam
  • JamieWithering2 Jan 15 @ 8:35 PM EST
    I need ya to teach me how to use tweet deck! Fwwling lost! #PatinsIcam [Gif : Kermit looking at map]
    In reply to @RachelH872
  • jconradslp Jan 15 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A1: I don't think we need to wait to provide good instruction. #PatinsIcam
    • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:34 PM EST
      I have a 2nd-grade student who isn't reading at grade level. Do we have to wait for our MTSS process or the special education evaluation to do anything? What can we do now? #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Jan 15 @ 8:35 PM EST
    Welcome Kelly! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @kellygrillo
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:36 PM EST
    But you nailed the accessible gif! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @JamieWithering2, @RachelH872
  • mwhammond1 Jan 15 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Hi there, Martha here, ICAM DRM Services Specialist- Hi Daniel! #patinsicam
  • BevSharritt Jan 15 @ 8:36 PM EST
    If you're lost, but still describing your Gifs then you're winning #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @JamieWithering2, @RachelH872
  • RachelH872 Jan 15 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Woot Woot! Wingate in the house! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @NWingate5
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:37 PM EST
    We sure don't! That's what #UDL is all about, right @Ronbrogers & @BGentilleGreen? #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @jconradslp, @Ronbrogers, @BGentilleGreen
  • katietaylorIN Jan 15 @ 8:37 PM EST
    my thoughts exactly, Ms. Bev!! WTG, Jamie!!! Yahoo! #patinsicam
    In reply to @BevSharritt, @JamieWithering2, @RachelH872
  • RachelH872 Jan 15 @ 8:37 PM EST
    Welcome @itzzName! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @ItzzName, @ItzzName
  • ksuding Jan 15 @ 8:37 PM EST
    Accommodations for access will help this kiddo access grade level reading when decoding is the barrier and not comprehension #PatinsIcam
    • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:34 PM EST
      I have a 2nd-grade student who isn't reading at grade level. Do we have to wait for our MTSS process or the special education evaluation to do anything? What can we do now? #PatinsIcam
  • PATINSPROJECT Jan 15 @ 8:37 PM EST
    https://t.co/kUSm0ZuPDo. Then search #PatinsIcam and all the tweets will follow in a column!
    In reply to @JamieWithering2, @RachelH872
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A1: Make sure that student has access to grade level content as well as specific decoding instruction #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Jan 15 @ 8:38 PM EST
    THIS WEEK! Lets make it happen! You will have it in 5 minutes! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @JamieWithering2
  • mwhammond1 Jan 15 @ 8:38 PM EST
    Hi! Martha here, ICAM DRM Services Specialist #patinsicam
  • danielgmcnulty Jan 15 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A1: First...should be clear that MTSS does not equal SpEd Evaluation. Second, YES, strategies can/should definitely be implemented immediately! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @jlfahlbush
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:39 PM EST
    Q2: I have a preschool student, it's difficult to get them to focus on any one activity. I'm spending more time telling her to sit one spot for 2 minutes than teaching. #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn Jan 15 @ 8:39 PM EST
    My thought is always, "If you know what you need, then do it. You already have an answer." #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @ksuding
  • JamieWithering2 Jan 15 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A1: I wouldn't wait... I would do a modified schedule... have the student go to a Kindergarten or First grade Reading block. Meet kids where they are. #PatinsIcam
    • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:34 PM EST
      I have a 2nd-grade student who isn't reading at grade level. Do we have to wait for our MTSS process or the special education evaluation to do anything? What can we do now? #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:39 PM EST
    What are your go-to strategies? #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @danielgmcnulty
  • ksuding Jan 15 @ 8:40 PM EST
    Do we HAVE to SIT in one spot? #PatinsIcam
    • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:39 PM EST
      Q2: I have a preschool student, it's difficult to get them to focus on any one activity. I'm spending more time telling her to sit one spot for 2 minutes than teaching. #PatinsIcam
  • BevSharritt Jan 15 @ 8:40 PM EST
    2nd grade! transitioning to chapter books. . . getting many options for them that mesh with their interest. Such a crucial time to develop a positive attitude about reading. #PatinsIcam
    • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:34 PM EST
      I have a 2nd-grade student who isn't reading at grade level. Do we have to wait for our MTSS process or the special education evaluation to do anything? What can we do now? #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:41 PM EST
    Not in my classroom :) #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @ksuding
  • ss4122 Jan 15 @ 8:41 PM EST
    A1: It is never to early to see what accommodations or tools will benefit a student. Tools can be introduced that will benefit all students (UDL). #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @jlfahlbush
  • RachelH872 Jan 15 @ 8:41 PM EST
    Only if you do not want your apple to drop (yes..in first grade we had an apple tree...you never wanted your apple to drop. ). Some days I made apple sauce with it...#PatinsIcam
    In reply to @ksuding
  • JulieHKuhn Jan 15 @ 8:41 PM EST
    A2: Look at where they are developmentally, don't focus on sitting so much and decide what it is you want. Sitting or participation in the activity. #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Jan 15 @ 8:42 PM EST
    Right! Never mistake "sitting" for "engaging" #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @JulieHKuhn
  • danielgmcnulty Jan 15 @ 8:42 PM EST
    Text To Speech immediately! Then possibly uPAR to help confirm. #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @jlfahlbush
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:42 PM EST
    And ask yourself if your activity is engaging enough #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @JulieHKuhn
  • katietaylorIN Jan 15 @ 8:42 PM EST
    I always love a good OT suggestion!! #allthesensoryfun #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @JulieHKuhn
  • ksuding Jan 15 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A2: Take time to teach those Executive Functioning skills...students do not always come into school knowing the HOW...lack of one of many of those skills is often the barrier before anything else. #PatinsIcam
  • JamieWithering2 Jan 15 @ 8:43 PM EST
    VISUALS!! Visuals on your lanyard so you don't have to interrupt your teaching... visuals for where to sit... #visualseverywhere #PatinsIcam
    • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:39 PM EST
      Q2: I have a preschool student, it's difficult to get them to focus on any one activity. I'm spending more time telling her to sit one spot for 2 minutes than teaching. #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:43 PM EST
    Q3: I've got a middle school student who is VERY prompt dependent to get himself organized for school and has 0s for missing work. We talk about responsibility and show him how to organize, but it's not sticking. #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn Jan 15 @ 8:43 PM EST
    When we took time to read aloud a chapter book of interest to our children on a series of boat rides (aka leisure time), it ended up engaging them in reading! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @BevSharritt
  • danielgmcnulty Jan 15 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A2: Gut reaction...probably TOO much sitting for ALL the Ss at PreK level. Shorter bursts of sit (with active engagement) broken up by FREQUENT movement. #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:43 PM EST
    Preach it, sister! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @JamieWithering2
  • ss4122 Jan 15 @ 8:44 PM EST
    A2: Has the environment been investigated, seating etc? Could the student benefit from a "fidget" item? #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @jlfahlbush
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:44 PM EST
    Or flexible seating? #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @ss4122
  • JulieHKuhn Jan 15 @ 8:45 PM EST
    A3: Something I learned, years ago, was to ask the student "What next?" rather than give them directions. It makes a big difference in decreasing learned dependency. #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Jan 15 @ 8:45 PM EST
    I'm so glad you mentioned Prompt Dependency! One of the barriers that aren't often seen or recognized. #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @jlfahlbush
  • RachelH872 Jan 15 @ 8:46 PM EST
    Yes!! Teach-tos! Absolutely a necessity! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @ksuding
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:46 PM EST
    A3: Well, Jena ;), have you asked him what he thinks could be supportive? #PatinsIcam
  • jconti281 Jan 15 @ 8:47 PM EST
    A3: first look at your level of prompting. Are you giving opportunities where you pull away and discuss what they do well independently and what you're working towards? #PatinsIcam
  • JamieWithering2 Jan 15 @ 8:47 PM EST
    Visuals again but age appropriate... Color coded folders for each class... checklist for what they need... #usevisualsforeverything #PatinsIcam
    • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:43 PM EST
      Q3: I've got a middle school student who is VERY prompt dependent to get himself organized for school and has 0s for missing work. We talk about responsibility and show him how to organize, but it's not sticking. #PatinsIcam
  • katietaylorIN Jan 15 @ 8:47 PM EST
    Oh i like this! Also allows for the students to express their "choice" - maybe have multiple options for "what next" in UDL classroom. #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @JulieHKuhn
  • ksuding Jan 15 @ 8:48 PM EST
    A3: We reteach in different ways each time to facilitate that new skill of organization to stick & help them understand why. #PatinsIcam
    • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:43 PM EST
      Q3: I've got a middle school student who is VERY prompt dependent to get himself organized for school and has 0s for missing work. We talk about responsibility and show him how to organize, but it's not sticking. #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Jan 15 @ 8:48 PM EST
    As a person who organizes by color (clown vomit) I concur!! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @JamieWithering2
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:49 PM EST
    A3: I'd ask myself as the teacher if I was waiting long enough for the student to do what was asked. Had he learned prompt dependency b/c I wasn't patient enough? #PatinsIcam
  • JamieWithering2 Jan 15 @ 8:49 PM EST
    Each student and each adult in my classroom has a color!! #colorcodingismylife #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @RachelH872
  • RachelH872 Jan 15 @ 8:50 PM EST
    Wait time is HARD and NECESSARY #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @jlfahlbush
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:50 PM EST
    Q4: My team is working with a family who really needs to understand how to use the assistive technology we're trying in school, but I can't get buy-in. Any ideas? #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Jan 15 @ 8:50 PM EST
    THIS is why I like you! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @JamieWithering2
  • MissMelissa_TOD Jan 15 @ 8:50 PM EST
    Does she have to stay in one spot more than 2 minutes #patinsicam
    In reply to @jlfahlbush
  • ksuding Jan 15 @ 8:50 PM EST
    Also, making sure we are having HIGH expectations for ALL students #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @jlfahlbush
  • danielgmcnulty Jan 15 @ 8:50 PM EST
    A3: Prompt Dependency is 100% our fault as the instructors and an easy mistake to make. It's hard to not help right away! We repeat in the SAME way, but with SHAPING, gradually away from high prompt intensity & intrusiveness. #PatinsIcam
  • jconti281 Jan 15 @ 8:50 PM EST
    10 minutes left! keep the discussion going and be on the lookout for the first ever slow chat Q afterwards! #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn Jan 15 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Depending on if the student has processing issues, cognitive or motor, 5-15 seconds is a good range. Unless data shows otherwise. #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @RachelH872, @jlfahlbush
  • MissMelissa_TOD Jan 15 @ 8:51 PM EST
    RTI? #patinsIcam
    In reply to @jlfahlbush
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Welcome! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @MissMelissa_TOD
  • kellygrillo Jan 15 @ 8:51 PM EST
    A3: Complete a task analysis, reinforce behavior while monitoring EACH step & reward to automaticity its the basis of ABA #PatinsIcam
  • jconradslp Jan 15 @ 8:51 PM EST
    A4: instead of focusing on "wow, look what he can do for us!" focus on their attitudes and beliefs. What do they want to be able to do? What would make a difference for their family, what is their why? #PatinsIcam
  • JamieWithering2 Jan 15 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Depending on the AT does the company for that product provide in home training for parents?? Does school districts have an AT team?? Have u called @PATINSPROJECT yet?? #PatinsIcam
    • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:50 PM EST
      Q4: My team is working with a family who really needs to understand how to use the assistive technology we're trying in school, but I can't get buy-in. Any ideas? #PatinsIcam
  • danielgmcnulty Jan 15 @ 8:52 PM EST
    YES, and 15 seconds will feel like a year most times! That's HARD to do! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @JulieHKuhn, @RachelH872, @jlfahlbush
  • BevSharritt Jan 15 @ 8:52 PM EST
    Thanks for the prompt! Will the slow chat Q have a color? #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @jconti281
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:52 PM EST
    I love the glasses analogy! Would you take away a student's glasses and expect him or her to do the same work? #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Jan 15 @ 8:52 PM EST
    Hi! So glad you are here! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @MissMelissa_TOD, @jlfahlbush
  • JulieHKuhn Jan 15 @ 8:52 PM EST
    We think it is about us and our time reference. In fact, if we pay attention to the students, they will give us permission to back off and give them time to respond. #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @danielgmcnulty
  • ksuding Jan 15 @ 8:53 PM EST
    If uve told a S a 1000xs & they still don't get it, then it's not the S who is the slow learner #PatinsIcam
    • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:43 PM EST
      Q3: I've got a middle school student who is VERY prompt dependent to get himself organized for school and has 0s for missing work. We talk about responsibility and show him how to organize, but it's not sticking. #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:53 PM EST
    I wish I could like this 1000 times! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @JamieWithering2, @PATINSPROJECT
  • RachelH872 Jan 15 @ 8:53 PM EST
    Truth! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @ksuding
  • danielgmcnulty Jan 15 @ 8:54 PM EST
    A4: I'd probably invite family into my classroom and/or take & send LOTS of video samples to family. Ss learning it differently at home, than what I'm doing in class turns into to DIFFERENT tasks! #PatinsIcam
  • jconradslp Jan 15 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Any why is he getting 0s on work? What are Ts measuring? His ability to write or his ability to turn it in? #PatinsIcam
    • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:43 PM EST
      Q3: I've got a middle school student who is VERY prompt dependent to get himself organized for school and has 0s for missing work. We talk about responsibility and show him how to organize, but it's not sticking. #PatinsIcam
  • katietaylorIN Jan 15 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Sometimes its all about what we dont know. Meeting the family where they are, having them see what it does first hand, showing the possible benefit and where it could take the student. #PatinsIcam
    • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:50 PM EST
      Q4: My team is working with a family who really needs to understand how to use the assistive technology we're trying in school, but I can't get buy-in. Any ideas? #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn Jan 15 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Truely, it is not about us. Some students with Retts will need more time. Can we allow this for them? #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @danielgmcnulty, @RachelH872, @jlfahlbush
  • MissMelissa_TOD Jan 15 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Parents do the best they can at the time. Instead of trying to change them, figure out WHY this is the best they can do right now #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @jlfahlbush
  • RachelH872 Jan 15 @ 8:55 PM EST
    Preach! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @jconradslp
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:55 PM EST
    But, Jessica, doesn't homework have to be turned in on time? #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @jconradslp
  • jconti281 Jan 15 @ 8:55 PM EST
    @jconradslp asking the hard hitting Qs! #PatinsIcam
    • jconradslp Jan 15 @ 8:54 PM EST
      Any why is he getting 0s on work? What are Ts measuring? His ability to write or his ability to turn it in? #PatinsIcam
      • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:43 PM EST
        Q3: I've got a middle school student who is VERY prompt dependent to get himself organized for school and has 0s for missing work. We talk about responsibility and show him how to organize, but it's not sticking. #PatinsIcam
  • NWingate5 Jan 15 @ 8:55 PM EST
    A4: Has the family witnessed the student's success? Send them videos and keep communication open. #patinsicam
  • RachelH872 Jan 15 @ 8:55 PM EST
    Great point! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @MissMelissa_TOD, @jlfahlbush
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:56 PM EST
    Oh man! Figuring out the why behind the parents, too! Now there's an idea! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @MissMelissa_TOD
  • danielgmcnulty Jan 15 @ 8:56 PM EST
    ...only if we're measuring latency! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @jlfahlbush, @jconradslp
  • RachelH872 Jan 15 @ 8:56 PM EST
    This can be SO eye opening for people!! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @NWingate5
  • BevSharritt Jan 15 @ 8:56 PM EST
    using tech in this way could really be a game-changer with families #PatinsIcam I love all videos of my kids!
    In reply to @NWingate5
  • JulieHKuhn Jan 15 @ 8:56 PM EST
    A4: AT is not a one shot deal. It is complicated and involves steps. One cannot just provide a "thing" and expect expertise. Training and support is needed for all stakeholders. #PatinsIcam
  • katietaylorIN Jan 15 @ 8:56 PM EST
    why I always love to do some good reflection with a colleague... sometimes its us and its a good thing to try new things #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @ksuding
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:56 PM EST
    This can be tremendously enlightening & empowering #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @NWingate5
  • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:57 PM EST
    Q5: I have a 4th grader who had "No Mode of Communication" on the last state assessment. She doesn't appear to communicate anything right now. Do I even try to jump into AAC, or should we try cause and effect activities first? #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Jan 15 @ 8:57 PM EST
    As @joyzabala would say instead of "buy-in"...she likes "engage." Parents need to know the why, how and see the benefits #PatinsIcam
    • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:50 PM EST
      Q4: My team is working with a family who really needs to understand how to use the assistive technology we're trying in school, but I can't get buy-in. Any ideas? #PatinsIcam
  • MissMelissa_TOD Jan 15 @ 8:57 PM EST
    Depends on the child, the IEP and why #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @jlfahlbush, @jconradslp
  • jconradslp Jan 15 @ 8:57 PM EST
    That's a different skill, should be measured and have a true natural consequence. Failing math on organization merit isn't natural, it's cruel. I freely admit I've turned in things late at work, no pay docked, I get other natural consequences. #PatinsIcam
    • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:55 PM EST
      But, Jessica, doesn't homework have to be turned in on time? #PatinsIcam
      In reply to @jconradslp
  • JamieWithering2 Jan 15 @ 8:58 PM EST
    Ok I don't have an answer for this... this is where I'm at and what I need help with... #PatinsIcam
    • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:57 PM EST
      Q5: I have a 4th grader who had "No Mode of Communication" on the last state assessment. She doesn't appear to communicate anything right now. Do I even try to jump into AAC, or should we try cause and effect activities first? #PatinsIcam
  • katietaylorIN Jan 15 @ 8:58 PM EST
    sending love to all the mommas and dads! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @MissMelissa_TOD, @jlfahlbush
  • danielgmcnulty Jan 15 @ 8:59 PM EST
    A5: This Student MOST likely IS communicating already! ...perhaps not in the way WE prefer. Identifying that com., and then shaping it gradually. I'd jump straight to varying levels of AAC myself, collecting data and video samples along the way! #PatinsIcam
  • jconradslp Jan 15 @ 8:59 PM EST
    There is NO "need cause and effect" prerequisite for AAC. Accessible language is vital for all humans, starting as newborns. Do not wait, they've waited long enough. It will look different for every student #PatinsIcam
    • jlfahlbush Jan 15 @ 8:57 PM EST
      Q5: I have a 4th grader who had "No Mode of Communication" on the last state assessment. She doesn't appear to communicate anything right now. Do I even try to jump into AAC, or should we try cause and effect activities first? #PatinsIcam