#sblchat Archive
Wednesday February 15, 2017
9:00 PM EST
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:00 PM EST
Good evening and welcome to
#sblchat
!
@RoweRikW
and I are thrilled to welcome guest moderator
@mctownsley
. Please start intros...
In reply to @RoweRikW, @mctownsley
KC_SEASportsFan
Feb 15 @ 9:00 PM EST
Brett, Lamar, Mo., aspiring K teacher!
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Evening!!
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:00 PM EST
Hello Brett!
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In reply to @KC_SEASportsFan
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:00 PM EST
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Hi everyone. I am a central office administrator from Eastern Iowa. Looking forward to tonight's chat.
MikeSzczepanik
Feb 15 @ 9:00 PM EST
hi
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Excited to be aboard tonight
CoachLesterBHS
Feb 15 @ 9:00 PM EST
Adam Lester, English teacher from Batavia High School. Excited to learn with all
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:01 PM EST
I'm Garnet, an instructional coach from the Chicagoland area. Looking forward to talking about Standards Based Grading & Higher Ed!
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:01 PM EST
So glad you are joining us to moderate tonight Matt!
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In reply to @mctownsley
AaronSBlackwel1
Feb 15 @ 9:01 PM EST
Aaron Blackwelder HS English from SW Washington
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RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:01 PM EST
Brett, thrilled to see you back to learn in
#sblchat
tonight with
@garnet_hillman
and
@mctownsley
!
In reply to @KC_SEASportsFan, @garnet_hillman, @mctownsley
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:01 PM EST
Good evening Mike!
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In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
RESP3CTtheGAME
Feb 15 @ 9:01 PM EST
Brian, HS ELA from WI. Ready for an hour of
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drangelapeery
Feb 15 @ 9:01 PM EST
Angela from SC, author and consultant, ready to roll!
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xakellis
Feb 15 @ 9:01 PM EST
Hi guys, Mike from
@TeacherEase
in Chicago-land.
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In reply to @TeacherEase
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:01 PM EST
Hi Aaron!
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In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
KatieWhite426
Feb 15 @ 9:01 PM EST
Katie White from Canada. Interested in tonight's topic!
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mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:01 PM EST
Hi, Aaron!
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In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:01 PM EST
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Hi Matt -- Gosh, we're lucky to have you tonight!
In reply to @mctownsley
mrsprebble84
Feb 15 @ 9:01 PM EST
Becky Prebble HS English in the Chicago suburbs. Hi
#sblchat
!
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:01 PM EST
Matt, we're honored to have you here in
#sblchat
tonight!
@mctownsley
In reply to @mctownsley
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:00 PM EST
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Hi everyone. I am a central office administrator from Eastern Iowa. Looking forward to tonight's chat.
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:01 PM EST
We are so glad you are joining us for the hour Brian!
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In reply to @RESP3CTtheGAME
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:01 PM EST
Mike, Welcome!
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In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:01 PM EST
Canada!!!!!
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In reply to @KatieWhite426
BradLatzke
Feb 15 @ 9:01 PM EST
Brad in Bangkok joining
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.
JohnSchlender
Feb 15 @ 9:02 PM EST
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John Schlender, Middle School Principal, Mayville, WI
@1stEdResources
In reply to @1stEdResources
KatieBudrow
Feb 15 @ 9:02 PM EST
Why hello there,
#sblchat
! Katie, 6th grade science teacher, tweeting from the Chicagoland area tonight. So happy to be here!
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:02 PM EST
Good evening Angela!
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In reply to @drangelapeery
azawlocki
Feb 15 @ 9:02 PM EST
April in IL...Prof of Ed. Had to jump in for this convo
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CoachLesterBHS
Feb 15 @ 9:02 PM EST
Good to see you here tonight Becky. Excited for our training in a few weeks.
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In reply to @mrsprebble84
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:02 PM EST
Great to have you with us again Mike!
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In reply to @xakellis
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:02 PM EST
hey, Rick. As you know, I've learned a TON from your books & articles.
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In reply to @rickwormeli2
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:02 PM EST
Adam, we're excited you are willing to learn with our
#sblchat
Crew Tonight!
In reply to @CoachLesterBHS
TomSchimmer
Feb 15 @ 9:02 PM EST
Tom from Vancouver, BC coming to you from Appleton, WI! Post dinner cookies and
#sblchat
- doesn't get any better than that!
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:02 PM EST
hey, Becky!
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In reply to @mrsprebble84
rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:02 PM EST
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Rick Wormeli coming to you from Herndon, VA tonight, taking a break from writing...
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:02 PM EST
Awesome to have you with us tonight Katie!
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In reply to @KatieWhite426
kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:02 PM EST
Ken OโConnor, in The Villages, FlL, the largest adult living community in the USA.
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RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:02 PM EST
Brian, we are ready to learn in
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TONIGHT!
In reply to @RESP3CTtheGAME
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:02 PM EST
Love it! Thanks for joining us Tom.
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In reply to @TomSchimmer
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:02 PM EST
good evening, Ken!!
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In reply to @kenoc7
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
Good evening Becky!
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In reply to @mrsprebble84
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
Angela is Ready to Roll!
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In reply to @drangelapeery
teachshel
Feb 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
Shelley from Virginia Beach popping in and out while putting my son to bed (late) - just finished
#vbedchat
about JOY!
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
Great to chat with you again Brad!
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In reply to @BradLatzke
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
Please to have you with our
#sblchat
Crew, Mike!
In reply to @xakellis, @TeacherEase
MrLencioni
Feb 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
Mike here from Chicagoland.
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mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
thank you for inviting me, Rik!
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@garnet_hillman
In reply to @RoweRikW, @garnet_hillman
KristenSHunter
Feb 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
Kristen HS English & HS literacy. Connecticut
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TomSchimmer
Feb 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
Glad I could finally make one!
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In reply to @garnet_hillman
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
Katie, Welcome Back!
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In reply to @KatieWhite426
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
Good evening John!
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In reply to @JohnSchlender, @1stEdResources
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
hey, Mike! (go Cubs, go?!)
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In reply to @MrLencioni
KC_SEASportsFan
Feb 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
Hey!! ๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป
@mctownsley
And I'm looking forward to it!
#SBLChat
In reply to @RoweRikW, @garnet_hillman, @mctownsley
kirk_humphreys
Feb 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
Hello
#sblchat
! Kirk here from the Chicago Northshore. Teacher of 6-8th grade double accelerated math.
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
Good evening friend!
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In reply to @KatieBudrow
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
Like this tweet if you're new to
#sblchat
so we can welcome you to our Crew.
elsainga
Feb 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
Elsa glover instructional coach.
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RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
Becky, pleased to share this
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time with you!
In reply to @mrsprebble84
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
Yay! So glad you are here April.
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In reply to @azawlocki
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
Welcome, Friend!
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In reply to @BradLatzke
kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
Hi Matt.
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In reply to @mctownsley
rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
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You, too!
In reply to @drangelapeery
mbkkelsey
Feb 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
Matt from Guanghzou here to lurk for
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#ๆไปฌNCPA
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
Good evening Ken!
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In reply to @kenoc7
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
John, pleased to have you tonight in
#sblchat
.
In reply to @JohnSchlender, @1stEdResources
drangelapeery
Feb 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
Tom aren't you one of my fellow
@SolutionTree
authors? Nice to see you.
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In reply to @TomSchimmer, @SolutionTree
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
April, thank you for joining us!
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In reply to @azawlocki
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:05 PM EST
So glad you could join us tonight Rick!
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In reply to @rickwormeli2
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:05 PM EST
Good evening Shelley!
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In reply to @teachshel
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:05 PM EST
No break here in
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TONIGHT!
rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:02 PM EST
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Rick Wormeli coming to you from Herndon, VA tonight, taking a break from writing...
hoffmanteambret
Feb 15 @ 9:05 PM EST
Brett from the once mighty ed state of IA. 6th Math, Sci, SS
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Admittedly preoccupied with SF213
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:05 PM EST
Good evening Mike! Thanks so much for all your help this week!
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In reply to @MrLencioni
staylor0203
Feb 15 @ 9:05 PM EST
Sarah Taylor MS reading/writing specialist & doctoral candidate Londonderry, NH
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TomSchimmer
Feb 15 @ 9:05 PM EST
I am
@drangelapeery
! Nice to 'see' you too!
@SolutionTree
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In reply to @drangelapeery, @SolutionTree
youngsoulja_
Feb 15 @ 9:05 PM EST
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rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:05 PM EST
Hey Matt! I loved Guanghzou two years ago!
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What a place to teach!
In reply to @mbkkelsey
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:06 PM EST
Hello Kristen!
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In reply to @KristenSHunter
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:06 PM EST
It's a JOY to have you in
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tonight, Shelley!
In reply to @teachshel
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:06 PM EST
hey, Brett! I think we're still a bit mighty here in Iowa.
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In reply to @hoffmanteambret
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:06 PM EST
Greetings, Mike!
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In reply to @MrLencioni
KatieBudrow
Feb 15 @ 9:06 PM EST
Hola pal! Happy Wednesday!
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In reply to @garnet_hillman
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:06 PM EST
Welcome Kristen!
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In reply to @KristenSHunter
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:06 PM EST
#cubs
#letsgo
#flythew
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In reply to @mctownsley, @MrLencioni
kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:06 PM EST
Glad to see you are presenting at the CAfLN conference in Saskatoon in May. Hope we get lots of participants.
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In reply to @KatieWhite426
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:07 PM EST
Q1) What do higher education institutions need to know about standards-based grading practices?
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:07 PM EST
Good evening Kirk!
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In reply to @kirk_humphreys
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:07 PM EST
Good evening to a fellow instructional coach!
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In reply to @elsainga
koliver555
Feb 15 @ 9:07 PM EST
Kelly Oliver just checking in. Excited to learn tonight.
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RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:07 PM EST
Matt, jump in tonight! Lurkers welcome, but participants are empowered!
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In reply to @mbkkelsey
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:07 PM EST
Good evening Matt!
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In reply to @mbkkelsey
MikeSzczepanik
Feb 15 @ 9:07 PM EST
power packed
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tonight
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1 Standards based grading does not give students โan easy way outโ. It demands that they learn.
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RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1 - Our High School Standards-Based Learning environment encourages our Learners to be more focused on Learning than just grades.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
Hi Brett!
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In reply to @hoffmanteambret
rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
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A!: How much more accurate they are over traditional grading approaches
In reply to @mctownsley
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
Here's Matt's first Question for us!
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mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:07 PM EST
Q1) What do higher education institutions need to know about standards-based grading practices?
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hoffmanteambret
Feb 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
Disagree Matt, huge step backwards. Districts shouldnt have to rush contracts to ensure T get benifits
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In reply to @mctownsley
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
Thanks for joining us Sarah!
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In reply to @staylor0203
debralcamp
Feb 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
Hi everyone! Excited to participate in
#sblchat
for the first time. I want to learn about SBL practices! Debbie from Houston.
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
Kelly, we're excited to have you here!
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In reply to @koliver555
KatieWhite426
Feb 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
Thanks Ken. I hope so, too! I am really looking forward to it!
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In reply to @kenoc7
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
great point, Rik. SBG helps us turn grades into a communication medium.
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In reply to @RoweRikW
CoachLesterBHS
Feb 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1- SBL/SBG yields learners who are self aware and actually know what they are supposed to, as opposed to Ss who can play school
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mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:07 PM EST
Q1) What do higher education institutions need to know about standards-based grading practices?
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BradLatzke
Feb 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1 Focusing on the learning would certainly reduce the loud complaints from college profs about grade inflation, grade grubbing.
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rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
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A1: And how SBG better prepares students for the persistence and maturation needed for university level work/success.
In reply to @mctownsley
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
Good evening Kelly!
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In reply to @koliver555
KatieBudrow
Feb 15 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1 That Ss know how to focus on learning. They have specific skills that they are proficient in and can tell you all about them!
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RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:09 PM EST
Communication is Key FOR Learning!
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@mctownsley
In reply to @mctownsley
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
great point, Rik. SBG helps us turn grades into a communication medium.
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In reply to @RoweRikW
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:09 PM EST
welcome, Debbie!
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In reply to @debralcamp
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:09 PM EST
POWER-packed!
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MikeSzczepanik
Feb 15 @ 9:07 PM EST
power packed
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tonight
TomSchimmer
Feb 15 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1: That grades are learning-centered & offer a clearer view of what students know, can do, or understand
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AaronSBlackwel1
Feb 15 @ 9:09 PM EST
Higher learning needs to know that SBG are a more accurate description of student proficiency and SBL is intentional and rigorous.
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Martin_Bennet_1
Feb 15 @ 9:09 PM EST
@Martin_Bennet_1
Here from St. Louis. Let's go Blues!
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In reply to @Martin_Bennet_1
kirk_humphreys
Feb 15 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1: First and foremost, they have to understand what it is, how it works and what that the levels of proficiencies mean.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:10 PM EST
RT Q1 - What do higher education institutions need to know about standards-based grading practices?
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hoffmanteambret
Feb 15 @ 9:10 PM EST
Hi Garnet, ty for having me!
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In reply to @garnet_hillman
NKleinmeyer
Feb 15 @ 9:10 PM EST
Nathan Kleinmeyer, 8th American History in Plattsmouth, NE.
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RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:10 PM EST
Kindly welcome Debbie {
@debralcamp
} to her first
#sblchat
with
@mctownsley
,
@garnet_hillman
and our Crew!
#HighFives
In reply to @debralcamp, @mctownsley, @garnet_hillman
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:10 PM EST
solid point, Aaron. How can we help them understand this shift?
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In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1 SB Grades are more accurate than traditional grades, & S from SBG schools are learners not grade grubbers.
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In reply to @mctownsley
mbkkelsey
Feb 15 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1: That scores won't boil down to a double-digit percentage in the same way as traditional grades...just got that q today
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koliver555
Feb 15 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1 Higher Ed will appreciate accurate and specific reporting of proficiency/grades so they can take learning on from there.
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azawlocki
Feb 15 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1: That it can be done. Seems simple, but I work in HE. There are many walls that must be broken down to have this convo
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TomSchimmer
Feb 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1: That the isolation of proficiency has also = a more authentic addressing of character-based competecies (i.e. responsibility)
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kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
Lots from your division?
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In reply to @KatieWhite426
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
Good evening Nathan!
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In reply to @NKleinmeyer
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
I liked the phrase "grade grubbers." :)
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In reply to @kenoc7
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
Focused on Learning, Wow!
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@KatieBudrow
In reply to @KatieBudrow
KatieBudrow
Feb 15 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1 That Ss know how to focus on learning. They have specific skills that they are proficient in and can tell you all about them!
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rggillespie
Feb 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
Listening to recent HS grads return from college, they-and their profs-want prepared Ss. SBG can help
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hoffmanteambret
Feb 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1 High Ed needs to understand that we are move from compliance to thinking.
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teachshel
Feb 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
Many HS Ts fear SBG fails to prep Ss for success in higher ed - that there are no 2nd chances, deadline extensions, etc. Thoughts?
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rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
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A1: And how SBG better prepares students for the persistence and maturation needed for university level work/success.
In reply to @mctownsley
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
Martin, welcome to
#sblchat
Tonight!
In reply to @Martin_Bennet_1
mrsprebble84
Feb 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1: SBG reports actually give a more reflective well rounded view of applicants
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KatieWhite426
Feb 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1: When we understand our standards and design assessment first, then learners will learn more and teachers will be empowered
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NKleinmeyer
Feb 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1: Higher institutions need to know that students are learning skills to acquire more learning b/c they aren't focused on grades.
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rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
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Higher Ed should also know that it's doable, mostly in the smaller sophmore, Jr. Senior, grad courses, but doable!
In reply to @garnet_hillman
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
for sure, Reed. I think it would be great if we could capture these student testimonials in some formal way!
#sblchat
In reply to @rggillespie
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
Nathan, pleased you could join our
#sblchat
Crew tonight!
In reply to @NKleinmeyer
azawlocki
Feb 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: HE is stuck in1985more than any school I've ever been in.I wish there were more profs here to talk. This is part of the problem
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debralcamp
Feb 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1 How do records from SBG compare to what Universities traditional see? Rankings, gpas & scores are easy to compare?
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TomSchimmer
Feb 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: That 'highest grades' = 'highest learning' which isn't/wasn't always true with traditional grading (extra credit)
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RESP3CTtheGAME
Feb 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1
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practices empower learners. Clear what learners know & can do. Higher ed app process could benefit from that information
hoffmanteambret
Feb 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
So Agree!
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But so are many grading practices
azawlocki
Feb 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: HE is stuck in1985more than any school I've ever been in.I wish there were more profs here to talk. This is part of the problem
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drangelapeery
Feb 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1: Higher ed colleagues need to understand that idiosyncracy is not part of SBG, such as "I deduct 20 points for ea comma splice."
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CoachLesterBHS
Feb 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
Definitely. Not only that, they know HOW they learn best as well.
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In reply to @RESP3CTtheGAME
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
Prepared is what our Learners will be with Standards-Based Learning!
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rggillespie
Feb 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
Listening to recent HS grads return from college, they-and their profs-want prepared Ss. SBG can help
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KristenSHunter
Feb 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
How can we compare students if not everyone is SBG? Is there a universal formula for converting?
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In reply to @koliver555
MikeSzczepanik
Feb 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1 - SBG is more consistent T to T than Traditional grades
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rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
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Yep, it's way off base. Such comments r usually made by folks who haven't explored SBG deeply -- A very fixable thing!
In reply to @teachshel
xakellis
Feb 15 @ 9:14 PM EST
I think it's probably the unknown they fear. SBG builds many of the skills adult professionals need.
@teachshel
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In reply to @teachshel
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:14 PM EST
Great point, Brett!
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@hoffmanteambret
In reply to @hoffmanteambret
hoffmanteambret
Feb 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1 High Ed needs to understand that we are move from compliance to thinking.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:14 PM EST
The best way we can prepare students for what is next is to ensure that they learn. Reassessment supports that.
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In reply to @teachshel
KatieWhite426
Feb 15 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1: That they should try it themselves, feel the clarity, and experience the difference it makes to student thinking
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CoachLesterBHS
Feb 15 @ 9:14 PM EST
Ss actually know things through SBL as opposed to not learning because they didn't learn "in time"
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In reply to @teachshel
rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:14 PM EST
#sblchat
I submit that it is way more preparatory for college success than is traditional grading, maturing students faster.
In reply to @teachshel
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:14 PM EST
#sblchat
Q2 coming up in a few minutes!
TomSchimmer
Feb 15 @ 9:15 PM EST
Odd
@teachshel
how some think 'penalizing the absence of behaviors' will 'prepare.' Teach 'em how to meet deadlines; that's prep
#sblchat
In reply to @teachshel
debralcamp
Feb 15 @ 9:15 PM EST
How do we show that info to Higher Ed so that they can use it efficiently to screen the # of applicants they get?
#sblchat
In reply to @RESP3CTtheGAME
BradLatzke
Feb 15 @ 9:15 PM EST
A1 It doesn't help much when many profs/TAs have never been trained or experienced as teachers.
#sblchat
rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:15 PM EST
#sblchat
It's far more demanding of students to really learn it, not just buffer grades with peripherals that show no evidence.
In reply to @teachshel
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:15 PM EST
Terrific point, Mike!
#sblchat
@MikeSzczepanik
In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
MikeSzczepanik
Feb 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1 - SBG is more consistent T to T than Traditional grades
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:15 PM EST
So true April - we need to get more profs involved here. Ideas?
#sblchat
In reply to @azawlocki
BradColumbus
Feb 15 @ 9:15 PM EST
puts the ownership of learning on the S..colleges believe they do w/traditional grading but actually create the opposite culture
#sblchat
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:07 PM EST
Q1) What do higher education institutions need to know about standards-based grading practices?
#sblchat
azawlocki
Feb 15 @ 9:15 PM EST
Many of you are in Chicagoland. Let's meet with HE. There are so many local. We can make a change
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
Q2) How does not counting homework in the HS final grade impact students who go on to college?
#sblchat
donald_gately
Feb 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
yes -- can't just "play school"
#sblchat
In reply to @rickwormeli2, @teachshel
ms_cschrader
Feb 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
Hey everyone! Checking in for a bit and excited to learn!
#sblchat
goformative
Feb 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
Hey everyone! David from
#goformative
here! Community Manager and former special educator! Excited to hear everyone's perspectives!
#sblchat
kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
Those things increasingly happening in higher ed but S are prepared for success because they are self-directed learners.
#sblchat
In reply to @teachshel
rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
#sblchat
And, it's more closely aligned with real-world evaluation programs, being evidence based. Really have to know your stuff
In reply to @teachshel
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
Critical thinking is what employers want!!
#sblchat
KatieWhite426
Feb 15 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1: That they should try it themselves, feel the clarity, and experience the difference it makes to student thinking
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
Love it - let's talk more about outreach.
#sblchat
In reply to @azawlocki
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
solid. Do some view ownership as "responsibility" minded in a different way?
#sblchat
In reply to @BradColumbus
AaronSBlackwel1
Feb 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
A1: SBL is not lowering the standard. It is emphasizing the standards.
#sblchat
azawlocki
Feb 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
It has to start with face-to-face in HE. It won't take flight on Twitter alone
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman
kirk_humphreys
Feb 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
A2: In college, very few classes ever graded practice. It was all based on tests or papers that were summative.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
Ready or not, Matt's Q2 is coming at you!
#sblchat
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:14 PM EST
#sblchat
Q2 coming up in a few minutes!
xakellis
Feb 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
In my experience, many HSs want to convert final SB-grades into traditional scores. They fear disadvantaging their Ss
@debralcamp
#sblchat
In reply to @debralcamp
koliver555
Feb 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
Great pt to consider. Colleges (80) are currently looking at portfolio applications not GPA. Things are opening.
#sblchat
In reply to @KristenSHunter
hoffmanteambret
Feb 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
Also that sbl leads to S have thourgh understanding. Cant move to next concept until proven knowledge, no holes.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
A2 Homework assignments are typically not part of the grade when students get to college. This mirrors SBG.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
A2 - Our
#HSMath
proficiency only includes in-class assessments. There is no need to grade Practice (HW). College need not either.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
Carrie, Welcome!
#sblchat
In reply to @ms_cschrader
rggillespie
Feb 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
2 blogs capturing what our recent grads said and what it means for HS teachers
https://t.co/gWLTUxH70D
&
https://t.co/sHUNrGwjS2
#sblchat
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
for sure, Reed. I think it would be great if we could capture these student testimonials in some formal way!
#sblchat
In reply to @rggillespie
katobar
Feb 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
@rickwormeli2
Any recommendations on resources for standards-based grading for the ELA classroom?
#sblchat
In reply to @rickwormeli2
briandurgin
Feb 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
A2: It doesn't. Ss have already gotten accepted to another academic institution.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
David, always pleased to welcome you and
@goformative
to our
#sblchat
Crew!
In reply to @goformative, @goformative
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
Thanks so much for joining us Carrie!
#sblchat
In reply to @ms_cschrader
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
BAM!!
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Feb 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
A1: SBL is not lowering the standard. It is emphasizing the standards.
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Feb 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
A2 Most of my college experience was project-based, so homework wasn't even a word that was said in higher ed.
#sblchat
kirk_humphreys
Feb 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
While I practice & believe in SBG there are times I don't feel it prepares Ss for college/high schools w/ grades.I feel I fail them
#sblchat
rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
#sblchat
'No impact in terms of academic performance technically, but positive impact on maturation, understanding how to learn
In reply to @mctownsley
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
tell me more about what you mean.
#sblchat
In reply to @briandurgin
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
Good evening David!
#sblchat
In reply to @goformative
TomSchimmer
Feb 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
A2: It should be higher/more accurate as most will learn over time. Standards don't say '...by tomorrow' so early errors ok
#sblchat
BradColumbus
Feb 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
Prof get frustrated when S don't own learning because there is no culture to empower. They just expect it because they r paying
#sblchat
BradColumbus
Feb 15 @ 9:15 PM EST
puts the ownership of learning on the S..colleges believe they do w/traditional grading but actually create the opposite culture
#sblchat
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:07 PM EST
Q1) What do higher education institutions need to know about standards-based grading practices?
#sblchat
RESP3CTtheGAME
Feb 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
Imagine how potential employers could leverage the complete picture of a candidate if colleges reported detailed info using SBG
#sblchat
katobar
Feb 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
Any recommendations for standards-based grading for the ELA classroom?
#sblchat
debralcamp
Feb 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
That is where I am stuck. If we have to do that in the end, how do we make it work?
@rickwormeli2
what's the solution?
#sblchat
In reply to @xakellis, @rickwormeli2
goformative
Feb 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
Hey Garnet!
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman
kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
Not pure SBG but nothing in sbg prevents extrapolation to subject grades, gpaโs and - horror of horrors - class rank.
#sblchat
In reply to @debralcamp
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:19 PM EST
RT Q2 - How does not counting homework in the HS final grade impact students who go on to college?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:19 PM EST
Solid and thorough understanding with Standards-Based Learning!
#sblchat
hoffmanteambret
Feb 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
Also that sbl leads to S have thourgh understanding. Cant move to next concept until proven knowledge, no holes.
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Feb 15 @ 9:19 PM EST
A2: How does HW in the grade help Ts understand what a student knows? Many kids copy HW so, then HW tarnishes the grade
#sblchat
briandurgin
Feb 15 @ 9:19 PM EST
if Ss have gotten accepted to college in March what do grades in May matter?
#sblchat
In reply to @mctownsley
KatieWhite426
Feb 15 @ 9:19 PM EST
A1: That Ss who have lived SBG are extremely frustrated by uninformative, arbitrary HE assessment practices (from a mom w/a HE kid)
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Feb 15 @ 9:19 PM EST
Adding to the hmwk debate ... should we assign or not. I always say ... "It depends" what's the purpose? what age? Can make up?
#sblchat
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
Q2) How does not counting homework in the HS final grade impact students who go on to college?
#sblchat
kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:19 PM EST
Comparisons are less valid with traditional grades than SBG.
#sblchat
In reply to @KristenSHunter, @koliver555
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:19 PM EST
I've heard it both ways, literally -- HW not counting in college and HW counting in college.
#sblchat
In reply to @rickwormeli2
rggillespie
Feb 15 @ 9:19 PM EST
A2: Rare for college class to count HW; that doesn't mean it's not valuable. Ss should see value of HW for learning not for points
#sblchat
TomSchimmer
Feb 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2: College is more abt 'work done at home' which speaks more to behavoral attributes (responsibility). Trad HW rare in college
#sblchat
NKleinmeyer
Feb 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2: If we empower students as part of the SBL Process they understand that homework is the journey. Effect is better learners.
#sblchat
hoffmanteambret
Feb 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
How does grading HW make you "college ready"?
#sblchat
BradLatzke
Feb 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2 Do many profs/TAs grade HW in college? Focus on providing Ss opportunities to demonstrate responsibility in HS beyond HW.
#sblchat
mathconfidence
Feb 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
Engineering classes 90% tests 10% graded HW hw helped us study 4 tests plus u needed thepts
#sblchat
In reply to @kirk_humphreys
rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
#sblchat
The one thing I DO see happening more in Highr Ed r on-line modules prof's monitor for completion & count in grade
In reply to @kirk_humphreys
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
I agree, but I've heard it both ways: Some college classes count HW towards grade and others do not.
#sblchat
In reply to @TomSchimmer
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
Kids don't need preparation for letter grades, they need preparation with knowledge, understandings, and skills.
#sblchat
In reply to @kirk_humphreys
staylor0203
Feb 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
absolutely! Reacting, Redoing, and Resubmitting is more rigorous than stamping a 50% and moving on
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman
donald_gately
Feb 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
didn't count when I went to college -- I guess prof knew when you hadn't done reading - but count?
#sblchat
In reply to @mctownsley, @rickwormeli2
casehighprinc
Feb 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
Agree
@MikeSzczepanik
: homework must be purposeful rather than an exercise in futility or compliance. Ts need to ask WHY hmk?
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Feb 15 @ 9:19 PM EST
Adding to the hmwk debate ... should we assign or not. I always say ... "It depends" what's the purpose? what age? Can make up?
#sblchat
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
Q2) How does not counting homework in the HS final grade impact students who go on to college?
#sblchat
RESP3CTtheGAME
Feb 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
Big question!
@debralcamp
#sblchat
In reply to @debralcamp
debralcamp
Feb 15 @ 9:15 PM EST
How do we show that info to Higher Ed so that they can use it efficiently to screen the # of applicants they get?
#sblchat
In reply to @RESP3CTtheGAME
teachshel
Feb 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
We in (K-12) have a responsibility to teach Ss the value of practice over compliance. Begins with differentiated HW
#sblchat
rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
#sblchat
'No impact in terms of academic performance technically, but positive impact on maturation, understanding how to learn
In reply to @mctownsley
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
@RESP3CTtheGAME
#sblchat
In reply to @RESP3CTtheGAME
katobar
Feb 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
Any recommendations for standards-based grading for the ELA classroom?
#sblchat
ms_cschrader
Feb 15 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2: Students need to understand the why and how it directly applies to their subject to effectively learn the skill.
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Feb 15 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2 - Is homework (or any formative assessment) intended to be graded or should it be considered practice?
#sblchat
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:21 PM EST
In my undergrad (~15 years ago), HW count towards grade in less than half of classes, I'd estimate.
#sblchat
In reply to @donald_gately, @rickwormeli2
kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:21 PM EST
ABSOLUTELY!!!
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Feb 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
A1: SBL is not lowering the standard. It is emphasizing the standards.
#sblchat
koliver555
Feb 15 @ 9:21 PM EST
@katobar
@rickwormeli2
We are currently using SBG in ELA classes. They fit hand and glove!
#sblchat
In reply to @katobar, @rickwormeli2
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:21 PM EST
Copying HW? What?
#STOPIT
#sblchat
#Humor
AaronSBlackwel1
Feb 15 @ 9:19 PM EST
A2: How does HW in the grade help Ts understand what a student knows? Many kids copy HW so, then HW tarnishes the grade
#sblchat
TomSchimmer
Feb 15 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2: HW should be examined through assessment purpose. FA? no count. SA? then count, provided ample practice/learning. Few absolutes
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:22 PM EST
Middle school? High school?
#sblchat
In reply to @katobar
swvhsprin
Feb 15 @ 9:22 PM EST
Gr8 DLT convos 2day on
#sblchat
- positive, engaging, and thoughtful at such a high level!
mrsprebble84
Feb 15 @ 9:22 PM EST
I feel that conversations about HE paint in broad strokes and don't take into account the wide variety of experiences Ss will have
#sblchat
rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:22 PM EST
#sblchat
So the question becomes what counts ultimately in the maturation of the student for life and leads to the most learng?
In reply to @mctownsley
Bhsteeler
Feb 15 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2: most undergrad degrees based on a few high stakes assessments, most homework ๐ unlike post secondary assessments
#sblchat
hoffmanteambret
Feb 15 @ 9:22 PM EST
Grade HW in forcing test prep in extrinsic motivation. What pt are we push intrinsic motivation for learn?
#sblchat
BradColumbus
Feb 15 @ 9:22 PM EST
it's expected that they enter ready to own because they chose to attend but many S r still unsure of who they r and what they want
#sblchat
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
solid. Do some view ownership as "responsibility" minded in a different way?
#sblchat
In reply to @BradColumbus
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:22 PM EST
here's the SBG resources page
https://t.co/ztuNiwR9VN
#sblchat
In reply to @CoachLesterBHS, @katobar
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:22 PM EST
It doesn't, so
#STOPIT
!
#sblchat
hoffmanteambret
Feb 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
How does grading HW make you "college ready"?
#sblchat
TomSchimmer
Feb 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
Sure
@mctownsley
, but still leads to inaccuracies if 'too soon' or if combined/averaged over time. Reveals poor assess literacy
#sblchat
In reply to @mctownsley
kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
Why? How? I think you are probably being too hard on yourself and would be surprised if you asked your students.
#sblchat
In reply to @kirk_humphreys
koliver555
Feb 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
Such a shift from chasing grades to chasing learning for Students and Parents, too.
#sblchat
In reply to @BradColumbus
teachshel
Feb 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
True - it's about time mgmnt and prioritizing what and how much you study. More respectful of Ss self-management.
#sblchat
In reply to @TomSchimmer
debralcamp
Feb 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
A2 HW does not transfer to H Ed in my opinion @ all Studying, processing & digging deeper to understand on a personal level matters
#sblchat
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
AGREE!
#sblchat
. I think that's the point we should all keep communicating.
In reply to @TomSchimmer
briandurgin
Feb 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
experienced this in last online class frustrating. Profs require a certain amount of posts
#sblchat
In reply to @rickwormeli2, @kirk_humphreys
BradLatzke
Feb 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
This is a great SBG resource!
#sblchat
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:22 PM EST
here's the SBG resources page
https://t.co/ztuNiwR9VN
#sblchat
In reply to @CoachLesterBHS, @katobar
kirk_humphreys
Feb 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
Agree but what I fear is by giving them reassessments, I am not preparing them for classes that don't reassess.
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman
rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:24 PM EST
#sblchat
I agree, and I would add that w/in any one university, different depts have varying degrees of implementation.
In reply to @mrsprebble84
Bhsteeler
Feb 15 @ 9:24 PM EST
A2: homework that is well constructed grows understanding, deepens knowledge and is an opportunity to fail now to succeed later
#sblchat
TomSchimmer
Feb 15 @ 9:24 PM EST
A2: Grading HW is 90% behavioral compliance/control related...though I know that 77% of all stats that are tweeted are made up ;-)
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:24 PM EST
Demanding that they learn is preparation. Leaving gaps in their learning is not.
#sblchat
In reply to @kirk_humphreys
KatieBudrow
Feb 15 @ 9:24 PM EST
Kirk, you are preparing your students by teaching them how to learn.
#enoughsaid
#sblchat
In reply to @kirk_humphreys, @garnet_hillman
debralcamp
Feb 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
Yes exactly!
#sblchat
In reply to @xakellis
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
Q3) How does offering students opportunities to reassess in HS impact students who go on to higher education?
#sblchat
koliver555
Feb 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
It is that difficult compromise of translating grades that has allowed our grass roots effort to exist and grow
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7, @debralcamp
kirk_humphreys
Feb 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
I hope I am. I allow Ss to continually reassess and I'm feeling I am doing them a disservice in preparing them for HS math.
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7
xakellis
Feb 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
I would argue that thoughtful practice is good. I did college HW, even though it wasn't graded, and it helped
@MikeSzczepanik
#sblchat
In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
Check out
#MakeItStick
by Peter C. Brown for better preparation for college!
#sblchat
debralcamp
Feb 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
A2 HW does not transfer to H Ed in my opinion @ all Studying, processing & digging deeper to understand on a personal level matters
#sblchat
KatieWhite426
Feb 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
I was going to say this, too. My daughter has completion/mastery quizzes and tasks every week.
#sblchat
In reply to @rickwormeli2, @kirk_humphreys
hoffmanteambret
Feb 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
But are we grade HW as replacement for true feedback?
#sblchat
rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
#sblchat
You bet! Literacy is a natural fit -- It's the way all of us learn our craft.
In reply to @koliver555, @katobar
kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
School profiles supporting transcripts.
#sblchat
In reply to @RESP3CTtheGAME, @debralcamp
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
A3 Reassessment ensures that students donโt leave high school w/large gaps in learning. This will lead to more success in college.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
A3 - In HS, when we ignite more learning through reassessing, we convey to our Learners the important of learning for Learning.
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Feb 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
A3- What's better? Mastery of content or penalization for not knowing?
#sblchat
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
Q3) How does offering students opportunities to reassess in HS impact students who go on to higher education?
#sblchat
debralcamp
Feb 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
Do you have an example of how you are translating the grades and making it work?
#sblchat
In reply to @koliver555, @kenoc7
drangelapeery
Feb 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
Is our job to prepare Ss for future classes or for REALITY? As an author, I ALWAYS get reassessed.
#sblchat
In reply to @kirk_humphreys, @garnet_hillman
BradColumbus
Feb 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
#sblchat
I have actually done some Grading reform PD with college prof. there is a lack of understanding on how S learn & what motivates
mbkkelsey
Feb 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
We let our HS students reassess after completing study agreement. And theyโve adjusted to college fine
#sblchat
In reply to @kirk_humphreys, @kenoc7
TomSchimmer
Feb 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
Exactly
@teachshel
! Grades get stu into college, but their behavoral capacity (management) is why they will graduate from college.
#sblchat
In reply to @teachshel
hoffmanteambret
Feb 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
Back in a min. gotta go get kiddo.
#sblchat
mrsprebble84
Feb 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
A3: It shows them what best work should look like. HS is not college. We don't prepare them by setting the same standards.
#sblchat
RESP3CTtheGAME
Feb 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
Our job is to teach Ss how to learn & learn how to think. HS provides personal attn through process
#sblchat
In reply to @kirk_humphreys, @garnet_hillman
KatieBudrow
Feb 15 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3 Reassessment teaches Ss that learning isn't static but fluid. There are lots of projects/papers, which are revised, in college.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3 - When we provide more learning through reassessing, we model for our Learners resilience, perseverance, and follow-through.
#sblchat
rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:27 PM EST
#sblchat
Oh, but you are! You're making sure he is competent. THAT is the best preparation, NOT incompetence
In reply to @kirk_humphreys, @garnet_hillman
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:27 PM EST
In the era of "no child left behind," this is key for us in K-12.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
A3 Reassessment ensures that students donโt leave high school w/large gaps in learning. This will lead to more success in college.
#sblchat
kirk_humphreys
Feb 15 @ 9:27 PM EST
That's good to hear and makes me feel better about my practices to always allow reassessment.
#sblchat
In reply to @mbkkelsey, @kenoc7
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:27 PM EST
We always try to look at the situation that is best for our Learners and their Learning.
#sblchat
@staylor0203
In reply to @staylor0203
staylor0203
Feb 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
I 100% agree!!! HW only inflates or deflates an already convoluted grading system that has no real merit to what students know
In reply to @RoweRikW
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:27 PM EST
So true, edits will be coming back on the manuscript soon!
#sblchat
In reply to @drangelapeery, @kirk_humphreys
briandurgin
Feb 15 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3: Most major tests you can retake ACT, SAT etc. why not in HS? Is it a magical test? It shows life long learning.
#sblchat
CoachLesterBHS
Feb 15 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3- They learn more. They are more skilled. They are more reflective and self aware. They are better overall learners.
#sblchat
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
Q3) How does offering students opportunities to reassess in HS impact students who go on to higher education?
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goformative
Feb 15 @ 9:27 PM EST
A2: You can provide Ss w/ more opps. to practice self-regulated learning as expected in college
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:28 PM EST
RT Q3 - How does offering students opportunities to reassess in HS impact students who go on to higher education?
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kirk_humphreys
Feb 15 @ 9:28 PM EST
Good point. Maybe I am just being too hard on myself.
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In reply to @rickwormeli2, @garnet_hillman
teachshel
Feb 15 @ 9:28 PM EST
I often hear it like this: a reward for those who do it.
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In reply to @hoffmanteambret
ms_cschrader
Feb 15 @ 9:28 PM EST
A3: Mastery of content!
@MikeSzczepanik
; More feedback, continuous, reassessment will help Ss be successful
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In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
debralcamp
Feb 15 @ 9:28 PM EST
I read that book along with
@cultofpedagogy
book study. I believe! Just trying to figure out what the bridge looks like to H Ed.
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RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
Check out
#MakeItStick
by Peter C. Brown for better preparation for college!
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debralcamp
Feb 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
A2 HW does not transfer to H Ed in my opinion @ all Studying, processing & digging deeper to understand on a personal level matters
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mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:28 PM EST
Yes, Brian! When no reassessment permitted, our class tests become more "high stakes" than ACT, etc.
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briandurgin
Feb 15 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3: Most major tests you can retake ACT, SAT etc. why not in HS? Is it a magical test? It shows life long learning.
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TomSchimmer
Feb 15 @ 9:28 PM EST
A3: Positive if it's abt a continual learning; Negative if it's "come in tomorrow & guess differently." Must be abt learning
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MikeSzczepanik
Feb 15 @ 9:28 PM EST
A3- Driver's test ... retake as often as necessary. There is no "Jr Licence" if you fail first time
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RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:28 PM EST
Our HS Math Learners reassess until they get it and get effectively communicate the Standard.
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kirk_humphreys
Feb 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
I hope I am. I allow Ss to continually reassess and I'm feeling I am doing them a disservice in preparing them for HS math.
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In reply to @kenoc7
xakellis
Feb 15 @ 9:28 PM EST
As an educator, I'd think that should be a requirement for anything you assign...
@CoachLesterBHS
@MikeSzczepanik
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In reply to @CoachLesterBHS, @MikeSzczepanik
kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:29 PM EST
DM me and Iโll send you an example logic rule.
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In reply to @debralcamp, @koliver555
KatieWhite426
Feb 15 @ 9:29 PM EST
This is interesting. Why do you think reassessment isn't preparing them?
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In reply to @kirk_humphreys
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:29 PM EST
no doubt. Could/should have included this other important group of learners. career-ready.
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In reply to @mrsprebble84
Bhsteeler
Feb 15 @ 9:29 PM EST
Use the practice analogy, successful teams put in the work and attention to detail even when there is no score, get game ready
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rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:29 PM EST
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'Maybe. Personal maturation and academic competence are best preparations for college rigor.
In reply to @kirk_humphreys, @garnet_hillman
NKleinmeyer
Feb 15 @ 9:29 PM EST
A3: the ability to reassess in high school teaches students that learning isn't over because of a test day.
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MrLencioni
Feb 15 @ 9:29 PM EST
A3 the self-evaluation that comes with re-assessment with help them in college and beyond.
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rggillespie
Feb 15 @ 9:29 PM EST
Which is more important: learning or being held to a deadline?โ Tried to answer this question with
https://t.co/gWLTUxH70D
see #8
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rggillespie
Feb 15 @ 9:29 PM EST
Which is more important: learning or being held to a deadline?โ Tried to answer this question with
https://t.co/SbBcUpF8Dq
see #8
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drangelapeery
Feb 15 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3: Reassessments are part of life, period. Most jobs require you to continually improve. Should also do this in our grading!
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TomSchimmer
Feb 15 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3: View assess through 'standards' lens & we see we already reassess b/c most standards assessed +1 times; it's built right in
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donald_gately
Feb 15 @ 9:30 PM EST
High leverage strategy according to Hattie
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In reply to @MrLencioni
briandurgin
Feb 15 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3: bigger question is how do we reassess and reteach?
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teachshel
Feb 15 @ 9:30 PM EST
Reassessment might look different from grade level to grade level - that's the convo many of our HS Ts are having.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
A3 Reassessment ensures that students donโt leave high school w/large gaps in learning. This will lead to more success in college.
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RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:30 PM EST
We can retake the bar exam also.
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briandurgin
Feb 15 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3: Most major tests you can retake ACT, SAT etc. why not in HS? Is it a magical test? It shows life long learning.
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KarlBaresel
Feb 15 @ 9:30 PM EST
Anymore resources on SBG in the ELA classroom? I am so sick of my grade book and want to inspire real learning.
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CoachLesterBHS
Feb 15 @ 9:31 PM EST
Yes. I am doing it right now. It's hard but it can be done.
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In reply to @KarlBaresel
koliver555
Feb 15 @ 9:31 PM EST
Ss aren't prepared for their HS math if they haven't learned the skills. We can keep working on HS too.
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In reply to @kirk_humphreys, @kenoc7
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:31 PM EST
How so? Tell me more about this.
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In reply to @teachshel
MikeSzczepanik
Feb 15 @ 9:31 PM EST
Million dollar Question here
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briandurgin
Feb 15 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3: bigger question is how do we reassess and reteach?
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mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:31 PM EST
https://t.co/AQRKZQad3x
is a great resources for many content-specific SBG examples.
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KarlBaresel
Feb 15 @ 9:30 PM EST
Anymore resources on SBG in the ELA classroom? I am so sick of my grade book and want to inspire real learning.
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RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:31 PM EST
No driving, but only on odd-numbered days!
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MikeSzczepanik
Feb 15 @ 9:28 PM EST
A3- Driver's test ... retake as often as necessary. There is no "Jr Licence" if you fail first time
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rggillespie
Feb 15 @ 9:31 PM EST
Most challenging class I took in college, daily quiz had to score 4/5 or else retake next class; if below 4/5 again short essay
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drangelapeery
Feb 15 @ 9:31 PM EST
As author of 13 books, didn't submit a single 1 on time. And I still get to publish! Quality over deadline every time.
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In reply to @rggillespie
BradLatzke
Feb 15 @ 9:31 PM EST
A3 When the focus is on learning, not the grade, wouldn't this provide a stronger academic foundation? In turn, better preparation?
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MikeSzczepanik
Feb 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
Just like alternate parking huh?
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In reply to @RoweRikW
KatieWhite426
Feb 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
A3: With reassessment, critical to teach Ss how to return to the learning cycle with purpose and stamina. That's what prepares them
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goformative
Feb 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
A3: You can teach self-assessment strategies thru engaging Ss in re-assessment! Useful for college!
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rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
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This goes way back to mastery learning and Benjamin Bloom. They re-taught/re-assessed low performrs until 'learned: Great success!
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
Thank you, Nathan!
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NKleinmeyer
Feb 15 @ 9:29 PM EST
A3: the ability to reassess in high school teaches students that learning isn't over because of a test day.
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TomSchimmer
Feb 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
A3: Ts do need to manage wellness; reassessing everything not necessary. Adequate sampling + most recent/frequent is sufficient
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EdCampBROOKLYN
Feb 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
Jumping in late entry Evening folks!
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kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
Challenging but was it a positive experience. Sounds like overkill to me.
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In reply to @rggillespie
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
We talked about this today in our HS Math Department meeting!
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NKleinmeyer
Feb 15 @ 9:29 PM EST
A3: the ability to reassess in high school teaches students that learning isn't over because of a test day.
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KarlBaresel
Feb 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
If allowing reassessments for essays, do you find that the essays are not required to be as long? Middle school ELA
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drangelapeery
Feb 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
Reflects the philosophy of retrieval practice per Roediger, Make It Stick.
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In reply to @rggillespie
CoachLesterBHS
Feb 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
Had a student write this on essay rewrite reflection. You don't get this kind of thinking without reassessment.
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mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
Bloom!!!
@tguskey
has helped me appreciate his master learning work as well. (theoretical framework of my dissertation)
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rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
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This goes way back to mastery learning and Benjamin Bloom. They re-taught/re-assessed low performrs until 'learned: Great success!
kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
Finally caught up after being 6 minutes behind on
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KatieWhite426
Feb 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
I agree. This is the critical piece to sort out. Because it can't be "fixing mistakes" or hoop jumping
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In reply to @briandurgin
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
We start with a F2F conversation to learn through the challenges.
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MikeSzczepanik
Feb 15 @ 9:31 PM EST
Million dollar Question here
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briandurgin
Feb 15 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3: bigger question is how do we reassess and reteach?
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drangelapeery
Feb 15 @ 9:34 PM EST
Actually sounds like good neuroscience to me.
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In reply to @kenoc7, @rggillespie
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:34 PM EST
Q4) Why are more elementary schools making the shift to SBG when compared to secondary schools?
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koliver555
Feb 15 @ 9:34 PM EST
For now, we assign each proficiency level an assigned (modal) grade (100-90-80-65) w/opportunity to grow
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In reply to @debralcamp, @kenoc7
debralcamp
Feb 15 @ 9:34 PM EST
Very true. This is a skill I we don't spend enough time on. Building those relationships & having sts assess, key!
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In reply to @goformative
rggillespie
Feb 15 @ 9:34 PM EST
Good ? Prof was engaging; was also class in my major...across the board grades were GPA killers for most Ss
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In reply to @kenoc7
AaronSBlackwel1
Feb 15 @ 9:34 PM EST
A3: It reiterates the importance of the learning. I believe students should not have the option to retest. It should be expected.
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RESP3CTtheGAME
Feb 15 @ 9:34 PM EST
Embed reassessment in writing process. Draft work becomes formative assessment, feedback/revision until publication
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In reply to @KarlBaresel
drangelapeery
Feb 15 @ 9:34 PM EST
Look up the concept of interleaving, also known as mixed practice. Impt concept for mastery. I learned from Roediger.
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In reply to @rggillespie
kirk_humphreys
Feb 15 @ 9:34 PM EST
A4: Honestly, I think elementary schools have more willing to change while sec. schools are more traditional.
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RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
A4 - Wondering if elementary schools are more focused on Learning through Standards while HS are still hung up on grades/GPAs.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
A4 At the elementary level, grades are not the focus and are not high stakes (scholarships, etc.). It is an easier change.
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CoachLesterBHS
Feb 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
A4- Secondary schools confuse rigor and accountability with grading and late penalities. Real accountability making sure Ss learn
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mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:34 PM EST
Q4) Why are more elementary schools making the shift to SBG when compared to secondary schools?
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RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
Welcome to tonight's INTENSE
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!
EdCampBROOKLYN
Feb 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
Jumping in late entry Evening folks!
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MikeSzczepanik
Feb 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
A4 - Great question ... are secondary hiding behind the classrank and admissions to college idea?
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mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:34 PM EST
Q4) Why are more elementary schools making the shift to SBG when compared to secondary schools?
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donald_gately
Feb 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
A4 fewer kids on roster makes it more accessible?
@mctownsley
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In reply to @mctownsley
briandurgin
Feb 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
so true. Constraints of school structure can hinder this as well.
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In reply to @KatieWhite426
kirk_humphreys
Feb 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
4: Honestly, I think elementary schools are more willing to change while secondary schools are more traditional.
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teachshel
Feb 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
AP classes dif from core; seniors dif from freshmen. T's lean on the "prepare them for the real, unforgiving world"
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In reply to @garnet_hillman
debralcamp
Feb 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
Opportunity to grow? Will you change the assigned grade at any point or are there still grading periods?
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In reply to @koliver555
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
Fingers almost numb...
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kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
Finally caught up after being 6 minutes behind on
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kirk_humphreys
Feb 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
A4: Honestly, I think elementary schools are more willing to change while secondary schools are more traditional.
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rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
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Mic dropping statement, Adam -- Yes! This is a big isssue.
In reply to @CoachLesterBHS
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
could be. Do elementary and secondary educators have different mindset towards teaching to mastery?
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In reply to @donald_gately
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:36 PM EST
A4 There are many practices tied to traditional grading (ie eligibility) at the secondary level. It can seem difficult to shift.
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kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:36 PM EST
A4 Misconceptions about SBG and college admission plus fear and lack of intestinal fortitude.
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In reply to @mctownsley
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:36 PM EST
Check out this TWIST!
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AaronSBlackwel1
Feb 15 @ 9:34 PM EST
A3: It reiterates the importance of the learning. I believe students should not have the option to retest. It should be expected.
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EdCampBROOKLYN
Feb 15 @ 9:36 PM EST
Hello my love
@RoweRikW
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In reply to @RoweRikW
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
Welcome to tonight's INTENSE
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!
EdCampBROOKLYN
Feb 15 @ 9:32 PM EST
Jumping in late entry Evening folks!
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drangelapeery
Feb 15 @ 9:36 PM EST
A4: Reassessing everyone when you have 100+ Ss in secondary makes it a big challenge. It did 4 me as HS Eng teacher.
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mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:36 PM EST
@kirk_humphreys
could be. Do you feel elementary & secondary educators have a different mindset towards teaching to mastery?
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In reply to @kirk_humphreys
Dassel
Feb 15 @ 9:36 PM EST
A2
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none of the science or math homework impacted my grade in college. MY learning
#YES
BradColumbus
Feb 15 @ 9:36 PM EST
@rickwormeli2
@mctownsley
most prof don't even use standards to drive there teaching...the just teach content
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In reply to @rickwormeli2, @mctownsley
KatieWhite426
Feb 15 @ 9:36 PM EST
It can happen but we have to linger in pragmatics long enough to get at the root of the best kinds of learning
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In reply to @briandurgin
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
RT Q4 - Why are more elementary schools making the shift to SBG when compared to secondary schools?
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xakellis
Feb 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
Yup, it's the same thing in software. We work until it's done right. You just can't afford to release a half-baked product.
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drangelapeery
Feb 15 @ 9:31 PM EST
As author of 13 books, didn't submit a single 1 on time. And I still get to publish! Quality over deadline every time.
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In reply to @rggillespie
kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
YES YES YES>
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In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
Bhsteeler
Feb 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
A4: still the internal struggle for HS that % grades are critical for post secondary scholarships and admissions ๐ค
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TomSchimmer
Feb 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
A4: Elem = (1) more skill based, (2) more yes/no standards, & maybe (3) more developmentally sensitive. Don't avg reading levels
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mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
agree! I've experienced and observed many misconceptions about SBG at secondary.
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In reply to @kenoc7
KatieBudrow
Feb 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
A4 Was struggling with an answer to this question but this makes a lot of sense ...
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
A4 At the elementary level, grades are not the focus and are not high stakes (scholarships, etc.). It is an easier change.
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RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
Always willing to be a Change-Agent at the HS Level!
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kirk_humphreys
Feb 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
A4: Honestly, I think elementary schools are more willing to change while secondary schools are more traditional.
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kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
But they teach more subjects so this is a poor excuse.
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In reply to @donald_gately, @mctownsley
KC_SEASportsFan
Feb 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
@kenoc7
My hand is starting to cramp from taking notes!! ๐๐๐ญ๐๐ญ๐๐ญ
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In reply to @RoweRikW, @kenoc7
mbkkelsey
Feb 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
We required Ss to show evidence of study before theyโre allowed to reassess. But yeah, needs lots of time
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In reply to @drangelapeery
KatieWhite426
Feb 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
This is the key...from reassess to self-assess and independent growth and exploration
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In reply to @goformative
rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
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Some, not all, are there to support their research habit. Present company excluded, of course.
In reply to @BradColumbus, @mctownsley
debralcamp
Feb 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
@kirk_humphreys
For many reasons, # of sts per teacher and then the college process.
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In reply to @kirk_humphreys
teachshel
Feb 15 @ 9:38 PM EST
I believe it's b/c Ts don't know a different way. These convos need to happen in teacher prep.
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In reply to @CoachLesterBHS
EdCampBROOKLYN
Feb 15 @ 9:38 PM EST
This is all VERY interesting timeline reading. Secondary. SBL hmm
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RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:38 PM EST
Nce to see you in
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tonight, Mark!
Dassel
Feb 15 @ 9:36 PM EST
A2
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none of the science or math homework impacted my grade in college. MY learning
#YES
TedMartin16
Feb 15 @ 9:38 PM EST
So excited to be transitioning to
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at my jh. Any advice on doing this in Art, PE, and Music? Is it just like other classes?
xakellis
Feb 15 @ 9:38 PM EST
There's always time for another version. When version 21 looks like 19, then you stop as you've reached convergence
@drangelapeery
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In reply to @drangelapeery
CoachLesterBHS
Feb 15 @ 9:38 PM EST
You are 100% correct. I always use the framework of "I felt, I found, now I feel" to explain my transition to
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In reply to @teachshel
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
What are your thoughts on this grading shift at secondary level?
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In reply to @EdCampBROOKLYN
rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
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This is rallying call to school leadership!
In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
BradLatzke
Feb 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
A4 As Ss progress through school, we narrow acceptable demonstrations of learning to single status quo pathway --> GPA/SAT.
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RESP3CTtheGAME
Feb 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
A4 Ps need to know what elem Ss understand & can do, where to improve. Secondary ed w/o
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communicates growth is no longer important
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
The real world is not as unforgiving as some make it out to be...
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In reply to @teachshel
donald_gately
Feb 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
when u do the math it equals out
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In reply to @kenoc7, @mctownsley
kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
% in Canada, letter grades and gpa in the USA.
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In reply to @Bhsteeler
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
hey, Ted! Have you viewed
https://t.co/AQRKZQad3x
for some content-specific SBG examples?
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In reply to @TedMartin16
KatieWhite426
Feb 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
A4: I have puzzled over this and we can't seem to get past the need to rank and sort and "train" kids for real life's hard knocks
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RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
@Mwren13
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In reply to @Mwren13
TedMartin16
Feb 15 @ 9:38 PM EST
So excited to be transitioning to
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at my jh. Any advice on doing this in Art, PE, and Music? Is it just like other classes?
rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
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Ted, your subject is among the more natural fits to this. These departments usually embrace it first.
In reply to @TedMartin16
EdCampBROOKLYN
Feb 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
A3: Wait, are folks (Ts) actually giving Ss 'an option' to retest????
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#quehoror
In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
KarlBaresel
Feb 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
How do we change the culture of students only "working for the grade?" My least favorite question: "Is this going to be graded?"
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elSrKoeppen
Feb 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
Projects: Stop Assessing the Product and Start Assessing the Learning
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https://t.co/bUcboXRxF0
via
@elSrKoeppen
In reply to @elSrKoeppen
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
Not sure where to go for SBG resources? I am starting to compile a "one stop shop" here
https://t.co/T9jlNgjtiR
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kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
Do you also agree about fear and lack of intestinal fortitude, i.e., gutlessness?
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In reply to @mctownsley
koliver555
Feb 15 @ 9:41 PM EST
You are right. GPAs, UIL, short grading periods are real struggles until we start thinking differently. It may take time.
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In reply to @RoweRikW
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:41 PM EST
I concur. I do not believe enough school administrators have experience / knowledge of leading 2nd order change.
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In reply to @kenoc7
MsHLye
Feb 15 @ 9:41 PM EST
Best solution I have found so far. Stop grading.
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#AssessPeel
KarlBaresel
Feb 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
How do we change the culture of students only "working for the grade?" My least favorite question: "Is this going to be graded?"
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kirk_humphreys
Feb 15 @ 9:41 PM EST
I think so. I think those who believe in a growth mindset are more apt to do SBG and/or its ideas.
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In reply to @mctownsley
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:41 PM EST
When we make the learning relevant and meaningful, those questions tend to disappear.
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KarlBaresel
Feb 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
How do we change the culture of students only "working for the grade?" My least favorite question: "Is this going to be graded?"
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kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:41 PM EST
Both really weak excuses.
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In reply to @debralcamp, @kirk_humphreys
TedMartin16
Feb 15 @ 9:41 PM EST
Awesome! Thank you. I look forward to sharing these with my peers.
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In reply to @mctownsley
Bhsteeler
Feb 15 @ 9:41 PM EST
A4: rubric based assessments can be converted to traditional after the fact which can be a reasoned compromise to HS challenge ๐ค
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rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:41 PM EST
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Wrote an article about this that just came out. It's over at
https://t.co/ASxjdrryiz
, if interested, or e-mail me.
In reply to @KatieWhite426
kirk_humphreys
Feb 15 @ 9:42 PM EST
Completely agree!
#sblchat
In reply to @debralcamp
RESP3CTtheGAME
Feb 15 @ 9:42 PM EST
Check out
@brettdimmer
for middle school music model
#sblchat
In reply to @rickwormeli2, @TedMartin16, @brettdimmer
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:42 PM EST
Yes, this change needs depth of understanding and strong leadership.
#sblchat
In reply to @mctownsley, @kenoc7
TomSchimmer
Feb 15 @ 9:42 PM EST
I might
@kenoc7
also add 'easier to not' as well. Points, percentages, and averages are easier (not better of course).
@mctownsley
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7, @mctownsley
KatieWhite426
Feb 15 @ 9:43 PM EST
#3 is worth exploring more deeply.Do we expect unrealistic rates of learning in HS? Do we even consider it?
#sblchat
TomSchimmer
Feb 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
A4: Elem = (1) more skill based, (2) more yes/no standards, & maybe (3) more developmentally sensitive. Don't avg reading levels
#sblchat
EdCampBROOKLYN
Feb 15 @ 9:43 PM EST
This chat is informing my thoughts really Matt. I'm middle school and major shift and practice in SBL there.
#sblchat
In reply to @mctownsley
Math912Teacher
Feb 15 @ 9:43 PM EST
Hi
#sblchat
, Michelle HS T. Scrolling & Q2 caught my eye A2- We are required to have a certain # of non-achievement grades per quarter. Hmm
debralcamp
Feb 15 @ 9:43 PM EST
Tell me more and send me towards resources that make the bridge. I want to learn.
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7, @kirk_humphreys
teachshel
Feb 15 @ 9:43 PM EST
Agreed. I find that when Ts take time to consider alternatives & try to defend tradition, then begin to get it.
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman
Dassel
Feb 15 @ 9:43 PM EST
#sblchat
you can control what you can control
#yourclassroom
In reply to @kirk_humphreys
rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:43 PM EST
Just started following. Thanks, Brian!
#sblchat
In reply to @RESP3CTtheGAME, @TedMartin16, @brettdimmer
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:43 PM EST
what do you think about this requirement?
#sblchat
In reply to @Math912Teacher
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:44 PM EST
A5 The best way to prepare Ss for the future (further education, profession) is to ensure they learn. This is the priority w/SBG.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:44 PM EST
A5 - Our
#HSMath
Learners are learning to make
#Connections
with our Standards to build a solid base of understanding.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:44 PM EST
Hi Michelle! I remember us talking about that previously.
#sblchat
Math912Teacher
Feb 15 @ 9:43 PM EST
Hi
#sblchat
, Michelle HS T. Scrolling & Q2 caught my eye A2- We are required to have a certain # of non-achievement grades per quarter. Hmm
EdCampBROOKLYN
Feb 15 @ 9:44 PM EST
Wasn't aware that SBL hasn't taken strong hold in secondary. Seems very Left. Standards drive instruction.
#sblchat
In reply to @mctownsley
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:44 PM EST
what do you mean by 'left' ?
#sblchat
In reply to @EdCampBROOKLYN
EdCampBROOKLYN
Feb 15 @ 9:44 PM EST
Good sir.
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Feb 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
Not in my class
In reply to @EdCampBROOKLYN
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:45 PM EST
A5 - In HS, we're empowering our Learners to appreciate Learning through Feedback, Questions, and Reassessment. Ready to College!
#sblchat
kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:45 PM EST
What are โnon-achievement grades?โ
#sblchat
In reply to @Math912Teacher
xakellis
Feb 15 @ 9:45 PM EST
Yes.
#sblchat
kirk_humphreys
Feb 15 @ 9:41 PM EST
I think so. I think those who believe in a growth mindset are more apt to do SBG and/or its ideas.
#sblchat
In reply to @mctownsley
MikeSzczepanik
Feb 15 @ 9:45 PM EST
Standards may drive instruction but they still do not drive assessment unfortunately
#sblchat
In reply to @EdCampBROOKLYN, @mctownsley
MsHLye
Feb 15 @ 9:45 PM EST
A5 Instill student with a love of learning and a knack for collaboration and problem solving
#sblchat
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:45 PM EST
and yes, super majority of secondary schools are utilizing grades based upon points, HW completion, extra credit.
#sblchat
In reply to @EdCampBROOKLYN
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:45 PM EST
We're in favor of a focus on the learning without ANY requirement for the number of grades.
#sblchat
In reply to @mctownsley, @Math912Teacher
BradColumbus
Feb 15 @ 9:45 PM EST
True and not there fault. I have found that PD on the practice of teaching is not as valued at college level
#sblchat
rickwormeli2
Feb 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
#sblchat
Some, not all, are there to support their research habit. Present company excluded, of course.
In reply to @BradColumbus, @mctownsley
CoachLesterBHS
Feb 15 @ 9:45 PM EST
A5- Tell them that college might not use the same practices, but I want the Ss learn what they need to so they are ready
#sblchat
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:43 PM EST
Q5) How can high school teachers using SBG best prepare students for university coursework?
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:46 PM EST
A5 - Our HS Math Learners are learning to learn through building relationships for Collaboration & Communication for Feedback.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:46 PM EST
Our HS Math Learners are finding incredible success with Standards-Based Learning!
#MHSLearns
#sblchat
In reply to @EdCampBROOKLYN, @mctownsley
EdCampBROOKLYN
Feb 15 @ 9:46 PM EST
"Crazy" "irresponsible"
#sblchat
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:44 PM EST
what do you mean by 'left' ?
#sblchat
In reply to @EdCampBROOKLYN
kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:46 PM EST
โSeems very Left.โ What does that mean?
#sblchat
In reply to @EdCampBROOKLYN, @mctownsley
kirk_humphreys
Feb 15 @ 9:47 PM EST
A5: For me, the biggest impact SBG has made is to show that failure it not the end. It's the beginning to learn more and improve.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:47 PM EST
Thanks so much for joining us Rick!
#sblchat
In reply to @rickwormeli2, @mctownsley, @kenoc7, @RoweRikW
Bhsteeler
Feb 15 @ 9:47 PM EST
A5: if we can sustain curiosity, critical thinking and make individuals self actualized they are likely to succeed at next level
#sblchat
Math912Teacher
Feb 15 @ 9:47 PM EST
I think it can inflate grades of weaker Ss and lower grades of stronger Ss who don't need to (and don't) get it done.
#sblchat
In reply to @mctownsley
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:47 PM EST
It's always better when Rick is here!
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman, @rickwormeli2, @mctownsley, @kenoc7
teachshel
Feb 15 @ 9:47 PM EST
Requires intentional communication w/parents & other community members.
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW, @mctownsley, @Math912Teacher
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:48 PM EST
depends, if purpose is practice or not, I'd guess.
#sblchat
In reply to @dey5401
stephwilson78
Feb 15 @ 9:48 PM EST
A5- persevering through struggle and learning the material is best way to prepare for college coursework
#sblchat
kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:48 PM EST
And/or are assessment literate and are knowledgable about grading and reporting?
#sblchat
In reply to @JohnSchlender, @mctownsley
hoffmanteambret
Feb 15 @ 9:48 PM EST
YES!! No gaps in knowledge that traditional grade creates.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1 Standards based grading does not give students โan easy way outโ. It demands that they learn.
#sblchat
TomSchimmer
Feb 15 @ 9:48 PM EST
A5: Best 'prep' for tomorrow is 'success & confidence' today. Teach them that they're learners & they'll be 'prepped' for anything
#sblchat
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:48 PM EST
that's a heck of a 1-2 punch.
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7, @JohnSchlender
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:48 PM EST
Our
#GoodCallsHome
creates Intentional Communication with the Parents of our Learners!
#sblchat
teachshel
Feb 15 @ 9:47 PM EST
Requires intentional communication w/parents & other community members.
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW, @mctownsley, @Math912Teacher
Math912Teacher
Feb 15 @ 9:48 PM EST
homework, group work, some projects, etc. We call them process grades.
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7
mrsprebble84
Feb 15 @ 9:49 PM EST
A5: Same as trad grades. Do our best to help Ss learn as much as they can and to be good learners. SBL isn't new - it's evolved
#sblchat
KatieWhite426
Feb 15 @ 9:49 PM EST
A5: Teach them how to think, how to plan, how to question, how to research, how to push past the easy way out. Teach them they CAN
#sblchat
xakellis
Feb 15 @ 9:49 PM EST
Lots of folks will build SB assessments BEFORE they try to figure out instruction. Help you focus on the goal.
@MikeSzczepanik
#sblchat
In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:49 PM EST
Double-BAM!!
#sblchat
stephwilson78
Feb 15 @ 9:48 PM EST
A5- persevering through struggle and learning the material is best way to prepare for college coursework
#sblchat
kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:49 PM EST
That should necessarily ver happen because SBG isnโt just about getting it done or amount of evidence.
#sblchat
In reply to @Math912Teacher, @mctownsley
EdCampBROOKLYN
Feb 15 @ 9:50 PM EST
Michelle. Good evening friend.
#sblchat
Math912Teacher
Feb 15 @ 9:48 PM EST
homework, group work, some projects, etc. We call them process grades.
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7
MikeSzczepanik
Feb 15 @ 9:50 PM EST
A5- SBG gives me a diagnosis of the problem so I can provide treatment and improve my prognosis
#sblchat
Math912Teacher
Feb 15 @ 9:50 PM EST
We have a min number of achievement (tests & quizzes) grades each quarter too.
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW, @mctownsley
teachshel
Feb 15 @ 9:50 PM EST
A5: W/ focus on learning v. compliance Ss can hone work habits in a personalized way, whether time mgmt, HW, studying, etc
#sblchat
kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:50 PM EST
Are they separate from achievement grades?
#sblchat
In reply to @Math912Teacher
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:51 PM EST
I'm remembering. Our minimum to to make sure our Learners are Proficient in our Standards.
#sblchat
In reply to @Math912Teacher, @mctownsley
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:51 PM EST
A5) Helping HS teachers understand and apply the research behind SBG
https://t.co/5dNe0EgKFM
#sblchat
hoffmanteambret
Feb 15 @ 9:51 PM EST
Yes! Data for T to give feedback to S!
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Feb 15 @ 9:50 PM EST
A5- SBG gives me a diagnosis of the problem so I can provide treatment and improve my prognosis
#sblchat
kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:51 PM EST
I hope they are VERY SMALL numbers.
#sblchat
In reply to @Math912Teacher, @RoweRikW, @mctownsley
EdCampBROOKLYN
Feb 15 @ 9:51 PM EST
There is real thing called "non-achievement" grades???
#sayitisntso
#sblchat
Math912Teacher
Feb 15 @ 9:48 PM EST
homework, group work, some projects, etc. We call them process grades.
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:52 PM EST
Final (Q6) question coming up!
#sblchat
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:52 PM EST
Q6) What advice would you offer stakeholders who are unsure about SBG implications for higher education?
#sblchat
CoachLesterBHS
Feb 15 @ 9:52 PM EST
Great way to think about this. I know where my Ss are and what they need next.
#sblchat
In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
TomSchimmer
Feb 15 @ 9:52 PM EST
A5: Increased attention on proactively 'teaching' behavioral competence (not just penalizing the lack of) = greater prep too!
#sblchat
drangelapeery
Feb 15 @ 9:52 PM EST
Cool,
#sblchat
is trending.
Math912Teacher
Feb 15 @ 9:52 PM EST
yes, 80% of grade is achievement & 20% is process.
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:52 PM EST
Final question for tonight!
#sblchat
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:52 PM EST
Q6) What advice would you offer stakeholders who are unsure about SBG implications for higher education?
#sblchat
stephwilson78
Feb 15 @ 9:52 PM EST
Yes- makes MTSS much easier!
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Feb 15 @ 9:50 PM EST
A5- SBG gives me a diagnosis of the problem so I can provide treatment and improve my prognosis
#sblchat
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:52 PM EST
wow!
#sblchat
In reply to @drangelapeery
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:53 PM EST
A6 - With so much focus on SMART Goals, our Standards are our Goals in Learning that empower Learners to strive for more!
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:53 PM EST
A6 A standards based report will provide much more information about student proficiency than a single letter ever could.
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Feb 15 @ 9:53 PM EST
A6 Putting learning in the focus is always a great thing. Students will be able to show you all the cool stuff they can do!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:53 PM EST
After all, Angela, YOU are here!
#sblchat
drangelapeery
Feb 15 @ 9:52 PM EST
Cool,
#sblchat
is trending.
KatieWhite426
Feb 15 @ 9:53 PM EST
I wrote about this summative assessment conundrum
https://t.co/i5mJI0yAJV
#sblchat
In reply to @Math912Teacher, @RoweRikW, @mctownsley
CoachLesterBHS
Feb 15 @ 9:53 PM EST
A6- I want to send your Ss off to college knowing skills needed for success. SBG helps me and Ss see those skills clearly.
#sblchat
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:52 PM EST
Q6) What advice would you offer stakeholders who are unsure about SBG implications for higher education?
#sblchat
Math912Teacher
Feb 15 @ 9:53 PM EST
yep, Rik, we have talked about this! :)
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW, @mctownsley
RESP3CTtheGAME
Feb 15 @ 9:53 PM EST
Also a challenge for new admin to lead change to
#sblchat
practices. Face great resistance from Ts & Ps
In reply to @mctownsley, @kenoc7, @JohnSchlender
EdCampBROOKLYN
Feb 15 @ 9:53 PM EST
Agree Coach None of those components considers individual child/their individual "learning"
#sblchat
In reply to @CoachLesterBHS, @Math912Teacher, @kenoc7
drangelapeery
Feb 15 @ 9:53 PM EST
Wasn't it
@tguskey
who discussed pulling out behaviors, etc. from grades? Separating achievement from effort, etc.?
#sblchat
In reply to @EdCampBROOKLYN, @tguskey
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:54 PM EST
A6 Even if a HS report card is formatted traditionally, the letter grade is solely based on academic achievement. Less muddy!
#sblchat
Math912Teacher
Feb 15 @ 9:54 PM EST
hi friend! Miss you! We have achievement & process.
#sblchat
In reply to @EdCampBROOKLYN
hoffmanteambret
Feb 15 @ 9:54 PM EST
SBG is about KNOWING, not seat time! Too many S pass along based on chronological attendance and NOT on knowledge or proficiency.
#sblchat
kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:54 PM EST
@mctownsley
Read evidence that higher ed institutions support SBG & that lots of change is happening in HE, e.g., MIT & Wellesley.
#sblchat
In reply to @mctownsley
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:54 PM EST
I believe this article should be a must read for ed. leaders!
https://t.co/yrQzUylZ92
#sblchat
In reply to @RESP3CTtheGAME, @kenoc7, @JohnSchlender
mrsprebble84
Feb 15 @ 9:54 PM EST
A6: Ask questions and engage us in conversation - let's all work together.
#sblchat
TomSchimmer
Feb 15 @ 9:54 PM EST
A6: All agree that student success now/beyond is the goal. Expectations high, accountability high, & grades more accurate
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:54 PM EST
Product, Process, and Progress are separated - this gives the whole picture of the learner.
#sblchat
In reply to @drangelapeery, @EdCampBROOKLYN, @tguskey
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:55 PM EST
RT Q6 - What advice would you offer stakeholders who are unsure about SBG implications for higher education?
#sblchat
Math912Teacher
Feb 15 @ 9:55 PM EST
I will save this & check it out, Katie, thank you!
#sblchat
In reply to @KatieWhite426, @RoweRikW, @mctownsley
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:55 PM EST
agree. Where higher education is trending = often lost in the conversation behind "what i experienced in college."
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7
kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:55 PM EST
Not if a good process is used - start with purpose of grades.
#sblchat
In reply to @RESP3CTtheGAME, @mctownsley, @JohnSchlender
EdCampBROOKLYN
Feb 15 @ 9:55 PM EST
Because of You and your dedication to children.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:46 PM EST
Our HS Math Learners are finding incredible success with Standards-Based Learning!
#MHSLearns
#sblchat
In reply to @EdCampBROOKLYN, @mctownsley
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:56 PM EST
Thank
@mctownsley
for his wisdom in
#sblchat
tonight as HS best prepares Learners for College with Standards-Based Learning.
@garnet_hillman
In reply to @mctownsley, @garnet_hillman
MsHLye
Feb 15 @ 9:56 PM EST
A6 I would ask a question: "Should we do something because someone else does it, or should we do it b/c it is right for Ss?"
#sblchat
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:52 PM EST
Q6) What advice would you offer stakeholders who are unsure about SBG implications for higher education?
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Feb 15 @ 9:56 PM EST
A6: If meeting standards are required to earn class credit, students are capable to meet the demands of higher ed.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:56 PM EST
Our Learners ARE our Future!
#sblchat
EdCampBROOKLYN
Feb 15 @ 9:55 PM EST
Because of You and your dedication to children.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:46 PM EST
Our HS Math Learners are finding incredible success with Standards-Based Learning!
#MHSLearns
#sblchat
In reply to @EdCampBROOKLYN, @mctownsley
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:56 PM EST
So appreciative of
@mctownsley
for leading a wonderful discussion this week!
#sblchat
In reply to @mctownsley
kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:56 PM EST
YES, many thanks and thanks to
@RoweRikW
and
@garnet_hillman
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW, @garnet_hillman
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:56 PM EST
Thank
@mctownsley
for his wisdom in
#sblchat
tonight as HS best prepares Learners for College with Standards-Based Learning.
@garnet_hillman
In reply to @mctownsley, @garnet_hillman
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
Thrilled for tonight's opportunity to team up with
@mctownsley
,
@garnet_hillman
and our
#sblchat
Crew for Learners than Learn with SBG!!
In reply to @mctownsley, @garnet_hillman
RESP3CTtheGAME
Feb 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
Exactly! But that speaks to previously mentioned Ad lack of education/understanding of
#sblchat
practices
In reply to @kenoc7, @mctownsley, @JohnSchlender
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
A6) I'd point stakeholders to research supporting SBG.
https://t.co/5dNe0EgKFM
&
https://t.co/iV5Yw6QZeB
#sblchat
teachshel
Feb 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
A6: Consider other areas of ed that have evolve over time, with new knowledge, and backed by research. Why not this?
#sblchat
Math912Teacher
Feb 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
I'm going to see
@tguskey
next month!!
#sblchat
In reply to @tguskey
drangelapeery
Feb 15 @ 9:53 PM EST
Wasn't it
@tguskey
who discussed pulling out behaviors, etc. from grades? Separating achievement from effort, etc.?
#sblchat
In reply to @EdCampBROOKLYN, @tguskey
MrDataGuy
Feb 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
Hot off the presses, the Qs for next weeks
#ATAssess
chat,
@MandyStalets
at the helm. Join us.
#sblchat
@SolutionTree
TomSchimmer
Feb 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
A6: Shift the grading mindset first, esp at secondary. Work 'with' them...maybe keep A-F but shift how determined & meaning.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Feb 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
And a huge thanks to
@RoweRikW
and all of the participants tonight. See you all next week!
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
hoffmanteambret
Feb 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
SBG allows thorough interventions. know exact what S needs. Trad G dosnet give me same info, did S fail knowledge or compliance?
#sblchat
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
thank you again for inviting me.
@RoweRikW
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman, @RoweRikW
CoachLesterBHS
Feb 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
Great work tonight
#sblchat
crew. Always a fun time with you all. Best moderators around
@garnet_hillman
@RoweRikW
@mctownsley
In reply to @garnet_hillman, @RoweRikW, @mctownsley
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
Ken, we had a POWER-ful Crew in
#sblchat
Tonight!
@garnet_hillman
@mctownsley
In reply to @garnet_hillman, @mctownsley
kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:56 PM EST
YES, many thanks and thanks to
@RoweRikW
and
@garnet_hillman
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW, @garnet_hillman
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:56 PM EST
Thank
@mctownsley
for his wisdom in
#sblchat
tonight as HS best prepares Learners for College with Standards-Based Learning.
@garnet_hillman
In reply to @mctownsley, @garnet_hillman
xakellis
Feb 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
Yes, nice chat tonight. Thanks
@mctownsley
#sblchat
In reply to @mctownsley
Math912Teacher
Feb 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
Interested in answers to this...
#sblchat
In reply to @mctownsley
BradLatzke
Feb 15 @ 9:58 PM EST
Thx
@RoweRikW
@garnet_hillman
@mctownsley
for a fast paced hour of
#sblchat
!
In reply to @RoweRikW, @garnet_hillman, @mctownsley
teachshel
Feb 15 @ 9:58 PM EST
Thanks! Life has kept me away the past few weeks. Glad to be back in the conversation.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:58 PM EST
Coach, we always appreciate it when You join our
#sblchat
Crew!
CoachLesterBHS
Feb 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
Great work tonight
#sblchat
crew. Always a fun time with you all. Best moderators around
@garnet_hillman
@RoweRikW
@mctownsley
In reply to @garnet_hillman, @RoweRikW, @mctownsley
EdCampBROOKLYN
Feb 15 @ 9:58 PM EST
#sblchat
friends please join us 4nxt
#edcampbrooklyn
Sat 4/22 Meetup, share, learn +
#brooklyn
in Spring ๐บ
https://t.co/eLcXaIOTaA
RT
#pd
mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:58 PM EST
cool! Check out
#sblchat
feed for the group's responses. Me? I'd start w/sharing SBG research
https://t.co/5dNe0EgKFM
In reply to @Math912Teacher
donald_gately
Feb 15 @ 9:58 PM EST
THANKS for a great chat everybody!
#sblchat
@BradLatzke
@RoweRikW
@garnet_hillman
@mctownsley
In reply to @BradLatzke, @RoweRikW, @garnet_hillman, @mctownsley
TomSchimmer
Feb 15 @ 9:58 PM EST
Very cool
@DaveWheeler11
As I always say, if you want it, teach it! Pointing out/penalizing deficits is not teaching.
#sblchat
In reply to @DaveWheeler11
BradLatzke
Feb 15 @ 9:58 PM EST
A6 The trailblazing has been done. No excuses for schools not making the grading shift. Not diplomatic, but true IMHO.
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KatieBudrow
Feb 15 @ 9:59 PM EST
Thanks for another great one
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! Huge thanks to
@mctownsley
,
@RoweRikW
, and
@garnet_hillman
!
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RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:59 PM EST
Brad, as always, we thank you for your dedication to our Learners and our Learning!
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BradLatzke
Feb 15 @ 9:58 PM EST
Thx
@RoweRikW
@garnet_hillman
@mctownsley
for a fast paced hour of
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!
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kenoc7
Feb 15 @ 9:59 PM EST
This is critical. Great explanations of this in
@TomSchimmer
book โGrading for the Inside Out.โ
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TomSchimmer
Feb 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
A6: Shift the grading mindset first, esp at secondary. Work 'with' them...maybe keep A-F but shift how determined & meaning.
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Math912Teacher
Feb 15 @ 9:59 PM EST
Thanks Matt, will do!
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mctownsley
Feb 15 @ 9:58 PM EST
cool! Check out
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feed for the group's responses. Me? I'd start w/sharing SBG research
https://t.co/5dNe0EgKFM
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RoweRikW
Feb 15 @ 9:59 PM EST
Thank You, Donald!
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donald_gately
Feb 15 @ 9:58 PM EST
THANKS for a great chat everybody!
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