#DevDiscuss Archive
Tuesday December 6, 2016
9:00 PM EST
ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:04 PM EST
The ninth
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is starting now This week's topic: Full-stack development
ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:04 PM EST
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JakeWengroff
Dec 6 @ 9:05 PM EST
Drats, I missed the chance to vote on tonight's
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topic.
ThePracticalDev
Dec 5 @ 8:58 PM EST
Time to vote on the topic of tomorrow's
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804obsidianstar
Dec 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
Tune-in time. Two dope chats on deck.
#hiphoped
and
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Btw, I'm diggin these chat tips below. Let's go!
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:04 PM EST
Rules: - Stay on topic - ALWAYS use the hashtag
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- Be NICE/POSITIVE ❤️ - Quoting other tweets for clarity is encouraged
ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
What does the idea of "full-stack" development mean to you? Are you a full-stack developer?
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DevDiscussHQ
Dec 6 @ 9:12 PM EST
remember to use
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Dec 6 @ 9:12 PM EST
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dev_vine
Dec 6 @ 9:12 PM EST
Used to be dealing w/ both client side & server side. Lines have blurred quite a bit now.
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EntirelyAmelia
Dec 6 @ 9:13 PM EST
At my last job, full-stack meant web client, middleware, backend application, database. These days, I stick with backend only
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
What does the idea of "full-stack" development mean to you? Are you a full-stack developer?
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Nick_Craver
Dec 6 @ 9:13 PM EST
Browser, JavaScript, CDN, Load Balancers, Web, Servers (OS), Database, Networking, and performance of all the things in-between.
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
What does the idea of "full-stack" development mean to you? Are you a full-stack developer?
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ohcodinglady
Dec 6 @ 9:13 PM EST
A fullstack dev can work on all aspects of web development. I'm front-end right now but studying to go fullstack!
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
What does the idea of "full-stack" development mean to you? Are you a full-stack developer?
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yechielk
Dec 6 @ 9:13 PM EST
I thought that's what all devs do... :/
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FxLowe
Dec 6 @ 9:11 PM EST
Full-stack developers are just developers who google.
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ClayBagel
Dec 6 @ 9:14 PM EST
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Buzz term in the industry. Demand is high but very few can do it effectively.
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PBeekums
Dec 6 @ 9:14 PM EST
Full stack is someone who can deliver software without "handing it off" to someone else.
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_erozas
Dec 6 @ 9:15 PM EST
designers who can somehow render stuff to the browser and back-end devs that can modifiy Bootstrap.
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bendhalpern
Dec 6 @ 9:15 PM EST
I had to become a full-stack developer because the only job I've ever had was "startup CTO"
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
What does the idea of "full-stack" development mean to you? Are you a full-stack developer?
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Nick_Craver
Dec 6 @ 9:15 PM EST
@ThePracticalDev
Put another way: full stack means I could hand you *any* problem with our infrastructure, and you can solve it.
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JackScottAU
Dec 6 @ 9:17 PM EST
Most people who call themselves fullstack developers aren't even aware of half the layers that are in the stack
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pakito555
Dec 6 @ 9:17 PM EST
A good grip on all subjects to develop, deploy and mantain software.
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
What does the idea of "full-stack" development mean to you? Are you a full-stack developer?
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seahcy
Dec 6 @ 9:17 PM EST
full stack developers are ones that are able to add technical debt to every layer of the stack
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JakeWengroff
Dec 6 @ 9:17 PM EST
But does full-stack even exist? Can anyone do it all? I don't think so.
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Austin_Jay49
Dec 6 @ 9:18 PM EST
as a novice in learning it means knowing multiple technologies and languages to go from several to client
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darby3
Dec 6 @ 9:18 PM EST
I figure I’ve been lucky enough to figure out most of what I’ve needed along the way. Call it what you will.
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bendhalpern
Dec 6 @ 9:18 PM EST
I think I'm too curious to be anything besides full-stack, but I find front-end development pretty tedious most of the time
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jxpx777
Dec 6 @ 9:18 PM EST
Full stack to me means being ready to learn on the fly. You might know some stuff but you won’t know everything ahead of time.
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MightyPupil
Dec 6 @ 9:19 PM EST
transistors to gates to cpus to firmware to oses to drivers to software
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JakeWengroff
Dec 6 @ 9:19 PM EST
I believe that
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JackScottAU
Dec 6 @ 9:17 PM EST
Most people who call themselves fullstack developers aren't even aware of half the layers that are in the stack
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bendhalpern
Dec 6 @ 9:20 PM EST
Obviously "full stack" limits itself to a certain domain. There are so many subsets of computing, nobody knows it all
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JakeWengroff
Dec 6 @ 9:20 PM EST
Thrown to the wolves, I suppose. No better way to learn!
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bendhalpern
Dec 6 @ 9:15 PM EST
I had to become a full-stack developer because the only job I've ever had was "startup CTO"
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
What does the idea of "full-stack" development mean to you? Are you a full-stack developer?
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iSands
Dec 6 @ 9:20 PM EST
HR folks hiring developers don't have a clue of what is it that they should be looking for. Self-taught is not good for HR.
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ThePracticalDev
Nov 29 @ 9:38 PM EST
What stigmas or perceptions are there around the various code education paths? How accurate are they?
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rasputinjs
Dec 6 @ 9:20 PM EST
hey now, sometimes I use PureCSS cause Bootstrap is hard
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In reply to @_erozas, @ThePracticalDev
gdavis92
Dec 6 @ 9:21 PM EST
Every time I've heard the term, "full-stack" meant front/backend. The broader definition is mostly from articles.
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justAfanDavid
Dec 6 @ 9:21 PM EST
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doing any & all coding needed to finish the task at hand...regardless of what it was or involved
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tabinfl
Dec 6 @ 9:21 PM EST
Full-stack developer is the one on the dev team who didn't get downsized & now has to do all the jobs.
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stevedesmond_ca
Dec 6 @ 9:22 PM EST
Most people these days would call the second half of those "ops"/"SRE", but I agree that they should be part of "full-stack"
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Nick_Craver
Dec 6 @ 9:13 PM EST
Browser, JavaScript, CDN, Load Balancers, Web, Servers (OS), Database, Networking, and performance of all the things in-between.
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
What does the idea of "full-stack" development mean to you? Are you a full-stack developer?
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strizhechenko
Dec 6 @ 9:22 PM EST
And hardware choice too.
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Nick_Craver
Dec 6 @ 9:13 PM EST
Browser, JavaScript, CDN, Load Balancers, Web, Servers (OS), Database, Networking, and performance of all the things in-between.
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
What does the idea of "full-stack" development mean to you? Are you a full-stack developer?
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kylewelch
Dec 6 @ 9:22 PM EST
I would say it is more difficult to be tier specific since it means more communication and less control
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gdavis92
Dec 6 @ 9:22 PM EST
Do you mean that devs should have formal, certified education a/o documentation?
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MD_Morrison
Dec 6 @ 9:22 PM EST
FEs who write some Node or BEs who think "it's just the front end."
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
What does the idea of "full-stack" development mean to you? Are you a full-stack developer?
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JakeWengroff
Dec 6 @ 9:23 PM EST
I also think full-stack is a catch-all word ppl can use to make themselves more employable - and there is nothing wrong w/ that
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erinmorrissey
Dec 6 @ 9:23 PM EST
Agreed, my curiosity makes me want to be full-stack capable, though the # of layers to know gets overwhelming
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Nick_Craver
Dec 6 @ 9:23 PM EST
While I’m very heavily involved in our hardware as well, I disagree it's generally thought of as developer :)
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kylewelch
Dec 6 @ 9:24 PM EST
completely agree about front end. I do the most in JS but of all the things I have done it is the most frustrating
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3leftturns
Dec 6 @ 9:24 PM EST
Full stack means I know Java very well but can do enough JS/
@angularjs
to keep my job.
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JakeWengroff
Dec 6 @ 9:24 PM EST
Ha, good one!
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tabinfl
Dec 6 @ 9:21 PM EST
Full-stack developer is the one on the dev team who didn't get downsized & now has to do all the jobs.
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KamSalisbury
Dec 6 @ 9:25 PM EST
from GUI to output and backup. No, I am output and backup most of the time
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faizmokh
Dec 6 @ 9:25 PM EST
Front-end, back-end and a some understanding in devops. Just enough to actually ship it. 🛳
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
What does the idea of "full-stack" development mean to you? Are you a full-stack developer?
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bendhalpern
Dec 6 @ 9:26 PM EST
Full stack within a company that can comfortably run on a few Heroku dynos is different than a company with big infra concerns
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rasputinjs
Dec 6 @ 9:26 PM EST
someone who knows javascript
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bendhalpern
Dec 6 @ 9:27 PM EST
Because "full stack" can mean so much, like many industry terms, it also tends to mean very little
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dev_vine
Dec 6 @ 9:27 PM EST
full-stack dev is a tall order...
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lucus_patrick
Dec 6 @ 9:27 PM EST
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@ThePracticalDev
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‘full-stack’ jack of all trades master of none
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
What does the idea of "full-stack" development mean to you? Are you a full-stack developer?
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gdavis92
Dec 6 @ 9:27 PM EST
Yes! Case in point, this
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lucus_patrick
Dec 6 @ 9:27 PM EST
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@ThePracticalDev
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‘full-stack’ typical winner of buzz-word bingo
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
What does the idea of "full-stack" development mean to you? Are you a full-stack developer?
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rasputinjs
Dec 6 @ 9:29 PM EST
this. Used to be like 'TIME TO MAKE STUFF PRETTY' now it's like 'okay time to feel bad about my design skills'
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james_collado
Dec 6 @ 9:29 PM EST
"impossible", "nobody can know the full stack", "self called full-stack devs don't even know what half the levels are"...
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Nick_Craver
Dec 6 @ 9:29 PM EST
Well-versed; not master. Aim for master at some though, e.g. my focus is performance, when able.
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gumnos
Dec 6 @ 9:29 PM EST
1/ "Full Stack" = some skill with • webserver • database • backend • HTTP/WebSockets • HTML • CSS • JavaScript
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j_c_fitz
Dec 6 @ 9:30 PM EST
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to me, full-stack includes doing/understanding your own dev-ops. No crutches like Heroku.
kylewelch
Dec 6 @ 9:30 PM EST
I have always thought of full stack as: if given a feature, dev should be able to take it to completion solely.
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gumnos
Dec 6 @ 9:31 PM EST
2/ The knowledge bell-curve centers higher or lower, but at least shows a working understanding across it all.
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bendhalpern
Dec 6 @ 9:31 PM EST
Having a pretty good understanding of latency concerns and CDN choices has helped me be a better front end developer
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3leftturns
Dec 6 @ 9:31 PM EST
@ThePracticalDev
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full stack is a myth - because you get siloed into front or back every day. Not always both.
Nick_Craver
Dec 6 @ 9:33 PM EST
For all things, can you…: -Tell me why they’re there? -…or why they shouldn’t be? -Make them better? -Fix them?
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gumnos
Dec 6 @ 9:34 PM EST
3/ At the metal end 🤘, there might also be OS/Ops skills, and at the other end, design/typography/UI/UX skills.
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CaseyReedDev
Dec 6 @ 9:34 PM EST
Understanding the fundamental concepts across all of dev and using the knowledge of one to affect building the others
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
What does the idea of "full-stack" development mean to you? Are you a full-stack developer?
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gabro27
Dec 6 @ 9:34 PM EST
A developer that hasn't yet decided what they like the most, like myself
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
What does the idea of "full-stack" development mean to you? Are you a full-stack developer?
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kellyjandrews
Dec 6 @ 9:35 PM EST
Depends on how much of the stack you are talking about. Most consider this front/back. But that's a fraction.
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
What does the idea of "full-stack" development mean to you? Are you a full-stack developer?
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j_c_fitz
Dec 6 @ 9:35 PM EST
I think any individual or company that claims to be "full-stack" should be able to admin the iron
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Austin_Jay49
Dec 6 @ 9:35 PM EST
means master of none. Usually doesn't meet "best practice" and is more functional and completion oriented.
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3leftturns
Dec 6 @ 9:36 PM EST
I just don't know a lot of folk that code on the entire application.
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gumnos
Dec 6 @ 9:36 PM EST
Yes, some do it all—but the proficiency usually centers on some skills, with less proficiency at the extremes.
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j_c_fitz
Dec 6 @ 9:38 PM EST
based on personal experience, something will come up that is hard/impossible to diagnose.
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anthonycook
Dec 6 @ 9:39 PM EST
Nowadays full stack development is as simple as building a rest API and letting a view library like React/Vue do the rest.
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gumnos
Dec 6 @ 9:39 PM EST
Though grokking the core concepts (HTTP, SSL/TLS, SQL, etc), helps when tech shifts (Rails→Django; VanillaJS→Angular;…)
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bryanaglenn
Dec 6 @ 9:39 PM EST
That never happens in software! Fair point. Always trade-offs.
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mguarascio
Dec 6 @ 9:39 PM EST
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I tend to think of full stack skills meaning "T-shaped"
https://t.co/dgiINAehl3
gdavis92
Dec 6 @ 9:40 PM EST
ugh I know the feeling, and I'm just frontend
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Nick_Craver
Dec 6 @ 9:40 PM EST
Fair enough; I agree it’s rare (anecdotally). I’d love to hire for it, but it seems so hard.
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bendhalpern
Dec 6 @ 9:40 PM EST
No need to be expert, but I think it's important to develop a technical empathy for those who work on all layers of the stack
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TonyTalksTech
Dec 6 @ 9:40 PM EST
major props for inclusion of "system engineering" items: servers, OS, and networking.
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gumnos
Dec 6 @ 9:41 PM EST
Hey, some of us devs cut our teeth doing x86 & 6502 assembly language. We know how deep that rabbit-hole goes. 😉
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gumnos
Dec 6 @ 9:42 PM EST
"Jack of all trades, master of some"
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TonyTalksTech
Dec 6 @ 9:43 PM EST
I measure a dev's full-stackity by them being able to debug every part of a request. Browser to hardware.
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uxstephen
Dec 6 @ 9:44 PM EST
When people say "full-stack" they usually underemphasize visual design concerns but that part is critical to me
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HaktanSuren
Dec 6 @ 9:44 PM EST
I want to hire someone who can solve all the problems so i know who to blame if something messes up
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CaseyReedDev
Dec 6 @ 9:44 PM EST
Agreed! Nobody will be an expert on everything, but you should be able to understand the ripples of a decision across stacks
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bendhalpern
Dec 6 @ 9:40 PM EST
No need to be expert, but I think it's important to develop a technical empathy for those who work on all layers of the stack
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:44 PM EST
What's a programming domain other than your greatest expertise that you want to become more proficient in?
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3leftturns
Dec 6 @ 9:44 PM EST
for me to consider myself "full stack" I'd need to drop 5k on a bootcamp and dive in hard on JS.
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TonyTalksTech
Dec 6 @ 9:45 PM EST
beyond debugging, I care about if a dev understands how to release to prod and repercussions.
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anthonycook
Dec 6 @ 9:45 PM EST
Nowadays full stack development is as simple as building a REST API and letting a view library like React/Vue do the rest.
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
What does the idea of "full-stack" development mean to you? Are you a full-stack developer?
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yechielk
Dec 6 @ 9:45 PM EST
Thumbs-up for full-stackity :D
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TonyTalksTech
Dec 6 @ 9:45 PM EST
I'm not fully there yet. Bad at some harder networking problems, but still improving.
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JTRinOR
Dec 6 @ 9:45 PM EST
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@ThePracticalDev
Full stack dark side is overclaiming knowledge. Full stack light side is being able to pitch in where needed.
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kevdog
Dec 6 @ 9:46 PM EST
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CSS Animation
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TheLarkInn
Dec 6 @ 9:46 PM EST
@ThePracticalDev
ugh I want so badly to have more time to dive into V8, compilers, and wrap it in some Machine Learning.
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:44 PM EST
What's a programming domain other than your greatest expertise that you want to become more proficient in?
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kylewelch
Dec 6 @ 9:46 PM EST
I am so use to interfacing with the user. I would love to work more with hardware. Very interested in IoT
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codersplzaccept
Dec 6 @ 9:46 PM EST
"Full stack" means that I need to spend an extra five minutes stroking the candidate's ego during the phone screen
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
What does the idea of "full-stack" development mean to you? Are you a full-stack developer?
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gumnos
Dec 6 @ 9:47 PM EST
From hardware and OS install CDs/USB/PXE to green lock in chrome. 😉
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tryangls
Dec 6 @ 9:47 PM EST
Purely functional programming. Some level of Haskell mastery ideally.
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justAfanDavid
Dec 6 @ 9:47 PM EST
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adaptability. The industry & technology is always changing....
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mguarascio
Dec 6 @ 9:48 PM EST
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I enjoy full stack development more than specializing. Not understanding the whole picture can be dangerous.
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MicroHex
Dec 6 @ 9:48 PM EST
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Some people forget that if your code can't brick the underlying hardware, you haven't quite gotten through all the stack layers.
stevedesmond_ca
Dec 6 @ 9:48 PM EST
Fancy front-end frameworks and fancy functional languages, basically all the hipster buzzword hotness these days
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:44 PM EST
What's a programming domain other than your greatest expertise that you want to become more proficient in?
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j_c_fitz
Dec 6 @ 9:48 PM EST
I'm ok with managed virtual servers like Liquid Web, but be able to take the wheel if you need to.
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kylewelch
Dec 6 @ 9:48 PM EST
agreed I am very excited to play with some babel and would love to take the plunge into webpack. Intimidating
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TDotPiddy
Dec 6 @ 9:48 PM EST
I'd love to be able to roll my own Graph DB.
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HaktanSuren
Dec 6 @ 9:49 PM EST
video/image processing and computer vision in general. I have a lot of ideas
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:)
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dev_vine
Dec 6 @ 9:49 PM EST
So much I want to dig into, top of my head: Realtime, IoT, machine/deep learning
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stevedesmond_ca
Dec 6 @ 9:49 PM EST
Also, newer low-level languages like Go and Rust
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https://t.co/sodPLWfEtu
ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:44 PM EST
What's a programming domain other than your greatest expertise that you want to become more proficient in?
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justAfanDavid
Dec 6 @ 9:50 PM EST
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starting out on key-punch & slide rules to seeing today's tech, the future can/has been ....interesting...;-)
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Nick_Craver
Dec 6 @ 9:50 PM EST
UX. Nothing you build matters if no one can use it. Understanding users and building *the right thing* is a critical skill.
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:44 PM EST
What's a programming domain other than your greatest expertise that you want to become more proficient in?
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jxpx777
Dec 6 @ 9:50 PM EST
💯 I think being full stack means in part being meta-prepared for the work. Prepared to be unprepared, to grapple.
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brooksdavis
Dec 6 @ 9:51 PM EST
My team (~20ppl) does ISAs, CPUs, OSes, run times, languages, and apps. As a team we're full stack.
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
What does the idea of "full-stack" development mean to you? Are you a full-stack developer?
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heimidal
Dec 6 @ 9:51 PM EST
for big companies, I think a self-managed PaaS is the best option for similar reasons, but you have the keys.
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TonyTalksTech
Dec 6 @ 9:52 PM EST
game development. I want to make an RPG that my brother and I can play
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Paulmicha
Dec 6 @ 9:52 PM EST
practical applications of
#IEML
(information economy meta language)
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- ex:
https://t.co/UKkBzrnevE
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bendhalpern
Dec 6 @ 9:52 PM EST
I'd like to find an excuse to learn
@rustlang
and work on some lower level problems
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:44 PM EST
What's a programming domain other than your greatest expertise that you want to become more proficient in?
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kellyjandrews
Dec 6 @ 9:53 PM EST
Security. Its a never ending struggle but is something really important.
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:44 PM EST
What's a programming domain other than your greatest expertise that you want to become more proficient in?
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heimidal
Dec 6 @ 9:55 PM EST
I also think stepping away and going outside the PaaS is required sometimes. A willingness to step away is healthy.
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gdavis92
Dec 6 @ 9:55 PM EST
server spin up, heavier focus on server side programming, eg PHP, Ruby
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polyov_dev
Dec 6 @ 9:56 PM EST
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@ThePracticalDev
Full stack means working with the database config and the css styles.
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roger_b_m
Dec 6 @ 9:56 PM EST
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for me it's native mobile. I never have the time :( Sad b/c I started out doing native development (pre-web).
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ajednet
Dec 6 @ 9:56 PM EST
you could always write a webapp in rust (srsly)
https://t.co/nOtctvsoKr
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In reply to @bendhalpern, @rustlang
Nick_Craver
Dec 6 @ 9:57 PM EST
And teaching. Experience you can share is worth 10,000x more. Teaching isn’t an easy skill, IMO. It’s hard to do well.
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:44 PM EST
What's a programming domain other than your greatest expertise that you want to become more proficient in?
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bendhalpern
Dec 6 @ 9:58 PM EST
Yeah. It's probably what will end up happening. I still feel like I want to find a reason to *need* Rust
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In reply to @ajednet, @rustlang
lucus_patrick
Dec 6 @ 9:58 PM EST
@ThePracticalDev
yes. & also don’t think UX is limited to GUI’s. UX is critical to your APIs, Interfaces, etc..
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In reply to @Nick_Craver, @ThePracticalDev
aaauaucuggaa
Dec 6 @ 9:59 PM EST
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stats for sure
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polyov_dev
Dec 6 @ 9:59 PM EST
Working on a kernel. I spend lots of time with how things look, OS programming is basically the complete opposite of that.
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ThePracticalDev
Dec 6 @ 9:44 PM EST
What's a programming domain other than your greatest expertise that you want to become more proficient in?
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