#nwtosachat Archive
#nwtosachat seeks to connect Teachers on Special Assignments (TOSAs) in the Northwest of the US and beyond. Please join us on Tuesdays at 8PM Pacific.
Tuesday May 17, 2016
11:00 PM EDT
nwtosachat
May 17 @ 11:01 PM EDT
Time to get started!! With our moderator Ryan Booth
@edubooth
@MsCZen
@cheer4tech
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https://t.co/2MsjtJDcfm
MsCZen
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:01 PM EDT
Christine Frantzen, Future Ready Learning Coach, Central Kitsap Mrs. Pacman is my game!
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https://t.co/GL4qEFuD5o
cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:03 PM EDT
Brandi Snow, Future Ready Coach, Central Kitsap SD, favorite game is cribbage
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https://t.co/J4BU4PqzmZ
cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:03 PM EDT
Welcome back
@T3TechieTeacher
we have missed you!!!
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CustomerIsFirst
May 17 @ 11:04 PM EDT
Nate Brown, Service Manager. Not sure what is meant by district but I love Super Mario Bros
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https://t.co/efuqpUC3yQ
MsCZen
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:05 PM EDT
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@EduBooth
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annhayesbell
May 17 @ 11:06 PM EDT
Ann Hayes-Bell, Librarian, Edmonds. solitaire, yahtzee, blokus!
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RobinHenrikson
May 17 @ 11:06 PM EDT
Robin Henrikson Asst Prof
@SPUSchoolofEd
hmm.maybe Sequence
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EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:06 PM EDT
0/2
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...LOL
#ModeratorFail
nwtosachat
May 17 @ 11:06 PM EDT
I love how we are all missing the "a"tonight!!
#nwtosAchat
nwtosachat
May 17 @ 11:07 PM EDT
Q1:
@EduBooth
@MsCZen
@cheer4tech
#nwtosachat
https://t.co/BbHAPsS7mu
cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:07 PM EDT
Welcome
@annhayesbell
@RobinHenrikson
glad you are all here!!
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T3TechieTeacher
May 17 @ 11:08 PM EDT
Kara, Kennewick district, dean of students/instructional coach, Solitaire
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RobinHenrikson
May 17 @ 11:08 PM EDT
A1: immediate gratification?
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EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:09 PM EDT
A1 - Multiple Entry Points, Acceptance of Failure, choice, immediate feedback loop, multiple trials
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MsCZen
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:09 PM EDT
A1: Games present students with a challenge to and provide a clear goal.
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cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:09 PM EDT
A1: fast pace, ability to try multiple times with little consequences, rewards of earning coins or "prizes" interactive
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EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:10 PM EDT
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@RobinHenrikson
feedback loop is most likely instant the ability to try again after failing and apply new learning is as well
#NWtosachat
cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:10 PM EDT
@EduBooth
@RobinHenrikson
there really is a lot of critical thinking with video games!
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#notagamergirlyet
EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:10 PM EDT
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@CustomerIsFirst
please stay, we can learn from anyone and everyone.
#CrashersWelcome
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MsLaurenMertz
May 17 @ 11:11 PM EDT
A1: Clear goals, small challenges, do overs
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annhayesbell
May 17 @ 11:11 PM EDT
A1. Personal success. Immediate feedback. Trial & error. "Practice makes perfect"
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cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:11 PM EDT
@MsLaurenMertz
do overs are so key! and with the sense of accomplishment
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RobinHenrikson
May 17 @ 11:12 PM EDT
@EduBooth
great way to think about it- feedback loop- I totally see that!
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EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:12 PM EDT
#NWTOSACHAT
- its 20 minutes long, but its the holy grail of Game Based
https://t.co/rkELH6XKI4
MsCZen
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:13 PM EDT
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@EduBooth
Saving to watch later! Thanks!
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EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:13 PM EDT
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@cheer4tech
@MsLaurenMertz
one things games do best is allow players to try and try again while applying new learning
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EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:13 PM EDT
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@MsCZen
I have watched it 20+ times and learn something new everytime, its our base of all our GBL Trainings
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RobinHenrikson
May 17 @ 11:14 PM EDT
@annhayesbell
the trial and error with few ramifications is key!
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cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:15 PM EDT
@batchelorchica
@backlund2
feel free to join in!
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nwtosachat
May 17 @ 11:15 PM EDT
Q2:
@EduBooth
@MsCZen
@cheer4tech
#nwtosachat
https://t.co/4sVV9NuY6Q
MsLaurenMertz
May 17 @ 11:16 PM EDT
@annhayesbell
I agree. Trial and error is expected. Not proficiency the first time.
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EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:17 PM EDT
@MsLaurenMertz
@annhayesbell
how do we better incorporate trial and error into our students or teachers thinking
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MsCZen
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:17 PM EDT
A1: I loved this game
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https://t.co/lSU4oiJ1lR
cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:18 PM EDT
Q2: (take 2!)
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Failure is not only acceptable in Games, but expected. How can we incorporate a safe place to fail in our lessons?
EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:18 PM EDT
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@MsCZen
ahhh
#OregonTrail
, be the banker, buy lots of bullets and go hunting...and of course
#AlwaysFordTheRiver
#NWTOSACHAT
nwtosachat
May 17 @ 11:19 PM EDT
Q2: (take 2!)
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Failure is not only acceptable in Games, but expected. How can we incorporate a safe place to fail in our lessons?
EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:19 PM EDT
#NWTOSACHAT
my favorite during the school days
https://t.co/Jncb9LCXkM
cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:19 PM EDT
@EduBooth
@MsCZen
hunting is the best part!!!!
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RobinHenrikson
May 17 @ 11:19 PM EDT
@MsCZen
me too! Not another broken axle!
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MsCZen
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:20 PM EDT
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@EduBooth
Loved hunting! Always lost a kid to dysentery :(
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#oregontrail
EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:20 PM EDT
Q2 - Good lessons have failure built in, we need to allow students/teachers to fail in a safe place
#NWTOSACHAT
cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:20 PM EDT
Poor billy died of dysentery...
#oregontrailproblems
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CustomerIsFirst
May 17 @ 11:20 PM EDT
A2 - Games should not always be competitive in nature. Allow students to work together for a common cause
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MsLaurenMertz
May 17 @ 11:20 PM EDT
@EduBooth
@annhayesbell
I model with my kids when I am trying/learning something new. I make mistakes. No big deal.
#nwtosachat
EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:21 PM EDT
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@CustomerIsFirst
most successful games i have used in class are cooperative in nature.
#Timeline
#Pandemic
#CastlePanic
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EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:22 PM EDT
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@MsLaurenMertz
@annhayesbell
I love watching 'teacher leaders' fail in front of a group, while modeling the idea that its OK
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MsCZen
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:22 PM EDT
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@EduBooth
Where in the World in Carmen San Diego! Love that game! Oh how Google Maps could've helped!
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annhayesbell
May 17 @ 11:22 PM EDT
A2. Provide options for different kinds of successes. If/Then...
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EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:23 PM EDT
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@MsCZen
is it possible to read the words "Where in the World is Carmen San Diego" without singing,
#IDontThinkSo
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MsCZen
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:24 PM EDT
A2: Don't always be focused on who has the best score. Collaborate
#nwtosachat
https://t.co/VwPNAgCD2T
cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:24 PM EDT
@EduBooth
@MsCZen
nope!!
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EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:24 PM EDT
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@MsCZen
not all games need to have a scoreboard at all...
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nwtosachat
May 17 @ 11:25 PM EDT
Q3:
@EduBooth
@MsCZen
@cheer4tech
#nwtosachat
https://t.co/Oh0lHlq4xC
jutecht
May 17 @ 11:25 PM EDT
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A2: Are we talking about game-based learning or gamification of education. Two different approaches.
cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:26 PM EDT
@MsLaurenMertz
@EduBooth
@annhayesbell
I love teaching kids that mistakes are great! Many put a negative spin on it
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#failforward
EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:26 PM EDT
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@jutecht
both, they are different, but both fall under a similar umbrella
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RobinHenrikson
May 17 @ 11:27 PM EDT
A3 as a former math teacher I'd say to provide multiple entry points to any task
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jutecht
May 17 @ 11:27 PM EDT
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A3: Not sure about the "eventual goal" part. The goal was usually set by the game.
MsCZen
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:27 PM EDT
A3: Allow Ss to be the creators, give them the goal, but allow them to find a path providing coaching along the way.
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annhayesbell
May 17 @ 11:28 PM EDT
A3. Options! Options! Options!
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EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:28 PM EDT
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@jutecht
badges, sandbox games, open world, allow the uses to determine which goals they are working toward at a time
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cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:29 PM EDT
A3: It is about giving choice and voice. Allowing Ss to select how they learn and demonstrate mastery
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RobinHenrikson
May 17 @ 11:29 PM EDT
@MsCZen
providing the coaching is so important! Not, "let me show you how"
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EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:30 PM EDT
@RobinHenrikson
@MsCZen
doing it for them never helped anyone
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cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:31 PM EDT
@EduBooth
@jutecht
I want to work badges in to our Professional learning next year
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#Goals
RobinHenrikson
May 17 @ 11:32 PM EDT
@EduBooth
agree! I admit I had to take over when my daughter showed me Sugar Sugar. Addicted.
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EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:32 PM EDT
@cheer4tech
@jutecht
we have found success offering digital badges that teachers can show off in email signature
#NWTOSACHAT
MsCZen
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:33 PM EDT
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@annhayesbell
@edubooth
I really need to figure a way to incorporate badges.
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RobinHenrikson
May 17 @ 11:33 PM EDT
@cheer4tech
I would love to hear how you do that!
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cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:33 PM EDT
@RobinHenrikson
That is on the "do do list" for next year... let's collaborate this summer!!
#nwtosachat
#BetterTogether
nwtosachat
May 17 @ 11:34 PM EDT
Q4:
@EduBooth
@MsCZen
@cheer4tech
#nwtosachat
https://t.co/aORUCrCF5X
EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:36 PM EDT
A4 - Multiple entry points, lessons should always connect to other lessons as well as the real world
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MsCZen
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:38 PM EDT
A4: Use tech tools to create ways for Ss to access support and extend learning, Ss don't need to all be on the same page
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RobinHenrikson
May 17 @ 11:39 PM EDT
A4: a follow up question- how to do this authentically with adult learners?
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cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:39 PM EDT
A4: That is a great question.. math seems that way naturally & most sequencing is that way too but not necessarily as timely
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cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:39 PM EDT
@RobinHenrikson
YES!!! and get them to come back and not be overwhelemd, but not bored
#thestruggleisreal
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annhayesbell
May 17 @ 11:40 PM EDT
A4. I guess I see this as teaching. Providing opportunities for Ss to learn more than the day before.
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PascalDresse
May 17 @ 11:40 PM EDT
A4: our goal shld be to introduce all necessary skills (lev1), fine tune said skills (lev 2), then allow stds to test skills out
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EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:40 PM EDT
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@RobinHenrikson
sequencing, we focus questioning strategies that lead to Socratic Seminars
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annhayesbell
May 17 @ 11:41 PM EDT
Connected to learning from the day before. Connecting it to what they'll learn tomorrow.
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MsCZen
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:42 PM EDT
A4 (2): Teach S the process of inquiry and then let them lead
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Here is a funny...no offense
https://t.co/CgOIqQ0lGe
EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:42 PM EDT
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@PascalDresse
is it possible to do this while always focusing on the 'big question' or the oncoming 'boss battle'
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nwtosachat
May 17 @ 11:42 PM EDT
Q5:
@EduBooth
@MsCZen
@cheer4tech
#nwtosachat
https://t.co/0M0ldXRyLB
PascalDresse
May 17 @ 11:44 PM EDT
@EduBooth
possibly not, but maybe it comes down to the skills we teach, rather than the content we teach. Just a thought.
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jutecht
May 17 @ 11:45 PM EDT
@cheer4tech
@EduBooth
Love badging for students and teachers. We have a badging system at
@EduroLearning
for all our classes.
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cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:45 PM EDT
A5: meeting kids at their level, it's that "sweet spot" in learning. plus building a relationship with Ss so they take the risks
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EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:45 PM EDT
A5 - Rigor its the key to everything, not just ours students, but our adult learners as well we have to keep pushing
#NWTOSACHAT
cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:46 PM EDT
@jutecht
@EduBooth
@EduroLearning
That is so awesome!!
#nwtosachat
#everyonelovesbadges
MsCZen
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:46 PM EDT
A5: The sweet spot! Productive struggle combined with authenic engagement! Trying to reach all Ss
#nwtosachat
https://t.co/2crCo5eW0M
cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:46 PM EDT
@EduBooth
Yes! We must push ourselves as adults to be uncomfortable too!
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MsCZen
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:47 PM EDT
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@cheer4tech
Great minds think alike!
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PascalDresse
May 17 @ 11:47 PM EDT
A5: I think it comes down 2 relevance. How often do kids say 'why do we need 2 learn this' I switch off if I don't see the point
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cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:47 PM EDT
If things were easy, kids wouldn't react like this. They need to be appropriately challenged!
#nwtosachat
https://t.co/v6Im5RxM7N
annhayesbell
May 17 @ 11:47 PM EDT
@cheer4tech
Yes, timing needs to be nuanced. Gaming allows for many tries for success. We need to provide the same for our Ss.
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jutecht
May 17 @ 11:47 PM EDT
#Nwtosachat
A5: That's the question and the answer lies in personalized learning. Much like games each person needs to have their own path.
jutecht
May 17 @ 11:48 PM EDT
@PascalDresse
Agreed. How many kids are disengaged in the learning process?
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EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:48 PM EDT
@cheer4tech
Man I hated that game!!! would scare the crap out of me
#NWTOSACHAT
cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:49 PM EDT
@EduBooth
My mom would be mad because pieces would go missing and she'd find them with her barefeet...
#nwtosachat
PascalDresse
May 17 @ 11:50 PM EDT
@jutecht
far too many kids are disengaged, until something sparks their interest. But do we miss those moments?
#nwtosachat
cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:51 PM EDT
@PascalDresse
@jutecht
Ts have to be aware & reflecting on their practice to make sure Ss are engaged and how to make it happen!
#nwtosachat
nwtosachat
May 17 @ 11:51 PM EDT
Q6:
@EduBooth
@MsCZen
@cheer4tech
#nwtosachat
https://t.co/Vjti7W3gba
annhayesbell
May 17 @ 11:53 PM EDT
A5 Could focus of our lessons sometimes be about the process and sometimes about the outcome to keep Ss engaged?
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cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:54 PM EDT
@annhayesbell
often the journey is much more important than the destination. This is true for learning as well!
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EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:55 PM EDT
A6 - This was the question I was most excited to read answers on. It's an interesting idea not sure how to utilize it
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cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:55 PM EDT
A6: it's all about scaffolding appropriately for ALL Ss. giving more "clues" to those that need it, and more puzzles for others
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cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:56 PM EDT
variety in lessons, again choice in how the learning happens. it is different for every student. (and every T)
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annhayesbell
May 17 @ 11:57 PM EDT
A6. Making sure what Ss do need is at hand or accessible (or they know how to access it. Use the Help menu!
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MsCZen
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:57 PM EDT
A6: Focus on process, teach Ss the process first with support, like when they watch screencasts of video games, then play alone
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EduBooth
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:57 PM EDT
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@annhayesbell
how can we create or maintain a help menu for our teachers to access as they need it.
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PascalDresse
May 17 @ 11:58 PM EDT
A6: We could ask the students what information they would like/need, rather than telling them what we think they need.
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MsCZen
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:58 PM EDT
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@PascalDresse
YES! And teaching them to ask those questions is key
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cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:58 PM EDT
@PascalDresse
I love this!!!! It makes Ss think!!!
#nwtosachat
nwtosachat
May 17 @ 11:59 PM EDT
Thanks
@EduBooth
for moderating!! Join us next week for
@Jyoung1219
as we discuss Math and
#edtech
!
#nwtosachat
https://t.co/HaryVwmvuP
cheer4tech
- Moderator
May 17 @ 11:59 PM EDT
Wow, it's over already!?!?!?
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