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desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:00 PM EST

Welcome to #elmused chat! Please introduce yourself: name/location/grade levels and do you teach recorders. If so, which grades?

twkellyMRES Jan 31 @ 9:01 PM EST

Tamika Kelly, Elementary Music K - 5, NC. I teach recorders in 4th grade. #elmused

phyllissings Jan 31 @ 9:01 PM EST

Phyllis, Louisiana, 5th & 6th grade, and YES recorders taught to both grades #elmused

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:02 PM EST

This chat will follow a simple Question&Answer format. I’ll tweet Q1/you’ll answer w A1. Don’t forget to add #elmused to each tweet!

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:03 PM EST

I am Destiny from deep East Texas in a small rural/impoverished town. Pre-K-3rd, I teach them to 3rd most years for enrichment. #elmused

tracyking Jan 31 @ 9:04 PM EST

#elmused I'm Tracy (aka thebulletinboardlady) 3-5 in MO. I try NOT to teach recorder as it is my least fave thng to teach. INSPIRE me! :-)

dspears37 Jan 31 @ 9:04 PM EST

Hi everyone! Dana Spears from MN. I teach K-5 and just started recorders for the first time TODAY! (In 5th grade) #elmused

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:05 PM EST

Q1 coming up! #elmused

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:05 PM EST

A1 pt 2 I motivate kids all year. If they can't read music by the time we start, I write it out in letter & stick notation #elmused

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:06 PM EST

Q1 How do you prepare for the recorders? Do you make a big production to the Ss & parents to get them on board? Who buys them? #elmused

twkellyMRES Jan 31 @ 9:07 PM EST

A1: I introduce it as a special grade level activity. I have a set of 50, but I strongly recommend Ss buy their own. #elmused

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:08 PM EST

A1 My PTO bought the original set . I sell the ones the kids use at the end of the year to them for the summer and buy new ones. #elmused

tracyking Jan 31 @ 9:08 PM EST

#elmused My students always buy their own recorders. I have a stash of school recorders I lend out during class time for those that don't.

dspears37 Jan 31 @ 9:08 PM EST

A1 I talked them up big time to the kids. I used $ from Music Boosters to buy them. If kids want theirs they'll give me $5 #elmused

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:09 PM EST

A1 pt 2 I motivate kids all year. If they can't read music by the time we start, I write it out in letter & stick notation #elmused

dspears37 Jan 31 @ 9:09 PM EST

if they don't want theirs, do you sanitize and save for extras for later? #elmused

In reply to @desmusik

svitullomusic Jan 31 @ 9:09 PM EST

Sarah, NC, k-5. I teach recorder to 4th gr #elmused

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:00 PM EST

Welcome to #elmused chat! Please introduce yourself: name/location/grade levels and do you teach recorders. If so, which grades?

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svitullomusic Jan 31 @ 9:10 PM EST

A1: sent letters home, included online link for purchase - about 1/2 paid- many already had one from siblings #elmused

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:06 PM EST

Q1 How do you prepare for the recorders? Do you make a big production to the Ss & parents to get them on board? Who buys them? #elmused

molliany Jan 31 @ 9:11 PM EST

Natalie Andover, MN K-5 - I teach recorders 3-5. #elmused

annemileski Jan 31 @ 9:11 PM EST

Hey Everyone! Anne K-5 music in WA. Glad to be joining tonight!! I keep missing these!! #elmused

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:12 PM EST

Q2 coming up! #elmused

phyllissings Jan 31 @ 9:12 PM EST

A1: Ss purchase their own recorders.Letters go home to Ps. When they arrive the Ss are already excited. No need for big production! #elmused

annemileski Jan 31 @ 9:12 PM EST

A1: I send a note home, but I have a class set for kids to use (I wash at the end of the year) and they can buy their own. #elmused

MsDsMusicRoom Jan 31 @ 9:12 PM EST

A1: 3rd Grade curriculum is recorder. Parents purchase for Ss. Teaching k-6 in NY #elmused

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:13 PM EST

Q2 How do you handle the "noise" of recorders in class and or centers/stations? Share some management tips #elmused #recorders

molliany Jan 31 @ 9:13 PM EST

A1: 3rd graders are easy to sell on them! I do recorder karate with "belts." It motivates most. #elmused

phyllissings Jan 31 @ 9:14 PM EST

A2: I called it organized chaos and run w it. It's all centers & loads of noise but we have a lot of fun #elmused

twkellyMRES Jan 31 @ 9:14 PM EST

A2: Generally, the noise doesn't bother me, but I have a warning system for playing during instruction. #elmused

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tracyking Jan 31 @ 9:15 PM EST

#elmused A2 All of my recorder stations are NOT playing. We compose, do wksh, watch a recorder video, practice fingerings, wk on rhythms etc

svitullomusic Jan 31 @ 9:15 PM EST

A2: ❤ this! Recognize when it's productive "noise"... focus on process right now... let Ss go outside& I can watch thru the window #elmused

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:13 PM EST

Q2 How do you handle the "noise" of recorders in class and or centers/stations? Share some management tips #elmused #recorders

molliany Jan 31 @ 9:16 PM EST

A1 P2: Ss buy recorders. Have a some for low-income, plus parents send extra $. Also, round cost up and have a little extra. #elmused

MsDsMusicRoom Jan 31 @ 9:16 PM EST

A2: Agreed, I have a 3 strike rule for unwanted playing. During centers the noise doesn't distract. #elmused

svitullomusic Jan 31 @ 9:16 PM EST

oooh! Can you share your warning system? #elmused

In reply to @twkellyMRES

dspears37 Jan 31 @ 9:17 PM EST

A2 I'm a firm believer of apologizing to the reading teacher next door and getting on with the music 😂 whether recorders xylos etc #elmused

svitullomusic Jan 31 @ 9:17 PM EST

👍🏽good options to try #elmused

tracyking Jan 31 @ 9:15 PM EST

#elmused A2 All of my recorder stations are NOT playing. We compose, do wksh, watch a recorder video, practice fingerings, wk on rhythms etc

phyllissings Jan 31 @ 9:18 PM EST

1st day of school I introduced myself and apologized to the T next door. She has learned to tune it out now! #elmused

In reply to @dspears37

molliany Jan 31 @ 9:18 PM EST

A2: Noise doesn't bother me. I too have warning system for those not "on-task." #elmused

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:19 PM EST

Q3 coming up! #elmused

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:20 PM EST

Q3 Do you have a select group/ recorder choir group you work with? If so, do you audition? Do you have parental help? #elmused #recorders

molliany Jan 31 @ 9:20 PM EST

A2 P2: off-task behavior = blowing too hard, not playing what's written. #elmused

svitullomusic Jan 31 @ 9:21 PM EST

A3: not right now- maybe one day #elmused

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:20 PM EST

Q3 Do you have a select group/ recorder choir group you work with? If so, do you audition? Do you have parental help? #elmused #recorders

phyllissings Jan 31 @ 9:21 PM EST

A3: I wish! That would be fun. I'm on a 9week quarterly schedule, once they get going, it's time for a new elective! #elmused

twkellyMRES Jan 31 @ 9:21 PM EST

#elmused The first interruption, they lose the instrument for 5 minutes, the 2nd-they lose it for the remainder of class.

In reply to @svitullomusic

molliany Jan 31 @ 9:22 PM EST

A2 p3: 1st warning = 5 min "time-out" fingering headless, 2nd = 10 min, 3rd call home #elmused

molliany Jan 31 @ 9:22 PM EST

A3: No recorder group. #elmused

twkellyMRES Jan 31 @ 9:22 PM EST

#elmused I usually give them a middle joint, so they can still they practice fingerings.

In reply to @svitullomusic

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:23 PM EST

A3 I do not have time for a select group. As soon as they are good enough, they switch schools to move up to 4th grade #elmused

phyllissings Jan 31 @ 9:23 PM EST

I give mine a pencil. They hate it! #elmused

In reply to @twkellyMRES, @svitullomusic

MsDsMusicRoom Jan 31 @ 9:24 PM EST

A3: 4th Grade volunteer recess Alto Recorders. In school practice only. Usually play on 4th grade concert #elmused

molliany Jan 31 @ 9:26 PM EST

A3 p2: currently, no time and no real desire. I have a choir club, and plans to get a tech lab up and running. #elmused

annemileski Jan 31 @ 9:26 PM EST

A2: I encourage kids to “practice” but tell them to practice their fingers in resting position—mouthpiece on chin. #elmused

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:27 PM EST

Q4 coming up! #elmused

annemileski Jan 31 @ 9:27 PM EST

A2: Also, I find that if you give them some time to doodle at the beginning, and also during to “practice independently” it helps #elmused

annemileski Jan 31 @ 9:27 PM EST

I love using brag tags for this reason! They want that reward!! #elmused

In reply to @molliany

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:28 PM EST

Q4 How do you handle the class management when incorporating recorders, movement or other instruments? #elmused #recorders

molliany Jan 31 @ 9:29 PM EST

A4: Class management is a bit ugly. Ss waiting to "test" while others practice. It's why I'm excited to try flipping this year. #elmused

annemileski Jan 31 @ 9:29 PM EST

Q4: if it’s an activity w/ different jobs, recorders are the jobs for leaders!! I try to catch kiddos being good to join that group #elmused

twkellyMRES Jan 31 @ 9:30 PM EST

A4: Working in groups works well bc I can see easier who needs more help and helps with collaboration. #elmused

phyllissings Jan 31 @ 9:31 PM EST

A4:I have a S leader in each of mygroups to help out: teach, listen, give "belts" Let Ss do my https://t.co/IiptFFRyoo like a charm #elmused

MrsGagnonMusic Jan 31 @ 9:32 PM EST

A4 I started using centers with 3rd gr recorders and it's helped with class managament (sorry I'm so late!) #elmused

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:34 PM EST

A4 I let kids come belt test while they are in the cafeteria waiting to go to class, I use class time for the others. #elmused

MsDsMusicRoom Jan 31 @ 9:34 PM EST

A4: today centers were constructing measures of a class melody. Creation and revision can be noisy but worth it #elmused

MrsGagnonMusic Jan 31 @ 9:35 PM EST

A1 This Ss are already excited to do recorder - they can buy recorder through the school and I have extras in case they forget. #elmused

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:36 PM EST

Q5 coming up! #elmused

audreymelugin Jan 31 @ 9:36 PM EST

Sorry I'm late! I teach K-5 in DFW TX. Recorders are 3-5 this year #elmused

MrsGagnonMusic Jan 31 @ 9:36 PM EST

A2 The noise doesn't bother me, as long as they're on task #elmused

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:37 PM EST

Q5 How do you handle,correct, reteach technical issues with a student's breathing, squawking, bouncing to the beat, etc? #elmused #recorders

molliany Jan 31 @ 9:38 PM EST

A5: I address a lot in large group practice, but the rest I address individually when they test for me. #elmused

MrsGagnonMusic Jan 31 @ 9:38 PM EST

A5 I'm finding that working with Ss in small groups in centers is helping with that! #elmused

phyllissings Jan 31 @ 9:39 PM EST

A5: day 1 we talk about technique and I'm extremely picky about it. They know key phrases I say to remind them of technique #elmused

annemileski Jan 31 @ 9:40 PM EST

Q5: I try to do a lot of whole group, individual (like 5 in a row) & small group. Keep it moving & kids ready to play at any time!! #elmused

audreymelugin Jan 31 @ 9:41 PM EST

A1: I send a letter home, 1 big order in Fall, class set for lending for in class. My school bought a few extra to sell if needed. #elmused

phyllissings Jan 31 @ 9:41 PM EST

I treat recorders like they are in the band & then they take it more seriously! #elmused

MsDsMusicRoom Jan 31 @ 9:41 PM EST

A5: looking for solutions to better production of low G in Alto. Anyone have hints? #elmused

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:43 PM EST

Q6 coming up! #elmused

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:44 PM EST

Q6 Do you use a certain methodology/program/repertoire to teach the recorder? If not, what do you do? Are there earned incentives? #elmused

annemileski Jan 31 @ 9:45 PM EST

A6: I try to use a folk song based sequence a lot like what I have from my Kodály background. Hoping to share to TpT soon!! #elmused

molliany Jan 31 @ 9:46 PM EST

A6: I use Recorder Karate. Last year found other equivalents for the belts for variety, and added Recorder Apprentice for 3rd. #elmused

dspears37 Jan 31 @ 9:46 PM EST

A6 using Recorder Karate - first year w/recorders so I picked one I heard about the most. Plus - BELTS! #elmused

annemileski Jan 31 @ 9:46 PM EST

A6: I had Michael Chandler for my Orff Recorder training. His book is amazing: https://t.co/9gOPKpBvjb #elmused

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:46 PM EST

A6 I use the REcorder Karate songs and add a few things to make it my own. The kids really love it. I use yarn and ponytail bands #elmused

MusicMrDarling Jan 31 @ 9:48 PM EST

A6 When starting in 3rd, I adapt what I learned from colleagues & Orff levels. Start with Sol-Mi songs. I like starting with GE... #elmused

phyllissings Jan 31 @ 9:48 PM EST

A6: GREAT resource here! I start w the C-A pattern. #elmused https://t.co/V1igO8qdCm

MrsGagnonMusic Jan 31 @ 9:48 PM EST

A6 I use "Recorder Karate" -I used to use Denise Gagne's book but switched to Barb Philipak's this year. #elmused

molliany Jan 31 @ 9:48 PM EST

A6 p2: I also use yarn for belts, most love it. My tech integrationist created a badge sheet for me that I'm excited to try out. #elmused

MusicMrDarling Jan 31 @ 9:49 PM EST

A6 cont. I like GE because it solves some RH placement issues, and it really gets Ss using a gentle breath to get E out. #elmused

MrsGagnonMusic Jan 31 @ 9:49 PM EST

I use embroidery thread and just recently found tie dye ones for "bonus" belts. #elmused

In reply to @desmusik

MusicMrDarling Jan 31 @ 9:49 PM EST

(Hi everyone, by the way!) #elmused

svitullomusic Jan 31 @ 9:49 PM EST

A6: recorder karate & belts /@Seesaw so Ss can log progress & look back on, assess their own work #elmused

In reply to @Seesaw

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:44 PM EST

Q6 Do you use a certain methodology/program/repertoire to teach the recorder? If not, what do you do? Are there earned incentives? #elmused

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:50 PM EST

Q7 coming up! #elmused

svitullomusic Jan 31 @ 9:50 PM EST

love the idea of badges! #elmused

In reply to @molliany

phyllissings Jan 31 @ 9:50 PM EST

I use loom bands for belts. Keeps it clean looking. Ss love them! #elmused

In reply to @MrsGagnonMusic, @desmusik

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:51 PM EST

Q7 Without promoting a certain product, which recorder brand/type do you prefer and why? Is there a resource that is helpful #elmused

audreymelugin Jan 31 @ 9:51 PM EST

A2: A GREAT time to talk about acoustics! #STEAM They find a place to hear themselves or create their own. #elmused

MrsGagnonMusic Jan 31 @ 9:51 PM EST

I've heard of people doing that - seems so much easier logistically! #elmused

In reply to @phyllissings, @desmusik

MsDsMusicRoom Jan 31 @ 9:52 PM EST

First year using loom bands. Previously used embroidery thread. Combo recorder karate and gagne #elmused

phyllissings Jan 31 @ 9:52 PM EST

A7: I prefer a one piece recorder. No one tries to take them apart. Less breaking. #elmused

MrsGagnonMusic Jan 31 @ 9:53 PM EST

I think that's what I'll do next year - I like the "Kids Notes" option in Denise's book. #elmused

In reply to @MsDsMusicRoom

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:54 PM EST

A7 I LOVE the PRECORDERS from Suzuki for 2nd and 3rd because of the raised holes. Ss can feel the holes. It is easy to clean also. #elmused

MrsGagnonMusic Jan 31 @ 9:54 PM EST

A7 I've only ever used three piece Baroque, but the Ss can drive me crazy taking it apart! #elmused

MrsGagnonMusic Jan 31 @ 9:55 PM EST

A7 I'm also toying with the idea of a German fingering recorder for the easier F option. Anyone use German? #elmused

dspears37 Jan 31 @ 9:55 PM EST

do you buy your loom bands online? They're not everywhere in stores anymore! #elmused

In reply to @MsDsMusicRoom

audreymelugin Jan 31 @ 9:56 PM EST

A2: PT. 2 It solves the root issue of not being able to hear themselves in indiv practice. I will also greatly treat my neighbor :) #elmused

phyllissings Jan 31 @ 9:57 PM EST

Yes amazon!!!! #elmused

In reply to @dspears37, @MsDsMusicRoom

dspears37 Jan 31 @ 9:57 PM EST

A7 any suggestions for a student who can produce the embouchure but doesn't have finger dexterity to cover the holes, at all? #elmused

desmusik - Moderator Jan 31 @ 9:58 PM EST

Thanks for joining #elmused chat tonight! We hope to see you next week to discuss Assessment: Written vs. Performance.

audreymelugin Jan 31 @ 9:59 PM EST

A3: No, but was with T before me. I think it would be a nice alternative to our select choir, but I have no more time to give.. #elmused

dspears37 Jan 31 @ 9:59 PM EST

Thanks everyone! I was a bit shellshocked after first day EVER of recorders, this was great! #elmused