#edchatie Archive
Monday April 3, 2017
3:30 PM EDT
fboss
Apr 3 @ 3:31 PM EDT
Welcome to tonight's
#edchatie
& as usual, before we begin, please introduce yourself. Include the hashtag in all of your tweets too
giveawayvtech
Apr 3 @ 3:33 PM EDT
Welcome to tonight's
#edchatie
& as usual, before we begin, please introduce yourself. Include the hashtag in all of your tweets too
johnmayo
Apr 3 @ 3:33 PM EDT
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John in Virginia on Spring Break but I find myself in
@AlbemarleHigh
for
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In reply to @AlbemarleHigh
pauldechnoic
Apr 3 @ 3:36 PM EDT
Paul, everywhere, primary teacher
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fboss
Apr 3 @ 3:37 PM EDT
This is the last
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before Easter. We'll be back on Monday 24th to continue the
#edchatie
discussions for the last term
fboss
Apr 3 @ 3:39 PM EDT
In case there's a lag from me tonight on
#edchatie
- it's because I'm attending
#CoSN17
over in Chicago at the mo'
hey_km
Apr 3 @ 3:39 PM EDT
I'm not sure I could discuss this in a public forum...
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fboss
Apr 3 @ 3:28 PM EDT
Flex your typing fingers - in less than 5 minutes
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goes live to discuss "Unhealthy work relationships in the staffroom" Join in
LiamDGuilfoyle
Apr 3 @ 3:39 PM EDT
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Liam, PP Science, PhD in UL... out of the staffroom, might not be able to contribute much tonight 😐 But interested!
fboss
Apr 3 @ 3:40 PM EDT
I wouldn't be discussing people in any way on
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any night, but it's interesting that it won the vote to be discussed
In reply to @hey_km
LiamDGuilfoyle
Apr 3 @ 3:40 PM EDT
and still managing
#edchatie
, that is commitment! 😊
In reply to @fboss
johnmayo
Apr 3 @ 3:41 PM EDT
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Surprised that this topic could have consequences for some if stuff shared on Twitter
LiamDGuilfoyle
Apr 3 @ 3:41 PM EDT
I am curious if anyone can 😅
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In reply to @hey_km
pauldechnoic
Apr 3 @ 3:41 PM EDT
Staffrooms can be the most stressful place for new teachers/ subs
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hey_km
Apr 3 @ 3:42 PM EDT
Absolutely, plenty to discuss without getting personal. I'm quite surprised at the vote as well, Fred! I'll give it a go...
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In reply to @fboss
historyjk
Apr 3 @ 3:42 PM EDT
Jason, History/CSPE teacher in Cork. I guess that for this to work everything has to be hypothetical-what make a good staff room?
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fboss
Apr 3 @ 3:43 PM EDT
I remember that feeling of being the new kid on the block in the staffroom too
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In reply to @pauldechnoic
johnmayo
Apr 3 @ 3:43 PM EDT
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I have worked in some places (in and out of education) in Ireland that I am glad no longer there.
pauldechnoic
Apr 3 @ 3:44 PM EDT
Staffrooms are a sanctuary for the teacher with a tough class, tea, and a break
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fboss
Apr 3 @ 3:44 PM EDT
AT last - someone in the same time zone as me ;-) Welcome along tonight John
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In reply to @johnmayo
johnmayo
Apr 3 @ 3:44 PM EDT
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it is the other way round... you are on my patch!!!!
In reply to @fboss
pamelaaobrien
Apr 3 @ 3:45 PM EDT
unusual choice of
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topic Fred. Not sure I have anything to share on this one!
In reply to @fboss
fboss
Apr 3 @ 3:45 PM EDT
That is an important point that needs to be made. We always tried (but usually failed) to not have students calling during breaks
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In reply to @pauldechnoic
pauldechnoic
Apr 3 @ 3:45 PM EDT
Purpose of or a staff room culture needs to be discussed and considered... what's the space for? And not for
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SighleH
Apr 3 @ 3:45 PM EDT
@fboss
In an ideal world!
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In reply to @pauldechnoic, @fboss
AineMcMahon
Apr 3 @ 3:46 PM EDT
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What secondary school subjects or curriculums are dated or in need of modernisation? Views? For an Irish Times article.
fboss
Apr 3 @ 3:46 PM EDT
Said earlier, the twist on "Unhealthy work relationships in the staffroom" could be more interesting - what DOES makes them work
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In reply to @pamelaaobrien
ValerieLCarson
Apr 3 @ 3:47 PM EDT
Thankfully have little experience of this but a symptom of poor communication and/or support structures I would imagine?
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fboss
Apr 3 @ 3:47 PM EDT
Could also make an interesting
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discussion topic for after Easter
In reply to @AineMcMahon
clareire
Apr 3 @ 3:47 PM EDT
Clare - DP - Tipp
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can b v "healthy r'ships" in staffrooms - peer support- collegiality - positive school culture = positive s'room
pauldechnoic
Apr 3 @ 3:48 PM EDT
Staffrooms like ecosystem of their own,can breath clicks,territory issues.my cup, my chair.Hard to nativgate with unspoken rules
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clairenichan
Apr 3 @ 3:48 PM EDT
I'm also surprised this got the vote! I'm living the dream - cosy staffroom, free tea and wonderful colleagues. 😍
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In reply to @fboss, @hey_km
joannetoal1
Apr 3 @ 3:48 PM EDT
Joanne, primary teacher in Dublin. Interesting topic!
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mikepcarey7
Apr 3 @ 3:48 PM EDT
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Mike (PE Mathematics ICT, Cork) Team Leader, Short Courses with
@JCforTeachers
In reply to @JCforTeachers
talsara
Apr 3 @ 3:48 PM EDT
Talitha, primary, Laois
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pamelaaobrien
Apr 3 @ 3:49 PM EDT
what does make them work ... somewhere you are supported, where you can feel you can share ideas etc.
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In reply to @fboss
fboss
Apr 3 @ 3:49 PM EDT
Finding tea in the States is sometimes not very easy ;-)
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Sounds like a lovely staffroom
In reply to @clairenichan, @hey_km
talsara
Apr 3 @ 3:50 PM EDT
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the odd sweet treat now and again never hurts.
In reply to @fboss, @pamelaaobrien
pauldechnoic
Apr 3 @ 3:50 PM EDT
I personally love our staff room, colourful, large, sit anywhere and always treats lurking
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SenKidsCharity
Apr 3 @ 3:50 PM EDT
The Sensory Room: Helping Students With Autism Focus & Learn
https://t.co/GT2F3c2JbM
via
@YouTube
#otpeeps
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In reply to @YouTube
historyjk
Apr 3 @ 3:51 PM EDT
Being able to take time out to unwind and have a conversation with colleagues is vital in any school
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pauldechnoic
Apr 3 @ 3:51 PM EDT
Inserts "everyday"
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In reply to @talsara, @fboss, @pamelaaobrien
clareire
Apr 3 @ 3:52 PM EDT
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I like idea of separate staff workroom & social room....creative use of furniture to avoid cliques....
pamelaaobrien
Apr 3 @ 3:52 PM EDT
if you insist Paul! :)
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In reply to @pauldechnoic, @talsara, @fboss
pauldechnoic
Apr 3 @ 3:53 PM EDT
On my summer course, same topic came up, and staffrooms big stressor... all staff need to be aware of space and share it
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clareire
Apr 3 @ 3:53 PM EDT
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duty teacher interception of students approaching staff room would help!
In reply to @fboss, @pauldechnoic
mikepcarey7
Apr 3 @ 3:54 PM EDT
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@AineMcMahon
worth looking
@NCCAie
website. p.17 of FfJC
https://t.co/fNcLL4gpy7
shows curr. timeline of update of all JC subjects
In reply to @AineMcMahon, @AineMcMahon, @NCCAie
fboss
Apr 3 @ 3:55 PM EDT
So, I'm now wondering is there a way to construct an ideal staffroom to assist teachers in the "work,rest and play" - Any thoughts
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In reply to @clareire
heartrattle
Apr 3 @ 3:57 PM EDT
Late to the party tonight! Jana, primary. At our first staff meeting every year,we're reminded to keep staff chitchat separate /1
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clareire
Apr 3 @ 3:57 PM EDT
I notice s'body used the
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to show a multi sensory room - a retreat space like that for staff is really needed!
#stressreduction
In reply to @fboss
joannetoal1
Apr 3 @ 3:57 PM EDT
Rest- We have a lovely seating area with couches, great for a sneaky nap ;)
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In reply to @fboss, @clareire
hey_km
Apr 3 @ 3:57 PM EDT
Schools with separate work and staff rooms are key - really sets the tone for each space.
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heartrattle
Apr 3 @ 3:58 PM EDT
...both for our own wellbeing and for children's privacy. Creates a lovely atmosphere where you can switch off! 2/2
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dhubhda
Apr 3 @ 3:58 PM EDT
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yes by creating zones just as you would in a kitchen/dining/ sitting area. No photocopier in it please!
In reply to @fboss, @clareire
SighleH
Apr 3 @ 3:59 PM EDT
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@fboss
We have become creatures of habit. Sit in same place mostly. Not conducive to good relationships.
In reply to @fboss
heartrattle
Apr 3 @ 3:59 PM EDT
I love the idea of comfy chairs, light adult reading, possibility to play music. Have a "chocolate emergency box," usually empty!
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In reply to @fboss, @clareire
Tumedel
Apr 3 @ 4:00 PM EDT
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Edel, post primary teacher Monaghan, late to this sorry!
joannetoal1
Apr 3 @ 4:00 PM EDT
Agreed! This is exactly what we have. We do have a projector & screen for staff meetings though
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dhubhda
Apr 3 @ 3:58 PM EDT
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yes by creating zones just as you would in a kitchen/dining/ sitting area. No photocopier in it please!
In reply to @fboss, @clareire
pamelaaobrien
Apr 3 @ 4:00 PM EDT
when can I come visit Donal? :)
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In reply to @DpDonal, @talsara, @fboss
fboss
Apr 3 @ 4:00 PM EDT
Never late - you just made it to the halftime marker of the last
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this side of Easter. Back discussing on Monday April 24th
In reply to @Tumedel
historyjk
Apr 3 @ 4:01 PM EDT
It's hugely important that staff rooms have an ethos of welcoming new staff. None of us wanted to be on our own on the first day
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dhubhda
Apr 3 @ 4:01 PM EDT
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Adequate space is a must. Use of colour & plants very important to creating positive atmosphere.
Tumedel
Apr 3 @ 4:01 PM EDT
Be lovely if possible, but space is often a big issue
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hey_km
Apr 3 @ 3:57 PM EDT
Schools with separate work and staff rooms are key - really sets the tone for each space.
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DpDonal
Apr 3 @ 4:02 PM EDT
Are we putting too much emphasis on the staffroom? What do the private sector have? Teachers definitely need a separate workspace
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hey_km
Apr 3 @ 4:02 PM EDT
Had an interesting workshop with
@jimgroom
today for
#AllAboard2017
. Any interested
#edchatie
folks can catch the highlights here.
#heie
sharonlflynn
Apr 3 @ 12:15 PM EDT
@buselrn
@TELtales
@hey_km
"Student as partner, producer, and assessor: Workshop with Jim Groom" on Storify
https://t.co/NgwAju4JOF
In reply to @buselrn, @TELtales, @hey_km
dhubhda
Apr 3 @ 4:03 PM EDT
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we have a kitchen not a staffroom with a very small table. Far from restful.
joannetoal1
Apr 3 @ 4:05 PM EDT
We have noticeboards with all sorts on them and a nice mixture of reading material (bit like a book swap) and curriculum stuff
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In reply to @pauldechnoic
hey_km
Apr 3 @ 4:05 PM EDT
Since changing jobs (higher ed) I've found it SO useful to have an office. I never had a space of my own to just work!
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In reply to @DpDonal
joannetoal1
Apr 3 @ 4:06 PM EDT
Our old one was awful. Low tables and even lower chairs. Had to eat off your lap. Not relaxing!
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In reply to @dhubhda
clareire
Apr 3 @ 4:07 PM EDT
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own office is great for work, storage etc but u lose the collegial aspect of shared space
In reply to @hey_km, @DpDonal
johnmayo
Apr 3 @ 4:08 PM EDT
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@AlbemarleHigh
is so big we don't have what you would call a central staffroom. We have a photocopy room & various dept workrooms
In reply to @AlbemarleHigh
dhubhda
Apr 3 @ 4:08 PM EDT
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thrown out of our kitchen so students can do cookery there. Have conducted RSE lessons around table with cup of tea!
In reply to @joannetoal1
ismiseMairead
Apr 3 @ 4:08 PM EDT
Mairéad anseo, múinteoir Gaeilge agus Staire. Staff relationships are difficult in dual union schools at the moment.
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roisin616
Apr 3 @ 4:10 PM EDT
Hi all, Róisín from Louth but working in Dublin.
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pauldechnoic
Apr 3 @ 4:11 PM EDT
Not going to lie I love a juicy piece of news or some piece of gossip about ppl I know noting about, usually others families!
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johnmayo
Apr 3 @ 4:11 PM EDT
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Keep an eye on
#acps
for room design for classrooms and shared space. We a re big on choice and comfort here!!
fboss
Apr 3 @ 4:11 PM EDT
Is there no where that all can sit and chat. Such as this ->
https://t.co/20gqQdQZFo
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In reply to @johnmayo, @AlbemarleHigh
roisin616
Apr 3 @ 4:12 PM EDT
Banning shop talk is useful in a staff room; it's so important to leave some things in the classroom.
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pamelaaobrien
Apr 3 @ 4:13 PM EDT
from HE perspective open plan office makes it difficult to get any work done in office but invaluable for working relationships
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In reply to @clareire, @hey_km, @DpDonal
dhubhda
Apr 3 @ 4:14 PM EDT
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entitled to a break - headspace
In reply to @roisin616
fboss
Apr 3 @ 4:14 PM EDT
Environment + time away from students+positives! How else can we discuss "Unhealthy work relationships in the staffroom"?
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roisin616
Apr 3 @ 4:14 PM EDT
This grant ensures a light bulb in every classroom, and a high definition TV in the teachers' lounge. 😂
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A Simpsons classic!
johnmayo
Apr 3 @ 4:14 PM EDT
We have 175 members of teaching staff. We have to split faculty meetings into two
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In reply to @fboss, @AlbemarleHigh
dhubhda
Apr 3 @ 4:16 PM EDT
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important that space is flexible.
clairenichan
Apr 3 @ 4:16 PM EDT
Yes! We only get the tea when we've done all our obair bhaile. We used get free biscuits too til we started to get a bit tubby...
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In reply to @DpDonal, @fboss, @hey_km
roisin616
Apr 3 @ 4:16 PM EDT
The staff room can be a scary place for subs. Have been in ones with, "Oh, that's Mary's seat/ mug/ spoon".
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pamelaaobrien
Apr 3 @ 4:17 PM EDT
agreed Clare. Has gotten me into very bad habits - most of my prep, corrections etc done at home at night :(
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In reply to @clareire, @hey_km, @DpDonal
fboss
Apr 3 @ 4:17 PM EDT
OK - how can the staffroom be made even more inviting to subs/NQTs?
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In reply to @roisin616
DpDonal
Apr 3 @ 4:17 PM EDT
I believe ESSA Academy has common dining area for staff & students. Builds positive environment.
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heartrattle
Apr 3 @ 4:17 PM EDT
Positive atmosphere extends beyond staff room too obviously. Some of funniest colleague convos - at classroom door after hours!
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heartrattle
Apr 3 @ 4:18 PM EDT
As well as informal/formal staff social occasions too. Few comedians on staff keep the mood up during breaks!
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fboss
Apr 3 @ 4:19 PM EDT
If I'm understanding you correctly, then it would seem that school culture and school climate are as important as environment
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In reply to @heartrattle
roisin616
Apr 3 @ 4:19 PM EDT
Not having assigned seats and extra mugs! 😉 I know that even a little chat helps a lot and breaks the ice.
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In reply to @fboss
pamelaaobrien
Apr 3 @ 4:19 PM EDT
important to do that sometimes!! :)
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In reply to @clareire, @hey_km, @DpDonal
heartrattle
Apr 3 @ 4:20 PM EDT
Taking initiative to strike up conversation is big, I think. Can be hard to start a conversation w/ strangers who know each other
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In reply to @fboss, @roisin616
Tumedel
Apr 3 @ 4:20 PM EDT
Students shouldn't have access to staffroom ie entry to it
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to store items...
In reply to @fboss
clairenichan
Apr 3 @ 4:20 PM EDT
We have a work room connected to the SR.So we have our desk, storage etc, and still have big tables to eat/work together.
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In reply to @pamelaaobrien, @clareire, @hey_km, @DpDonal
heartrattle
Apr 3 @ 4:20 PM EDT
Absolutely. No point having the newest, most modern building if the warm atmosphere just isn't there! People make a place
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In reply to @fboss
heartrattle
Apr 3 @ 4:21 PM EDT
Also trying to move the conversation away from generic "have you been getting much work?" etc. I'm as guilty as anyone of that!
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In reply to @fboss, @roisin616
ismiseMairead
Apr 3 @ 4:21 PM EDT
moratorium on posts has caused increased competition and has negatively impacted staff harmony.
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SighleH
Apr 3 @ 4:21 PM EDT
For primary scl.Think separate staff room and break room a good idea. No talk of pupils/curric for few minutes to reduce stress
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clairenichan
Apr 3 @ 4:21 PM EDT
Assigned seating needs to go! It should be said at staff meetings that all seats are up for grabs. And always have extra mugs.
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In reply to @roisin616, @fboss
pamelaaobrien
Apr 3 @ 4:22 PM EDT
bringing it home worked for me when my children were very small and my husband working in Dublin. Hard to undo it now!
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In reply to @dhubhda, @clareire, @hey_km, @DpDonal
pamelaaobrien
Apr 3 @ 4:22 PM EDT
sounds like the best of both worlds Claire :)
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In reply to @clairenichan, @clareire, @hey_km, @DpDonal
ismiseMairead
Apr 3 @ 4:23 PM EDT
Mental health of teachers at risk when staff relationships are strained as staff rooms should be the place to relax and recharge
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MaireadDB
Apr 3 @ 4:23 PM EDT
Good call. Children need to be able to run in the yard. .
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In reply to @teach_talk_back
johnmayo
Apr 3 @ 4:24 PM EDT
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what about mental health of unemployed teachers - a bad day at work is better than an average day on the dole
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In reply to @ismiseMairead
ismiseMairead
Apr 3 @ 4:24 PM EDT
I think social committees are undervalued and contribute so much to staff wellbeing and good relationships
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In reply to @heartrattle
fboss
Apr 3 @ 4:24 PM EDT
So, if teachers are making their classroom safe spaces to work and learn they should also have it in the staffroom?
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In reply to @ismiseMairead
MaireadDB
Apr 3 @ 4:25 PM EDT
Good idea! Doing that tomorrow! .
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In reply to @pauldechnoic, @clareire, @fboss
clareire
Apr 3 @ 4:26 PM EDT
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Thx Fred - a grand positive chat in what could have been a toxic space! In summary DES put a bit of thought into s'room design
heartrattle
Apr 3 @ 4:26 PM EDT
Def. We're lucky - active committee accommodate different activities + times of day. Coffee/cake in local pub was a great success!
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In reply to @ismiseMairead
pamelaaobrien
Apr 3 @ 4:27 PM EDT
Reminder that the call for presenters for
@ICTedu
closes this Thursday 6th April
https://t.co/zLtnd92ngh
#edchatie
#ictedu
In reply to @ICTedu
de_Bruner
Apr 3 @ 4:28 PM EDT
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Staffrooms are not just for work - they're for eating in; we're not robots (despite attempts to turn us into such).
ismiseMairead
Apr 3 @ 4:28 PM EDT
Absolutely-a healthy school climate is a collaborative effort involving all stakeholders in the school & requires mutual support
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In reply to @fboss
dhubhda
Apr 3 @ 4:28 PM EDT
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@fboss
Thanks Fred. Hope your Masters assignment is going well.
In reply to @fboss
de_Bruner
Apr 3 @ 4:29 PM EDT
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2. The absence of a staffroom will not increase 'productivity'.
pamelaaobrien
Apr 3 @ 4:29 PM EDT
Early Bird Registration is now open for
@ICTedu
- Bring a Buddy rate of €70 for 2
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#ictedu
https://t.co/zLtnd92ngh
In reply to @ICTedu
fboss
Apr 3 @ 4:29 PM EDT
We're into the famous final five minutes of tonight's
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Any last solutions, ideas and thoughts?
clairenichan
Apr 3 @ 4:29 PM EDT
Agreed. Maybe these Teacher Lunchables would help?
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In reply to @de_Bruner
henrymartin1
Apr 3 @ 4:29 PM EDT
I did a course last year where the mantra was 'Conflict is Inevitable'. Personalities differ & I guess self management is crucial
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In reply to @fboss