#425chat Archive

This is a chat for football coaches to discuss the 4-2-5 defense on Thursday at 8PM CT

Thursday March 8, 2018
9:00 PM EST

  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Be sure to use the #425chat in EVERY post so it doesn’t get lost in the twitterverse
  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Grow your network by following your peers #425chat
  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:02 PM EST
    This is our schedule for tonight. Questions will be posted at these times. Q1 at 8:10. Q2 at 8:21. Q3 at 8:30. Q4 at 8:37. Q5 at 8:45. And Q6 at 8:52. #425chat
  • thomps_03 Mar 8 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Ryan Thompson HC/DC Ashland-Greenwood HS Ashland, NE #425chat
  • KidCoolBreeze49 Mar 8 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Ready for split field coverage tonight #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • Coachbrown16 Mar 8 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Anthony Brown DC Hillsboro High School Nashville, TN #425chat
  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Be sure to check in with #425chat be sure to put your name, School, position coached, and state!
  • coachwithgloves Mar 8 @ 9:06 PM EST
    #425chat Coach Herrmann, D-Line coach, Grant County HS, KY, Crittenden.
  • CoachSund Mar 8 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Nate Sund Fmr HC In SW Florida #425chat
  • CoachSelfridge Mar 8 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Casey Selfridge - HC - Greenhill. Addison, TX #425chat
  • CoachZackMcGee Mar 8 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Zack McGee DC/DB’s Nease High School Jacksonville, FL #425chat
  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Turnout is a little down but we are going to #GetBetter regardless! #425chat
  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Q1 coming up in a minute! #425chat
  • CoachDiG Mar 8 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Vin DiGaetano @Wagner_Football #425chat Defensive Assistant
  • CoachSelfridge Mar 8 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Really I am just here to like whatever @The_Coach_A says. #425chat
  • BSimmons25 Mar 8 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Brandon Simmons STC/QBC via Millbrook HS Raleigh, NC I might be one of the few O coaches talking defense tonight lol but it’s all good! #425chat
  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Q1: For those that run SFC, why do you think it gives you an advantage? For those that don’t run SFC, why don’t you? #425chat
  • coachsmitty_43 Mar 8 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Wes Smith / DC/Safeties / Musselman HS / Inwood, WV #425chat
  • coach_thomas8 Mar 8 @ 9:11 PM EST
    DB’s AC Flora Columbia, SC #425chat
  • CoachSlade_Cal Mar 8 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Slade Calhoun DC Memphis, TN #425Chat
  • Mr_Stadem Mar 8 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Chad Stadem, HC, Sioux Falls Washington #425chat
  • teshda Mar 8 @ 9:13 PM EST
    I think running split field coverage gives the defense the advantage because you can disguise coverages more and keep high school qbs off balance. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1: I run it because it is simple for the kids on defense yet difficult to get a beat on for the offense #425chat
  • BSimmons25 Mar 8 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1) in years past, I ran it to guard post/deep post. It also gives you number in the run game. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • CoachDiG Mar 8 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1: helps to match up support and leverage in best spot. Can run vs up tempo offense with some one word calls #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • DBsCoachWhit Mar 8 @ 9:14 PM EST
    DBs at Palo Duro HS in Amarillo, TX #425chat
  • JerodBrown_ Mar 8 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1: A1: Will be installing 425 for first time this upcoming season. I love the idea of SFC being able to identify needs as they occur & adjust with ease. Give kids simple rules to follow & empower them to be on-field decision makers. #425chat
  • CoachAhmadPHS Mar 8 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Khalil Ahmad OC Passaic High School Passaic, NJ #425chat
  • CODY_GARDNER Mar 8 @ 9:15 PM EST
    CODY G. DC Park City, UT #425chat
  • thomps_03 Mar 8 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1 simple rules for all formations, "built" in answers for different offenses week to week, run first mentality #425chat
  • KidCoolBreeze49 Mar 8 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Ran it sparingly, based on scouting reports. But, loved that we could hide coverages & keep a blitz w/o giving up much. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • JerodBrown_ Mar 8 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Also, forgot to check in! Jerod Brown, JV HC and eventual Varsity HC at El Molino High School in Forestville, CA. Follow me, Coaches, and I’ll follow back. Always trying to grow and connect. #425chat
  • JerodBrown_ Mar 8 @ 9:15 PM EST
    #425chat
    • JerodBrown_ Mar 8 @ 6:50 PM EST
      Coaches, looking to keep connecting. Tag any coach that you think I should be following. If I’m not already, I will.
  • CoachSchmidt17 Mar 8 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1: High school QB’s can now read coverages and giving them unbalanced looks causes hesitation/mistakes #425chat
  • CODY_GARDNER Mar 8 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1) Allows the freedom to pick the best coverage to each side. #425chat
  • LoganWyrick Mar 8 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Logan Wyrick / HC / Humboldt HS / Humboldt, KS #425chat
  • CoachSelfridge Mar 8 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A1 - split field has allowed us to be dynamic by situation and also personnel - both our opponents and ours. Our kids can line up and go simply by what they see to their side. #425chat
  • CoachBillups_ Mar 8 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Brandon Billups, Charlotte, NC, Free Agent Coach #425chat
  • CoachSlade_Cal Mar 8 @ 9:16 PM EST
    #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • coachsmitty_43 Mar 8 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A1: SFC gives you the ability to utilize matchups you like, or give extra help vs. matchups you might not like so much...also the ability to show different looks to each side of the field makes that 16-17 year old QB have to think an awful lot on his feet #425chat
  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:16 PM EST
    #425chat
    In reply to @CoachSund
  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:16 PM EST
    #425chat
    In reply to @CoachSlade_Cal
  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:16 PM EST
    #425chat
    In reply to @coachwithgloves, @The_Coach_A
  • CoachSlade_Cal Mar 8 @ 9:16 PM EST
    #425chat
    • CoachSlade_Cal Mar 8 @ 9:15 PM EST
      Because I can always get the maximum number of men in the box. With SFC you don't have a guy backpedaling and just covering grass. You can get 9 guys in the box vs 21 personnel. 8 guys vs 20, etc.
      In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • Hayden108John Mar 8 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A1) like it for run support and cov. Disguise. Works on both 2x2 or 3x1. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:17 PM EST
    #425chat
    In reply to @DBsCoachWhit
  • CoachZackMcGee Mar 8 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A1: Split Field coverage is adaptable. It molds to the formation on your side of the field. Quarters concepts help you get an extra fitter. Tempo Offenses like to have built in answers pre snap and post snap. Split Field gives you answers for the formations you see. #425chat
  • KidCoolBreeze49 Mar 8 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Rodney Pauley, frmr DC/LB, Pasadena CA @CoachKelleyAHS #425Chat
  • BSimmons25 Mar 8 @ 9:18 PM EST
    From an offensive POV, split field coverage clouds QB pre snap reads. VA Tech does it better than anyone in all the land. #425Chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Q2 coming up in minutes!!! #425chat
  • Coachbrown16 Mar 8 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A1: We really don't do much of it if any we play a very aggressive scheme overall and split field coverage kinda takes our Aggressiveness away but SFC used correctly can confuse opposing qbs #425chat
  • coach_thomas8 Mar 8 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A1) I think split field helps me dictate to the offense where I want the ball to go and gives me the ability to disguise that as well #425chat
  • Mr_Stadem Mar 8 @ 9:19 PM EST
    What would you guys say it's easier to use SFC against? 3x1 Open, 2x2, or 3x1 Trey? #425chat
  • LoganWyrick Mar 8 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A1: SFC allowed us to feel like we always had at least a good answer to any possible alignment and also gave us the ability to get our other safety in the box a lot of the time #425chat
  • CoachSund Mar 8 @ 9:20 PM EST
    SFC is also a natural "trips adjuster" #425chat
  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Q2: How do you teach your SFC install? Rules for 2x2? 3x1? Etc.... #425Chat
  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Think I just created an acronym for defense to combat those RPOs! Split field coverage=SFC #425Chat
  • CODY_GARDNER Mar 8 @ 9:21 PM EST
    It’s just what we do, so any formation is the easy. We have our rules & we apply them. We teach base on that number of WRs then we adjust for the options within the number of WRs. And the kids call it, #425Chat
    In reply to @Mr_Stadem
  • CoachSelfridge Mar 8 @ 9:22 PM EST
    If taught right - doesn’t matter. Should have a plan for 1,2,3,4 receivers to a side. #425chat
    In reply to @Mr_Stadem
  • MrCoachAustin Mar 8 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A1: It puts our kids in the best position to cover an opponent’s trending combos on both the field and boundary side with one call, and allows our Will to focusing on the run #425chat
  • NineintheBox Mar 8 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A1: split field coverage gives you flexibility to match up passing strength and boundary independently based on match up and formation. Also most sound vs motion/trade. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:23 PM EST
    They do it well, BUT, @TCUFootball is my leader in SFC and 425 defense! #425chat
    In reply to @BSimmons25, @TCUFootball
  • CoachDiG Mar 8 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2: 2 main points: 2x2 vary the boundary between man and zone concepts. 3x1 get under bender and mess with Minj game #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • BSimmons25 Mar 8 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Oh, I love TCU but the horn frogs are 3-3 stack yeah? #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS, @TCUFootball
  • CODY_GARDNER Mar 8 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2) We have calls for 1, 2, 3 receivers, then we teach the strengths& weaknesses of each call. Empower the kids to make calls and checks, they are ultimately the ones who have to play it, so I give them plenty of slack to do it. #425chat
  • CoachSelfridge Mar 8 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2 - we teach it as true half field. We show how to cover 2 receivers , 3 receivers, 1 receiver. Regardless of side or field boundary #425Chat
  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Nope! 4-2-5 is their baby! Lol 😂 #425chat
    In reply to @BSimmons25, @TCUFootball
  • CoachSund Mar 8 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2) Always have started 2x2 as it is balanced. Palms is taught first from this set. I don't teach coverage I teach rules. They don't know what coverage they are in they just know the checks they are supposed to makes based on threats to their side #425chat
  • JerodBrown_ Mar 8 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2: Haven’t done it yet but I’m stealing everyone’s ideas. #425chat
  • CoachSlade_Cal Mar 8 @ 9:24 PM EST
    I used to start with pro I, now I start with defending the spread. All depends on what you see. The most important thing is to give your kids concrete rules/checks vs formations/situations. That way you are holding the pencil last. Teach your kids the game. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • CoachBillups_ Mar 8 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A2: we did a lot of half line focused on the strong side first make all adjustments out of that. Than show them the back side. Do it in a crawl, walk. And run phase #425chat
  • CoachZackMcGee Mar 8 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A2: Start by defining each “picture”. 2 removed, pro, trips, single. Then teach what coverages fit what picture. Usually start with 2 removed which is Palms/2 read for us. 3x1 is mini or special (TCU lingo) #425chat
  • BigNuts55 Mar 8 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A1) Still learning about SFC, but mainly installed a C2/3 and a C3 Buzz/Mable to defend against heavy motion teams. #425chat
  • NineintheBox Mar 8 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A2: statistically speaking 2 by is the most common width. Our calls are based on that and checked to 3 by, 20p, etc. robber concept to the field is our base coverage, which holds rules true to 3by and empty. Also allowing creativity into the boundary. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • coachsmitty_43 Mar 8 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A2: We teach what coverage looks we like vs what surfaces...2WRs, TE/WR, 3WRs, 1WR, etc...once we have a good understanding of that we can start to mix and match to create advantages #425chat
  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:27 PM EST
    #425chat
    In reply to @CoachSchmidt17
  • CODY_GARDNER Mar 8 @ 9:27 PM EST
    With that being said, I rarely give them the full menu of checks. If we can play trips 10 ways, we will only carry 3-4 into a game. #425chat
  • LoganWyrick Mar 8 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A2: We start with the calls we make to each alignment and why. We put responsibility on our safeties to make correct calls and echoed by our corners. Try to make it as simple as we can, 5 main calls; 6 if we ever see Quads #425chat
  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Great responses! Q3 coming up now! #425chat #GetBetter
  • Hayden108John Mar 8 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Install over summer. Start with 2x2 rules. We also call sit✓ which gives the FS the call. Ours can change weekly. We will play 1/4's to strength and man or zone backside.#425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:30 PM EST
    #425chat
    In reply to @thomps_03
  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Q3: Saw some of y’all allow kids to call the coverage. Why do you feel this allows them to play fast? How many coaches DON’T allow the kids to call SFC? #425chat
  • greek42e Mar 8 @ 9:31 PM EST
    FirstInstall -2x2 FS Sets strength. Calls coverage (read) 2nd-Solo to 3x1. Easiest 3rd -11 pers spread. Not played same as 2x2 detached most time. 4. Pro 21 pers. base check really becomes robber to the call away is basically c3 match. 5th-12 pers ace #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • BSimmons25 Mar 8 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A2) From an offensive POV, i usually get: 2x2= 4 across, 2 high, single high (1 & 3) 3x1= 3, roll 3, cover 6 (2 in boundary, 4 to field) #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • CoachSlade_Cal Mar 8 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A3: Why not let the kids call it? I feel like they can play faster. They are not always looking to the sideline. It lets them take ownership of the coverage and the scheme. Most of all, it doesn't matter what we are playing as long as we are on the same page. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • CoachDiG Mar 8 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A3: usually a portion of it but still have a pretty short list of options #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • NineintheBox Mar 8 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A3: the players have to play, not us. Teach them the “whys” and the tendencies and let them own it. There are good side line conversations that can be have when you let them adjust. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • CoachBillups_ Mar 8 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A3: I feel like if they can than allow it. Especially if you have a High IQ guy on the field. Plus I’ll help out if it not the right call 😂 but it depends on your joes! #425Chat
    • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:31 PM EST
      Q3: Saw some of y’all allow kids to call the coverage. Why do you feel this allows them to play fast? How many coaches DON’T allow the kids to call SFC? #425chat
  • BSimmons25 Mar 8 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A3) growth mindset. When you empower your athletes, ownership is applied resulting in accountability. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • coach_thomas8 Mar 8 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A2) teach 2 read/palms to all 5 DB’s, teach man to CB’s, teach robber technique to the deep safeties. That allows to install different combos faster #425chat
  • greek42e Mar 8 @ 9:35 PM EST
    Cont. then 6th install is heavy O 22 pers And 31/32 install. Any of those packages usually require one of the back 5 to be replaced with more of LB Type. It’s really not split field at that point but position names and coverage calls stay same #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • CoachDiG Mar 8 @ 9:35 PM EST
    And @NineintheBox uses very innovative ways to teach and test with @Google during the week of prep #425chat
    In reply to @NineintheBox, @CoachKelleyAHS, @NineintheBox, @Google
  • CoachSelfridge Mar 8 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A3 - because kids rep those situations all week. Checks can be based on skill , alignment or preference. #425chat
  • CoachSund Mar 8 @ 9:36 PM EST
    So I do both. In palms they make the check because it's based on alignment of bogeys, but I have called the coverage for them as palms will not be the only coverage of the night obviously. #425chat
  • CoachZackMcGee Mar 8 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A3: I just learned it that way. I give one signal. They make a call based on what they see to their side. How can you run split field coverage without the players making their own call to their side? #425Chat
    • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:31 PM EST
      Q3: Saw some of y’all allow kids to call the coverage. Why do you feel this allows them to play fast? How many coaches DON’T allow the kids to call SFC? #425chat
  • Coach_T85 Mar 8 @ 9:36 PM EST
    I think it gives us the ability to adjust our coverages from man to cover 5 to stress and focus on the athletes strengths while keeping 6 in the box #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • BSimmons25 Mar 8 @ 9:36 PM EST
    Your kids are on the field in real time. They have a better view than you. Train them as they should go & guide them along the way. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • CoachSchmidt17 Mar 8 @ 9:36 PM EST
    This is exactly why! Give them ownership! #425chat
    In reply to @NineintheBox, @CoachKelleyAHS
  • LoganWyrick Mar 8 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A3: Everything is a one word pre-snap call & we only use 5 calls. We’ve repped it enough starting in the summer, that it’s 2nd nature for them to check the alignment to their side. As long as they don’t call it Nub (single TE) when it is Trio (3 receivers)then we’re good #425chat
  • CODY_GARDNER Mar 8 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A3)my job is to get them ready during the week, on Friday night they have to make plays they need ownership in the call. It’s a trust thing & I never want to make a call they don’t trust or believe in. They bust a call, it’s my fault for letting them. Takes away the fear #425chat
  • CoachSelfridge Mar 8 @ 9:38 PM EST
    And this #425chat
    • CoachSund Mar 8 @ 9:36 PM EST
      So I do both. In palms they make the check because it's based on alignment of bogeys, but I have called the coverage for them as palms will not be the only coverage of the night obviously. #425chat
  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Q4: What are your favorite combinations of you SFC calls? We will say it is against 2x2 #425chat
  • Coach_Jay53 Mar 8 @ 9:38 PM EST
    #425Chat A) For me it depends on the team we are facing. Since most times we are split field my Safty is my Q of the back end and gets them lined up. Per our game plan we have coverage tags! Enhances IQ when coming to the sideline as well.. in game eyes help with adjustments
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:39 PM EST
    Question 4 is now posted!!!! #425chat #GetBetter
  • CODY_GARDNER Mar 8 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A4) Zero to Read side, palms away, frees the down safety up. #425chat
  • CoachSelfridge Mar 8 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Even this - I have a saying on defense that I stole from @CoachNBurton at a clinic a long time ago “if we are all wrong we are all right”. So if everyone is playing it the same way you will be ok. #425chat
    • LoganWyrick Mar 8 @ 9:37 PM EST
      A3: Everything is a one word pre-snap call & we only use 5 calls. We’ve repped it enough starting in the summer, that it’s 2nd nature for them to check the alignment to their side. As long as they don’t call it Nub (single TE) when it is Trio (3 receivers)then we’re good #425chat
  • thomps_03 Mar 8 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A3 we live in the same SFC 95% of the night so we rarely need to call anything 😂 with that said, if developed trust, more on safety, until then it's on me #425chat
    • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:31 PM EST
      Q3: Saw some of y’all allow kids to call the coverage. Why do you feel this allows them to play fast? How many coaches DON’T allow the kids to call SFC? #425chat
  • NineintheBox Mar 8 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A4: read 2 quarters to the fields, hard corner to the boundary. Front set to the field. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:41 PM EST
    Glad you answered coach! Felt like a control freak lol #425chat
    In reply to @thomps_03
  • Coach_T85 Mar 8 @ 9:42 PM EST
    The R4 system QB we face in NORCAL can't get their pre snap reads when we show one coverage and give another look post snap, can really help you defend based off your scout report #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • BSimmons25 Mar 8 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A4) 2x2 = more movement. #425Chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • CoachSlade_Cal Mar 8 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A4: Depending on the splits, we will be in blue all the way across, which is read quarters. If the splits or hash change it can become robber/ quarters or quarters/ hard 2, etc. Mostly depends on game plan. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • LoganWyrick Mar 8 @ 9:42 PM EST
    If they’re communicating on the backend like they’re supposed to, even if they’re wrong then they’re all wrong and we’ll be fine just like you said. Teach them right first and let them take some ownership of it #425Chat
    In reply to @CoachSelfridge, @CoachNBurton
  • CoachZackMcGee Mar 8 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A4: vs 10p 2x2 we like palms by default. A tweak is play quarters concept with CB man 1 and safety takes up and out of 2. Another tweak to strong side is put the overhang outside of 2 and play quarters. #425chat
  • MrCoachAustin Mar 8 @ 9:43 PM EST
    #425chat
    • MrCoachAustin Mar 8 @ 9:42 PM EST
      A2: Usually teach base coverages first, then relate those concepts to our SFCs. I found it helps the kids understand the “why” behind it, and allows us to adjust our calls based on our opponent. The kids also started to apply it to their film work and were able to provide input
  • BSimmons25 Mar 8 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Offenses don’t like movement. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • CoachSlade_Cal Mar 8 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A4: I turn into a 43 guy vs balanced formations. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • CoachSund Mar 8 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A4) Palms has several checks that creates SFC. If Safety feels as if he can get on top of number 1 vertical he have 2 read called to his say,but let's say safety on other side feels he can't get on top because#1 is too far away we will "lock" man that side #425chat
  • coach_thomas8 Mar 8 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A3) the smarter/more experienced FS gets less tags from me. I let him make calls based off tendencies. I tag everything for the inexperienced guys #425chat
  • greek42e Mar 8 @ 9:44 PM EST
    By calling the coverage I hope we mean one of two coverages. Anymore than that requires some critical thinking in a few seconds. If we give them the ...its this coverage UNLESS this happens THEN it’s this... rule. That’s all I would allow one check. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • CoachZackMcGee Mar 8 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A4 part 2: pro picture (wr&te) to strong side would be quarters with corner man 1 and deep safety takes vert of 2 or robs 1. SS/San/nickel is outside of TE plays force flat. Pro to weak side is qtrs concept. CB man 1. Safety up and out of 2 or rob 1 #425chat
  • CoachSchmidt17 Mar 8 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A4: Pattern 2 Read to boundary, cover 4 to field side with a jam by OLB #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • Coach_Jay53 Mar 8 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A4.) pending game plan splits etc , but press quarters front set to field, ILB set to the back, can also do a man concept with high safety to strength and backside run read. #425Chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • CoachSelfridge Mar 8 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A4 - base blue coverage with a mike, ss and will that understand pattern match drops. #425chat
  • CODY_GARDNER Mar 8 @ 9:46 PM EST
    I will say that our last FS is going to Princeton and the guy before was a 30+ ACT kid. So my tune could change in the future, #425chat
  • thomps_03 Mar 8 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A4 we will run 42 (cover 4 strong and 2 weak) #425chat
  • greek42e Mar 8 @ 9:47 PM EST
    For ex. ... we are setting passing strength to the field in palms this week , unless Julio Jones is in the slot to the boundary then it’s man free bracket to the Y. FS ur checking it. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • KidCoolBreeze49 Mar 8 @ 9:48 PM EST
    With you on that one coach. Most calls/checks were run through the safety, but only when he showed ability to recognize what we’re looking for in offensive formation & their tendency. #425Chat
    In reply to @thomps_03
  • CoachBillups_ Mar 8 @ 9:48 PM EST
    What kinda of cover 4 you guys teach? You telling S to line up over 2 or hash? #425chat
  • BarryHoover Mar 8 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Agreed. When guys understand why we want to check coverage, they are empowered and the defense is able to be really good. 2 of the 3 safeties need to be really smart, one on each side. #425chat
    • NineintheBox Mar 8 @ 9:34 PM EST
      A3: the players have to play, not us. Teach them the “whys” and the tendencies and let them own it. There are good side line conversations that can be have when you let them adjust. #425chat
      In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Q5: LAST QUESTION! How do primarily teach your SFC? On field? White board? Walk through? Where do the kids become more comfortable? #425chat
  • BSimmons25 Mar 8 @ 9:49 PM EST
    We see safeties on hash in our league. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachBillups_
  • BigNuts55 Mar 8 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A3) I heard Coach @TCUCoachP speak on SFC, &went through pros/cons myself. Pros: gives player(s) more ownership of our defense. They wouldn't have to wait for me to see the offense. Cons: 1. Player id error. 2. Down/distance and RZ situation. 3. More for kids to remember #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS, @TCUCoachP
  • coach_thomas8 Mar 8 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A4) Base is 2read/2read but a good change up for me is 2read to the back/ lock away from the back. Gives me a stronger presence in the box. #425chat
  • BSimmons25 Mar 8 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Nooooooooooo lol. 4-1= check inside run. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachBillups_, @CoachKelleyAHS
  • Hayden108John Mar 8 @ 9:52 PM EST
    1/4's to strength and man backside with ss as run support an slant/post help. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • CODY_GARDNER Mar 8 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A5) Static then dynamic. So board, cadence(alignment session) then Indy & 7v7. Install we start 2x2 then singles then trips. #425chat
  • Hayden108John Mar 8 @ 9:52 PM EST
    Looking at adding 2 read to the backside also. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • fitzsi95 Mar 8 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A5) Like anything else; flipped coaching. Give it to them on their devices, break it down as a group in the meeting room, apply it on the practice field. #425Chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • BSimmons25 Mar 8 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A5) all of the above. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • CoachSelfridge Mar 8 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A5 - teach them the rules and then get them in the field and show them that when you trust the rules you have answers to whatever concept the O throws at you. Then when in game night you see something they haven’t shown in film they have a rule based foundation. #425chat
    • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:49 PM EST
      Q5: LAST QUESTION! How do primarily teach your SFC? On field? White board? Walk through? Where do the kids become more comfortable? #425chat
  • CoachSlade_Cal Mar 8 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A5: Have always started teaching on board or on hudl. Let them see what formations look like for real. After they get the basics go outside and walkthru. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • LoganWyrick Mar 8 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A5: we try to do all installs both offensively & defensively starting in the meeting room on the board having them draw it all up in their own notebook. Then we go to walkthru & then put it into motion. Every kid learns differently, it’s our job to figure out how that is #425chat
  • CoachZackMcGee Mar 8 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A5: this year I used a combo of things. Started with meetings with PowerPoint with drawings and whiteboard. Then film clips. Then on field we did alignment. Then we did half line drill. Walked it then ran routes. Our HC has good approach. Teach to diff learning styles. #425chat
    • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:49 PM EST
      Q5: LAST QUESTION! How do primarily teach your SFC? On field? White board? Walk through? Where do the kids become more comfortable? #425chat
  • NineintheBox Mar 8 @ 9:55 PM EST
    Front depends on a lot of factors, but with a hard corner into the boundary the overhand doesn’t need to plus out very far and can fit in b. Stress to carry 1 vertical if 2 goes vert is on the cb. #425chat
    In reply to @sdfbca_clinic, @CoachKelleyAHS
  • MrCoachAustin Mar 8 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A3: We let our BC change the backside coverage in some instances. Since we don’t see any pass dominant teams, we usually teach a few “coverage rules” for the week and the kids call it on the field. Makes them a part of the game plan process and better understand the Off. #425chat
  • sdfbca_clinic Mar 8 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Kept thinking I was reading about @FootballSFC around here! #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS, @FootballSFC
  • Hayden108John Mar 8 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A5) Summer. Practice & 7on7. Try and cover all situations. 7on7 in summer is great to work it. Don't give a crap about winning 7on7's. Want to learn from it and teach/work our concepts. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • CoachDiG Mar 8 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A5: usually same way as everything but communication is key and identifying formation so on field is effective #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyAHS
  • thomps_03 Mar 8 @ 9:58 PM EST
    #425chat
    • thomps_03 Mar 8 @ 9:56 PM EST
      A5 a little of everything but love walk through. Start with 1 wr vs strong/weak side and go through releases, then another, finally combos and reaction
  • CoachKelleyAHS - Moderator Mar 8 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Coaches, I appreciate the GREAT participation tonight! Look for the poll later and we will have the topic! #425chat #GetBetter
  • sdfbca_clinic Mar 8 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Disguise much? Run to different on snap? #425chat
    In reply to @BSimmons25, @CoachKelleyAHS
  • BSimmons25 Mar 8 @ 9:58 PM EST
    It was pleasure men! Until next time ! #425chat
  • sdfbca_clinic Mar 8 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Always depends of you have a talent dis/advantage vs solo backside of 3 x 1? #425chat
    In reply to @Hayden108John, @CoachKelleyAHS
  • BarryHoover Mar 8 @ 10:00 PM EST
    A5) You have to take them from the class to the grass. Walk-throughs are important as well as 1/2 field 7 on 7 and making them adjust coverages depending on look to their side and splits. Once they get that down, start doing lot of motion. #425chat