#HipHopEd Chat is a weekly cyber cypher (chat) where stakeholders within Hip-Hop and Education come together to discuss issues that impact the youth and adults within our local, national and global communities. #HipHopEd Chat is a virtual form of professional development for Educators, workshop for Parents and other Adults and a brainstorming session of Hip-Hop practitioners. Our #HipHopEd chats are every Tuesday from 9-10 EST. on Twitter.
If you have read the book and or seen the movie #TheHateUGive you can share your thoughts and even if you haven't you can speak to the ideology of ThugLife by Tupac then and now in our communities #HipHopEd
If you have read the book and or seen the movie #TheHateUGive you can share your thoughts and even if you haven't you can speak to the ideology of ThugLife by Tupac then and now in our communities #HipHopEd
If you have read the book and or seen the movie #TheHateUGive you can share your thoughts and even if you haven't you can speak to the ideology of ThugLife by Tupac then and now in our communities #HipHopEd
I watched the movie and now I am reading the book. There are some differences between the two that seem to be intentional in watering down some points and overlooking others #TheHateUGive#HipHopEd
Growing up in the good will require men to give up #ThugLife and be about that political life for the next generation(s) to have better lives. #HipHopEd
This would depend on how we collective define what being a Thug means. Some may say the way that we break barriers that exist to keep us down takes a level of thug #HipHopEd
havent seen it in 15 yrs, but remember it vividly... Shock G explaining differences in where Nas, Big + Pac rap from; someone (Quincy Jones?) pointing out that if Malcolm X died at the age Tupac did, he still would have been Detroit Red; vintage footage of Pac as a teen #HipHopEd
The notion of "Thug Life" according to Tupac has been taken out of context with an emphasis on "Thug" and defining it by reinforcing stereotypes that continually work to hold us back #HipHopEd
Thinking about curriculum as we read as a class and we created writing prompts along the way. Marvin Gaye is referenced so my students listened to “What’s Goin On” and then we wrote “What’s goin on” in our lives as a freewrite. #HipHopEd
#HipHopEd you can go to @BazanEDucation to get access to a curriculum that can be used to engage your students around the book and the movie #TheHateUGive
Thinking about curriculum as we read as a class and we created writing prompts along the way. Marvin Gaye is referenced so my students listened to “What’s Goin On” and then we wrote “What’s goin on” in our lives as a freewrite. #HipHopEd
Pac's brother Mopreme talks about what he meant by "thug life", what a thug is and the disenfranchisement of people living and trying to survive in the hood. The "Have Nots"... https://t.co/DEoZOCDNQe#hiphoped
The Hate U Give
Limits Insights From Education
Limits Insights From Entertainment
Limits Insights From Enforcement
Limits Insights from Environments
Thug Life Reimagined
#HipHopEd
when i was director of @AS220Youth we used to talk about our philosophy as “Hug Life”
which represented the positive pieces of 'Thug Life' Tupac describes without the ‘bad part’ he alludes to
#HipHopEd
I have seen educators who take a small infractions by students and act as if they did something so horrible, as if they are making them waste precious time to deal with them. Rather than finding teachable moments, they are finding reasons to punish students #HipHopEd
Pac's brother Mopreme talks about what he meant by "thug life", what a thug is and the disenfranchisement of people living and trying to survive in the hood. The "Have Nots"... https://t.co/DEoZOCDNQe#hiphoped
The Hate U Give
Limits Insights From Education
Limits Insights From Entertainment
Limits Insights From Enforcement
Limits Insights from Environments
Thug Life Reimagined
#HipHopEd - @tdj6899
Thinking of #2Pac#THUGLIFE & #justice I go back to a program @thebeatwithin In 96' after Pac got killed they had a convo with incarcerated youth about what this meant to them It started something special in the Bay Area that 20 years later is still going strong #HipHopED
In reply to
@TheRealHipHopEd, @mathsmarti, @ajkatzart, @Learn21Tech, @accordin2jo, @JonBalcerak, @aejohnsonphd, @TheTishJones, @TheJLV, @gjladson, @Asheru, @thebeatwithin
One key difference in the book and the movie is that in the book Khalil doesn't reach and grab a hairbrush when he is shot. I think to have this in the movie creates sympathy for the officer and taints the outrage #StayWoke#HipHopEd
Thinking of #2Pac#THUGLIFE & #justice I go back to a program @thebeatwithin In 96' after Pac got killed they had a convo with incarcerated youth about what this meant to them It started something special in the Bay Area that 20 years later is still going strong #HipHopED
In reply to
@TheRealHipHopEd, @mathsmarti, @ajkatzart, @Learn21Tech, @accordin2jo, @JonBalcerak, @aejohnsonphd, @TheTishJones, @TheJLV, @gjladson, @Asheru, @thebeatwithin
Hi Tim! A handful of our teachers & admin went to see a screening of it a few weeks back. Excellent! I’ll be taking my Race in America class to watch the film next week. #HipHopEd
Last year at @YALLFest in Charleston @angiecthomas talked about her book #TheHateYouGive. She wanted to write a book about a character she never got to see/read about in books as a kid, someone like her (not an exact quote) #HipHopEd
Hey, you made it during the chat :) I'm reading the book now so that I can participate in book discussions and activities with students in different places and spaces (hint) #HipHopEd
I read(? listened to) the audiobook and was riveted haven't seen the movie. I heard an interesting critique of the *movie* and others as "blaxplaining" and I'd love to know if any other #HipHopEd folx heard it, opinions? -- We Blaxplain Blaxplaining https://t.co/Rd59xc4R4P
I watched the movie and now I am reading the book. There are some differences between the two that seem to be intentional in watering down some points and overlooking others #TheHateUGive#HipHopEd
As Educators we have the ability and responsibility to use a piece of art as a spark to ignite the minds and spirits of our students to address the particular realities in our communities #HipHopEd#TheHateUGive
I read(? listened to) the audiobook and was riveted haven't seen the movie. I heard an interesting critique of the *movie* and others as "blaxplaining" and I'd love to know if any other #HipHopEd folx heard it, opinions? -- We Blaxplain Blaxplaining https://t.co/Rd59xc4R4P
I watched the movie and now I am reading the book. There are some differences between the two that seem to be intentional in watering down some points and overlooking others #TheHateUGive#HipHopEd
Havent watched or read it yet but will do so soon to participate in PTSA sponsored convo. Im enjoying the insights tonight on #HipHopEd as my activator.
There is always a conversation around how the victim must've done something for the officer to shoot, and there are too many who are unwilling to entertain the notion that race is a factor. Just that small change to the story fuels that conversation. #HipHopEd
@tdj6899 Great point! It’s all in the context. Students don’t have to lose their identity or their edge in order to strive to create better political or social ground. They do however have to continue to grow.
From the casting*side eye* to the ending *side eye* to the gang storyline (some of which was very unrealistic and rooted in classism/lack of knowledge of gang structures) to the disconnects between the book and the film, I found the film to be incredibly problematic #hiphoped
Check out The Beat Within at https://t.co/cxegVhA1kg A publication of writing & art from the inside https://t.co/1utpCXEwzr
"Quick to smile / juvenile / was a problem child / Try to put me in the cross / but my force was wild..." #2Pac#HipHopED
In reply to
@TheRealHipHopEd, @mathsmarti, @ajkatzart, @Learn21Tech, @accordin2jo, @JonBalcerak, @aejohnsonphd, @TheTishJones, @TheJLV, @gjladson, @Asheru, @thebeatwithin
I'm reading the book after watching the film and I already agree with you and I'm only in chapter 7. There has been a stripping of some cultural relevance from the book to the film #HipHopEd
I purposely purchased a book that had the original girl on the cover. Then I made sure it was visible as I boarded planes to read it. #TheHateUGive#HipHopEd
“It's this very effective way of suggesting that the people who are doing the rioting and who are being called thugs don't actually have a right to their outrage,"... #HipHopEd
The #ThugLife that goes unseen is the family side, with wives, children, parents the protectors of the block. That is something I have come to see in LA
Someone from the outside let in.
#HipHopEd
My other issues->
Hyper focus on shaping the drug dealer +gangs as the villains
Insertion of problematic ish re: "Black-on-Black" crime all while washing over the cop & his actions
Ignoring the fact that the US gov WAS resp. for pushing dope into our hoods #TheHateUGive#hiphoped
It's interesting how a word can evolve to mean similar but very different things at different times to different people. We present "thugs" as people who act without cause or higher purpose #HipHopEd
The #ThugLife that goes unseen is the family side, with wives, children, parents the protectors of the block. That is something I have come to see in LA
Someone from the outside let in.
#HipHopEd
Another great book dealing with TuPac is by @JackieWoodson After Tupac and D Foster https://t.co/PChW9Vx6iY#HipHopEd The girls in the book are growing up in the time when Tupac is on trial, and have to experience the loss of Tupac and his music after his death.
The touched on the infiltration of drugs so quickly that it is quickly lost and the greater criminal in the film once again is the brother man and not the other man #HipHopEd
But that’s to be expected. Films rarely capture the same unique detail as the books in which they’re based upon. Hence the importance of reading. When we’re reading the words, we’re simultaneously embodying the experience. #HipHopEd
I get that you can only fit so much into a film, but this film, like many others, reinforces govt propaganda and racist depictions of those living in less than favorable socioeconomic conditions and the racist policies (rooted in white sup) that shaped said environments #HipHopEd
@JackieWoodson says she wrote the book because: "I think Tupac was an amazing activist and I wanted to create a story around his story. The more I wrote, the more there was to say – about Tupac and about the girls" https://t.co/PChW9Vx6iY#HipHopEd
The touched on the infiltration of drugs so quickly that it is quickly lost and the greater criminal in the film once again is the brother man and not the other man #HipHopEd
This cannot be dismissed. The original art work looks like my daughter and so many other young children that I have been blessed to work with over the years #HipHopEd
Powerful Statement! We have the responsibility of using our platform and voice to liberate our communities. How will you use your art? #HipHopEd#GOODChat505
As Educators we have the ability and responsibility to use a piece of art as a spark to ignite the minds and spirits of our students to address the particular realities in our communities #HipHopEd#TheHateUGive
So do you think these changes were in the same vein as "things movie makers do to books' storylines" or do you think this was "making black experiences more palatable to white audiences"? (from podcast https://t.co/Rd59xc4R4P ) #HipHopEd
I have collected cheerleading dues from cold gangsters. #ThugLife is real! Family is real. #HipHopEd I have also seen a semiautomatic pulled out at a game, and OG's remove the "Man" to protect the kids.... He was fresh out of jail and about that #ThugLife
As you read #TheHateUGive have your students identify the systems that created the ecosystem where the hatred was able to be planted, watered and cultivated. Then develop strategies to address these systems in their communities #HipHopEd
Just a shout out to #HipHopEd
still quietly tuned in, soaking up the good game y’all spittin.
Big s/o @tdj6899, the #culturefix crew @NatalieCrue@norarahimian , and everybody else in the chat.
Keep shining the light.
As you read #TheHateUGive have your students identify the systems that created the ecosystem where the hatred was able to be planted, watered and cultivated. Then develop strategies to address these systems in their communities #HipHopEd
#Hiphoped Reminder, there are three different editions of #thehateugive. I have all three.
The Original, The Collectors, and Movie tie-in editions
The Hate U Give Collector's Edition by Angie Thomas https://t.co/isJ0V2KeUp
I am who I am in part because I was protected and directed by Thugs who saw something in me and challenged me to represent the best of them to the rest of the world #BrooklynStandUp#HipHopEd
Just a shout out to #HipHopEd
still quietly tuned in, soaking up the good game y’all spittin.
Big s/o @tdj6899, the #culturefix crew @NatalieCrue@norarahimian , and everybody else in the chat.
Keep shining the light.
I’ve been teaching so I missed tonight’s #HipHopEd chat, but I AM INFINITELY THANKFUL to see comments about the dissonance between #TheHateUGive in the film version vs the text— the colorism, the rewriting of Khalil’s murder to “give” the cop a reason. We need to discuss THAT.
