#sblchat Archive
Wednesday March 16, 2016
9:00 PM EDT
haikulearning
Mar 16 @ 9:00 PM EDT
The Perils of Averages in Standards-Based Grading
#sblchat
https://t.co/0l5MruOjMo
https://t.co/cyDNwNdaY5
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Rik in MA, as a facilitator of
#hsMath
, here to assist
@garnet_hillman
in the moderation of our
#sblchat
. Let the sharing begin!
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Good evening and welcome to
#sblchat
! We will be discussing Sound Assessment Practices tonight. Please start intros...
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:01 PM EDT
I'm Garnet, an instructional coach from IL, happy to co-moderate this evening with the wonderful
@RoweRikW
!
#sblchat
Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Hey
#sblchat
- I'm Shari, a HS English teacher in NJ
jentealteach
Mar 16 @ 9:01 PM EDT
HS ELA teacher from MI here ... glad, as always, to join
#sblchat
tonight!
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:01 PM EDT
@Mrs_Krapels
Hi Shari!
#sblchat
mromero0717
Mar 16 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Melissa in MO, HS English
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RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:01 PM EDT
@Mrs_Krapels
Happy to see you Shari!
#sblchat
NicoleVagle
Mar 16 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Hello! Nicole Dimich Vagle from Minneapolis, MN! Excited to join tonight!
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:01 PM EDT
@jentealteach
Good evening Jen!
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Mar 16 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Megan, HS Math teacher from west suburbs of Chicago. Happy to join
#sblchat
tonight. Looking forward to learning and sharing.
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:01 PM EDT
@mromero0717
Hi Melissa!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:01 PM EDT
@NicoleVagle
Welcome Nicole. Ready?
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:01 PM EDT
@NicoleVagle
Thrilled that you can join us tonight Nicole!
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:02 PM EDT
We have seven questions for your consideration and discussion tonight. Please answer with A1, A2, etc. and don't forget
#sblchat
!
PrincipalSteveA
Mar 16 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Greetings from Richmond Indiana! Excited for our conversation about assessment!
#sblchat
Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
Happy to be back!
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@MeganCMoMo
Hi Megan!
#sblchat
efpawlak
Mar 16 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Emmie in IL, Dir. of Teach and Learn. Always want better assessments
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@MeganCMoMo
Pleased to share with you in
#sblchat
tonight, Megan.
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@PrincipalSteveA
Good evening Steve!
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@efpawlak
Hi Emmie!
#sblchat
CHS_Morris
Mar 16 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Logan from Neb. I'll be lurking a bit
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@PrincipalSteveA
Steve, he are pleased for you to join our
#sblchat
Crew tonight!
brettdimmer
Mar 16 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Brett, music/band from WI
#SBLchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@CHS_Morris
Feel free to join in!
#sblchat
MrKrapels
Mar 16 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Jeff, HS English from Northern NJ
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@efpawlak
Emmie, Welcome!
#sblchat
j_ozbolt
Mar 16 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Jason H.S. dean for IL
#sblchat
NoviAcademics
Mar 16 @ 9:03 PM EDT
RJ from MI
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@CHS_Morris
Lurk away, Logan!
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@brettdimmer
Glad to have you with us Brett!
#sblchat
MrSeanDuBe
Mar 16 @ 9:03 PM EDT
High School Language Arts. Searching for ways to develop more effective assessments and to include
#stuvoice
in the creation.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@MrKrapels
Hi Jeff!
#sblchat
Jodid2
Mar 16 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Good evening,
#sblchat
. I'm Jodi. Middle school educator in Calgary.
efpawlak
Mar 16 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@brettdimmer
working with my band director on assessments currently! Great work!
#sblchat
BradLatzke
Mar 16 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Brad in Bangkok joining
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@brettdimmer
So happy to see our Brett here!
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@j_ozbolt
Hey there friend! We will work out a time to chat soon.
#sblchat
Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Excited to see so many English/ELA teachers in tonight's chat!
#sblchat
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Doug from Boston
#sblchat
https://t.co/9td2zVw02X
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@NoviAcademics
Good evening RJ!
#sblchat
DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Dave - HS SS in Iowa joining
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@MrKrapels
Greetings, Jeff!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Like this tweet if you are new to
#sblchat
so we can welcome you to our Crew.
@garnet_hillman
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@MrSeanDuBe
Love it Sean...let's do some brainstorming tonight!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@NoviAcademics
Welcome RJ!
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@Jodid2
Hi Jodi!
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@BradLatzke
Thanks for joining us Brad!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Me too! Let's hope I can keep up!
#sblchat
https://t.co/V46Patmr4D
MrKrapels
Mar 16 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
Hello! Looking forward to tonight's chat.
PrincipalSteveA
Mar 16 @ 9:04 PM EDT
One of my PE Ts is looking to connect with another PE T who has implemented SBG. Any help would be appreciated
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@DouglasReeves
Good evening Doug - thanks for sharing your insight!
#sblchat
GNiklasch
Mar 16 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Gary PE teacher from Michigan
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@Jodid2
Hi Jodi. Welcome!
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@DRich0696
Hey there Dave!
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Q1 What is the purpose of assessment?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@BradLatzke
Pleased to see you, Brad.
#sblchat
D4N4K
Mar 16 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Dana 5/6 computer teacher from MI
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@DouglasReeves
Yes, another Bostonian!
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@PrincipalSteveA
I have one! If you would DM me an email I am happy to connect you!
#sblchat
CHS_Morris
Mar 16 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A1: to see student learning and to be able to demonstrate it in their own way.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@DRich0696
Dave, I was hoping you would be here!
#sblchat
efpawlak
Mar 16 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A1; what did the Ss learn so I know where/what to teach tomorrow/next day
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:06 PM EDT
A1 - When we assess, we engage in a conversation to unite our thinking and learning toward the Goal/Target
#Feedback
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:06 PM EDT
A1 Assessment should guide feedback, future instruction as well as future practice. It is a conversation with students.
#sblchat
j_ozbolt
Mar 16 @ 9:06 PM EDT
A1: To know where a Ss learning is at at a given pt in time
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:06 PM EDT
A1 - Assessment = Two-way Feedback
#sblchat
MrKrapels
Mar 16 @ 9:06 PM EDT
A1: Assessment is a reflection of what Ss know--what are their skills. Formative is practice, summative is "the game"
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@D4N4K
Welcome Dana!
#sblchat
jentealteach
Mar 16 @ 9:06 PM EDT
A1: S and T reflection, planning for next steps, goal-setting, celebration of learning
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@GNiklasch
Glad to see you again in
#sblchat
tonight, Gary!
Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:06 PM EDT
A1: assessment is best viewed as a demonstration of S learning - a way to find spots for troubleshooting & feedback
#sblchat
DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:06 PM EDT
A1: To move us on to DuFour's questions 3 & 4 - What do we do if they don't "get it" and what do we do if the already do "get it"
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@D4N4K
Welcome Dana!
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1 Assessment should be infused into the learning process to guide learning, not seen as a separate entity.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1 - When we assess, we experience collaborative and iterative feedback that aligns our thinking and instruction.
#Feedback
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:07 PM EDT
#MakeLearningPersonal
#sblchat
https://t.co/Bj2vkdsu9t
CHS_Morris
Mar 16 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A1: to see student learning and to be able to demonstrate it in their own way.
#sblchat
PrincipalSteveA
Mar 16 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1 - Assessment is a measurement of learning
#sblchat
KellyNPipes
Mar 16 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Discovering what Ss know about the standards
#sblchat
NicoleVagle
Mar 16 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1: gather information on student learning -- strengths, next steps
#sblchat
GNiklasch
Mar 16 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Back at you
@RoweRikW
#sblchat
https://t.co/GkKyxNwbqt
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@GNiklasch
Glad to see you again in
#sblchat
tonight, Gary!
kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1 The primary purpose of assessment should be to gather information to inform teaching and learning to make both better.
#sblchat
.
D4N4K
Mar 16 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1: Ss demonstrate learning, teacher knowing where to guide the learning next
#sblchat
KellyNPipes
Mar 16 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Oh, Kelly, bio, from NC
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@kenoc7
Hi Ken! Thanks for joining us.
#sblchat
brettdimmer
Mar 16 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1
#SBLchat
to determine the current status of a skill & plan for future learning
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:08 PM EDT
RT Q1 What is the purpose of assessment?
#sblchat
Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:08 PM EDT
The "next steps" are so key - assessment isn't an END - it's a new beginning
#sblchat
https://t.co/KKhUpZLJKh
NicoleVagle
Mar 16 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1: gather information on student learning -- strengths, next steps
#sblchat
MrSeanDuBe
Mar 16 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1 To determine the level of understanding a student has on a specific skill. To communicate learning and guide instruction
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@KellyNPipes
Welcome Kelly!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Next Steps are HUGE...
#sblchat
https://t.co/GRzWuz4a0I
NicoleVagle
Mar 16 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1: gather information on student learning -- strengths, next steps
#sblchat
NicoleVagle
Mar 16 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: Assessment serves multiple purposes and determining purpose is huge...
#sblchat
kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Ken O’Connor joining late and intermittently from central FL.
#sblchat
lcannon21
Mar 16 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Lisa SS teacher in FL, trying to learn more about the topic. Thank you!
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Mar 16 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: To determine where learners are in the process of learning. This directly determines the next steps for the teacher & learner.
#sblchat
Jodid2
Mar 16 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: it's a communication piece to ensure that Ss know where they are at & where they're going & to inform our teaching.
#sblchat
WampusRat
Mar 16 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: Assess current level of proficiency of each individual student in relation to specific Learning Target (s).
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@lcannon21
Welcome Lisa! Let us know how we can support you in your learning.
#sblchat
BradLatzke
Mar 16 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 Outside of
#sblchat
, many would define assessment in a summative context to provide a grade.
geradcarrier
Mar 16 @ 9:09 PM EDT
#sblchat
A#1: to monitor learning progress towards a learning standard.
jamesmcguire85
Mar 16 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Jamie from WI here tonight. MS ss teacher. Glad to see everyone!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@kenoc7
Grateful to have you in
#sblchat
tonight, Ken!
Jodid2
Mar 16 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
yes, a conversation - an important distinction from using it as a ranking/sorting tool.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@BradLatzke
Very true Brad...it is time to change that paradigm!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@lcannon21
Lisa, Welcome!
#sblchat
GNiklasch
Mar 16 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 Assessments create growth
#sblchat
TeachingFactor
Mar 16 @ 9:09 PM EDT
#sblchat
#XPlap
Save the date
#istelitchat
Sunday 3/20 9pm est discussing
#edcamps
revolutionizing education
https://t.co/JUapcbguuC
kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 The primary purpose of assessment should NOT be to sort and select and determine grades.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@jamesmcguire85
Hi Jamie!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Mutual benefit...
#sblchat
https://t.co/NSPSuOtkM8
MeganCMoMo
Mar 16 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: To determine where learners are in the process of learning. This directly determines the next steps for the teacher & learner.
#sblchat
Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:10 PM EDT
.
@BradLatzke
So much is lost using that mindset - so many missed opportunities
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:10 PM EDT
#STOPIT
#sblchat
https://t.co/gxIc3C6vsl
BradLatzke
Mar 16 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 Outside of
#sblchat
, many would define assessment in a summative context to provide a grade.
MrSeanDuBe
Mar 16 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1 The communication of learning about a skill or standard to both parents/guardians and students. It should guide student goals.
#sblchat
NicoleVagle
Mar 16 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@GNiklasch
YES! Love this. So dependent on how that assessment is used by tchrs & stats. If growth is the purpose, action follows.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Thank you...
#sblchat
https://t.co/gbpa53B48r
kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 The primary purpose of assessment should NOT be to sort and select and determine grades.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Yes! Assessment is about learning, not grading, sorting, or ranking.
#sblchat
https://t.co/50x1CfPjNd
kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 The primary purpose of assessment should NOT be to sort and select and determine grades.
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Mar 16 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@MrKrapels
I used to plan wks in advance.Convenient but not appropriate for learners best interest. FA changes everything daily
#sblchat
jamesmcguire85
Mar 16 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: to take a snapshot of where someone is in their learning at a specific time.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Nodding...
#sblchat
https://t.co/aybgByZJAe
MeganCMoMo
Mar 16 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@MrKrapels
I used to plan wks in advance.Convenient but not appropriate for learners best interest. FA changes everything daily
#sblchat
efpawlak
Mar 16 @ 9:11 PM EDT
And if it's not, you might want to rethink your processes!
#sblchat
https://t.co/E24w8xQOGb
MeganCMoMo
Mar 16 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@MrKrapels
I used to plan wks in advance.Convenient but not appropriate for learners best interest. FA changes everything daily
#sblchat
Jodid2
Mar 16 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@DRich0696
What's the DuFour reference here, Dave? Apparently I've omitted reading his work.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Q2 What makes an assessment of learning effective?
#sblchat
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@MeganCMoMo
observes an important tension between the planning demanded by teacher eval instruments and essential flexibility.
#sblchat
mromero0717
Mar 16 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Specific time - because it could be different in 2 days, 2 weeks, 2 months.
#sblchat
https://t.co/eMiahWp2Oh
jamesmcguire85
Mar 16 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: to take a snapshot of where someone is in their learning at a specific time.
#sblchat
CHS_Morris
Mar 16 @ 9:12 PM EDT
For English teachers:
https://t.co/GL3OjcfB5o
has some great features, but is pricey. Any free alternatives?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:12 PM EDT
#HereWeGrow
#sblchat
https://t.co/jkLiCF0YDj
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Q2 What makes an assessment of learning effective?
#sblchat
MrKrapels
Mar 16 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@MeganCMoMo
FA can take many forms too---important to use lots of measures for checking S understanding.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@Jodid2
Here is a link to the questions:
https://t.co/6e4tJI6icl
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2 - An assessment of learning is effective when we realize any misunderstandings and respond correctly.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2 - An assessment of learning is effective when our collaborative feedback draws us closer to our Target or Goal.
#sblchat
CHS_Morris
Mar 16 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2: students walk away with a desire to improve their educational experience.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2 Assessment is effective when it gives valuable information (evidence of learning) to both students and instructors.
#sblchat
Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2: assessments must actually assess what's being learned - SKILLS based, not memorization
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:13 PM EDT
So Huge...
#sblchat
https://t.co/YmvBHj4pQl
CHS_Morris
Mar 16 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2: students walk away with a desire to improve their educational experience.
#sblchat
kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2 When it provides actionable information for teachers and students to improve.
#sblchat
Link_pd
Mar 16 @ 9:13 PM EDT
#Ss
can articulate their next steps
#sblchat
WaltKozlowski
Mar 16 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1: Gather evidence of learning & determine what comes next.
#sblchat
NoviAcademics
Mar 16 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2 What we do with it...
#sblchat
jentealteach
Mar 16 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2:Effective=allows Ss and T to know where proficiency has been achieved and where growth is still needed.
#sblchat
BradLatzke
Mar 16 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2 Effective assessment provides feedback on present learning & guide to future learning.
#sblchat
Jodid2
Mar 16 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
Wonderful. Thanks!
#sblchat
NicoleVagle
Mar 16 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2:Clear connection btw the stat work (items/tasks) & learning. What meaning do students make when they get an assessment "back"?
#sblchat
geradcarrier
Mar 16 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2 The degree to which it is aligned to the learning standard
#sblchat
mromero0717
Mar 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
HA! You mean I can't memorize what I need for the assessment 5 minutes before class?
#sblchat
#lovethis
https://t.co/QLq2eEWbkh
Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2: assessments must actually assess what's being learned - SKILLS based, not memorization
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2 Assessment tools are effective when they are standards aligned and allow students to show varied proficiency levels.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2 - An assessment of learning is effective when it reveals what we should not be doing and aligns to the correct path.
#sblchat
j_ozbolt
Mar 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2: Aligned to standards with multiple ways for Ss to show proficiency
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
We need to take action...otherwise why did we assess?
#sblchat
https://t.co/K08IW653xG
kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2 When it provides actionable information for teachers and students to improve.
#sblchat
MrKrapels
Mar 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2: Assessment is only effective when it's authentic. Ss replicating real-world tasks, having some choice, & being invested
#sblchat
DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@Jodid2
It's based on PLC workings take a look at
https://t.co/4pTWtEffkM
#sblchat
kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Definitely this too.
#sblchat
https://t.co/2bdnkhaYcP
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2 Assessment tools are effective when they are standards aligned and allow students to show varied proficiency levels.
#sblchat
efpawlak
Mar 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2: What happens with the results is what makes it effective.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Deep...
#sblchat
https://t.co/rRUXGEKKT9
MrKrapels
Mar 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2: Assessment is only effective when it's authentic. Ss replicating real-world tasks, having some choice, & being invested
#sblchat
Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Haha - nope! To borrow from
@RoweRikW
-
#STOPIT
#sblchat
https://t.co/5kZGdpQbqF
mromero0717
Mar 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
HA! You mean I can't memorize what I need for the assessment 5 minutes before class?
#sblchat
#lovethis
https://t.co/QLq2eEWbkh
Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2: assessments must actually assess what's being learned - SKILLS based, not memorization
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Mar 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@DouglasReeves
YES! I do plan some but it's an outline-nothing is permanent. Admin wants plans in adv to observe, i can only smile
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Jodid2
Mar 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@MeganCMoMo
yes! Well said!
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:15 PM EDT
RT Q2 What makes an assessment of learning effective?
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RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Honored...
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https://t.co/l292tnH6ZD
Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Haha - nope! To borrow from
@RoweRikW
-
#STOPIT
#sblchat
https://t.co/5kZGdpQbqF
mromero0717
Mar 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
HA! You mean I can't memorize what I need for the assessment 5 minutes before class?
#sblchat
#lovethis
https://t.co/QLq2eEWbkh
Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2: assessments must actually assess what's being learned - SKILLS based, not memorization
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NicoleVagle
Mar 16 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2: When students reflect on the assessment and can determine strengths in terms of learning
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brettdimmer
Mar 16 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2
#SBLchat
Encourages future learning, gives accurate snapshot of current status
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
We’ve been talking about assessment for learning for more than 20 years - why is it still so challenging?
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WaltKozlowski
Mar 16 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2: Alignment to standards & carefully crafted to avoid false positives.
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DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2: If it tells us what we want to know AND if we take the appropriate actions as a result.
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jentealteach
Mar 16 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@WaltKozlowski
Love the phrase "false positives." I wonder how often traditional grading produces "false negatives" ...
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DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@WaltKozlowski
Really thoughtful point - “false positives” have greater risk to students than false negatives.
#sblchat
mromero0717
Mar 16 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@NicoleVagle
I've layered in the reflection piece some this year and it has been a game changer.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@DouglasReeves
Great question. Do some not realize the power in the assessment process?
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RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Learning to adapt...
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https://t.co/KJvkem479y
DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2: If it tells us what we want to know AND if we take the appropriate actions as a result.
#sblchat
D4N4K
Mar 16 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2: it's only effective if the learning continues beyond the assessment
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Link_pd
Mar 16 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2 S & T growth and learning occurs w/effective assessments. Next steps happen.
#sblchat
Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Both of those requirements are ESSENTIAL
#sblchat
https://t.co/zVZTLD5QyZ
DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2: If it tells us what we want to know AND if we take the appropriate actions as a result.
#sblchat
PrincipalSteveA
Mar 16 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q2 opportunity for feedback on authentic content standards informing where Ss are and where Ss need to go
#sblchat
GNiklasch
Mar 16 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2 Open ended questioning with rigor that includes analysis and synthesis of information.
#sblchat
WaltKozlowski
Mar 16 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Sorry. Joined late. Walt, from SE Michigan.
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MeganCMoMo
Mar 16 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2: Assmnt of learning is ONLY effective if both T & S can develop the next steps.Ss need help with this step, and so might some Ts
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DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@MrKrapels
There is none - we're doing it just to know. that might help me but not the students.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@WaltKozlowski
Walter, we have been waiting for you! Jump in.
#sblchat
MrKrapels
Mar 16 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@MeganCMoMo
I really like to ask Ss their feedback on assessments. Helps to fine-tune for next year.
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Mar 16 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@MrKrapels
Helps me make the next assessment for this year better too
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MrSeanDuBe
Mar 16 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 Application of the standards to new situations, choice and voice in assessment, quality questions, higher-order thinking.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@NicoleVagle
@DouglasReeves
Never enough time, but with effective assessment practices we save time!
#sblchat
Jodid2
Mar 16 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: it's effectively when we actually use the information to inform our teaching & when Ss see their strengths & areas for growth.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@MrKrapels
@MeganCMoMo
Asked our Learners today if our assessment was effective and why...
#sblchat
Jodid2
Mar 16 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@DRich0696
Thanks.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:18 PM EDT
BAM!
#sblchat
https://t.co/J5T6UxQ21j
MrSeanDuBe
Mar 16 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 Application of the standards to new situations, choice and voice in assessment, quality questions, higher-order thinking.
#sblchat
21stCenPrinKW
Mar 16 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2. Relevance is key to effectively assessing Ss.
#sblchat
https://t.co/YalgqQ27XY
MrKrapels
Mar 16 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@MeganCMoMo
Exactly. Ts need to be models of constant improvement so that Ss develop reflective behaviors. Model, model, model.
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Mar 16 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@DouglasReeves
@garnet_hillman
I did not have quality preservice training on effective assessment
#sblchat
#thatneedstochange
Jodid2
Mar 16 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
To rank and sort, of course! *cringe*
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@NicoleVagle
@DouglasReeves
Another consideration - I was never trained in sound assessment practices in undergrad or grad work.
#sblchat
MrKrapels
Mar 16 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
@MeganCMoMo
One of the best comments I've heard from Ss is "that was a really good test"
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:20 PM EDT
So confirming...
#sblchat
https://t.co/w9Oe390EnU
MrKrapels
Mar 16 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
@MeganCMoMo
One of the best comments I've heard from Ss is "that was a really good test"
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Q3 When crafting assessment tools, what is the first step?
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CHS_Morris
Mar 16 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
@NicoleVagle
@DouglasReeves
Not sure this is taught at many colleges, unfortunately.
#sblchat
21stCenPrinKW
Mar 16 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2 S ownership of the outcome by reflection
#sblchat
https://t.co/JI5DCK96iY
DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Did anyone? We did it how it was "done to us" and that was not good.
#sblchat
https://t.co/77LUUaw3jJ
MeganCMoMo
Mar 16 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@DouglasReeves
@garnet_hillman
I did not have quality preservice training on effective assessment
#sblchat
#thatneedstochange
MrKrapels
Mar 16 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
@NicoleVagle
@DouglasReeves
So frustrating. There is a real need for Ts to get good PD in assessment design
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daveschmittou
Mar 16 @ 9:20 PM EDT
if the assessment does not directly impact the student taking it, one must question its importance
#sblchat
#education
kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@MeganCMoMo
@DouglasReeves
@garnet_hillman
Did anyone here have "quality preservice training on effective assessment?”
#sblchat
I didn’t!!!
PLloydHenry
Mar 16 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: effective assessment of learning is relevant, authentic & meaningful
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Link_pd
Mar 16 @ 9:20 PM EDT
This is great modeling & how we grow and get better along w/our Ss!!
#moedchat
#sblchat
https://t.co/GnR5Uv4zbS
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@MrKrapels
@MeganCMoMo
Asked our Learners today if our assessment was effective and why...
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Really appreciate it when our Learners say "this assessment really made me think..."
#sblchat
https://t.co/w9Oe390EnU
MrKrapels
Mar 16 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
@MeganCMoMo
One of the best comments I've heard from Ss is "that was a really good test"
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 16 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Good evening
#sblchat
So excited for this chat. Mandi from MO, HS Math
CHS_Morris
Mar 16 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A3: What do I want students to learn, and answer the why.
#sblchat
WaltKozlowski
Mar 16 @ 9:20 PM EDT
All of "the good stuff"! 👍
#sblchat
https://t.co/WKun170rlj
MrSeanDuBe
Mar 16 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 Application of the standards to new situations, choice and voice in assessment, quality questions, higher-order thinking.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A3 Determining which standards or learning targets the assessment will address is the first step. Begin with the end in mind!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A3 - Our first step in crafting tools to assess is to make it as immediate as possible to align the learning quickly.
#sblchat
Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A3: First Ts must ask, "What do I want them to know?" then "How can then show me?"
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
Mandi, pleased to have you to share with us in
#sblchat
tonight!
MrKrapels
Mar 16 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A3: Ts---START with assessment tools. If you don't know where you're headed, then the assessment is less effective. Work backwards
#sblchat
DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A3: What standards to I want to measure?
#sblchat
Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Backward planning FTW
#sblchat
https://t.co/SVW99N75WP
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A3 Determining which standards or learning targets the assessment will address is the first step. Begin with the end in mind!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Our "why" is HUGE...
#sblchat
https://t.co/ZgnsHuCCZy
CHS_Morris
Mar 16 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A3: What do I want students to learn, and answer the why.
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AceThatTest
Mar 16 @ 9:21 PM EDT
We're late to the party
#sblchat
, but has anyone mentioned the testing effect yet? I.e. that the act of taking assessment creates learning?
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@kenoc7
@MeganCMoMo
@DouglasReeves
Nope. I have now that I sought it out & determined it was essential to my growth as an eductor.
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PrincipalSteveA
Mar 16 @ 9:21 PM EDT
I always wonder how much of a Ts assessment strategies look like the assessments they experienced in school.
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D4N4K
Mar 16 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A3: design with the end in mind
#UbD
#sblchat
ChrisRugg
Mar 16 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Chris from IL.
#sblchat
. Late but glad to be here.
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:21 PM EDT
BAM!
#sblchat
https://t.co/AMZNl5i12H
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A3 Determining which standards or learning targets the assessment will address is the first step. Begin with the end in mind!
#sblchat
BradLatzke
Mar 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@kenoc7
@MeganCMoMo
@DouglasReeves
@garnet_hillman
I'll be asking my daughter about AFL. She's going to be ES teacher.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A3 - We assess daily with Green, Yellow & Red cups. We assess as we communicate verbally about our learning.
#Constant
#Feedback
#sblchat
j_ozbolt
Mar 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A3: Think about Ss 1st and how they can show what they know alligned to standards
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Mar 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@DRich0696
And "that's how it was for me in school" is the same terrible reason that Ts and Ps use when they argue against SBG.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@ChrisRugg
Hi there Chris, glad you are joining us!
#sblchat
jentealteach
Mar 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A3: Considering what standard(s) needs to be assessed and the ways (multiple) in which Ss could demonstrate proficiency.
#sblchat
CHS_Morris
Mar 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
If we can't answer the why, why would we expect students to know?
#sblchat
Jodid2
Mar 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@DRich0696
Taking action should be the obvious but it's not always. Our pride, stubbornness & previous planning can get in the way.
#sblchat
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@21stCenPrinKW
Thanks for raising the relevance issue - I’m struggling with this, especially as I encourage creative pursuits.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Hmmm...
#sblchat
https://t.co/n85l2ZLSnM
PrincipalSteveA
Mar 16 @ 9:21 PM EDT
I always wonder how much of a Ts assessment strategies look like the assessments they experienced in school.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Thank you.
#sblchat
https://t.co/4LGSGCRxO9
CHS_Morris
Mar 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
If we can't answer the why, why would we expect students to know?
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A3: Know what standards you need to assess and any learning targets inside the standards to address.
#sblchat
DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@MeganCMoMo
Exactly!
#fixedmindset
#sblchat
AceThatTest
Mar 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A3: When crafting an assessment tool, first think about what skills/knowledge you want Ss to come away with from your class
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A3 - We assess with: > Red, Yellow Green cups > Verbally > Chromebooks > Learner facilitation > Paper and pencil > Yes, All!
#sblchat
NicoleVagle
Mar 16 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A3: Deciding what learning is to be assessed & what kind of engagement or authentic context can ground meaningful items & tasks.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:23 PM EDT
RT Q3 When crafting assessment tools, what is the first step?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@ChrisRugg
Chris, Welcome! How was the basketball game?
#sblchat
MrSeanDuBe
Mar 16 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A3 What standards do I want my students to demonstrate on said assessment? Develop the assessment based on vigorous standards.
#sblchat
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Re: Pre-service assessment training - see my new post on training for sports officials - FAR more than classroom assessment.
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Mar 16 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A3: Identifying the standard that needs to be assessed it the 1st step. Then determine the type of assessment to use.
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 16 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Great point. The assessment doesn't have to be a test.
#sblchat
https://t.co/BYdE7d1dfE
j_ozbolt
Mar 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A3: Think about Ss 1st and how they can show what they know alligned to standards
#sblchat
PLloydHenry
Mar 16 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@PrincipalSteveA
apparently we teach & assess the way we were - in spite of anything we learn in pre or in-service education
#sblchat
Jodid2
Mar 16 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3: Know your standards and know your students. Then work from there.
#sblchat
kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
A3 Purpose first, then clarity of learning goals/standards.
#sblchat
DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:24 PM EDT
You said a mouth full there - we all need some extra vulnerability to enhance our
#growthmindset
#sblchat
https://t.co/HBuhuUOYNH
Jodid2
Mar 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@DRich0696
Taking action should be the obvious but it's not always. Our pride, stubbornness & previous planning can get in the way.
#sblchat
mmineau
Mar 16 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@sthomaschefsky
it must be you birthday you are rocking these questions or u are on
#sblchat
each week
WaltKozlowski
Mar 16 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3: Ask self: "How can I best allow my students to show what they know in relation to identified standards?"
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Stunning!
#sblchat
https://t.co/k5IXOK2LLP
DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:24 PM EDT
You said a mouth full there - we all need some extra vulnerability to enhance our
#growthmindset
#sblchat
https://t.co/HBuhuUOYNH
Jodid2
Mar 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@DRich0696
Taking action should be the obvious but it's not always. Our pride, stubbornness & previous planning can get in the way.
#sblchat
AceThatTest
Mar 16 @ 9:24 PM EDT
.
@RoweRikW
Does "Red, Yellow Green cups" depend on students being aware of what they know/don't know?
#sblchat
mrs_dereche
Mar 16 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3: start with knowing the standards, then know your learning outcomes and how they target the standards
#sblchat
https://t.co/FnjzrTzW6N
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Q3 When crafting assessment tools, what is the first step?
#sblchat
Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@Jodid2
knowing your Ss is key - helps to answer the question of "HOW?" - offer options that play to strengths&develop weaknesses
#sblchat
Jodid2
Mar 16 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@DRich0696
Yeah, I didn't have room to fit in that I'm often guilty of one or more of those! We're all a work in progress.
#sblchat
geradcarrier
Mar 16 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3: Identifying learning standard being assessed and level of rigor.
#sblchat
brettdimmer
Mar 16 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3
#SBLchat
Are there multiple ways to demonstrate mastery? What will mastery look like?
kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@DouglasReeves
Yes, Doug I was much better trained as referee than to assess a teacher - and I reached higher levels as a ref!
#sblchat
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: We might be a bit more cautious about focus on the present standard and instead ask about end goal..
#sblchat
https://t.co/9td2zVw02X
DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@Jodid2
Me too
#sblchat
https://t.co/KV5eqplnvm
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:26 PM EDT
It is essential to address the level of complexity inherent in the standard when assessing.
#sblchat
BradLatzke
Mar 16 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 Anyone start assessment process by involving Ss?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Yes. Green-Got it and with you Yellow-Slow down since need more practice. Red-Stop. I'm so lost.
#sblchat
https://t.co/urcrFsqaJW
AceThatTest
Mar 16 @ 9:24 PM EDT
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@RoweRikW
Does "Red, Yellow Green cups" depend on students being aware of what they know/don't know?
#sblchat
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: Not every standard is equal and not all of them deserve our time or our assessments.
#sblchat
https://t.co/9td2zVw02X
WaltKozlowski
Mar 16 @ 9:26 PM EDT
I agree, especially when choice is built in.
#sblchat
https://t.co/ctwcsdlikG
CHS_Morris
Mar 16 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@WaltKozlowski
This is why I like projects. It allows students creativity to flow.
21stCenPrinKW
Mar 16 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3. Seeing beneath the surface
#sblchat
https://t.co/KCfIJGsa5T
Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@BradLatzke
I've involved Ss in developing projs and rubrics - empowering and accountability-building
#sblchat
Nathan_Wear
Mar 16 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@PrincipalSteveA
@RoweRikW
Makes me think of the research by Lortie “Apprenticeship of Observation”
https://t.co/gfBOdo61DC
#sblchat
AceThatTest
Mar 16 @ 9:27 PM EDT
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@RoweRikW
OK, so next question - how do we know the greens really do get it? Is there research showing it works?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:27 PM EDT
We all NEED to if we want to
#MakeLearningPersonal
#sblchat
https://t.co/PAulQNwhSV
BradLatzke
Mar 16 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 Anyone start assessment process by involving Ss?
#sblchat
CHS_Morris
Mar 16 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@WaltKozlowski
In English, I have more book reports turned in if it is a project vs an essay.
#sblchat
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@CHS_Morris
To encourage projects and creativity, we need fewer standards and assessments, each richer in content.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Q4 How do you plan for student engagement in the assessment process?
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 16 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Love this comment. If we don't know why we are using the std, (activity, assmt, etc) then don't do it.
#sblchat
https://t.co/x1P1c0L2Mx
kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
A3 Purpose first, then clarity of learning goals/standards.
#sblchat
D4N4K
Mar 16 @ 9:28 PM EDT
This is where we can use Ss interests and prior knowledge- why teach and assess what they already know?
#sblchat
https://t.co/0maDRX1Vt3
BradLatzke
Mar 16 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 Anyone start assessment process by involving Ss?
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Mar 16 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@DouglasReeves
I will make a point to read it Thank you. I'm guessing it is inline w/schools hiring coaches over good teachers
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:28 PM EDT
We trust our Learners with the use of their cups and continue to check in.
#sblchat
https://t.co/eFBrpSLhYw
AceThatTest
Mar 16 @ 9:27 PM EDT
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@RoweRikW
OK, so next question - how do we know the greens really do get it? Is there research showing it works?
#sblchat
perryafinch
Mar 16 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: start with standards, develop learning targets, don't forget the kids & their assessment strengths & preferences.
#sblchat
ChrisRugg
Mar 16 @ 9:28 PM EDT
So true. Must define what is most essential and via grading practices hold all Ss accountable for learning.
#sblchat
https://t.co/116cCS5axQ
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: Not every standard is equal and not all of them deserve our time or our assessments.
#sblchat
https://t.co/9td2zVw02X
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:28 PM EDT
#HereWeGrow
#sblchat
https://t.co/IgBhl5ejH3
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Q4 How do you plan for student engagement in the assessment process?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A4 - Our Learners verbally engage every class FOR Learning as their engagement fosters understanding. They question anytime.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A4 Planning for engagement in the assessment process is a vital component that can be forgotten in the planning.
#sblchat
brettdimmer
Mar 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A4
#SBLchat
Ask the students; they always have great ideas; "how can you show me that you understand this?"
MrSeanDuBe
Mar 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
I know
@mssackstein
has guided her students in developing their own assessments.
#sblchat
#stuvoice
https://t.co/EzwS9ZHFQr
BradLatzke
Mar 16 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 Anyone start assessment process by involving Ss?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Wow!
#sblchat
https://t.co/wlgNF8hkop
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A4 Planning for engagement in the assessment process is a vital component that can be forgotten in the planning.
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LoadmanHHS
Mar 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A4: give them confidence going in, allow them to ask a range of questions, & give new ways to complete the task (take home essay)
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Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A4: OPTIONS! (within reason) Assess frequently and responsively - make it an ongoing convo
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@BradLatzke
It was a great question on your part! Let's get some more discussion on the topic :)
#sblchat
MrKrapels
Mar 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A4: Ts need to do more to encourage Ss to see value in assessments. Encourage S choice, and more autonomy. Authentic assessment
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ChrisRugg
Mar 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Over time yes, but not to begin. Needed to help them understand the why first and focus on the learning.
#sblchat
https://t.co/jthpYFmG8n
BradLatzke
Mar 16 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 Anyone start assessment process by involving Ss?
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DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A4: Ask students to self assess prior and identify learning gaps after to plan their "relearning"
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DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A4: Let’s redefine engagement. It’s not just “paying attention” but rather what students do voluntarily.
#sblchat
https://t.co/9td2zVw02X
jentealteach
Mar 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A4: Ss self-assess before submit. Constant convo about my goal... ASAP, their self-assess should be in line w/mine.
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NicoleVagle
Mar 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A4: Consider authentic audiences. Who can stats create/produce for other than tchr? Produce solutions to a local or global issue?
#sblchat
AceThatTest
Mar 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Not a matter of trust, not suggesting Ss are lying - but people are generally bad at knowing what they know
#sblchat
https://t.co/n4a0P0tskY
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:28 PM EDT
We trust our Learners with the use of their cups and continue to check in.
#sblchat
https://t.co/eFBrpSLhYw
AceThatTest
Mar 16 @ 9:27 PM EDT
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@RoweRikW
OK, so next question - how do we know the greens really do get it? Is there research showing it works?
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RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A4 - We plan for Learner engagement my knowing where they were in understanding in our prior class.
#GoFromThere
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kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A4 Build in opportunities for self & peer ass’t, reflection & goal setting. Remember self-ass’t is a learned skill, must be taught.
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WaltKozlowski
Mar 16 @ 9:30 PM EDT
When completion rates are high, you know you have found something students enjoy/ care about.
#sblchat
https://t.co/HRBmR3i2hw
CHS_Morris
Mar 16 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@WaltKozlowski
In English, I have more book reports turned in if it is a project vs an essay.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A4 Once standards for assessment are determined, it’s time to consider how the Ss will engage in providing evidence of learning.
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21stCenPrinKW
Mar 16 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A4 teach dinosaur. What are Ss passionate about.
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https://t.co/hYYk1CKiQR
MeganCMoMo
Mar 16 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A4: My students say when they have confidence in the material they are more engaged in the assessment process.
#sblchat
#buildconfidence
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:30 PM EDT
I understand...
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https://t.co/ciJ9Gjslup
AceThatTest
Mar 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Not a matter of trust, not suggesting Ss are lying - but people are generally bad at knowing what they know
#sblchat
https://t.co/n4a0P0tskY
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:28 PM EDT
We trust our Learners with the use of their cups and continue to check in.
#sblchat
https://t.co/eFBrpSLhYw
AceThatTest
Mar 16 @ 9:27 PM EDT
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@RoweRikW
OK, so next question - how do we know the greens really do get it? Is there research showing it works?
#sblchat
HubsBrad
Mar 16 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@ChrisRugg
Hi Chris! I'm really glad you are back again for another
#sblchat
!!! 😀
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A4 Consider how you can tie assessment to student interest, relevance, and respectful tasks. All of these promote engagement!
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
RT Q4 How do you plan for student engagement in the assessment process?
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RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A4 - We regularly ask our Learners to convey, demonstrate and facilitate their understanding to guide our instruction.
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MrsMensingTHS
Mar 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A4: Structured opportunities for S response. Don't let Ss go more than 3-5 minutes without checking in.
#sblchat
https://t.co/K4pV7LyzmU
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Q4 How do you plan for student engagement in the assessment process?
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KellyNPipes
Mar 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A4: Play to their talents, interests, goals. Gotta know our Ss first!
#sblchat
Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
When Ss feel they have an authentic audience & the opportunity to change things, the results are HUGE
#sblchat
https://t.co/ivmiT8Eb3r
NicoleVagle
Mar 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A4: Consider authentic audiences. Who can stats create/produce for other than tchr? Produce solutions to a local or global issue?
#sblchat
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A4:
@Garnet_hillman
- respectful push-back on accepting standards as presented . There are simply too many of them.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@AceThatTest
I also used the cups- it was more about feeling like they could continue w/their work/practice or if they were stuck.
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CrystalBates79
Mar 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A4: Provide choices, challenge them, have them show relevancy.
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ChrisRugg
Mar 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Great ?. We've been doing this for years, seen increase in test scores, student success, & # of kids in AP.
#sblchat
https://t.co/M3A6N06JcO
AceThatTest
Mar 16 @ 9:27 PM EDT
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@RoweRikW
OK, so next question - how do we know the greens really do get it? Is there research showing it works?
#sblchat
DavidHochheiser
Mar 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
#sblchat
If we allow choice in content, process and/or product, there's room for content, standards and choice. engage with curriculum
D4N4K
Mar 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Right! Engagement vs. compliance
#sblchat
https://t.co/ZenPa04fOU
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A4: Let’s redefine engagement. It’s not just “paying attention” but rather what students do voluntarily.
#sblchat
https://t.co/9td2zVw02X
TTmomTT
Mar 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A4: Assess often, give choices when possible, ask Ss how they think they could demonstrate knowledge.
#sblchat
Jodid2
Mar 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A4: Ideally, if we can show the relevance of what Ss are learning and then use fair & effective assessmt, engagement will follow.
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DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@kenoc7
Trial and error learning in this case is a tough lesson. I agree - they need help developing the skill.
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BradLatzke
Mar 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Agree. Fewer standards, less content will lead to better assessments, more actual learning.
#sblchat
https://t.co/CQph1Omp2G
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@CHS_Morris
To encourage projects and creativity, we need fewer standards and assessments, each richer in content.
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mrs_dereche
Mar 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@Jodid2
so do your assessments change year to year? How do you ensure quality and equity?
#sblchat
curious not critical
geradcarrier
Mar 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A4: Engage them with good questions that help them think through their learning.
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RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
#MakeLearningPersonal
#sblchat
https://t.co/NYzFNbcZfO
KellyNPipes
Mar 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A4: Play to their talents, interests, goals. Gotta know our Ss first!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A4 - As we discussed in our UDL meeting after school today, we plan by giving, receiving and understanding
#Feedback
.
#sblchat
#udlchat
NicoleVagle
Mar 16 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A4: What's the answer to "why do I have to learn this?" Has to be better than because it will be on the test.
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RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Hi Dave!
#sblchat
https://t.co/DZpBDryoPh
DavidHochheiser
Mar 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
#sblchat
If we allow choice in content, process and/or product, there's room for content, standards and choice. engage with curriculum
DavidHochheiser
Mar 16 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@D4N4K
Engagement isn't just doing what they want, though. Get them hooked on the curriculum. Meet up half way
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 16 @ 9:32 PM EDT
One of the things I love about SBL - Ss asking for more: practice, feedback, assessment
#sblchat
https://t.co/dKyvvMtTPJ
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A4: Let’s redefine engagement. It’s not just “paying attention” but rather what students do voluntarily.
#sblchat
https://t.co/9td2zVw02X
AceThatTest
Mar 16 @ 9:32 PM EDT
It sounds like a fun technique - hadn't heard of it, was wondering if any research had been conducted on it
#sblchat
https://t.co/7EbkiMPzTN
ChrisRugg
Mar 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Great ?. We've been doing this for years, seen increase in test scores, student success, & # of kids in AP.
#sblchat
https://t.co/M3A6N06JcO
AceThatTest
Mar 16 @ 9:27 PM EDT
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@RoweRikW
OK, so next question - how do we know the greens really do get it? Is there research showing it works?
#sblchat
DavidHochheiser
Mar 16 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
Hey Rik, et al. Great to be around
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MrSeanDuBe
Mar 16 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A4 Student choice and voice on essays and projects. Allow students to show their understanding in a personal and authentic way.
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DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@mrs_dereche
- EXACTLY right. Last year’s engaging assessment is this year’s boring test. I find I need to change frequently.
#sblchat
ChrisRugg
Mar 16 @ 9:32 PM EDT
#sblchat
SBL unlocks formative assessment bc you can go by standard. This allows theory to practice to take place
https://t.co/M3A6N06JcO
AceThatTest
Mar 16 @ 9:27 PM EDT
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@RoweRikW
OK, so next question - how do we know the greens really do get it? Is there research showing it works?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Relevant and meaning-making are vital...
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https://t.co/40VO8w4paI
CrystalBates79
Mar 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A4: Provide choices, challenge them, have them show relevancy.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@DouglasReeves
I agree that there are too many standards. Time to prioritize and determine which to assess.
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WaltKozlowski
Mar 16 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Q4: Set criteria in a way that invites student creativity.
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PLloydHenry
Mar 16 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A4: if we begin by making learn'g goals explicit, co-construct activities assessment tasks &success criteria engagement will follow
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Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@BradLatzke
depth > breadth
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Jodid2
Mar 16 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@mrs_dereche
not vastly but to some degree, yes. I work w/ a colleague who drastically changes them each yr.
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RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Like this tweet if you are new to
#sblchat
so we can welcome you to our Crew.
MarkChubb3
Mar 16 @ 9:33 PM EDT
If formative assessment is more like a movie than a snapshot, what might the Ss be DOING? Take a look:
#sblchat
https://t.co/QK1vt8Ztxh
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Smiling
#sblchat
https://t.co/7ljmWMmfdE
TTmomTT
Mar 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A4: Assess often, give choices when possible, ask Ss how they think they could demonstrate knowledge.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:33 PM EDT
It was!
#sblchat
https://t.co/ubk7uW9qSs
ElizabethLStein
Mar 16 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
Just LOVE the sound of that! "our UDL meeting" awesome and inspiring!
#udlchat
DavidHochheiser
Mar 16 @ 9:33 PM EDT
If only we'd all be willing to start with this
#sblchat
https://t.co/6o5NiMjr0p
kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1 The primary purpose of assessment should be to gather information to inform teaching and learning to make both better.
#sblchat
.
BradLatzke
Mar 16 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@willtragert
Early in my T career, I used to give "pop quizzes" to punish classes. Fortunately for Ss, I changed.
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 16 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@kenoc7
Reflection and goal setting has been HUGE with my Alg 1 class.
#sblchat
mrs_dereche
Mar 16 @ 9:34 PM EDT
#sblchat
A4) have Ss self score, set goal, and identify what's missing. Have Ss create reviews or assessments based on their interpretation
AceThatTest
Mar 16 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Going to ask again since there was no response the first time. What about assessment FOR learning? (i.e., the testing effect)
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Jodid2
Mar 16 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@mrs_dereche
learning can be shown in many ways, so I'm not too concerned w/ equity. I do keep some more 'standard' assmts tho.
#sblchat
WaltKozlowski
Mar 16 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A4: We have to avoid getting caught up in what we want students to produce & focus on what we want them to show they understand.
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Mar 16 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
@DouglasReeves
I do this by grouping CCSM, & id'ing skills that support the strd.Then ID them as Essential vs Minor
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Let's welcome Phiona {
@PLloydHenry
} to our
#sblchat
tonight! Everyone waving!
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:34 PM EDT
This!
#sblchat
https://t.co/RUEtsnh4NK
NicoleVagle
Mar 16 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A4: What's the answer to "why do I have to learn this?" Has to be better than because it will be on the test.
#sblchat
AceThatTest
Mar 16 @ 9:34 PM EDT
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@garnet_hillman
How do you measure engagement in assessment?
#sblchat
mrs_dereche
Mar 16 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@Jodid2
are common assessments a priority? It's a requirement where I work 5+ Ts per content course
#sblchat
ChrisRugg
Mar 16 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Me too.
#sblchat
no value other than a short term behavior change. Nothing of lasting value.
https://t.co/ecFCzam1oT
BradLatzke
Mar 16 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@willtragert
Early in my T career, I used to give "pop quizzes" to punish classes. Fortunately for Ss, I changed.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@RCissel
Our Learners each have a short stack of Green, Yellow and Red cups on their desk to indicate their level of understanding.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@AceThatTest
This is not something I measured, but important for students to know they are part of the process and have ownership.
#sblchat
DavidHochheiser
Mar 16 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
Yes. Curriculum choices are key. If they have to learn it, we'd better have a great "why." give choice elsewhere
#sblchat
CHS_Morris
Mar 16 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@AceThatTest
We have to find a way to make sure a student has learned. I'm not in a SBL district, but see the benefits.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Q5 What is the role of common assessment in classroom and schools?
#sblchat
AceThatTest
Mar 16 @ 9:36 PM EDT
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@DouglasReeves
To what extent are teachers trying to leverage assessments as learning tools rather than just measuring standards?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:36 PM EDT
We're so glad you did!
#sblchat
https://t.co/8VLPkQMmsQ
PLloydHenry
Mar 16 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
I'm Phiona - I've just slipped in surreptitiously 😊
NoviAcademics
Mar 16 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4 In the best case the "assessment" is engaging due to its relevance to the student
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:36 PM EDT
#HereWeGrow
#sblchat
https://t.co/COdXQXcguo
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Q5 What is the role of common assessment in classroom and schools?
#sblchat
MrSeanDuBe
Mar 16 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4 Guide students in Assessment AS Learning: reflect against the standard and revise as necessary to move towards mastery.
#sblchat
WaltKozlowski
Mar 16 @ 9:36 PM EDT
I involuntarily cringe EVERY time I hear this! 😫
#sblchat
https://t.co/zBl6vFB8Cf
NicoleVagle
Mar 16 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A4: What's the answer to "why do I have to learn this?" Has to be better than because it will be on the test.
#sblchat
ChrisRugg
Mar 16 @ 9:36 PM EDT
So true with self assessment and ownership piece.
#sblchat
https://t.co/ACwONggJS2
mrs_dereche
Mar 16 @ 9:34 PM EDT
#sblchat
A4) have Ss self score, set goal, and identify what's missing. Have Ss create reviews or assessments based on their interpretation
efpawlak
Mar 16 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A5: Give Ts a place to start those powerful conversations. It's the best part!
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A5 Common assessment is key to open dialogue for teachers about evidence of learning and increases inter-rater reliability!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A5 - Hoping that assessing is becoming more of a conversation about feedback than a punitive gotcha. If punitive, then
#STOPIT
.
#sblchat
Jodid2
Mar 16 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@DouglasReeves
@garnet_hillman
I totally agree, but struggle with the logistics of reducing/grouping them. It's a tough process.
#sblchat
Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A5: common assessment, used well, can ensure that Ss are getting the same (high quality) educational experience across classrooms
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Kindly welcome Joe {
@jbolden2
} to our assessment sharing in
#sblchat
tonight!!
DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A5: To help determine best practice by PLCs - if my peer gets great data I want to learn from him/her!
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 16 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Invited some
#edcampliberty
participants to
#sblchat
Reply to me if you could make it tonight.
jentealteach
Mar 16 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A5: In our SD, common assmt. is about measuring proficiency on common SKILLS. This is important. How it is assessed is flexible.
#sblchat
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@AceThatTest
Thanks for the clarification - assessment for learning is distant second to assessment of learning.
#sblchat
THANKS, NCLB!
AceThatTest
Mar 16 @ 9:37 PM EDT
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@garnet_hillman
Just curious how "engagement" is defined and how the construct is measured - in other words, what is it?
#sblchat
ChrisRugg
Mar 16 @ 9:37 PM EDT
This!
#sblchat
https://t.co/1qWwDYIi9v
DavidHochheiser
Mar 16 @ 9:33 PM EDT
If only we'd all be willing to start with this
#sblchat
https://t.co/6o5NiMjr0p
kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1 The primary purpose of assessment should be to gather information to inform teaching and learning to make both better.
#sblchat
.
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@Jodid2
@DouglasReeves
It is a tough process and one that we refine and improve year after year.
#sblchat
MrKrapels
Mar 16 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A5: Common assess. are important so that Ss are getting a consistent learning experience. Good collaboration maintains T autonomy
#sblchat
realAllisonW
Mar 16 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@MarkChubb3
what would we hear (soundtrack) see, make us anxious as Ts and measure Ss achievement
#sblchat
https://t.co/tJfjcTciLY
MarkChubb3
Mar 16 @ 9:33 PM EDT
If formative assessment is more like a movie than a snapshot, what might the Ss be DOING? Take a look:
#sblchat
https://t.co/QK1vt8Ztxh
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:37 PM EDT
So please to welcome Rebecca {
@missgdoes5th
} to our
#sblchat
Crew tonight! Everyone wave?
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A5 - We aim to assess our Learners individually when possible to
#MakeLearningPersonal
by adding Voice & Choice.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A5 Common assessment design helps teachers increase their collective capacities for crafting quality assessment tools.
#sblchat
DavidHochheiser
Mar 16 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A5
#sblchat
Common Assessment can be solid gauge of grade-level curriculum and pedagogies. Is our work working?
ChrisRugg
Mar 16 @ 9:38 PM EDT
This!
#sblchat
https://t.co/1qWwDYZTy5
DavidHochheiser
Mar 16 @ 9:33 PM EDT
If only we'd all be willing to start with this
#sblchat
https://t.co/6o5NiMjr0p
kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1 The primary purpose of assessment should be to gather information to inform teaching and learning to make both better.
#sblchat
.
NicoleVagle
Mar 16 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A5: Coming to consensus on the student work (CA) that reflects the learning (standards) signals the level of expectation
#sblchat
Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@jentealteach
SKILLS! This!
#sblchat
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:38 PM EDT
But we can’t blame everything on bad policy - teachers make many bad assessment decisions on their own, and we must own that. .
#sblchat
AceThatTest
Mar 16 @ 9:38 PM EDT
That's a shame - why a distant second? Taking assessments produces learning - why not capitalize on that?
#sblchat
https://t.co/8ZHWi68D0A
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@AceThatTest
Thanks for the clarification - assessment for learning is distant second to assessment of learning.
#sblchat
THANKS, NCLB!
mrs_dereche
Mar 16 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Who teaches the teachers how to teach this? Tongue twister! So far it's been trial by fire for me...
#sblchat
https://t.co/d0RYftBt4W
kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A4 Build in opportunities for self & peer ass’t, reflection & goal setting. Remember self-ass’t is a learned skill, must be taught.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@RCissel
Their cups are also used for fidgeting, too!
#Honesty
#sblchat
Jodid2
Mar 16 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
Yes! When that happens it's such a strong sign that the SBL process is doing what it's intended to do - on many levels.
#sblchat
kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A5 I think common assessments should be use OCCASIONALLY to check the consistency of teacher judgment of levels of proficiency.
#sblchat
WaltKozlowski
Mar 16 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A5: Evidence for educators. What's working? What's not? What do we adjust? How do we get better?
#sblchat
21stCenPrinKW
Mar 16 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A5. Set the course for success.
#sblchat
https://t.co/OFt36swIZD
Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@DavidHochheiser
What a great question! "Is our work working?" can help US assess ourselves
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:39 PM EDT
RT Q5 What is the role of common assessment in classrooms and schools?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A5 - I've seen common assessments as Midyear and Final Exams be used to compare Teachers and their alignment with pacing.
#sblchat
#STOPIT
DavidHochheiser
Mar 16 @ 9:39 PM EDT
#sblchat
A5 Common assesment can gauge effectiveness of materials and approaches used by different Ts
ChrisRugg
Mar 16 @ 9:39 PM EDT
SBL makes AFL real. Even for teachers who buy into AFL, they need examples of how to do it. That's the SBL.
#sblchat
https://t.co/2HY7IHbK4D
AceThatTest
Mar 16 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Going to ask again since there was no response the first time. What about assessment FOR learning? (i.e., the testing effect)
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 16 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A5: I like common assmt for my own reflection. If other Ts seeing success and I'm not, let's find out why.
#sblchat
CrystalBates79
Mar 16 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A5: Common Assmt allow us opportunities to learn from each other, looking at data, & determining areas we can improve as educators.
#sblchat
NicoleVagle
Mar 16 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A5: Danger of CA is that consensus means the least common denominator -- low level questions
#sblchat
MarkChubb3
Mar 16 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@missgdoes5th
Van de Walle's Teaching Student a entered Mathematics
#sblchat
Jodid2
Mar 16 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@mrs_dereche
Ha, look @ that - you got a jump on Q5! We usually have one per topic/unit.
#sblchat
PeteLeida
Mar 16 @ 9:40 PM EDT
#sblchat
A5: Common assessments provide a common focus for PLCs & ensure learning targets are met across classrooms.
MeganCMoMo
Mar 16 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A5If mult Ts are T'ing a course, common assmnt is used for inter-reliability.BUT I know how to assess the learners in MY class best
#sblchat
mrs_dereche
Mar 16 @ 9:40 PM EDT
#sblchat
A4) I also often ask my students to fill out a reflection on the assessment itself and analyze results for effectiveness
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@RCissel
If our Learners have a Red cup and I don't see it, they have permission to throw it at me!
#sblchat
#JustSayin
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@NicoleVagle
Exactly - CA can regress to making the adults feel good rather than challenging T’s and S’s .
#sblchat
NicoleVagle
Mar 16 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A5: Power of CA can be in reviewing drafts of projects & tasks and collectively planning instruction to take students deeper
#sblchat
drjolly
Mar 16 @ 9:40 PM EDT
#Family
is EVERYTHING! Joshua 24:15
#thankful
#blessed
#grateful
#sblchat
#satchatwc
#IAmSecond
https://t.co/4wpy9B5FNB
ChrisRugg
Mar 16 @ 9:40 PM EDT
This was critical in the SBL transformation process.
#sblchat
https://t.co/cb0Ug09jVX
DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A5: To help determine best practice by PLCs - if my peer gets great data I want to learn from him/her!
#sblchat
MrSeanDuBe
Mar 16 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A5 To guide teachers in making strategic and purposeful decisions about student learning and teacher instruction.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@AceThatTest
Engaged students take an active role in the assessment process. It is done with them, not to them.
#sblchat
CHS_Morris
Mar 16 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@AceThatTest
Assessments don't account for stressors that could hinder performance on a test.
#sblchat
AceThatTest
Mar 16 @ 9:41 PM EDT
.
@garnet_hillman
in fact,
@greg_ashman
recently argued that "engagement" is not a useful concept
https://t.co/HBW0i4IxG7
#sblchat
KellyNPipes
Mar 16 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Q5: Common assmnt as part of reflection on how I'm doing. State standard'ed assessment not timely (or relevant) enough to be useful
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Darin, thrilled to see you!
#sblchat
https://t.co/LyN5NqVVzH
drjolly
Mar 16 @ 9:40 PM EDT
#Family
is EVERYTHING! Joshua 24:15
#thankful
#blessed
#grateful
#sblchat
#satchatwc
#IAmSecond
https://t.co/4wpy9B5FNB
kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@drjolly
Relevance for
#sblchat
???
technolandy
Mar 16 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
is it harsh for A5 to be to ensure conformity & unity in what is regurgitated from memory insertions? too much?
#sblchat
ChrisRugg
Mar 16 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Exactly. We all work hard at our jobs. It's nice to know if what we r doing is working and Ss are learning.
#sblchat
https://t.co/6KQ3ziPJ8L
DavidHochheiser
Mar 16 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A5
#sblchat
Common Assessment can be solid gauge of grade-level curriculum and pedagogies. Is our work working?
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@WaltKozlowski
It gets my attention right away!
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 16 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@kenoc7
We have common assmts but also the autonomy to provide more assmnt opportunities in our own clssrm to meet Ss need.
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Mar 16 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Its hard to say Ts need to assess Ss in a variety of ways & allow choice for Ss to demo understanding & then require common assmnt
#sblchat
D4N4K
Mar 16 @ 9:42 PM EDT
#sblchat
Agree CAs need to have several DOKs so All students can show what they know
https://t.co/khoA3QGOtG
NicoleVagle
Mar 16 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A5: Danger of CA is that consensus means the least common denominator -- low level questions
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:42 PM EDT
I did not learn it either...
#sblchat
https://t.co/SK41rrQlAA
mrs_dereche
Mar 16 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Who teaches the teachers how to teach this? Tongue twister! So far it's been trial by fire for me...
#sblchat
https://t.co/d0RYftBt4W
kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A4 Build in opportunities for self & peer ass’t, reflection & goal setting. Remember self-ass’t is a learned skill, must be taught.
#sblchat
DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@drjolly
Good choice Dr J - family first!
#sblchat
jentealteach
Mar 16 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@NicoleVagle
What if CA is about commonality in measuring skill rather than commonality in questions....even w/in your own class!
#sblchat
PLloydHenry
Mar 16 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A5: standards - not standardization Ts should have autonomy to be responsive to Ss and their learning strengths & needs
#sblchat
technolandy
Mar 16 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A5: but, common assessments help to ensure specific learning outcomes have been reached….as part of a descriptive feedback loop
#sblchat
kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@technolandy
@garnet_hillman
Not harsh as in reality has often been the reason for mandated CA’s.
#sblchat
ChrisRugg
Mar 16 @ 9:43 PM EDT
And then we give Ts another chance, as we should. Use the same practice with your Ss. Focus on growth.
#sblchat
https://t.co/2M56U59IIG
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:38 PM EDT
But we can’t blame everything on bad policy - teachers make many bad assessment decisions on their own, and we must own that. .
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:43 PM EDT
We need to be responsible for the learning and must value their needs and Red cups.
#sblchat
https://t.co/Qa8Ez1LyRX
RCissel
Mar 16 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
That is beyond awesome. I tell my kids "make me listen". A cup hitting me in the head would defiantly do the trick
geradcarrier
Mar 16 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A5: to foster collaboration and learning among teachers as they compare quality of student responses to improve student leaning
#sblchat
WaltKozlowski
Mar 16 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
It certainly would. 😀
#sblchat
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Colleagues, just want to step back and ask a big assessment question - even the best assessments look at effects, not causes.
#sblchat
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Truly comprehensive FA’s look not just at student scores but at teaching practices..
#sblchat
BradLatzke
Mar 16 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Agree with Ken on this one. Common assessment should be balanced with S voice/choice.
#sblchat
https://t.co/A1px3j8iFt
kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A5 I think common assessments should be use OCCASIONALLY to check the consistency of teacher judgment of levels of proficiency.
#sblchat
ALinsonEN
Mar 16 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A5 A common assessment can be an excellent reflective tool used to adjust instruction....unless it is used as a high stakes test.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Q6 How do assessment results impact instruction?
#sblchat
PrincipalSteveA
Mar 16 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Q5 If common assessment means taking the same exact test, how does it serve all of our S. We are reinforcing time over content.
#sblchat
efpawlak
Mar 16 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Like this: we're looking at what happened as a result of our teaching and that's it.
#sblchat
https://t.co/5bYZpqV10w
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Colleagues, just want to step back and ask a big assessment question - even the best assessments look at effects, not causes.
#sblchat
Teachmathtorr
Mar 16 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5 common formative assessments are hard, common summative are easier. Formatives should match your own teaching and students.
#sblchat
AceThatTest
Mar 16 @ 9:44 PM EDT
@JennBinis
@DouglasReeves
for sure - wanted to hear some individual Ts' responses - but seems like answer is "not at all" for most
#sblchat
DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:44 PM EDT
@DouglasReeves
I've made thousands of poor assessment decisions over the past 30 years - trying to get better
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Agreed.
#sblchat
https://t.co/XnCPverjhN
ChrisRugg
Mar 16 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Exactly. We all work hard at our jobs. It's nice to know if what we r doing is working and Ss are learning.
#sblchat
https://t.co/6KQ3ziPJ8L
DavidHochheiser
Mar 16 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A5
#sblchat
Common Assessment can be solid gauge of grade-level curriculum and pedagogies. Is our work working?
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:45 PM EDT
@efpawlak
“Looking at what happened as a result of our teaching” - only if we examine teaching as carefully as we test S’s..
#sblchat
Jodid2
Mar 16 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5: I struggle w/ this. They can help to standardize our teaching, but aren't great in terms of assm't - can be quite limiting.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A6 Use assessment results to find out where students are...then move forward!
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Mar 16 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Assessment results DRIVE instructional choices.
#daily
#sblchat
https://t.co/UtiAuQyyFe
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Q6 How do assessment results impact instruction?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A6 - Assessment results should HUGELY impact Instruction by guiding the learning toward the Goal or Target.
#Feedback
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:45 PM EDT
HUGE... Let's do this!
#sblchat
https://t.co/Bt3dtXEmNQ
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Q6 How do assessment results impact instruction?
#sblchat
realAllisonW
Mar 16 @ 9:45 PM EDT
@DouglasReeves
how might the bad decisions reflect a gap in T understanding how to devlep a HQ assessment?
#sblchat
https://t.co/Y9ldyOk08E
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:38 PM EDT
But we can’t blame everything on bad policy - teachers make many bad assessment decisions on their own, and we must own that. .
#sblchat
technolandy
Mar 16 @ 9:45 PM EDT
yep…well said (though I’m always sensitive to the design of “common” assessments)
#sblchat
https://t.co/sypCRKhUw9
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Colleagues, just want to step back and ask a big assessment question - even the best assessments look at effects, not causes.
#sblchat
CrystalBates79
Mar 16 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Absolutely! If we don't change how we teach, how can we expect the outcomes to change.
#sblchat
https://t.co/Ajb3DyDVWX
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Truly comprehensive FA’s look not just at student scores but at teaching practices..
#sblchat
kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:45 PM EDT
@kenoc7
@drjolly
Darin, the reason I asked about relevance is because I’m uncomfortable with religious references in
#sblchat
.
efpawlak
Mar 16 @ 9:45 PM EDT
@DouglasReeves
And if we don't, that's a huge opportunity lost!
#sblchat
Teachmathtorr
Mar 16 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A6 results should influence instruction, i.e. Reteach or move on
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A6 Assessment results should be used to guide differentiation and scaffolding for students.
#sblchat
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:46 PM EDT
.A6: Next Generation Accountability systems must focus on teaching and leadership - not just tests.
#sblchat
https://t.co/9td2zVw02X
MrKrapels
Mar 16 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A6: Ts must use data purposefully. If instruction isn't tailored to it, then Ts are reinforcing idea that grades are most important
#sblchat
VeliaViola1
Mar 16 @ 9:46 PM EDT
#sblchat
Velia joining in , a little late
Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A6: well designed assessments can help toward the goal of
#personalizedlearning
- enhance instruction where Ss aren't "getting it"
#sblchat
DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A6: Assessment results should drive instructional decisions - they determine next steps like move on or go back.
#sblchat
jamesmcguire85
Mar 16 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5: common assessment helps Ts support each other to make teaching and assessment better for Ss
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 16 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A6: Assmt results show where whole class gaps are and where indiv help is needed. Ss and Ts reflect on every assmt. for next steps
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Mar 16 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A6: If we don't do something other than enter a score in the grade book, then why did we give the assessment!
#wasteoftime
#sblchat
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A6: For example, if we know that FA is an effective practice, let’s report on their quality and frequency
#sblchat
https://t.co/9td2zVw02X
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:47 PM EDT
RT Q6 How do assessment results impact instruction?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:47 PM EDT
It's preferred when we can
#MakeLearningPersonal
#sblchat
https://t.co/SXXeSmqsez
PrincipalSteveA
Mar 16 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Q5 If common assessment means taking the same exact test, how does it serve all of our S. We are reinforcing time over content.
#sblchat
jentealteach
Mar 16 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A6: Differentiation. Student A ready to move on. Student B needs more practice. Student C needs reteaching. Etc.
#sblchat
kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A6 Assessment results should impact instruction because they identify strengths and weaknesses in teaching.
#sblchat
AceThatTest
Mar 16 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Where are you, "right folks"?
#sblchat
https://t.co/8l6KQAUFvW
JennBinis
Mar 16 @ 9:46 PM EDT
@AceThatTest
then the right folks aren't answering :) It is a common approach go design. I use it for my day job
@JennLCI
.
@DouglasReeves
CHS_Morris
Mar 16 @ 9:47 PM EDT
For
#sblchat
schools, how does your student ranking/grades work for seniors applying for colleges? Just curious?
VeliaViola1
Mar 16 @ 9:47 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
Yes, check in to learning. Do Ss need more support? Or is it time to move on?
#sblchat
MarkChubb3
Mar 16 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Common assessments might help Ts: Realize what is important See standards in new ways Or Focus Ts view on narrow slice of learning
#sblchat
jentealteach
Mar 16 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A6: S goal setting
#sblchat
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A6: To put a fine point on it, I don’t want schools to say that we “heard”
@kenoc7
but that they did what he said to do.
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Mar 16 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Exactly! I am working on a blog post about differentiating remediation steps.
#sblchat
https://t.co/sdrFTZ6mbu
jentealteach
Mar 16 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A6: Differentiation. Student A ready to move on. Student B needs more practice. Student C needs reteaching. Etc.
#sblchat
DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@CHS_Morris
We are strongly considering doing away with class rank.
#sblchat
mrs_dereche
Mar 16 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Agreed. I haven't seen S choice done well or multi methods in a strict CA environment
#sblchat
https://t.co/vJaYYTa8C4
MeganCMoMo
Mar 16 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Its hard to say Ts need to assess Ss in a variety of ways & allow choice for Ss to demo understanding & then require common assmnt
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@VeliaViola1
Velia, welcome!
#sblchat
PeteLeida
Mar 16 @ 9:48 PM EDT
#sblchat
A6: Assessments both common and formative can and should be used for learning. Why give an autopsy when there is another day?
NoviAcademics
Mar 16 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A6 Assessment results are the mirror in which we as educators need to look into -what more do our kids need? What is our next move
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@DRich0696
@CHS_Morris
No more norm referencing!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@VeliaViola1
Q6 How do assessment results impact instruction?
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 16 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@CHS_Morris
Wish ranking wasn't a factor! In in the end, the most recent evidence is recorded for a grade. I teach HS math.
#sblchat
VeliaViola1
Mar 16 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
Thanks Rik!
#sblchat
brettdimmer
Mar 16 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A6
#SBLchat
Shows me which students need reteaching, which have need for extended (advanced) learning
MarkChubb3
Mar 16 @ 9:49 PM EDT
MOST important thing is to consider WHAT we are assessing! Too much low level assessments paints wrong story about learning!
#sblchat
CHS_Morris
Mar 16 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@DRich0696
But how would that impact colleges, is my question?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Thank you.
#sblchat
https://t.co/csZhzSoPQJ
MeganCMoMo
Mar 16 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A6: If we don't do something other than enter a score in the grade book, then why did we give the assessment!
#wasteoftime
#sblchat
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@DRich0696
Good for you! Class rank is the “distinction without a difference” an error that Stat 101 students learn to avoid
#sblchat
kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Good one Doug. I got out of MO before the flood but in a torrential downpour.
#sblchat
https://t.co/tWjY55GK13
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A6: To put a fine point on it, I don’t want schools to say that we “heard”
@kenoc7
but that they did what he said to do.
#sblchat
WaltKozlowski
Mar 16 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A6: Inform next steps & should lead 2 dig deeper 2 determine cause: How do we improve on poor results AND how do we sustain good?
#sblchat
DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
@CHS_Morris
Colleges have alternative means that make it an easy switch.
#sblchat
NicoleVagle
Mar 16 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A6: Assessment results lead students to reflect on next steps. Assessment results are the foundation of the next day's lesson
#sblchat
KellyNPipes
Mar 16 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A6: SBG helps Ss sort out exactly which skills/areas need improvement, point out strengths/increase confidence. Not a blah average!
#sblchat
jamesmcguire85
Mar 16 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A6: Reteach? Remediate? Differentiate? Or move on?!
#sblchat
Jodid2
Mar 16 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A6: tells Ts where we need to teach more/better/differently (and tells Ss where to focus their efforts).
#sblchat
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:50 PM EDT
@jamesmcguire85
Great challenge, Jamie. we can’t do that with 100 standards, but we could with 12 “power standards” .
#sblchat
jentealteach
Mar 16 @ 9:50 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
@CHS_Morris
I like the phrase "most reflective evidence" rather than "recent"
#flexibility
#sblchat
conniehamilton
Mar 16 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A6: Formative assessment results drive instruction, determine intervention, and frame feedback for students.
#sblchat
CHS_Morris
Mar 16 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
Ranking doesn't show a students' potential in most fields. Not sure what the impact would be on students for scholarships.
#sblchat
Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@Jodid2
It's definitely a 2-way partnership
#sblchat
PeteLeida
Mar 16 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@jamesmcguire85
All three!
#sblchat
DavidHochheiser
Mar 16 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@jamesmcguire85
Don't forget to "enrich" and "extend" as well.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Don't forget to follow all the wonderful people you are chatting with tonight - continue the learning!
#sblchat
21stCenPrinKW
Mar 16 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A6 assessment impact depends on the heart of the T and what he/she wants to see.
#sblchat
https://t.co/RLgrHGoa1i
perryafinch
Mar 16 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A6: That's the million $ question. How 2 get past data collection 2 data usage that benefits Ss. It should inform new learning.
#sblchat
VeliaViola1
Mar 16 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
A6 Working on a pp right for staff mting. How to expln to Ts that assessment moves instruction. Need to know the learner
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Q7 What is your biggest takeaway from
#sblchat
tonight?
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@CrystalBates79
Thank you Crystal.
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 16 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@CHS_Morris
I agree, yet scholarships are based on it. Two daughters in college right now and it was important.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:52 PM EDT
BAM!
#sblchat
https://t.co/XVDpBnMsaQ
VeliaViola1
Mar 16 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
A6 Working on a pp right for staff mting. How to expln to Ts that assessment moves instruction. Need to know the learner
#sblchat
Jodid2
Mar 16 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@DRich0696
@CHS_Morris
class rank?! Is that a thing? Yikes! Haven't seen that in these parts & am pretty glad about that!
#sblchat
MrSeanDuBe
Mar 16 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A6 Assessments allow students to reflect on their work, understand their level of knowledge, and revise their learning goals.
#sblchat
CHS_Morris
Mar 16 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@DRich0696
@garnet_hillman
Not arguing, but when I applied for scholarships in 2009, every app asked for rank and gpa.
#sblchat
DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:52 PM EDT
I like that phrase...most recent might still be most reflective, but doesn't tie our hands.
#sblchat
https://t.co/w0uvS55kd9
jentealteach
Mar 16 @ 9:50 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
@CHS_Morris
I like the phrase "most reflective evidence" rather than "recent"
#flexibility
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@perryafinch
Narrow it down by standard - when my teachers do this it helps the conversation flow to informing instruction.
#sblchat
MarkChubb3
Mar 16 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A6 We adjust our instruction because of assessments... Better hope that assessment was well-designed! I think this is hard to do!
#sblchat
DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@veliaviola1
- if you need free help on staff meeting presentations, please check slides and downloads from
https://t.co/9td2zVw02X
#sblchat
VeliaViola1
Mar 16 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@21stCenPrinKW
Love this Ken! Will definitely share with my staff
#awesome
staff, idea to really know the learner/ Ss
#wholechild
#sblchat
Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A7: Continue to integrate assessment INTO instruction - creating feedback loop is so important
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TTmomTT
Mar 16 @ 9:53 PM EDT
@jentealteach
@CHS_Morris
If most recent isn't the best then I look at all factors to determine level.
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RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A7 - After tonight's sharing, I'm realizing our Learners deserve more of a Voice in our assessing conversation. Okay, I said it.
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geradcarrier
Mar 16 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6: meet needs of those that get it as well as address the misconceptions of those not quite there.
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PLloydHenry
Mar 16 @ 9:53 PM EDT
@WaltKozlowski
right - how do we leverage Ss knowledge/skills & use these to extend student learning & leadership
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MrKrapels
Mar 16 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A7: It's important to keep reminding ourselves why we assess in the 1st place. Use it for improving instruction. Learning>grades.
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realAllisonW
Mar 16 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Affirms my thinking about critical vs reflective practice
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https://t.co/HGHPPbYGk6
CrystalBates79
Mar 16 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Absolutely! If we don't change how we teach, how can we expect the outcomes to change.
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DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Truly comprehensive FA’s look not just at student scores but at teaching practices..
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RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Honesty please...
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https://t.co/pQivKJljTg
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Q7 What is your biggest takeaway from
#sblchat
tonight?
PeteLeida
Mar 16 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Bottom line...It's really all about the feedback to Ss and the action of the Ts.
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https://t.co/5D1hSNVeTE
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@VeliaViola1
Q6 How do assessment results impact instruction?
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DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:53 PM EDT
@CHS_Morris
@garnet_hillman
Our counselors tell me that our regent universities have an RAI calc with and without class rank.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A7 I loved discovering new ways to involve students in the assessment process!
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NicoleVagle
Mar 16 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A7: Bring students in to co-construct their assessment experiences -- both in design and feedback/next steps
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KellyNPipes
Mar 16 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A7: I have a phenomenal PLC and
#sblchat
is my
#bestfindof2016
Excited to redesign my next course!
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KellyNPipes
Mar 16 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A7: I have a phenomenal PLC and
#sblchat
is my
#bestfindof2016
Excited to redesign my next course!
#sblchat
VeliaViola1
Mar 16 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@perryafinch
A6 Should data drive instruction, only when Ts see Ss as individual learners, support their personal learning styles
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jentealteach
Mar 16 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A7: Reminds me of the importance of flexibility in instruction.
#letgothereins
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DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@Jodid2
some traditions die hard
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TTmomTT
Mar 16 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A7: Assess for knowledge in a way that best suits the learner.
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kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
@CHS_Morris
Thankfully many colleges have done away with the requirement for class rank.
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DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Proud Dad moment and relevant to SBL - my daughter just got into Boston Latin, oldest public school in the US, with NO GRADES.
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PLloydHenry
Mar 16 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@perryafinch
better yet - he do we ensure that Ss do the same?
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:55 PM EDT
RT Q7 What is your biggest takeaway from
#sblchat
tonight?
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A7 We need to keep supporting our colleagues on the purpose of assessment - to maximize student learning, not to assign a grade.
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WaltKozlowski
Mar 16 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A7: We are not there yet.Have to continue the work around how, why, and when we assess.
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kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:55 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
@CHS_Morris
Also many HS have realized it disadvantages at least half their students.
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VeliaViola1
Mar 16 @ 9:55 PM EDT
@DouglasReeves
Wow! Love Free! TY so very much.
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NoviAcademics
Mar 16 @ 9:55 PM EDT
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@RoweRikW
Completely agree -
@stu_voice
runs a strong chat on Monday nights
#stuvoice
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CrystalBates79
Mar 16 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A7: I love talking teaching and learning!
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jamesmcguire85
Mar 16 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A7: I need to make sure I'm not wasting my Ss time or mine with my assessments.
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perryafinch
Mar 16 @ 9:55 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
like that a lot. Why give them further work in areas they may have previously mastered?
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DouglasReeves
Mar 16 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Thanks, colleagues, and moderators, for another great chat.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Want to continue the discussion? Join our Standards Based Learning and Grading Facebook page:
https://t.co/YxBLoay7cQ
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21stCenPrinKW
Mar 16 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A7 enough said
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TTmomTT
Mar 16 @ 9:56 PM EDT
@kenoc7
@CHS_Morris
At a meeting with a district official this week and they made the comment about no more class rank.
#progress
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mrs_dereche
Mar 16 @ 9:56 PM EDT
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A7) specific strategies to engage Ss in assessment. Still looking for the right counter arguments to bring more Ts to SBG
MeganCMoMo
Mar 16 @ 9:56 PM EDT
@CHS_Morris
@DRich0696
@garnet_hillman
How do home schooled students get into college? We dont NEED GPA or class rank
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VeliaViola1
Mar 16 @ 9:56 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
A7 Exactly! Know the learner , build a learning community/ culture
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MrSeanDuBe
Mar 16 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A7 Assessments must include student choice and voice, crafted effectively by teachers, and used purposefully by both.
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jentealteach
Mar 16 @ 9:56 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
And not to punish Ss! Time to break that cycle of us (Ts) vs. them (Ss) in education.
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DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A7: Most reflective evidence is going to be my new thing!
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Thanks
@jentealteach
Mrs_Krapels
Mar 16 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Thanks to everyone for a great
#sblchat
tonight - I continue to be inspired and impressed by all of you!
NoviAcademics
Mar 16 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Thank You
#sblchat
crew and SBL PLN Good Night:)
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:56 PM EDT
@perryafinch
It also takes away the potential for teachers to compare themselves w/other teachers. We are looking at standards!
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NicoleVagle
Mar 16 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Thanks for a great chat!
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A sincere thanks to everyone who contributed to our discussion on assessment tonight on
#sblchat
. Archive soon!
Link_pd
Mar 16 @ 9:57 PM EDT
How do we help Ts use assessment to drive instruction effectively & efficiently?
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PLloydHenry
Mar 16 @ 9:57 PM EDT
@VeliaViola1
@RoweRikW
great way t omove staff - knowing individual Ss/class/school profiles without essentializing Ss
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VeliaViola1
Mar 16 @ 9:57 PM EDT
@jamesmcguire85
A7 Assessments serve a purpose, exit tickets as check in's to learning.
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MrKrapels
Mar 16 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Thanks everyone in
#sblchat
for an insightful evening. Goodnight!
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Special thanks to my incredible co-moderator
@garnet_hillman
for the dedication she has to improve Students and Teachers.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:57 PM EDT
And to my amazing friend, colleague, and co-moderator
@RoweRikW
- Thank You!
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dayankee
Mar 16 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Our new 20% Time book just came out. Check it out!
https://t.co/7fKi0C1o0y
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#idedchat
#ohedchat
#1to1techat
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RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:57 PM EDT
@MrKrapels
Thank you Jeff.
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jamesmcguire85
Mar 16 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Passionate educators like you all fire me up for the day ahead! Have a great night everyone!
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MeganCMoMo
Mar 16 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Thanks for a GREAT chat!
#sblchat
https://t.co/af0TU2Mfrt
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Special thanks to my incredible co-moderator
@garnet_hillman
for the dedication she has to improve Students and Teachers.
#sblchat
VeliaViola1
Mar 16 @ 9:58 PM EDT
@PLloydHenry
@RoweRikW
yes! move together,
#teachergrowthmindset
#learnergrowhmindset
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WaltKozlowski
Mar 16 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Nothing makes time fly more quickly than a quality chat!
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PLloydHenry
Mar 16 @ 9:58 PM EDT
A7: that there are many dedicated Ts, a network ready to collaborate/support each other for the benefit of our Ss
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kenoc7
Mar 16 @ 9:58 PM EDT
A7 The ongoing need to improve assessment for learning. To help with this Canadians especially please join CAfLN. See cafln.ca
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Jodid2
Mar 16 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thanks
@garnet_hillman
,
@RoweRikW
, and
#sblchat
crew. Gotta go mull over some of these ideas... Have a great week, all!
RoweRikW
Mar 16 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Let's involve our Learners more is our assessing THIS WEEK...
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DavidHochheiser
Mar 16 @ 9:59 PM EDT
UR gifts that never goes away, leading all EDUs in right direction, for years now. psyched 2b here tonight
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https://t.co/3qTgT8Csyg
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 16 @ 9:57 PM EDT
And to my amazing friend, colleague, and co-moderator
@RoweRikW
- Thank You!
#sblchat
jentealteach
Mar 16 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thank you
@garnet_hillman
and
@RoweRikW
for an incredibly fast-paced and thought-provoking
#sblchat
tonight!
#tiredeyes
#excitedbrain
DRich0696
Mar 16 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thanks
@garnet_hillman
@RoweRikW
for a great
#sblchat
tonight (+ token
@drjolly
appearance) ! Even on spring break its a Wed must!
geradcarrier
Mar 16 @ 9:59 PM EDT
#sblchat
Thanks everyone.
conniehamilton
Mar 16 @ 9:59 PM EDT
A6: Check for understanding is not the same as formative assessment.
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