#G2Great Archive
This chat is dedicated to continuing the conversation about teacher reflection it's based on Dr. Mary Howard's book Good to Great Teaching.
Thursday November 10, 2016
8:30 PM EST
MrsMurat
Nov 10 @ 8:30 PM EST
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mindi_r
Nov 10 @ 8:31 PM EST
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Hi, all! Mindi from the Chicago Suburbs. Third grade and loving it.
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 8:31 PM EST
My tweets for the next hour are for the
#G2Great
chat "Say 'NO' to Numerical Data and 'YES' to Assessment that Informs".
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:32 PM EST
Welcome to
#G2Great
so happy to be here with the talented
@brennanamy
and brilliant
@DrMaryHoward
always
#grateful
for my PLN!
In reply to @brennanamy, @DrMaryHoward
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:32 PM EST
Hi Mindi! Welcome to
#G2great
In reply to @mindi_r
mollienye72
Nov 10 @ 8:32 PM EST
Mollie from Ohio. I teach 2nd.
#g2great
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 8:32 PM EST
Fran from SE Iowa. Literacy coach for 7 districts.
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hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:33 PM EST
Hey Mindi what was something awesome that happened today?
#G2Great
In reply to @mindi_r
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:33 PM EST
Hi Mollie!
#G2great
In reply to @mollienye72
mindi_r
Nov 10 @ 8:33 PM EST
I need this chat this week. I always end feeling uplifted and part of my tribe!
#g2great
In reply to @brennanamy
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:33 PM EST
Hi Fran!
#G2great
In reply to @franmcveigh
DrGLK
Nov 10 @ 8:33 PM EST
Hi from Sacramento! Looking forward to tonight's chat.
#G2Great
donohoe_kitty
Nov 10 @ 8:33 PM EST
Hi Friends. Kitty here from CA.
@hayhurst3
@franmcveigh
@DrMaryHoward
#g2great
In reply to @hayhurst3, @franmcveigh, @DrMaryHoward
mindi_r
Nov 10 @ 8:33 PM EST
I read all three of
@burstofbeaden
’s Hat books to my 3rdgraders. They LOVED them. Hadn’t heard the new one yet!
#G2great
In reply to @hayhurst3, @burstofbeaden
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:33 PM EST
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:30 PM EST
Hi
#G2Great
friends. I’m doing a session in Honolulu at this very moment so you get ROBO Mary due to time change. Hoping to hop in later!
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:34 PM EST
Hi All! Welcome to
#G2Great
Be sure to tell us who you are and where you are from!
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 8:34 PM EST
Thanks, Amy!
@brennanamy
And "Hi, Kitty!:
@donohoe_kitty
#G2great
In reply to @brennanamy, @donohoe_kitty
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:34 PM EST
I do love second graders
#g2Great
In reply to @mollienye72
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:34 PM EST
Hi Kitty!
#G2great
In reply to @donohoe_kitty, @hayhurst3, @franmcveigh, @DrMaryHoward
CarrieGelson
Nov 10 @ 8:34 PM EST
So pleased to be here for
#G2Great
Carrie from Vancouver BC Currently teaching Grade 4 & 5
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:35 PM EST
Hi Geri! Great to have you with us tonight
#G2great
In reply to @DrGLK
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:35 PM EST
Hi Carrie! Welcome to
#G2Great
You are teaching those amazing intermediate years, great age!
In reply to @CarrieGelson
chrisp16
Nov 10 @ 8:35 PM EST
It is wonderful! Has such a good message for the Ss!
#g2great
mindi_r
Nov 10 @ 8:33 PM EST
I read all three of
@burstofbeaden
’s Hat books to my 3rdgraders. They LOVED them. Hadn’t heard the new one yet!
#G2great
In reply to @hayhurst3, @burstofbeaden
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:35 PM EST
I know the kids love them so much (I do too). He was great at
#NCTE15
#G2Great
In reply to @mindi_r, @burstofbeaden
DrLMaucione
Nov 10 @ 8:35 PM EST
Hi! Lisa, a literacy specialist, from Massachusetts.
#G2great
MrsLisaMc
Nov 10 @ 8:36 PM EST
Always glad to be part of these great chats
#G2great
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:36 PM EST
Hi Lisa!
#g2great
In reply to @DrLMaucione
chrisp16
Nov 10 @ 8:36 PM EST
Chris from PA popping in for a bit. Seems like such long time since I have been here.
#G2great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:36 PM EST
Kitty! So so happy to see you tonight. Welcome Welcome Welcome
#g2great
In reply to @donohoe_kitty, @franmcveigh, @DrMaryHoward
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:36 PM EST
Hi Geri we are so happy you're with us tonight.
#G2Great
In reply to @DrGLK
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:37 PM EST
A1 We must view numerical data through a STUDENT LENS. As long as they remain in sight, our choices will be informed.
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LeaderandReader
Nov 10 @ 8:37 PM EST
Hi! Mindy from the Atlanta area. I'll be popping in and out this evening.
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TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 8:37 PM EST
Glad to have you back!
#G2Great
In reply to @chrisp16
MrsMues
Nov 10 @ 8:37 PM EST
Hi all! Anna, curriculum supervisor from NJ
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franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 8:37 PM EST
Wow! What a message!
@halsenderson
#G2great
halseanderson
Nov 10 @ 4:44 PM EST
Love=confronting racists. Love=supporting marginalized
https://t.co/6lpuDQ3P0H
=listening Love is a verb cuz love w/o action means nothing
EmilyAnnGordon
Nov 10 @ 8:37 PM EST
Emily from Athens, Georgia! I teach Kindergarten!
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:37 PM EST
Hi Chris so happy you are with us tonight, can't wait to see you in Atlanta
#ncte16
#g2great
In reply to @chrisp16
mindi_r
Nov 10 @ 8:37 PM EST
#g2great
RoboMary posted an answer to the first question. Can we see the question? :-)
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:37 PM EST
Hi Lisa!
#G2great
In reply to @MrsLisaMc
lywilliams132
Nov 10 @ 8:37 PM EST
#G2Great
Lynda joining from Utah. Methods Instructor at Utah Valley University in the Teacher Prep program.
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:37 PM EST
Hi Mindy! Great to have you popping in and out tonight
#G2great
In reply to @LeaderandReader
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 8:38 PM EST
Such a great community!
@donohoe_kitty
@hayhurst3
@DrMaryHoward
#G2great
In reply to @donohoe_kitty, @hayhurst3, @DrMaryHoward
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:38 PM EST
Welcome!
#G2Great
In reply to @DrLMaucione
chrisp16
Nov 10 @ 8:38 PM EST
I agree! can't believe it is next week already!
#g2great
#NCTE16
In reply to @hayhurst3
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:39 PM EST
A1 Numerical data is only the enemy when we lose sight of the child in the process. USE data but don’t ABUSE it.
#G2Great
mindi_r
Nov 10 @ 8:39 PM EST
#g2great
I’m so sad I can’t go to
#NCTE16
.
In reply to @chrisp16, @hayhurst3
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:39 PM EST
Welcome let's talk saying no so we can say yes.
#G2Great
In reply to @lywilliams132
kstover24
Nov 10 @ 8:39 PM EST
Hi all! Katie from SC...Joining a little late.
#G2Great
chrisp16
Nov 10 @ 8:39 PM EST
Thanks! It is like I am returning to family.
#g2great
In reply to @TheSammer88
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 8:39 PM EST
Already on a roll from Hawaii! Go, Mary!
@DrMaryHoward
#G2great
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:39 PM EST
A1 Numerical data is only the enemy when we lose sight of the child in the process. USE data but don’t ABUSE it.
#G2Great
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:39 PM EST
Welcome Lynda! What an amazing opportunity you have to inspire and teach future teachers
#G2great
In reply to @lywilliams132
MrsLisaMc
Nov 10 @ 8:39 PM EST
@halseanderson
Love is listening. Such a great message these days...
#G2great
In reply to @franmcveigh, @halseanderson
EduGladiators
Nov 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
Don't miss
#EduGladiators
chat Sat w/
@MattMurrie
leveraging "What If?" to Encourage Curiosity!
#mdeschat
#langchat
#memspachat
#G2Great
massignmenthelp
Nov 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
Science of boredom
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#lrnchat
#delachat
#G2Great
#precalcchat
#jerdchat
AssignmentHelpN
Nov 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
How To Fail With Success
https://t.co/soMsGBh2zf
#lrnchat
#delachat
#G2Great
#precalcchat
#delachat
DrLMaucione
Nov 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
I have to get packing!
#G2great
In reply to @chrisp16, @hayhurst3
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
Numbers tell a story
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:39 PM EST
A1 Numerical data is only the enemy when we lose sight of the child in the process. USE data but don’t ABUSE it.
#G2Great
BCEdneighbors
Nov 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
Debra, elementary instructional coach in TX, mostly watching tonight
#G2Great
chrisp16
Nov 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
I was on the fence but committed. I may skip next yr. So follow tweets & I will follow yours next yr.
#g2great
In reply to @mindi_r, @hayhurst3
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:41 PM EST
A1 We NEVER say “no” to informed assessments. They merge together in a colorful patchwork of professional possibilities!
#G2Great
chrisp16
Nov 10 @ 8:41 PM EST
We get to pack some warm clothing. Leave the winter clothes behind!!!
#g2great
In reply to @DrLMaucione, @hayhurst3
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 8:42 PM EST
Yes, love is listening and listening to understand (not just to reply)!
@MrsLisaMc
@halseanderson
#G2great
In reply to @MrsLisaMc, @halseanderson
MrsLisaMc
Nov 10 @ 8:39 PM EST
@halseanderson
Love is listening. Such a great message these days...
#G2great
In reply to @franmcveigh, @halseanderson
donohoe_kitty
Nov 10 @ 8:42 PM EST
When one spends too much time compiling data and draining creativity in the process, that's when data is not used correctly.
#G2great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:42 PM EST
Informal assessments tell us so much they are a roadmap to the process mind.
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:41 PM EST
A1 We NEVER say “no” to informed assessments. They merge together in a colorful patchwork of professional possibilities!
#G2Great
caweippert
Nov 10 @ 8:43 PM EST
Carrie Weippert, District Assessment Coordinator from Grand Forks, ND jumping in.
#G2Great
mindi_r
Nov 10 @ 8:44 PM EST
#g2great
Numeric data is just one piece of information. Most of it is a snapshot of one thing on one particular day. Have to look beyond.
MrsMues
Nov 10 @ 8:44 PM EST
welcome, Carrie!
#g2great
In reply to @caweippert
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:44 PM EST
Carrie I can't wait to hear what you're thoughts are on informal assessment.
#G2Great
In reply to @caweippert
JillDerosa
Nov 10 @ 8:44 PM EST
Hello. Jill DeRosa from LI, NY
#g2great
lywilliams132
Nov 10 @ 8:44 PM EST
#G2Great
I have a question. Where are the questions? I am trying to use context clues to figure it out. Hey, is this an assessment?
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:45 PM EST
A2 KNOW THE CHILD! When we know kids, we see
#s
in a new light. If not, we lose the child by trusting a flawed system.
#G2Great
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 8:45 PM EST
A1: Every piece of numberical data would be matched with a piece of data that "tells" the story of student learning!
#G2great
donohoe_kitty
Nov 10 @ 8:45 PM EST
@DrMaryHoward
#G2Great
We can learn so much from informal "on the fly" assessment. It doesn't have to be "fancy" to be helpful.
In reply to @hayhurst3, @DrMaryHoward
mindi_r
Nov 10 @ 8:45 PM EST
#g2great
By the time we did our first bak assessments, I’d had kids for a month. F & P confirmed what I knew thru observation & conferring
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:45 PM EST
Q1:
#G2Great
MrsMues
Nov 10 @ 8:45 PM EST
I'm missing them, too. :/
#g2great
In reply to @lywilliams132
mindi_r
Nov 10 @ 8:46 PM EST
#g2great
I hate autocorrect. My last tweet should have read BENCHMARK assessments.
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:47 PM EST
A2 Stop talking
#s
and use the child’s NAME. Keep a photo of the child nearby. Use a CHILD LENS, not a numerical lens.
#G2Great
jdsniadecki
Nov 10 @ 8:47 PM EST
Hi all! Late, but here! Jennifer, 6th grade/PD facilitator, Indiana.
#G2great
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 8:47 PM EST
A2: Combine knowledge of student and formative data for picture of student TODAY! Not the last time a test was admin.
#G2great
lywilliams132
Nov 10 @ 8:47 PM EST
Everyone else seems to know....I feel I have missed something
#G2great
In reply to @MrsMues
DrGLK
Nov 10 @ 8:47 PM EST
A1-be sure to include the behaviors that explain the numerical data.
#G2Great
donohoe_kitty
Nov 10 @ 8:47 PM EST
#G2Great
I think clever teachers know how to follow their instincts over ever changing "requirements"
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:45 PM EST
Q1:
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jdsniadecki
Nov 10 @ 8:47 PM EST
A1: I still keep my own info, too. My notes help me help the Ss.
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brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:48 PM EST
Q2:
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JillDerosa
Nov 10 @ 8:48 PM EST
Complete the assessment required (make it meaningful) but make sure I use the assessments that truly inform my teaching
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TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 8:48 PM EST
A1 Ss are people. You can't quantify our understanding of something. Informing assessments are important to monitor Ss progress
#g2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:49 PM EST
A2 Let’s make kidwatching the center of assessment. Kids are always ‘talking’ if we’re willing to pay attention.
#G2Great
jdsniadecki
Nov 10 @ 8:49 PM EST
A2: I’m lucky b/c my school requires different pieces to make sure there’s understanding in conferences, etc.
#G2great
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 8:49 PM EST
A2: ALWAYS use multiple data points. NEVER one # to label, describe or tell S story. NO ONE is a number!
#G2great
morales1stgrade
Nov 10 @ 8:49 PM EST
Hi
#g2great
! Sandra joining late...
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 8:49 PM EST
Exactly - Numbers can't tell Ts everything
#G2Great
In reply to @jdsniadecki
EmilyAnnGordon
Nov 10 @ 8:49 PM EST
A1: Conferring Notes from Readers and Writers Workshop would still be used!
#G2Great
mindi_r
Nov 10 @ 8:49 PM EST
#g2great
I understand the need for assessments as a systems check, but I hate the term “data driven.” I am a “kid driven” teacher. KIDS 1st
MrsMues
Nov 10 @ 8:49 PM EST
My internet seems to be lagging. Not sure if that's related. I did finally see Q1 and RT'd it.
#g2great
In reply to @lywilliams132
chrisp16
Nov 10 @ 8:49 PM EST
A1: it would be difficult b/c numbers don't give u a clear pic of the Ss. It is just a snapshot & more info is needed.
#G2great
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:49 PM EST
Welcome Sandra! Great to have you with us!
#G2great
In reply to @morales1stgrade
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 8:49 PM EST
Hey, Jill! See you next week chilling at dinner!
@JillDerosa
#g2great
#NCTE16
In reply to @JillDerosa
kstover24
Nov 10 @ 8:49 PM EST
A2 If a district mandated this I'd advocate for meaningful Ss centered assessment that informs instruction w/admin.
#nonnegotiable
#g2great
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:45 PM EST
Q1:
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brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:49 PM EST
Multiple data is what tells the story of our students!
#G2great
In reply to @franmcveigh
jdsniadecki
Nov 10 @ 8:50 PM EST
@JillDerosa
Hi there friend!
#G2great
In reply to @JillDerosa
JillDerosa
Nov 10 @ 8:50 PM EST
We need to use all the data and get a true picture of the students sitting in front of us
#g2great
LeaderandReader
Nov 10 @ 8:50 PM EST
A2: It comes down to knowing your students. One piece of numerical data does not tell their full story.
#G2Great
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:50 PM EST
Next question coming up
#G2Great
caweippert
Nov 10 @ 8:51 PM EST
A2: Ts should be comparing informal assess info to confirm, question or clarify numerical assessment data.
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:51 PM EST
#G2Great
jdsniadecki
Nov 10 @ 8:51 PM EST
By the way, my tweets this hour are from the amazing
#G2great
chat!
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:51 PM EST
Q3:
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MrsLisaMc
Nov 10 @ 8:51 PM EST
A2 each is a piece of the puzzle that informed teachers lovingly put together to see a picture of the whole Student
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JillDerosa
Nov 10 @ 8:51 PM EST
Data should always be presented in a conversation that talks about the child not the numbers
#g2great
lywilliams132
Nov 10 @ 8:51 PM EST
#G2Great
#A2
Numerical data can not be the only form of data. We need many types of assessments including self-assessment to evaluate.
CarrieGelson
Nov 10 @ 8:51 PM EST
A2 We have to be confident in our observations especially when “data” doesn’t ring true of that we know about child
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TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 8:51 PM EST
A2 Use numerical data as backup for your knowledge of the Ss, not the other way around
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LeaderandReader
Nov 10 @ 8:51 PM EST
A2: Observations, conferring notes, student products, etc. can help us see the bigger picture. Allow pieces together help inform us
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DrGLK
Nov 10 @ 8:51 PM EST
A2-use triangular data- Ss need to be seen as whole people in multiple contexts. Norm reference tests tend to mark kids for life.
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DrLMaucione
Nov 10 @ 8:51 PM EST
We can look beyond assessment numbers to understand the Ss reading and writing behaviors. This gives a more complete picture.
#G2great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:51 PM EST
I love this!
#G2Great
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 8:48 PM EST
A1 Ss are people. You can't quantify our understanding of something. Informing assessments are important to monitor Ss progress
#g2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:52 PM EST
A3 View it in tandem with authentic student artifacts and learning in action. Data from our learners trump all!
#G2Great
chrisp16
Nov 10 @ 8:52 PM EST
A2: Triangulating data/assmnts for a clearer pic of Ss is needed. You can't rely on one type of data.
#G2great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:52 PM EST
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JillDerosa
Nov 10 @ 8:53 PM EST
Use numerical data as one piece of the puzzle and see how it compares to all the "real time" data we have
#g2great
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 8:53 PM EST
A3: Use data to show S growth: Do NOT use data to SORT or LABEL Ss. Growth mindset; not fixed!
#G2great
donohoe_kitty
Nov 10 @ 8:53 PM EST
I think numerical data can spot a trend but should never be the only source of assessment. Ts have innate wisdom and instinct
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caweippert
Nov 10 @ 8:53 PM EST
A3: Numerical data as part of a larger discussion about student strengths and needs.
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lywilliams132
Nov 10 @ 8:54 PM EST
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A3 I have no idea. And I work for a university. All they care about is numeric data. Anyone have an idea?
EmilyAnnGordon
Nov 10 @ 8:54 PM EST
A3: Ts collaborating & having meaningful discussions on where we are & where we want to go. Not just comparing apples to oranges
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DrGLK
Nov 10 @ 8:54 PM EST
A3 use data to capture trends and patterns.
#G2Great
MrsLisaMc
Nov 10 @ 8:54 PM EST
A3 use numerical data to compare to data from formal & informal assessments but keep daily formative assessment the centerpiece
#G2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:55 PM EST
A3 We begin by acknowledging that it’s an imperfect system. The potential for false positive/negative is always there.
#G2Great
TTMobile_us
Nov 10 @ 8:55 PM EST
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is now trending in USA, ranking 45
CarrieGelson
Nov 10 @ 8:55 PM EST
A3 Use this numerical data to help advocate for support and service but know it is only a snapshot and only a piece
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brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:55 PM EST
The patterns and trends are really what tell the story I could study that data to learn so much about a learner
#G2Great
In reply to @DrGLK
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 8:55 PM EST
A3 One thing NOT to do is use it to divide the classroom up into the "high-level" Ss and the "low-level" Ss
#G2Great
chrisp16
Nov 10 @ 8:56 PM EST
The Power of YET!
#g2great
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 8:53 PM EST
A3: Use data to show S growth: Do NOT use data to SORT or LABEL Ss. Growth mindset; not fixed!
#G2great
vrkimmel
Nov 10 @ 8:56 PM EST
A3 Numerical data informs me about instruction. Best to use it to make instructional vs. defining an individual student.
#G2great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:56 PM EST
it does help to form a picture.
#G2Great
In reply to @EmilyAnnGordon
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 8:56 PM EST
So great to "see" you
@TheSammer88
! Looking forward to seeing you next week in Atlanta
#NCTE16
#G2great
In reply to @TheSammer88
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 8:55 PM EST
A3 One thing NOT to do is use it to divide the classroom up into the "high-level" Ss and the "low-level" Ss
#G2Great
LeaderandReader
Nov 10 @ 8:56 PM EST
A3: Numerical data can be a way to track growth & can be a starting point in identifying strengths/struggles.
#G2Great
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 8:56 PM EST
it happens all too often in school, and all it does is demoralize the "lower level thinkers"
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In reply to @TheSammer88
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:57 PM EST
A3 TRIANGULATE! Never make any decision based on one source of information. HUGE potential for error!
#G2Great
donohoe_kitty
Nov 10 @ 8:57 PM EST
That is a good question. I need to think about that. All U profs should spend time in classroom with little kids.
#G2great
In reply to @lywilliams132
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 8:57 PM EST
I'm so excited! I'm counting down the days to
#NCTE16
! See you there!
#G2Great
#BowTieBoys
In reply to @franmcveigh
donohoe_kitty
Nov 10 @ 8:57 PM EST
#G2great
Yes, you always make sense to me! Great minds think alike! 😊
In reply to @hayhurst3
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:58 PM EST
#G2Great
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:58 PM EST
Yes, I like how you mention it as a starting point, it is the beginning of the story of learner
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In reply to @LeaderandReader
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:58 PM EST
that is something that has to go away.
#G2Great
In reply to @TheSammer88
DrGLK
Nov 10 @ 8:58 PM EST
A3 If data is used in the context of a PLC to inform instruction students should receive the intervention and acceleration needed.
#G2Great
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 8:58 PM EST
One would be surprised at how often it happens, especially at the high school level. You'd think it would be common sense
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lywilliams132
Nov 10 @ 8:57 PM EST
Right?
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 8:55 PM EST
A3 One thing NOT to do is use it to divide the classroom up into the "high-level" Ss and the "low-level" Ss
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:58 PM EST
when we use those terms Sam we are the "low level thinkers" you are so wise.
#G2Great
In reply to @TheSammer88
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 8:58 PM EST
I can't wait either!!
#G2Great
#NCTE16
#BowTieBoys
In reply to @jdsniadecki, @franmcveigh
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:59 PM EST
Q4:
#G2Great
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 8:59 PM EST
A3: Plot data and watch to see those patterns. What is the data story? What is missing?
#G2great
chrisp16
Nov 10 @ 8:59 PM EST
Great minds think alike! Posted that as well! Enjoy the beverages and weather in Hawaii.
#g2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:57 PM EST
A3 TRIANGULATE! Never make any decision based on one source of information. HUGE potential for error!
#G2Great
mindi_r
Nov 10 @ 8:59 PM EST
#g2great
A4: My conferring, my small groups, my kid watching, reading student work, listening to them talk. Those are my tools.
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 8:59 PM EST
I know me too Sam I can't wait either.
#g2Great
In reply to @TheSammer88, @franmcveigh
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:00 PM EST
A4 Definitely running records w/analysis. We can’t teach a reader until we ‘SEE’ their reading process in action.
#G2Great
mollienye72
Nov 10 @ 9:00 PM EST
Having terrible wifi issues tonight😢. I'll catch up with the storify.
#g2great
jdsniadecki
Nov 10 @ 9:00 PM EST
A4: I value my conferring notes most. Then my conversations w/Ss. Then their writing. All more info than numbers.
#G2great
teresagross625
Nov 10 @ 9:00 PM EST
A4: conferences, observations, writing in response to reading (middle school)
#g2great
donohoe_kitty
Nov 10 @ 9:00 PM EST
I value the time I spend listening to my students. I think listening is my greatest tool.
#G2Great
ChrisQuinn64
Nov 10 @ 9:00 PM EST
A3: Should be understood for what it is...a snapshot in time that is part of the overall learning and growth puzzle.
#G2great
teresagross625
Nov 10 @ 9:00 PM EST
Jumping in late. Teresa, MS Literacy Teacher, NY.
#g2great
MrsLisaMc
Nov 10 @ 9:00 PM EST
A4 conferences with Ss on teaching points and application of strategies
#G2great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:00 PM EST
A4 Students actually reading and writing with authenticity
#G2Great
CarrieGelson
Nov 10 @ 9:00 PM EST
A4 My most utilized tool in my tool box? Power of observation I blogged about it here
https://t.co/fMlfEHr6qf
#G2Great
teresagross625
Nov 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
A4: running records for SURE when I worked with younger students.
#g2great
DrGLK
Nov 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
@DrMaryHoward
Progress monitoring - kid watching is a lost art in many classrooms.
#G2Great
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
A4: #1 What the S says in a convo or conf or self reflection; #2 Running Records; #3 Miscue Analysis; and Goal Setting!
#G2great
chrisp16
Nov 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
A4: love the phrase "good judgement". Love running records, BAS, observations, conferring notes,
#G2great
teresagross625
Nov 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
Exactly! Hi friend!
#g2great
In reply to @hayhurst3
DrLMaucione
Nov 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
Sitting side by side w/a student. and listening to the student read and talk about what they've read.
#g2great
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
A4 Every bit of real-world observation helps. You can't get to understand Ss fully while looking at a paper full of numbers
#G2Great
CarrieGelson
Nov 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
A4 The power of observation
https://t.co/6TwmSZoLfM
Trust what we know and what we see everyday
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
Mary in Honolulu - session over just in time to soak in
#G2Great
brilliance. So happy I was able to make at least the last half.
donohoe_kitty
Nov 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
#G2Great
I knew that you did. BC such a good question😊I think all profs should. This is why TC is such a great model.
In reply to @lywilliams132
JillDerosa
Nov 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
Talking and listening to my students, observing their learning and lots of conferencing
#g2great
caweippert
Nov 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
A4: Running records, conferences, writing samples... real text, writing and conversations can't be beat!
#G2Great
teresagross625
Nov 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
A4: been introducing sketching as an option to show "thinking"
#g2great
LeaderandReader
Nov 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
A4: Conferences, conversations, running records, journals, observations...
#G2Great
morales1stgrade
Nov 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
A4 conferring with Ss, running records, listening to kids talk with each other...
#g2great
EmilyAnnGordon
Nov 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
A4: Conferring Notebook, student work samples, informal assessments, progress monitoring, attendance, digital portfolios, etc.
#G2Great
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
A4: Love P David Pearson - The assessment should closely mirror the REAL literacy task (whatever that is)!
#G2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
A4 Anecdotal notes are data in every sense of the word because they are penned in the context of meaningful literacy events.
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
Q4
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
When we step away from the instruction to assess, we miss the richest part of the assessment
#G2Great
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
A4: Love P David Pearson - The assessment should closely mirror the REAL literacy task (whatever that is)!
#G2great
teresagross625
Nov 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
Absolutely. Hi friend!
#g2great
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
CarrieGelson
Nov 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
A4 Love collecting stop and jot notes from a read aloud - shows me so much thinking
#G2great
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
I like it - it allows Ss to open up in a different creative medium than usual
#G2Great
In reply to @teresagross625
teresagross625
Nov 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
Thank you!
#g2great
In reply to @TheSammer88
teresagross625
Nov 10 @ 9:04 PM EST
A5: we had a "book talk" class discussion in Google Classroom today, it was fantastic!
#g2great
lywilliams132
Nov 10 @ 9:04 PM EST
#G2Great
A4 observation and discussion. Do they get it? Do they apply it?
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 9:04 PM EST
There's no better way to get to know a student than by talking to them!
#G2Great
In reply to @DrLMaucione, @DrLMaucione
donohoe_kitty
Nov 10 @ 9:04 PM EST
#G2great
Those work for me. Harder for me to think in numbers, have more an art, and reading brain. Have to use what's best for me.
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
A4 Anecdotal notes are data in every sense of the word because they are penned in the context of meaningful literacy events.
#G2Great
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
A4 I worry we’ve lost respect for kidwatching. Sometimes the best teaching is keeping mouths shut & eyes/ears open
#G2Great
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
#G2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
& it’s thinking that can be applied in so many other ways Sam - which makes it well worth the time to demonstrate & practice
#G2Great
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
I like it - it allows Ss to open up in a different creative medium than usual
#G2Great
In reply to @teresagross625
CarrieGelson
Nov 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
A4 Wandering by book boxes and checking on what they are reading gives me lots of info too!
#G2Great
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
A4: NEED evidence of thinking! Not recitation, not rote facts, but REAL life thinking!
#G2great
teresagross625
Nov 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
That application.....looking at independent reading book.....transfer?
#g2great
In reply to @lywilliams132
teresagross625
Nov 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
Love listening!
#g2great
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
@franmcveigh
I wish I could retweet this multiple times
#G2Great
In reply to @DrMaryHoward, @franmcveigh
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
Q5:
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
Q5
#G2Great
teresagross625
Nov 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
I have a knack for remembering what most of my kids are reading. LOL
#g2great
In reply to @CarrieGelson
MrsMues
Nov 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
Did the students have trouble navigating a discussion in this format?
#G2great
In reply to @teresagross625
CarrieGelson
Nov 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
Yes! Yes! Yes! Just shared this post
https://t.co/6TwmSZoLfM
where I ranted about exactly that
#G2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
A4 I worry we’ve lost respect for kidwatching. Sometimes the best teaching is keeping mouths shut & eyes/ears open
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
So much that’s so far removed from meaningful its no longer recognizable Emily. It must be the goal of EVERY learning experience
#G2Great
EmilyAnnGordon
Nov 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
love how you mentioned "meaningful" literacy tasks!
#authentic
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
ChrisQuinn64
Nov 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
A2: Balanced assessment is key...'for', 'as' and 'of' learning...a much more robust picture of student learning over time.
#G2great
chrisp16
Nov 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
Ts can learn SO much valuable information from a simple task. Pure joy!
#g2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
A4 I worry we’ve lost respect for kidwatching. Sometimes the best teaching is keeping mouths shut & eyes/ears open
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
A5 Running records are of limited value if the person who took them doesn’t analyze them. THAT’S the power!
#G2Great
teresagross625
Nov 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
A5: sketching, gallery walks with post-it notes, responding to prompts on anchor charts
#g2great
EmilyAnnGordon
Nov 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
A4: Some of my favorite conversations are the ones during breakfast as I greet Ss at the door. Love hearing them chat about school!
#G2Great
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
A5: Teach Ss to "self-assess" w/ real targets that Ss understand! Need Ss to know where they are & then build plan to get to goal!
#G2great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
Q5
#G2Great
teresagross625
Nov 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
Very guided today. It takes a lot of modeling, BUT I can talk to all of them and they can interact. Worth it.
#g2great
In reply to @MrsMues
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
And authentic talk rather than an instructional interrogation. Let learning voices rise into the air in glorious celebration!
#G2Great
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 9:04 PM EST
There's no better way to get to know a student than by talking to them!
#G2Great
In reply to @DrLMaucione, @DrLMaucione
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
So true! No drones allowed!
@jdsniadecki
#G2great
In reply to @jdsniadecki
PrincipalNyberg
Nov 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
Funny you should mention that. As an admin, this is one of the barometers I use to determine how things are going :)
#g2great
EmilyAnnGordon
Nov 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
A4: Some of my favorite conversations are the ones during breakfast as I greet Ss at the door. Love hearing them chat about school!
#G2Great
teresagross625
Nov 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
Why even bother? I used to add miscues to PM even when we didn't need to. I want that info!
#g2great
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
JMaricevic1
Nov 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
A4: S
#input
#selfassessments
not about me all about them
#metacognition
@brennanamy
#G2great
#task
#proficiency
#scales
✌🏻️❤️🤔
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
A5 I’m a lifetime member of the University of Curiosity. Our CURIOUS @ kids should drive next step actions.
#G2Great
EmilyAnnGordon
Nov 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
I need to do that more often, one of my goals.
#G2Great
In reply to @CarrieGelson
jdsniadecki
Nov 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
A5: I mostly use writing reflections from Ss. I can tell if they understand by what they write. Using mini lesson ? Knowing ?
#G2great
MrsMues
Nov 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
very cool--I love the idea. What grade level?
#G2great
In reply to @teresagross625
donohoe_kitty
Nov 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
#G2Great
Whatever is happening in the world, I always always love the little Ss hello in the morning all cheery missing front teeth smiles
EmilyAnnGordon
Nov 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
A4: Some of my favorite conversations are the ones during breakfast as I greet Ss at the door. Love hearing them chat about school!
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
And it’s that robust picture over time that has the most potential to point the way for the next step Chris
#G2great
ChrisQuinn64
Nov 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
A2: Balanced assessment is key...'for', 'as' and 'of' learning...a much more robust picture of student learning over time.
#G2great
teresagross625
Nov 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
This was 7th grade.
#g2great
In reply to @MrsMues
JillDerosa
Nov 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
Making sure there are plenty of opportunities for jotting, rich conversation and collaboration to lift the level of thinking
#g2great
PrincipalNyberg
Nov 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
Where can I get one of their sweatshirts? UoC!
#G2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
A5 I’m a lifetime member of the University of Curiosity. Our CURIOUS @ kids should drive next step actions.
#G2Great
LeaderandReader
Nov 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
A5: Analyzing miscues allows us to pinpoint what the next steps for instruction are. Without asking WHY, we can't help with HOW.
#G2Great
QMll_
Nov 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
https://t.co/SnkTPE8xqD
#Superstore
#G2Great
#ARGvBRA
Everybody Knows Inside the NBA Al Michaels Paraguay
CarrieGelson
Nov 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
A5 Stop & jot from prompts, listening in on turn and talk conversation, written reflections, eavesdropping on problem solving teams
#G2great
teresagross625
Nov 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
Exactly.
#g2great
In reply to @LeaderandReader
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
I accept that nomination Lisa :]
#G2Great
MrsLisaMc
Nov 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
you are the Dean of the Univ of Curiousity!
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
ChrisQuinn64
Nov 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
A5:
@Seesaw
has been a great tool for helping to make student thinking visible as part of the development of electronic portfolios.
#G2great
In reply to @Seesaw
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
Hey you you have been tweeting out some amazing work my friend.
#G2Great
In reply to @teresagross625
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
A5 1-1- Conferring WEAVES assessment and instruction within powerful ‘in-the heat of learning moments.’ HUGE!
#G2Great
LeaderandReader
Nov 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
A5: The power of conversation-"What are you thinking? Explain your thinking. Show me what you know."
#G2Great
teresagross625
Nov 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
That means the world coming from you! Thank you! :)
#g2great
In reply to @hayhurst3
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
Love this - not fancy - helpful
#G2Great
donohoe_kitty
Nov 10 @ 8:45 PM EST
@DrMaryHoward
#G2Great
We can learn so much from informal "on the fly" assessment. It doesn't have to be "fancy" to be helpful.
In reply to @hayhurst3, @DrMaryHoward
RitaFluid
Nov 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
A4: running records for SURE when I worked with younger students.
#g2great
MORE >>
https://t.co/ntRMswtTnI
CarrieGelson
Nov 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
A5 My last tweet made me sound like I am a spy But kind of true - spying on the learning as it is happening
#G2great
RitaFluid
Nov 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
Progress monitoring - kid watching is a lost art in many classrooms.
#G2Great
MORE >>
https://t.co/ntRMswtTnI
RitaFluid
Nov 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
A4: love the phrase "good judgement". Love running records, BAS, observations, conferring notes,
#G2great
MORE >>
https://t.co/ntRMswtTnI
RitaFluid
Nov 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
Exactly! Hi friend!
#g2great
MORE >>
https://t.co/ntRMswtTnI
DrGLK
Nov 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
A5 Be clear to students what the learning intentions and success criteria are so they self-monitor and set goals Hattie ES=1.44
#G2Great
lywilliams132
Nov 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
#G2great
A5 I use Interactive Notebooks W/ inquiry based science. I think they are a great assessment tool!
https://t.co/3NCWr3M5jR
Love!
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
#G2Great
ChrisQuinn64
Nov 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
A4: Observations and conversations with students are incredibly valuable tools.
#G2great
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
I like it! When Ss show their thought process, it's much easier to find (and correct) where they went wrong
#G2Great
In reply to @LeaderandReader
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
I would love to meet in person.
#G2Great
Maybe next year... or ILA?
In reply to @mindi_r, @chrisp16
donohoe_kitty
Nov 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
@DrMaryHoward
#G2Great
Thank you Jen. When I try "fancy" too much, I don't get to it.
In reply to @hayhurst3, @DrMaryHoward
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
Yes Geri (and hi friend)!
#G2Great
DrGLK
Nov 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
A5 Be clear to students what the learning intentions and success criteria are so they self-monitor and set goals Hattie ES=1.44
#G2Great
BrytniHord
Nov 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
A5 I like to use a formative assessment activity, slap it down. Students must explain why answers are incorrect!
#G2Great
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
Q6:
#G2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
Fancy is usually for show whereas we need informative - usually means simple!
#G2Great
In reply to @donohoe_kitty, @hayhurst3
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
Keeping an authentic form of communication between Ss and Ts is a great way to pinpoint strengths and weaknesses!
#G2Great
In reply to @ChrisQuinn64
DrGLK
Nov 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
@DrMaryHoward
Hi Mary!
#G2Great
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
right gritty practical on the spot there is beauty in simplicity and elegance in the mess
#G2Great
In reply to @donohoe_kitty, @DrMaryHoward
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
A6 Stay as close to instruction as you can and use it to inspire you to discoveries that will help you understand kids.
#G2Great
fullerenglish
Nov 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
A5- S writing is greatest clarifying tool of what students know, don't know and misunderstood
#G2Great
donohoe_kitty
Nov 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
#G2Great
my favorite too! 🤓
In reply to @EmilyAnnGordon
LeaderandReader
Nov 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
Yes. We have to model this for them, too, so they are able to put their thinking into words.
#G2great
In reply to @TheSammer88
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
I love that Sam. It’s about right or wrong answer, but the thinking that happened along the way. Process over product!
#G2great
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
I like it! When Ss show their thought process, it's much easier to find (and correct) where they went wrong
#G2Great
In reply to @LeaderandReader
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
A6: Can use formative assessment to determine place to start! Then instruction. Small doses of assess to keep on track.
#g2great
CarrieGelson
Nov 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
A6 Slow down the planning Make sure what we are doing tomorrow is informed by needs and skills observed today!
#G2Great
donohoe_kitty
Nov 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
@franmcveigh
#G2Great
My philosophy exactly!
In reply to @franmcveigh
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
A6: Can use formative assessment to determine place to start! Then instruction. Small doses of assess to keep on track.
#g2great
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
A7 Be flexible and FOLLOW Ss!
#G2great
CarrieGelson
Nov 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
A6 Slow down the planning Make sure what we are doing tomorrow is informed by needs and skills observed today!
#G2Great
chrisp16
Nov 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
A6: assessment/data should drive instruction. From miscue analysis Ts can address the needs of the reader.
#G2great
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
That is what it is all about!
#G2great
In reply to @CarrieGelson
MrsLisaMc
Nov 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
A6 they should both be ongoing and show how S learning is progressing - not one big assessment at the end, daily assessment
#G2great
teresagross625
Nov 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
A6: consistent formative assessment, reflect after every lesson, where do I go next?
#g2great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
we have to adjust our view of how we get to the process we can't be afraid to share our mistakes along the way
#G2Great
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
A6 Keeping Ss is engaged is key (whether it be through work or interesting instruction). Straight up lecture is not the way to go
#G2Great
JillDerosa
Nov 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
The best way to assess our students is when they are in the process of real life learning
#g2great
teresagross625
Nov 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
Exactly! Don't plan too far ahead, we don't know what they need!
#g2great
In reply to @CarrieGelson
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
A6 CURIOSITY is our professional POWER POINT because it drives all we do. What are you curious about?
#G2Great
DrGLK
Nov 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
A6 Be a guide on the side, not a sage on the stage. Eavesdrop and take antidotal notes. Circulate.
#G2Great
donohoe_kitty
Nov 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
#G2Great
So true!!!
In reply to @JillDerosa
caweippert
Nov 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
A6: Not about being in assessment mode. Instead, be a guide & notice the next thing that would be "just right" instruction.
#G2Great
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
A6: Assessment and instruction are connected, we need to know where our learners are if expect to advance their learning
#G2great
fullerenglish
Nov 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
A6- frequent formative assessment to check for understanding. Tools like
@nearpod
@Socrative
are gr8 tech tools to aid that synergy
#G2Great
In reply to @nearpod, @Socrative
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
A6 If you constantly work w/ Ss & take time to explain when they need, they're allowed to relax & focus better on the tasks at hand
#G2Great
jdsniadecki
Nov 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
A6: Fun story: sometimes my Ss ask, “This is a QUIZ?” Instruction/Assessm go hand in hand. Sometimes there’s no difference for Ss.
#G2great
LeaderandReader
Nov 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
A6: Should always go hand in hand. Purpose of instruction is learning-have to check for understanding frequently & adjust inst.
#G2Great
lywilliams132
Nov 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
#G2Great
A6 Assessment should inform instruction. Do I need to reteach? Do I need to give challenges? Do I need to differentiate?
Mr__Swanson
Nov 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
A6 The power of running records. Gives Ss time to practice & Ts the ability to assess, confer and model in the moment & IN CONTEXT
#G2Great
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
A6 Love to let Ss teach. They let you know exactly how you sound! AND what you say!
#G2great
teresagross625
Nov 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
Absolutely.
#g2great
In reply to @brennanamy
jdsniadecki
Nov 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
NOOOO lectures! (I’m talking to myself here.) Lowest motivation ever for learning.
#g2great
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
A6 Keeping Ss is engaged is key (whether it be through work or interesting instruction). Straight up lecture is not the way to go
#G2Great
CarrieGelson
Nov 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
A6 Examine your daily practice - when we are “in it” with the kids, we have a solid sense of where to go next
#G2Great
BrytniHord
Nov 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
A6 formative assessment should direct my teaching.
#G2Great
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
Great answers from an amazing student
#G2Great
In reply to @TheSammer88
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
no and pacing is essential mix it up think about the intellectual work you asking for
#G2Great
In reply to @TheSammer88
EmilyAnnGordon
Nov 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
I love journals! Just today was blessed to see a S got the process, just got misorganized & answer didn't line up.
#G2Great
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
😊Thank you.
#G2Great
In reply to @brennanamy
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
That’s the makings of DOUBLE LEARNING - once when we make the mistake and again when we meander our way back along a new path
#G2great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
we have to adjust our view of how we get to the process we can't be afraid to share our mistakes along the way
#G2Great
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
DrGLK
Nov 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
Thanks for a great night! Relatives are in from out of town!!
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
A6 Be present in learning moments that beckon us into action. What do you notice? What do you think? What could you do?
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
Yes yes yes yes yes...
#G2Great
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
A6: Assessment and instruction are connected, we need to know where our learners are if expect to advance their learning
#G2great
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
#G2great
teresagross625
Nov 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
My latest blog post
https://t.co/sqZDEt4jC1
#g2great
JMaricevic1
Nov 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
A6: Ts & Ss begin w the end in mind a joint effortTs need 2 plan & Ss need 2 know why they're doing what they're going
@brennanamy
#G2great
In reply to @brennanamy
CarrieGelson
Nov 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
A6 Let go of the need/pressure to curriculum race and let students direct where we go next
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
yes it always goes back to meaning making all of it
#G2Great
In reply to @LeaderandReader
MrsMues
Nov 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
"think about the intellectual work you're asking for"
#G2great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
no and pacing is essential mix it up think about the intellectual work you asking for
#G2Great
In reply to @TheSammer88
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
Q:7
#G2Great
CarrieGelson
Nov 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
Ye! The being present is essential!
#G2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
A6 Be present in learning moments that beckon us into action. What do you notice? What do you think? What could you do?
#G2Great
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
Thank you for sharing! I am looking forward to reading
#G2great
In reply to @teresagross625
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
A6 Lack of engagement just creates negative energy between Ts and Ss. Ts lose class control and Ss lose trust in the teacher
#G2Great
jdsniadecki
Nov 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
Great chat, my friends. See you next week! Love you all!
#G2great
teresagross625
Nov 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
Wonderful! We are having a blast!
#g2great
In reply to @brennanamy
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
talk to colleagues and use your voice to advocate for students at the center
#G2Great
In reply to @CarrieGelson
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
I couldn’t agree more Amy. The student becomes the teacher & we’re so grateful to be your students!
#G2Great
In reply to @TheSammer88, @brennanamy
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
A7 PAY ATTENTION! We get signs pointing the way all day but we have to notice them 1st.
#G2Great
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
See you next week!
#G2great
In reply to @jdsniadecki
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
#g2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
A6 Be present in learning moments that beckon us into action. What do you notice? What do you think? What could you do?
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
Have fun Geri. Thanks for stopping in!
#G2Great
DrGLK
Nov 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
Thanks for a great night! Relatives are in from out of town!!
#G2Great
CarrieGelson
Nov 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
Me too!
#G2Great
In reply to @brennanamy, @teresagross625
donohoe_kitty
Nov 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
Be mindful of the moment that I am in with Ss. As a T so often planning ahead but being present is so important. Yes to be present
#g2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
Love that Amy. Otherwise, it’s one big guessing game and the outcome is pretty grim.
#G2Great
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
A6: Assessment and instruction are connected, we need to know where our learners are if expect to advance their learning
#G2great
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
I'm grateful that I get this opportunity every Thursday! It's great to connect with all of you
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
I couldn’t agree more Amy. The student becomes the teacher & we’re so grateful to be your students!
#G2Great
In reply to @TheSammer88, @brennanamy
teresagross625
Nov 10 @ 9:23 PM EST
A7: always focusing on the learner and meeting him/her where he/she is
#g2great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:23 PM EST
We are all learning all the time.
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
That’s the makings of DOUBLE LEARNING - once when we make the mistake and again when we meander our way back along a new path
#G2great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
we have to adjust our view of how we get to the process we can't be afraid to share our mistakes along the way
#G2Great
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 9:23 PM EST
A7" look at what is being assessed carefully. Is it imp enough and worthy of S time, energy and work? Think! Don't Just Assess!
#G2great
lywilliams132
Nov 10 @ 9:23 PM EST
#G2Great
A7 I am in a different role than many of you, but I will ask my students "Are you getting what you need?"
teresagross625
Nov 10 @ 9:23 PM EST
So happy I could join in tonight, no school tomorrow! Have a wonderful evening!
#g2great
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
Allowing Ss to teach forces them to focus on the curriculum in a new way. No better way to learn than to teach!
#G2Great
In reply to @franmcveigh
caweippert
Nov 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
A7: Continue to stress TRIANGULATION & data conversations. Never lose sight of power of informal assessments.
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:25 PM EST
A7 Elevate the role of self-evaluation (Hattie). It’s amazing what we learn when we make kids part of the process.
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:25 PM EST
And learning time lost is gone forever! You’re right Sam, engagement is HUGE!
#G2Great
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
A6 Lack of engagement just creates negative energy between Ts and Ss. Ts lose class control and Ss lose trust in the teacher
#G2Great
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 9:25 PM EST
And what a great way to "see" what Ss really know!
@TheSammer88
#G2great
In reply to @TheSammer88
MrsMues
Nov 10 @ 9:25 PM EST
Thanks to
@DrMaryHoward
@brennanamy
and
@hayhurst3
for another great
#g2great
chat!
In reply to @DrMaryHoward, @brennanamy, @hayhurst3
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:25 PM EST
I started my professional learning communities today with having an attitude of gratitude:
https://t.co/DGAxZGiVUi
#G2Great
In reply to @TheSammer88
donohoe_kitty
Nov 10 @ 9:25 PM EST
#G2Great
So true Sam.
In reply to @TheSammer88
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:26 PM EST
Grateful from this side too Sam! So excited to finally meet you in person at NCTE next week!
#G2Great
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
I'm grateful that I get this opportunity every Thursday! It's great to connect with all of you
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
I couldn’t agree more Amy. The student becomes the teacher & we’re so grateful to be your students!
#G2Great
In reply to @TheSammer88, @brennanamy
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:26 PM EST
Thanks so much for joining us!
#G2Great
MrsMues
Nov 10 @ 9:25 PM EST
Thanks to
@DrMaryHoward
@brennanamy
and
@hayhurst3
for another great
#g2great
chat!
In reply to @DrMaryHoward, @brennanamy, @hayhurst3
CarrieGelson
Nov 10 @ 9:26 PM EST
A7 Feel confident to put relationships first - listen and watch not judge and count
#G2great
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 9:26 PM EST
Should not be 'allowing' as it's the Ss classroom. For REAL!
@TheSammer88
#G2great
In reply to @TheSammer88
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:26 PM EST
Purpose is a pretty good rule of thumb in all we do isn’t it Fran?
#G2Great
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 9:23 PM EST
A7" look at what is being assessed carefully. Is it imp enough and worthy of S time, energy and work? Think! Don't Just Assess!
#G2great
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 9:26 PM EST
Sometimes it's necessary to let the original class structure fall and sharpen whatever needs work
#G2Great
In reply to @donohoe_kitty
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
A7 Do action research to created focused explorations in the trenches. see Matt
@ReadByExample
https://t.co/cgXU8hPiZn
#G2Great
In reply to @ReadByExample
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
Thank you for sharing your voice tonight.
#g2Great
we are
#bettertogether
In reply to @MrsMues, @DrMaryHoward, @brennanamy
donohoe_kitty
Nov 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
#G2Great
Yes, thank you all. This is such a cheery spot in our world for me.
@franmcveigh
In reply to @MrsMues, @DrMaryHoward, @brennanamy, @hayhurst3, @franmcveigh
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
Only a week away!
#G2Great
#NCTE16
#BowTieBoys
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
And what a great way for the teacher to be a fly on the wall and see learning from the inside out!
#G2Great
Assessment at it’s best!
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
Allowing Ss to teach forces them to focus on the curriculum in a new way. No better way to learn than to teach!
#G2Great
In reply to @franmcveigh
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
Love all that we learn from Hattie. Really so powerful.
#G2great
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
donohoe_kitty
Nov 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
#G2Great
I agree completely. Student driven is so important!
In reply to @TheSammer88
LeaderandReader
Nov 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
This has been a great chat! Thanks to all for helping me reflect, learn, and grow tonight! Feeling energized!
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
you make me smile
@donohoe_kitty
#G2Great
In reply to @donohoe_kitty, @MrsMues, @DrMaryHoward, @brennanamy, @franmcveigh, @donohoe_kitty
MrsLisaMc
Nov 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
A7 never lose sight that a S is much more than a number, our daily interactions should guide the way
#G2great
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
Words of Wisdom
#G2great
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
Love this Jenn! Great way to start a day of collaborative learning.
#G2great
In reply to @hayhurst3, @TheSammer88
franmcveigh
Nov 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
TY
@DrMaryHoward
@hayhurst3
@brennanamy
$o
re-energized for the third Fri. of this wk! THANKS all friends here! LOL
#G2great
1 wk
#NCTE16
In reply to @DrMaryHoward, @hayhurst3, @brennanamy
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
We need all the cheery we can get Kitty!
#G2Great
donohoe_kitty
Nov 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
#G2Great
Yes, thank you all. This is such a cheery spot in our world for me.
@franmcveigh
In reply to @MrsMues, @DrMaryHoward, @brennanamy, @hayhurst3, @franmcveigh
CarrieGelson
Nov 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
:-)
#G2great
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
Words of Wisdom
#G2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
Your
#G2Great
co moderators will be tweet from
#NCTE16
next week - from our inspirations to you! See you Dec 1 (& Happy Thanksgiving)
lywilliams132
Nov 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
#G2Great
Thank you for the great
#edhcat
Love growing with my PLN! Terrific people on this terrific chat!
TheSammer88
Nov 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
A7 Assessment for the sake of assessment sets up a very uninviting classroom. Make sure work has purpose. Busy work is off-putting
#G2Great
brennanamy
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
Great to have you as part of our
#G2Great
PLN
In reply to @lywilliams132
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
Please join
#G2Great
for part 3 of our series after the Thanksgiving break. Email REMIND
https://t.co/dg8vobPaXs