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TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:00 PM EST

Hello everyone & welcome to #NYedchat where we will be discussing the impact of testing on learning! IMPORTANT chat!

LisaMeade23 Feb 1 @ 8:00 PM EST

Lisa M, checking in for first 1/2 of #nyedchat. Then going to pout about dropping iphone in water. :***(

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:00 PM EST

@AudraB_EdTech @cvarsalona so excited that you are here Audra! Sounds like you had an awesome day today too! #NYedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:00 PM EST

Please introduce yourself to #NYEDChat: your name, role in education, & location. I'll be your greeter. https://t.co/KfuTznf8zu

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:00 PM EST

Welcome 2 #NYEDChat. Tonight’s topic: Impact of Testing on Learning w Tony Sinanis leading chat. Mod team backup https://t.co/pdolYgfbMP

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:00 PM EST

@LisaMeade23 So sorry about your iPhone. Glad that you will be a good backup for the moderating team. #NYEDChat

VictoriaCurry77 Feb 1 @ 8:00 PM EST

Hello everyone!!! #NYedchat

AudraB_EdTech Feb 1 @ 8:00 PM EST

@TonySinanis @cvarsalona i did! National History Day is ROLLING! #NYedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:01 PM EST

I am hopeful some friends will offer their take on testing & learning for #NYedchat Cc: @gpescatore25 @lisaodavis @mrsfadeji @8Amber8

sjctex Feb 1 @ 8:01 PM EST

Good evening, #NYEDChat. Elementary principal from the Dallas area joining the NY PLN this evening.

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:01 PM EST

Officially opening the doors to #NYEDChat!

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:01 PM EST

@sjctex Welcome to #NYEDChat, STeve. I'm glad you answered my tag. Good to have a voice from Texas here.

VictoriaCurry77 Feb 1 @ 8:01 PM EST

Victoria, instructional leader of a cluster of elementary schools in the Hudson Valley! #NYedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:01 PM EST

@sjctex hello Steve - thank you for joining us from TX! We are thrilled to have your voice here on #NYedchat

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:01 PM EST

@TonySinanis @lisaodavis @mrsfadeji @8Amber8 Breaking my single tasking rule to join you all on #nyedchat while I eat :):)

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:02 PM EST

@VictoriaCurry77 Welcome to #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:02 PM EST

I'm Carol, ELA Consultant from Long Island serving as greeter tonight at #NYEDChat for this not-to-be-missed convo. https://t.co/zQeyKgM7D7

top20training Feb 1 @ 8:02 PM EST

@cvarsalona Intro Tom from StPaulMN, retired 40yr HS T, now doing ProfDev w Top20.. testing = a big issue for me #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:02 PM EST

@VictoriaCurry77 Where are you from Victoria? #NYEDChat!

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:02 PM EST

@gpescatore25 YOU ROCK GWEN!!! Thank you - we need your voice here tonight on #NYedchat

sjctex Feb 1 @ 8:02 PM EST

@TonySinanis My pleasure #nyedchat

top20training Feb 1 @ 8:02 PM EST

@cvarsalona @sjctex How was everybody's Monday??? #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:02 PM EST

@VictoriaCurry77 hello Victoria- welcome to #NYedchat! @Joesanfelippofc & I spent some time in Hudson Valley last year!

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:02 PM EST

@top20training Glad that you came to #NYEDChat tonight!

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:03 PM EST

Take a moment to tag a colleague to join the #NYEDChat conversation. #growPLN https://t.co/YKKGIGpxE8

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:03 PM EST

@TonySinanis Need is a strong word! But rumor has it @lisaodavis is joining too! #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:03 PM EST

@top20training @sjctex Today was #CelebrateMOnday across Twitter-celebrating the successes in the schools. Welcome to #NYEDChat!

usabbs Feb 1 @ 8:03 PM EST

HI #nyedchat Brian from Ga

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:03 PM EST

@AudraB_EdTech Hey Audra!!! #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:03 PM EST

@gpescatore25 @TonySinanis @lisaodavis @mrsfadeji @8Amber8 Great to have you, Gwen. Welcome to #NYEDChat!

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:03 PM EST

@gpescatore25 @lisaodavis that would be pretty epic to have TWO awesome voices join us tonight on #NYedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:04 PM EST

@usabbs Hi Bobby- thank you for joining us on #NYedchat

AudraB_EdTech Feb 1 @ 8:04 PM EST

@top20training @cvarsalona @sjctex #NYedchat So busy!!! NHD projects for 7 hours!

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:04 PM EST

@VictoriaCurry77 NYS-great to have you with #nyedchat

LisaMeade23 Feb 1 @ 8:04 PM EST

Hey #edvoice @NYEdVoice fellows, Come join #NYEDchat. Talking testing and learning. You too @DeniseMToscano

AudraB_EdTech Feb 1 @ 8:04 PM EST

@gpescatore25 Hi Gwen!!!!! #NYedchat

Myers_Berkowicz Feb 1 @ 8:04 PM EST

#nyedchat Jill here ! 🤓

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:04 PM EST

@usabbs From Georgia-Welcome to #NYEDChat!

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:04 PM EST

Get ready because Q1 is coming your way #NYedchat friends...

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:04 PM EST

@Myers_Berkowicz Welcome to #NYEDChat!

JennLCI Feb 1 @ 8:04 PM EST

Jennifer - a NY-based consultant and assessment nerd. Hello! #nyedchat

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:04 PM EST

@cvarsalona @TonySinanis @lisaodavis @mrsfadeji @8Amber8 How are you? #nyedchat

CameronBerube Feb 1 @ 8:04 PM EST

#NYEDChat Evening, Cameron Berube joining, Director of Curriculum and Instruction for Providence Public Schools.

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:05 PM EST

@JennLCI Hey, Jenn. Welcome to #NYEDChat from upstate NY.

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:05 PM EST

Q1 #NYEDChat What is the relationship between learning and testing?

sjctex Feb 1 @ 8:05 PM EST

A1) Testing is one of many ways to assess student learning. Testing is usually a summative assessment. #NYEDChat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:05 PM EST

@TonySinanis All those listening in it is time to let your voice be heard with #NYEDChat!

lisaodavis Feb 1 @ 8:05 PM EST

Made it! Ready for this great discussion! @gpescatore25 @tonysinanis #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:05 PM EST

@CameronBerube hey Cameron- thank you for joining us for #NYedchat

lmcconnell108 Feb 1 @ 8:05 PM EST

#NYEDChat Good evening all! Laura from LI

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:05 PM EST

@lisaodavis @TonySinanis yahoo #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:05 PM EST

@lmcconnell108 Welcome to #NYEDChat!

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:06 PM EST

@JennLCI hey Jenn- great to have you here! Will be interested to hear your take on testing and learning. #NYedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:06 PM EST

@Myers_Berkowicz hello Jill!! How are you friend? I hope all is well!! Thanks for being here for #NYedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:06 PM EST

@lisaodavis @gpescatore25 @tonysinanis Welcome to #NYEDChat, Lisa. Glad that you are here!

dmgately Feb 1 @ 8:06 PM EST

Hello #nyedchat - happy to join tonight for this great & important topic!

lisaodavis Feb 1 @ 8:06 PM EST

@cvarsalona @gpescatore25 @tonysinanis Hi Carol! #nyedchat

Joesanfelippofc Feb 1 @ 8:06 PM EST

@TonySinanis hey! What are we taking about. I like talkin about stuff. #nyedchat

AudraB_EdTech Feb 1 @ 8:06 PM EST

@LisaMeade23 Pout away, you deserve it. #NYedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:06 PM EST

@dmgately Welcome to #NYEDChat, Danielle. Glad that you made it here tonight.

MsKavner Feb 1 @ 8:06 PM EST

Hey @AudraB_EdTech @schug_dennis @DrBillBrennan! Happy to join for a bit tonight! #nyedchat

ksampson4 Feb 1 @ 8:06 PM EST

Hello #nyedchat! I’m Kathryn from Los Angeles :)

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:06 PM EST

@gpescatore25 @lisaodavis OH YEA!! The party has officially started!! #NYedchat will be OFF DA HOOK! (Can I still say that?)

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:07 PM EST

Testing should be a diagnostic tool to inform instruction so that Ts can adjust learning as needed. #NYEDChat A1

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:07 PM EST

Maybe @TheJLV will pop in quick...mr #ThisIsNotATest #nyedchat :)

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:07 PM EST

@ksampson4 Welcome to #NYEDChat from California.

Myers_Berkowicz Feb 1 @ 8:07 PM EST

#NYEDChat A1- relationship depends on adults. If good assessment it is lrning op. If not... Stress shld b lowered. Can do

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:07 PM EST

@Joesanfelippofc LOL! We are talking about the impact of testing on learning at #NYedchat! You in?

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:07 PM EST

@MsKavner @AudraB_EdTech @schug_dennis @DrBillBrennan Glad to have you here at #NYEDChat!

MsKavner Feb 1 @ 8:07 PM EST

HI #nyedchat! Amanda, chemistry teacher here!

top20training Feb 1 @ 8:07 PM EST

@TonySinanis A1 testing = eval of where Ss are at in lrng process; testing is not a definition of Ss worth or identity #nyedchat

lmcconnell108 Feb 1 @ 8:07 PM EST

#NYEDChat Assessment is worthy IF it drives instruction.

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:08 PM EST

@MsKavner hey Amanda! Chemistry was my toughest science class in HS! Glad you are here for #NYedchat

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:08 PM EST

@TonySinanis @lisaodavis Sure! But i was called uncool tonight...so not sure I'm a good judge ; ) #nyedchat

ksampson4 Feb 1 @ 8:08 PM EST

A1: testing helps us to see what the Ss have understood- formative assessment= my fave #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:08 PM EST

@Myers_Berkowicz Stress does need to be lowered - that is for sure. #NYEDChat A1

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:08 PM EST

@Joesanfelippofc Come on- don't be so annoying! Just participate a little! Look- @gpescatore25 & @lisaodavis are here for #NYedchat

lisaodavis Feb 1 @ 8:08 PM EST

@gpescatore25 @TonySinanis It's so hard!! ;) #nyedchat

CameronBerube Feb 1 @ 8:08 PM EST

#nyedchat A1: Multiple forms of assessment allow t to analyze multiple forms of learning and allows t to reflect on impact of instruction

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:08 PM EST

@dmgately Danielle my dear! Hello! #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:08 PM EST

@TonySinanis @Joesanfelippofc Hey, Joe are you joining #NYEDChat?

blancaedu Feb 1 @ 8:08 PM EST

Evening fellow #nyedchat educators! Blanca from 38K feet up on #AA on my way to Austin. I'm an educator here to learn!

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:09 PM EST

@lisaodavis @gpescatore25 please... I am the opposite cool so whatever! LOL! #NYedchat

liv2lrn Feb 1 @ 8:09 PM EST

Hi! Judy- Library Media Specialist in K-2 Bldg Long Island joining for tonight's chat #nyedchat

lisaodavis Feb 1 @ 8:09 PM EST

@TonySinanis @Joesanfelippofc @gpescatore25 #gocrickets - we're waiting for you! #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:09 PM EST

@blancaedu YAY!!! Hey Blanca!! So glad you are here tonight for #NYedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:09 PM EST

@top20training @TonySinanis Rock it Tony. #NYEDChat A1

EdTechPeck Feb 1 @ 8:09 PM EST

A1 Place to see growth and retarget weaknesses #nyedchat

blancaedu Feb 1 @ 8:09 PM EST

Hello @cvarsalona Glad I can make it! #nyedchat

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:10 PM EST

@TonySinanis @Joesanfelippofc @lisaodavis Darn right! That means the party can start! #nyedchat

dmgately Feb 1 @ 8:10 PM EST

assessment that helps create individualized/differentiated instruction has value - it is one tool... #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:10 PM EST

@lmcconnell108 Absolutely. We have been saying this since for over a decade now. #NYEDChat A1

JeremyDBond Feb 1 @ 8:10 PM EST

@gpescatore25 @TonySinanis @lisaodavis @mrsfadeji @8Amber8 love chatting and eating. Can chat w your mouth full. So guud eefning, #NYedchat.

dmgately Feb 1 @ 8:10 PM EST

@gpescatore25 Hello my friend! #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:10 PM EST

@liv2lrn hi Judy- so great to have you here for #NYedchat tonight!

schools_AP Feb 1 @ 8:10 PM EST

#NYedchat hi guys, Jesse here. AP in the BX

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:10 PM EST

@ksampson4 Formative assessment is the means to evaluate student work daily. #NYEDChat A1

yeaitsjon Feb 1 @ 8:10 PM EST

Unique relationship between testing and learning - students should have some say in the ways they're assessed. #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:10 PM EST

@schools_AP hey Jesse- thanks for joining us for #NYedchat

dmgately Feb 1 @ 8:11 PM EST

@donald_gately is on dad duty tonight - pick up from gymnastics so here I am! #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:11 PM EST

@CameronBerube Reflection is key Cameron. #NYEDChat A1

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:11 PM EST

Don't forget to #growPLN with #NYEDChat tonight. There are good voices here.

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:11 PM EST

Darn small talk...I missed Q1 already...and now messing up # ! #NYedchat

liv2lrn Feb 1 @ 8:11 PM EST

A1: In theory, testing would be used as ONE way to asses learning- in reality, standardized testing takes time away from learning #nyedchat

schools_AP Feb 1 @ 8:11 PM EST

@TonySinanis happy to be here - lots going on in #NYedchat these days!

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:12 PM EST

@blancaedu Welcome to #NYEDChat from the air fellow co-moderator.

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:12 PM EST

First, I think there is a difference between tests & assessments. I see tests as the END of the learning... so whats the point? #NYedchat

MsKavner Feb 1 @ 8:12 PM EST

Testing should only be used to assess how much has been learned or how much more is needed to be learned #nyedchat

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:12 PM EST

@blancaedu Blanca! You are going to a fab town! Enjoy! #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:12 PM EST

@LisaMeade23 well... if you ask Paul he might disagree! LOL! Thank you though- means a lot coming from you! #NYedchat

AudraB_EdTech Feb 1 @ 8:12 PM EST

#nyedchat A1: The rlship is unique to each lrnr. Some ppl do well in a tsting situ. Some don't. All lrning doesn't have to end with a test.

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:12 PM EST

@liv2lrn Welcome to #NYEDChat Judy.

EdTechPeck Feb 1 @ 8:12 PM EST

A1 Testing feels punitive. Does not serve as a tool for analyzing learning #nyedchat

top20training Feb 1 @ 8:12 PM EST

@cvarsalona @ksampson4 A1 testing at its essence = merely feedback for T to decide on next move in process #nyedchat

RossCoops31 Feb 1 @ 8:13 PM EST

A1: Testing is ONE WAY for students to demonstrate what is learned. #nyedchat #nyed

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:13 PM EST

@EdTechPeck Like that term retarget, Mike. #NYEDChat A1

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:13 PM EST

@schools_AP oh yea- we are on fire here at #NYedchat! Thanks to peeps like @cvarsalona @LisaMeade23 @VictoriaL_Day & @blancaedu!

YangSkene Feb 1 @ 8:13 PM EST

happy to be here - lots going on in #NYedchat these days! https://t.co/rtLcHweAZs

Jon_Not_Jacob Feb 1 @ 8:11 PM EST

It's going to be a strange 10 years... https://t.co/QQJ5eNMIcA

EdCampBROOKLYN Feb 1 @ 8:13 PM EST

Evening everyone! Never been in this chat, jumping in for a few before dinner. Topic? #nyedchat

pomdr Feb 1 @ 8:13 PM EST

A1 #NYEDchat There’s a relationship between testing and learning?!

ksampson4 Feb 1 @ 8:13 PM EST

@cvarsalona Absolutely. Ss should always have a sense of where they are in their learning. #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:13 PM EST

@dmgately One Tool-YES! #NYEDChat A1

dmgately Feb 1 @ 8:13 PM EST

@AudraB_EdTech Great point - assessment looks like many different things! Knowing what kids know does not = a test! #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:13 PM EST

@EdCampBROOKLYN welcome! We are discussing the impact of testing on learning here at #NYedchat tonight

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:13 PM EST

@JeremyDBond @gpescatore25 @TonySinanis @lisaodavis @mrsfadeji @8Amber8 Glad you joined us Jeremy. #NYEDChat A1

schools_AP Feb 1 @ 8:13 PM EST

#NYedchat A1: Standardized exams are for: Ts, schools, policymakers, politicians. students don't really benefit.

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:14 PM EST

@schools_AP Welcome to #NYEDChat Jesse.

EdCampBROOKLYN Feb 1 @ 8:14 PM EST

@cvarsalona Hello Carol. Greetings! #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:14 PM EST

@pomdr LOL! Great question! #NYedchat

Joesanfelippofc Feb 1 @ 8:14 PM EST

@TonySinanis @gpescatore25 @lisaodavis ugh. Fine. Ask a question. #Nyedchat

CameronBerube Feb 1 @ 8:14 PM EST

#NYEDChat But what is a test? Can a formative assess task be a test? Can it be a milestone along the way of full mastery?

ksampson4 Feb 1 @ 8:14 PM EST

@top20training @cvarsalona Yes! And for Ss to know where they are. #nyedchat

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:14 PM EST

A1 I think it depends on the type of test & how the results are being used #NYedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:14 PM EST

@Joesanfelippofc @gpescatore25 @lisaodavis get ready because Q2 is coming in a minute! #NYedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:14 PM EST

@TonySinanis @schools_AP @LisaMeade23 @VictoriaL_Day @blancaedu Got to love our #NYEDChat team!

KS_EdMktg Feb 1 @ 8:14 PM EST

A1. Testing is one way of assessing learning. It also tests how well S takes tests--NOT necessarily the same as learning. :) #nyedchat

JennLCI Feb 1 @ 8:15 PM EST

A1: I struggle a bit with this chat due to my own semantic hangups. "Tests" are the #40 torx bit driver of the assessment toolbox. #NYedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:15 PM EST

Q2 #NYEDChat What are some of the best ways to assess learning?

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:15 PM EST

@top20training @ksampson4 Next moves are important-feedback is useful is we have a watchful eye. #NYEDChat A1

golliharsclass Feb 1 @ 8:15 PM EST

#nyedchat hey everyone. Landing here from Texas. 4th grade teacher and #edchat junkie!

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:15 PM EST

@gpescatore25 totally agree Gwen... the make up & purpose of the test are two critical things to consider when determining value! #NYedchat

EdCampBROOKLYN Feb 1 @ 8:15 PM EST

@TonySinanis Hello Doc! Thanks I'm in! Open discussion or questions posted somewhere? #nyedchat

sjctex Feb 1 @ 8:15 PM EST

A2) Informal assessments, like good CFU questions drive instruction - diagnoses for learning instead of autopsies. #NYEDChat

Kpteach5 Feb 1 @ 8:15 PM EST

@blancaedu @dmgately Most definitely!! #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:15 PM EST

@yeaitsjon Yes, a vote for #stuvoice with a choice. #NYEDChat A1

EdTechPeck Feb 1 @ 8:15 PM EST

@cvarsalona Thanks, when the grade is given the learning is reaching end Feedback on results can keep the thought moving forward #nyedchat

dmgately Feb 1 @ 8:15 PM EST

Assessment also helps teachers modify their instruction - have they met their learning target(s)? #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:15 PM EST

@golliharsclass hello & welcome! So glad to have your voice with us for #NYedchat tonight!

lisaodavis Feb 1 @ 8:15 PM EST

A2 I think assessments look different for different grades. #nyedchat

mrsfadeji Feb 1 @ 8:15 PM EST

Wish I could join #nyedchat but I'm soaking up my last few mins w/ @chadkafka and @jheil65..... https://t.co/pe9HMvyO1C

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:16 PM EST

@gpescatore25 LOL Gwen. Jump in #NYEDChat A1

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:16 PM EST

@mrsfadeji @chadkafka @jheil65 so jealous that they get to be in a car with you @mrsfadeji! Someday I will get a chance! #NYedchat

CameronBerube Feb 1 @ 8:16 PM EST

@schools_AP #NYedchat it depends upon feedback cycle and time for s to unpack strength and struggle in terms of their larger trajectory

KS_EdMktg Feb 1 @ 8:16 PM EST

A2. We support #PBL approach--best (summative) assessment is if S can practice and apply knowledge IRL. Not just regurgitate it. #nyedchat

top20training Feb 1 @ 8:16 PM EST

@TonySinanis A2 one method I failed to use enough? just ASKING Ss where they're at, straight up...w/no grades involved #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:17 PM EST

#NYEDChat A2 Some great way to assess learning daily: reflections, formative (informal) assessment tools>rubrics, self-check lists, talk

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:17 PM EST

@dmgately @AudraB_EdTech Agree. Don't object to using to understand comprehension...but that means there's work after the test. #nyedchat

lisaodavis Feb 1 @ 8:17 PM EST

A2 Testing shouldn't be invasive in the learning process. It certainly should not take too much time away from learning. #nyedchat

AudraB_EdTech Feb 1 @ 8:17 PM EST

@CameronBerube Sure, but does it count for the state, APPR or any other government unfunded mandate? ##NYedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:17 PM EST

@top20training that is a great point. Just talk to kids & ask open ended Qs like... what are you doing? Why are you doing it? #NYedchat

schools_AP Feb 1 @ 8:17 PM EST

A2: on-going, quick checks for understanding that create feedback loops and inform instructional decisions #NYedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:17 PM EST

@liv2lrn Formative assessments-1 measure 2 inform https://t.co/FtzEOJrl7p relationships w your students 2know their strengths. #NYEDChat A1

Joesanfelippofc Feb 1 @ 8:17 PM EST

A2: student conferences. Let kids demonstrate their knowledge through conversation. #NYedchat

blancaedu Feb 1 @ 8:17 PM EST

Test definition I found online: take measures to check the quality/perf/reliability of someone/thing by putting them under strain #nyedchat

EdCampBROOKLYN Feb 1 @ 8:17 PM EST

@blancaedu What a way to chat Blanca! #teachersrock #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:18 PM EST

@EdCampBROOKLYN we have some questions for tonight's discussion. We are on Q2 but feel free to share whatever you want! #NYedchat

ksampson4 Feb 1 @ 8:18 PM EST

A2: So many ways to assess learning. The best ways depend on the goal & the Ss. Many Ss have diff. ways of showing knowledge #nyedchat

top20training Feb 1 @ 8:18 PM EST

@CameronBerube @schools_AP luv words strength/struggled...also use "what clicked?" vs "what clunked?" when assessing Ss' progress #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:18 PM EST

@schools_AP @TonySinanis #NYEDChat is the voice of NYS and beyond. We love to rock Twitter with proud voices.

VictoriaCurry77 Feb 1 @ 8:18 PM EST

Conference notes (using tools like @conferapp) are a great way to assess. authentic conversation with learning goals in mind #NYedchat

EdTechPeck Feb 1 @ 8:18 PM EST

A2 By doing. Huge fan of PBL as a way to leverage tech. Allows students to explore standards rather than follow them. #nyedchat

JeremyDBond Feb 1 @ 8:18 PM EST

@CameronBerube @schools_AP sounds funny, but not everything schools do with students is for their benefit. Sometimes that's OK. #NYedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:18 PM EST

@Joesanfelippofc @TonySinanis @gpescatore25 @lisaodavis Yea! Joe is here. #NYEDChat

AudraB_EdTech Feb 1 @ 8:18 PM EST

@dmgately Absolutely! Formative assessment is great for Teachers! Great for students. #NYedchat

liv2lrn Feb 1 @ 8:18 PM EST

A2: Being new to K-2, I am learning new ways S long assessed- rubrics for drawings, tech projects, writing, etc. #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:18 PM EST

After teaching K today at #Cantiague, I ended our day with tweets from the kids about their experiences! Formative assessment! #NYedchat

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:18 PM EST

Absolutely! KG & HS cannot be assessed in the same way #nyedchat https://t.co/3tmusINZ0g

lisaodavis Feb 1 @ 8:15 PM EST

A2 I think assessments look different for different grades. #nyedchat

Myers_Berkowicz Feb 1 @ 8:19 PM EST

#NYedchat A2 most do not know enough abt assessment .. Admit it.. Too many variables. Bst way? Guess answer is "depends"..

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:19 PM EST

@CameronBerube Why do we have to call formative assessment a test? It is a valid measure to inform instruction. #NYEDChat A1

MsKavner Feb 1 @ 8:19 PM EST

A2 Having students show you examples of using knowledge like labs in science or proofs in math are great assessments #nyedchat

golliharsclass Feb 1 @ 8:19 PM EST

#NYedchat A2: formative assessments work best for me and my students. I also love prescriptive HW to address areas that need work.

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:19 PM EST

@gpescatore25 Absolutely, Gwen. #NYEDChat A1

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:19 PM EST

@top20training @TonySinanis amazing what you learn from a conversation #nyedchat

JeremyDBond Feb 1 @ 8:20 PM EST

@TonySinanis what's the point of teacher-administered tests? Or are you calling those assessments? #NYedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:20 PM EST

@KS_EdMktg Welcome to #NYEDChat. A1

golliharsclass Feb 1 @ 8:20 PM EST

#NYedchat A1: purpose of assessment is to guide instruction. So what's the point of State Assessment? Does it guide anything?

EdCampBROOKLYN Feb 1 @ 8:20 PM EST

@liv2lrn So agreed here Judy, especially with schools STILL doing the kill/drill/skill and STOP teaching to roboticize 'test prep' #nyedchat

KS_EdMktg Feb 1 @ 8:20 PM EST

@cvarsalona Thx! Popped in months ago. Topic is interesting today since we offer a rubric maker tool. :) #nyedchat

kemnitzer3 Feb 1 @ 8:20 PM EST

Jumping in late but wanted to learn from these rockstars! #nyedchat

liv2lrn Feb 1 @ 8:21 PM EST

My favorite way to assess!! #nyedchat https://t.co/JlWvlaLoJy

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:17 PM EST

@top20training that is a great point. Just talk to kids & ask open ended Qs like... what are you doing? Why are you doing it? #NYedchat

blancaedu Feb 1 @ 8:21 PM EST

@Joesanfelippofc Some of my favorite ways to support educators, students and leaders is to engage in healthy conversation. #nyedchat

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:21 PM EST

That is horrible! Strain is included in the def?? #nyedchat https://t.co/7RgF5fmv3e

blancaedu Feb 1 @ 8:17 PM EST

Test definition I found online: take measures to check the quality/perf/reliability of someone/thing by putting them under strain #nyedchat

AudraB_EdTech Feb 1 @ 8:21 PM EST

#NYedchat A2: As it's happening... formative assessment. PearDeck, Kahoot! When you know what's happening AS you're teaching - it's great!

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:21 PM EST

@JeremyDBond I am not sure what the point is... just asking the Qs... dont necessarily have the answers! :) #NYedchat

pomdr Feb 1 @ 8:21 PM EST

A2 #NYEDChat Some of the best ways to assess L lead to student clarification & deeper understanding. PBL, inquiry, constrctvsm, etc are oppo

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:21 PM EST

@kemnitzer3 whats up Ed?? So great to have you here at #NYedchat

CameronBerube Feb 1 @ 8:21 PM EST

@cvarsalona #nyedchat wish test wasn't a 4 letter word. Just semantics...what is the checkpoint for s and t? How do they know? What's next?

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:22 PM EST

@EdCampBROOKLYN @TonySinanis Q Doc for those who missed it. #NYEDChat https://t.co/UZyEaNHrug

Myers_Berkowicz Feb 1 @ 8:22 PM EST

@golliharsclass different purpose. One is to guide and one is to measure #nyedchat

EdCampBROOKLYN Feb 1 @ 8:22 PM EST

@TonySinanis Truth Doc and we all know there is NO END to true learning. #ongoing #onward #nyedchat

blancaedu Feb 1 @ 8:22 PM EST

@cvarsalona @CameronBerube Maybe if we eliminated the word "test", the conversation would change. Like the word train vs PD #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:22 PM EST

Assessments should inform our craft, help enhance our skill set & impact the trajectory of our instruction. #NYedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:22 PM EST

@Kpteach5 @blancaedu @dmgately Welcome to #NYEDChat tonight, Kristen. Glad to have you here.

kemnitzer3 Feb 1 @ 8:22 PM EST

@TonySinanis @kemnitzer3 Thanks! Hope all is well by you. #nyedchat

EdCampBROOKLYN Feb 1 @ 8:23 PM EST

@cvarsalona @TonySinanis Many thanks Carol! #nyedchat

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:23 PM EST

@TonySinanis I love what @JohnFritzky used to have his (older) Ss do...write tweets summarizing learning #nyedchat

Kpteach5 Feb 1 @ 8:23 PM EST

@blancaedu @Joesanfelippofc I learn the most about my students by listening to them! #nyedchat

cultofpedagogy Feb 1 @ 8:23 PM EST

Absolutely right! #NYEdchat https://t.co/2IhRh7AWQB

lisaodavis Feb 1 @ 8:17 PM EST

A2 Testing shouldn't be invasive in the learning process. It certainly should not take too much time away from learning. #nyedchat

Mrreiff Feb 1 @ 8:23 PM EST

A2: I leave that up to my Ss. Its the same assessment every time: Show me what you have learned. The rest is up to them #nyedchat

golliharsclass Feb 1 @ 8:23 PM EST

#nyedchat A2: I also use a #DLIQ board where Ss "tweet" using 140 characters- what they did, what they learned, what was interesting & ?s

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:23 PM EST

@sjctex Right STeve. Love that you have a positive spin for us. #NYEDChat A2

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:23 PM EST

@gpescatore25 @JohnFritzky John is awesome- I've learned a LOT from him! #NYedchat

pomdr Feb 1 @ 8:23 PM EST

@blancaedu Yes! Train is for dogs…learning is for people! #NYEDChat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:24 PM EST

Q3 #NYEDChat How do we avoid putting the emphasis on testing and keep it on learning?

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:24 PM EST

Get ready for Q3 my #NYedchat friends!! Tonight is AWESOME so far!!!

blancaedu Feb 1 @ 8:24 PM EST

@TonySinanis Yes, TONY, so do I! #nyedchat

kemnitzer3 Feb 1 @ 8:24 PM EST

Once a paper or test gets a grade, more often than not, the learning ends. #nyedchat

top20training Feb 1 @ 8:24 PM EST

@blancaedu @cvarsalona @CameronBerube "test" meaning comes a lot from parents...they got the idea of test = my worth as Ss #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:24 PM EST

@dmgately Yes, it provides the bridge to next steps. #NYEDChat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:24 PM EST

AMEN! #NYedchat https://t.co/JSynfGcEad

kemnitzer3 Feb 1 @ 8:24 PM EST

Once a paper or test gets a grade, more often than not, the learning ends. #nyedchat

blancaedu Feb 1 @ 8:24 PM EST

@TonySinanis Why not begin a conversation with staff Tuesday morning by eliminating the word test? Caused me anxiety as a child #nyedchat

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:24 PM EST

@TonySinanis @JohnFritzky << awesomeness who I haven't seen in what seems like for-ever!! #nyedchat

RossCoops31 Feb 1 @ 8:24 PM EST

A2: Ideally, students take ownership by assessing their own learning. @mssackstein #nyedchat #nyed

JennLCI Feb 1 @ 8:24 PM EST

@gpescatore25 @blancaedu I wrote a bit here about the definition: https://t.co/jgi69W5wXX #nyedchat

lisaodavis Feb 1 @ 8:24 PM EST

A3 Create a culture of learning. Focus on the new challenges, tests can't be the focus #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:24 PM EST

@blancaedu Totally agree Blanca... and while we are at it, can we eliminate the word HW too? #NYedchat

JeremyDBond Feb 1 @ 8:25 PM EST

@TonySinanis it's the questions that matter. :) #NYedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:25 PM EST

@top20training @blancaedu @CameronBerube That is a shame - tests are not connected to a S's worth although some think that. #NYEDChat

golliharsclass Feb 1 @ 8:25 PM EST

#nyedchat a2: @padlet is great as #formativeassessment too!

EdTechPeck Feb 1 @ 8:25 PM EST

Boom! There it is! #nyedchat https://t.co/rKTVnZQwGz

RossCoops31 Feb 1 @ 8:24 PM EST

A2: Ideally, students take ownership by assessing their own learning. @mssackstein #nyedchat #nyed

kemnitzer3 Feb 1 @ 8:25 PM EST

A3: No grades should be set in stone until the last week of the quarter. Allows students to revise and revisit all learning. #nyedchat

Myers_Berkowicz Feb 1 @ 8:25 PM EST

#NYEDChat A3 just do it!

EdCampBROOKLYN Feb 1 @ 8:25 PM EST

@top20training @TonySinanis Genius! Cause 'out of the mouths of babes' IS as authentic data as it gets, right? #nyedchat

AudraB_EdTech Feb 1 @ 8:25 PM EST

@kemnitzer3 Yep #NYedchat

CameronBerube Feb 1 @ 8:25 PM EST

#nyedchat A3: See assessment as a part of the learning cycle...

blancaedu Feb 1 @ 8:25 PM EST

@top20training @cvarsalona @CameronBerube How can we start to change that perception? Bc in this world often perception is reality #nyedchat

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:25 PM EST

As it should be! #nyedchat https://t.co/S3iH5AVFb1

Kpteach5 Feb 1 @ 8:23 PM EST

@blancaedu @Joesanfelippofc I learn the most about my students by listening to them! #nyedchat

Kpteach5 Feb 1 @ 8:25 PM EST

@cvarsalona @blancaedu @dmgately Just dropping by before Kyle's bedtime! Important topic. #nyedchat

sjctex Feb 1 @ 8:25 PM EST

A3) Focus on learning skills instead of test prep. Teach students to think and reason - plenty of OER opportunities. #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:25 PM EST

@CameronBerube yes... exactly... it is cyclical in nature! #NYedchat

lisaodavis Feb 1 @ 8:26 PM EST

A3 It's very hard to break the focus on scores. As a parent, It's really a challenge. #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:26 PM EST

#NYEDChat A3 Focus on learning through collaborative tasks without TEST PREP (old school formula that is not proven to be effective).

RossCoops31 Feb 1 @ 8:26 PM EST

A3: Establish a culture of standards based learning. Focus is on the...learning, not accountability. #nyedchat #nyed

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:26 PM EST

@Kpteach5 @blancaedu @dmgately Yes this is a topic worth not missing. #NYEDChat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:26 PM EST

YES! Families must be part of this conversation on testing, assessments & grades too! #NYedchat https://t.co/Ybq2rGKYXt

lisaodavis Feb 1 @ 8:26 PM EST

A3 It's very hard to break the focus on scores. As a parent, It's really a challenge. #nyedchat

FredEnde Feb 1 @ 8:26 PM EST

Hey #NYEDChat. Popping in for a few!

blancaedu Feb 1 @ 8:26 PM EST

@TonySinanis You're the boss! I understand your concerns with HW well! I'd say, ask the kids! #nyedchat

AudraB_EdTech Feb 1 @ 8:26 PM EST

A3 #nyedchat By downplaying it to the Ss, by trying to infuse all lessons with fun, real-wrld applic, and refusing to allow it to control us

Mrreiff Feb 1 @ 8:26 PM EST

@RossCoops31 @mssackstein Exactly why I let students make their own rubrics. They set the bar a lot higher than I might #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:26 PM EST

@FredEnde hey Fred! Welcome! So glad you could join us for #NYedchat tonight!

KS_EdMktg Feb 1 @ 8:27 PM EST

A3. Focus on understanding & applying the concepts, knowledge in diff ways. So Ss don't feel like they need to only learn 4 test. #nyedchat

Kpteach5 Feb 1 @ 8:27 PM EST

@kemnitzer3 Absolutely! Just had this convo with @JessLif yesterday about the difference between grading writing & giving feedback #nyedchat

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:27 PM EST

A3 Stop focusing on the grade/number & rewarding/punishing for it. Focus on the learning happening #NYedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:27 PM EST

@blancaedu I am on it my friend! Talking HW tomorrow at our Faculty gathering! Cannot wait! #NYedchat

blancaedu Feb 1 @ 8:27 PM EST

@CameronBerube I like the word milestone very much! It reminds me of a celebration. Like 4 more yrs to another milestone for me. #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:27 PM EST

@blancaedu @top20training @CameronBerube Need to turn tides so we go back to idea of assessment helping not hindering. #NYEDChat

FredEnde Feb 1 @ 8:27 PM EST

A3. Work to set goals that are meaningful to all learners. And then approach tests as just a bump int he road. #NYEDChat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:27 PM EST

@jlerea AMEN Joseph! We learn a lot through social exchanges! #NYedchat

TheAnswerPad Feb 1 @ 8:27 PM EST

Anna @TheAnswerPad here. Great topic tonight #nyedchat. Hope you don't mind if I lurke, listen and learn :)

ksampson4 Feb 1 @ 8:27 PM EST

Totally agree. When this ≠ the school’s philosophy though it can be hard for Ts. Real world tasks help #nyedchat https://t.co/lkegZTBNTd

RossCoops31 Feb 1 @ 8:26 PM EST

A3: Establish a culture of standards based learning. Focus is on the...learning, not accountability. #nyedchat #nyed

golliharsclass Feb 1 @ 8:27 PM EST

#nyedchat A3: #PBL is a great way to #engage Ss & teach them to be real world problem solvers. Let Ss build their understanding themselves

CameronBerube Feb 1 @ 8:27 PM EST

@blancaedu @top20training @cvarsalona #Nyedchat By emphasizing it as a tool for improvement not a number. Digging in to info to grow.

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:28 PM EST

@top20training @blancaedu @cvarsalona @CameronBerube I'd caution grouping ppl :) Not all feel that way #nyedchat

leefink Feb 1 @ 8:28 PM EST

A2 Through real world app. A struggling reader could not read a map,could chart distance, streets, & time from jogging routine #nyedchat

FredEnde Feb 1 @ 8:28 PM EST

A3. And also, help learners see the difference between tests and assessments, and welcome assessments for learning. #NYEDChat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:28 PM EST

@timmac55 @Joesanfelippofc start with some mock conferences; have Ts & Ss role play! They need to be prepared. #NYedchat

schools_AP Feb 1 @ 8:28 PM EST

#NYedchat A3: why do we score? To rank, skim and sort? The motivate? Embarrass? Classify?

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:28 PM EST

@kemnitzer3 We need to dissuade Ts from relying on test prep to dub for learning. It is not about a score in the long run. #NYEDChat

blancaedu Feb 1 @ 8:28 PM EST

@Kpteach5 @dmgately How can we help to change the perception of assessment? Is one way to eliminate the word? Parent letters? What?#nyedchat

pomdr Feb 1 @ 8:28 PM EST

A3. Focus on the student’s learning. Assessments as mentioned before help lead the way. Ss interest in the topic always helps. #NYEDChat

FredEnde Feb 1 @ 8:28 PM EST

@TonySinanis Hey Tony! Glad I can hang with y'all for a bit. #NYEDChat

Mrreiff Feb 1 @ 8:28 PM EST

@gpescatore25 Totally agree,I wish my Ss would buy into this philosophy. Sometimes the focus on grades gets in the way of learning #nyedchat

EdCampBROOKLYN Feb 1 @ 8:29 PM EST

@cvarsalona Been on passionate entrance/exit slip journey. Quick, text specific questions feedback intense w/Ss actively engaged #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:29 PM EST

Thanks to @mssackstein, I am totally open to the ideas behind HACKING ASSESSMENT & throwing out the grades! Cc: @markbarnes19 #NYedchat

schools_AP Feb 1 @ 8:29 PM EST

#NYedchat A3: If we want the emphasis on learning, we need all scores/ grade to be progress-based, not performance-based

dmgately Feb 1 @ 8:29 PM EST

@blancaedu @Kpteach5 We need to work to create a culture of learning first - the process has to be more imp than the grade... #nyedchat

liv2lrn Feb 1 @ 8:29 PM EST

A3: Variety. Continuing to try new things. Collaborating. Professional development. Keeping our own learning fresh! #nyedchat

Vroom6 Feb 1 @ 8:29 PM EST

Running late to #nyedchat. Saying hello from Central Ohio. Glad to be here.

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:29 PM EST

@gpescatore25 @top20training @blancaedu @CameronBerube Yes you are right, Gwen. #NYEDChat

Myers_Berkowicz Feb 1 @ 8:29 PM EST

@FredEnde prefer there is no diff. #NYedchat

blancaedu Feb 1 @ 8:29 PM EST

@TonySinanis Good luck with that Tony - now THAT would be a periscope worth watching! #nyedchat

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:29 PM EST

@kemnitzer3 which defeats the purpose. No? I never understand marking something wrong w/o explaining & helping to understand after #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:30 PM EST

@lisaodavis I hear you Lisa. #NYEDChat A3

VictoriaCurry77 Feb 1 @ 8:30 PM EST

@EdCampBROOKLYN @cvarsalona check out @plickers you will be in love!! #NYedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:30 PM EST

@blancaedu LOL! Maybe I will get someone to @periscopeco it! I am all about transparency #NYedchat

EdCampBROOKLYN Feb 1 @ 8:30 PM EST

@EdTechPeck Yes! What Mike said!!! #nyedchat

dmgately Feb 1 @ 8:30 PM EST

@kemnitzer3 Absolutely - this reinforces the fixed mindset - kids don't develop the grit needed to fail well #nyedchat

sjctex Feb 1 @ 8:30 PM EST

We had Rick Wormeli with us in August. He really challenges the status quo with SBL. #nyedchat

lisaodavis Feb 1 @ 8:31 PM EST

@cvarsalona Especially in HS - when GPA and scores are first and foremost! #nyedchat

FredEnde Feb 1 @ 8:31 PM EST

@Myers_Berkowicz But there is a difference, and an important one. We need assessment, but we don't necessarily need tests. #NYEDChat

CameronBerube Feb 1 @ 8:31 PM EST

#nyedchat A3: Moving to a standards based grading system supports moving the convo to competency rather than focus on grade for s and p

Mrreiff Feb 1 @ 8:31 PM EST

A3: Allow students to show their understanding through methods other than a test or an essay. #nyedchat

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:31 PM EST

@Mrreiff But get it. My kids know my thoughts - but also worry bc a grade impacts future classes & things like HR #nyedchat

Joesanfelippofc Feb 1 @ 8:31 PM EST

A3: emphasis on feedback & growth. Giving a student a grade with no feedback is one of the worst things that we can do. #NYedchat

EdCampBROOKLYN Feb 1 @ 8:31 PM EST

@VictoriaCurry77 @cvarsalona @plickers Oh goodness! Can't even wait Victoria! TY will do 🤓 #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:31 PM EST

@RossCoops31 Thanks for joining #NYEDChat tonight Ross. Yes a culture of standards-based learning focuses on a positive approach to learning

Myers_Berkowicz Feb 1 @ 8:31 PM EST

#NYEDChat can teachers ignore the grade they receive? No. So Ss and Ps won't b able 2 either. Need a re- valuing.. Assessments for learning

blancaedu Feb 1 @ 8:32 PM EST

@gpescatore25 @top20training @cvarsalona @CameronBerube So true Gwen. Let's not forget the media frenzy around scores either! #nyedchat

ksampson4 Feb 1 @ 8:32 PM EST

@FredEnde @Myers_Berkowicz Good point! I like the way you said this :) #nyedchat

CameronBerube Feb 1 @ 8:32 PM EST

@sjctex #nyedchat Exactly, moves the focus to a cycle, to multiple opportunities to demonstrate mastery.

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:32 PM EST

If an assessment doesn't help a student learn & grow, then I kinda think it is a waste of time. #NYedchat

golliharsclass Feb 1 @ 8:32 PM EST

#nyedchat A3: There has to be a balance- test prep and student-directed learning- often it's hard to do them both in isolation.

Kpteach5 Feb 1 @ 8:32 PM EST

@cvarsalona @blancaedu @top20training It's a shame states have reduced Ts worth to a score.Exaxtly what NOT to do for Ss #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:32 PM EST

@TonySinanis @blancaedu @periscopeco Transparency is the way to go. #NYEDChat

RossCoops31 Feb 1 @ 8:33 PM EST

@cvarsalona Hey, hope all is well, Carol! #nyedchat

Myers_Berkowicz Feb 1 @ 8:33 PM EST

@FredEnde accountability has a role and must b a factor #NYEDChat

JennLCI Feb 1 @ 8:33 PM EST

@FredEnde @Myers_Berkowicz the teeny tiny push back there might be that we at 1 or 10 feet from Ss don't but those at 100 feet do. #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:33 PM EST

If we have to "prep" kids for a test, then we need to rethink our instruction! Sound instruction trumps all test prep. #NYedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:33 PM EST

@gpescatore25 Yes, well said. Make learning exciting and engaging for all students (every day). #NYEDChat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:33 PM EST

Get ready for Q4 #NYedchat friends!

FredEnde Feb 1 @ 8:33 PM EST

@ksampson4 @Myers_Berkowicz When assessments are designed "for" learning and not just "of" it makes a difference. #NYEDChat

mritzius Feb 1 @ 8:33 PM EST

Isn't this contradictory? The whole point of the standard is to hold someone accountable to it #nyedchat https://t.co/8sh9KxkgvV

RossCoops31 Feb 1 @ 8:26 PM EST

A3: Establish a culture of standards based learning. Focus is on the...learning, not accountability. #nyedchat #nyed

leefink Feb 1 @ 8:33 PM EST

@TonySinanis according to @ThePrincetonRev ACT tests knowledge SAT tests ability, neither necessarily tests learning. #nyedchat

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:33 PM EST

@blancaedu @top20training @cvarsalona @CameronBerube Media - & the fear of those fr above that prevent Ts etc fr doing what's best #nyedchat

Myers_Berkowicz Feb 1 @ 8:33 PM EST

@golliharsclass agree bad test but need good ones for accountability measures 🤓 #NYedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:34 PM EST

Q4 #NYEDChat What forms of data are most useful when planning for future learning opportunities?

kemnitzer3 Feb 1 @ 8:34 PM EST

How many Ts give extra assignments because they are told parents need to see grades in the portal?!! #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:34 PM EST

@leefink @ThePrincetonRev that is a sad situation in my opinion! #NYedchat

FredEnde Feb 1 @ 8:34 PM EST

@sjctex NYSED doesn't say that tests and assessments are equal. They just require tests and not assessments for learning. #NYEDChat

leefink Feb 1 @ 8:34 PM EST

A1 Learning is in motion, test results are static snapshot.#nyedchat

KS_EdMktg Feb 1 @ 8:34 PM EST

@TonySinanis @leefink @ThePrincetonRev Hopefully we'll see changes reflected in the new SATs coming out this year. #nyedchat

JohnFritzky Feb 1 @ 8:35 PM EST

@gpescatore25 @TonySinanis thanks guys, was a great way to assess S learning & they liked it. Need to catch up w both of you soon #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:35 PM EST

@Kpteach5 @blancaedu @top20training It's not about score (so many of us believethis) but it's hard to convince Ss when # is there. #NYEDChat

FredEnde Feb 1 @ 8:35 PM EST

A4. For me, data collected that goes over a continuous period of time and can be acted upon. #NYEDChat

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:35 PM EST

@lisaodavis @cvarsalona Makes it near impossible for kids to not focus on the number over learning. #nyedchat

JennLCI Feb 1 @ 8:35 PM EST

@TonySinanis Agreed. Except one small caveat - even the best drivers need to learn parallel parking skills to pass the test. #nyedchat

Mrreiff Feb 1 @ 8:35 PM EST

A4: Regular student feedback surveys and my reflective blogs. #nyedchat

blancaedu Feb 1 @ 8:35 PM EST

@Kpteach5 @Joesanfelippofc How old are your students Kristen? #nyedchat

FredEnde Feb 1 @ 8:35 PM EST

A4. Data collected can['t happen just at the end of learning. Needs to be throughout! #NYEDChat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:35 PM EST

@mritzius @RossCoops31 I dont necessarily think so Mike; I see standards as establishing the "floor" for what "should" be taught. #NYedchat

VictoriaCurry77 Feb 1 @ 8:35 PM EST

A4. To plan future Learning we need to know what Ss are interested in. Then we need to connect them to others! #NYEDChat

lisaodavis Feb 1 @ 8:35 PM EST

@gpescatore25 @cvarsalona That's the truth. I'm not sure I can see any other way with college applications looming. #nyedchat

JennLCI Feb 1 @ 8:36 PM EST

@TonySinanis there's so much research about test prep we don't talk about, alas. #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:36 PM EST

#NYEDChat A4 I like to kidwatch to record interactions & responses to learning. Collaborative talk offers info for group work-rubrics too.

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:36 PM EST

@Joesanfelippofc Absolutely Joe. We need to conference with #students. #NYEDChat A3

kemnitzer3 Feb 1 @ 8:36 PM EST

A4: Useful data comes from activities that make sense in the moment and provide info for the future. @PearDeck #nyedchat

Kpteach5 Feb 1 @ 8:36 PM EST

@dmgately @blancaedu I try very hard to impress upon parents that I'm looking at growth,progress, and self reflection-not a grade.#nyedchat

JeremyDBond Feb 1 @ 8:36 PM EST

@top20training #Parents don't have much else. Tests can be the "easy way out" of truly engaging Ps on how their kids are learning. #NYedchat

FredEnde Feb 1 @ 8:36 PM EST

@Myers_Berkowicz Agreed. But should accountability be based on standardized measures, or something else? #NYEDChat

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:36 PM EST

Yes it is! #nyedchat https://t.co/xAl4RpXtVH

Joesanfelippofc Feb 1 @ 8:31 PM EST

A3: emphasis on feedback & growth. Giving a student a grade with no feedback is one of the worst things that we can do. #NYedchat

RossCoops31 Feb 1 @ 8:36 PM EST

A4: Assessments that assess transfer of content to unique contexts for deeper understanding. #NYEDChat

liv2lrn Feb 1 @ 8:36 PM EST

Absolutely. But APPR holds Ts accountable for Ss test scores creating the test-prep-pressure-cycle #nyedchat https://t.co/rS9VyJLtzP

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:33 PM EST

If we have to "prep" kids for a test, then we need to rethink our instruction! Sound instruction trumps all test prep. #NYedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:36 PM EST

@lisaodavis @gpescatore25 We all have to live with the system for now. That is why voice is important. #NYEDChat

CameronBerube Feb 1 @ 8:36 PM EST

#nyedchat A4: Student friendly data that they can track for themselves as checkpoints of progress towards mastery of their larger goals.

alexstubenbort Feb 1 @ 8:36 PM EST

A4:portfolios showing mastery of benchmarks in a S selected way puts data in their hands. It's archaic to rely on test data alone. #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:37 PM EST

@JennLCI I do agree Jenn and successful drivers learn to drive from the best teachers; not just by prepping to pass the test! #NYedchat

mritzius Feb 1 @ 8:37 PM EST

@TonySinanis @RossCoops31 "should"...another word associated with accountability ;) #nyedchat

schools_AP Feb 1 @ 8:37 PM EST

#NYedchat A4: interest surveys and learning style-preference sheets

sjctex Feb 1 @ 8:37 PM EST

A4) Prior learning is essential. Where are students starting? Also teacher data – how did my students learn this last year? #NYEDChat

golliharsclass Feb 1 @ 8:37 PM EST

#nyedchat A4: #fomativeassessment is best for classroom info & setting up learning opps. Benchmarks are helpful for keeping up with curric

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:37 PM EST

@leefink The key word is snapshot (in time). We all need to believe this in order for change to happen. #NYEDChat A1

blancaedu Feb 1 @ 8:37 PM EST

@gpescatore25 Yes, isn't that crazy? That is def 2. https://t.co/o1ZkHFqZSV #nyedchat

EdCampBROOKLYN Feb 1 @ 8:37 PM EST

@TonySinanis THIS is biblical and epic! #mindblown #nyedchat

jazzmeister2013 Feb 1 @ 8:37 PM EST

Greetings all! Greg- 2nd grade, MD. Checking in late, but happy to be in the conversation. Hope all are well. #nyedchat

JennLCI Feb 1 @ 8:37 PM EST

@TonySinanis Absolutely! There's such a delicate balance there, to be sure. #nyedchat

FredEnde Feb 1 @ 8:37 PM EST

@JennLCI @Myers_Berkowicz Yes. I see benefit of standardized measures for aid determination.Can assessments for learning do that? #NYEDChat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:37 PM EST

@Mrreiff Thanks for joining us, Larry. #NYEDChat

Myers_Berkowicz Feb 1 @ 8:37 PM EST

@FredEnde how can it not b standardized. Think big pic #NYEDChat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:38 PM EST

@mritzius @RossCoops31 Yup... that is why it got some quotation marks! Who decides what "should" be most important for kids? #NYedchat

Kpteach5 Feb 1 @ 8:38 PM EST

@dmgately @kemnitzer3 Absolutely! Need to experience the First Attempt In Learning! #nyedchat

kemnitzer3 Feb 1 @ 8:38 PM EST

A4: Data should be used to make kids life ready as we may not know what college and career ready looks like for a 5 year old. #nyedchat

Mrreiff Feb 1 @ 8:38 PM EST

@cvarsalona Happy to be here! #nyedchat

KS_EdMktg Feb 1 @ 8:38 PM EST

A4. #stuvoice & choice, current events, popular subjects Ss are passionate about. Or could become passionate about. Tied to stds. #nyedchat

dr_jcohen Feb 1 @ 8:38 PM EST

#NYEDChat individualized assessment like running records give real feedback useful for planning future instruction

JeremyDBond Feb 1 @ 8:38 PM EST

A3) Empower kids & their families with ways to measure their growth. Let them come up with their own way. #NYedchat https://t.co/h4nfLWUGQ1

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:24 PM EST

Q3 #NYEDChat How do we avoid putting the emphasis on testing and keep it on learning?

EdCampBROOKLYN Feb 1 @ 8:38 PM EST

@cvarsalona Yes Carol! Yes Carol! #nyedchat

ERobbPrincipal Feb 1 @ 8:38 PM EST

@TonySinanis @sjctex A4 #nyedchat Effective formative assessments should guide teaching and learning!

JennLCI Feb 1 @ 8:38 PM EST

@FredEnde Yes. Issue is scale - and money. Here's hoping NYS applies for an ESSA grant for portfolio assessment. @Myers_Berkowicz #nyedchat

liv2lrn Feb 1 @ 8:38 PM EST

A4: Data on areas of strength & weakness for Ss can inform future instruction when utilized properly... But it rarely is. #nyedchat

usabbs Feb 1 @ 8:39 PM EST

@TonySinanis A4 data that is easily collected and analyzed , such as data from online quizzes such as @quizizz or @StileEducation #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:39 PM EST

@JennLCI @TonySinanis Ugh on test prep. It's proven not to be effective. Why not make Ss test ready by daily interactive learning? #NYEDChat

jazzmeister2013 Feb 1 @ 8:39 PM EST

@cvarsalona Anecdotal notes are great data points to track learning and growth, both academically and socially. #nyedchat

conniehamilton Feb 1 @ 8:39 PM EST

A3: When planning for future teacher learning, school improvement data and T perception data can guide PD time. #nyedchat

leefink Feb 1 @ 8:39 PM EST

@KS_EdMktg @TonySinanis @ThePrincetonRev I'd hope these tests could be more relevant beyond college admissions & HS courses #nyedchat

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:40 PM EST

@liv2lrn @TonySinanis But Tony's end statement...if there's quality teaching, then why need test prep? #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:40 PM EST

@mritzius @RossCoops31 we will have to discuss in person next time we are together! #NYedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:40 PM EST

@jazzmeister2013 I agree w this Greg. I like kidwatching & annotating what I see but I always conferred w Ss about what I wrote. #NYEDChat

blancaedu Feb 1 @ 8:40 PM EST

@sjctex I understand...but to what cost? It's just another means to divide #nyedchat

golliharsclass Feb 1 @ 8:40 PM EST

#nyedchat A4: Constantly assessing not the answer. Ss need to lrn to be risk takers & not be afraid of failing. Lrn from mistakes not tests

FredEnde Feb 1 @ 8:40 PM EST

@Myers_Berkowicz I agree. I see merit of both standardized and assessments for; just wondering if standardized could look diff. #NYEDChat

conniehamilton Feb 1 @ 8:40 PM EST

A3: Avoid emphasis on testing by using data from the assessment to ensure learning. Don't focus on grades, focus on achievement. #NYEDchat

jazzmeister2013 Feb 1 @ 8:41 PM EST

@liv2lrn Authentic, relevant data collection allows Ss to track growth and set goals for advancement. #nyedchat

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:41 PM EST

Well hello there! (& agree) #nyedchat https://t.co/JCpcbHfNW0

RossCoops31 Feb 1 @ 8:26 PM EST

A3: Establish a culture of standards based learning. Focus is on the...learning, not accountability. #nyedchat #nyed

FredEnde Feb 1 @ 8:41 PM EST

@JennLCI @Myers_Berkowicz Would love that. Was great to see it in ESSA! How would you design a portfolio for standardized purpose? #NYEDChat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:41 PM EST

@gpescatore25 @liv2lrn We have basically eliminated test prep at #Cantiague & our kids still perform well because of our Ts! #NYedchat

JennLCI Feb 1 @ 8:41 PM EST

@cvarsalona The challenge is that actual real test prep is basically meta cognition and is helpful. #nyedchat @TonySinanis

dmgately Feb 1 @ 8:41 PM EST

@Kpteach5 @blancaedu I not sure who the tougher audience is...parents or kids! #nyedchat

CameronBerube Feb 1 @ 8:41 PM EST

@liv2lrn #nyedchat I have seen it used this way often. Use of data protocols in teams support this.

Kpteach5 Feb 1 @ 8:41 PM EST

@blancaedu @Joesanfelippofc 5th grade! They are not used to teachers conferring w/them. Takes time to build meta cognitive skills. #nyedchat

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:41 PM EST

@blancaedu ugh! #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:42 PM EST

@FredEnde @Myers_Berkowicz That's golden question, Fred. When will tests change 2 become worthy measures of Ss' growth over time? #NYEDChat

jazzmeister2013 Feb 1 @ 8:42 PM EST

@cvarsalona That 1-1 conferencing w/ Ss is powerful. Allows them to reflect and respond. Pursuit of growth. #nyedchat

Myers_Berkowicz Feb 1 @ 8:42 PM EST

#NYEDChat great convo. Gotta go AFK... TTYL

conniehamilton Feb 1 @ 8:42 PM EST

T literally told me my son would not succeed in college b/c he has missing assignments. 85% on all summatives. Did he learn? #nyedchat

sgrayPOB Feb 1 @ 8:42 PM EST

#NYEDChat hi everyone sue from LI. Sorry to be late- 2 sick kids have kept me busy! Happy to be here

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:42 PM EST

Let's not forget that student self-reflection is a critical part of assessment! Where do they see their learning? #NYedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:43 PM EST

WOW!! #NYedchat is on fire tonight! Get ready for Q5!!!

JennLCI Feb 1 @ 8:43 PM EST

@cvarsalona @TonySinanis it's possible to do learner-centered test prep but it requires willingness to do action research with Ss. #nyedchat

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:43 PM EST

@TonySinanis @mritzius @RossCoops31 What should be doesnt look the same across the board. As a P there r times I expect more/less #nyedchat

blancaedu Feb 1 @ 8:43 PM EST

@Kpteach5 @Joesanfelippofc Wonderful! My daugter would have loved to conference in 5th grade. Its why she <3 her ind technology T #nyedchat

VictoriaCurry77 Feb 1 @ 8:44 PM EST

@jazzmeister2013 Ts need data tracking tools to look for trends in their class to org teaching points #NYEDchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:44 PM EST

Q5 #NYEDChat How can we empower students, as lead learners, to have input in the ways they are assessed?

EdCampBROOKLYN Feb 1 @ 8:44 PM EST

Oh oh oh I can't stop re-tweeting! This chat is making my Monday night RIGHT! #nyedchat

CameronBerube Feb 1 @ 8:44 PM EST

@conniehamilton #nyedchat You are really hitting on purpose/meaning of grades. Work completion versus mastery of knowledge. Nice!

DrBillBrennan Feb 1 @ 8:44 PM EST

Can't wait to see 300 + #nyedchat edu's @ https://t.co/v66YUhc6LE @TonySinanis @kemnitzer3 @dmammolito @ClassLink @VictoriaCurry77 #edchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:44 PM EST

@JennLCI @TonySinanis But not way of packets or wkbks.There has 2 be T modeling & S feedback. Daily rich learning best way. #nyedchat

liv2lrn Feb 1 @ 8:44 PM EST

@gpescatore25 @TonySinanis our Ts aren't doing test-prep either, but State-Approved Assessment is still being used for APPR. #nyedchat

lisaodavis Feb 1 @ 8:44 PM EST

A5 Give students choice. Project? Paper? Discussion? Presentation? It's a start. #nyedchat

JeremyDBond Feb 1 @ 8:44 PM EST

@dmgately @Kpteach5 @blancaedu Parents&kids aren't responsible for this impression. They're not the ones who need to change first. #NYedchat

mritzius Feb 1 @ 8:44 PM EST

@gpescatore25 @TonySinanis @RossCoops31 I'm talking about the semantics. Standards and accountability are related, not just in edu #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:45 PM EST

Ok friends... last Q talks about empowering students for #NYedchat! Let's share some great ideas now! Hey @Joesanfelippofc where are you?

EdCampBROOKLYN Feb 1 @ 8:45 PM EST

@leefink This is so beautiful Lee. So eloquently true. #nyedchat

usabbs Feb 1 @ 8:45 PM EST

A5 Choice , simple answer #nyedchat

golliharsclass Feb 1 @ 8:45 PM EST

#nyedchat A5: engagement is key to understanding and learning. Is there a way to make assessments engaging?

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:45 PM EST

@liv2lrn @gpescatore25 yes Judy, that is a reality. The mandate is there but how it unfolds in our schools is up to us! #NYedchat

FredEnde Feb 1 @ 8:45 PM EST

@schools_AP @Myers_Berkowicz I like that. Any examples you know of? #NYEDChat

JohnFritzky Feb 1 @ 8:45 PM EST

John from NJ jumping in late from NJ but looks like I beat @Joesanfelippofc #nyedchat

dmgately Feb 1 @ 8:45 PM EST

@JeremyDBond @Kpteach5 @blancaedu I believe we are speaking to an audience here who shares similar thoughts... #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:46 PM EST

#NYEDChat A5 Ss as lead learners can become self-assessors through reflective protocols. Model & then let them choose reflective tool.

mritzius Feb 1 @ 8:46 PM EST

@gpescatore25 @TonySinanis @RossCoops31 so if something is driven by standards, accountability will be lurking, like it or not #nyedchat

schools_AP Feb 1 @ 8:46 PM EST

A5) by offering a menu of end-products to show what they know (essay, flyer, podcast, skit, rap, graphic novel, f-book page, etc) #NYedchat

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:46 PM EST

@dmgately @Kpteach5 @blancaedu Again...unless the gr doesnt matter for upper grades and college, its hard for Ss & Ps not to worry #nyedchat

TTMobile_us Feb 1 @ 8:46 PM EST

#nyedchat is now trending in USA, ranking 49

lisaodavis Feb 1 @ 8:46 PM EST

@JohnFritzky @Joesanfelippofc John Fritzky! How are you? #nyedchat

blancaedu Feb 1 @ 8:46 PM EST

@JeremyDBond @dmgately @Kpteach5 Agree that there are many of "us"/"them" who need a new perception - who to start with? How? #nyedchat

top20training Feb 1 @ 8:46 PM EST

@usabbs A5 multiple intelligence = multiple assessments #nyedchat

FredEnde Feb 1 @ 8:46 PM EST

@sjctex And more than curriculum. . .practices, skills, habits of mind. #NYEDChat

Mrreiff Feb 1 @ 8:46 PM EST

A4: Visit an Edcamp. #nyedchat

JohnFritzky Feb 1 @ 8:46 PM EST

@lisaodavis @Joesanfelippofc Lisa!!! Great, bed time is rough with the kiddos. #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:46 PM EST

@JennLCI @TonySinanis Getting intoarea I believe inbut still don't liketerm test prep-change that to be test ready when necessary. #NYEDChat

Joesanfelippofc Feb 1 @ 8:47 PM EST

@TonySinanis I'm here! Relax. I'm trying to get some work done but you keep asking me questions. It's ridiculous. #nyedchat

kemnitzer3 Feb 1 @ 8:47 PM EST

A5: What if we let them decide how to show their understanding? No guidelines. Tell Ss you have 4 mins. to show your learning. #nyedchat

FredEnde Feb 1 @ 8:47 PM EST

@JennLCI @Myers_Berkowicz Will have to look. I know RI has a culminating performance assessment system in place too. #NYEDChat

blancaedu Feb 1 @ 8:47 PM EST

@dmgately @JeremyDBond @Kpteach5 So we start in schools/we write letters/we blog. How are others reached? #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:47 PM EST

@JohnFritzky @lisaodavis @Joesanfelippofc Hi John, welcome to #NYEDChat

sjctex Feb 1 @ 8:47 PM EST

A5) Ss should be part of the collaboration. Regular conversations to discuss learning provide insight for Ts and Ss ownership. #NYEDChat

CameronBerube Feb 1 @ 8:47 PM EST

#nyedchat A5: Multiple ways to represent mastery of standard. S select from playlist aligned to standard to demonstrate.

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:47 PM EST

@Mrreiff #edcamp rocks. #NYEDChat

Kpteach5 Feb 1 @ 8:47 PM EST

@sjctex @dmgately @blancaedu I completely understand. I have to give numbers on my report cards, but stress the learning process. #nyedchat

ksampson4 Feb 1 @ 8:47 PM EST

@conniehamilton Love those comments. A good lesson in what not to say :) #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:47 PM EST

@mritzius @gpescatore25 @RossCoops31 It could be lurking but thats the issue; we've (politicians) linked standards to testing. #NYedchat

sgrayPOB Feb 1 @ 8:47 PM EST

#NYEDChat A)5 build choice into daily routines so classrooms become truly S centered. Allow s inquiry 2 b part of developing assessments

Mrreiff Feb 1 @ 8:48 PM EST

@kemnitzer3 Couldn’t agree more. Just one rule: No Dioramas. #nyedchat

JohnFritzky Feb 1 @ 8:48 PM EST

S choice should be there for Ss as they learn throughout the unit. Not sure how they are assessed should be at the end of the unit.#nyedchat

alexstubenbort Feb 1 @ 8:48 PM EST

A5:We've got to give them the proverbial keys.Give them a benchmark & means to learn it. Let them create their artifact of mastery #nyedchat

dmgately Feb 1 @ 8:48 PM EST

@gpescatore25 @Kpteach5 @blancaedu Valid point - revision & learning help work toward higher "grade"-back to culture of learning #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:48 PM EST

@Joesanfelippofc What "work" do you have to do? Moving papers from one side of your desk to the other? #NYedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:48 PM EST

@sjctex Great answer-more S involvement and collaborative discussions #NYEDChat A5

conniehamilton Feb 1 @ 8:49 PM EST

Probably all the time I've spent in #sblchat with @RoweRikW @drjolly and @garnet_hillman #nyedchat https://t.co/woI9j1c3vE

CameronBerube Feb 1 @ 8:44 PM EST

@conniehamilton #nyedchat You are really hitting on purpose/meaning of grades. Work completion versus mastery of knowledge. Nice!

JuliaGarrison20 Feb 1 @ 8:49 PM EST

contradictory western policies… https://t.co/HjcGGLAKAV #ChrisCollinsCover #460party #WWEFastLane #nyedchat #MizTV https://t.co/hlvG8K4STm

hoffmannsofial Feb 1 @ 8:49 PM EST

Torture chambers… https://t.co/sfweCop2Yb https://t.co/Vr109gYV5k #UNCvsLOU #IowaCaucus #Emblem3Now #PrisonIsBetterThan #nyedchat #MizTV

leefink Feb 1 @ 8:49 PM EST

@TonySinanis A3 Step one, do away w/ powerschool! use only narratives for progress updates/monitoring. #nyedchat

PracTutor Feb 1 @ 8:49 PM EST

A3 Focus on Growth. FAIL should lead to SAIL. The assessments need to reflect growth over time. #nyedchat https://t.co/hiHACvEAqX

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:24 PM EST

Q3 #NYEDChat How do we avoid putting the emphasis on testing and keep it on learning?

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:49 PM EST

@dmgately @JeremyDBond @Kpteach5 @blancaedu Yes those here seem 2 be like- minded on issue. How do we reach all Ts and Leaders?#NYEDChat

golliharsclass Feb 1 @ 8:49 PM EST

#nyedchat a5: lead learners Ss give me exactly what THEY need in the data I get from formative assessments. They're telling me their needs

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:49 PM EST

Let's empower Ss by letting them know how they will be assessed from the start of a unit of study; no surprises! #NYedchat

CameronBerube Feb 1 @ 8:49 PM EST

#nyedchat A5: And emphasize opportunities for s to s feedback...create culture of feedback

alexstubenbort Feb 1 @ 8:50 PM EST

If you have any energy after #NYEDChat, swing on over to #edtechafterdark at 10pm est! @danvkoch moderating! https://t.co/GslF6bJqUk

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:50 PM EST

Take Away for #NYEDChat is coming up. Can't wait to hear what everyone has to say.

Joesanfelippofc Feb 1 @ 8:50 PM EST

A5: How do we empower kids?ASK THEM! We tend to assume we know what they need. Not the case. Schools exist for students...ask them #nyedchat

JohnFritzky Feb 1 @ 8:50 PM EST

@TonySinanis very fair! When you take your drivers test everyone knows you have to get behind the wheel. #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:50 PM EST

@Joesanfelippofc #stuvoice needed! YES! #NYEDChat A5

lisaodavis Feb 1 @ 8:50 PM EST

@leefink @TonySinanis Couldn't agree more. Hate the pressure of grade portals! #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:50 PM EST

@mritzius @gpescatore25 @RossCoops31 not at all Mike- sorry. Don't agree with you. But hey, 140 characters can be tough sometimes! #NYedchat

blancaedu Feb 1 @ 8:51 PM EST

@gpescatore25 @dmgately @Kpteach5 I guess the day Ss have more choice bout college, grades will diminish in meaning #nyedchat

EdCampBROOKLYN Feb 1 @ 8:51 PM EST

@TonySinanis Engage Ss in rich conversation about this and INCLUDE their voices in decision making. #nyedchat

top20training Feb 1 @ 8:51 PM EST

@cvarsalona join the revolution! Throw standardized testing into the harbor with the Tea #nyedchat

ksampson4 Feb 1 @ 8:51 PM EST

A5: Learn w/ the Ss- ask for their input- metacognition is important so that they feel they have control over their progress #nyedchat

Joesanfelippofc Feb 1 @ 8:51 PM EST

@thomascmurray @TonySinanis You two are hysterical. I hate you both. #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:51 PM EST

@JohnFritzky @TonySinanis Yes, I believe in that approach, Tony. Empower Students! #NYEDChat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:51 PM EST

@leefink I am totally with you on that Lee! That is a huge step in the right direction! #NYedchat

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:51 PM EST

@JohnFritzky truth. If too long after lesson, harder to learn & catch up (esp w something like math that builds on prev lesson) #nyedchat

jazzmeister2013 Feb 1 @ 8:51 PM EST

@Joesanfelippofc Empowering Ss voice! When they feel respected, they thrive even more! #nyedchat

FredEnde Feb 1 @ 8:52 PM EST

Thanks, #NYEDChat, for letting me hang out with you tonight. Always learn from you! #gratitude

JohnFritzky Feb 1 @ 8:52 PM EST

@ksampson4 As a T, leaving time for this was a struggle of mine, but it is so important! #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:52 PM EST

@jazzmeister2013 @Joesanfelippofc We want our Ss to thrive in this complex world. #NYEDChat

Mrreiff Feb 1 @ 8:52 PM EST

@leefink @TonySinanis Since we opened Ss portal, they are more focused only on grades than ever. Every fluctuation causes stress #nyedchat

leefink Feb 1 @ 8:52 PM EST

@gpescatore25 @TonySinanis @JohnFritzky The Old school 3 Rs get a 4th R, Reflection #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:52 PM EST

@FredEnde Glad to have you here Fred. #NYEDChat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:52 PM EST

@mritzius Just my humble take on the exchange! But, regardless, thanks for joining #NYedchat tonight! You pushed us to think!

lisaodavis Feb 1 @ 8:52 PM EST

@Mrreiff @leefink @TonySinanis How could they not be? It's all about the grades when you have that portal open. #nyedchat

mritzius Feb 1 @ 8:52 PM EST

@TonySinanis @gpescatore25 @RossCoops31 why would design something with implicit accountability if you should disregard it? #nyedchat

top20training Feb 1 @ 8:53 PM EST

@cvarsalona Take away: Ss' learning is what matters. Period. Follow us @top20training #nyedchat

JeremyDBond Feb 1 @ 8:53 PM EST

@blancaedu Is this led district-level? Does school leadership support Ts who go beyond? That's who matters before anyone else, no? #NYedchat

Vroom6 Feb 1 @ 8:53 PM EST

A5: Balance is essential. Holding students accountable while offering various platforms of assessment. Set the bar. Rise to it. #nyedchat

dmgately Feb 1 @ 8:53 PM EST

@lisaodavis @Mrreiff @leefink @TonySinanis for something that is supposed to help communication, I find it does the opposite #nyedchat

JonWFD65 Feb 1 @ 8:53 PM EST

Never surprises me who shills for assessment An informative interaction at #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:53 PM EST

@TheJLV @gpescatore25 come on Jose! One takeaway to end it on #NYedchat! :)

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:53 PM EST

@Vroom6 Hey, Craig. Thanks for joining in. Balance is indeed essential. #NYEDChat

ksampson4 Feb 1 @ 8:53 PM EST

@JohnFritzky it is so tempting to want to move on, but I agree that the time is so worth it for the Ss #nyedchat

kemnitzer3 Feb 1 @ 8:53 PM EST

I have to sign off...FANTASTIC chat tonight on this very important topic!! Thanks @TonySinanis and the #nyedchat team. #nyedchat

kemnitzer3 Feb 1 @ 8:53 PM EST

I have to sign off...FANTASTIC chat tonight on this very important topic!! Thanks @TonySinanis and the #nyedchat team. #nyedchat

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:54 PM EST

#NYEDChat Take Away: What is your take away on the impact of testing on learning?

lisaodavis Feb 1 @ 8:54 PM EST

@dmgately @Mrreiff @leefink @TonySinanis It is a conversation ender - isn't it? #nyedchat

jazzmeister2013 Feb 1 @ 8:54 PM EST

@cvarsalona @Joesanfelippofc That is the truth! #nyedchat

golliharsclass Feb 1 @ 8:54 PM EST

#nyedchat A5: I take spelling tests from their daily writings. And direct instruction to their needs. How do you guys deal with #RtI?

JohnFritzky Feb 1 @ 8:54 PM EST

IMO there are lots of ways or paths to learning, but at the end of the journey all Ss should be able to do the same things. #nyedchat

ERobbPrincipal Feb 1 @ 8:54 PM EST

@conniehamilton A3 #nyedchat I agree 100% focus on learning- if we focus on grades and points we permit students to do the same

lisaodavis Feb 1 @ 8:54 PM EST

@tonysinanis - What's a jedi's favorite dessert? #nyedchat

leefink Feb 1 @ 8:54 PM EST

@Mrreiff @TonySinanis My 11th grade daughter reports the same. had powerschool since middle school, so years of conditioning now. #nyedchat

usabbs Feb 1 @ 8:54 PM EST

Tour guide on digital field trip @AUGTHAT #nyedchat. https://t.co/fmPrsC8tSW

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:54 PM EST

@ERobbPrincipal @conniehamilton Good to have you at #NYEDChat Evan.

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:55 PM EST

@lisaodavis @tonysinanis OMG... I dont know!! What?? #NYedchat

Mrreiff Feb 1 @ 8:55 PM EST

@dmgately @lisaodavis @leefink @TonySinanis Many Tchrs say, “now I don’t have to call home as often.” Thats a problem. #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:55 PM EST

#NYEDChat Take Away: If assessment becomes a daily reflective tool then information can be gathered in a positive way to inform instruction.

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:55 PM EST

@ERobbPrincipal @conniehamilton Connie did I miss you at #NYEDChat?

lisaodavis Feb 1 @ 8:55 PM EST

@TonySinanis @tonysinanis An "Obi Wan Cannoli" -- compliments of Nathan #nyedchat

dmgately Feb 1 @ 8:56 PM EST

@Mrreiff @lisaodavis @leefink @TonySinanis or call at all...ever!! #nyedchat

farmer20dagmar2 Feb 1 @ 8:56 PM EST

The pain of any human being… https://t.co/2ViQDC1ZPR #TheFostersChat #1045BdayShow #LHHNY #UNCvsLOU #nyedchat https://t.co/KBKCIxxQnq

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:56 PM EST

Takeaway... Assessments should be ONE part of the educational journey; not the last stop! And Ss should have a voice in them! #NYedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:56 PM EST

What a great night of conversation at #NYEDChat. Thanks all for your voices rocking Twitter.

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:56 PM EST

@mritzius @TonySinanis @RossCoops31 Why design something w/o including key voices when planning? #nyedchat

NNguyencarmenjj Feb 1 @ 8:56 PM EST

cultures as a form of silent violence and extreme harmfulness… #LHHNY #Jeopardy #MyMondayFantasyIn5Words #nyedchat https://t.co/YuPg2G44qy

blancaedu Feb 1 @ 8:56 PM EST

@dmgately @lisaodavis @TonySinanis Do you think if the info it provided was diff - not grades - that the feeling wud b diff? #nyedchat

VictoriaCurry77 Feb 1 @ 8:56 PM EST

#NYEDChat take away; we need to naturalize the process of assessment so it is simply part of the learning cycle.

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:56 PM EST

@lisaodavis that is AWESOME!! I love that!! GO NATHAN!!! #NYedchat

golliharsclass Feb 1 @ 8:57 PM EST

#nyedchat Take away is the paradigm shift toward a student guided assessment that is formative, yet flexible enough to yield usable data.

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:57 PM EST

@TonySinanis #stuvoice on the journey - YES #NYEDChat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:57 PM EST

Thank you to Tony Sinanis for leading #NYEDChat tonight.

sjctex Feb 1 @ 8:57 PM EST

Take away - Do my best to make sure that we do not spend more “time weighing the cows than feeding them”. #NYEDChat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:57 PM EST

@sjctex Fun comment but true. #NYEDChat

CameronBerube Feb 1 @ 8:57 PM EST

#nyedchat Take away: Student voice and input is the lever to the cycle of instruction and assessment

dmgately Feb 1 @ 8:57 PM EST

@blancaedu @lisaodavis @TonySinanis As a parent I would prefer feedback other than a number. #nyedchat

EdCampBROOKLYN Feb 1 @ 8:57 PM EST

Just arriving home. NYC teacher NJ resident. Pulled over to chat & was sooooo worth it! Thanks #nyedchat #illbeback And to all a good night.

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:58 PM EST

Thank you to our amazing #NYedchat co-moderators for making tonight happen! Cc: @cvarsalona @VictoriaL_Day @mssackstein @LisaMeade23

lisaodavis Feb 1 @ 8:58 PM EST

@dmgately @blancaedu @TonySinanis Agreed - it's like a report card. I always look at the comments first. #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:58 PM EST

@TonySinanis @VictoriaL_Day @mssackstein @LisaMeade23 Thanks Tony for leading the team tonight #NYEDChat

JohnFritzky Feb 1 @ 8:58 PM EST

Takeaway - Assessments that are real-world give value beyond just the grade, and create better humans. #nyedchat

gpescatore25 Feb 1 @ 8:58 PM EST

@mritzius @TonySinanis @RossCoops31 Have to address root of problem to resolve #nyedchat

blancaedu Feb 1 @ 8:58 PM EST

@JeremyDBond Leadership needs to be supportive, yes, but who has most power to change policy? Ps? Ss? the public? legislators? #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:59 PM EST

Join #NYEDChat on 2.15.16 at 8:00 pm EST when we will engage in Professional Learning with Rich Czyz co-founder of #4OCF tonight.

dmgately Feb 1 @ 8:59 PM EST

@lisaodavis @blancaedu @TonySinanis YES!!! We do too & that goes away in the secondary years #nyedchat

conniehamilton Feb 1 @ 8:59 PM EST

Hop on #TMchat Feb 2 to discuss how to RETHINK INTERVENTION at 8pm CST. #leadlap #admin2b #vachat #nyedchat https://t.co/s4qNtCe1J9

TonySinanis Feb 1 @ 8:59 PM EST

@cvarsalona @VictoriaL_Day @mssackstein @LisaMeade23 thank you ALL for the support & input! Tonight was an important chat! #NYedchat

leefink Feb 1 @ 8:59 PM EST

@dmgately @Mrreiff @lisaodavis @TonySinanis This is area online schools/virtual charters do well. Ts have skype sessions with Ps #nyedchat

Mrreiff Feb 1 @ 8:59 PM EST

@lisaodavis @dmgately @blancaedu @TonySinanis Unfortunately,some districts only allow the use of canned comments,not real feedback #nyedchat

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:59 PM EST

@JohnFritzky REal world assessments allow Ss to be exposed to practical applicable tasks. Love the comment. #NYEDChat

NydiaVargas9 Feb 1 @ 8:59 PM EST

A mother whose joy for her family… #Jeopardy #nyedchat #TheFostersChat #1045BdayShow #antiquesroadshow #Supergirl https://t.co/zvpOYEU51J

cvarsalona - Moderator Feb 1 @ 8:59 PM EST

@TonySinanis @VictoriaL_Day @mssackstein @LisaMeade23 Yes, tonight was the not-to-be-missed chat. #NYEDChat