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participatechat Apr 3 @ 3:00 PM EDT

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CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:00 PM EDT

Ok here we go, so who has read GL238? #asechat

edubabbIe Apr 3 @ 3:00 PM EDT

There are teachers prepared? #asechat

carlymbrett Apr 3 @ 3:02 PM EDT

#asechat I did, our floors are in a state

In reply to @CLEAPSS

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:02 PM EDT

There is no specific topic for tonights #ASEchat apart from H&S. So feel free to fire over your questions.

gregtheseal Apr 3 @ 3:02 PM EDT

#asechat not me the dog ate my log on

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CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:04 PM EDT

sadly this is the case in many schools. It does present a real trip hazard, which when carrying chemicals could be dangerous #asechat

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CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:06 PM EDT

what were they ? #asechat

In reply to @hertwit

carlymbrett Apr 3 @ 3:06 PM EDT

#asechat it is just so exhausting trying to fight for h&s issues to be sorted when the government don't seem to be doing anything

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gregtheseal Apr 3 @ 3:07 PM EDT

#asechat @CLEAPSS do you have any info on lone technician working practices?

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CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:07 PM EDT

Any areas of major concern? #asechat

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CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:07 PM EDT

Yes it is covered in L248a : https://t.co/sKZI0TM4Z7 #asechat

In reply to @gregtheseal

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:08 PM EDT

Great news - there is a common misconception that eye wash bottles are safer #asechat

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CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:09 PM EDT

the average eye wash bottle only lasts 30-40 seconds, and you need to wash eye for min. 10mins. #asechat

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CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:11 PM EDT

We have lots of evidence that lack of techs impacts on exam results... #asechat

In reply to @carlymbrett

carlymbrett Apr 3 @ 3:12 PM EDT

#asechat is it something you can publish on the website?

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CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:12 PM EDT

This is a fundamental requirement under IGEM Gas regulations. This is sorting... #asechat

In reply to @hertwit

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:13 PM EDT

Good plan :) #asechat

In reply to @matthewpooleuk

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:14 PM EDT

Jane our technician adviser is best to help with this, she is on leave over Easter call us when she is back. #asechat

In reply to @carlymbrett

gregtheseal Apr 3 @ 3:15 PM EDT

Thanks, will have to read when in school (dog ate my log in) #asechat

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CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:15 PM EDT

#asechat

hertwit Apr 3 @ 3:14 PM EDT

Thanks useful to have this info.
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rclifton1 Apr 3 @ 3:16 PM EDT

Yes! No air/ch in prep, bad floors, no elec shut offs, rusty cabinets, plenty more #asechat #help!

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carlymbrett Apr 3 @ 3:16 PM EDT

#asechat that's great thank you, have you got any advice for getting floors/pipes fixed that are literally spewing water.

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doc_kristy Apr 3 @ 3:17 PM EDT

Here's a question for any trainee teachers out there... What kind of H&S training is there in ITT these days? #ASEChat

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:02 PM EDT

There is no specific topic for tonights #ASEchat apart from H&S. So feel free to fire over your questions.

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:18 PM EDT

Start small with this one, and get the rusty cabinets sorted first, they would be my priority here. #asechat

In reply to @rclifton1

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:19 PM EDT

Get your governors in and show them the issues you are dealing with and the impact on learning it has. #asechat

In reply to @carlymbrett

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:20 PM EDT

It is very varied, some do a great job. But sadly many do little to none at all.... #asechat

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hrogerson Apr 3 @ 3:23 PM EDT

Is there a technician shortage? Seems to be a lot of adverts for them about. #ASEChat

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:23 PM EDT

The employer (school) does have a legal obligation to provide H&S training. How many schools actually do this...? #asechat

In reply to @doc_kristy

hrogerson Apr 3 @ 3:24 PM EDT

And should Heads of Science have a bit more time than other HoFs because of their H&S commitments? (Except for Heads of DT) #ASEChat

carlymbrett Apr 3 @ 3:25 PM EDT

#asechat did that,one that was doing a monitoring visit,v.supportive,it was submitted in the governors meeting mins,it's since disappeared.

In reply to @CLEAPSS

hrogerson Apr 3 @ 3:25 PM EDT

I include myself... how many HoFs know their way round the chemical store? #asechat

hrogerson Apr 3 @ 3:24 PM EDT

And should Heads of Science have a bit more time than other HoFs because of their H&S commitments? (Except for Heads of DT) #ASEChat

carlymbrett Apr 3 @ 3:26 PM EDT

#asechat I don't have any gas in my prep room

In reply to @hertwit, @CLEAPSS

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:26 PM EDT

There is no law on this, though it is good practice to not use extension leads which are wound up especially on loads #asechat

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DRBAstro Apr 3 @ 3:27 PM EDT

Yes please! #ASEChat

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CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:27 PM EDT

In an ideal world yes, this would then allow for monitoring of risk assessments and equipment checks in Sci & D&T #asechat

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CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:28 PM EDT

Not that we are aware of, sadly quite a few are being made redundant so that should make them easier to find. #asechat

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CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:28 PM EDT

However low pay and tough working conditions may be making people leave the profession... #asechat

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hrogerson Apr 3 @ 3:29 PM EDT

Do ofsted look at H&S in science & DT? #asechat

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:29 PM EDT

Get them back again then... Governors can be very helpful/powerful ppl #asechat

In reply to @carlymbrett

edubabbIe Apr 3 @ 3:30 PM EDT

Syllabus content as well. #asechat

hrogerson Apr 3 @ 3:30 PM EDT

Our technician was a teacher, she much prefers her new job. Thankfully. We've cut 0.2 of a tech though. #asechat

In reply to @CLEAPSS

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:30 PM EDT

No law on this, and a 1.5m one is totally fine. #asechat

In reply to @hertwit

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:30 PM EDT

Not helpful then :( #asechat

In reply to @carlymbrett, @hertwit

chemDrK Apr 3 @ 3:31 PM EDT

Argh! Search facility on Twitter stopped working. Trying to catch with #asechat but it won't show me tweets :-(

carlymbrett Apr 3 @ 3:31 PM EDT

Nope nightmare when you need 100 plates ish every week #asechat

In reply to @CLEAPSS, @hertwit

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:32 PM EDT

Very few I suspect, the Police & Home Office take the security of chems v seriously in terms of anti terrorism.... #asechat #syc

In reply to @hrogerson

dave2004b Apr 3 @ 3:32 PM EDT

#asechat try https://t.co/4ugq3buQuN - works a treat!

In reply to @chemDrK

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:33 PM EDT

Yes, we recently school I visited OfSTED has recently spent a long time checking H&S in science... #asechat

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CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:33 PM EDT

We do find a few who do this, and they can be great as they know both sides of the fence. #asechat

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teachingofsci Apr 3 @ 3:33 PM EDT

#asechat evening all, sorry I'm late. Itchy toddler in bed and 12yo has performed latest magic at me. ready to go!

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:34 PM EDT

tweetdeck user here too #asechat

In reply to @chemDrK

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:35 PM EDT

Must be a lot of hard work, explain this to your HoD and explain how you could be doing other things in this time. #asechat

In reply to @carlymbrett, @hertwit

teachingofsci Apr 3 @ 3:38 PM EDT

#asechat I don't have a prep room, or a technician - have to build everything on living room table. You're all spoiled!

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:39 PM EDT

Is everyone aware of the changes to the explosives regulations If not then read PS81 & about the 0.5g limit #asechat https://t.co/OnbkOSqcWp

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:40 PM EDT

The college/university they are studying at would be deemed the employer in this situation. #asechat

In reply to @doc_kristy

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:43 PM EDT

With the amounts stored in schools, if a fire gets to the chemical store (which is rare) then it won't make much difference. #asechat

In reply to @hertwit

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:44 PM EDT

Anyone got issues with their benches (with gas taps) moving lots? #asechat

LessonToolbox Apr 3 @ 3:45 PM EDT

It's not in the mark scheme, but.... #asechat #ukedchat #aussieEd

gregtheseal Apr 3 @ 3:46 PM EDT

Your always an idealist! #asechat

In reply to @hrogerson

hrogerson Apr 3 @ 3:46 PM EDT

I didn't realise this. #ASEChat

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:32 PM EDT

Very few I suspect, the Police & Home Office take the security of chems v seriously in terms of anti terrorism.... #asechat #syc
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hrogerson Apr 3 @ 3:47 PM EDT

Terrible flaw. #ASEChat

gregtheseal Apr 3 @ 3:46 PM EDT

Your always an idealist! #asechat
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TJohns85 Apr 3 @ 3:48 PM EDT

I have done this as a year assembly before #ASEchat

mrsjmasters Mar 24 @ 9:59 AM EDT

Want to turn water into wine? #ASEchat #KS3Science #chemistry

teachingofsci Apr 3 @ 3:48 PM EDT

#asechat my pet peeve; RPS position often tagged on to other responsibilities, or whoever doesn't run away, no recognition of need.

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:49 PM EDT

We are working with BSI, IGEM and DfE to come up with a defined standard on this. But for now just bolt them down with sturdy 1/2 #asechat

In reply to @DaK_74

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:49 PM EDT

bolts and get the pipework checked by a GasSafe engineer before using again 2/2 #asechat

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CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:50 PM EDT

Agreed! And this is a legal requirement for any school which holds sources. #asechat

In reply to @teachingofsci

whitebug16 Apr 3 @ 3:50 PM EDT

and there's not much of that! #asechat ;)

In reply to @teachingofsci

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:52 PM EDT

If more than a few mm, then don't use gas in that lab till it is repaired. #asechat

In reply to @hertwit

hrogerson Apr 3 @ 3:53 PM EDT

Got to say the documents from @CLEAPSS are so useful. #asechat

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whitebug16 Apr 3 @ 3:53 PM EDT

or 'you're the only physics teacher!' #asechat

In reply to @teachingofsci

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:54 PM EDT

Thanks - good to know. Lots of work goes in to developing them. #asechat

hrogerson Apr 3 @ 3:53 PM EDT

Got to say the documents from @CLEAPSS are so useful. #asechat
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hrogerson Apr 3 @ 3:54 PM EDT

We're lucky - nothing is moving. We did have a slow leak in one of the teacher benches though. No gas to that one now: irritating #asechat

In reply to @CLEAPSS, @hertwit

teachingofsci Apr 3 @ 3:54 PM EDT

It's a question I get asked a lot (visiting physics CPD). Staff often transient, little consistency. Stuff gets missed. #asechat

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teachingofsci Apr 3 @ 3:55 PM EDT

and if there's no physics teacher - often an issue in schools I visit - then HoD does their best. #asechat

In reply to @whitebug16

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:56 PM EDT

Yes, this then leads to a lack of records and leak testing. All of which are very important. #asechat

In reply to @teachingofsci

dave2004b Apr 3 @ 3:56 PM EDT

Not sure if this one has come up but https://t.co/srhgGIJ40d is a key read for all HoS #asechat @CLEAPSS

In reply to @hrogerson, @CLEAPSS

hrogerson Apr 3 @ 3:56 PM EDT

If they aren't a physicist don't they have to do an external course? #asechat

In reply to @teachingofsci, @whitebug16

dave2004b Apr 3 @ 3:57 PM EDT

I did when I took over Physics for a year and took on RPS responsibilities #asechat

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whitebug16 Apr 3 @ 3:57 PM EDT

even physicsists have to do an external course! @CLEAPSS approved one at that. #asechat

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dave2004b Apr 3 @ 3:58 PM EDT

#asechat

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teachingofsci Apr 3 @ 3:58 PM EDT

think they need to do the course anyway - I did. we're looking at offering some at host schools via IOP. #asechat

In reply to @hrogerson

CLEAPSS Apr 3 @ 3:59 PM EDT

Yes they should then do a course. We (& others) run them Our RPS course with @samirmoezzi is very popular, showing how to use them #asechat

In reply to @hrogerson, @teachingofsci, @whitebug16, @samirmoezzi