#txhsfbchat Archive
A chat for high school football coaches. Topics discussed: coaching methods, program development, and impacting our athletes.
Wednesday February 8, 2017
9:00 PM EST
txhsfbchat
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Feb 8 @ 9:00 PM EST
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Feb 8 @ 9:00 PM EST
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Feb 8 @ 9:00 PM EST
Q1: Do kids today want to play football in college or be recruited?
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- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:01 PM EST
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txhsfbchat
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:02 PM EST
Your moderators tonight are
@coachfisher_rp
and
@SRFBshowcase
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coachmikerowe
Feb 8 @ 9:02 PM EST
Mike Rowe
@rocorifootball
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CoachChadJ
Feb 8 @ 9:02 PM EST
A1: a little of both. Some kids are in love with the attention of recruiting. Smell just want to play ball
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txhsfbchat
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:03 PM EST
Let's check in! Please welcome
@SRfbshowcase
then tell us who you are, where you coach, and what you coach.
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CoachShiffman
Feb 8 @ 9:03 PM EST
A1: some want to play but unfortunately some just care about the spectacle and the show involved nowadays
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coachboyneDHS
Feb 8 @ 9:03 PM EST
Greg Boyne , OC, Destrehan HS, Louisiana
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coachfisher_rp
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:04 PM EST
I am Chris Fisher, OL coach and the custodian of
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CoachJoshHadden
Feb 8 @ 9:04 PM EST
Josh Hadden. 8 years HS Asst. 2 years NS HC. Currently looking. Aiken, SC
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CoachEddieYoung
Feb 8 @ 9:04 PM EST
Eddie Young HC Lajeunesse HS Windsor ON
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CoachAdams9
Feb 8 @ 9:04 PM EST
Tony Adams Portland Tennessee olb/Fb coach
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txhsfbchat
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:05 PM EST
Thank you for
@SRfbshowcase
for leading us tonight and helping kids find ways of furthering their education!
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CoachChadJ
Feb 8 @ 9:05 PM EST
Chad Johnson D-line Recruiting Coordinator at Spring HS Spring, TX
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ecust23
Feb 8 @ 9:05 PM EST
Eric Custer HC auburndale wi
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CoachJoshHadden
Feb 8 @ 9:05 PM EST
A1: Kids with bigger offers seem to want a spectacle. Other kids simply looking for a way out current life situation.
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CoachP_
Feb 8 @ 9:05 PM EST
Preston Potter-LBs Priceville HS-Alabama
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txhsfbchat
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:06 PM EST
Q1: Do kids want to get recruited or play football in college?
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CoachJoshHadden
Feb 8 @ 9:06 PM EST
That should be MS HC *
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ecust23
Feb 8 @ 9:06 PM EST
A1: I think it's some of both. Kids want the attention and some kids want it just to be about the football.
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CoachMcKenna
Feb 8 @ 9:06 PM EST
Kyle McKenna, HFC, Brooklyn Tech HS, NY & I have a SNOW day tomorrow!
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CoachAdams9
Feb 8 @ 9:07 PM EST
A1 all kids like being recruited and I tell them to enjoy the process, but they better love the game, its a different world
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Thamannjr
Feb 8 @ 9:07 PM EST
A1 Alot just want to be recruited, they like the attention. You have some that really want to change their life and play.
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CoachHesterSMHS
Feb 8 @ 9:07 PM EST
Chance Hester. LB Coach. Currently looking for my next adventure. 👀. Baton Rouge, LA.
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coachboyneDHS
Feb 8 @ 9:07 PM EST
A1) unfortunately a lot of kids are more caught up in the attention of recruiting than anything else.
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coachfisher_rp
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:07 PM EST
A1: Some kids truly love it and want to keep playing. Some want the attention. Some just want a pathway to an education
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SSHS_CoachCoons
Feb 8 @ 9:07 PM EST
Jon Coons DC Saratoga Springs HS New York
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CoachBlacha
Feb 8 @ 9:07 PM EST
Phillip Blacha OL
@Bearcat_HS_FB
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CoachU_
Feb 8 @ 9:08 PM EST
A: kids are actually more fascinated with the recruiting process than actually playing in college
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CoachGinn
Feb 8 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1: They Love recruiting process, better really love hard work & playing football
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SRfbshowcase
Feb 8 @ 9:09 PM EST
Great comments here is what I have discovered
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kdawgswift
Feb 8 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1: I think the social media drug and the boasting tells you being recruited is more important Look at attrition rate
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coachmitchell17
Feb 8 @ 9:09 PM EST
John Mitchell DBs Midwest City HS Midwest City OK. What it is?what it was? What it be like? I missed you guys!!!!
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CoachBlacha
Feb 8 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1: I would say some of both. 10 years ago probably strictly to play. Now it's a popularity contest
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CoachAdams9
Feb 8 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1 even worse some coaches get kids signed just so they can show their program off rather than finding the athlete a good fit.
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CoachMcKenna
Feb 8 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1) 2:1 ratio. The successful ones are usually overachievers
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CoachAdams9
Feb 8 @ 9:11 PM EST
they worry about signing on signing day rather than going some where that can help them with life.
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CoachU_
Feb 8 @ 9:12 PM EST
Coach Upshaw, Running Backs, Midwest City HS, MWC, OK
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coachmitchell17
Feb 8 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: The kids want 2 B apart of the recruiting circus and the signing day spectacle, but don't want the grind of football.
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CoachBlacha
Feb 8 @ 9:12 PM EST
yeah wish I had more power in that say so. One I will but it's hard doing that as an assistant
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CoachRmcD60
Feb 8 @ 9:12 PM EST
Ryan Mcdonald OL Mooresville (IN)
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SRfbshowcase
Feb 8 @ 9:12 PM EST
Q2: Does admin understand the role coaches play in sending kids to college to play their sport and to be a general student
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LCHS_Mustangs
Feb 8 @ 9:13 PM EST
Retweeted srfbshowcase (
@SRfbshowcase
): Great comments here is what I have discovered
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jrmyhanson
Feb 8 @ 9:13 PM EST
late to the party, Jeremy Hanson, HC/OC Blair-Taylor, WI
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CoachRmcD60
Feb 8 @ 9:14 PM EST
Kids want the attention of big time recruiting those who are at smaller levels truly love the game and want to play
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txhsfbchat
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:14 PM EST
Q2: Does admin understand the coaches' role in sending kids to college for athletics and education?
@SRfbshowcase
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CoachChadJ
Feb 8 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1: I've seen kids pick a school just so they could be part of the signing day at school. Instead of making the best choice
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LCHS_Mustangs
Feb 8 @ 9:14 PM EST
Retweeted srfbshowcase (
@SRfbshowcase
): I know I am early but here is a bit about me
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CoachRmcD60
Feb 8 @ 9:14 PM EST
A2 no they do not understand the constant contact their is with coaches and making sure they are getting what they need
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CoachU_
Feb 8 @ 9:14 PM EST
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In my experience alumni are more concerned with W/L than the recruiting process
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CoachJoshHadden
Feb 8 @ 9:15 PM EST
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CoachJoshHadden
Feb 8 @ 9:13 PM EST
Have to say I've seen this. Kids that need hand-holding in hometown sign somewhere you never heard of & back in town by Spring.
CoachBlacha
Feb 8 @ 9:15 PM EST
A2: good question
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coachfisher_rp
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:15 PM EST
A2: I hope so. I believe the more kids getting recruited brings attention to more schools for general student to attend
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CoachAdams9
Feb 8 @ 9:16 PM EST
A2: I can't speak for other places but the jobs I have had, they do. They support all athletics and helping the students.
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CoachRmcD60
Feb 8 @ 9:16 PM EST
A2 but it's a different world for those who have never been in on the process
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ecust23
Feb 8 @ 9:17 PM EST
A2: I don't think they understand what all goes inthe recruiting process & how often coaches are getting in touch with the kids.
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jrmyhanson
Feb 8 @ 9:17 PM EST
A2) I wonder if college coaches know how important the HS coach is in the process..I've been very unimpressed with D2/D1 coaches
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CoachChadJ
Feb 8 @ 9:17 PM EST
A1: my admin does. I've had real convo w them abt early id low psat and sat/act scores, offering tutorial classes, and workshops
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coachmitchell17
Feb 8 @ 9:17 PM EST
A2: Admin is just as clueless as the kids & parents R. They don't fully understand the process & what it's about.
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CoachRmcD60
Feb 8 @ 9:18 PM EST
A2 as a coach have to be available for when a guy can get into school and see kids
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CoachJoshHadden
Feb 8 @ 9:18 PM EST
A2: Considering it's a numbers game for most admins, I'd like to think they want in on touting college-bound kids.
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Coach_Timmerman
Feb 8 @ 9:19 PM EST
Jake Timmerman OL coach @ Northside in GA. A little late as I got caught up in the Air Raid chat but I can't forget about
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coachfisher_rp
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:19 PM EST
Yes! For HCs that teach classes, its tough to get out of class to track down a kid for a recruiter. Supportive Admin is a must!
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CoachRmcD60
Feb 8 @ 9:18 PM EST
A2 as a coach have to be available for when a guy can get into school and see kids
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SRfbshowcase
Feb 8 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2: what about regular students that don't play ball in college
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SRfbshowcase
Feb 8 @ 9:21 PM EST
really hard for coaches in other states that do not work at school
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mrcoachhouston
Feb 8 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2: our admin supports coaches in being part of continuing their education. Makes it easier when given that freedom
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txhsfbchat
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:14 PM EST
Q2: Does admin understand the coaches' role in sending kids to college for athletics and education?
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CoachChadJ
Feb 8 @ 9:23 PM EST
A2: admin is also supportive giving me a schedule that allows me to be available to meet with college coaches.
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CoachGinn
Feb 8 @ 9:24 PM EST
A2: our admin. Does, & have a counselor that partners with us to give our kids every opportunity available!
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Coach_Timmerman
Feb 8 @ 9:24 PM EST
A2) We are fortunate to have very supportive admins and while they may not know everything they are very in touch w/ the process
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CoachChadJ
Feb 8 @ 9:24 PM EST
A2: con't also I have 1 period just to work on recruiting everyday.
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SRfbshowcase
Feb 8 @ 9:25 PM EST
This should be the minimum for a 6A HS unfortunately I think you are in minority
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CoachChadJ
Feb 8 @ 9:24 PM EST
A2: con't also I have 1 period just to work on recruiting everyday.
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coachfisher_rp
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:26 PM EST
A2: Because we know our kids and spend extra time with them, it is easy to write recommendations & help them get to their school
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Coach_Timmerman
Feb 8 @ 9:27 PM EST
A2) Part 2 - Our county curriculum doesn't really allow for early enrollees but this year they helped work it out for a guy
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CoachJoshHadden
Feb 8 @ 9:28 PM EST
HFC's in my school district teach a minimum of 4 periods a day unless AD, then 3.
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txhsfbchat
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:31 PM EST
Q3: Do players understand the difference in getting a full scholarship and playing in college?
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SRfbshowcase
Feb 8 @ 9:31 PM EST
Q3: Do players understand the difference in getting a full ATH scholarship and playing FB in college?
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CoachRmcD60
Feb 8 @ 9:32 PM EST
A3 I believe they do but many just see the hype that comes with an "Offer"
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CleatEliteAnfro
Feb 8 @ 9:32 PM EST
A3: A lot of players believe it's D1 or nothing and even at that level they do not understand a PWO or Walk on difference.
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coachmitchell17
Feb 8 @ 9:33 PM EST
A3: Some do, but a majority of them don't.
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Coach_Timmerman
Feb 8 @ 9:33 PM EST
A3) We've had to clear that up over the past year. An in-state university with a club team likes to extend "offers" to players
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coachfisher_rp
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:34 PM EST
A3: No. I believe too many think that if they sign, then they should play right away.
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CoachChadJ
Feb 8 @ 9:34 PM EST
A3: most don't and neither do parents. Why is important to have recruiting seminars for both parents and kids
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CleatEliteAnfro
Feb 8 @ 9:35 PM EST
A3: Many players and their parents do not understand the difference between an "offer" and financial aid offers.
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coachmitchell17
Feb 8 @ 9:35 PM EST
A3: Pt 2- Some of the kids don't understand that playing @ the next level is still playing after UR HS career is done.
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CoachAdams9
Feb 8 @ 9:36 PM EST
A3 they don't, and college offers can be tricky if you don't educate them. They can end up basically paying to play.
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coachfisher_rp
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:36 PM EST
A3: If a school mentions red-shirt or if there is a couple players in their position, they will lose interest and go elsewhere
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CoachGinn
Feb 8 @ 9:36 PM EST
A3: most do, I'm quick to help them understand cost, some schools offer $2,000 & cost $30,000 a year, be careful.
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Thamannjr
Feb 8 @ 9:37 PM EST
A3: Some do but its our job to be honest with them and TEACH them how the game works. No matter how much $ you get its a JOB
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SRfbshowcase
Feb 8 @ 9:37 PM EST
There is a huge stigma with D3 that I just don't get. They get their education and they get to play
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ecust23
Feb 8 @ 9:37 PM EST
A3: I don't think they understand the difference but I just had a talk with my kids that will be playing college next year.
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CoachJoshHadden
Feb 8 @ 9:37 PM EST
A3: Some do, some don't. They don't get their "offer" covers their books & they're on the hook for the rest.
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CoachMcKenna
Feb 8 @ 9:38 PM EST
A2) admins need to understand clearinghouse a bit better in NY. Many classes are flagged bc they do not have correct coding
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txhsfbchat
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:40 PM EST
Q4: Can you tell when a parent pushes their kid to play college ball and a kid does not desire to play?
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CoachAdams9
Feb 8 @ 9:41 PM EST
A2 I tell kids colleges don't make money by giving it away they have to get it some how. Usually from athletes.
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ecust23
Feb 8 @ 9:41 PM EST
A4: I had a kid like that last year.The dad was far more into the recruiting process than the player.He just wanted to play ball
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CoachAdams9
Feb 8 @ 9:42 PM EST
Usually when they are taking them on every visit they can find. Making the decision for them.
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CoachGinn
Feb 8 @ 9:42 PM EST
A4:haven't had to deal with this yet, our kids love to play the sport & we talk about it as an opportunity to further your ED.
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CoachChadJ
Feb 8 @ 9:43 PM EST
A4: absolutely. Had a parent a few yrs ago really push his son to play. Kid only wanted to play if it was at an Ivy league
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Thamannjr
Feb 8 @ 9:43 PM EST
A4: Easy, kids dont lift after season or even look like they enjoy ball but then parents, dm, email, text asking about schools
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CoachJoshHadden
Feb 8 @ 9:43 PM EST
A4: I'm consistently amazed at the amount of $$ parents dish out prior 2 college hoping 4 scholarship. Could've paid 4 college!
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SRfbshowcase
Feb 8 @ 9:44 PM EST
A4:
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CoachChadJ
Feb 8 @ 9:44 PM EST
A4: con't kid couldn't quite get into Ivy, had tons of d3 want him. Went academic to UT instead
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CleatEliteAnfro
Feb 8 @ 9:45 PM EST
A4: cont...They usually begin to stop asking questions and stop showing up to "optional" events and ultimately have no drive
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coachfisher_rp
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:45 PM EST
A4: Definitely. Some will only accept certain levels of school for their child and miss opportunities
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Coach_Timmerman
Feb 8 @ 9:45 PM EST
A4) Haven't had to experience this yet. We mostly deal with dialing back kids' expectations & visions of grandeur of playing D1
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txpatriot66
Feb 8 @ 9:45 PM EST
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almost instantly - I make the kid come to me for recruiting. I work through the kid & inform the parents. Many not on same page
CoachChadJ
Feb 8 @ 9:47 PM EST
.
@CoachJoshHadden
see parents drop load of $ on camps/trainers. Kid isn't D1, get him a tutor for sat/act, high test score =D3
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coachboyneDHS
Feb 8 @ 9:47 PM EST
A4) Hardest ones are when parents want it worse than the kid
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txhsfbchat
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:48 PM EST
The tutor will pay off more in the long run!
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CoachChadJ
Feb 8 @ 9:47 PM EST
.
@CoachJoshHadden
see parents drop load of $ on camps/trainers. Kid isn't D1, get him a tutor for sat/act, high test score =D3
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coachmitchell17
Feb 8 @ 9:49 PM EST
A4: I told a kid U would B "DA" if U turn down the $$$ available from this small school 2 pay 2 go 2 the bigger prominent school
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txhsfbchat
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:50 PM EST
Q5: What professional development activities need to be developed to help coaches with small college recruiting?
@SRfbshowcase
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CoachU_
Feb 8 @ 9:50 PM EST
A3) they understand the verbage, but not the point. If you live ball, you play ball
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CoachRmcD60
Feb 8 @ 9:51 PM EST
A5 just need to network and attend fairs if around your area meet as many coaches = more opportunities for your players
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CoachU_
Feb 8 @ 9:52 PM EST
A5) it is very apperant when these situations occur
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coachfisher_rp
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:52 PM EST
A5: Agree with
@CoachRmcD60
Small schools need to build connections with campuses and coaches
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SRfbshowcase
Feb 8 @ 9:53 PM EST
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CoachAdams9
Feb 8 @ 9:53 PM EST
I think being able to network with college coaches and finding out what they need and how we can work together.
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CoachGinn
Feb 8 @ 9:53 PM EST
A5: Would love to network & to help with e mail list. Always changes & hard to keep current alone!
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CoachRmcD60
Feb 8 @ 9:54 PM EST
Create a network where you can reach out to get help if needed and help others as well
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coachfisher_rp
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:54 PM EST
A5: I think small schools should invite high school coaches for a clinic weekend, spring ball practice, etc. Build relationships
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CoachU_
Feb 8 @ 9:54 PM EST
A5) I would love to see local colleges, from different levels, go to HS & host a recruiting clinc
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Thamannjr
Feb 8 @ 9:55 PM EST
A5: Network, constant communication and learn the academic side of the game. That is what sets the good ones apart.
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SRfbshowcase
Feb 8 @ 9:55 PM EST
I know
@CoachChadJ
has a great pipeline small college story.
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CoachRmcD60
Feb 8 @ 9:56 PM EST
@coachfisher_rp
high school coaches have to take the initiative as well and reach out
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txhsfbchat
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:57 PM EST
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has enjoyed the knowledge shared by
@Coach_BHarris
and
@CoachSteiger
both from D3 schools who love helping coaches and players
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Thamannjr
Feb 8 @ 9:57 PM EST
A5: Ive always wanted to speak at a clinic about the recruiting process. Volunteered to do a district professional development
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coachfisher_rp
- Moderator
Feb 8 @ 9:58 PM EST
Agreed. We have to be willing to get to their schools, just like they do whatever they can to get out to our schools
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CoachRmcD60
Feb 8 @ 9:56 PM EST
@coachfisher_rp
high school coaches have to take the initiative as well and reach out
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In reply to @coachfisher_rp