#ILedchat Archive
#ILedchat is a great way for Illinois educators to share teaching strategies, educational resources, and more.
Monday October 17, 2016
10:00 PM EDT
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Welcome Everyone! is about to begin! Our community is welcoming, generous, and dedicated - all are welcome!
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Welcome Everyone! is about to begin! Our community is welcoming, generous, and dedicated - all are welcome!
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My tweets for the next hour will be focused to Tonight, Creating positive impactful relationships with "adversarial" stakeholders
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The team (, , , , , , ) is glad you’re here!
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Please introduce yourself, describe your role in EDU. What's your hidden talent that most people are unaware of?
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Welcome Paul. Any talents or abilities you would like to share?
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Chris, sped. teacher from DuPage County and aspiring administrator
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I am Meg Ormiston an author/co-author of over a dozen books, speaker. My hidden talent I am growing right now is Google Ad Words
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Hello Everyone! Glad to be here! Bob, T/C Most folks don't know I have dancing feet, ballroom, country, etc
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Margaret, 5th grade general ed teacher.
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And I have known you all these years, who knew? Love it! https://t.co/6OwBTD2lub
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Hello Everyone! Glad to be here! Bob, T/C Most folks don't know I have dancing feet, ballroom, country, etc
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Awesome Meg! Glad you could join us. You are a talented, caring writer!
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Jai Gipson from & ! Excited to be apart of tonight's chat!
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Welcome Margaret! Any talents you want to share with the group?
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Jackie Stone better late than never from Willowbrook teacher at Rich East HS in the south suburbs
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Welcome to the best PD ever! I taught 2, 3, 4, 6, mathk-8, tech k-8 https://t.co/qpopaISGPa
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Margaret, 5th grade general ed teacher.
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Larry Hyde, CoDirector of the Midwest Principals' Center. My talents are never hidden but shared!
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Welcome Jackie - glad you could join us tonght!
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hidden talent of being able to squat bench and deadlift
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I love your answer! Thank you for joining us tonight! You are always a key contributor!
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I just got back from the gym - I respect the powerlifting ladies!
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Please include to engage in our chat this evening. We’ll be posting an archive later tonight.
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We use the Q/A format & we will start with our first question momentarily. Be sure to use our favorite hashtag!
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We will follow the Q1, Q2, Q3 format with A1, A2, A3 in response! Get ready for our first question!
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Q1: Why are relationships significant in a school / district setting?
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Sorry I'm late... Alex Engineering Teacher tweeting from lovely Lake Zurich
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A1: in order to have the best learning environment you have to build a relationship - Ss learn better when they believe you care
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Thanks for joining us Alex. Q1 just popped! Good timing!
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A1 Relationships are at the core of the human experience. They are what drive us to do great things or keep us from greatness
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A1: everything is about relationships and keeping the focus on teaching and learning, not personal issues. https://t.co/Byd5SAaHNN
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Q1: Why are relationships significant in a school / district setting?
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Terrific start! People, especially children, are "pleasers" by nature.
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Schools are like large families. Relationships of all kinds affect one another. Some may even be a little dysfunctional at times.
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A1: Quality relationships help people stay engaged in a positive way
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A1. I'm currently co-teaching with the school reading specialist. It's all about a trusting relationship when teaching as a team.
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True, we would like all relationships to be great, but when they're not...
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Yes, and it does take work. The team is more powerful than the individual https://t.co/sDMBHjU1Ls
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A1. I'm currently co-teaching with the school reading specialist. It's all about a trusting relationship when teaching as a team.
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A1 Relationships are imprtnt because we can't build trust w/out having one. When ppl trust they feel safe to share & take risk.
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Excellent - we will focus on this trust aspect in just a few minutes!
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Q2: Who are adversarial stakeholders? How do they make us feel?
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A2 Almost daily, I field phone calls or email messages from frustrated Ps who feel they have been wronged.
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A2: Often the adversarial people just want to be heard We need to find someone to create the relationship and trust.
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A2 Admin who dont have trust in their Ts to do the best thing for Ss.
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A2.1 Sometimes people in the same role as us feel a need to compete.
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Why are the Ps frustrated? Is it about a student or their issues?
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Good point - are students ever adversarial?
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A2: unfortunately Ts can be adversarial as they want to hold on to what's always worked instead of looking for new opportunities
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I agree, Starts with “I’m a teacher, but that isn’t why I’m calling” https://t.co/AMZ2ITnx8Q
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A2.1 Sometimes people in the same role as us feel a need to compete.
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Hey all, Matt from McHenry checking in late to the party!
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A2: adversaries make the work of school like war instead of like a place of learning
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A2.1 I don't know about all of you, but my emotional capacity has a limit, I don't like to use it all up on adversaries.
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Good way of describing the frustration many of us feel at times.
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A2: you here admin & Ts or building admin & district admin complain in those models where decisions are made at the top w/o input
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Always worked, or gotten them by when measuring to an assessment they devised or focused solely on?
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Welcome Matt - glad you could join us!
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I see this so much in my PD work “My test scores are good, why change?” “Wait your class is deadly boring… https://t.co/HFiYJ7RSEB
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A2: unfortunately Ts can be adversarial as they want to hold on to what's always worked instead of looking for new opportunities
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The adversarial stakeholder is the one whose trust we have not earned & they make me feel like I need to do more to connect.
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A2-I find those that exhibit these behaviors do not have enough info about what we are doing....making efforts to bring all in
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A2 adversials take issue with the school or educators. We often get defensive and upset. We Need to listen to understand.
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we can't be afraid as Ts or Admin. To be able to try new things
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I like how you've sprinkled this issue with a "growth mindset" perspective!
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Agreed, but some dont want to connect. Some like solidarity for some reason
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Agreed Matthew we need to over communicate! https://t.co/cSGC5WubcQ
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A2-I find those that exhibit these behaviors do not have enough info about what we are doing....making efforts to bring all in
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it's certainly not a good use of time & energy, it's important to avoid power struggles
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I agree the power struggles take away from our core very important work! https://t.co/aLV7udeZJC
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it's certainly not a good use of time & energy, it's important to avoid power struggles
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Nice, caring exchanges happening. Apparently, no adversaries here tonight! : ) Q3 coming up momentarily!
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Q3: What strategies would you recommend for turning adversaries into allies?
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Violeta. EL teacher. Just lurking
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seek first to understand before trying to be understood....great point!
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Do you think it is power? Creating a powerless against change? https://t.co/Vg292UaAC1
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Agreed, but some dont want to connect. Some like solidarity for some reason
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Please jump in when you feel ready. We value your perspective!
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I don't just want to communicate, I want to validate feelings and embrace opinions!
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A3: Find out why they are adversarial, see if you can turn it your way
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What would be your approach to this?
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A3-we have two ears and one mouth....use them in a way that allows us to listen more and talk less....encourage discourse
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A3 Move from listening to action. Some how we have to show them we heard them even if we don't agree with them.
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Agree! Listening seems to be becoming a lost art form. As said earlier, sometimes people just want to be heard
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A3 The art of leadership is turning your adversary into an ally. Agreeing on a mutual goal is one strategy.
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the key is building true, authentic relationships, can't be done overnight. However, done right, you can turn them
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True - keep it focused on the issue. Don't let it get personal. Don't take on their monkeys!
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A3 It depends on who the adversary is, but likely show the value in the challenges you face. If they want data, examples, etc.
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Looks like a level-headed group tonight. We're looking to keep the peace and solve problems!
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Q4: What does "choosing to be positive" look like in your school / classroom?
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Leave the monkeys at the zoo. We need all our energy moving forward not backwards to yesterdays problems. https://t.co/b4otlNsmvI
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True - keep it focused on the issue. Don't let it get personal. Don't take on their monkeys!
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Words to live by, for sure!
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A3: finding and identifying a common goal and staying student centered
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We always have great minds participating in these discussions https://t.co/QKS1Os00o4
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Looks like a level-headed group tonight. We're looking to keep the peace and solve problems!
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A4 Sometimes simple things say so much; a smile, a warm greeting, getting to know each other - these things can build trust
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A4 It is accepting what works and being honest about what could be improved upon or discarded. To often we only see the good.
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I agree about the what can be improved on, that is critical! https://t.co/tiihh0xjkz
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A4 It is accepting what works and being honest about what could be improved upon or discarded. To often we only see the good.
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A4 How about helping out a stranger, random acts of senseless kindness! Would these be seen as positive?
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they are also all positive, positivity can be contagious
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A4-everyday I am living the dream...our elem building must be a place people want to come to work and learn....need positive ways
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Right on cue Chris - I agree!
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Eager to arrive, reluctant to leave - because you offer something so special & compelling!
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A4 A simple smile passing by can be a very powerful tool...
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A4 Authentic positive interactions are the norm, not just when reacting to a person or incident.
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Yep, how about learning everyone's name!
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Q5: How can we build trust in our classrooms / schools?
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beach park and we can take everyone! Best job that I have the privilege to do each day
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It catches some Ss & Ps off guard when you remember their first names!
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visiting classes on a regular basis will also help alleviate anxiety come evaluations
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A5 Relationships are where it starts. Understanding eachothers challenges and ideals.
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A5 Show them the way. Be okay w/failing forward & own your mistakes. Have a genuine interest in who your Ts are as ppl.
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A4: planning in time for fun in class. Laughing can make learning more meaningful
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A5-it all starts with relationships, kids and parents must know we are there each day to serve and help all succeed
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A5 Establishing trust can be challenging. I think being unselfish with our time is a good place to start. Get to know each other!
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Yep, make it conditional - something that can lead to processing / reflection / growth.
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great point, people are happier, willing to do more & embrace changes and initiates when relationships are positive
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Trust takes an investment of time/caring and can be lost in an instant. Trust is your most valuable asset, value it!
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A5 Don't all stakeholders feel more trusted when they are all invited to the "big kids table"? (Childhood Thanksgiving reference)
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Q6: What can we do to help our students deal positively with their adversaries?
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Love this, agreed the referenced worked with me! https://t.co/LjplJ7BGKU
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A5 Don't all stakeholders feel more trusted when they are all invited to the "big kids table"? (Childhood Thanksgiving reference)
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A6 Kids don't always hear us, but they're always watching us. Modeling positivity is vital!
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A6-given the current reality of everything occurring, we need adults to stand up and model for our S while encouraging
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A6 We have to coach them & safely guide them through the process of talking w/their adversary.
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A5 One must show/demonstrate that they care about others before they can begin to earn trust. #1 trait sought after by parents
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Unfortunate that so many of us can relate to this. Understanding underlying issues is key here.
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A6 Just did a T/S mediation last week. Both shared & both owned their part in the situation.
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So important! These are life skills sadly. There are adversaries down many paths in life! https://t.co/7yZlI5NzIf
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A6 We have to coach them & safely guide them through the process of talking w/their adversary.
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A6 Providing instruction on emotional intelligence will provide Ss the tools they need to deal with their own and others emotions
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Seems so logical - get adversaries together to communicate. Still OK to disagree, with civility.
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Agreed! My son learned so much from a super hard situation https://t.co/O0oYNcpCCu
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Unfortunate that so many of us can relate to this. Understanding underlying issues is key here.
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A6 Too bad some of our politicians are such poor role models in the adversarial arena. Had to be said.
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Q7: What types of support are appreciated when we are facing adversaries?
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MPC will host Marc Brackett, Yale Dir. of Emotional Intelligence on Feb. 28.Go to https://t.co/GhDVq8dbZQ for more info.
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You are going to get me started on a rant. Dislike reality for this very reason! Loudest is right mentality - Yuk!
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A7 I write down my concerns & practice having the conversation paying attention to my voice and tone.
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Looks like we're winding down for the evening - last prompt coming up (PoA)
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Hard to model civility when our national political landscape is at its lowest
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Q8: Starting tomorrow, what is your plan for building impactful relationships in your school?
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Using Twitter to tell the authentic story of a district. Snap those pictures and share great things! https://t.co/gr72Ddcybd
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Q8: Starting tomorrow, what is your plan for building impactful relationships in your school?
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A8 I will continue to develop my relationship w the staff. I will continue to create a safe place to disagree & try new things.
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You can treat Q8 as a slow chat question as you make your school climate & culture more positive this week!
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And yes, to tell our story! ! https://t.co/ZhWJrT0f9M
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Using Twitter to tell the authentic story of a district. Snap those pictures and share great things! https://t.co/gr72Ddcybd
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Q8: Starting tomorrow, what is your plan for building impactful relationships in your school?
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