#badgechat Archive

#BadgeChat was founded in December, 2014 by a group of educators who are passionate about credentialing learning and achieving. While there are thousands of us around the globe issuing badges to learners, there was not yet a regular twitter chat for those of us in the K-12 space to gather for learning and sharing about badging. After reaching out to leaders in the field (like the good folks at Mozilla and The Badge Alliance) for their thoughts, #BadgeChat was born.

Monday September 10, 2018
6:30 PM EDT

  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:30 PM EDT
    Welcome to #BadgeChat!!!! Excited to chat SAMR with everyone today. Let's get started by introducing yourself and why you're into this stuff:)
  • LesVoigt Sep 10 @ 6:31 PM EDT
    Hello everyone! Lesley Voigt - Digital Credentials Institute. Excited to be discussing SAMR tonight! Perfect alignment with digital credentials! #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:31 PM EDT
    Hola Teresa! Thanks for being here. Always appreciate your fresh takes! #badgechat
    In reply to @teresagross625
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:32 PM EDT
    Welcome Lesley! For folks who don't know, she's part of the new DCI that's here to serve YOU. Check them out! #badgechat
    In reply to @LesVoigt
  • donpresant Sep 10 @ 6:32 PM EDT
    Don in Canada, waiting for the smoke to clear - from wildfires and trade talks. Host of @CanCredCA, Canada's Open Badges solution. Northern badge nerd. #BadgeChat is my guilty pleasure.
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:33 PM EDT
    @donpresant is my spirit animal #badgechat
    • donpresant Sep 10 @ 6:32 PM EDT
      Don in Canada, waiting for the smoke to clear - from wildfires and trade talks. Host of @CanCredCA, Canada's Open Badges solution. Northern badge nerd. #BadgeChat is my guilty pleasure.
  • LesVoigt Sep 10 @ 6:33 PM EDT
    Thank you Noah! Yes, definitely here to help. Please reach out of you're new or old to the badging game and want to know what's happening, or just want to chat about ideas. #badgechat
    In reply to @SenorG
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:34 PM EDT
    Love that we already have several folks here to kick things off. Others are welcome to jump in anytime! First question coming up in one minute... #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:34 PM EDT
    Is there a url we're ok to share? #badgechat
    In reply to @LesVoigt
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:35 PM EDT
    Q1: What are examples of badging that fit the SUBSTITUTION criteria? What considerations does this imply? #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:36 PM EDT
    A1: Certificates of completion/attendance being made avail as Digital Badges are examples of Substitution. I think this gets at access/ownership issues as earners have credential and can easily get to them anytime/anywhere #badgechat
  • LesVoigt Sep 10 @ 6:36 PM EDT
    Currently https://t.co/CWDgVjHf4t, our website should be live shortly! #badgechat
    In reply to @SenorG
  • supervxn Sep 10 @ 6:36 PM EDT
    Hi everybody! I'm Noa, working for the Innovative Tech Unit in the Israeli Ministry of Education. It's where the magic happens! :-) #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:37 PM EDT
    I think of someone w a Red Cross CPR/First Aid card in their wallet. Good SUBSTITUTION could be that it's also issued as a digital badge credential. Earner doesn't have to worry about losing it:) #badgechat
  • donpresant Sep 10 @ 6:37 PM EDT
    A1 Badges as substitutes for paper certificates. Badges as course stickers. #BadgeChat
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:38 PM EDT
    Is that a new job this year, Noa? If so, congrats! #badgechat
    In reply to @supervxn
  • javierleiva Sep 10 @ 6:38 PM EDT
    Hi from Catalonia! #badgechat
    In reply to @SenorG
  • LesVoigt Sep 10 @ 6:38 PM EDT
    A1 um I received a Badge from Target for walking down the aisle! #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:39 PM EDT
    Great example with the course stickers! Also the paper certs...Teachers thinking about re-licensure could find this form of substitution extremely valuable (as opposed to having to keep track of all that paper in binders) #badgechat
    In reply to @donpresant
  • donpresant Sep 10 @ 6:39 PM EDT
    Hmm, I see that more as augmentation - increasing the functionality, no? #BadgeChat
    In reply to @SenorG
  • LesVoigt Sep 10 @ 6:39 PM EDT
    A1 a good substitution would be CPR or OSHA certifications. Easily accessible don't have to worry about losing the actual cards. #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:39 PM EDT
    Welcome Javier! We are now officially at FOUR countries in the chat tonight!!!!! #badgechat
    In reply to @javierleiva
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:40 PM EDT
    I might have gotten excited:) #badgechat
    In reply to @donpresant
  • LesVoigt Sep 10 @ 6:40 PM EDT
    Sorry, I just saw this -apparently we're on the same wavelength...scary! #badgechat
    In reply to @SenorG
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:40 PM EDT
    Second question coming in hot... #badgechat
  • jcolley8 Sep 10 @ 6:40 PM EDT
    A1: it’s a gold star. A new way of signifying that one’s doing “A work” while still working within the confines of more traditional grading frameworks. Visually it’s just cooler and more engaging in terms of how it looks but assessment frameworks haven’t changed #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:40 PM EDT
    Q2: What are examples of badging that fit the AUGMENTATION criteria? What considerations does this imply? #badgechat
  • budtheteacher Sep 10 @ 6:41 PM EDT
    So. But. Has anyone ever in the history of ever been required to show their Red Cross first aid card? The card is the after party. #badgechat
    In reply to @SenorG
  • teresagross625 Sep 10 @ 6:41 PM EDT
    A1: I would love to get badges for professional development. Workshops, conferences, etc. #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:42 PM EDT
    YESSSS. Bud Hunt in the house everybody. Bud was actually a drop-in on the 2nd ever #BadgeChat, offering some much-needed pushback. Great to have you here Bud!
    In reply to @budtheteacher
  • LesVoigt Sep 10 @ 6:42 PM EDT
    A2: Continuing Education/Workforce Devl course completion vs. just a Satisfactory/Unsatisfactory. Badge allows employers, etc... to see what was actually learned/assessed within the course. #badgechat
  • donpresant Sep 10 @ 6:42 PM EDT
    A2 Badges as smart virtual certificates with linked data, authentication and evidence. #BadgeChat
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:43 PM EDT
    And to answer your question, when I got hired to be a tour guide for a student travel company, I was required to not only be certified but also provide proof that my cert was current. #badgechat
    In reply to @budtheteacher
  • LesVoigt Sep 10 @ 6:43 PM EDT
    My 11 yr old daughter was asked to show her CPR/First Aid card when babysitting. #badgechat
    In reply to @SenorG, @budtheteacher
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:43 PM EDT
    Don and Lesley might be getting ahead of us and into MODIFICATION... #badgechat
    • donpresant Sep 10 @ 6:42 PM EDT
      A2 Badges as smart virtual certificates with linked data, authentication and evidence. #BadgeChat
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:44 PM EDT
    A2: The “Badge Backpack” style tools offer augmentation in that earners can easily store credentials, and curate and share them for different audiences. This has implications for learners owning their learning. #badgechat
  • jcolley8 Sep 10 @ 6:44 PM EDT
    A2: from a classroom teacher standpoint, badges allow me atomize what I’m assessing and make it more about a specific skill that needs work as opposed to an assessment marker that is accounting for a cluster of skills where Ss receives an abstract summary/average #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:45 PM EDT
    Seems like stuff people are most excited to discuss are in the MODIFICATION and REDEFINITION realms so going to push ahead to Q3 and Q4... #badgechat
  • calimorrison Sep 10 @ 6:45 PM EDT
    What KSA went with that? #BadgeChat
    In reply to @LesVoigt
  • javierleiva Sep 10 @ 6:45 PM EDT
    A2: badges not only allow to prove an acquired skill or knowledge, but also to link to digital proof of its acquisition #badgechat
    In reply to @SenorG
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:45 PM EDT
    Lovelovelove everything about this. Can you give an example for anyone who might be nodding their head but also scratching it at the same time? #badgechat
    In reply to @jcolley8
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:46 PM EDT
    Q3: What are examples of badging that fit the MODIFICATION criteria? What considerations does this imply? #badgechat
  • teresagross625 Sep 10 @ 6:46 PM EDT
    It's almost like a PD portfolio! I like it! #badgechat
    In reply to @SenorG
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:46 PM EDT
    Excuse my ignorance...What's a KSA? #badgechat
    In reply to @calimorrison, @LesVoigt
  • calimorrison Sep 10 @ 6:46 PM EDT
    #BadgeChat Just caught this in my feed via @senorG I'm Cali live in Montana, Work in West Virginia for @AmericanMilU @AmericanPublicU I was just going to lurk but then had to open my virtual voice and thought I'd intro myself!
  • donpresant Sep 10 @ 6:46 PM EDT
    I've got some REAL modifications waiting in the wings... #BadgeChat
    In reply to @SenorG
  • LesVoigt Sep 10 @ 6:47 PM EDT
    Can you elaborate a bit? #badgechat
    In reply to @calimorrison
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:47 PM EDT
    ROAR!!!! #badgechat
  • calimorrison Sep 10 @ 6:47 PM EDT
    Knowledge Skill or Ability #badgechat I'm a huge believe there should be evidence of knowledge skills or abilities tied to badges or digital credentials.
    In reply to @SenorG, @LesVoigt
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:47 PM EDT
    A3: For me, baking Evidence into Badges is key to Modification....a credential is transformed into a portfolio of sorts. One big consideration this addresses is TRUST. Others can validate that the earner has met the Badge’s criteria #badgechat
  • javierleiva Sep 10 @ 6:48 PM EDT
    That's great. Also, you can create a badge that is only given after all the microbadges have been acquired. #badgechat
    In reply to @SenorG, @jcolley8
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:48 PM EDT
    You said this as I was typing my A3:) #badgechat
    In reply to @teresagross625
  • calimorrison Sep 10 @ 6:48 PM EDT
    #Badgechat even badges in games, they should show you've achieved something, leveled up. Perhaps you entered a new brandspace in Target :)
    In reply to @SenorG, @LesVoigt
  • donpresant Sep 10 @ 6:48 PM EDT
    A3 Badges as authentic stories of learning and achievement. Badges as signposts & gates to new development paths. Badges as learning contracts. #BadgeChat
  • LesVoigt Sep 10 @ 6:48 PM EDT
    I believe @calimorrison is talking about Knowledge, Skills, Abilities - but I need a little more to answer this correctly. #badgechat
    In reply to @SenorG, @calimorrison, @calimorrison
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:49 PM EDT
    Agree! Evidence can address the TRUST issue with current tools like transcripts/certificates...how do we know you *actually* know or can do what the transcript says? #badgechat
    • calimorrison Sep 10 @ 6:47 PM EDT
      Knowledge Skill or Ability #badgechat I'm a huge believe there should be evidence of knowledge skills or abilities tied to badges or digital credentials.
      In reply to @SenorG, @LesVoigt
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:49 PM EDT
    Level Up!!! #badgechat
    • javierleiva Sep 10 @ 6:48 PM EDT
      That's great. Also, you can create a badge that is only given after all the microbadges have been acquired. #badgechat
      In reply to @SenorG, @jcolley8
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:50 PM EDT
    4th question coming up...let's think BIG! #badgechat
  • jcolley8 Sep 10 @ 6:50 PM EDT
    Badges help me track more specifically that a S is doing well with crafting a Thesis statement per se but they haven’t earned a badge of mastering research or providing evidence. Instead of an average grade on a paper that clusters all of this; I can be specific #badgechat
    In reply to @SenorG
  • calimorrison Sep 10 @ 6:50 PM EDT
    #BadgeChat Exactly and pairing badges/digicred with something like @PortfoliumHQ to house the actual artifacts, in addition to the metadata is even more powerful.
    In reply to @SenorG, @PortfoliumHQ
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:50 PM EDT
    Q4: What are examples of badging that fit the REDEFINITION criteria? What considerations does this imply? #badgechat
  • LesVoigt Sep 10 @ 6:50 PM EDT
    I believe you're referring to my Continuing Education comment. We aligned assessments with our digital badges. Those earning the digital badge must pass the assessment(s) at a specific level. We are developing a taxonomy around KSA badges! #badgechat
    In reply to @calimorrison, @SenorG
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:51 PM EDT
    A4: Redefinition appears w credentials that fit into expanded ecosystems w various value propositions. For ex, Badges expressly inteded to be shared with employers offering opportunities. Or degreed learning pathways.. #badgechat
  • capt_info Sep 10 @ 6:51 PM EDT
    Just joining #badgechat. I'm Justin from Montana (recently moved).
  • capt_info Sep 10 @ 6:51 PM EDT
    A3: How about learners documenting their own learning? #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:52 PM EDT
    Great example here! Love how badge communicates what student *can do* at granular level AND provides lever for goal setting and progress monitoring #badgechat
    • jcolley8 Sep 10 @ 6:50 PM EDT
      Badges help me track more specifically that a S is doing well with crafting a Thesis statement per se but they haven’t earned a badge of mastering research or providing evidence. Instead of an average grade on a paper that clusters all of this; I can be specific #badgechat
      In reply to @SenorG
  • LesVoigt Sep 10 @ 6:52 PM EDT
    We currently call these "master" badges. #badgechat
    In reply to @javierleiva, @SenorG, @jcolley8
  • calimorrison Sep 10 @ 6:52 PM EDT
    I was responding to this tweet :) But I love that you're developing a taxonomy around KSA badges! #Badgechat
    In reply to @LesVoigt, @SenorG
  • jcolley8 Sep 10 @ 6:52 PM EDT
    A3: Badges can help me free up Ss to take truly more personalized paths in terms of pace, sequencing, and ultimately focus. Divergent and differentiated inquiry become possible #BadgeChat
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:53 PM EDT
    YESYESYES 1. Makes Learning visible 2. Gives Agency/Ownership to the Learners #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:54 PM EDT
    Welcome Justin! Great to have so much Montana representation tonight! #badgechat
    In reply to @capt_info
  • javierleiva Sep 10 @ 6:54 PM EDT
    I guess you have to trust who has given the badge. That would take us to talk about reputation... and I ask: could reputation be also measured with badges? 😉 #badgechat
    In reply to @SenorG
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:54 PM EDT
    You can't just tease us like that and not share something Don! #badgechat
    In reply to @donpresant
  • calimorrison Sep 10 @ 6:55 PM EDT
    #Badgechat I have to disagree here -- assessment frameworks have changed to be more inclusive and provide deeper metadata in the badges and credentials awarded -- or at least they should have. It's not just about achievement it's about transparency.
    In reply to @jcolley8
  • donpresant Sep 10 @ 6:55 PM EDT
    A4 Badges as multilateral instruments of recognition and trust: issuer<->earner. Badges as *ongoing* stories of learning and achievement, building authenticity over time, with enhancement and endorsement. (Life of the badge AFTER issuing) #BadgeChat
  • LesVoigt Sep 10 @ 6:55 PM EDT
    A3 Badges allowing S to market themselves in a way they previously couldn't or didn't know how to express #badgechat
  • jcolley8 Sep 10 @ 6:55 PM EDT
    A4: grades go out the window. A true digital, mastery transcript becomes possible to envision. Unfortunately I still have to translate my Ss’ accomplishments to a traditional grade signifier, but I’d love to be there #nogrades #BadgeChat
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:56 PM EDT
    This is a huge question, not just in badging circles but for education everywhere: What is reputation of the validator of learning and how do we know if we trust them? #badgechat
    • javierleiva Sep 10 @ 6:54 PM EDT
      I guess you have to trust who has given the badge. That would take us to talk about reputation... and I ask: could reputation be also measured with badges? 😉 #badgechat
      In reply to @SenorG
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:57 PM EDT
    What @donpresant said: #badgechat
    • donpresant Sep 10 @ 6:55 PM EDT
      A4 Badges as multilateral instruments of recognition and trust: issuer<->earner. Badges as *ongoing* stories of learning and achievement, building authenticity over time, with enhancement and endorsement. (Life of the badge AFTER issuing) #BadgeChat
  • calimorrison Sep 10 @ 6:57 PM EDT
    #Badgechat Yes! It's one of the key principles of digital badging - portability. The learner owns their credentials rather than them living behind a walled garden of some institution.
    In reply to @SenorG
  • teresagross625 Sep 10 @ 6:57 PM EDT
    Thanks everyone. Always love learning with you! Have a wonderful night and week! #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:58 PM EDT
    Totally! This is one thing we're after in @aurorak12 with digital badge credentials: empowering students with storytelling devices that communicate a deeper, richer narrative of who they are as learners and achievers https://t.co/6ZwuFdH2Be #badgechat
    • LesVoigt Sep 10 @ 6:55 PM EDT
      A3 Badges allowing S to market themselves in a way they previously couldn't or didn't know how to express #badgechat
  • capt_info Sep 10 @ 6:58 PM EDT
    A4: Open badges might enable higher ed institutions to formally recognize informal learning that happens outside its hallowed halls. #badgechat
  • calimorrison Sep 10 @ 6:58 PM EDT
    Ahhhh. gotcha. It's true that some badge implementations have taken this approach and I thought you were advocating for that - my bad :) #badgechat
    In reply to @jcolley8
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:58 PM EDT
    BAM! #badgechat
    • capt_info Sep 10 @ 6:58 PM EDT
      A4: Open badges might enable higher ed institutions to formally recognize informal learning that happens outside its hallowed halls. #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:59 PM EDT
    Quick outro: what is a takeaway from this week's chat? #badgechat
  • javierleiva Sep 10 @ 6:59 PM EDT
    I will definitely take a look at your project. Thanks for sharing it! #badgechat
    In reply to @SenorG, @aurorak12
  • LesVoigt Sep 10 @ 7:00 PM EDT
    We are doing our best to make inroads with this @digitalcred #badgechat
    In reply to @capt_info, @digitalcred
  • donpresant Sep 10 @ 7:01 PM EDT
    A5 Noah does good #BadgeChat, which is a great mental workout. Multiple frameworks can be a fun and, gosh, useful way to road test and integrate your thinking. #FeeltheSTEAM
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 7:01 PM EDT
    Takeaway: While many an edu approach SAMR as aspirational hierarchy, there are positive instances of all four (Substitution, Augmentation, Modification, Redefinition) in the world of digital badge credentials #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 7:01 PM EDT
    a su orden:) #badgechat
    In reply to @javierleiva, @aurorak12
  • calimorrison Sep 10 @ 7:01 PM EDT
    Hey fellow Montanan! Welcome to the state and #badgechat I'm up near Bozeman!
    In reply to @SenorG, @capt_info
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 7:02 PM EDT
    Thanks Don! And everyone playing in this sandbox is of course welcome to play with the Open Recognition Alliance on Wednesday. Check @donpresant's timeline for details #badgechat
    • donpresant Sep 10 @ 7:01 PM EDT
      A5 Noah does good #BadgeChat, which is a great mental workout. Multiple frameworks can be a fun and, gosh, useful way to road test and integrate your thinking. #FeeltheSTEAM
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 7:03 PM EDT
    Thank you to all of our new and returning chatters, the regulars and to the lurkers, we love ya and value your own form of active engagement! Have a badge-worthy week everybody! #badgechat
  • calimorrison Sep 10 @ 7:06 PM EDT
    A4 #Badgechat For me the Redefinition is baked into the portability -- I own my credentials, they're digital so unless the entire internet goes down, they're out there somewhere retrievable. If my school where I have a paper diploma does, it's just gone.
  • calimorrison Sep 10 @ 7:08 PM EDT
    Part2 A4 #badgechat This is amazing implications for refugees. For victims of all kinds of violence. It allows freedom in starting over but still being able to demonstrate those KSAs.
    • calimorrison Sep 10 @ 7:06 PM EDT
      A4 #Badgechat For me the Redefinition is baked into the portability -- I own my credentials, they're digital so unless the entire internet goes down, they're out there somewhere retrievable. If my school where I have a paper diploma does, it's just gone.
  • jcolley8 Sep 10 @ 7:09 PM EDT
    Thank you @SenorG! This was my first #badgechat. Enjoyed it thoroughly
  • calimorrison Sep 10 @ 7:11 PM EDT
    #Badgechat leading to the next redefinition - credentials on the blockchain. Big issue is there's no way to store evidence/artifacts on any of the current blockchain implementations right now... Anyone wanna solve that problem?!?!?!?
    • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 6:57 PM EDT
      What @donpresant said: #badgechat
      • donpresant Sep 10 @ 6:55 PM EDT
        A4 Badges as multilateral instruments of recognition and trust: issuer<->earner. Badges as *ongoing* stories of learning and achievement, building authenticity over time, with enhancement and endorsement. (Life of the badge AFTER issuing) #BadgeChat
  • javierleiva Sep 10 @ 7:12 PM EDT
    Thank you, and good night (1:11AM in Barcelona)! 😴 #badgechat
    In reply to @SenorG
  • calimorrison Sep 10 @ 7:13 PM EDT
    #BadgeChat #Outro I found a new community to interact with! I love building new networks around emerging topics. If you're also interested in Digital and information literacy join us tomorrow at 4ET for #DLNChat https://t.co/PfmKyOx6b0
    In reply to @SenorG
  • SenorG - Moderator Sep 10 @ 7:27 PM EDT
    #badgechat
    • troymarkowitz Sep 10 @ 6:55 PM EDT
      Evidence does help w/the trust issue for sure. For the student’s benefit, evidence also helps learners articulate the value of attainment and tell a story, which is something employers need as well.
      In reply to @SenorG