#SwDMathChat Archive
Thursday January 26, 2017
9:00 PM EST
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Jan 26 @ 9:00 PM EST
Participate in the upcoming
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bkdidact
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Jan 26 @ 9:01 PM EST
Andy, NYC, adaptive/life skills high school math, department chair for math/science
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 8:59 PM EST
Welcome to
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Thanks for attending!! Tonight's chat = Post Secondary Options pls introduce yourselves
mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:02 PM EST
Robin NYC work with many kinds of Math students and teachers including Swd
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DDibley123
Jan 26 @ 9:07 PM EST
I hang out on the other end of the age spectrum. I'll check in but won't have anything to offer.
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:08 PM EST
Jen McAleer, Massachusetts, algebra 1
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massignmenthelp
Jan 26 @ 9:10 PM EST
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10 Ways to read textbooks effectively
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AssignmentHelpN
Jan 26 @ 9:10 PM EST
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:10 PM EST
also math department chair for MS. LBLD Ss!
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anyaostapczuk
Jan 26 @ 9:10 PM EST
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Anya, Illinois, Algebra 1, Geometry, Physical Science
mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:11 PM EST
Q1
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what can we do to help s's w as many opps as possible?
bkdidact
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:11 PM EST
Hi Jen!
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:11 PM EST
Hey Anya!
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anyaostapczuk
Jan 26 @ 9:12 PM EST
hello!
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1: Two words. Self. Advocacy. Students need to know how to speak up for themselves!
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:11 PM EST
Q1
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what can we do to help s's w as many opps as possible?
jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1: at our school we provide Ss with skills such as advocacy and knowing their learning profile to understand how they learn!
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:14 PM EST
@mathconfidence
ditto!!! You took the words out of my mouth :)
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1
@bkdidact
do u think s's are comfortable disclosing?
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:15 PM EST
not always. I have a friend how has LBLD and just opened up to ME! Ss need to be taught that it's ok
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:15 PM EST
In a world that will do them no favors, they need to be. Laws are there to protect their abilities to disclose.
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:15 PM EST
A1
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thx great! how do you promote that to s's and their families? are there classes on this?
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:15 PM EST
also, we do a lot of unpacking of their profiles to highlight strengths not just weaknesses
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:16 PM EST
A1
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Iknow a 20 yr old college s who hasnt disclosed is getting caught w remedial math
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:16 PM EST
it's foundational to our 6th grade model. It's a "tool" they earn in their toolbox.. as well as org...
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:16 PM EST
There are local self-advocacy associations. Ours is SANYS: self-advocacy association of NYS
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:17 PM EST
tools and other edu tools we provide. They leave with a "toolbox of resources"
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:17 PM EST
https://t.co/yNxoIl1R8N
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:17 PM EST
thx that is great !!
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:17 PM EST
I love it! I'm not sure we have as many.. edu advocates is what our parents mostly rely on
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:18 PM EST
thx do u have a list of these resources? wow
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watertankmath
Jan 26 @ 9:19 PM EST
Watertank Math also joining in on
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tonight! From KS!
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tperran
Jan 26 @ 9:19 PM EST
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Hi everyone! Tom from Richmond, VA I am a Resource teacher for HS students.
In reply to @mathconfidence
mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:19 PM EST
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Q2 to be posted soon
jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:19 PM EST
I'm happy to share, would have to put something together. I'll do a blog post and post it at this hashtag tmo!
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davidwees
Jan 26 @ 9:20 PM EST
A1: We need to destigmatize differences in how we think and what we can do. Colleges need to change, not students.
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:20 PM EST
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Q2 What have your s's done post HS? College? Trade? Military? Work?
anyaostapczuk
Jan 26 @ 9:20 PM EST
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we make sure Ss are a HUGE part of their IEPs so they understand their disability, what they are entitled to, & have a say.
jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:21 PM EST
education as a whole needs a change! I agree!! Not just SwD benefit from this type of teaching!
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:21 PM EST
https://t.co/LlMtEief3z
maybe?
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In reply to @jennifuhs4, @mathconfidence
anyaostapczuk
Jan 26 @ 9:21 PM EST
Many of my Ss have gone into military, community college or a trade school
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:21 PM EST
Hi there Tom!
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In reply to @tperran, @mathconfidence
jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2: all of the above. We hope Ss leave knowing who they are and what their strengths are! We host multi intelligence day at
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:22 PM EST
a2: our school to hammer this home
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:22 PM EST
yes! That is where they go!
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:23 PM EST
A2: All of the above. Focus is finding matches for student interest and strengths. 4-year internship opportunities help too!
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:20 PM EST
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Q2 What have your s's done post HS? College? Trade? Military? Work?
jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:23 PM EST
Multiple intelligences day is huge for our kids. Lawyers, trades ppl, doctors, speakers all come that are dyslexic!
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:24 PM EST
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who does the guidance? college counselor? adv ocate? parent?
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tperran
Jan 26 @ 9:24 PM EST
A2 My students have gone on to all four off those listed. I suppose I most often contact those who went to work locally
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:24 PM EST
We need more adults with disabilities to speak at our school! This is a great idea!
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:24 PM EST
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what kind of internship opps?
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:24 PM EST
I hope to hire past Ss in the near future as they know their brains and how they learn the best. They want to come back!!
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:25 PM EST
it is AMAZING. I would love to talk more to you about this!
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In reply to @bkdidact
mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:25 PM EST
and also parents of s's w disabilities
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so p's can hear from other p's
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:26 PM EST
all kinds: childcare, mail room, retail, animal care, etc.
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:26 PM EST
we have panels of parents and past Ss at the beginning of and throughout the yr
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tperran
Jan 26 @ 9:26 PM EST
Hi Andrew! Sorry I'm late. Wife and I are mourning Mary Tyler Moore tonight.
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:26 PM EST
We have parent groups and PTA events. I am thinking more about the Ss POV of their opportunities
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:27 PM EST
yes!! For math! We have a focus area extra math class and some Ss think it helped them see math differently
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anyaostapczuk
Jan 26 @ 9:27 PM EST
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Convo starts with councilor, then we talk about it as an IEP team and I follow up with my caseload of kids.
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:27 PM EST
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great that your school has r'ships with orgs that will hire your s's
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:29 PM EST
yeah, we also have a post-secondary, more vocationally based site that focuses even more on this area.
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watertankmath
Jan 26 @ 9:29 PM EST
Nice intimate chat going on here at
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tonight:-)
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:30 PM EST
thx for all the great info/sharing everyone!! Q3 coming up :)
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:31 PM EST
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Q3 what Math should s's know? ACCUPLACER see attached ASVAB much of this is mid sch Math
jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:33 PM EST
A3: unfortunately many of my Ss are already over tested so yes. Something similar. My Ss need extra time on tests like theses!
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:33 PM EST
thx David what kinds of changes do you think would be the most helpful for Swd?
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giveawaybucket
Jan 26 @ 9:33 PM EST
A3: unfortunately many of my Ss are already over tested so yes. Something similar. My Ss need extra time on tests like theses!
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watertankmath
Jan 26 @ 9:34 PM EST
Q3: ours have not, primarily PSAT is used.
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:34 PM EST
But I think Ss should UNDERSTAND how to figure out problems given enough time. Derive not memorize!
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tperran
Jan 26 @ 9:35 PM EST
A3 I thought the ASVAB was very difficult for any students. It asked them to do things they didn't normally do.
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anyaostapczuk
Jan 26 @ 9:35 PM EST
Mine are more exposed to the SAT then any other but we do offer ASVAB testing and studying materials
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:36 PM EST
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extra time for accuplacer possibel I think but ASVAB no accommodatinos
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:36 PM EST
or skills in isolation which for many SwD doesn't make sense or have meaning!
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:37 PM EST
right. Which deters many of my Ss who want to go into some parts of armed forces!
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anyaostapczuk
Jan 26 @ 9:37 PM EST
ASVAB there are ZERO accommodations and no calculator is allowed
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:37 PM EST
all I can say to that is 🙄
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:38 PM EST
so many of my Ss struggle to memorize esp facts.. but are of above average/high intelligence 😡
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anyaostapczuk
Jan 26 @ 9:38 PM EST
yeah me too! I understand where they are coming from. In the field they won't have time or a calc
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:39 PM EST
yes esp w working memory issues
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:39 PM EST
Q4 coming up for
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:40 PM EST
I agree. I just struggle with the idea that my Ss can out problem solve most "typical" Ss...
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tperran
Jan 26 @ 9:40 PM EST
True, the ASVAB, though difficult, did seem to focus on skills the students found more useful
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anyaostapczuk
Jan 26 @ 9:41 PM EST
Every Ss is great at something to bad it's not always what they are tested on 😩
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:41 PM EST
Truer words…
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anyaostapczuk
Jan 26 @ 9:41 PM EST
Every Ss is great at something to bad it's not always what they are tested on 😩
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:42 PM EST
Q4
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@davidwees
what can colleges do 2b more accommodating to s's with dis? (which would help all s's!)
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:42 PM EST
I know! Or skills that CAN be tested!
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anyaostapczuk
Jan 26 @ 9:43 PM EST
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some do offer accommodations as well as math and writing labs but not all and it's not mandatory
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:43 PM EST
A4: When I was in college, they didn’t teach students, they taught content. That should change.
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:42 PM EST
Q4
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@davidwees
what can colleges do 2b more accommodating to s's with dis? (which would help all s's!)
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:45 PM EST
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thx Andrew:) trying to picture what that would look like? in Math? other areas?
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:45 PM EST
This.
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:43 PM EST
A4: When I was in college, they didn’t teach students, they taught content. That should change.
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:42 PM EST
Q4
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@davidwees
what can colleges do 2b more accommodating to s's with dis? (which would help all s's!)
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:46 PM EST
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have you heard of any colleges that offer oral exams in lieu of papers?
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:46 PM EST
Not lecturing in massive auditoriums could be one simple change. College should be about learning, not making $
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anyaostapczuk
Jan 26 @ 9:46 PM EST
not that I know of but it would be great for them. I know some will offer a scribe
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davidwees
Jan 26 @ 9:47 PM EST
A4: A starting place might be more concerned about teaching. Many colleges tread teaching as secondary to all else.
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:49 PM EST
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A4 I know what you mean I have an#observeme sign but no one has visited :(
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tperran
Jan 26 @ 9:49 PM EST
I read an article last year that VT was teaching some math classes in a strip mall off campus
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:50 PM EST
Get ready Q5 on the way :)
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:50 PM EST
I'd visit!!
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:51 PM EST
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Q5: How can famliies help s's research&choose good options? Many schools don't offer support
jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:53 PM EST
A5: edu advocates .. but they can be expensive! Some are free but require effort and time by Ps that they may not have!
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:53 PM EST
A5: Schools must offer support. It takes a village and all!
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:51 PM EST
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Q5: How can famliies help s's research&choose good options? Many schools don't offer support
davidwees
Jan 26 @ 9:54 PM EST
Just to clarify: I don't think this is a problem for individual instructors but more at the system level.
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:54 PM EST
a good neuropsych and side education also helps Ps advocate and understand their Ss' profile! Need more free workshops for Ps!
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tperran
Jan 26 @ 9:54 PM EST
A5 By being an integral part of their child's team. Knowing their strengths and weaknesses in math and elsewhere.
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:54 PM EST
A5
@bkdidact
I agree butmany schools do not so p's must take it onto themselves
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:55 PM EST
@mathconfidence
this is also a great point! Schools are part of the team/village
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watertankmath
Jan 26 @ 9:55 PM EST
A5: our school uses naviance to help Ss focus on career path based off interests. Lots of resources to help direct Ss.
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mathconfidence
Jan 26 @ 9:56 PM EST
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do u recommend a late in HS eval? like 11th/12th grade?
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:56 PM EST
being a parent of a SwD is unfortunately often a full-time job, because of the lack of auxilary support.
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jennifuhs4
Jan 26 @ 9:56 PM EST
A5: teacher to Ss relationships and honesty with parents about the Ss' strengths and passions go a LONG way
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