#IDedchat Archive

This is a chat for Idaho Educators and anyone else who wants to join the conversation. Topic for 6/20: Reflective Practices

Wednesday August 29, 2018
10:00 PM EDT

  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:00 PM EDT
    It's 8PM MDT! Time for #IDedchat - a weekly chat for Idaho Edus and anyone else who wants to join the convo!
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    I am Janet Avery, Curriculum Director in Jerome, and your moderator this evening! #IDedchat
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  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    If you haven't ever participated in a Twitter chat before, @participatechat is a great tool to use! Check it out here: https://t.co/bgTSno6BA8 #IDedchat
  • LitCoachBrandon Aug 29 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    Hi, everyone. I'm Brandon Bolyard, Region 3 coach for the Idaho Coaching Network. #idedchat #idcoachnet
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    Hi Brandon! So glad you made it tonight! #IDedchat
    In reply to @LitCoachBrandon
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    As you join our chat, don't forget to add the #IDedchat hashtag to your tweets!
  • WinkelerD Aug 29 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    Dan, business teacher from St. Louis. #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    Hi Dan! Great to see you! Thanks for keeping #IDedchat going last week when I was down for the count! :-)
    In reply to @WinkelerD
  • WinkelerD Aug 29 @ 10:04 PM EDT
    How are you feeling? We didn't want to disappoint last week. #idedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:04 PM EDT
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    Q1: What is your WHY when it comes to assessment? What is the purpose for assessment in learning? #IDedchat
  • hiccupc Aug 29 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    Chris here with IDLA. As usual being pulled 17.5 different ways, but looking forward to participating where I can! #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    Much better - still have a big spot on my knee from the fall. Pride hurt more than anything! :-) #IDedchat
    In reply to @WinkelerD
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    Hi Chris! So glad you made it! #IDedchat
    In reply to @hiccupc
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    Here is Q1 again! #IDedchat
  • WinkelerD Aug 29 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    A1: For me, my assessments are all application/project based. I want Ss to apply the knowledge gained rather than regurgitate it on a MC test. #idedchat
  • hiccupc Aug 29 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    A1: Real answer or ideal answer? #IDedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • WinkelerD Aug 29 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    I know how that goes. I fall/trip into things in my classroom all day long. #idedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    How about both! :-) #IDedchat
    In reply to @hiccupc
  • hiccupc Aug 29 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    Me too! I've been missing this networking! #IDedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • MrsAgTeacher Aug 29 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    I teach ag science at an alternative high school in Burley. Finally able to catch an #idedchat !
  • LCHS_Bio Aug 29 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    Hi everyone. Had a rough week. Just realized it was after 10:00 #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    Hi Jaysa! Great to see you - I know this time of year is crazy for FFA folks! #IDedchat
    In reply to @MrsAgTeacher
  • LitCoachBrandon Aug 29 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    A1: I think it's all about gauging learning. What do students know, and how do I use that information to help them move forward? #idedchat #idcoachnet
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    A1: Assessment should be all about knowing where your students are....how you know they are learning what you intend. #IDedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Aug 29 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    R1: Assessments are not always tests. #idedchat
  • _datagirl Aug 29 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    A1. Assessment (when it’s well done😁) is how I know my next right step. Whitney ward, joining in spurts tonight. #IDedchat
  • hiccupc Aug 29 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    Ha! Ideal: constant formative to build learning, analyzing each stage of the way. #IDedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    Moving forward - the key to the "why" of assessment. :-) #IDedchat
    In reply to @LitCoachBrandon
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    Q2: How do you balance assessment in your classroom? #IDedchat
  • MrsAgTeacher Aug 29 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    A1- assessment tells me how I'm doing as a teacher. Are students getting what I'm teaching, can they communicate that to me? #idedchat
  • WinkelerD Aug 29 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    Far to many times the mindset is assessments= MC test or essays when they don't have to be. #idedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    Hi Whitney! SO glad to see you here! How is your new adventure? #IDedchat
    In reply to @_datagirl
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    AMEN! #IDedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio
  • hiccupc Aug 29 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    Realistically: Summative and required assessments. Understandable, but once a year, and not for 17.5 hours. #IDedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • LCHS_Bio Aug 29 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    R1: I use a variety of assessments to guard where my students are, if they can apply their knowledge to a real world senario, and use it to help guide where I go next with instruction. #idedchat
  • WinkelerD Aug 29 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    A2: My assessments are project based, and I am doing projects all the time. So my assessments are constantly happening. #idedchat
  • MrsAgTeacher Aug 29 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    I just gave an "assessment" over collecting data and graphs by asking each student to do just that- they didn't realize I was "testing" them bc they were engaged in doing science (fun!) #IDedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    Here is Q2 - Balancing assessments..... OR how to make sure your aren't just "weighing the pig" but you are "Feeding the pig" too. :-) #IDedchat
  • LitCoachBrandon Aug 29 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    A2: I'm assessing all of the time: pulse checks, exit tickets, one on one conversations, bored looks - everything provides info about how students are doing and how I can support them. #idedchat #idcoachnet
  • LCHS_Bio Aug 29 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    R2: I question Ss about content daily through exit questions, labs, discussion. I go around and listen to their convos about content. Sometimes I don’t even ask...I watch and listen. Then I readjust. #idedchat
  • WinkelerD Aug 29 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    A2: Balancing assessments sounds funny to me. Not all assessments have to be for a grade. I feel like I assess all the time in various ways. #idedchat
  • LitCoachBrandon Aug 29 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    A2: I also think there was generally an imbalance in my classroom - way more formative than summative assessments #idcoachnet #idedchat
  • thesnowshoe Aug 29 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    Ty Salsbery— assistant principal at a high school #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    TIme passing without realizing it - so involved in what you are doing! Great! #IDedchat
    In reply to @MrsAgTeacher, @LCHS_Bio
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    Hi Ty! So glad you made it tonight! #IDedchat
    In reply to @thesnowshoe
  • LCHS_Bio Aug 29 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    Did the same about 2 wks ago. I did it with a lab activity where they used the scientific method. They had to graph, write their report, collect data from their peers. #IDedchat
    In reply to @MrsAgTeacher
  • MrsAgTeacher Aug 29 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    A2- I feel like this takes a lot of practice- I'm just now getting to where I have a handle on it. Don't force it- assess when needed in the flow of leaning not by strict timeline (i.e. Tests every Friday, etc) #idedchat
  • hiccupc Aug 29 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    A2: Assessment should be a constant. Reading your Ss, mentoring & chatting, anecdotes, and professional opinion. #idedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    Q3: How do you decide what type of assessment you will use in a lesson? unit? #IDedchat
  • _datagirl Aug 29 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    Do you see this as problematic? Just curious. It seems if balance was going to be off, this is a positive slant! #IDedchat
    In reply to @LitCoachBrandon
  • thesnowshoe Aug 29 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    A1: my favoriteway T’s use assessment is to see what their peers did to experience success with certain content #IDedchat
  • LitCoachBrandon Aug 29 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    A2: As a coach, I'm assessing how well Ts understand online course content through reflective notebooks. There's nothing evaluative about this; just an opportunity to provide feedback #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    Love the mix of verbal, written, and non-verbal -all very informal. Looking for "teachable moments" involves knowing where your students are. #IDedchat
    In reply to @LitCoachBrandon
  • _datagirl Aug 29 @ 10:16 PM EDT
    A2. Balance is possible with purpose. Once we know our purpose, we chose our process. At least that’s what I want to do... #idedchat
  • hiccupc Aug 29 @ 10:16 PM EDT
    If I'm the pig, I can gain as much weight with eating bacon, or chowing on broccoli. One is good for me and one is just wrong. #IDedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:16 PM EDT
    Tell us more about this Ty. Where/when/how do they do this? #IDedchat
    In reply to @thesnowshoe
  • LCHS_Bio Aug 29 @ 10:16 PM EDT
    Sometime I create the assessment and then let the assessment guide what I am teaching/what the kids choose to learn. #idedchat
  • MrsAgTeacher Aug 29 @ 10:16 PM EDT
    A3- assessment should fit the instruction/ learning. Don't give a multiple choice test for project based learning- doesn't fit. #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:17 PM EDT
    Exactly! #IDedchat
    • WinkelerD Aug 29 @ 10:13 PM EDT
      A2: Balancing assessments sounds funny to me. Not all assessments have to be for a grade. I feel like I assess all the time in various ways. #idedchat
  • LitCoachBrandon Aug 29 @ 10:17 PM EDT
    That's a good question/wondering. I think I had some sort of formal or informal formative assessment every day that guided the next day's instruction where as there were only a handful of summatives during the year. #idedchat #idcoachnet
    In reply to @_datagirl
  • WinkelerD Aug 29 @ 10:17 PM EDT
    A3: It all depends on the class dynamics and the flow of the class that day. Having one "in mind" means that you are trying to guide the class in a certain way rather than them get there in their own way. #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:18 PM EDT
    I would say that those formative assessments drive instruction more than the summative - also allows for learning shifts to occur. #IDedchat
    • _datagirl Aug 29 @ 10:15 PM EDT
      Do you see this as problematic? Just curious. It seems if balance was going to be off, this is a positive slant! #IDedchat
      In reply to @LitCoachBrandon
  • LCHS_Bio Aug 29 @ 10:19 PM EDT
    If you look at backwards design, unwrap the indicators/standards. Then create your assessment based on big ideas. Then create your activities and lessons to support the outcome. @AinsworthLarry #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:19 PM EDT
    Ahhh...FEEDBACK - this is a Q coming up later! #IDedchat
    In reply to @LitCoachBrandon
  • MrsAgTeacher Aug 29 @ 10:19 PM EDT
    You have to have some idea of where you're headed but maintain flexibility to explore and dive deeper when learners are interested. #idedchat
    In reply to @WinkelerD
  • LitCoachBrandon Aug 29 @ 10:19 PM EDT
    A3: I think about what the learning goals and success criteria are for the unit or lesson. Then, I consider the most appropriate ways for students to demonstrate those skills or transfer the knowledge #idcoachnet #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:20 PM EDT
    #IDedchat
    • _datagirl Aug 29 @ 10:18 PM EDT
      If We were to lose some of the MC, maybe we’d have more time for projects?!
      In reply to @MrsAgTeacher
  • BDicksonNV Aug 29 @ 10:20 PM EDT
    A2 key is to ensure there’s formatives to drive the instruction & summation to see if they learned it. This only happens with planning. #IDedchat
  • WinkelerD Aug 29 @ 10:20 PM EDT
    Agreed. I don't go in thinking "I am going to assess THIS way today" I have an arsenal of them planned tailored to the class for the day. #idedchat
    In reply to @MrsAgTeacher
  • MrsAgTeacher Aug 29 @ 10:20 PM EDT
    I like the way you worded that- stealing!! :) #idedchat
    In reply to @LitCoachBrandon
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:21 PM EDT
    Hi Ben! Glad you popped in to #IDedchat tonight!
    In reply to @BDicksonNV
  • LitCoachBrandon Aug 29 @ 10:21 PM EDT
    Flexibility is so important! It can be so tempting to just stay focused on the end game and lose sight of students who need more guidance, time, or support. #idedchat #idcoachnet
    In reply to @MrsAgTeacher, @WinkelerD
  • hiccupc Aug 29 @ 10:22 PM EDT
    A3: I think this is one of those questions where we know what the answer should be in balance of formative vs. summative vs. "quick grab" but we have to prove something to admins. #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:22 PM EDT
    Gold star Mr. Bolyard! :-) What do we want students to know (learning goal)? How will we know they learned it? Transfer being the most important. :-) #IDedchat
    • LitCoachBrandon Aug 29 @ 10:19 PM EDT
      A3: I think about what the learning goals and success criteria are for the unit or lesson. Then, I consider the most appropriate ways for students to demonstrate those skills or transfer the knowledge #idcoachnet #idedchat
  • MrsAgTeacher Aug 29 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    Ahhhh battery... dying.... 🔋🔋🔋🔋 I'll have to catch up later! Loving the thoughts! #idedchat
  • BDicksonNV Aug 29 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    A3 know what it is you want student to be able to do first, what is it students should know? Then how will they show it & how will they be able to transfer it. This is so much more than a multiple choice test #IDedchat
  • BDicksonNV Aug 29 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    Running late but glad to join #IDedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • LitCoachBrandon Aug 29 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    :) #IDedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    Love it! #IDedchat
    In reply to @LitCoachBrandon
  • LCHS_Bio Aug 29 @ 10:24 PM EDT
    I was talking with my assistant principal and guidance counselor yesterday about content. Is it more important to have quantity or quality? I’ll take quality everyday. It’s not about how much material we can get through. It’s about how much Ss underatand #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:24 PM EDT
    Next Q coming right up! #IDedchat
  • goodn3rd Aug 29 @ 10:24 PM EDT
    Intrinsic rewards for the rest of you! #idedchat
    • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:22 PM EDT
      Gold star Mr. Bolyard! :-) What do we want students to know (learning goal)? How will we know they learned it? Transfer being the most important. :-) #IDedchat
      • LitCoachBrandon Aug 29 @ 10:19 PM EDT
        A3: I think about what the learning goals and success criteria are for the unit or lesson. Then, I consider the most appropriate ways for students to demonstrate those skills or transfer the knowledge #idcoachnet #idedchat
  • BDicksonNV Aug 29 @ 10:24 PM EDT
    So important to have a success criteria for students. They need to know the target #IDedchat
    In reply to @LitCoachBrandon
  • WinkelerD Aug 29 @ 10:24 PM EDT
    Exactly. Can't take the easy way out. Students don't learn that way. #idedchat
    In reply to @LitCoachBrandon, @MrsAgTeacher
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:24 PM EDT
    HAHAHAH! #IDedchat
    In reply to @goodn3rd
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:25 PM EDT
    Q4: What types of assessment FOR learning do you use? Give specific examples and explain purpose: #IDedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Aug 29 @ 10:25 PM EDT
    I was talking with my assistant principal and guidance counselor yesterday about content. Is it more important to have quantity or quality? I’ll take quality everyday. It’s not about how much material we can get through. It’s about how much Ss understand #idedchat
  • thesnowshoe Aug 29 @ 10:26 PM EDT
    During weekly/daily collaboration time they analyze CFA data and who’s S’s did well with their standards #IDedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • WinkelerD Aug 29 @ 10:26 PM EDT
    A4: I assess through projects. Gives students the ability to express their learning in a variety of ways compared to their neighbor. Lets them put a personal touch to show their learning/growth. #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:26 PM EDT
    Deep learning and transfer of knowledge to new situations - more important than covering a mile wide list of information. #IDedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:26 PM EDT
    Hmmm....sounds suspiciously like a culture of PLCs! ;-) #IDedchat #atplc
    In reply to @thesnowshoe
  • LCHS_Bio Aug 29 @ 10:27 PM EDT
    R4: labs, PBL, labs, PBL. You get where I’m going. I also do @GetKahoot questions, writings that apply knowledge. Ask questions. Again, sometimes watching and listening. #idedchat
  • WinkelerD Aug 29 @ 10:27 PM EDT
    I'd rather cover less but expand more on it than try to cover more and not go as deep. #idedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:27 PM EDT
    Are your project formative...or summative? What formative checks do you do along the way while students are working toward completion of projects? #IDedchat
    In reply to @WinkelerD
  • BDicksonNV Aug 29 @ 10:28 PM EDT
    A balance of content and process is so important. How we assess these is different. #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:28 PM EDT
    Agreed - tell us a little more what you mean by this Ben. #IDedchat
    In reply to @BDicksonNV
  • LCHS_Bio Aug 29 @ 10:28 PM EDT
    That’s hard with an AP class; however, if Ss can apply their knowledge it should be simple for them to get that 3 or 4 or 5 on that test. #IDedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • WinkelerD Aug 29 @ 10:29 PM EDT
    I do projects for both. Smaller projects as formative. I also have them lead class discussions and ask questions of their neighbor. #idedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • LitCoachBrandon Aug 29 @ 10:29 PM EDT
    A4: At the end of workshops, we have Ts complete an exit ticket that provides us with ways we can support teachers in the future. These also provide Ts with a chance to reflect. #idedchat #idcoachnet
  • BDicksonNV Aug 29 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    When we focus only on content knowledge but not on how to read a historical text or write a lab report, we miss key learning opportunities. Learning to learn & transfer learning is key for students future #IDedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • LCHS_Bio Aug 29 @ 10:31 PM EDT
    Gonna sound weird but my projects are both summative and formative. When you give Ss the opportunity to fix, it is an opportunity for them to continue to learn, yet you have that “finale” as well. #IDedchat
    In reply to @WinkelerD, @averyteach
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:31 PM EDT
    Process over Product. :-) #IDedchat
    In reply to @BDicksonNV
  • BDicksonNV Aug 29 @ 10:31 PM EDT
    Assessing this transfer of learning needs to be shown in application of learning rather than on a paper pencil test #IDedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • LitCoachBrandon Aug 29 @ 10:32 PM EDT
    This makes sense to me. I often thought of summative assessments as formatives for the next unit. #idedchat #idcoachnet
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio, @WinkelerD, @averyteach
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:33 PM EDT
    How do they know what to "fix" - it is through a "grade" or something else? Hmmm....this may be leading to a Q that is coming up... #IDedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio, @WinkelerD
  • BDicksonNV Aug 29 @ 10:33 PM EDT
    YES! If there is no opportunity to “fix” we don’t really ever know if they learned from their mistakes #IDedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio, @WinkelerD, @averyteach
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:34 PM EDT
    Q5: What assessments do you design that aren't "multiple choice?" #IDedchat
  • hiccupc Aug 29 @ 10:34 PM EDT
    Not #IDedchat related, but apparently don't hit the power button 3 times on an iphone. 911 phone call ensues.
  • LCHS_Bio Aug 29 @ 10:34 PM EDT
    Sometimes it is summative for some and formative for others. Depends on DOK, how quickly they pick up on content. It’s true differentiation for me. #IDedchat
    In reply to @LitCoachBrandon, @WinkelerD, @averyteach
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:34 PM EDT
    Oops....did you just learn that as it happened? :-) #IDedchat
    In reply to @hiccupc
  • LCHS_Bio Aug 29 @ 10:35 PM EDT
    I provide feedback through rubrics/comments I make on lab reports, projects, etc. It is pushing Ss past boundaries that they never had before. #IDedchat
    In reply to @averyteach, @WinkelerD
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:35 PM EDT
    I know we have answered this throughout tonight - but let's get into specific detail... Like...when you have students do a project, how DO you assess? #IDedchat
  • WinkelerD Aug 29 @ 10:35 PM EDT
    Through the feedback that I give and that their peers give. #idedchat
    In reply to @averyteach, @LCHS_Bio
  • LitCoachBrandon Aug 29 @ 10:35 PM EDT
    Q6: Performance tasks, essays, Socratic seminars, constructed responses, visual representations of themes, characters, etc. in literature... #idedchat #idcoachnet
  • LitCoachBrandon Aug 29 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    #idedchat
    In reply to @hiccupc
  • WinkelerD Aug 29 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    A5: Projects and presentations. #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    Love ALL of these.....How do you determine student success or growth in each of these? #IDedchat
    • LitCoachBrandon Aug 29 @ 10:35 PM EDT
      Q6: Performance tasks, essays, Socratic seminars, constructed responses, visual representations of themes, characters, etc. in literature... #idedchat #idcoachnet
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:37 PM EDT
    Love these - how do you determine student success in these? #IDedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Aug 29 @ 10:38 PM EDT
    R6: lab reports, essays, 9 page spreads, @WeVideo projects, @Flipgrid questions, posters, group activities, construction applications. Endless possibilities. My classes could seriously go the year w/o MC tests if I could. #idedchat
  • WinkelerD Aug 29 @ 10:39 PM EDT
    For my business management/entrepreneurship class I ask the students, "would you buy it?" and the class votes based on the presentation/project. #idedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • LitCoachBrandon Aug 29 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    Each one would be handled differently. For example, a student who is hesitant to participate in a Socratic seminar could show growth by first using a chatting app to backchannel and then verbally participate. In both cases the S shows her learning #idedchat #idcoachnet
    In reply to @averyteach
  • hiccupc Aug 29 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    All great options. Saving these, tracking options, and capturing growth is always the challenge. Tagging objectives and competencies is key. #IDedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio, @WeVideo, @Flipgrid
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:41 PM EDT
    Q6: How do you include student voice and choice in assessment? How do you consider learning differences? #IDedchat
  • BDicksonNV Aug 29 @ 10:41 PM EDT
    Awesome having real world outcomes for students.. that’s the bottom line of any business, have something somebody wants #IDedchat
    In reply to @WinkelerD, @averyteach
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:41 PM EDT
    Love the opportunity for student choice to demonstrate learning - more than one way to approach! #IDedchat
    In reply to @LitCoachBrandon
  • WinkelerD Aug 29 @ 10:42 PM EDT
    A6: For my projects there is some open-endedness that they have. They are free to be creative with the project and try to "sell" it to their peers. #idedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Aug 29 @ 10:44 PM EDT
    R6: when Ss can pick their Avenue for learning, select a passion for learning to develop the outcome. Tap their creativity level. I give very little guidance for Ss developing a cell model. Some use computers, some drawings, some cakes. #idedchat
  • LitCoachBrandon Aug 29 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    A6: Essay prompts often had an open-ended quality to them so students could meet the writing standard but focus on a topic or approach that felt meaningful to them. #idedchat #idcoachnet
  • hiccupc Aug 29 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    I love this. The challenge for so many is what does your classroom look like on a typical day? #idedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:46 PM EDT
    Great responses on choice - what about students who are at different levels of learning (such as EL students)? #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:48 PM EDT
    Q7: Why is feedback key to student growth? How do you incorporate feedback in assessment? #IDedchat
  • WinkelerD Aug 29 @ 10:49 PM EDT
    A7: Without feedback how are they to know that they grew in the first place? #idedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Aug 29 @ 10:49 PM EDT
    Seriously, it’s loud. Kids are working at their “own pace”. Ss are in seats that are in pods of 4. Some pull away on their own, some pods become pods of 5-6 Ss. #IDedchat
    In reply to @hiccupc
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:49 PM EDT
    A7: It is through feedback (both from the teacher and peers) that students can improve - specific and actionable. #IDedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Aug 29 @ 10:50 PM EDT
    My EL Ss are expected to learn the content. I translate work into native language. As the year progresses, I begin to expect work in English. This is a perk of google docs. #IDedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • LitCoachBrandon Aug 29 @ 10:50 PM EDT
    A7: I spend a good deal of time now providing non-evaluative feedback on Ts ideas for their @IDcoachingnet unit. I wish I'd been as purposeful w/ my high school Ss as I am with my adult learners. A lot of feedback along the way rather than at the end. #idcoachnet #idedchat
  • hiccupc Aug 29 @ 10:50 PM EDT
    Trust in their T in this situation is key though. Goes back to classroom culture. #idedchat
    In reply to @WinkelerD
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:51 PM EDT
    Feedback can help student work become "the best version" - Feedback isn't evaluative - it is feedback...asks "what if" or "I notice" #IDedchat
  • LitCoachBrandon Aug 29 @ 10:52 PM EDT
    This makes me think about using something like a choice board or Bingo card where Ss can choose from a variety of ways to demonstrate learning. #idedchat #idcoachnet
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:52 PM EDT
    Word! I think about that daily. #IDedchat
    In reply to @LitCoachBrandon, @IDcoachingnet
  • LCHS_Bio Aug 29 @ 10:52 PM EDT
    R7: I have a project coming up—“How a Cell Is Like A Factory”. Ss are expected to have their 5 paragraph essay peer reviewed. I’ll look at this as part of the overall grade. They will submit and I will type feedback for them. They will make corrections on feedback #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:52 PM EDT
    Yes. #IDedchat
    In reply to @hiccupc, @WinkelerD
  • WinkelerD Aug 29 @ 10:53 PM EDT
    Trust is key. Without that trust though it is tough for Ss and Ts with feedback. #idedchat
    In reply to @hiccupc
  • LitCoachBrandon Aug 29 @ 10:53 PM EDT
    Not tying a grade to things relieves some stress of providing feedback. The feedback for Ts - for units or classroom observations - is just for them to consider strengths and opportunities for growth. It's never an evaluation of their work. #idedchat #idcoachnet
    In reply to @averyteach
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:54 PM EDT
    Q8: Do all assessments need a "grade?" Why or Why not? #IDedchat
  • hiccupc Aug 29 @ 10:54 PM EDT
    My take away from tonight's chat: @averyteach replying with "Word". Only thing that could have improved that is adding "to your mama." #IDedchat
    In reply to @averyteach, @LitCoachBrandon, @IDcoachingnet, @averyteach
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:54 PM EDT
    LOL! #IDedchat
    In reply to @hiccupc, @LitCoachBrandon, @IDcoachingnet
  • LitCoachBrandon Aug 29 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    #idedchat
    In reply to @hiccupc, @averyteach, @IDcoachingnet
  • WinkelerD Aug 29 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    A8: No. Because it is not about the grade, it is about the knowledge gained and being able to apply it in the future. #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    Brandon! You continually anticipate my next question for the chat! :-) Love it! #IDedchat
    In reply to @LitCoachBrandon
  • LitCoachBrandon Aug 29 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    I feel like I've been psychic and one step ahead of your questions tonight! #idedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • LCHS_Bio Aug 29 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    R8: assessments do not need graded. I have a lab my Ss did yesterday working on metric conversions. It gave me a ton of info, yet all I did was glimpse at the work they did. Let’s me know what I need to cover tomorrow. #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:56 PM EDT
    A8: We have to be conscious of the fact that once a "grade" is attached to something, learning tends to stop - even if "redos" are allowed. It is the feedback that pushes learning forward - not the grade. #IDedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Aug 29 @ 10:56 PM EDT
    R8: IMO, we could just have the EOC /ECA be the only summative assessment. Would be interesting. #idedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Aug 29 @ 10:57 PM EDT
    Yes!! #IDedchat
    In reply to @LitCoachBrandon, @averyteach
  • LitCoachBrandon Aug 29 @ 10:57 PM EDT
    A8: No. Some argue that formative assessments should never be for a grade because Ss are practicing towards mastering skills that will be demonstrated on a summative. I could have Ss give a thumbs up/down for a formative; grading that would be weird #idcoachnet #idedchat
  • WinkelerD Aug 29 @ 10:57 PM EDT
    I had students write a "code of ethics" for their business. Tough to assign when it is unique to their company and the things they want their employees to abide by. I took your similar approach #idedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:57 PM EDT
    That was my first thought...but then, I just wanted to be different. HA HA! :-) #IDedchat
    In reply to @hiccupc, @LitCoachBrandon, @IDcoachingnet
  • LCHS_Bio Aug 29 @ 10:58 PM EDT
    This year I have some competitive Ss and they want to do better. They work on progress. I think it is establishing the culture of “grades” and “feedback” the first few days of class. #IDedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • BDicksonNV Aug 29 @ 10:59 PM EDT
    #bam #IDedchat
    In reply to @WinkelerD
  • averyteach - Moderator Aug 29 @ 10:59 PM EDT
    What great thoughts were shared tonight! Thanks also to everyone who joined #IDedchat last week in my absence. I just LOVE this PLN! We need to get more folks to join us!