#NGSSchat Archive

A Twitter chat focused one helping share ideas and host discussions around NGSS implementation.

Thursday February 7, 2019
9:00 PM EST

  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Welcome to #NGSSchat We’re so excited you’re joining a us! Please remember to include #NGSSchat in your tweets!
  • BKd204Sci Feb 7 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Brian, 8th grade science from Illinois ready to roll in #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Please start by introducing yourselves with your name, ,what you do, and where you’re from! #NGSSchat
  • revel56 Feb 7 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Ryan in southern DE #NGSSChat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Welcome Brian! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @BKd204Sci
  • MsVickScience Feb 7 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Nicole, HS science from Illinois ready to have a full week of school #ngsschat
  • frizzlerichard Feb 7 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hello! I'm Meg from a very icy Kansas City- I teach Science 7 #ngsschat
  • ShabanaJameel2 Feb 7 @ 9:02 PM EST
    I’m still looking for a School Job - I’m in IL and taught 1stGr. #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Welcome Nicole! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @MsVickScience
  • JeanneBrunner Feb 7 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Jeanne, assistant prof in science ed in Mass. First #ngsschat and I'm excited to join in!
  • nkeigher202 Feb 7 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Natalie in IL - excited to learn and maybe contribute... 7th grade science in Chicago suburbs #ngsschat Trying to chat and navigate 6yo's bedtime. :)
  • revel56 Feb 7 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Ryan, I teach HS science in Southern DE... #NGSSChat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Welcome Meg! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @frizzlerichard
  • tchingelements Feb 7 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hello! I’m Heather, a PK-12 Science Coordinator from Oklahoma! #OKSci #ngsschat
  • MisterSci Feb 7 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Hello! Dan from Lawrence, MA, 6th grade science teacher! #NGSSChat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Welcome Shabana! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @ShabanaJameel2
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Welcome Jeanne! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @JeanneBrunner
  • BKd204Sci Feb 7 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Welcome to the best #ngss based chat on Twitter! #ngsschat
    In reply to @JeanneBrunner
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Welcome Natalie! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @nkeigher202
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Welcome Ryan! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @revel56
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Welcome Heather! #NGSSchat
  • sciresSoehl Feb 7 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hi Diana from NYC- 9th grBio & 12th gr Enviro teacher! #NGSSchat @TdiShelton @2footgiraffe @Ted_NSTA @NSTA
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Great to see you Dan! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @MisterSci
  • FcboeSci Feb 7 @ 9:04 PM EST
    My name is Randy. I am a 7th and 8th grade science teacher in Georgia (an 80 degree day today #ngsschat
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 7 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hi everyone, Ted Willard coming to you from NSTA Galactic Headquarters where I keep tooling away on finishing mapping the NGSS. Happy to take a break for #NGSSchat
  • japhillips0722 Feb 7 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Good evening! Jerod, elementary AP, tweeting from Magnolia, DE #NGSSchat
  • tjscience Feb 7 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hi everyone! TJ from @BUWheelock in Boston, MA #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hi Diana! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @sciresSoehl, @2footgiraffe, @Ted_NSTA, @NSTA
  • FcboeSci Feb 7 @ 9:04 PM EST
    and my first time in a chat room. #ngsschat
  • quincygirls1 Feb 7 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Shawn, 7th grade science, from one of the few counties in Michigan NOT under a storm warming. Stay safe Michigan peeps. #ngsschat
  • teachearthspace Feb 7 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Angie, I teach high school Earth Space science in Omaha Nebraska. #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Welcome Randy! Wow 80 degrees is crazy for Feb! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @FcboeSci
  • HeatherARich Feb 7 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Heather, preK-5 Instructional Coach for Science in Monterrey, Mexico. Looking forward to #ngsschat tonight!
  • japhillips0722 Feb 7 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Good evening! I'm from southern Delaware, Georgetown to be exact #NGSSchat
    In reply to @revel56
  • MisterSci Feb 7 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Good to see you too, Tricia! #NGSSChat
    In reply to @TdiShelton
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Welcome Ted! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @Ted_NSTA
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Welcome Jerod! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @japhillips0722
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Welcome TJ #NGSSchat
    In reply to @tjscience, @BUWheelock
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Welcome Shawn! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @quincygirls1
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Welcome Angie! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @teachearthspace
  • BMSscienceteach Feb 7 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Patrick from Lexington, KY. 8th grade science teacher. In the process of getting my first student developed podcast published on iTunes! #ngsschat
  • japhillips0722 Feb 7 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Greetings. I'm glad to be here! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @TdiShelton
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Welcome Heather! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @HeatherARich
  • wandabryant Feb 7 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Wanda Bryant, 7th grade science teacher, Detroit Public Schools Community District #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Welcome Patrick! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @BMSscienceteach
  • tjscience Feb 7 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Great to see everyone again :) #NGSSchat
    In reply to @TdiShelton, @BUWheelock
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 7 @ 9:07 PM EST
    This is what January looked like for me. #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Welcome Wanda! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @wandabryant
  • NGSSchat - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Q1 coming out #ngsschat
  • susan_german Feb 7 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Hello, NGSS from Missouri. Susan German living where last night's weather map looked like this. #ngsschat
  • NGSSchat - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Q1 Please consider this definition of a storyline in the #NGSS. How would you define the difference between a storyline and a traditional sequence of lesson? #NGSSchat https://t.co/SjhPJFM2sy
  • frizzlerichard Feb 7 @ 9:09 PM EST
    I'm from the Kansas City side! Wasn't it CRAZY? The thunder sleet was my favorite! #ngsschat
    In reply to @susan_german
  • Eads_Science Feb 7 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Amy Eads, Kenton County, Ky teaching 7th grade science #NGSSChat
  • thompsonabell Feb 7 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Elementary STEM Lab teacher in Kentucky #ngsschat
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 7 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: They are spelled differently!! But seriously, the key to a storyline is that there is "story" to follow for the students. That means that students know why they are doing something before they even do it. Because they have helped plan what they do. #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Def for Q1Q1 Please consider this definition of a storyline in the #NGSS. How would you define the difference between a storyline and a traditional sequence of lesson? #NGSSchat https://t.co/Nrm68AGj5w
  • Dora_Kastel Feb 7 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1 it’s about coherence from the students’ perspective rather than the teacher’s. Not easy to do if you never learned or taught that way before. #ngsschat
  • MsVickScience Feb 7 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1 Ss developing questions around a phenomenon & trying to answer those questions #ngsschat
  • wandabryant Feb 7 @ 9:11 PM EST
    The podcast was painless and hopefully helpful😍! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @sciresSoehl, @sciteachermama
  • tjscience Feb 7 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: A storyline more authentically represents how science happens in the world. There are not a clear sequence of things scientists do to figure things out - just good questions and tools & strategies to help build towards answers #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Welcome to #NGSSchat !
    In reply to @thompsonabell
  • frizzlerichard Feb 7 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: A story line keeps Ss coming back to an anchor that roots their understandings. #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Welcome Amy! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @Eads_Science
  • BKd204Sci Feb 7 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1 Storylines weave the students discovery of #phenomenon in the process of learning. Traditional sequences are over structured & put learning in a box which stifles student discovery #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Welcome Susan! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @susan_german
  • susan_german Feb 7 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A storyline is a coherent set of lessons that tells science as a narrative. A traditional sequence of lessons may or may not have a plot which develops a concept. Another difference is storylines are often student driven. #ngsschat
  • revel56 Feb 7 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: a storyline is coherent. Lessons follow a pattern that is easily followed by learners. A story line leads to sense making by applying big science ideas. #NGSSChat
  • tchingelements Feb 7 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1 I like to think of storylines in sci as a Mystery Novel for Ss - a beginning, middle & end all connected by student discoveries along the way. Traditional sequences were more independent, learning activities. #ngsschat
  • HeatherARich Feb 7 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Storyline is driven by questions co-constructed by Ts and Ss, which results in a sequence of lessons, with the purpose of finding out _____. A traditional sequence of lessons is constructed by the Ts, to get S to learn ______. #ngsschat
  • FcboeSci Feb 7 @ 9:12 PM EST
    #ngsschat #flocoscience The student is more active in a storyline, more passive in a traditional sequence.
  • teachearthspace Feb 7 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1: For me the difference is in who drives the learning. If the T is driving the learning, it is a lesson sequence. If Ss are driving the learning, then it is a storyline. A storyline is also different because of the phenomenon to solve. Sequences don’t need that. #ngsschat
  • dramyhimes Feb 7 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A Valentine's Day gift to give to yourself. ❤🧡💛💚💙 Can't wait to listen and learn. #nebsci Thank you @nselascience @DrJBlakeSci @LeeOl16 #science #diversity #equity #language #culture #ELL #NGSS #NGSSchat 🌈
  • sciresSoehl Feb 7 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1: This "students should be involved in co-constructing the question we are working on" using @RightQuestion is really helping me initiate this co-construction (even if a li bit contrived) as I shift to #NGSS #NYSSLS #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Love the focus on coherence for the learner here and the focus on USE of the science ideas learned to explain the world or solve problems in the world! #NGSSchat
    • revel56 Feb 7 @ 9:12 PM EST
      A1: a storyline is coherent. Lessons follow a pattern that is easily followed by learners. A story line leads to sense making by applying big science ideas. #NGSSChat
  • nkeigher202 Feb 7 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1 - Ownership. Traditional sequence: the T determines what comes next, Ss do what T says to do. Storyline: Ss' questions determine what comes next (and T may nudge them that way), they uncover knowledge they wanted. They own that knowledge - and it sticks. #ngsschat
  • wandabryant Feb 7 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1 My traditional lessons were coherent but from my perspective. Using storylines is far better for students! #NGSSchat
  • ChienforSTEM Feb 7 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Good evening science advocates! I’m Jenny from Vista, CA. Love #NGSSchat!
  • quincygirls1 Feb 7 @ 9:14 PM EST
    a1: What they all said...I like that the students say it is "real science". I think they mean "real world." #ngsschat
  • JeanneBrunner Feb 7 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1: I see the connection between lessons being much more obvious with storylines. Students know why they're doing the lesson and building towards a model of understanding a phenomenon. #NGSSchat
  • MisterSci Feb 7 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1: The "interactions with phenomena" is key. Where can we present discrepant events and let scholars grapple with them to move their thinking forward? Was fun today to do the iodine diffusion lab and ask scholars how it betters our understanding of the cell membrane! #NGSSchat
  • DiSunflower717 Feb 7 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1: Ss using a phenomenon to make observations and ask questions. Continual revisiting phenomena in storyline and seeing how new learning applies to those Ss Qs. Allows students to figure out. #ngsschat
  • flabellinaJG Feb 7 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Sorry to be late to the #NGSSChat party! I’m Jill from CA, President of @CAScience and a Regional Director with @K12Alliance and @EarlyImplement #NGSSChat #CANGSS #NGSS
  • BKd204Sci Feb 7 @ 9:15 PM EST
    DCIs need to relate to each other The coherence of them is vital to a storyline #ngsschat
    In reply to @revel56
  • FcboeSci Feb 7 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1: It is like an actor. If the actor sticks to a script, he/she is not original. If more active, more freedom and opportunities arise #ngsschat #flocoscience
  • wandabryant Feb 7 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Thank goodness for elementary teachers! #NGSSChat
    In reply to @thompsonabell
  • flabellinaJG Feb 7 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A1 What's really cool, is they aren't much different from the "conceptual flows" @K12Alliance has always worked with - but now we are adding in phenomena and being explicit about 3D #NGSSChat #CANGSS
  • LPugh3 Feb 7 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Latoya from Memphis. More following along tonight than chatting. Been a while since I’ve participated in #NGSSChat, but I love tonight’s topic. Hi All!
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Love the "teacher nudge..." #NGSSchat
    • nkeigher202 Feb 7 @ 9:14 PM EST
      A1 - Ownership. Traditional sequence: the T determines what comes next, Ss do what T says to do. Storyline: Ss' questions determine what comes next (and T may nudge them that way), they uncover knowledge they wanted. They own that knowledge - and it sticks. #ngsschat
  • ChienforSTEM Feb 7 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A1: A storyline is student-centered around their inquiry into a phenomena. The lessons that follow help students make sense of their inquiries to ultimately construct an a an explanation or evidence-based claim to their initial inquiry. #NGSSchat
  • NGSSchat - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Q2 - is coming out soon #ngsschat
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 7 @ 9:17 PM EST
    An important point in this message from @fastplants is to keep the intended learning goals in mind. Having students learn the goals is the whole point. Otherwise, we are just fooling around and having fun with no real purpose. #NGSSchat
    • fastplants Feb 7 @ 9:14 PM EST
      A1 Building on @Ted_NSTA 's response--it's also an intentionally designed learning journey that makes sense to the teacher-facilitator, too, helping to keep in the foreground intended learning goals. @NGSSchat
  • meganrelmore Feb 7 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Meg from Illinois joining late #ngsschat
  • BKd204Sci Feb 7 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Students have the ability to own a storyline They are just participants in traditional lesson structure #ngsschat
    In reply to @ChienforSTEM
  • NGSSchat - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Q2: There are differences in some of the common frameworks for writing #NGSS instructional sequences. One model is the @BSCSorg 5 E Model. Describe something you appreciate about units written in the 5E model. #NGSSchat
  • krademaker Feb 7 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Hi Everyone, Kristin from Il here, sorry I am late! #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Love this-- tell me more please :)... #NGSSchat
    In reply to @BKd204Sci, @revel56
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 7 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Can you elaborate @flabellinaJG ? Storylines feel very different to me than conceptual flow. #NGSSchat
    • flabellinaJG Feb 7 @ 9:16 PM EST
      A1 What's really cool, is they aren't much different from the "conceptual flows" @K12Alliance has always worked with - but now we are adding in phenomena and being explicit about 3D #NGSSChat #CANGSS
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Welcome Meg! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @meganrelmore
  • FcboeSci Feb 7 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2: it is like an active sequence. #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Love the emphasis on ownership! #NGSSchat
    • BKd204Sci Feb 7 @ 9:18 PM EST
      Students have the ability to own a storyline They are just participants in traditional lesson structure #ngsschat
      In reply to @ChienforSTEM
  • susan_german Feb 7 @ 9:20 PM EST
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Welcome Kristin! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @krademaker
  • bdevore Feb 7 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Bev DeVore-Wedding who rushed home last night only to discover it was Wednesday and today? Late. #ngsschat
  • sciresSoehl Feb 7 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Great idea! borrowed from @ArgumentDriven & asked why scientists use models & why understanding diffusion across membrane is important-- getting some students to make connection to other chemicals, drugs etc, how we would develop medicine/ tools to control that. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @MisterSci, @ArgumentDriven
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Welcome Bev! Thanks for joining #NGSSchat
    In reply to @bdevore
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 7 @ 9:21 PM EST
    If you are tardy, you get a detention unless you have a note from a teacher. :-) :-) :-) #NGSSchat
  • tjscience Feb 7 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2: We want students to engage with phenomena, explore their questions & new ideas, and explain their thoughts about things that happen in the world and problems that exist. The 5 E model sets up the kind of learning we are aiming for #NGSSchat
  • BKd204Sci Feb 7 @ 9:21 PM EST
    As I teach I need connect all my units w/each other so students can see how science relates and is connected. That is the coherence, showing the connections #ngsschat
    In reply to @TdiShelton, @revel56
  • Dora_Kastel Feb 7 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2 for a super traditional change-resistant teacher, 5E model to develop units can provide a concrete way to help them shift to a more student-centered classroom in a way that’s not as scary. #ngsschat
  • krademaker Feb 7 @ 9:22 PM EST
    I think the 5E model is a great introduction and a way to transition into the NGSS when you are not familiar with the shifts. It allows students to experience things on their own and figure things out. #ngsschat
  • MisterSci Feb 7 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Um, totally taking the conversation in this direction tomorrow. That connection is gold. Thank you Diana!!! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @sciresSoehl, @ArgumentDriven
  • tjscience Feb 7 @ 9:22 PM EST
    How does the 5E model help support this compared to a different model? #NGSSchat
    In reply to @Dora_Kastel
  • HeatherARich Feb 7 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2: I appreciate that the 5Es plans for Ss to evaluate and reflect on their learning. So often Ts just assess, and move on. Taking Dewey by his words, "we learn by reflecting on experience." #ngsschat
    • NGSSchat - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:18 PM EST
      Q2: There are differences in some of the common frameworks for writing #NGSS instructional sequences. One model is the @BSCSorg 5 E Model. Describe something you appreciate about units written in the 5E model. #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Can you elaborate on this Kristin for those new to the 5E? #NGSSchat
    In reply to @krademaker
  • frizzlerichard Feb 7 @ 9:22 PM EST
    This is a great point that I hadn't considered! #ngsschat
    In reply to @Dora_Kastel
  • JeanneBrunner Feb 7 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2: I love how the 5E model makes the explain part so explicitly important. Otherwise it's easy for teachers to "do the activity" but never make time for students to engage in the sensemaking. #NGSSchat
  • meganrelmore Feb 7 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2: I do like the Elaborate - and it coincides with what we do now when we introduce new related phenomena and have kids apply the same SEPs #ngsschat
  • bdevore Feb 7 @ 9:23 PM EST
    I learned about CORI-concept-oriented reading instruction and I call it the modified 5es for reading. I use it to introduce teachers to the 5es. https://t.co/H54ArcGbJs #ngsschat
  • revel56 Feb 7 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2: One thing I appreciate about 5E is that it follows a pattern. Patterns enhance implementation and learning... they are a cross cutting concept! #NGSSChat
  • susan_german Feb 7 @ 9:23 PM EST
    I am a huge fan of students constructing knowledge. Using the phenomenon introduction routine - I have (engage). Students set up (explore) by generating questions. We spend time (explore and explain) - ready to extend with a final project (sometimes engineering) #ngsschat
  • JMNorrisISP Feb 7 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2: We write all units using 5E lesson cycles because the components follow cognitive science of how people learn. I also find it conducive to introducing lesson phenomena in Engage when tgey typically might have been introduced after the explanation as an example. #ngsschat
    • NGSSchat - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:18 PM EST
      Q2: There are differences in some of the common frameworks for writing #NGSS instructional sequences. One model is the @BSCSorg 5 E Model. Describe something you appreciate about units written in the 5E model. #NGSSchat
  • DiSunflower717 Feb 7 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2: 5E embraces the idea of ss making observations and asking questions of a phenomena. Ss experiencing some activities, asking questions (engage and explore) before introducing any formal text (explain or elaborate). #ngsschat
    In reply to @NGSSchat, @BSCSorg
  • BKd204Sci Feb 7 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2 I appreciate the depth that the 5E model presents for the Ss It is not surface, but allows the Ss to push as deep as their experiences allow #ngsschat
  • Dora_Kastel Feb 7 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2 at the heart is it is having kids explore BEFORE explain. Not the other way around. This is the MOST difficult thing I see teachers struggle with. 5E helps them with that. #ngsschat
  • teachinthemagic Feb 7 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2: I really appreciate that the 5E really focuses on the students’ interests, ability to be hands on, understanding of the material, and looking back at their own learning. These parts of a lesson are so important #ctepscience #ngsschat
  • MisterSci Feb 7 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2: I appreciate the 5E emphasis on exploration! It reminds me to leave space to observe phenomena and gather data, so that students' schema can adjust through meaningful experiences - not disconnected vocabulary and content. #NGSSchat
  • tchingelements Feb 7 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2 This year while working with K2 Ts that were new to science, they love the 5E setup as the E terms are easier to understand. It makes science feel more approachable for them. #NGSSchat
    • NGSSchat - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:18 PM EST
      Q2: There are differences in some of the common frameworks for writing #NGSS instructional sequences. One model is the @BSCSorg 5 E Model. Describe something you appreciate about units written in the 5E model. #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:24 PM EST
    I agree-- the intentionality of providing opportunities for Ss to engage in the science and engineering practices and explore ideas before explanations are provided is HUGE! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @JeanneBrunner
  • krademaker Feb 7 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Sorry @Ted_NSTA , I will email you my note tomorrow. #ngsschat
    • Ted_NSTA Feb 7 @ 9:21 PM EST
      If you are tardy, you get a detention unless you have a note from a teacher. :-) :-) :-) #NGSSchat
  • quincygirls1 Feb 7 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A2: I love that Explore is at the beginning (before Explain). I think that is a big part of NGSS. It forces this old teacher to remember not to "teach" everything and let the student discover instead. #ngsschat
  • ChienforSTEM Feb 7 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A2: @BSCSorg’s 5E Model has completely shifted how I teach! Curriculum is what you teach & the pedagogy is how you teach it. Love that the Engage allowing Ss to tap into their prior knowledge & allows Ts to see misconceptions.The Evaluate is so metacognitively valuable! #NGSSchat
  • JeanneBrunner Feb 7 @ 9:25 PM EST
    I agree with this so much! I've had some great discussions with PSTs about moving phenomena earlier, instead of after explain. It's a big change from how they're used to teaching! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @JMNorrisISP
  • bdevore Feb 7 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Both engage students, then provide Ss opportunity to research, learn more, and communicate their findings. Both build on Ss interested connected to instructional content goals. #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Love the connection between the Elaborate of the 5E's (4th E) and the power of related phenomena (the WOW from a kid when what they understand connects to something in their world AND they can use their new learning to explain it! #NGSSchat
    • meganrelmore Feb 7 @ 9:23 PM EST
      A2: I do like the Elaborate - and it coincides with what we do now when we introduce new related phenomena and have kids apply the same SEPs #ngsschat
  • flabellinaJG Feb 7 @ 9:26 PM EST
    They attend to the coherence people are mentioning - and when they've been done well (which takes some experience with building them and teachers getting into the "heads" of kids), students do ask about the "next aspect" of what a teacher identified in the CF :) #ngsschat
    In reply to @Ted_NSTA
  • tjscience Feb 7 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A2: More importantly, how can we merge existing frameworks like talk moves in math, SS, & ELA to support elementary teachers in bringing science into instructional time in meaningful ways? #NGSSchat
  • wandabryant Feb 7 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A2 Engage=Using Phenomenon explore=SEPs, explain=explanatory models, evaluate=final explanatory model #ngsschat
  • nkeigher202 Feb 7 @ 9:26 PM EST
    I like to have students explain (initial model, maybe?), then explore, then explain some more (revised model)... what's important that the students are the ones explaining! Can be tough for teachers to resist explaining themselves. #ngsschat
    In reply to @Dora_Kastel
  • dramyhimes Feb 7 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A1 Great topic. For decades, I've been studying instructional models ... from Madeline Hunter to the 5 practices for orchestrating task-based discussions in science. Traditional lesson plans are like a ladder. Storylines are a road trip. @TdiShelton @Ted_NSTA #ngsschat #NGSS
  • sciresSoehl Feb 7 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A2: As I do homeostasis storyline from NGSS Bio teachers on FB, I see @Dora_Kastel's Idea that students explore b4 engage & explain @ various steps in process- b4 content, after some exploration & then final explain, each time evaluating their learning process! #NGSSchat
  • NGSSchat - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Q2 Follow-up: If you have used a 5E storyline, share some of your experiences or a link to the unit and some comments. #NGSSchat
  • flabellinaJG Feb 7 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A2 5Es attend to what research understands about how people learn. My favorite part is the emphasis on student doing, thinking, and explaining BEFORE input #NGSSChat
  • frizzlerichard Feb 7 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A2: I love the idea of the 5E model; I'm searching for a group that has put together resources that seamlessly revisit the anchoring phenomena though #ngsschat
  • krademaker Feb 7 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Most 5E lessons are set up in a way that allows students to engage with and explore (figure out)phenomena (usually). Although it is not set up like a storyline, I it a way for teachers new to NGSS a way to get their feet wet. #ngsschat
  • JMNorrisISP Feb 7 @ 9:29 PM EST
    It is a big shift. We have to resist the urge to explain the phenomenon during Engage. The 5E model is great for having kids develop and refine a model of a phenomenon as they figure out more in the cycle. #ngsschat
    In reply to @JeanneBrunner
  • HeatherARich Feb 7 @ 9:29 PM EST
    I'm running PD on Interdisciplinary Talk Moves next month. It is important for our #ElemNGSS teachers to know the skills and pedagogy is transferrable! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @tjscience
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 7 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Hmmm. that chart looks familiar. #NGSSchat
    • NGSSchat - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:28 PM EST
      Q2 Follow-up: If you have used a 5E storyline, share some of your experiences or a link to the unit and some comments. #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:29 PM EST
    I am in love with the 5 practices for orchestrating discussions in science right now! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @dramyhimes, @Ted_NSTA
  • LPugh3 Feb 7 @ 9:29 PM EST
    When I think about ensuring equity the engage and explore is so essential because it provides students to participate in a shared experience(s). So when we get to the explain, all students should be able to participate. #NGSSChat
    • Dora_Kastel Feb 7 @ 9:23 PM EST
      A2 at the heart is it is having kids explore BEFORE explain. Not the other way around. This is the MOST difficult thing I see teachers struggle with. 5E helps them with that. #ngsschat
  • krademaker Feb 7 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Most 5E lessons are set up in a way that allows students to engage with and explore (figure out)phenomena (usually). Although it is not set up like a storyline, it is a way for teachers new to NGSS a way to get their feet wet. #ngsschat
  • JMNorrisISP Feb 7 @ 9:30 PM EST
    I just made a near identical post! Feels good to be on the right track in my thinking! #ngsschat
    In reply to @nkeigher202, @Dora_Kastel
  • tjscience Feb 7 @ 9:30 PM EST
    I'd love to chat about this! This is a main goal of my work with Elementary PSTs & ISTs #NGSSchat
    In reply to @HeatherARich
  • Dora_Kastel Feb 7 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A2 All of @NewVisionsNYC science curricula uses this model: https://t.co/JNDcab5HRJ #ngsschat
    • NGSSchat - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:28 PM EST
      Q2 Follow-up: If you have used a 5E storyline, share some of your experiences or a link to the unit and some comments. #NGSSchat
  • JMNorrisISP Feb 7 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A2: Check out our #mySci 5th grade unit on the NGSS page! #ngsschat https://t.co/EIV14XdMfC
  • susan_german Feb 7 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A2 Follow up: I use a 5 E storyline for reason for the seasons. Students try to figure out where a picture was taken. As they think about where, they start to wonder what temperature is in certain areas - which opens things to some data analysis... #ngsschat
  • MisterSci Feb 7 @ 9:32 PM EST
    This sounds awesome - where can I find more info about these 5 practices for orchestrating discussions? #ngsschat
    In reply to @TdiShelton, @dramyhimes, @Ted_NSTA
  • tchingelements Feb 7 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A2B A 5E mindblowing moment I’ve had was shifting away from making it a linear sequence like we did with “the” scientific method. Allowing time to float around the E’s during an instructional sequence. Stepping outside that box was a “duh” moment for me 😂 #ngsschat
  • NGSSchat - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Q3 Another storyline framework is the @nextgenstoryli1 approach. Describe something you appreciate about this approach. #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Q3 here on #NGSSchat
  • Dora_Kastel Feb 7 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A2 the equip reviewed disruptions in ecosystems unit uses the 5E model: https://t.co/CGsPkgtRtE #ngsschat
  • NGSSchat - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:33 PM EST
    MASSIVE APOLOGIZE FOR THE Q2 FOLLOW UP. i SENT THE WRONG IMAGE. - YELLING AT MYSELF -@2FOOTGIRAFFFE #NGSSCHAT
  • MisterSci Feb 7 @ 9:33 PM EST
    This. Is. Awesome. #ngsschat
    In reply to @LPugh3
  • MelissaW012017 Feb 7 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Q2: question, is the 5E model meant to be a station rotation set of activities or are they supposed to be single class activities that builds on previous “E”? #NGSSChat
    In reply to @NGSSchat, @BSCSorg
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 7 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A3: The centrality of MAKING SENSE of PHENOMENA! #NGSSchat
  • KRenaeP Feb 7 @ 9:34 PM EST
    I'm not sure when this happened but somehow some have concluded that engage=phenomena. I guess I understand the misconception when both phenomena-based instruction and using 5E model lessons are both new to the teacher. #thinkingoutloud #ngsschat
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 7 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Smart Teacher! #NGSSchat
    • MelissaW012017 Feb 7 @ 9:32 PM EST
      Lol. Guess I get detention. Wait, I’m a teacher, can I write me own note? Lol!
      In reply to @Ted_NSTA
  • krademaker Feb 7 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A3 I love the way the storylines build from row to row. I also love how at the end of each row it lists what the Ss should have figured out. Make it easy to develop assessment tasks based on student need #ngsschat
  • kirandpurohit Feb 7 @ 9:35 PM EST
    Hello #NGSSchat ! This is Kiran from NYC, joining a little late.
  • MsVickScience Feb 7 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A3 Coherency!!! Going back to DQB along the way to determine where we go next. Ss start to make connections and build that puzzle one piece at a time. #NGSSchat
  • susan_german Feb 7 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A3: If we are referring to the phenomenon introduction routine, I am a huge fan. I find the question, "Where else have you seen something similar?" to be a powerful question for students. All of my students can contribute an answer to this question. #ngsschat
  • kirandpurohit Feb 7 @ 9:36 PM EST
    I totally agree -- the guidance around what students are figuring out is really helpful. In my experience, knowing the key ideas to support the class in figuring out is so hard to do. #NGSSchat
    • krademaker Feb 7 @ 9:35 PM EST
      A3 I love the way the storylines build from row to row. I also love how at the end of each row it lists what the Ss should have figured out. Make it easy to develop assessment tasks based on student need #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:36 PM EST
    Here you go! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @MisterSci, @dramyhimes, @Ted_NSTA
  • KRenaeP Feb 7 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Ah, great question. #ngsschat
    • Dora_Kastel Feb 7 @ 9:36 PM EST
      What else would engage be if not phenomenon?
      In reply to @KRenaeP
  • amylkelly81 Feb 7 @ 9:37 PM EST
    So true, storyline units really are a road trips, and if you have ever taken a road trip with kids you know there will be frequent unexpected stops and detours. These detours in learning are linked to student questioning, engagement and connections #NGSSchat
    In reply to @dramyhimes, @TdiShelton, @Ted_NSTA
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Welcome Kiran! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @kirandpurohit
  • revel56 Feb 7 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A3: The storyline focus is on coherence between lessons... leading Ss to deeper understanding; digging deeper, developing ideas, applying ideas, recognizing more implications of those ideas... I think a storyline can be an orchestrated sequence of 5E lessons. #NGSSChat
  • Dora_Kastel Feb 7 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A3 I agree with what’s been said. Naming what Ss have figured out, how that leads to the next Q (and investigation). #ngsschat
  • frizzlerichard Feb 7 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A3: I love the way this approach is firmly rooted in student sense-making. I wish the PD for this approach was more attainable and accessible for our teachers. They want to make the shift.... but... but... but... #ngsschat
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 7 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A design problem. #ngsschat
  • JMNorrisISP Feb 7 @ 9:37 PM EST
    We often use Engage to introduce the phenomenon bc Engage is partly about sparking interest. However, it’s also a time to gather prior knowledge. It’s also at the beginning of the cycle, making it a key point for introducing phenomena. #ngsschat
    In reply to @KRenaeP
  • krademaker Feb 7 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A3 I love that the storylines use phenomena to drive instruction and allow so many opportunities for student driven questions and academic discourse! Student do the science and build an understanding! #ngsschat
  • FcboeSci Feb 7 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A3: It is a perpetual process. Always room for improvement. Teachers can reflect and tweak as needed. Independent from outdated textbooks #ngsschat #flocoscience
  • MisterSci Feb 7 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Thank you!!! #ngsschat
    In reply to @dramyhimes, @TdiShelton, @Ted_NSTA
  • DiSunflower717 Feb 7 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A3: story line makes real world connections and gives purpose to the learning by making connections to the phenomena. Ss are taking more ownership for their learning on the journey. #ngsschat
    In reply to @NGSSchat, @nextgenstoryli1
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 7 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A design problem. #NGSSchat
    • Dora_Kastel Feb 7 @ 9:36 PM EST
      What else would engage be if not phenomenon?
      In reply to @KRenaeP
  • flabellinaJG Feb 7 @ 9:38 PM EST
    This excerpt from the California Science Framework might help #NGSSChat #CANGSS
    In reply to @MelissaW012017, @NGSSchat, @BSCSorg
  • BKd204Sci Feb 7 @ 9:38 PM EST
    The method has to start and end with the phenomena #ngsschat
    In reply to @krademaker
  • LPugh3 Feb 7 @ 9:39 PM EST
    I do agree with you! However, I’ve always learned that Engage should be phenomenon driven. Whether it is an anchoring or an investigative phenomenon. The support come with assisting Ts in identifying phenomenon. It doesn’t have to be grand. #NGSSChat
    • KRenaeP Feb 7 @ 9:34 PM EST
      I'm not sure when this happened but somehow some have concluded that engage=phenomena. I guess I understand the misconception when both phenomena-based instruction and using 5E model lessons are both new to the teacher. #thinkingoutloud #ngsschat
  • wandabryant Feb 7 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A3 student agency is front and center using this approach. Ss questions on DQB regarding anchor and investigative phenomena +looking forward and looking back routines insure Ss input. Ss put pieces together through productive talk. #NGSSChat
  • HeatherARich Feb 7 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A3: Firstly, the phenomena hooks the Ss in. Then it allows S to construct their understandings a step at a time, letting their Qs set the pace. #ngsschat
  • tchingelements Feb 7 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A3 I appreciate the way the stories continue to revisit the same phenomenon, giving Ss time to grapple with the science ideas. #ngsschat
  • NGSSchat - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Q3 Follow-up: If you have used an approach like the one here in this template storyline, share some of your experiences or a link to the unit and some comments. #NGSSchat
  • fastplants Feb 7 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Yes-can see that happening because it may often be one-in-the-same. Most problematic is when the Engage is simply an attention-getter without direct connection to the Explore (which may also lack opps to generate evidence relevant to the learning goals/Explain). #ngsschat
    In reply to @KRenaeP
  • nkeigher202 Feb 7 @ 9:40 PM EST
    ...And when they can make sense of the anchoring phenomenon, they can (feel empowered to!) take an educated stab at making sense of their own related phenomenon... Love it! #ngsschat
    In reply to @susan_german
  • KRenaeP Feb 7 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Phenomena cannot only live in 'engage'. It's purpose is more than being a 'hook'. #ngsschat
    In reply to @LPugh3
  • JMNorrisISP Feb 7 @ 9:41 PM EST
    The way we do this is with a summary section that states key takeaways at the beginning of each lesson. It’s like @Ted_NSTA and @fastplants said- learning goals matter, and should be clear for teachers. #NGSSchat
    • kirandpurohit Feb 7 @ 9:36 PM EST
      I totally agree -- the guidance around what students are figuring out is really helpful. In my experience, knowing the key ideas to support the class in figuring out is so hard to do. #NGSSchat
      • krademaker Feb 7 @ 9:35 PM EST
        A3 I love the way the storylines build from row to row. I also love how at the end of each row it lists what the Ss should have figured out. Make it easy to develop assessment tasks based on student need #ngsschat
  • tjscience Feb 7 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A3: The storyline approach builds strongly off of the research on how effective summary tables are - they help teachers and students organize their ideas in academically productive ways #NGSSchat
  • MsVickScience Feb 7 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A3 I've had the opportunity to pilot 2 storylines - the moment I knew this was making an impact was when a S said she feels like a scientist and gets it. Was teaching at alternative HS at the time #NGSSchat
  • krademaker Feb 7 @ 9:43 PM EST
    At first the many Ss struggled, they also had to relearn how to learn. As we progressed they really stepped up and this gave ALL my Ss opportunities to share and participate. Total classroom game changer. #ngsschat
    • NGSSchat - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:40 PM EST
      Q3 Follow-up: If you have used an approach like the one here in this template storyline, share some of your experiences or a link to the unit and some comments. #NGSSchat
  • LPugh3 Feb 7 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Most definitely! That is the sole reason why Ts need support. Because if the lessons beyond the phenomenon doesn’t help students to figure out the phenomenon then it becomes a hook. The phenomenon must drive Ss to continue to ask questions. It should drive the learning #NGSSChat
    In reply to @KRenaeP
  • wandabryant Feb 7 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Thus anchor and investigative phenomena #NGSSChat
    In reply to @KRenaeP, @LPugh3
  • MisterSci Feb 7 @ 9:43 PM EST
    I don't have much knowledge of the storyline approach or these summary tables - where can I learn more? #ngsschat
    In reply to @tjscience
  • sciresSoehl Feb 7 @ 9:44 PM EST
    still working on getting to this place-- but have been starting to rewrite unit plans to emulate first few columns. "Parking lot" poster paper and post its of Ss questions are getting used more frequently in class to uncover Ss thinking. #ngsschat
    • NGSSchat - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:40 PM EST
      Q3 Follow-up: If you have used an approach like the one here in this template storyline, share some of your experiences or a link to the unit and some comments. #NGSSchat
  • NGSSchat - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Q4 is coming soon #ngsschat
  • nkeigher202 Feb 7 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Yes! Yes! Empowering our students to be (and feel like) young scientists! #ngsschat
    • MsVickScience Feb 7 @ 9:42 PM EST
      A3 I've had the opportunity to pilot 2 storylines - the moment I knew this was making an impact was when a S said she feels like a scientist and gets it. Was teaching at alternative HS at the time #NGSSchat
  • NGSSchat - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Q4 What are some of the criteria or variables you consider or have considered when choosing a template or framework to write an #NGSS or 3D instructional sequence? #NGSSchat
  • LPugh3 Feb 7 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Another thing is 5E is not a linear framework. We may end back up at the engage before the phenomenon is figured out. I think that is a misconception that some Ts have about 5E. #NGSSChat
    In reply to @KRenaeP
  • tjscience Feb 7 @ 9:45 PM EST
    https://t.co/nK4zNCWn6o #NGSSchat
    In reply to @MisterSci
  • tchingelements Feb 7 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Agreed!! #NGSSchat
    • KRenaeP Feb 7 @ 9:40 PM EST
      Phenomena cannot only live in 'engage'. It's purpose is more than being a 'hook'. #ngsschat
      In reply to @LPugh3
  • sciresSoehl Feb 7 @ 9:46 PM EST
    yes this is not only a shift for Ts but also Ss-- to actually be asked what THEY want to know? And to design together how they get there! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @krademaker
  • BKd204Sci Feb 7 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A4 A resource/template/framework has to be intentional with the coherence It has to connect the DCI thru the use of SEPs and CCCs #ngsschat
  • 2footgiraffe Feb 7 @ 9:47 PM EST
    I would love if there was a step by step, year by year plan for NGSS implementation. - This year change this aspect of your lessons, next year change that aspect of your lesson - 4-5 years (give or take 4-5 years) you are an NGSS. #ngsschat
  • MsVickScience Feb 7 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A4 Does the phenomenon speak to the Ss? Will they care about it? Have they experienced it? Picking the right phenomenon is key & can help jumpstart the process #NGSSchat
  • KRenaeP Feb 7 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Uh oh. That's some interesting stuff. I wonder what school leaders think about that. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @LPugh3
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 7 @ 9:47 PM EST
    One thing about all these tools for unit design. (5E, Storyline, etc.) THEY ARE TOOLS, NOT RULES. You should learn why they are designed the way they are, so you know when to use them, and when to do something else. #NGSSchat
  • BKd204Sci Feb 7 @ 9:48 PM EST
    The more connection the Ss have to the #phenomenon the better When the are invested they will have better questions #ngsschat
    In reply to @MsVickScience
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:48 PM EST
    Great Q! What is so crazy & magical is that you can predict their Qs & plan as usual- key= getting Ss to ask the right kinds of Qs (about the WHY or HOW a phenomena happens in the world) The anchoring phenomena routine here is key to these Qs https://t.co/jiDGKZU0zk #NGSSchat
    In reply to @MelissaW012017
  • susan_german Feb 7 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A4: Simplicity - I am a bit busy (like everyone else). #ngsschat
  • kirandpurohit Feb 7 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A4 - I think it's critical 4 the framework to push me out of older mindsets. The 5E model works so well for my colleagues and the teachers we work with, I think, because it pushes designers to look at the whole flow of learning differently. NOT just fill in the blank. #ngsschat
  • 2footgiraffe Feb 7 @ 9:48 PM EST
    It would help if I had a set group of lessons I do every year. Every year different. #ilikereinventingthewheel #ngsschat
  • FcboeSci Feb 7 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A4: Many factors. Student IEP, costs for materials, time constraints, #ngsschat #flocoscience
  • sciresSoehl Feb 7 @ 9:48 PM EST
    let me just say- thank you- for asking the Q-- so many of us at various points here and need to support each other and make available resources and be transparent about just how long this takes to make shift. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @MisterSci, @tjscience
  • wandabryant Feb 7 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A4 I’d leave the writing to the experts then I’d tweak it to meet my Ss needs. #NGSSChat
  • krademaker Feb 7 @ 9:48 PM EST
    Good point Ted, I think many people forget that. #ngsschat
    • Ted_NSTA Feb 7 @ 9:47 PM EST
      One thing about all these tools for unit design. (5E, Storyline, etc.) THEY ARE TOOLS, NOT RULES. You should learn why they are designed the way they are, so you know when to use them, and when to do something else. #NGSSchat
  • tjscience Feb 7 @ 9:48 PM EST
    I miss all my CT people as well - I am currently working on an interdisciplinary elementary-specific PD pathway for pre & inservice teachers. It has been needed for a long time #NGSSchat
    In reply to @DiSunflower717, @HeatherARich
  • LPugh3 Feb 7 @ 9:49 PM EST
    🤗🤗🤗 #NGSSChat
    • Ted_NSTA Feb 7 @ 9:47 PM EST
      One thing about all these tools for unit design. (5E, Storyline, etc.) THEY ARE TOOLS, NOT RULES. You should learn why they are designed the way they are, so you know when to use them, and when to do something else. #NGSSchat
  • MisterSci Feb 7 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Or sometimes students think they are elaborating by extending learning on one concept, only to find they were REALLY unearthing and exploring a new concept to investigate moving forward! *mind blown* #NGSSchat
    In reply to @KRenaeP, @LPugh3
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 7 @ 9:49 PM EST
    We do a great disservice to teachers when we don't help them understand why certain things are good to use. Many Ts are using things like exit cards and bellringers blindly because no one has explained their purpose. #NGSSchat
    • Ted_NSTA Feb 7 @ 9:47 PM EST
      One thing about all these tools for unit design. (5E, Storyline, etc.) THEY ARE TOOLS, NOT RULES. You should learn why they are designed the way they are, so you know when to use them, and when to do something else. #NGSSchat
  • HeatherARich Feb 7 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A4: Is it understandable to the Ts? Does it give enough guidance and freedom so classes can meet the objectives in their unique ways? Does it promote constructivist learning about a natural phenomena that means something to these Ss? #NGSSchat
    • NGSSchat - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:44 PM EST
      Q4 What are some of the criteria or variables you consider or have considered when choosing a template or framework to write an #NGSS or 3D instructional sequence? #NGSSchat
  • tchingelements Feb 7 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A4 When planning with Ts I want them to always be asking: what are Ss doing and how are Ss thinking about the science concept. Whether it’s 5E, Storylines, or Gather-Reason-Communicate, it’s important we’re intentional with the dimensions. #ngsschat
  • NGSSchat - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Q5 coming out soon. #ngsschat
  • JeanneBrunner Feb 7 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A4: I think simplicity is important for people just learning to write lessons for #NGSS. Also how explicit it is in incorporating phenomena. #NGSSchat
  • MisterSci Feb 7 @ 9:51 PM EST
    So happy to ask the questions! This group has so much knowledge and experience; I'm grateful I can take advantage and learn from everyone! #ngsschat
    In reply to @sciresSoehl, @tjscience
  • revel56 Feb 7 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A4: I find it imperative to consider the science I want my students to wrestle with and connect that science with a phenomenon that will illicit grappling. I then attempt to construct a coherent sequence of lessons (each with a LL phenomenon if I can connect one #NGSSChat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:51 PM EST
    I am with you! It is a lot-- but I find it really exciting too because it is a great journey and because even the small shifts really matter a lot and change the energy of the classroom-- Please keep asking Qs-- it helps everyone! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @MelissaW012017
  • DiSunflower717 Feb 7 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A3: Biggest challenge for my ss has been accepting it's ok to not know the answer when you leave class.Understanding learning is a process and it's ok to be wrong. ss know I won't answer a question and add to dqb. Ss do adapt and like approach. #ngsschat
    • NGSSchat - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:40 PM EST
      Q3 Follow-up: If you have used an approach like the one here in this template storyline, share some of your experiences or a link to the unit and some comments. #NGSSchat
  • NGSSchat - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:52 PM EST
    Q5 part 2 For example, do you start with the performance expectations? The Science ideas or disciplinary core ideas? An engaging phenomenon? Something else? Please explain WHY you start there. #NGSSchat
  • MsVickScience Feb 7 @ 9:53 PM EST
    Totally agree, or worrying about having the right answer at that moment. Changing their mindset can sometimes be tricky! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @DiSunflower717
  • hhereau Feb 7 @ 9:53 PM EST
    #NGSSchat A4 I love the storyline tools from @nextgenstoryli1 the 5 routines focus on S interest, equity, and coherence while ensuring the Ss are doing the figuring out. Ss use practices to uncover pieces of the science ideas, to dig deeper and finally to put it all together
  • fastplants Feb 7 @ 9:53 PM EST
    As we want our ss to understand, too: models can be useful tools, and they have limitations and constraints #NGSSchat
    • Ted_NSTA Feb 7 @ 9:47 PM EST
      One thing about all these tools for unit design. (5E, Storyline, etc.) THEY ARE TOOLS, NOT RULES. You should learn why they are designed the way they are, so you know when to use them, and when to do something else. #NGSSchat
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 7 @ 9:53 PM EST
    Exactly! #NGSSchat Have to keep they PURPOSE in mind. (The "why" is important, right @TdiShelton ?) #NGSSchat
    • susan_german Feb 7 @ 9:51 PM EST
      So, similar to models - built to explain something but never perfect
      In reply to @Ted_NSTA
  • sciresSoehl Feb 7 @ 9:53 PM EST
    At this point @wandabryant I agree-- finding storylines that work and tweaking or changing as needed! It's a timeconsuming process to write your own! #NGSSchat
    • wandabryant Feb 7 @ 9:48 PM EST
      A4 I’d leave the writing to the experts then I’d tweak it to meet my Ss needs. #NGSSChat
  • BKd204Sci Feb 7 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A5 The resource I use has an #anchoringphenomenon for each unit This gives the students a question they can both work toward & build upon Starting there allows the SEPs & CCCs to be more impacting on student growth #ngsschat
  • KRenaeP Feb 7 @ 9:54 PM EST
    Oooooh, this is a good question! I'm glad I dropped in tonight. #ngsschat
    In reply to @NGSSchat
  • krademaker Feb 7 @ 9:54 PM EST
    You have to consider the DCI progressions and really dig into what they say. This will help you build a coherent sequence and be useful when considering an anchor phenomena . #ngsschat
    • NGSSchat - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:44 PM EST
      Q4 What are some of the criteria or variables you consider or have considered when choosing a template or framework to write an #NGSS or 3D instructional sequence? #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:55 PM EST
    We are glad too! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @KRenaeP, @NGSSchat
  • Dora_Kastel Feb 7 @ 9:55 PM EST
    Plug for #NSTA19 conference: if your want to learn about resources to help w/ using 5E to develop NGSS units, @JBintzBSCS has a #fivetools session during the NGSS@NSTA forum Friday and @CindyGay & @DaveRandle_AMNH will be leading sessions all day on Sat in Rm 224 ! #ngsschat
  • MsVickScience Feb 7 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A5 It just depends - I've started with phenomena, PE bundles, DCIs... There's no one way or wrong way - go with what inspires you! #NGSSchat
  • sciresSoehl Feb 7 @ 9:56 PM EST
    this is exactly why for every lab/experiment, Ss must explain the possible exp errors AND limitations of the model! Getting them to resalize models are great for understanding phenomena or concepts but always see improvement! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @fastplants
  • wandabryant Feb 7 @ 9:56 PM EST
    Plus, I’m still learning how to teach 3D better. Navigating productive talk alone is time consuming but worth it. #NGSSChat
    In reply to @sciresSoehl
  • BKd204Sci Feb 7 @ 9:56 PM EST
    The DCIs are the target with the SEPs and CCCs being the arrows the students use to hit the learning outcome #ngsschat
    In reply to @krademaker
  • kirandpurohit Feb 7 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A5 - I don't think we've worked on a single unit where we figured out the phenomenon then the PE cluster then the learning sequence. Instead, it's like we think we've figured it out, then we ask some kids and they're like "nope that's not interesting." #ngsschat
  • FcboeSci Feb 7 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A5: I have been inconsistent here. I have always started with DCI. Probably too dependent here. I start with DCI because I know what is expected for students. From there, I try to find engaging phenomenon. Still a work in progres but I am determined to get there. #ngsschat
  • NGSSchat - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:56 PM EST
    Q6 Please share a favorite resource for organizing or thinking about #NGSS instructional sequences and WHY you recommend it. #NGSSchat
  • JeanneBrunner Feb 7 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A5: I tend to start with DCIs, figuring out what is really being targeted - and then identify relevant phenomenon. But I can see it working other ways. #NGSSchat
  • DiSunflower717 Feb 7 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A5: We unpack the standards to identify all Ss need to know. Sticky note process write ?s. Sort ?s into themes. Activities to support theme.Look at criteria checklist for good anchor phenomena and equip rubric for phenomena. #ngsschat
    • NGSSchat - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:52 PM EST
      Q5 Part 1 - One of the key innovations of the Framework is the focus on phenomena to drive instructional sequences. How do you begin the storyline process that incorporates as phenomena as a driver of instruction?
  • BKd204Sci Feb 7 @ 9:57 PM EST
    That is a great point! The how depends on the Ts level of #NGSS understanding & what the background knowledge is of the Ss #ngsschat
    In reply to @MsVickScience
  • susan_german Feb 7 @ 9:57 PM EST
    I tend to start with the phenomenon then spend time writing my own performance expectations - I think of DCI, SEP, and CCC in three cups. I pull what I need to make my own. Thinking of the phenomenon first allows me to find things interesting to students. #ngsschat
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 7 @ 9:57 PM EST
    #NGSSchat Question 5: One of the key innovations of the Framework is the focus on phenomena to drive instructional sequences. How do you begin the storyline process that incorporates as phenomena as a driver of instruction? See the Picture below:
  • HeatherARich Feb 7 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Agree with this. Also, what is current for Ss? Earthquake nearby? Soil erosion on the playground? Lego craze affecting the 2nd grade? I try to wrap this into the decision of which phenomena to choose. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @MsVickScience
  • meganrelmore Feb 7 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A5P2: Anchoring phenomena - something to get them to ask questions and then to ask questions of their questions. #ngsschat
  • revel56 Feb 7 @ 9:58 PM EST
    A5: It depends on the purpose. But I tend to start with DCIs. What learning (content) best serves the students at a particular level... #NGSSChat
  • tchingelements Feb 7 @ 9:58 PM EST
    A5 I always start with a Phenomenon - it gives us a direction to go. #ngsschat
  • kirandpurohit Feb 7 @ 9:58 PM EST
    A5 And on top of all the complexity of the design process iterations, there's the issue that many students (esp now) come in with a vast range of experience, so we grapple with how much to (re)teach MS and K-5 PEs too! #ngsschat
  • sciresSoehl Feb 7 @ 9:58 PM EST
    YES! I completely agree! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @teachearthspace, @wandabryant
  • fastplants Feb 7 @ 9:58 PM EST
    A5 It's an iterative process; definitely not linear, and with many different entry points, depending on the context in which the design process is happening. #NGSSchat
    • NGSSchat - Moderator Feb 7 @ 9:52 PM EST
      Q5 part 2 For example, do you start with the performance expectations? The Science ideas or disciplinary core ideas? An engaging phenomenon? Something else? Please explain WHY you start there. #NGSSchat
  • tjscience Feb 7 @ 9:58 PM EST
    A6: I have been working on a MASSIVE rework on https://t.co/Im0kHEnirC (@NGSSphenomena ) to share more curricular resources & supports for phenomena-based instruction, hope this is ready soon! #NGSSchat
  • Dora_Kastel Feb 7 @ 9:59 PM EST
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 7 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Wait a minute! There are CONFERENCES you can go to to learn more about this stuff? Awesome... I should check that out. #NGSSchat