#txhsfbchat Archive
A chat for high school football coaches. Topics discussed: coaching methods, program development, and impacting our athletes.
Wednesday February 17, 2016
9:00 PM EST
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Tonight we talk about Running the Zone. in efforts to improve the chat for all has upped the Qs to 7. Its time to up your game!
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Tonight we talk about Running the Zone. in efforts to improve the chat for all has upped the Qs to 7. Its time to up your game!
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Van Johnson Douglas Co HS/QB's
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Drew Akins, OC/QB Ooltewah HS
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Johnny Croyle - OC/QB - Minnetonka HS, Minnesota
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Making connections is a very important part of what we do. Take time to introduce yourself and follow other coaches
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Making connections is a very important part of what we do. Take time to introduce yourself and follow other coaches
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Cody Gardner Washington, MO
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Thomas MacPherson
Head Coach
Orange Park HS
Orange Park FL
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Eddie Young, HC/OC Lajeunesse HS, Windsor, ON
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I am Chris Fisher, OL at Ridge Point HS and the steward of
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I am Chris Fisher, OL at Ridge Point HS and the steward of
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Bobby Darnell, HC - Clements HS
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Joe Gaudio HC/OC St. Max Mustangs, Aurora, Ontario Canada
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Bo Culver Ad/Head Football coach Haleyville high Haleyville Alabama
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Eddie Chinea...asst coach at Lamar Consolidated HS...love talking football all year long https://t.co/rcIu6VIBhK
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Making connections is a very important part of what we do. Take time to introduce yourself and follow other coaches
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Chris Norton - HC, Marvell-Elaine (AR) High School
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Jarry Poth Defensive coach SomersetHS Somerset Texas
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Ben Osborne, OC/OL New Richmond High School, New Richmond, Ohio (just east of Cincinnati)
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Tony Shiffman. Offensive line coach. Rossview High. Clarksville, TN. Zone game fanatic
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Chad Graves, AD/HC Natalia ISD
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Oline coach A&M consolidated, college station Texas
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Our format is a Q1,Q2...A1,A2 session. Please include in all your responses and RT Qs, great responses, & interact with others!
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Our format is a Q1,Q2...A1,A2 session. Please include in all your responses and RT Qs, great responses, & interact with others!
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This guy also runs a pretty great chat called with https://t.co/gyx0TKeIDU
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Tony Shiffman. Offensive line coach. Rossview High. Clarksville, TN. Zone game fanatic
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This guy also runs a pretty great chat called with https://t.co/RsAguQpmCa
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Tony Shiffman. Offensive line coach. Rossview High. Clarksville, TN. Zone game fanatic
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Rashawn Harvey
OC/QB's
Kearney Catholic HS, Kearney, NE
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Austin Crisler, QBs, East Central University
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John Mitchell OL coach Midwest City HS Midwest City OK. To quote JJ from Good Times "This is dy-no-mite!!!"
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much obliged coach. We owe it all to you and this amazing
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Jason Bachtel
Scurry-Rosser
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Let's get this going! Q1 is on the way
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Let's get this going! Q1 is on the way
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Billy Pluim Weber High School, UT OL coach/ ST coordinator
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Jack Dingus, OL Coach, Crooked Oak HS, Oklahoma City, OK
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Nick Stromeyer. Former AC at Allen Academy. Aspiring college football coach after I graduate from A&M in May
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Marte Amrine dripping springs HS
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Coach Palladino. HC/OC. Case high school in Swansea, MA.
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Q1: What are your reasons for using or not using a zone running scheme?
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Q1: What are your reasons for using or not using a zone running scheme?
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Ryan Higgins. Linebackers and assistant O line at Carter Riverside in Fort Worth.
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Ryan Tatum, WR coach at Foster High School, Richmond, TX
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Troy Hoff - HC/OL Eastside HS (GA)
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Scott Pratt. Head football coach at Hartshorne, Ok.
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A1: I love zone and feel that it can catch all looks. Also allows for different wrinkles.
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Brad Clark DL Coach Bixby HS Bixby, OK
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A1)multiple variations within the scheme with the ability to change who we read and play option football.
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Matt Burleson HC Telfair Co Ga
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Colbry Lathan
Assistant Football Coach
Okolona High School
Okolona, MS
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A1: Run it because it is easier to pick up stunts & Firezone blitzes that are popular now.
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A1: I'm a firm believer that a smaller, less physical OL can run zone and be effective by getting in the way of the defender.
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One word: simple.
Get a hat on a hat and pound your feet. Get the surge forward
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A1: Simplicity of it. Plus my old OL guy was a genius!
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A1: fits our personnel & numerous scheme options with inside & mid zone
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A1: For the simplicity of the blocking scheme and the multiplicity of options the backfield has to make a big play off it
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A1: I love all the variations you can have with it and the PAP that can come off the same look from the line
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A1: For the simplicity of the blocking scheme and the multiplicity of options the backfield has to make a big play off it
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A1: Zone running has the ability to stretch defenders from sideline to sideline, multiple answers and big plays built in
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A1: It's a sound scheme with an answer for just about everything, puts back in a very creative situation as well.
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A1: Running IZ/OZ is the cure for when you don't have the prototypical lineman. Zone allows 4 U 2 use smaller guys who can move
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A1: We stay away from zone. We just feel like gap schemes give us better angles & doesn't lock us into one on one blocks
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A1: 1st day install play. Simplicity and ease to teach and run effective.
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My kids have always been more physical running gap schemes. I don't know why, they just hesitated when we tried to run the zn
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A1: simplicity and ability to play different looks.
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A1: Started yrs ago do to small OL & promoted it's mainly 2 on 2 blocking to our OL kids https://t.co/nUkj4vDJl4
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Q1: What are your reasons for using or not using a zone running scheme?
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A1: Love that you can zone anything D gives you plus gives ability to read whoever you need to.
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A1 I enjoy the zone running scheme. It can simplify the offensive line blocking responsibilities plus open up the PA pass
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Everything we do revolves around the concept (protections, combo calls, etc)
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A1. I like that you can give multiple looks and multiple reads and it be one main scheme for your kids
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A1: The versatility with the read game, as well as the misdirection you can do with the sniffer. https://t.co/5rKCRJjSjl
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A1: for us the zone scheme allows us to simplify things for our kids which creates a speedier pace at which to play
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A1: When you don't have a strong OL it is an easy scheme to teach. Not complex and it helps with KISS
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A1) Flexibility within the line group & fits our runners.
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A1 Easy to teach...covered, uncovered, tracks. These rules can apply to all fronts!
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A1- We are looking at running 's zone schemes built on double teams
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A1 cont: Limits ability for defenders to play downhill and forces gap discipline. very effective run game with a smaller OL.
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A1: Gives the OL the ability to play fast, not overthink and we can run it against multiple fronts.
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A1. Run zone because it creates double teams and let's our RB be a RB. Also easy to teach-covered/ uncovered most basic way
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A1: Profitable. At small school level, we've had success w/ undersized OL running it - don't have to maul guys.
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A1: like the cutback opportunities provided to the ball carrier https://t.co/L02atW9O9X
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A1: For the simplicity of the blocking scheme and the multiplicity of options the backfield has to make a big play off it
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A1: Football is a numbers game, number the box read one guy, get numbers and movement. Easier rules equals faster play as well
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A1: Don't have to depend on opening huge holes. RB can find the seam.
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Great start! Q2 in a minute
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A1: don't run it bc I have 2 way players. Gotta get great at something, for us that's gap schemes
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A1: Plus you can run zone with any personnel. 10, 21, 12. It doesn't matter.
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Great start! Q2 in a minute
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A1: we do use some zone principles built into our gap scheme with our back such as having our back press the A gap
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A1: used to run it due to inability to physically displace DL. Attempted to use their leverage to our advantage.
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A1 we can block any box with our zone blocking schemes without issue. Adding RPO's make it even more versatile
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when you say cov/uncov, are you talking receivers or OL?
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Q2: When teaching the OL steps, do you teach a lateral step or a drop step and why?
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Q2: When teaching the OL steps, do you teach a lateral step or a drop step and why?
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Coach Scruggs-OC/OL-Alabama
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Coach Koenig, WR, Montgomery Blair HS, Silver Spring, MD
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Cody Case, DL Coach, East Hall High School, Gainesville, GA. Late to the party.
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Q1 a1 can be used against any front with very minor changes. Multiple things off of the base concept
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A1 Besides the ease for the o-line, it creates simple reads for the RB coming down hill
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A1: We like the fact of teaching 1 concept and we know if we can master this concept you have a chance against any front!
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This is a great place to learn for the future coaching job! Glad you could join tonight 🏈
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For all the coaches, thanks for helping me pass the time while I battle the ex-lineman's arch enemy https://t.co/r7XOhATncT
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A2, I teach both. All depends on the alignment of the DL.
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A2: never drop step. Don't want to lose ground to gain ground. Everything upfield and attacking the defense. Gotta get VERTICAL
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A1: Sound rules that make it easy on the OL, and very easy to window dress.
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Lateral play side with a slight bucket backside. Want to be physical play side and get off the ball.
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A2 I'm not a fan of drop stepping. You take a step backwards just to try and gain ground. I like attacking the defensive line
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A1: Learned the value of it when I coached at a HS where were few especially the bigs & we couldn't BOB cuz weak up front.
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Love reading all the offensive guys talk about RPO's lol!
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A2: I strongly believe you must teach both to have any success. Got to account for different alignments in all situations
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Buddy Taylor retired football coach living in Wichita Ks
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A2: More lateral and up field for us. I really don't like the drop step.
https://t.co/0PEvbNxj6B
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Q2: When teaching the OL steps, do you teach a lateral step or a drop step and why?
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A2: taught a lateral step forever, & a bucket as an adjustment...the more I read Paul Alexander, the more I like the bucket
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A2: When teaching zone steps, our cues are Lead (lead step) Lock (on 1st level threat) & Climb (to next level if no threat)
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A2: taught a lateral step forever, & a bucket as an adjustment...the more I read Paul Alexander, the more I like the bucket
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A2: Lateral step IMO. I don't think losing ground helps when the goal is to get engaged now and work to 2nd level.
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A2:i think it depends on OL footwork. bigger guys may not b able 2recover from a drop step lateral may be quicker to pnt of attk
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its like defensive guys talking zone blitz, get a bar napkin and draw 1,000 of them.
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A2: to me you teach them to attack, On D I wanna set a new LOS, you Dropstep We can do that easier
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A2: depends on IZ/OZ & where defender is - or uncovered. Bucket for uncov on OZ
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A2: Big CP on IZ is making sure everybody is square (OL, TE's, Backs).
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A2:I have taught both but I prefer lateral steps. We blew people off the ball better on dbls it seemed like
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A2 depth of first step is completely dependent on the width of the defender. The wider the defender the deeper the 1st step
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A2: Not a huge fan of drop stepping. But it does serve a purpose. So I still teach it. For wider alignments etc.
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A2 I actually take an angle step with toe up the field, a 6x6 step. I want to attack defenders, don't want to lose ground
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A2. Lateral step. We really focus on getting vertical push up field on the zone
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Needs more defensive talk.
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Q2: Gotta teach a bucket step when you get a guy lined up in a gap or on backside shade of next OL over.
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just wait a couple more Qs
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Learning a lot tonight! Q3 is coming your way
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Learning a lot tonight! Q3 is coming your way
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Hard to give it justice in 140 characters or less.
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CP to RB's on IZ is press the heels of the OL and feed the LB's to the OL. https://t.co/eRi1VhwJyZ
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square shoulders and vertical movement is key for sure. Patient running back helps too
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outside bucket, inside 6 inch lateral. If covered use timing step wouldn't call it drop.
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Q3: What are the rules for your running back to read the blocking in front of him?
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A2: It depends on the front R if U R running IZ R OZ. 6" Lat step 4 IZ & bucket step 4 OZ.
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Q3: What are the rules for your running back to read the blocking in front of him?
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I find zone is great for those with undersize lineman allows them to use there speed and leverage to create running lanes.
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Sometimes you give ground to gain leverage. If I take a flat step to a wide technique I give up penetration.
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Q2 cont: If U can't get head across, you are going to get seamed by DL. Bucket step is only way to do that vs wide DL alignment
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A2: Steps are based off DL alignment - we want to get lateral or gain ground depending on alignment, not lose ground w/ dropstep
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A3: be patient. Bend, bang or bounce. That's it.
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A3: We run from a pistol set. In an odd front, reads the nose and go opposite. In even, read the near DL and cut attack up hill
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A3: And press that line. You get 1 cut. DO NOT DANCE!
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I see a lot of comments regarding zone for smaller, athletic linemen. Why do you think zone is easier for them?
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A3 very clear reads. Keying first frontside combo on ISZ, and PST on OSZ. Backs shoulders MUST be parallel with shoulders of OL!
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A3 press the A gap defender double on inside zone. Red leverage of the DE on outside zone.
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A2: Flat/vertical based on the DL alignment. For zone combos we use shuffle footwork to maintain square shoulders.
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A3 patience is a virtue. Once they see the lineman create it they need to tuck the ball and go. No dancing in the backfield.
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A3: Follow the center's butt. If he turns the Nose left, go right side A gap and vice-versa.
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Wondering the same thing...please explain! https://t.co/1eyNVNtRbS
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I see a lot of comments regarding zone for smaller, athletic linemen. Why do you think zone is easier for them?
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Wondering the same thing...please explain! https://t.co/Ek54TOJ8ye
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I see a lot of comments regarding zone for smaller, athletic linemen. Why do you think zone is easier for them?
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A2. (Contd) On OZ/ Stretch I feel like you need to bucket to have the space or angle to be able to be able to get outside
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A3: On OZ read DE to next DL inside (Bang, Bend, Bounce) On IZ read 1st down DL PS of the center to next DL BS.
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)first down lineman play side to adjacent down lineman after initial read. VS odd game plan nose or 4I
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that's how I have been taught as well...
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A1 Cont'd: Love the two back stuff as well...especially with fast motion...work the full field.
https://t.co/dAoXlCazbw
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Attack the heels of the linemen, then either hit it or make your cut.
https://t.co/HeyoP7ELz9
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Q3: What are the rules for your running back to read the blocking in front of him?
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A3: Down hill and find the crease. Make a decision and go.
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A3: Inside zone - read first covered lineman past C on PS....play with eyes from there.
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I had the same Q...I typically think angles and pulling with smaller, quicker OL
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Looking for someone willing to share 3-4 Indy specific drill tape (DL, OLBs, ILB, DB). Ideally top 5 EDDs
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A3: stretch-read force defender, outside zone-EMOL, inside zone-1st DL play side past center
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A3) Press gap, were are responsible for 2nd level, IF you bounce it, you must get 5 yds, or you will come out of the game.
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A2 The technique we teach depends on a DL touching your backside.
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A3: first DL to Backer read face mask if he shows cut find LB set up block Barrel Drill until we execute all cuts correctly.
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A3: Make one cut live with it, I can't block them long enough to think your Barry Sanders with the ball.
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A3: our basic language is "press it, hug it, jump cut or hit it" https://t.co/v2D1lS2Ydl
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Q3: What are the rules for your running back to read the blocking in front of him?
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A3. Run to the nose of the near defender. 1 cut, stay lateral to the hashes and score.
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If you run it right, zone should never be a negative play!
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IMO it works both ways. Smaller better at combo blocks leverage, bigger they are easier it is for back to hide
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A3: mid or Tackle zone- 1) Tackles reach block 2) next DL if cut up (Bang or Bend)
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Drives me freaking go bat crap crazy. Hit the hole. Quit your jukein and get us 2 yds more
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A2: A lateral step for inside zone drop step for outside zone
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A3: Outside Zone - read pst block...with the 3 Bs.
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Colin Hornby, OC at in Winnipeg, MB (Canada)
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A3. Press to butt of the center and then either bang (play side A gap) or bend it (backside A gap) and worst case, bounce it out
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A3) cont' And by 5 yards, it better look like 7. 3 yds thru the A gap is better than same run outside.
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A3: Look at the planned hole and hit it if open, bend it back if filled, or bounce it if both are filled
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A3: Look at the planned hole and hit it if open, bend it back if filled, or bounce it if both are filled
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I laugh when they juke and get rocked. Shouldn't have done it.
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Keep up the good work! Q4 is on the way
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Keep up the good work! Q4 is on the way
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A1: because of the flexibility it provides the oline in who their man is, and the ability to disadvantage the D in numbers
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Q4: When defending a zone scheme, what do you stress to your DL?
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Q4: When defending a zone scheme, what do you stress to your DL?
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A3: push Tackles block & get vertical if no reach- right steps & read, then be an athlete
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https://t.co/ozcHNPt7rI
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A3: read hat of first down lineman PS on IZ. Hat gets reached bang outside of it hat stays outside bend back underneath it
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A4: Do not get too far up field. You cannot create seams! If you cannot split the double, make a pile.
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A3: OZ EMOL to Force off the PST reach block
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A4 I'm not a defensive guy so I'm going to have to sit this question out and observe haha
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A2 use a lateral step due to creating contact quicker with defender and general aggressive team philosophy
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A4: Penetration. That's what she said
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A4: Keep eyes on back and do not shed block too early. Wait for them to dedicate to a gap then shed
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I coach two reads then it's yours. Find lead line men's butt...get north... Now go score.
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A4: Gaps move and expand! You got to move with them.
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A4: Penetration kills all inside and outside zone. Get vertical pressure yesterday!
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A4)flat wall on the list with shoulders square. Get hands on and bar stool the double. Do not let guys climb and define LBS fit
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A4: have to teach fits, proper fits, & don't let the O win in your hole is key, Have to also decide who we want carrying too
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A4: get extension and maintain outside leverage, trust help from linebacker level is coming
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A4: Hat and hips in the hole; get to level 1 (heel depth) try to stay square with separation. Allow those LBers to make plays!
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A4: maintain your gap. Control your o-line key. Be patient. Don't look for the ball, when it comes to you, make the tackle.
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A3 depending on ISZ/OSZ read general flow of defense using the typical bend/bang/bust strategy
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moving gap understanding is big time in defending the Zone
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A4: DLine-wise, fight into pressure, the O-Linemen will take you to the ball. Also, our motto: PENETRATION KILLS.
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A4: Penny Penny Penny and more Penny! Got to create problems of combo make them man block us at POA
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: Coach sumo Robinson Douglas co high school D-Line
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A4: It all starts with getting hands-on, then controlling gap responsibility. DO NOT try to get skinny & go up field
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A3: press the LOS read 1st DL past center...i've also seen guys read A gap defender
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A4: Shoulders stay square, hands on double team. Don't let oline get to 2nd level.
https://t.co/Tb5r7NlvSk
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Q4: When defending a zone scheme, what do you stress to your DL?
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A4) play our normal keys and movement rules, looking to cross face, gap exchange with LB,
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Adrian Pedroza. WR coach at Covina High. Here to learn
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A4-butt press, get hat in gap! Then shed and tackle.
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You must work everyday with your OL picking up stunts. Big coaching point is not chasing LB's. Secure down guy before you climb
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A3: Rules we use are bend, and bounce. Always keep your eye on the back door cut for runningback.
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I'm not a fan of penetration unless it happens after block rec. Bad experiences with kids upfield on every block.
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A3: coach montgomery at Tulsa talks about pressing los getting the BSILB to commit for the cutback
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A1: If run well, and coached thoroughly , those are the only 2 plays you need
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A4: Setting the edge. Maintain your gap responsibility
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1st level is the main course, 2nd level is dessert! (I stole that from someone last week) https://t.co/FPRVZ1nhLE
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You must work everyday with your OL picking up stunts. Big coaching point is not chasing LB's. Secure down guy before you climb
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1st level is the main course, 2nd level is dessert! (I stole that from someone last week) https://t.co/CImg4YCs8W
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You must work everyday with your OL picking up stunts. Big coaching point is not chasing LB's. Secure down guy before you climb
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Y'all are doing great! Q5 in a minute
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Y'all are doing great! Q5 in a minute
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A2: Teach lateral step for inside zone and bucket for Outside zone.
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A1: Zone gives better answers to movement defenses than gap schemes do
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A4: Penetration & don't get reached by the adjacent Olineman!!!! Penetration kills the zone every time. Get off the ball!!!!
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A3: Keep it simple- Bang, Bounce, Bend are our cues
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We can rebound if your late 2nd level, we can't if your too early.
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Q5: How do you teach your D to confuse the QB on the give/pull read?
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Q5: How do you teach your D to confuse the QB on the give/pull read?
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that's extremely debatable at every level of football. Depends on "your" guys philosophy.
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https://t.co/UBqSofmeQF
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To Zn: Press & hold gap - create wall @ LOS. Away Frm Zn: Squeeze down blocks & pursue down LOS, take away cutback
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https://t.co/HB9K1Lnvzd
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To Zn: Press & hold gap - create wall @ LOS. Away Frm Zn: Squeeze down blocks & pursue down LOS, take away cutback
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A2: Neither, crotch step. Want to get upfield movement. Lateral and drop takes away aggressive mentality you want
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A1: I love the ability to have my smaller dudes up front DBL the first level and over take and climb to 2nd level.
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A4: Can't be a good front if your 5 is getting hooked.
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A4: make sure they do not penetrate and wait for the back to come to them, if it's a read scheme then hit the QB on every play
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A2: You can still be a zone team, yet still be dominant up front.
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A3: chase the heels of the center, we want the cutback created by the DE read. If it's not there press and feel
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Scott Chouinard HC Copley Oh, A3 bang or bend no more bounce. If we are running zone RB doesn't need coached past 1st few steps
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A5: Ends that do a really good job of shuffling down the line and being able to redirect give us fits. Especially w/lb exchange
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A1: You can use so much misdirection and RPOS the zone scheme has a lot of versatility.
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https://t.co/uZIkh4w6lS
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stay flat,
Keep leverage at all times. When the OL reaches cross his face, when the OL attempt to climb grab cloth
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https://t.co/vSPFXlpv5F
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stay flat,
Keep leverage at all times. When the OL reaches cross his face, when the OL attempt to climb grab cloth
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A5: we like to do it by changing up our QB player. Make him guess/question his thought process
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A5. I feel like a slow playing DE always messes up the read. Shows the QB a give read but then can make the tackle
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A2: now if assignment is a loose technique , then yes you would have to lateral but the back knee needs to drive through hip
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A5: Slow play YOUR assignment; do not create lanes. Use your vision keys to understand options of QB - see chest vs see back.
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I'm getting a Sack Coach! I gotta eat!
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A5)old fashioned Q stunt with D end, turn shoulders to show give then pop outsourcing mesh. Been going on for 40 years#
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A5) Stay square, squeeze inside gap, stay flat to LOS, don't squeeze past the ball.
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A5-we gap exchange with olb/ilb/d line. Give the trigger man a lot to think about. It's simple for us. Not for him.
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A5: We don't. We work responsibility. DLine has inside threat. LB has outside, Safety has pitch.
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A5: Simple rules for all fronts, gap exchanges, and blitzes. Terminology matters: dive player, QB and pitch man.
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A3: IZ= FS A to BS A. Gaps are moving OL is getting movement. Read 1st down DL
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A5: hit the QB on every play and take him as a threat away as a possibility, dictating that their RB will be who gets the ball
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Pop after mesh, typing half asleep tonight
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You should try to combo as must as possible. I only run tracks if Dline has a lot of movement. Two hats are better than one.
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Gap schemes advantage is pulling and getting bodies to the p.o.a. Seems athleticism would be better served.
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A3: OZ= Bang, Bend, Bounce. 2nd down DL is read. Bang FS B, Bend to FS C, Bounce to BS A.
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Make sure you include the hashtag with your tweets to be included in the chat and the archive
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Alright, there's still 2 more Qs! Q6 up next
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Alright, there's still 2 more Qs! Q6 up next
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Q5: Gap exchange blitzes between LB and DE. Makes it tough when you keep mixing that vs Zone Read
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A5: Against teams that are truly reading it, we change our C gap defender on a play by play basis.
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A4: Get vertical for interior DL, get upfield, but don't get reached. Hat in your gap, but punch OL off his track
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Q6: What are your complementary plays off of your zone scheme?
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Q6: What are your complementary plays off of your zone scheme?
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A5 when teams mess with the read we change the read. Read em all. BSE, BST, PST, PSE
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A5: change the surface & tempo of the QBs reads. Use stunts & blitzes, mesh charges & exchange opt assignments to confuse him
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A5: Again goes back to not getting up field, end should squeeze down LOS. Can defend QB on the pull & reduce cutback.
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RPO's..Quick Game and LOTS of screens https://t.co/rMgXF2Hg3v
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Q6: What are your complementary plays off of your zone scheme?
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A6: We run what I call Zone Fan, where the H/T flip responsibility. T locks on normal read and the H attacks LB
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A5: we teach responsibilities, DL on dive, Squeeze/scrape for ILB on zone away
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A5: We want QB to give every time. Our run fits ALWAYS allow us an extra hitter
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A6)kick, bluff, wham, RPO, boots
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A6: like the QB wrap play we got from works like a charm when the lbs all flow with zone. Works like QB dart
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A6: We have messed with Read, where we will include a pitch man for the pull. Also like to naked boot off zone action
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A5. Block out with BST on EMLS (rifle block) to keep him honest, Read 3 tech.
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A5: now if we want to play with him, well stunt DE in, and he becomes chase player while OLB becomes the QB player.
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A5: I would tell DE QB is UR mom she won't lie & RB is UR girlfriend & she lies all the time. Guess what happened next. QB out!
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A5: Kind of depends on who is the bigger threat RB/QB? Force the O to give it to the weaker athlete of the two.
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A6 use the zone to try and draw the defense in then hit them with a play action rollout pass if you have an athletic enough QB
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A6: Quick slant. After a few runs, the LB will rush forward, leaves the middle open.
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A6: Split Zone, Wham, Wrap. All RPO's. Split Action Naked. We also run Counter H that goes nicely with Split Zone.
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A6: Naked's, PA, RPOs, also will change read to BS LB instead of BS DE, by blocking BS DE
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Boot, option off of the zone read either with a 2nd back or slot WR and RPOs
https://t.co/tDpfGTTmiZ
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Q6: What are your complementary plays off of your zone scheme?
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A3 Alex Gibbs says 1 cut and live with it. No hesitation. Watched a lot of clinics. He rips Davis ass in film sessions
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A6: Its packaged w/ us - we're always looking for numbers on perimeter for screen. We add wrinkles to zone out of Blue (2 back).
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A6 if you read the inside why do you need another play off of it? If only thing I can see is to throw the fast screen.
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it is, but also keeps it KISS.
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A6 we run speed option, counter, power as well as change the reads with a tag in zone game. We can read BSE, BST, PST,
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A6: RPOs, naked boot, slide protection to some degree, if the OL comes off right
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A6: RPOs, naked boot, slide protection to some degree, if the OL comes off right
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A6. We lock it where BST is on DE and read the LB or safety, we can also fold any two linemen to attack the gap we want
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A6: I also like what calls fire plays or wrong way plays off of zone
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what if you got an OL working to LB and DL stunts in his face. Or DL slants away, naturally OL is gonna chase him
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A6: going to be experimenting this year with RPOs, we use screens and jet motion to create lateral movement and confusion
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agreed with keep it simple but I see a lot of college guys scoring 60 a game with more than just zone.
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Great job! The last Q is here!
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Great job! The last Q is here!
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A6: RPOs, screens, bluff, quick.
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they also have 3x the amount of install time , meetings, and smarter players
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A6: We also run a 1-back power look where we block zone front side and block C back and fold guard. Still read it.
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Q7: We usually say when all else fails, run zone...when your zone runs fail, what is your answer?
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Q7: We usually say when all else fails, run zone...when your zone runs fail, what is your answer?
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A6. (Contd) Also RPO's and Play Action
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A7: I guess you have to know why it's not working.... Is it because the box is packed? Out manned?
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A7-as a D we want to take away what you do best. I can't wait to read these answers.
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A7: Gap schemes...power, GT, lead, and more lead
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A7: better hope our passing game is working. Zone isn't a play or series, it's an entire offensive philosophy .
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A7. Sometimes you gotta punt....😞
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A7: power read out of every formation and motion
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Power or Trap mix with a Quick game.
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A7)power read or inverted veer, take advantage of good defenses by triggering their response.
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let's say that the OL is struggling with the stunts and DL movement
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A7: If you can't run zone and that's your go-to, then you better be able to toss it around.
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gap schemes typically have "man" rules. Ex.... Gap, On, Down. Focuses on a man rather than combo concepts
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Lets run our quick game and intermediate passing game to get Def thinking...eventually will start to work ZR back in...
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A7: Be a better coach and develop your players.
If a team can stop my zone, they can stop my gap runs.
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A7: QB counter and speed option
https://t.co/jYCQFD8ugQ
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Q7: We usually say when all else fails, run zone...when your zone runs fail, what is your answer?
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Better be able to throw the ball. Quick screens, quick game, Jet
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A6: Boot, Wham, RPO, Read (DT), PA, Guard Kick, IZ w/ Jet Give opposite of IZ https://t.co/U35qKkOZri
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Q6: What are your complementary plays off of your zone scheme?
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A7: WR quick screen. Widen the defense, then go long.
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A7 in all honesty I'd like to switch to power in that case. Have your bigs outwork theirs and move the ball down the field
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you know as well as I there are some college defenses that aren't very fundamentally sound either
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If the zone game isn't working, wouldn't skip screens and other types of screens be the best thing? Work with what they give u.
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A7: screens and quick game to tire out the defense, going back to the run game when they've been weakened
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Florida rules stink, can't cut perimeter. Let's defenses play apex players extra tight to box then beat up slot receivers
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A7 GOB plays, designed QBruns, RPO or PA https://t.co/3vU7ChD8Lg
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Q7: We usually say when all else fails, run zone...when your zone runs fail, what is your answer?
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a7: the question you have 2 ask is why is your zone failing. You need adjustments or a different scheme 2 fix specific problems
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A7 power read or trap and when that fails sprint out because if you can't run zone you probably can't block drop back
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buck sweep is undervalued also.2security guards are btr than1.When zone runs don't work go2wing t runs(power, trap, belly etc.)
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A7: We keep running ISZ no matter what. It's what we do. Might get in empty and run QGame then back to ISZ
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QB Counter is one of if not the best plays in football! https://t.co/Et9CIKQEuj
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A7: QB counter and speed option
https://t.co/jYCQFD8ugQ
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Q7: We usually say when all else fails, run zone...when your zone runs fail, what is your answer?
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A7: We'll put the ball in the air - quick game/screen game, dress some things up with shifts/motions. Can't abandon it.
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gap schemes taught effectively always look to combo the first level to the 2nd level when possible.
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A7: if zone isn't working means they're stacking the box, bubbles and quick game should be there .
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A7: Gap scheme is good 2 use when zone is being stifled.
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you get as many if not more combos from rule based gap schemes than zone.
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A7: And next week at practice you better make some changes to what you're teaching & drilling to make sure your guys get it done
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A6: Boot, Wham, RPO, Read (DT), PA, Guard Kick, IZ w/ Jet Give opposite of IZ https://t.co/Ld4Wa0a66E
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Q6: What are your complementary plays off of your zone scheme?
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THIS -> Is it a scheme? A man? You gotta adapt, Darwin, I Ching, whatever...you gotta roll with it https://t.co/EAbsxW1P3R
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a7: the question you have 2 ask is why is your zone failing. You need adjustments or a different scheme 2 fix specific problems
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THIS -> Is it a scheme? A man? You gotta adapt, Darwin, I Ching, whatever...you gotta roll with it https://t.co/CX7gyni1Gk
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a7: the question you have 2 ask is why is your zone failing. You need adjustments or a different scheme 2 fix specific problems
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great chat again as usual! Thank you for getting this ball rolling and allowing us all to collaborate!
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A7: Gap runs...mainly power....we will eventually go back to zone...with more moving parts however.
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the talent is closer to even, if they are unsound they get crushed in college 90% of the time.