#octmchat Archive


Thursday May 3, 2018
8:30 PM EDT

  • MattAnderson289 May 3 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Welcome to #octmchat Thursday! Take a moment to introduce yourself, your role in education, and where you're from! Glad you are joining us!
  • rachaelhgorsuch May 3 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Rachael Gorsuch, high school math teacher at @ColumbusAcademy #octmchat
  • tomkaz10 May 3 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Tom Kaczmarek, Mathematics Curriculum Leader, Worthington City Schools @wcsdistrict #octmchat
  • MattAnderson289 May 3 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Matt, administrator at @DavidsonHS , former math teacher - tuning in while I finish watching a big @cavs win! #octmchat
  • jeisenbraun May 3 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Jeff Eisenbraun, secondary math, Mahoning County ESC #octmchat
  • MattAnderson289 May 3 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Thanks for being here, Rachael! #octmchat
    In reply to @rachaelhgorsuch, @ColumbusAcademy
  • cmsmath May 3 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Hi everyone, Catherine Schulte, math coach/consultant with Hamilton County ESC #octmchat
  • BaileyJodie - Moderator May 3 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Jodie Bailey - math coach @HilliardSchools & President Elect for @ohioctm Thanks for hosting #octmchat tonight @MattAnderson289 & @tomkaz10! This is a great topic!
  • MattAnderson289 May 3 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    We will be using the Q1, A1... format for the chat tonight. Make sure you include #octmchat in all of your responses
  • MattAnderson289 May 3 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Thanks for being here, Jeff! #octmchat
    In reply to @jeisenbraun
  • JacquiLehmkuhl May 3 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Jacqui Lehmkuhl, Math Chair for Troy High School and Vice-President of Secondary for OCTM. #octmchat
  • chrissybug24 May 3 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Hi! I'm Christina - one of the mathematics consultants/instructional coaches @HamiltonCoESC in Cincinnati... and I'm the current President @ohioctm #OCTMchat
  • MattAnderson289 May 3 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Hi, Christina! #octmchat
    In reply to @chrissybug24, @HamiltonCoESC, @ohioctm
  • tomkaz10 May 3 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    First question, coming up! #octmchat
  • tomkaz10 May 3 @ 8:36 PM EDT
  • jeisenbraun May 3 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    and East District Director for OCTM Thanks for hosting tonight. Great topic #octmchat
  • rachaelhgorsuch May 3 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A1: inch cubes have been so meaningful with my students! The ability to physically move things around slows down their thinking and makes them ponder more #octmchat
  • MattAnderson289 May 3 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    Giving students the opportunity to "play with math" is huge! #octmchat
    In reply to @rachaelhgorsuch
  • cmsmath May 3 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A1 My classroom experience was middle school and my favorite manipulative was pentominoes. #octmchat
  • BaileyJodie - Moderator May 3 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Cubes - inch cubes and centimeter cubes - are versatile for many things. I also like inch tiles. And algebra tiles really opened my eyes - wish I'd had those when I was in Algebra! Was I supposed to choose just one?!? #octmchat
  • batty314 May 3 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Bob Batty math specialist at the Darke County ESC (soon to be math teacher at Covington HS) #octmchat
  • MattAnderson289 May 3 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A1: algebra tiles - by far! They make abstract topics like factoring so tangible for approachable for students! #octmchat
  • MattAnderson289 May 3 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    Welcome, Bob! #octmchat
    In reply to @batty314
  • rachaelhgorsuch May 3 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    Love my technology, but sometimes I want them to take some time to think through things #OCTMchat
    In reply to @tomkaz10
  • jeisenbraun May 3 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A1. Algebra tiles have been my favorite. Had a great talk with a MS teach that didn't know how they could be used in HS #octmchat
  • MattAnderson289 May 3 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Question #2 coming up in one minute! #octmchat
  • chrissybug24 May 3 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A1: I have to pick just ONE?! UGH! So... back in the day when I was a Geometry teacher, I loved Patty Paper! :) Now that I'm a coach, I love fraction bars, open number lines, ten frames, rekenreks... and the list goes on! :) #OCTMchat
  • batty314 May 3 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A1 spaghetti segments for just about everything in geometry #octmchat
  • MattAnderson289 May 3 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    They lend themselves to so many topics - factoring, completing the square, simplifying/evaluating polynomials - they are great! #octmchat
    In reply to @jeisenbraun
  • rachaelhgorsuch May 3 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A1: Monkey string became one of my favorite manipulative last year too because it’s so versatile, especially in my Precalc classes #octmchat
  • JacquiLehmkuhl May 3 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A1: Agree with @rachaelhgorsuch! Anything that can illustrate a mathlete's thinking and to allow freedom to take risks! #octmchat
  • jeisenbraun May 3 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    I've been playing around with pentominoes lately with my 1st grader! #octmchat
    In reply to @cmsmath
  • MattAnderson289 May 3 @ 8:43 PM EDT
  • tomkaz10 May 3 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A1 Algebra Tiles! After using them with my daughter for the first time (for both of us) she said she had to stop playing and get back to math. 😂 #octmchat
  • chrissybug24 May 3 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    Oh, yes... how could I forget my spaghetti lab for the unit circle! :) #OCTMchat
    In reply to @batty314
  • AnnEliseRecord May 3 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Ann Elise, Math Specialist from NH. The most versatile and powerful math manipulative I know of is Cuisenaire rods. #octmchat
  • MattAnderson289 May 3 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Some great lesson plan ideas out here tonight! #octmchat
  • MattAnderson289 May 3 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    Thanks for being here, Ann Elise! #octmchat
    In reply to @AnnEliseRecord
  • Fouss May 3 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    #octmchat Sorry to jump in late! I'm Kristen Fouss and I teach at Anderson HS in Cincy.
  • Sheridance321 May 3 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A1: Can I say algebra tiles for myself? I feel like they have given me a concrete thing to fall back on when students aren't understanding. #octmchat
  • MattAnderson289 May 3 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    Welcome, Kristen! #octmchat
    In reply to @Fouss
  • jeisenbraun May 3 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A2. Some HS students think that toys are for little kids. Once they see how it can help or at least show them the math in a different way, they're sold. #octmchat
  • MattAnderson289 May 3 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Agreed! #octmchat
    In reply to @Sheridance321
  • tomkaz10 May 3 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A2: Students can become off task and frustrated if the teacher is not careful - they need a lot of coaching, questioning, and guiding in the beginning #octmchat
  • cmsmath May 3 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A2 I think the greatest challenge for me was to start. Kids need that time to play first and it is so challenging to allow that time for exploration #octmchat
  • MattAnderson289 May 3 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    Could not agree more! The use of these manipulatives have no age limit. #octmchat
    • jeisenbraun May 3 @ 8:46 PM EDT
      A2. Some HS students think that toys are for little kids. Once they see how it can help or at least show them the math in a different way, they're sold. #octmchat
  • chrissybug24 May 3 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A2: I have to remind myself to SLOW DOWN and let the students explore the manipulative... and to explicitly make connections between the pictorial and abstract representations #OCTMchat
  • batty314 May 3 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A2 I struggle with kids wanting to move past the concretebefore they are ready because they are toys... I try to focus on the term tools, but it isn’t always effective. #octmchat
  • MattAnderson289 May 3 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    There certainly is a time investment for exploration - but the depth is certainly worth it!#octmchat
    In reply to @cmsmath
  • Sheridance321 May 3 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    Q2: mostly incorporating negative numbers. Sometimes it feels more complicated then"rule" but I am always reminding myself to take it back to the conceptual understanding and that seems to help. #octmchat
  • Fouss May 3 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A2 I struggle with manipulatives in general. I still don't get Algebra tiles. I tend to look more for online tools as visuals. #octmchat
  • BaileyJodie - Moderator May 3 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    If they already know the procedure, Ss can become frustrated by having to "show" what is happening. i've challenged them to match the procedure with the visual and act out what is happening. Linking representations builds conceptual understanding. #octmchat
  • rachaelhgorsuch May 3 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A1: monkey string below 👇 #octmchat https://t.co/mxlXUio8E8
  • MattAnderson289 May 3 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A2: At some point, bigger ideas need to be extrapolated from their use, but the key is finding the balance of when that time is, cannot be too early #octmchat
  • MattAnderson289 May 3 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    Great point! #octmchat
    In reply to @BaileyJodie
  • rachaelhgorsuch May 3 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A2: unfortunately, some of my Ss haven’t had much experience with measuring and that sometimes means teaching skills I didn’t anticipate #octmchat
  • JacquiLehmkuhl May 3 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A2: Instead of spaghetti @batty314 , I use string licorice a lot in geometry. (radian, triangle inequalities, etc) The struggle was the "straightness" factor and the creativeness of teenagers to make jewelry and other with the juicy goodness. #octmchat
  • MattAnderson289 May 3 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    Thanks, Rachael! #octmchat
  • MattAnderson289 May 3 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Who doesn't love using candy with math?? :) #octmchat
    In reply to @JacquiLehmkuhl, @batty314
  • rachaelhgorsuch May 3 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A2: My Ss are used to technology, so they kind of have to be guided through how to play initially #octmchat
  • tomkaz10 May 3 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    Anticipating potential confusion is a great reminder! #OCTMchat
    In reply to @rachaelhgorsuch
  • tomkaz10 May 3 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    Question 3 coming up! #octmchat
  • jeisenbraun May 3 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    Agreed. Topics that otherwise could become very procedural. #octmchat
    In reply to @MattAnderson289
  • tomkaz10 May 3 @ 8:54 PM EDT
  • MattAnderson289 May 3 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    A3: Hands on Equations, @Desmos student activites are great tools for modeling with mathematics. #octmchat
  • Fouss May 3 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    I've used twizzlers, smartie, and yarn to measure radians. But I wouldn't have considered those manipulatives until now! #octmchat
    In reply to @JacquiLehmkuhl, @batty314
  • EduGladiators May 3 @ 8:57 PM EDT
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  • batty314 May 3 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A3 SMP7 for sure! manipulatives are great for seeing the structure of mathematics #octmchat
  • BaileyJodie - Moderator May 3 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    Using manipulatives with SMP 3 allows students to make their thinking visual in ways other than writing a series of symbols & equations. Allows opportunities to discuss and revise ideas. #octmchat
  • chrissybug24 May 3 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    A3: So... when the 8 Mathematical Practices first came out I realized how guilty I was as a former Geometry teacher of just HANDING Ss the tools they were going to need instead of allowing them to choose... "appropriate tools" became a way for see "student voice" :) #OCTMchat
  • Fouss May 3 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    I need to play with them more. Need to understand it better beforeI use it with kids. #octmchat
    In reply to @MrCorleyMath, @batty314, @MrOrr_geek
  • tomkaz10 May 3 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    MP1 - The world is full of ill defined problems to be solved! Manipulatives help us all "Make Sense" of the problem! #OCTMchat
  • MattAnderson289 May 3 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Absolutely! #octmchat
    In reply to @chrissybug24
  • jeisenbraun May 3 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    A3. Reason abstractly and quantitatively. I love watching students "see" the different lengths of x and y in algebra tiles. x^2 and y^2 too. #octmchat