#5thchat Archive
#5thchat is for people interested in chatting about topics in education, especially as they relate to Grade 5. The goal is to connect people who enjoy learning & sharing, plus supporting & creating partnerships worldwide!
Tuesday November 8, 2016
8:00 PM EST
briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:00 PM EST
Welcome everyone. Tonights topic is instructional dialogue. Please introduce yourself.
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pearse_margie
Nov 8 @ 8:00 PM EST
@doneawhooo
@gee_clark_
Thought you'd like this!
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PaulSolarz
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Nov 8 @ 7:57 PM EST
Please join
@briandurgin
in 3 MINUTES for
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. Topic: "Instructional Dialogue." ALL GRADES WELCOME!
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
Brian from SE MN MS EL teacher.
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iteach5m
Nov 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
Brenda from NJ
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PSusice
Nov 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
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Pam from northern NY. Spent 2 funtastic days with
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and student centered learning.
jeremyskura
Nov 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
Jeremy Skura 5th math and science Zionsville, IN
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pearse_margie
Nov 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
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Hi Margie from PA Math Coach K-12 Jumping in for a bit tonight
PaulSolarz
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Nov 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
I'm Paul Solarz, a 5th grade teacher from Arlington Heights, Illinois. Happy Election Day everyone!
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PaulSolarz
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Nov 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
That's a lot of acronyms & abbreviations Brian! :)
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PegGrafwallner
Nov 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
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Peg, Instructional Coach/Reading Specialist from MKE. Moderated my 1st chat last nite & loved it!
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I'll be back!
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
thanks for joining
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
trying to keep it short.
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dlcoachbrooke
Nov 8 @ 8:04 PM EST
Brooke Sims. Digital Learning Coach. Coppell ISD. Former 4th/5th grade math/science educator.
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
What are your thoughts about how we learn?
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
welcome. Hope you enjoy tonight's topic.
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Terencewhite23
Nov 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
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I am Terence White and I teach 7th grade science teacher from Aurora, IL
PaulSolarz
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Nov 8 @ 8:08 PM EST
QUESTION 1 - (See image).
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
What are your thoughts about how we learn?
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iteach5m
Nov 8 @ 8:08 PM EST
Transformed R classroom into polling place. Kids made voting booths ballots created electoral college,counted vote Learn by doing
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:08 PM EST
Or about how our students learn
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pearse_margie
Nov 8 @ 8:08 PM EST
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A1 often starts with that moment where things just don't jive, then the "huh?"moment, & that magical connection& learning occurs
PaulSolarz
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Nov 8 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1 - Everyone learns a little differently, but most learn best when they are actively involved & making decisions on their own.
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LausanneLearn
Nov 8 @ 8:09 PM EST
I'm Seth Burgess Dir of LLI in Memphis Tn and love tech for student centered learning. Ready to explore!
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iteach5m
Nov 8 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1 Kids learned because they were interested and curious. They took ownership of the learning and understanding.
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iteach5m
Nov 8 @ 8:08 PM EST
Transformed R classroom into polling place. Kids made voting booths ballots created electoral college,counted vote Learn by doing
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Terencewhite23
Nov 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
Question 1. I believe we learn best of we get to talk to people about what we read.
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PegGrafwallner
Nov 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
@briandurgin
As a visual lrnr & Instruc Coach/Rdg Spec, I always provide 3 or more ways to do/process S work
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jeremyskura
Nov 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
A1: I agree with the pix. I struggle with too much telling before the doing.
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jessrenea15
Nov 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
Hi, I'm a college student new to the tweet chat education scene
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:11 PM EST
what about students who learn by memorizing and talking with others?
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LausanneLearn
Nov 8 @ 8:11 PM EST
Q1 Learning based on motivated engagement. How do we create curiosity?
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
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PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Nov 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
Welcome Jessica! Just include A1 with your answer to the first question and the hashtag
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& then everyone can read it!
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LausanneLearn
Nov 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
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How do we model Blooms in that space between research and sharing?
briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:11 PM EST
what about students who learn by memorizing and talking with others?
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PegGrafwallner
Nov 8 @ 8:15 PM EST
No, when I model/co-teach a Sci lesson 4 ex., I might provide 2 diff graphic organizers, a spkg component & a projbasd
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pearse_margie
Nov 8 @ 8:15 PM EST
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A1:Learning needs to be pursued, constructed, &solidified by the learner.Collaboration can def play a key role in making connection
jessrenea15
Nov 8 @ 8:15 PM EST
A1: I feel like I learn best when I am interacting, whether that be having a conversation about something or doing an activity
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yankeesgirl4ev
Nov 8 @ 8:16 PM EST
A1: Instructional dialogue involves reflection of teaching and learning practices!
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iteach5m
Nov 8 @ 8:16 PM EST
A1 Curious to read responses... I know that I am trying to talk less; let my kids talk more and figure it out on their own
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:16 PM EST
awesome a speaking and prom component great.
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:17 PM EST
A1: to me instructional dialogue is the langue that is used in the content area
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LausanneLearn
Nov 8 @ 8:18 PM EST
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and be prepared for unexpected results. Best part when I learn something from them
iteach5m
Nov 8 @ 8:16 PM EST
A1 Curious to read responses... I know that I am trying to talk less; let my kids talk more and figure it out on their own
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:18 PM EST
what specifically?
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PegGrafwallner
Nov 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
A1 Whn T & Ss use lang of the discipline to discuss/brainstorm/apply/modify/implement work that demonstrates understanding
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:20 PM EST
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jessrenea15
Nov 8 @ 8:21 PM EST
sorry if this seems obvious but exactly what do you mean by "instructional dialogue"?
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yankeesgirl4ev
Nov 8 @ 8:22 PM EST
A2: Students need instructional dialogue to provide feedback to other students/teachers and communicate needs, thoughts, thinking!
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iteach5m
Nov 8 @ 8:22 PM EST
A2; Instr. dialogue provides scaffolding, language & process for students to start making connections & allow learning 2 occur
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dlcoachbrooke
Nov 8 @ 8:22 PM EST
A2: Accountable talk among Ss is vital. Ts must scaffold for effective dialogue and to ensure all parties listen and talk.
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Suz_Gibbs
Nov 8 @ 8:22 PM EST
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We all use consistent vocabulary and help bring it into everyday talk.
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:23 PM EST
the vocabulary and language needed to teach and learn in a discipline
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PegGrafwallner
Nov 8 @ 8:24 PM EST
A2 S confer in language/terminology of discipline. In math, Ss lrn correct math language so they can discuss math-all Ss givn opp
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LausanneLearn
Nov 8 @ 8:24 PM EST
A2: Ownership creates relevance and importance. Success creates prestige for students. Fear of failure diminishes.
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:25 PM EST
how is it structured?
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iteach5m
Nov 8 @ 8:25 PM EST
So sorry I have to run! Can't wait to read the chat later. Lots to think about so far. Thanks
@briandurgin
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
how is this done?
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jeremyskura
Nov 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
A2: gives the class a common language. Set the tone by using the vocab correctly
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jessrenea15
Nov 8 @ 8:27 PM EST
A2: Its helpful to use simple language, unless you are teaching vocab, using language students don't comprehend confuses them
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
Next question in one minute.
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
is this used across the grade level?
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
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Suz_Gibbs
Nov 8 @ 8:31 PM EST
A1. Oh, boy, I wish I could say “yes”, but unfortunately, that would be untrue.
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:32 PM EST
that would be great if you did.
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jessrenea15
Nov 8 @ 8:32 PM EST
A3: I've never taught a lesson around language but I am interested in hearing different approaches
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PSusice
Nov 8 @ 8:33 PM EST
A1. Gr 3-6 meet weekly, talk about content including language.
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Suz_Gibbs
Nov 8 @ 8:33 PM EST
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Yes, it would be so much better. Unfortunately, everyone is not on board.
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:33 PM EST
important for all learners. That is what you are teaching in all disciplines.
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:34 PM EST
how do you schedule this? Is it a k-6 school?
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PSusice
Nov 8 @ 8:35 PM EST
PreK12, Common planning time.
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:35 PM EST
maybe you can be he leader and show the difference it makes with students.
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Suz_Gibbs
Nov 8 @ 8:35 PM EST
A3. Purposeful plans to introduce/reinforce language during our dialogue. I do, we do, you do.
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LausanneLearn
Nov 8 @ 8:36 PM EST
A3: Too many variables to answer in a tweet. Level? Goal? Time? Content depth?
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PSusice
Nov 8 @ 8:36 PM EST
played around today in a workshop: student first, then class, then teacher.
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dlcoachbrooke
Nov 8 @ 8:37 PM EST
A3: I think you design for learning around concepts and big ideas. Language is a facet of the bigger picture.
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:37 PM EST
What about sentence stems and using in more than one modality. Speak write read repeat and learn it.
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PSusice
Nov 8 @ 8:38 PM EST
I'd like to add movement of some sort.
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:38 PM EST
what about students who don't have the language to explain? How do you scaffold? ELs?
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jeremyskura
Nov 8 @ 8:39 PM EST
A3: I make sure I can use prior knowledge as much as possible. This helps reinforce what we learned & what we will learn
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:40 PM EST
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:40 PM EST
of course. Gallery walk. Stand up pair up. Many others.
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LausanneLearn
Nov 8 @ 8:41 PM EST
Anyone try
https://t.co/SeGjHCXOVi
for foundations? Ind or group?
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jessrenea15
Nov 8 @ 8:42 PM EST
at the after school program I work at kids are more responsive when I use slang & reference things relevant to them
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jessrenea15
Nov 8 @ 8:43 PM EST
A4: wasn't that question 3?
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:44 PM EST
relationships are important but you might be the only person using academic language with them.
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Suz_Gibbs
Nov 8 @ 8:45 PM EST
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@briandurgin
Next year (back in 4th) we are diligent about using consistent language in all classrooms. :)
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:47 PM EST
Sorry wrong slide.
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:48 PM EST
Q4: What strategies do you use to increase instructional dialogue?
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:50 PM EST
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jessrenea15
Nov 8 @ 8:50 PM EST
A4: I don't plan lessons for my job, it's more of just helping students with whatever work they come in with, but that being said
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PSusice
Nov 8 @ 8:51 PM EST
A4: Model, what does it look like, what doesn't it look like, let me catch you using it.
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PSusice
Nov 8 @ 8:52 PM EST
A4: anchor charts, different kinds of visuals, student created visuals.
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briandurgin
Nov 8 @ 8:53 PM EST
but there is certain language they need to access in order to be successful.
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jessrenea15
Nov 8 @ 8:53 PM EST
I try to incorporate academic language that pushes them but isn't too far over their head,
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jessrenea15
Nov 8 @ 8:54 PM EST
& relating their school topics to something fun for them
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Elementarist
Nov 8 @ 8:55 PM EST
Hope you will join us next wk @ 9pEST for
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to discuss student gaps in understanding & instruction
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KyCenterforMath
Oct 11 @ 10:12 PM EDT
November's
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will be about bridging student gaps in understanding & instruction: 11/15 at 9 pm eastern/8 pm central.
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jessrenea15
Nov 8 @ 8:57 PM EST
right, which is why I try to help them understand that language and relate it to things they already know
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