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Moments away from #sblchat where we will explore ways to focus on learning and shift away from the "game of school"

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Good evening & welcome to #sblchat! We are talking about stopping the game of school for the sake of student learning. Please start intros!

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Blast Off! #HereWeGrow with #SBLchat tonight and making the SHIFT to Learning from the 'game of school'. @garnet_hillman

MrsMurat Mar 23 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Students combat haters and trolls. Would love your feedback. TY! https://t.co/Gy7VfoeMlD #enviored #livedchat #sblchat #nebedchat #psychat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:00 PM EDT

@PrincipalSteveA Steve, pleased to see you in #sblchat tonight!

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:00 PM EDT

@PrincipalSteveA Good evening Steve! #sblchat

CHS_Morris Mar 23 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Logan here, 9/10 Eng. teacher #nebedchat #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT

@CHS_Morris Hi Logan! #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT

Rik in MA, a facilitator of Learning with a focus on #hsMath and honored to lead alongside the Incredible @garnet_hillman tonight! #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT

@CHS_Morris Glad to learn with you, Logan! #sblchat

j_ozbolt Mar 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT

Jason HS Dean from IL #sblchat

Meffscience Mar 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT

Steve Mefford from Urbandale, Iowa. Thunderstorms in the south of the state and a foot of snow in the north. I love spring : ) #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT

@j_ozbolt Hello friend! We will find a time to connect soon. #sblchat

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT

Hey #sblchat! I'm Shari, a HS English teacher in NJ

stampingout Mar 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT

My school's motto is Play the Game. It's good advice. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT

@Meffscience We love Spring and, Steve, we love you! #sblchat

bizedteach Mar 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT

Scott in MN. High School Business Ed. #sblchat

SFHStennis Mar 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT

Scott in MN. High School Business Ed. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT

@Meffscience Hi Steve! We have a chance of snow tomorrow... #sblchat

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT

Megan, HS Mathematics T from west suburbs of Chicago. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT

@bizedteach Welcome Scott! #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT

@Mrs_Krapels Hi Shari! #sblchat

DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Doug from Boston - good evening everyone. #sblchat https://t.co/9td2zVw02X

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Dave - HS SS in Iowa ready to get my learning on tonight with the #sblchat crew.

KatieBudrow Mar 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Hiya #sblchat ... Katie, 6th grade science teacher, tweeting from the Chicagoland area tonight! So happy to be here!!

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT

@SFHStennis Scott, pleased you are here! #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT

@SFHStennis Good evening Scott! #sblchat

Meffscience Mar 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Always glad to be appreciated and learn from the best #sblchat https://t.co/NuuM0GyW6s

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT

@Meffscience We love Spring and, Steve, we love you! #sblchat

CVULearns Mar 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Good evening everyone...Stan from VT #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT

@DouglasReeves Glad you are able to join us Doug! #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT

@MeganCMoMo Hi Megan! Great to be with you! #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT

@MeganCMoMo Hi Megan! #sblchat

CHS_Morris Mar 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT

@RoweRikW Ditto! #sblchat

lorimcewen Mar 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Lori McEwen from Providence, RI. Glad to be here tonight. #sblchat

Meffscience Mar 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT

@garnet_hillman Probably our leftovers #sblchat

kenoc7 Mar 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Not if it is a grading game rather than a learning game. #sblchat https://t.co/hIPMxOeeWM

stampingout Mar 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT

My school's motto is Play the Game. It's good advice. #sblchat

DocRitterHville Mar 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Steve from mid-Missouri. Happy to be along for the ride! #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT

@CVULearns Stan, Welcome! #sblchat

lackeykimberly Mar 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Kim, Spanish teacher from near St Louis #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT

@DRich0696 Always great to chat with you Dave! #sblchat

RESP3CTtheGAME Mar 23 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Brian, HS comm arts in WI. Basketball season is over. Great to be back on #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:03 PM EDT

@Meffscience Keep them to yourselves! #sblchat

bizedteach Mar 23 @ 9:03 PM EDT

@RoweRikW Hello Rik! #sblchat

BradLatzke Mar 23 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Brad in Bangkok. Ready for another fast-paced #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:03 PM EDT

@KatieBudrow Hello friend! #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:03 PM EDT

@DocRitterHville Steve, it could be a rough ride so Hold On! #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:03 PM EDT

@CVULearns So glad you are with us tonight Stan! #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:03 PM EDT

@lorimcewen Welcome Lori! #sblchat

kenoc7 Mar 23 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Ken O’Connor, author/consultant/teacher, snowbird in The Villages, FL for a few more weeks. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:03 PM EDT

@RESP3CTtheGAME Brian, great to have you back! #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:03 PM EDT

@DocRitterHville Good evening Steve! #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Like this tweet if you're new to #sblchat so we can welcome you to our Crew! Connect with Edu-Greats here tonight! @garnet_hillman

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT

@BradLatzke Brad, you are always welcome in #sblchat !

mjjohnson1216 Mar 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Evening #sblchat Meredith from IL = looking forward to learning from all of you!

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT

@kenoc7 Hi Ken! Glad to chat with you tonight. #sblchat

bizedteach Mar 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT

10" of snow in southern MN tonight :( #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT

@lackeykimberly Hi Kim! #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT

@kenoc7 Yes!! Ken in here! #sblchat

CoachLesterBHS Mar 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT

@RoweRikW @garnet_hillman Not new, but hoping to be able to contribute more tonight. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT

@RESP3CTtheGAME Awesome to have you join us Brian! #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT

@mjjohnson1216 Meredith, greetings to you! #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT

@CoachLesterBHS @RoweRikW We are ready for your experiences and insight! #sblchat

MaryLindseyELA Mar 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Mary, HS English teacher from CA. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Q1 What does the ‘game of school’ look like for kids? #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT

What? #sblchat #SNOW https://t.co/lfOJtmRtke

bizedteach Mar 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT

10" of snow in southern MN tonight :( #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT

@BradLatzke Hi Brad! #sblchat

PLloydHenry Mar 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Good evening #sblchat -I'm Phiona a HS teacher/curricular head in Ontario

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT

@bizedteach Please keep it! #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT

@mjjohnson1216 Good evening Meredith! #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT

@MaryLindseyELA Mary, pleased to welcome you to #sblchat tonight!

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT

So happy to see some twitter friends! @RESP3CTtheGAME @DRich0696 @bizedteach @RoweRikW @garnet_hillman @CoachLesterBHS #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT

@MaryLindseyELA So glad you can join us Mary! #sblchat

Meffscience Mar 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT

A1: Chasing points in order to reach a mark rather than learn the material #sblchat

stampingout Mar 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Let's discuss this platitude of SBL: "You are focused on knowledge, not on points." Are these mutually exclusive? #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT

A1 Students play the game of school when they seek points rather than learning in the classroom. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT

@PLloydHenry Phino, greetings to you! Jump in! #sblchat

j_ozbolt Mar 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT

A1: How many pts can I get and can I fly under the radar and get by #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT

@PLloydHenry Glad to have you with us Phiona! #sblchat

CHS_Morris Mar 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT

A1: Most students view it as a job, and don't want to be here #sblchat

bizedteach Mar 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Good to see you too, @MeganCMoMo. I haven't been in the chat for a few weeks. #sblchat

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT

A1: Doing homework on time and being rewarded with points to offset their lack of understanding on tests. #sblchat

DocRitterHville Mar 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT

A1 Compliance, getting work done rather than learning. Routine assignments & activities instead of authentic learning experiences #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Let's welcome Linda {@LindaJaredEdu} to our #sblchat Crew tonight! #HighFives

stampingout Mar 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT

How can I reconcile SB grading with the knowledge that SAT tests are timed? #sblchat

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT

A1: Ss are "gaming" school when the focus is on the grade & not the learning - "what can I do to get the A?" & not "earn the A?" #sblchat

RealMrTruran Mar 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT

@hhschiaravalli currently on a plane heading toward the gate at DTW. I'll follow along from the baggage claim. A #sblchat first?

DerrickJCameron Mar 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Derrick from Saskatchewan-good evening #sblchat

MizzBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Good evening everyone! Wendy here Elementary Vice Principal #sblchat

mjjohnson1216 Mar 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Social connections are the reason most Ss attend school. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT

A1 Playing the game creates a competitive environment where students feel there are winners and losers. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT

#STOPIT - I could not resist... #sblchat https://t.co/TMLKRPB5qP

Meffscience Mar 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT

A1: Chasing points in order to reach a mark rather than learn the material #sblchat

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT

@MeganCMoMo Great to see you too Megan! #sblchat

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT

A1: I see kids being compliant as playing the game. Do what I am told and I shall achieve the goal. #sblchat

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT

@stampingout they shouldn't be, but too often are - if not mutually exclusive, at least not closely related enough #sblchat

bizedteach Mar 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT

A1 Only seeking particular grade #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT

@MizzBanhan Welcome Wendy! #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Ouch! #sblchat https://t.co/8bZEOVX2Nh

CHS_Morris Mar 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT

A1: Most students view it as a job, and don't want to be here #sblchat

TammyDelaney1 Mar 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Hi, Tammy - 6ht grade teacher/instructional coach #sblchat

CoachLesterBHS Mar 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT

A1- What do I need to get an A? Just tell me how you want me to do it. Grade grubbing. Hoop jumping. Not real learning. #sblchat

kenoc7 Mar 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT

A1 Everything “counts" and accumulate as many points as you can and your grades will be good regardless of whether you learned. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT

@TammyDelaney1 Hi Tammy! #sblchat

chemjulie79 Mar 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Interested in jumping in where I can. I'm Julie, an assistant principal in Dublin #sblchat

PeterBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Hello , peter from peeldsb #sblchat

MizzBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT

That's easy ... if they are smart they give the teacher exactly what they asked for! #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT

Painful... #sblchat https://t.co/QSDunsAP8f

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT

A1: Doing homework on time and being rewarded with points to offset their lack of understanding on tests. #sblchat

lackeykimberly Mar 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1 Doing what you are told, figuring out what is valued based on what points are given for and doing those things #sblchat

PrincipalSteveA Mar 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1 - a collection of points that has displaced learning. #sblchat

leighmragsdale Mar 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT

Good Evening #sblchat. Leigh here from Mid Missouri. HS Assistant Principal & excited to learn!

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT

Walk of shame? #sblchat https://t.co/APVIJpdqXO

DocRitterHville Mar 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT

A1 Compliance, getting work done rather than learning. Routine assignments & activities instead of authentic learning experiences #sblchat

BClarksonTX Mar 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT

Late but here! Sorry! Brent from Katy, TX. 7th grade science T. #sblchat

MaryLindseyELA Mar 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1: doing the bare minimum to get by. Focused on the grade not the learning. Reasonable reaction to our depersonalized Ed system. #sblchat

stampingout Mar 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT

Shouldn't students appreciate that endless re-dos cultivates a sense of entitlement and may result in future troubles? #sblchat

RESP3CTtheGAME Mar 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1 Game of school means hearing the question, "Does this count?" Yes. Everything. We. Do. Counts #sblchat

mjjohnson1216 Mar 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1. Wondering what % could care less about a grade and more about peers and social connections #sblchat

LindaJaredEdu Mar 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT

Thanks! Looking forward to learning from the #sblchat Crew on this rainy night in southwestern Ontario. https://t.co/jcxM9kaj2k

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Let's welcome Linda {@LindaJaredEdu} to our #sblchat Crew tonight! #HighFives

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT

@leighmragsdale Hi Leigh- Thanks for joining us! #sblchat

lorimcewen Mar 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1: Grade grubbing. B- is "good enough". Not always a joyful game! #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT

@DerrickJCameron Derrick, welcome! #sblchat

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1: When I ask Ss what their goal is for my class at the start of the year - 95% say to get a (insert grade). #sblchat

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT

@CoachLesterBHS hoop jumping, box checking, and all variations thereof #sblchat

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT

accumulate points - regardless of learning - so sad that this still happens #sblchat https://t.co/l6ZQIXHD07

kenoc7 Mar 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT

A1 Everything “counts" and accumulate as many points as you can and your grades will be good regardless of whether you learned. #sblchat

chemjulie79 Mar 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1: students can't find a place to grow in their interests #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT

@BClarksonTX No worries, glad to have you with us Brent! #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT

@MizzBanhan Wendy, glad to have you in #sblchat with our Crew!

BradLatzke Mar 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT

A1 For some, the game of school starts very early - get good grades so I can get in good college so I can get good job. #sblchat

kenoc7 Mar 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT

@stampingout Not necessarily mutually exclusive but they are exclusive for kids who only think “Does this count.” #sblchat

CVULearns Mar 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT

"Just Tell Me How to Get an A" Blog by one of our Ts about the game of school and changes that are needed. #sblchat https://t.co/bizFyxWeLb

stampingout Mar 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT

Evidence? Points come from learning. #sblchat https://t.co/XkxyzpYtb6

PrincipalSteveA Mar 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1 - a collection of points that has displaced learning. #sblchat

TammyDelaney1 Mar 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT

Ss just go through the motions. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT

On their devices ALL the time. #STOPIT #sblchat https://t.co/UvHlEn3DwQ

mjjohnson1216 Mar 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Social connections are the reason most Ss attend school. #sblchat

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT

@MaryLindseyELA 100% We cannot shirk all responsibility for creating this #sblchat

lorimcewen Mar 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT

@mjjohnson1216 Peers & social connection can be powerful learning forces-we should stress more of that in learning. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT

Settling... #sblchat https://t.co/YLXoTD42RS

bizedteach Mar 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT

A1 Only seeking particular grade #sblchat

MaryLindseyELA Mar 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT

A1: "tell me what I need to do to get by just don't make me think for myself" #sblchat

stampingout Mar 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT

Where's the proof?! What might they be doing after school? At home? The future?! #sblchat https://t.co/r9WA2LPstV

chemjulie79 Mar 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1: students can't find a place to grow in their interests #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT

@TammyDelaney1 Tammy, nice to see you tonight! #sblchat

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT

Let us not forget that the system taught them to play this game. Many of us played this game at times too. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT

@PeterBanhan Hello Peter! #sblchat

bravesearth Mar 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT

@RoweRikW @CHS_Morris Someone posted a tweet the other day that asked Would still have a job if they weren't forced to be here? #sblchat

hhschiaravalli Mar 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT

A1: Jumping through non-academic hoops more related to compliance than demonstrating learning #sblchat

leighmragsdale Mar 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT

It's easy. Look interested, fly under the radar, turn in assignments. It has NOTHING to do with LEARNING! I was a PRO growing up #sblchat

mjjohnson1216 Mar 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT

So many have given up on the academic aspect after years of failure and attend for peer interaction. #sblchat https://t.co/qyCGDzr0va

lorimcewen Mar 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT

@mjjohnson1216 Peers & social connection can be powerful learning forces-we should stress more of that in learning. #sblchat

PLloydHenry Mar 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT

A1: unfortunately, too many Ss see it as a chore, a place where they are rewarded for compliance and conforming to norms #sblchat

rickwormeli2 Mar 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT

#sblchat Hi! ;Puppy sitting w/2 puppies wrestling abt who gets to overturn potted plants,chew thru couch cushions first.Sporadic part 2nite.

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT

HUGE! #sblchat https://t.co/fOlOBZ9g2Q

bravesearth Mar 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT

@RoweRikW @CHS_Morris Someone posted a tweet the other day that asked Would still have a job if they weren't forced to be here? #sblchat

kenoc7 Mar 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT

@DerrickJCameron Are you a member or do you know about CAfLN? See cafln.ca #sblchat

stampingout Mar 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT

What the heck does that mean?! #sblchat https://t.co/0Tww2vkIp3

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT

@MaryLindseyELA 100% We cannot shirk all responsibility for creating this #sblchat

DocRitterHville Mar 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT

A1 Like driving for adults - we do it automatically and don't remember half the drive. Kids do the same to play the game of school #sblchat

MizzBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT

Stay quiet = "such a good student"! #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT

Compliance... #sblchat https://t.co/I9Lyu4cRzd

MizzBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT

That's easy ... if they are smart they give the teacher exactly what they asked for! #sblchat

RESP3CTtheGAME Mar 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT

@MeganCMoMo Great point, Megan. And many Ps experienced the same system #sblchat

DerrickJCameron Mar 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT

A1 game of school results in disengaged Ss, beh problems and giving Ts what they want...no creativity...no risk taking #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT

@rickwormeli2 Hi Rick! Well, it is national puppy day, so this seems fitting :) #sblchat

TammyDelaney1 Mar 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT

Glad to be able to join in. It has been awhile. Always a great chat! #sblchat https://t.co/eg2rgvJofM

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT

@TammyDelaney1 Tammy, nice to see you tonight! #sblchat

lorimcewen Mar 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT

@leighmragsdale Can we really say NOTHING to do w/learning? I played game, too, but learned more in some classes than others. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT

@leighmragsdale Leigh, pleased to see you in #sblchat tonight.

BClarksonTX Mar 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT

A1: Constantly getting the Q, "Is this for a grade?" #sblchat

stampingout Mar 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT

Shakespeare reminds us that life is but a game. Why should school be different? #sblchat https://t.co/KbjbvDasxq

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT

Let us not forget that the system taught them to play this game. Many of us played this game at times too. #sblchat

PeterBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT

A1. Conformity is the order of the day, those who fail to conform usually recommended for alternative placement #sblchat

MizzBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT

The most marbles in your jar! #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT

@leighmragsdale Me too...pro game player! #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT

@BClarksonTX Yes, Brent, we are glad to see you! #sblchat

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT

@stampingout that Ts have taken part in creating a culture that focuses on numbers and letters rather than learning #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT

Q2 How can moving to a standards based system remove the game of school? #sblchat

DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT

A1: Perhaps we should consider the outliers - when are students truly engaged and not just playing the grade game? #sblchat

mfinnRScoach Mar 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT

A1: "learning the teacher" rather than learning #sblchat

KatieBudrow Mar 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT

@garnet_hillman Hiya!! :) #sblchat

Ms_Heilsberg Mar 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT

YES! Been trying to change the Ss mindset with this #sblchat https://t.co/5SXieqsnfB

kenoc7 Mar 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT

A1 Everything “counts" and accumulate as many points as you can and your grades will be good regardless of whether you learned. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT

#HereWeGrow #sblchat https://t.co/a8mtL4LofF

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT

Q2 How can moving to a standards based system remove the game of school? #sblchat

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT

So as it stands, Ps and Ss don't see it as a game. It is us who will change this. #sblchat https://t.co/nzAQDW4DK0

RESP3CTtheGAME Mar 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT

@MeganCMoMo Great point, Megan. And many Ps experienced the same system #sblchat

Meffscience Mar 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT

A2: The focus changes to learning the material instead of chasing points. It's all about the learning #sblchat

MaryLindseyELA Mar 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT

@MeganCMoMo I have the same experience. Maybe next year I'll ask what do you want to learn vs what is your goal for this class #sblchat

WaltKozlowski Mar 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT

Good evening. Walt from SE Michigan checking in late to #sblchat

DerrickJCameron Mar 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT

@kenoc7 not a member and have heard about it only briefly...very interested as my Ed.D is in assessment and PLCs #sblchat

jamesmcguire85 Mar 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT

A1: performance is more important than the journey or learning. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT

We need to #MakeLearningPersonal #sblchat https://t.co/zsXxtODfio

chemjulie79 Mar 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1: students can't find a place to grow in their interests #sblchat

KatieBudrow Mar 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT

A2 Puts the focus squarely on the learning. All the other stuff is nice, but only as a detail. Learning is the main idea. #sblchat

lorimcewen Mar 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT

@DouglasReeves I'm a HUGE fan of SBL, yet recognize that these two are not always mutually exclusive. #sblchat

CHS_Morris Mar 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT

A2: Not sure. Communicating the WHY is most important #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT

A2 In a standards based classroom learning is not a race to a finish line, rather a journey with checkpoints along the way. #sblchat

j_ozbolt Mar 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT

A2: If Ss know what the target is and how to get there, no "playing the game" is needed #sblchat

TammyDelaney1 Mar 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT

A2 Ss have to show their learning rather than replicate it. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT

@Ms_Heilsberg I removed the points and 'earning' grades. We demonstrated learning and talked about proficiency levels instead. #sblchat

RealMrTruran Mar 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT

A1: Knowing how to appease teachers and parents #sblchat

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT

Great idea! I have also discussed the difference between learners and students. GOOD CONVO!! #sblchat https://t.co/AYSScdXttQ

MaryLindseyELA Mar 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT

@MeganCMoMo I have the same experience. Maybe next year I'll ask what do you want to learn vs what is your goal for this class #sblchat

lackeykimberly Mar 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT

A1 One issue to address in WL is learning Vocab in short term mem to get A on quiz, but not retaining for future communicative use #sblchat

WaltKozlowski Mar 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT

A1: Do enough to get by. Minimal effort, cheat if necessary, don't get caught. #sblchat

CoachLesterBHS Mar 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT

@garnet_hillman A2- It's about what Ss can do and know, not when they know/do it. #sblchat

Ms_Heilsberg Mar 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT

Live working with them and see what they know and don't know. Learning! That's what they need! #sblchat https://t.co/u7H45ItNUI

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT

Q2 How can moving to a standards based system remove the game of school? #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT

This hurts... #sblchat https://t.co/RTFG7LkOBE

MaryLindseyELA Mar 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT

A1: "tell me what I need to do to get by just don't make me think for myself" #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A2 With SBL, we are criterion referenced rather than norm referenced which takes away an atmosphere of gaming. #sblchat

DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A2: Let’s face it - S’s can game SBL as surely as they game traditional grades. It’s more than SBG - it’s engaged learning. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

@WaltKozlowski Thanks for joining us Walt! #sblchat

stampingout Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

Those 2 things are also NOT mutually exclusive. I do admit, however, that is 2 often the goals of students. #sblchat https://t.co/xvK8KIBFQX

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT

A2 In a standards based classroom learning is not a race to a finish line, rather a journey with checkpoints along the way. #sblchat

chemjulie79 Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A2: Continues to reinforce a growth mindset - we can always improve #sblchat

kenoc7 Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

Sad but true. Traditional grading and 4 year GPA’s are gender discrimination - against boys! #sblchat https://t.co/LVUQMVQ46N

PeterBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT

A1. Conformity is the order of the day, those who fail to conform usually recommended for alternative placement #sblchat

DocRitterHville Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

Q2 Have to get out of routine of the GNR and getting points. Have to defend/prove learning instead of just turning something in #sblchat

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A2: by raising the bar and re-centering revision as valuable part of the learning process #sblchat

CrystalBates79 Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A2: It puts a responsibility of learning on the students. #sblchat

Americans2012 Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A2 it's all about learning providing evidence for learning #sblchat

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A2: We separate learning from behaviors. #sblchat

perryafinch Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A1:Hi everyone. Kids will play grade grub game unless Ts change the focus of school. We've seen Ss' attitudes shift w T guidance #sblchat

bravesearth Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A2: There is always the threat of it still being a game. Just with different rules. #sblchat

PLloydHenry Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A1: for some Ss, it is sometimes a respite - a place with established standards/norms #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

We prefer chaotic and collaborative learning... #sblchat https://t.co/fr04YEtmhA

MizzBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT

Stay quiet = "such a good student"! #sblchat

LoadmanHHS Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

@RoweRikW don't y'all hurt Rowe he's FRA-GI-LE...I think that's Italian? #sblchat

stampingout Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

And that's why the US is continuing to do poorly on the PISA test. #sblchat https://t.co/xvK8KIBFQX

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT

A2 In a standards based classroom learning is not a race to a finish line, rather a journey with checkpoints along the way. #sblchat

lorimcewen Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A2: SBL as mandate alone won't do it--It's a mindset shift that embraces multiple opps to demonstrate proficiency, etc. #sblchat

MizzBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

R u kidding? Then no room for creativity, innovation and curiosity! #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT

RT Q2 How can moving to a standards based system remove the game of school? #sblchat

CVULearns Mar 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT

A2 SBL is about changing the metaphor from compensation to communication. https://t.co/8dnCZHapo3 #sblchat

Ms_Heilsberg Mar 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT

Yes. Ts think my room is chaos. I say constructive chaos. #sblchat https://t.co/EHW00bzgfn

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT
We prefer chaotic and collaborative learning... #sblchat https://t.co/fr04YEtmhA
- MizzBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT
  
  Stay quiet = "such a good student"! #sblchat

BClarksonTX Mar 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT

A2: A move to SBG leads to chasing the learning rather than the points. This has become a major goal of mine this year. Mindshift. #sblchat

WaltKozlowski Mar 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT

A2: Difficult to fake learning. Achieving standards required buy-in. Earning points is more like buying. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT

@WaltKozlowski Pleased to see you Walt. #sblchat

jamesmcguire85 Mar 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT

A2: sb changes the focus off of the A,B, or C to reaching a learning goal. #sblchat

DocRitterHville Mar 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT

Comes down to how you are also assessing kids. Oral defense, demonstrating so much more powerful #sblchat https://t.co/fjNoQHn16U

DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A2: Let’s face it - S’s can game SBL as surely as they game traditional grades. It’s more than SBG - it’s engaged learning. #sblchat

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT

A2:When main goal is to hit LEARNING targets,the compliance game cannot be played.Can't ask for more pts if I don't use them #sblchat #learn

Americans2012 Mar 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT

@RoweRikW @garnet_hillman #sblchat Q2 no points 4 coloring sheets or wearing ur fav football team only true assessment if learning #sblchat

Americans2012 Mar 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT

@RoweRikW @garnet_hillman #sblchat Q2 no points 4 coloring sheets or wearing ur fav football team only true assessment if learning #sblchat

MaryLindseyELA Mar 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT

A2: focuses on the learning not the grade. My struggle is getting Ss to choose to revise/retake. #sblchat

stampingout Mar 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT

@KatieBudrow But how long can you give students? What's reasonable? School is hard. One shouldn't pretend otherwise. #sblchat

lackeykimberly Mar 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT

A2 In WL, make assessments real world, meaningful, develop ss cultural and global competence, connect to bigger goals, why? #sblchat

leighmragsdale Mar 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT

@lorimcewen nothing was a bit strong but I learned from projects, speeches, assessments.Where I couldn't hide behind my personality #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT

@MizzBanhan Thank you Wendy. #sblchat

TammyDelaney1 Mar 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT

So true! They have to own it. #sblchat https://t.co/tg7IiW8hN0

CrystalBates79 Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A2: It puts a responsibility of learning on the students. #sblchat

DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT

@MizzBanhan Exactly Wendy. Creativity and innovation require risk and error - and that means no averages or zeroes. #sblchat

mjjohnson1216 Mar 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT

A2. Belief it begins with the Ss buying into the Ts and then the learning can begin based on Ss voice #sblchat https://t.co/OF2M7BqGTk

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT

It is...? #sblchat https://t.co/r2niwXEaOM

jamesmcguire85 Mar 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT

A1: performance is more important than the journey or learning. #sblchat

CoachLesterBHS Mar 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT

@WaltKozlowski Love this. Can't fake what we do in class. Compliance can't hide lack of engagement and growth. #sblchat

leighmragsdale Mar 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT

@garnet_hillman It was easier than learning for sure. #sblchat

lorimcewen Mar 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT

@DouglasReeves Absolutely! &if we engage learners & allow multiple opps & stop averaging...then traditional grades less problematic #sblchat

stampingout Mar 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT

@Meffscience Tell that to Senior High School students. #sblchat

PLloydHenry Mar 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT

A2: A standards-based school system can make expectations explicit & transparent #sblchat

ryanjgrady Mar 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT

A1 best games allow anyone to play, are challenging & fun, and make you think. School should be no different. #sblchat

bizedteach Mar 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT

A2 There is no way to avoid the learning of the very specific criterion on which Ss will be evaluated #sblchat

BClarksonTX Mar 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT

A2b: We have to stop grading every single assignment. Give authentic feedback that promotes learning & encourages growth. #sblchat

Meffscience Mar 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT

A2: SBG---where the points don't matter #sblchat https://t.co/ksZojfHNPF

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT

@bravesearth What game have you seen played with SBG? Maybe we can brainstorm fixes. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT

BAM! #sblchat https://t.co/nltQEvpmkV

chemjulie79 Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A2: Continues to reinforce a growth mindset - we can always improve #sblchat

bravesearth Mar 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT

@MaryLindseyELA Don't make it an option. Make the retake part of the next assessment. #sblchat

RESP3CTtheGAME Mar 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT

@CVULearns Thank you for always generously sharing resources & reflections #sblchat https://t.co/AiYEtBL6Jo

CVULearns Mar 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT

A2 SBL is about changing the metaphor from compensation to communication. https://t.co/8dnCZHapo3 #sblchat

CVULearns Mar 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT

SBL is about switching the focus from teaching to learning (not a game) #sblchat

PeterBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT

Ss enter the system knowing the expectations #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT

Truth! #sblchat https://t.co/BWkX0LBazt

Americans2012 Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A2 it's all about learning providing evidence for learning #sblchat

DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT

@CoachLesterBHS Here’s my SBL shout-out to coaches everywhere: https://t.co/fdeyvtYDZQ #sblchat https://t.co/9td2zVw02X

PLloydHenry Mar 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT

A2:standards vs norm referenced system can make goals more attainable #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT

Crucial... #sblchat https://t.co/OrCyf7HGB8

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A2: We separate learning from behaviors. #sblchat

MizzBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT

Standards based = not culturally relevant ... No me in my learning! #sblchat

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT

Learning reported without numbers! I need to learn more about how you "fool" the grade book program. #sblchat https://t.co/HNrHG1Etmk

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT

A2:When main goal is to hit LEARNING targets,the compliance game cannot be played.Can't ask for more pts if I don't use them #sblchat #learn

Americans2012 Mar 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT

@mjjohnson1216 absolutely Ss don't learn 4 ppl they don't like relationships r so important #sblchat

leighmragsdale Mar 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT

WE MUST DO THIS! #sblchat https://t.co/8vdCTrQiWn

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A2: We separate learning from behaviors. #sblchat

PrincipalSteveA Mar 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT

A2 by focusing on learning evidence and removing components of grading that distort actual achievement #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT

We often have "Strategic Confusion" that turns into "Oh, I get it now!" #sblchat https://t.co/PeuD5WtNrG

Ms_Heilsberg Mar 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Yes. Ts think my room is chaos. I say constructive chaos. #sblchat https://t.co/EHW00bzgfn
- RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT
  
  We prefer chaotic and collaborative learning... #sblchat https://t.co/fr04YEtmhA
  
  MizzBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT
  
  Stay quiet = "such a good student"! #sblchat

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT

@ryanjgrady But the purpose of the game it not to collect points to advance. Its to collect knowledge and advance. #sblchat #bettergame

lorimcewen Mar 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT

A2: Less pressure AND more rigor: https://t.co/ZCQmJvyp15 #sblchat

rickwormeli2 Mar 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT

@stampingout @Meffscience #sblchat Yes, we should, and to their parents and college admissions officers, too.

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT

This is exactly the problem - not grading, but grading that's not reflecting learning #sblchat https://t.co/ve62w0JGYz

PrincipalSteveA Mar 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT

A2 by focusing on learning evidence and removing components of grading that distort actual achievement #sblchat

RealMrTruran Mar 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT

A2: It creates accountability for students and may increase creativity. The hard part is creating that culture within the school. #sblchat

MizzBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT

School is built for girls! Stay in your seat, smile pretty ... No messy learning! Not MY class! #sblchat

stampingout Mar 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT

Tell that to your surgeon. #sblchat https://t.co/sX4G74uZLA

TammyDelaney1 Mar 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT

A2 Ss have to show their learning rather than replicate it. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT

Whew!! #sblchat https://t.co/8DEtgkjNf1

Americans2012 Mar 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT

@RoweRikW @garnet_hillman #sblchat Q2 no points 4 coloring sheets or wearing ur fav football team only true assessment if learning #sblchat

BradLatzke Mar 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT

A2 Focusing on more frequent formative assessments by T, self, peers helps shift focus to learning. #sblchat

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT

@Meffscience I tell that to HS students regularly. #sblchat

kenoc7 Mar 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT

When senior high school students understand @Meffscience they will be much better prepared for post-HS. #sblchat https://t.co/BKlHmMCK9U

stampingout Mar 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT

@Meffscience Tell that to Senior High School students. #sblchat

LindaJaredEdu Mar 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT

So why do we still do this in schools? #sblchat https://t.co/RiFppudoXy

ValaAfshar Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT

According to management research firm CEB, 6% of Fortune 500 companies have stopped using annual performance reviews and forced rankings.

stampingout Mar 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT

Am I invisible??? #sblchat

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT

@DRich0696 I turn off in progress calculation. If that's not possible can you make everything "not for grade"? #sblchat

Meffscience Mar 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT

@rickwormeli2 @stampingout A huge paradigm shift for sure. Needs to happen though #sblchat

leighmragsdale Mar 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT

Practice what we preach #sblchat : Are We Really Preparing Our Students for the "Real... https://t.co/fc9HCyH5r6

Ms_Heilsberg Mar 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT

Stopped with some distractions once I let it be more chaos. Ss help each other and build upon each other #sblchat https://t.co/3XVhlp7Ueb

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT
We often have "Strategic Confusion" that turns into "Oh, I get it now!" #sblchat https://t.co/PeuD5WtNrG
- Ms_Heilsberg Mar 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT
  
  Yes. Ts think my room is chaos. I say constructive chaos. #sblchat https://t.co/EHW00bzgfn
  
  RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT
  
  We prefer chaotic and collaborative learning... #sblchat https://t.co/fr04YEtmhA
  
  MizzBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT
  
  Stay quiet = "such a good student"! #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT

Yes, #BetterTogether #sblchat https://t.co/RXlG5i88ws

chemjulie79 Mar 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT

@RoweRikW takes all stakeholders modeling the belief

PLloydHenry Mar 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT

@mjjohnson1216 you're right - though we wish to be transformative, we often have to settle for transactions #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT

Q3 When the game of school is in place, who are the ‘winners’? and the ‘losers’? #sblchat

DerrickJCameron Mar 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT

A2 SBG is only a small piece of a larger issue...if practices don't change or expectations, grading has no impact #sblchat

rickwormeli2 Mar 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT

@stampingout @KatieBudrow #sblchat Where in this is anyone pretending that school is easy? SBL is way more demanding than trad grading.

danieldmccabe Mar 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT

A2 SBG moves learning from compliance to engagement to empowerment. #sblchat https://t.co/ouvu7aUflZ

beebekienstra Mar 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT

@DRich0696 I find it very freeing - no points, no Extra Credit, easier really to assess #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT

Love this! #sblchat https://t.co/zBVk6Tv0YA

CVULearns Mar 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT

SBL is about switching the focus from teaching to learning (not a game) #sblchat

Meffscience Mar 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT

A3: Winners are students who are motivated by grades and points. Losers are kids who refuse to play the game of school #sblchat

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT

@stampingout nope! Reading your blog as we speak (Tweet, I guess) #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT

A3 ‘Winning the game’ can come from compliance, point collection, and/or achieving proficiency before other students. #sblchat

perryafinch Mar 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT

A2: Breakdown of expanded format card allows for strugglers to build confidence & secure Ss areas to still work. Learning focused. #sblchat

j_ozbolt Mar 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT

A3: Ss and Ts are losers as they really don't see how much Ss can learn and grow #sblchat

DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT

A3: Winners are quiet, compliant, non-creative (and often non-proficient) students - in particular . . #sblchat https://t.co/9td2zVw02X

stampingout Mar 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT

'Cause 94% still do?! Memory is key to an education. In knowledge lies wisdom. #sblchat https://t.co/aGGqkevqgy

LindaJaredEdu Mar 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT
So why do we still do this in schools? #sblchat https://t.co/RiFppudoXy
- ValaAfshar Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT
  
  According to management research firm CEB, 6% of Fortune 500 companies have stopped using annual performance reviews and forced rankings.

smartins3313 Mar 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT

It's crucial to create a culture of learning and philosophy of growth mindset. #sblchat https://t.co/aFaYRAGinD

RealMrTruran Mar 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT

A2: It creates accountability for students and may increase creativity. The hard part is creating that culture within the school. #sblchat

PeterBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT

A2. Standard base learning tends to reinforce dominance of certain groups #sblchat

lorimcewen Mar 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT

@rickwormeli2 @stampingout @KatieBudrow Completely agree! #sblchat

chemjulie79 Mar 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT

Give growth feedback and not a numerical grade. Sudents will respond IF they are guided. #sblchat

DocRitterHville Mar 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT

Hate seeing kids who had As in HS drop out of college because they never really had to study & learn #sblchat https://t.co/oKFtbmXFSN

kenoc7 Mar 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT
When senior high school students understand @Meffscience they will be much better prepared for post-HS. #sblchat https://t.co/BKlHmMCK9U
- stampingout Mar 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT
  
  @Meffscience Tell that to Senior High School students. #sblchat

kenoc7 Mar 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT

Just received a book today titled “Smart Boys, Bad Grades.” #sblchat https://t.co/53JDahmkrk

MizzBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT

School is built for girls! Stay in your seat, smile pretty ... No messy learning! Not MY class! #sblchat

CoachLesterBHS Mar 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT

A3- Winners are Ss who can game the system, don't mind jumping through hoops. Losers are Ss who don't know how, or don't care to. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT

We ALL must do this... #sblchat https://t.co/NE9CyPP7PT

leighmragsdale Mar 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT
WE MUST DO THIS! #sblchat https://t.co/8vdCTrQiWn
- DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT
  
  A2: We separate learning from behaviors. #sblchat

TammyDelaney1 Mar 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT

Q3 Winners? Those that can play the game #sblchat

bravesearth Mar 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT

@MeganCMoMo @DRich0696 I can grade however I want but am required to convert my grades into percentages. #sblchat

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT

A3: "A" Ss who have gamed the system win short term, but not necessarily long-term, but that seems to really be all #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT

A3 ’Losing the game’ could happen for Ss who don’t complete assignments or fail to achieve proficiency by a certain time. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT

@lorimcewen @rickwormeli2 @stampingout @KatieBudrow My students worked harder and produced higher quality work in the SB setting. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT

We must stop grading the Learning until we HAVE Learning... #sblchat

kenoc7 Mar 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT

No!!!!! #sblchat https://t.co/NfLsyNEx4j

stampingout Mar 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT

Am I invisible??? #sblchat

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT

A3: Losers are those who don't learn yet get moved forward because of teacher pleasing behaviors. #sblchat

CrystalBates79 Mar 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT

A3: We all lose. If its just a game, then no one is a true winner. In order to have winners, we needs authentic learning to occur. #sblchat

Ms_Heilsberg Mar 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT

@rickwormeli2 @stampingout @KatieBudrow my Ss see it being harder and have https://t.co/4zaQsS9oam harder. See school as not easy #sblchat

CVULearns Mar 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT

@DerrickJCameron exactly. This is our blog about how "SBG does not improve student learning" https://t.co/i7Pr1Ltso7 #sblchat

MizzBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT

Q3: in the game ...winners regurgitate ... Losers ask too many questions and want to know why! #sblchat

Americans2012 Mar 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT

@rickwormeli2 @stampingout @Meffscience absolutely if we all speak up 4 #sblchat & learning they will have start changing

beebekienstra Mar 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT

@TammyDelaney1 when grading behaviors the compliant kids win #sblchat

MandyStalets Mar 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT

A3: Winners are Ss who know how to play the game and don't put the focus on learning. Losers are students who take time to learn. #sblchat

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT

A3:Game is built for the middle class white student at my school Completely unfair to others that don't have lrning support at home #sblchat

mjjohnson1216 Mar 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT

A3. Winning combination is to include both of these from students. #sblchat https://t.co/1Nd9DhUoKt

JJBackeberg Mar 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT

Jumping in late... A1: "what do I need to do to get an A?" #sblchat

TTmomTT Mar 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT

Hey #sblchat Mandi from MO teaching HS Math

PLloydHenry Mar 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT

A3: schools all too often reflect the societies that create them; they replicate inequities & marginalize the already oppressed #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT

Did someone say @ShiftParadigm ? #sblchat https://t.co/wTkSAazuqA

Meffscience Mar 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT

@rickwormeli2 @stampingout A huge paradigm shift for sure. Needs to happen though #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT

RT Q3 When the game of school is in place, who are the ‘winners’? and the ‘losers’? #sblchat

DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT

A3: We don’t help girls by awarding good grades for quiet compliance. See “The Good Girl Effect” @MizzBanhan #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT

This! #sblchat https://t.co/VB5reUgAm2

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT

We must stop grading the Learning until we HAVE Learning... #sblchat

WaltKozlowski Mar 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT

A3: How are we defining "winning"? Good grades without true learning sounds like losing to me. #sblchat

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT

@stampingout Where do you stand on grading as it currently exists? Continue w/SOP and no revisions? Any change req'd? #sblchat

mr_kweiss Mar 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT

.@chemjulie79 does the dogma of school=grades make this a hard sell? #sblchat https://t.co/vTP4qx8ivD

chemjulie79 Mar 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT

Give growth feedback and not a numerical grade. Sudents will respond IF they are guided. #sblchat

lorimcewen Mar 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT

A3: All could be losing-top students may not be pushed to go deeper or further w/demonstrations of learning. #sblchat

hhschiaravalli Mar 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT

Back from chauffeuring kids. Arthur, APE and ELA 12 teacher from the Mitten. Great #sblchat topic tonight!

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT

@bravesearth @DRich0696 I will only convert my grade into % twice a year because our system want a traditional grade and matching % #sblchat

JJBackeberg Mar 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT

A2: Ss need to demonstrate knowledge vs point grubbing #sblchat

bizedteach Mar 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT

I would prefer that students can do/apply rather than simply remember, @stampingout #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT

Stunning Statement! #sblchat https://t.co/74v1ChEWlp

smartins3313 Mar 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT
It's crucial to create a culture of learning and philosophy of growth mindset. #sblchat https://t.co/aFaYRAGinD
- RealMrTruran Mar 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT
  
  A2: It creates accountability for students and may increase creativity. The hard part is creating that culture within the school. #sblchat

kenoc7 Mar 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT

A3 When the game of school is in place S are the losers because they mostly don’t develop as see-directed, reflective LEARNERS. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT

@TTmomTT Hi Mandi! #sblchat

CVULearns Mar 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT

@RoweRikW this is the blog we wrote about that topic. https://t.co/Lq7wr0ZpyI #sblchat

rickwormeli2 Mar 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT

@MizzBanhan #sblchat I'll have to disagree. This depends on how you engage students in those standards, and the use of community standards.

barrykid1 Mar 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT

A3 losers in the game of school are those who don't fit the mold: creatives, energetic, divergent, disruptive Ss @garnet_hillman #sblchat

smartins3313 Mar 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT

A3) It's much harder to play the game without demonstrating actual learning rather than just accumulating pts. #sblchat

krodrequez Mar 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT

A3: There are no "winners" in the game of school. The Ss that are successful are still not prepared for the 21st century. #sblchat

CoachLesterBHS Mar 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT

@chemjulie79 For sure. If you can't give the learning relevance, then the compliance loses value to Ss.#sblchat

rickwormeli2 Mar 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT

@MizzBanhan #sblchat Standards can basically mean, the stuff you need to teach.As subject experts, we can make these culturally relevant.

TammyDelaney1 Mar 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT

@beebekienstra Amen to that! #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT

@WaltKozlowski Completely agree...it is sad that the reverse is seen as true sometimes. #sblchat

kenoc7 Mar 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT

A3 When the game of school is in place often girls are winners and boys are the losers. #sblchat

MandyStalets Mar 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT

We do Ss a disservice when we teach them to play the game of school. We don't put the focus on their learning, making all losers #sblchat

TTmomTT Mar 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT

A3: Winners are the compliant ones that may not know the most. The losers may have more knowledge but won't jump through hoops #sblchat

mjjohnson1216 Mar 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT

A3. Seems to me like "winning" includes talents that will lead itself toward great success as a participating community member. #sblchat

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT

@MeganCMoMo @bravesearth I have to report 6 times per year - are parents pushing back when there's no in progress grade? #sblchat

beebekienstra Mar 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT

@rickwormeli2 @MizzBanhan It all depends on the implementation. #sbl separates behavior from learning. #essential #sblchat

mr_kweiss Mar 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT

A3 In many cases the winners and losers were decided well before the game of school got started #sblchat https://t.co/tm8kgZRzMU

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT

Q3 When the game of school is in place, who are the ‘winners’? and the ‘losers’? #sblchat

lorimcewen Mar 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT

@krodrequez True, but it All lies in implementation. SBL done well is terrific, done poorly could be worse than traditional. #sblchat

JJBackeberg Mar 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT

A2: growth mindset vs memorize for test #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT

I'm not sure anyone really wins with mere compliance... #sblchat https://t.co/DGjHEBTyGy

beebekienstra Mar 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT

@TammyDelaney1 when grading behaviors the compliant kids win #sblchat

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT

@stampingout @bravesearth @DRich0696 It is in progress like their learning. At the end of the semester I will convert #sblchat

RESP3CTtheGAME Mar 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT

A3 Game of school losers are those academically punished for behaviors unrelated to learning #sblchat

CoachLesterBHS Mar 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT

@kenoc7 So interesting. Never considered this aspect before. #sblchat

drangelapeery Mar 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT

@rickwormeli2 @MizzBanhan I side with Rick on this one. Standards can be made relevant to kids. #sblchat

PrincipalSteveA Mar 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT

A3 Ss who learn it fast are rewarded, others learn they are not good at the game & stop playing #sblchat

perryafinch Mar 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT

A3: Winners are the defenders of status quo. Losers are all of us because of the untapped potential of so many kids. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT

@mr_kweiss So true...and we wonder why some are so disengaged. #sblchat

DocRitterHville Mar 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT

A3 winners= kids who have to work to get decent grades. They figure how they learn best. Losers never actually study, ride it out #sblchat

smartins3313 Mar 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT

SBL rigorous as it holds all kids accountable for learning and not demonstrating. #sblchat https://t.co/kOaOqGEmoo

rickwormeli2 Mar 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT

@stampingout @KatieBudrow #sblchat Where in this is anyone pretending that school is easy? SBL is way more demanding than trad grading.

TTmomTT Mar 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT

Yes they are #sblchat https://t.co/LIDMLCQRQ1

RESP3CTtheGAME Mar 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT

A3 Game of school losers are those academically punished for behaviors unrelated to learning #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT

@JJBackeberg Justin, stay right where you are in #sblchat

DerrickJCameron Mar 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT

A3 tough question...those that learn the game at an early age are the real losers...learn to conform and not think outside the box #sblchat

danieldmccabe Mar 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT

Learning is not a zero-sum game, grading is. #sblchat

lorimcewen Mar 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT

@kenoc7 And do we have research on how SBL changes that? #sblchat

rickwormeli2 Mar 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT

@bizedteach @stampingout #sblchat Memorization still important, even in a world where we can always look it up! 'Not suff for mastery, hwvr

DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT

A32: @kenoc7 Would like to explore the “winner” issue. I just analyzed IB data - who got high grades and low IB scores? #sblchat

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT

@chemjulie79 S expressed interest in engineering to another T - T: "What kind?" S: "WHat do you mean? I'm good at STEM" #STOPIT #sblchat

WaltKozlowski Mar 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT

Unfortunately, far too true far too often. #sblchat https://t.co/NKJm3u4e1t

mr_kweiss Mar 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3 In many cases the winners and losers were decided well before the game of school got started #sblchat https://t.co/tm8kgZRzMU
- garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT
  
  Q3 When the game of school is in place, who are the ‘winners’? and the ‘losers’? #sblchat

drangelapeery Mar 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT

@JJBackeberg Good point and makes the case for SB grading even stronger. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT

@TTmomTT Mandi, we have been holding our breath waiting for you. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT

If no one learns, no one wins. #sblchat

kenoc7 Mar 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT

Julie Coates & William A Draves. Published by LERN _ Learning Resources Network in River Falls, Wisconsin. #sblchat https://t.co/QpItHGmtA9

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT

@kenoc7 Who is the author Ken?

beebekienstra Mar 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT

@RoweRikW if winning = higher grade. but really it's about learning --- not a grade. #sbl is about learning and #growthmindset #sblchat

Ms_Heilsberg Mar 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT

@rickwormeli2 @MizzBanhan I agree with Rick. Standards can be made relevant as all learning can be. #sblchat

EduQuinn Mar 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT

@lorimcewen Tweet reminds me of Austin's Butterfly via @ELeducation. Multiple drafts for a quality product. https://t.co/S81xTZa6H2 #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT

BAM!! #sblchat https://t.co/DEl36KwFNq

beebekienstra Mar 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT

@RoweRikW if winning = higher grade. but really it's about learning --- not a grade. #sbl is about learning and #growthmindset #sblchat

drangelapeery Mar 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT

@DouglasReeves @MizzBanhan And we don't help boys by penalizing them for outbursts, movement, etc. Agree with you Doug! #sblchat

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT

@stampingout I have to report a % & that converts to a letter though I'd rather not. They know where they're at without it though. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT

Stunning! #sblchat https://t.co/qVoGO5BGnz

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT

If no one learns, no one wins. #sblchat

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT

@stampingout Yes - I'm all for transparency. How do we keep that from turning into a game of checking boxes? Just better rubrics? #sblchat

Americans2012 Mar 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT

@DouglasReeves @MizzBanhan yes! If u assign so one an A because they r quit complaint Ss ur disservice by not preparing them 4life #sblchat

TTmomTT Mar 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT

@RoweRikW Now you can breathe :-) I have arrived #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT

Whew! #TurningBlue #sblchat https://t.co/kiLTvA8WIB

TTmomTT Mar 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT

@RoweRikW Now you can breathe :-) I have arrived #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT

Q4 Give some ideas for how to calm teachers who believe students will not be motivated in their classes without grades. #sblchat

drangelapeery Mar 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT

@EduQuinn @lorimcewen @ELeducation I've used that video w Ts. Very effective. #sblchat

BClarksonTX Mar 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT

A3: Winners r Ss who tell the T what they "want to hear" to get pts. Losers won't chase points and fall behind w/o feedback. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT

Ahhhhhh! #sblchat https://t.co/mVBhC2fZ9R

JJBackeberg Mar 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT

A2: growth mindset vs memorize for test #sblchat

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT

@DRich0696 @bravesearth You report traditionally 6x? WOW! Not this year but I over did the Parent edu in Sept/Oct to explain whynot #sblchat

DerrickJCameron Mar 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT

A3 you should see Ps expressions when you tell them u are not using averages and only looking at the growth over a semester #sblchat

drangelapeery Mar 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT

@Ms_Heilsberg @rickwormeli2 @MizzBanhan The key is to CONNECT the real-life experiences of Ss to the standards. #sblchat

DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT

A4: Watch students motivated without grades: Music, art, sports, clubs - it’s right in front of us. #sblchat https://t.co/9td2zVw02X

lackeykimberly Mar 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT

A3 Doing School: How We Are Creating a Generation of Stressed-Out, Materialistic, and Miseducated Students https://t.co/X5rfVf7CtD #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

A4 Success motivates. Carrots and sticks can work in the short term, but do not build lifelong learners. Build upon success! #sblchat

lorimcewen Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

@DocRitterHville @kenoc7 Would love to see it. Also need research on SBL effect on ELLs, Ss with IEPs, reduction in RtI referrals #sblchat

KatieBudrow Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

A4 Always go back to that why. Why are we learning this? Why is it important? Students will do work of value, regardless of grades. #sblchat

rickwormeli2 Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

@stampingout #sblchat I agree with this: In order to make connections, apply flexibly, there has to be knowledge in place.Memorization imprt

Americans2012 Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

@garnet_hillman Q3 don't think they r any winners ....everyone looses #sblchat

PLloydHenry Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

@drangelapeery @rickwormeli2 @MizzBanhan sure standards can be relevant to Ss-yet it is the marginalized who often have to conform #sblchat

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

@DerrickJCameron After explanation of the damage of an average, my Ps are understanding, what about yours? #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

Yes! @alfiekohn agrees! #sblchat https://t.co/33ugKnNr6Y

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

A4 Success motivates. Carrots and sticks can work in the short term, but do not build lifelong learners. Build upon success! #sblchat

Meffscience Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

A4: When you take out the fear of points kids focus on the learning and can relax. #sblchat

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

@MeganCMoMo 2 official and updates at 6 & 12 wks. #sblchat

rickwormeli2 Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

@DouglasReeves #sblchat Not all of us! :-)

bizedteach Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

@rickwormeli2 @stampingout I guess I see memorization as in important part of the path to being able to do/apply. Has its place #sblchat

drangelapeery Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

@PLloydHenry @rickwormeli2 @MizzBanhan I don't see it as conforming. I see it as EMPOWERING them! #sblchat

mjjohnson1216 Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

A4. Grades are an easy excuse (compliance) rather than planning engaging activities that motivate Ss to learn. #sblchat

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

A4: By knowing that it will take time - it's a CULTURAL shift; those don't happen overnight #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

Yes! #sblchat https://t.co/7kQlIcP5eM

DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT

A4: Watch students motivated without grades: Music, art, sports, clubs - it’s right in front of us. #sblchat https://t.co/9td2zVw02X

CoachLesterBHS Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

A4- Per @alfiekohn Grades don't motivate. Learning and relevance motivate. Grades get in the way of learning and relevance. #sblchat

MandyStalets Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

A4 We need to establish a culture that encourages risk taking. Why would students be willing to take risks if all is high stakes? #sblchat

Ms_Heilsberg Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

@MeganCMoMo @stampingout @bravesearth @DRich0696 my gradebook is set up for sbg. I can show 12 Ss how they do on standards #sblchat

MattNeustadt Mar 23 @ 9:30 PM EDT

Matt MS principal in Illinois. Some great information on #sblchat thanks @garnet_hillman for moderating

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:30 PM EDT

A4 Students who are unmotivated need teachers who form relationships. Get to the bottom of the issue and help the S climb up. #sblchat

smartins3313 Mar 23 @ 9:30 PM EDT

A4) I connect it to growth opportunities in real world adults are assessed with feedback but no letter grade. #sblchat

JJBackeberg Mar 23 @ 9:30 PM EDT

A3: winners are the Ss motivated by grades, want to play the game. Losers are everyone else #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:30 PM EDT

@MattNeustadt Thanks Matt and good evening! #sblchat

CoachLesterBHS Mar 23 @ 9:30 PM EDT

@DouglasReeves Well said! #sblchat

kenoc7 Mar 23 @ 9:30 PM EDT

A4 Read Daniel Pink’s book “Drive” or at least the section addressed to teachers and parents. #sblchat

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:30 PM EDT

@stampingout Very similar to the system my school works with - as long as Ts create good assessments, that works well #sblchat

mr_kweiss Mar 23 @ 9:30 PM EDT

A4 My son plays games for hours and never gets a grade. In fact he fails more often than not... fails into mastery due to feedback #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:30 PM EDT

Smiling HUGE! #sblchat https://t.co/ZQEyLA6Ukp

KatieBudrow Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

A4 Always go back to that why. Why are we learning this? Why is it important? Students will do work of value, regardless of grades. #sblchat

WaltKozlowski Mar 23 @ 9:30 PM EDT

A4: SBL involves changing a mindset. If class norms & expectations are set correctly this becomes a non-issue. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT

RT Q4 Give some ideas for how to calm teachers who believe students will not be motivated in their classes without grades. #sblchat

rickwormeli2 Mar 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT

@lorimcewen @DocRitterHville @kenoc7 #sblchat Check out the work of @tguskey @leeannjung

MattNeustadt Mar 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT

@garnet_hillman imagine the shift is harder for some. Too many interested in learning behaviors as opposed to just learning #sblchat

MandyStalets Mar 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT

A4: Show students the relevance of what they are learning. They need to know how this will benefit them and their learning #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT

Relax and Learn to Learn... #sblchat https://t.co/WsqUJjjvK7

Meffscience Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

A4: When you take out the fear of points kids focus on the learning and can relax. #sblchat

mjjohnson1216 Mar 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT

Grades should be replaced with data that demonstrates growth that is monitored and owned by Ss #sblchat

CrystalBates79 Mar 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT

A4: Try it! Try giving authentic feedback instead of a grade. Show your passion for teaching. Make it relevant. #sblchat

DerrickJCameron Mar 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT

@MeganCMoMo I use the track analogy to demonstrate the disconnect.very supportive when they realize it's about learning not grades #sblchat

PLloydHenry Mar 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT

A4: get Ss to co-create tasks & criteria; encourage metacognition, creativity, & divergent thinking #sblchat

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT

@Ms_Heilsberg @MeganCMoMo @stampingout @bravesearth i'm still in the transition phase - some are and some are not. #sblchat

realAllisonW Mar 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT

A4. I often reiterate the purpose. CR climate as culture dictate S attitude. Learning makes us vulnerable. #sblchat

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT

@WaltKozlowski And that has to happen beyond just 1 classroom, I'd imagine - across a building or district #sblchat

rggillespie Mar 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT

@garnet_hillman @DouglasReeves But the cynic will say, "they want to be there, and don't have the passion for my subject. #sblchat

TammyDelaney1 Mar 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT

School needs to be a place where they want to come and not have to come. #sblchat #pbl https://t.co/HUUJcwMJjY

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Yes! #sblchat https://t.co/7kQlIcP5eM
- DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT
  
  A4: Watch students motivated without grades: Music, art, sports, clubs - it’s right in front of us. #sblchat https://t.co/9td2zVw02X

CVULearns Mar 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT

When our class and its structure are about learning, feedback, and growth kids rise to the challenge. They WANT to learn! #sblchat

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT

A4: This starts with the acceptance that Ts will not use grades as carrots OR sticks! Then we can share ideas about #COL #sblchat

Meffscience Mar 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT

A4: Believe in your students. I didn't think it would wrk either but had kids wanting to redo no graded assignments to improve #sblchat

TTmomTT Mar 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT

A4: My Ss, after almost 3 Qs, are asking for more practice to increase knowledge. That's makes my day every day. Ss WANT to learn. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT

For Learners and Teachers... #sblchat https://t.co/hvbBss9IWU

mjjohnson1216 Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

A4. Grades are an easy excuse (compliance) rather than planning engaging activities that motivate Ss to learn. #sblchat

MandyStalets Mar 23 @ 9:32 PM EDT

@kenoc7 Yes! This really helped some of our teachers that were slow to buy in! #sblchat

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:32 PM EDT

@DerrickJCameron Perfect, I have sued that one too!! #sblchat

mrsgeomath Mar 23 @ 9:32 PM EDT

Grades or no grades, maximizing on authentic learning which applies to what Ss can relate to should be the main goal. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:32 PM EDT

Powerful! #sblchat https://t.co/4bZnFU3BZ1

CoachLesterBHS Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

A4- Per @alfiekohn Grades don't motivate. Learning and relevance motivate. Grades get in the way of learning and relevance. #sblchat

smartins3313 Mar 23 @ 9:32 PM EDT

Key Ts need to understand is importance of effective feedback.That's not letter grade. #sblchat https://t.co/DYydfYCfrV

mr_kweiss Mar 23 @ 9:30 PM EDT

A4 My son plays games for hours and never gets a grade. In fact he fails more often than not... fails into mastery due to feedback #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:32 PM EDT

@rggillespie @DouglasReeves This is our opportunity to build relevance, respectful tasks, and an engaging learning environment. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:32 PM EDT

@MattNeustadt Matt, we're pleased you are here. #sblchat

MaryLindseyELA Mar 23 @ 9:32 PM EDT

A4: figure out what REALLY motivates them. Working w/peers, time to work on their music, social media. Use those instead #sblchat

BClarksonTX Mar 23 @ 9:32 PM EDT

A4: If we create culturally relevant, engaging learning opps we will show off how Ss are motivated to learn w/o focusing on pts. #sblchat

kenoc7 Mar 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT

A4 Pink’s keys to the motivation we want/need in school are choice, success and purpose NOT punishment and rewards. #sblchat

Ms_Heilsberg Mar 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT

@DRich0696 @MeganCMoMo @stampingout @bravesearth there are ways. My Ss graph mastery levels. Get grades there #sblchat

EduQuinn Mar 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT

@DouglasReeves Yes, the one caveat that I'd add is that those students opt into those activities. Choice is essential for learning #sblchat

rggillespie Mar 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT

@garnet_hillman @DouglasReeves What can you do to make it so your Ss are more motivated in your class? Hint: grades are not answer #sblchat

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT

A4: When learning is the focus, then the grade is an outcome rather than a target. #sblchat

DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT

@rggillespie Need passion? Absolutely - but S’s will never have it if we don’t. I will make math beautiful and compelling. #sblchat

DocRitterHville Mar 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT

A4 look at every kid who embraces new challenges in the classroom to get out of the routine, even those normally not motivated #sblchat

DerrickJCameron Mar 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT

Need to educate Ps too if we want to truly have an impact on change in our schools #sblchat

MrTDecker Mar 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT

Side question - Any ideas or resources (articles, video, etc) for admin in early stages of grade usage/policy review w T's? Thanks! #sblchat

CVULearns Mar 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT

Often, teachers need to change their habits to improve the habits of their students. https://t.co/XMwUzuzu4g #sblchat

Ms_Heilsberg Mar 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT

@DRich0696 @MeganCMoMo students track own progress on paper gradebook per standard then they know what to work on #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT

Don't forget to follow all the wonderful people you are chatting with tonight! #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT

This! #sblchat https://t.co/l0rNWsSzCC

TammyDelaney1 Mar 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT
School needs to be a place where they want to come and not have to come. #sblchat #pbl https://t.co/HUUJcwMJjY
- garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT
  
  Yes! #sblchat https://t.co/7kQlIcP5eM
  
  DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT
  
  A4: Watch students motivated without grades: Music, art, sports, clubs - it’s right in front of us. #sblchat https://t.co/9td2zVw02X

bizedteach Mar 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT

A4 It's important to just do it and be persistent with it. The students will adapt, but the learning experiences better be relevant #sblchat

PrincipalSteveA Mar 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT

A4 we see unmotivated Ss in points-based classrooms - struggling learners need different support and structure. #sblchat

BradLatzke Mar 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT

A4 When Ss have voice and choice in learning, then motivation is not dependent on grades. Means changing teaching practices. #sblchat

drangelapeery Mar 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT

@kenoc7 And does it make sense at the beginning of the year or course to ask kids what motivates them + what feedback they'd like? #sblchat

rggillespie Mar 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT

@DouglasReeves And grades don't equate to passion and are more likely to kill it #sblchat

BClarksonTX Mar 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT

Yes! Yes! ALWAYS give the "why" with the "what!" #sblchat https://t.co/tfUUrgwqLM

KatieBudrow Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

A4 Always go back to that why. Why are we learning this? Why is it important? Students will do work of value, regardless of grades. #sblchat

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT

@Ms_Heilsberg @MeganCMoMo @stampingout @bravesearth Ya - doing that in some and they begin to own their learning. #sblchat

mfinnRScoach Mar 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT

A4: it might take time for Ss to get that we r fighting 4 their learning/ownership-no quick fix but SO worth it #sblchat

rickwormeli2 Mar 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT

@rggillespie @garnet_hillman @DouglasReeves #sblchat And that's where our professional craft comes in: Making things meaningful, inviting.

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:35 PM EDT

We're here to learn in #sblchat because we want to, not for a grade. https://t.co/niEUxtU6kh

CVULearns Mar 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT

When our class and its structure are about learning, feedback, and growth kids rise to the challenge. They WANT to learn! #sblchat

danieldmccabe Mar 23 @ 9:35 PM EDT

A4 introduce them to @mssackstein https://t.co/Jg1paP85eK #sblchat https://t.co/iJI2eCTixF

TTmomTT Mar 23 @ 9:35 PM EDT

Absolutely. My Ss LOVE to track their own data and progress and set goals. #sblchat https://t.co/V2tlHF7Wm0

mjjohnson1216 Mar 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT

Grades should be replaced with data that demonstrates growth that is monitored and owned by Ss #sblchat

kenoc7 Mar 23 @ 9:35 PM EDT

Canadians in #sblchat please attend CAfLN annual conference & symposium in Kingston 05/13-14. see cafln.ca

chemjulie79 Mar 23 @ 9:35 PM EDT

A4: Be consistent. Model flexibility and growth. Provide meaningful feedback. Ask for student reflection. #sblchat

Ms_Heilsberg Mar 23 @ 9:35 PM EDT

@rggillespie @garnet_hillman @DouglasReeves Ss watch their own progress in my class. They motivate themselves. #sblchat

hhschiaravalli Mar 23 @ 9:35 PM EDT

Q4: I'm not sure "calm" can always be done. #sblchat opens up the can of worms of motivation. If it's been all extrinsic, it'll be tough.

drangelapeery Mar 23 @ 9:35 PM EDT

@BClarksonTX I'm amazed I hear so many Ts still say "we have to learn this for the test." #sblchat

Americans2012 Mar 23 @ 9:35 PM EDT

@DouglasReeves @rggillespie successful companies r successful because they don't care about GPA passion innovation &collaboration #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT

Q5 Does the game of school foster a collaborative environment? Why or why not? #sblchat

smartins3313 Mar 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT

Standards need to be relevant to their current lives but they also need relevance to an unknown future. #sblchat

mjjohnson1216 Mar 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT

A4. Imagine an assignment or activity is placed in front of you year after year after year wouldn't you give up? #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT

Love this! #sblchat https://t.co/vOZMCwow66

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT

A4: When learning is the focus, then the grade is an outcome rather than a target. #sblchat

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT

Did ignorance really get stamped out? #threecheers #sblchat

kinderkfoley Mar 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT

A4: Ss are proud of their work. In k they learn this. We need to keep it going the same as k. #sblchat https://t.co/pq1CqMWRbD

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT

Q4 Give some ideas for how to calm teachers who believe students will not be motivated in their classes without grades. #sblchat

Ms_Heilsberg Mar 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT

Been a big.change for me in my.class #sblchat https://t.co/faMQ9Sh5L5

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT

@Ms_Heilsberg @MeganCMoMo @stampingout @bravesearth Ya - doing that in some and they begin to own their learning. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT

Nailed it! #sblchat https://t.co/B9z9oJ24Oi

DerrickJCameron Mar 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT

Need to educate Ps too if we want to truly have an impact on change in our schools #sblchat

PrincipalSteveA Mar 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT

@stampingout evidence that we see is Ss incessant inquiry of pt values and opting out of work when they achieve desired grade #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT

Here it is! #sblchat https://t.co/fjR5wzUnl4

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT

Q5 Does the game of school foster a collaborative environment? Why or why not? #sblchat

kenoc7 Mar 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT

@lorimcewen Yes, see the book I just listed. #sblchat

BClarksonTX Mar 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT

If only we could convince so many Ts to step out of their comfort zone. So much fear... #sblchat https://t.co/n6HegATg3u

BradLatzke Mar 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT

A4 When Ss have voice and choice in learning, then motivation is not dependent on grades. Means changing teaching practices. #sblchat

DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT

A5: Collaboration? In recent review of classroom assessments, 9% vaulted and promoted collaboration. #sblchat https://t.co/9td2zVw02X

j_ozbolt Mar 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT

A5 NO. Working to get more pts fosters competition #sblchat

KatieBudrow Mar 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT

A5 Nope. If school is a game, that means you can win. Ends up putting the focus on the competition not collaboration. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT

A5 Games are inherently competitive. If I am competing with my peers, productive collaboration becomes difficult. #sblchat

Meffscience Mar 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT

I think it was a best seller too : ) #sblchat https://t.co/VbIhSqof2z

mac4cy Mar 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT

@Meffscience I think I remember two great guys that wrote a blog about this.

smartins3313 Mar 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT

Standards must be broken learning targets with verb, context, success criteria so Ss can self assess. #sblchat

rggillespie Mar 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT

When grades are used to sort or for competition we don't do anyone any favors #sblchat

WaltKozlowski Mar 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT

Makes me cringe! #sblchat https://t.co/98a513Pgqm

drangelapeery Mar 23 @ 9:35 PM EDT

@BClarksonTX I'm amazed I hear so many Ts still say "we have to learn this for the test." #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT

#udlchat #sblchat https://t.co/lZiQEO9DKT

BradLatzke Mar 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT

A4 When Ss have voice and choice in learning, then motivation is not dependent on grades. Means changing teaching practices. #sblchat

TTmomTT Mar 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT

@kenoc7 Amazing book! #sblchat

mjjohnson1216 Mar 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT

#sblchat Let's jump on board! https://t.co/Cgjkz5E2Gq

smartins3313 Mar 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT

Hattie has a 1.44 effect size when students can self assess and self report their learning. #sblchat

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT

A5: NO! It creates competition between learners instead of collaboration! #lifeskill #sblchat

chemjulie79 Mar 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT

A5: depends on the class and the kinsey of the teacher. Interesting question to pose to students... #sblchat

DocRitterHville Mar 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT

Q5 it fosters group work with each person doing apiece and no one really learning everything they need #sblchat

MRHS_Principal Mar 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT

#sblchat https://t.co/iXEqCJXEZw

DerrickJCameron Mar 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT

Q5 game of school fosters competition not collaboration #sblchat

EduQuinn Mar 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT

Reading a lot about engagement/flow recently. Goals, challenge & feedback = essential, but task has to be personally meaningful. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT

A5 If the game includes norm referencing, practices like curving assessment scores create animosity among Ss instead of rapport. #sblchat

BClarksonTX Mar 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT

A5: No, because in the "game" it's all about ME. No one worries abt helping their classmates. #sblchat

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT

A5: Fosters competition-can be channeled into collab 4 better GRADES - competitiveness doesn't have to be bad, but it's not collab #sblchat

CVULearns Mar 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT

Side question: Taking a large group to ASCD pre-conference with Carol Tomlinson...any others going to be there? #sblchat

MaryLindseyELA Mar 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT

I was just thinking about this point earlier today. I do what I do because I want to learn! #sblchat https://t.co/g2NnCNwecx

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:35 PM EDT
We're here to learn in #sblchat because we want to, not for a grade. https://t.co/niEUxtU6kh
- CVULearns Mar 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT
  
  When our class and its structure are about learning, feedback, and growth kids rise to the challenge. They WANT to learn! #sblchat

drangelapeery Mar 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT

@WaltKozlowski Me too! Where's the deeper meaning, the passion? #sblchat

Ms_Heilsberg Mar 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT

I used some of @rickwormeli2 work to help Ts and admin understand the big why https://t.co/tP4NIN9Iyy #sblchat https://t.co/HtmegrFxxW

MrTDecker Mar 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT

Side question - Any ideas or resources (articles, video, etc) for admin in early stages of grade usage/policy review w T's? Thanks! #sblchat

bizedteach Mar 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT

A5 Not really, especially because "collaboration" in the game of school usually means "group work for shared grade". #sblchat

TTmomTT Mar 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT

I agree! #sblchat https://t.co/b01L0fvFy7

rggillespie Mar 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT

@DouglasReeves And grades don't equate to passion and are more likely to kill it #sblchat

BradLatzke Mar 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT

School leadership is responsible for creating culture where Ts and Ss are supported for risk taking. #sblchat https://t.co/v6R1DOXf5L

BClarksonTX Mar 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT
If only we could convince so many Ts to step out of their comfort zone. So much fear... #sblchat https://t.co/n6HegATg3u
- BradLatzke Mar 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT
  
  A4 When Ss have voice and choice in learning, then motivation is not dependent on grades. Means changing teaching practices. #sblchat

CoachLesterBHS Mar 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT

A5- For Ss it fosters competition, not collaboration. We work better in groups, not silos. #sblchat

MattNeustadt Mar 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT

A5 I think game of school would create Ss who are just after points/grades and not concerned with the learning or collaborating #sblchat

TammyDelaney1 Mar 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT

What is the best way to educate parents??? #sblchat https://t.co/LsbO3OcgIH

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Nailed it! #sblchat https://t.co/B9z9oJ24Oi
- DerrickJCameron Mar 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT
  
  Need to educate Ps too if we want to truly have an impact on change in our schools #sblchat

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT

The game of school creates a competitive environment. There' only one first in the class and grades are used to compare Ss. #sblchat

PLloydHenry Mar 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT

A5: sometimes they do; very often we encourage competition rather than collaboration or consensus building #sblchat

MandyStalets Mar 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT

A5: No. It creates competition and a personal drive to get points. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT

In awe... #sblchat https://t.co/AIrIc0LyQH

smartins3313 Mar 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT

Standards need to be relevant to their current lives but they also need relevance to an unknown future. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:39 PM EDT

RT Q5 Does the game of school foster a collaborative environment? Why or why not? #sblchat

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:39 PM EDT

@chemjulie79 Absolutely! I've seen Ss come together and collaborate well - all in the pursuit of the "A", but collab none the less #sblchat

TTmomTT Mar 23 @ 9:39 PM EDT

It starts with changing Ss and Ps mindset about learning. #sblchat https://t.co/v4fnUxqEXb

hhschiaravalli Mar 23 @ 9:35 PM EDT

Q4: I'm not sure "calm" can always be done. #sblchat opens up the can of worms of motivation. If it's been all extrinsic, it'll be tough.

perryafinch Mar 23 @ 9:39 PM EDT

Agree. Safe learning environment encourages growth b/c there's no fear of failing. Works with adults too! #sblchat https://t.co/obOWLJid85

MandyStalets Mar 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT

A4 We need to establish a culture that encourages risk taking. Why would students be willing to take risks if all is high stakes? #sblchat

Americans2012 Mar 23 @ 9:39 PM EDT

R.E.M. - Everybody Hurts (Official Music Video) #sblchat https://t.co/UfFW9jEuO8

danieldmccabe Mar 23 @ 9:39 PM EDT

Responsibility implies autonomy, and homework offers none of this. #sblchat https://t.co/ljoPtFpzw2

DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:39 PM EDT

@BradLatzke is right on - school leaders can nurture - or undermine - the culture of collaboration. #sblchat https://t.co/9td2zVw02X

rggillespie Mar 23 @ 9:39 PM EDT

Firmly believe cheating/plagiarism occur more because of pressure/competition than for any other reason #sblchat

mjjohnson1216 Mar 23 @ 9:39 PM EDT

When we wear blinders it is a challenge to move forward with student growth. #sblchat https://t.co/aMkfeIusD4

drangelapeery Mar 23 @ 9:39 PM EDT

@smartins3313 That's the figure for self-reported grades, I believe. I know of no school system (yet!) that allows that. #sblchat

Ms_Heilsberg Mar 23 @ 9:39 PM EDT

Educating Ss is best way. When kids like it parents won't complain. #sblchat https://t.co/9Tlw7fDgCl

TammyDelaney1 Mar 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT
What is the best way to educate parents??? #sblchat https://t.co/LsbO3OcgIH
- RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT
  
  Nailed it! #sblchat https://t.co/B9z9oJ24Oi
  
  DerrickJCameron Mar 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT
  
  Need to educate Ps too if we want to truly have an impact on change in our schools #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:39 PM EDT

BAM! #sblchat https://t.co/5OZepIpGh5

smartins3313 Mar 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT

Standards must be broken learning targets with verb, context, success criteria so Ss can self assess. #sblchat

DerrickJCameron Mar 23 @ 9:39 PM EDT

@julieh1999 @MeganCMoMo a runner advances based on his/her best time not an average of their times #sblchat

smartins3313 Mar 23 @ 9:39 PM EDT

The game of school creates an self and peer reinforced fixed intelligence. #sblchat https://t.co/vOps8lP8qY

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT

Q5 Does the game of school foster a collaborative environment? Why or why not? #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:40 PM EDT

#STOPIT #sblchat https://t.co/ckeDrHA1MD

rggillespie Mar 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT

When grades are used to sort or for competition we don't do anyone any favors #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:40 PM EDT

@Ms_Heilsberg I sent out a lot of communication, but I agree - happy kids = happy parents. #sblchat

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:40 PM EDT

This is a much more well-put version of exactly what I was trying to say #sblchat https://t.co/iL8z01GQUg

bizedteach Mar 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT

A5 Not really, especially because "collaboration" in the game of school usually means "group work for shared grade". #sblchat

drangelapeery Mar 23 @ 9:40 PM EDT

@MizzBanhan I used to ask kids on surveys and in Community Circle to respond to such questions. #sblchat

BClarksonTX Mar 23 @ 9:40 PM EDT

A5b: The real issue at hand here is the method by which colleges accept Ss. Too much focus on GPA leads to competition, not collab. #sblchat

MaryLindseyELA Mar 23 @ 9:40 PM EDT

A5: isn't cheating a form of collaboration. It's not authentic collab though. #sblchat

EduQuinn Mar 23 @ 9:40 PM EDT

@PrincipalSteveA That could be a reflection of task relevance. When Ss= fully engaged, I see less concern about pts vs. product #sblchat

Ms_Heilsberg Mar 23 @ 9:40 PM EDT

@garnet_hillman we sent a lot out too but best luck are with the kids who speak positive about it #sblchat

hhschiaravalli Mar 23 @ 9:40 PM EDT

A5: No. Too much at stake. Brain flooded with cortisol. Leads to a fight-or-flight, mercenary mindset. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:40 PM EDT

There is a ton we do not grade that shows great learning... #sblchat https://t.co/l5vTu0iB3E

jenschams Mar 23 @ 9:40 PM EDT

@RoweRikW do you think that eliminating grades would help this problem? It seems that ungraded projects produce the best results. #sbchat

lackeykimberly Mar 23 @ 9:41 PM EDT

A4 Ask them if their current system is actually motivating kids to learn #sblchat

kenoc7 Mar 23 @ 9:41 PM EDT

Much of his review of motivation research is from education. #sblchat https://t.co/xmM2bD2PMk

lorimcewen Mar 23 @ 9:39 PM EDT

@kenoc7 Pink's Drive? Educational research?

smartins3313 Mar 23 @ 9:41 PM EDT

And leads to adults labeling Ss and developing fixed intelligence abilities for them. #sblchat https://t.co/tjzhQ2jdKG

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT

A5: NO! It creates competition between learners instead of collaboration! #lifeskill #sblchat

WaltKozlowski Mar 23 @ 9:41 PM EDT

A5: Sure if "Here's my paper so you can copy the answers," passes as collaboration. #sblchat

DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:41 PM EDT

@MaryLindseyELA Very thoughtful point. When we collaborate, it’s enhanced learning; when they collaborate, it’s cheating. #sblchat

PLloydHenry Mar 23 @ 9:41 PM EDT

While Ss are encouraged to collaborate while completing instructional tasks- they're often assessed individually #sblchat

TTmomTT Mar 23 @ 9:41 PM EDT

A5: Game of school DOES NOT foster a collaborative environment. If motivated by grades, class rank, etc, fosters competition. #sblchat

Americans2012 Mar 23 @ 9:41 PM EDT

Had 2 do it when we play the game if school everybody hurts thank u @stampingout @garnet_hillman #sblchat https://t.co/58PfLqFM55

Americans2012 Mar 23 @ 9:39 PM EDT

R.E.M. - Everybody Hurts (Official Music Video) #sblchat https://t.co/UfFW9jEuO8

CoachLesterBHS Mar 23 @ 9:41 PM EDT

@smartins3313 @garnet_hillman Yes. Ss learn that they are "A" or "F" Ss and it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. #sblchat

MizzBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:41 PM EDT

Simple! #sblchat https://t.co/hVPyGE7BRb

DerrickJCameron Mar 23 @ 9:41 PM EDT

@stampingout @MeganCMoMo as Damian Cooper stated "I will not embrace bad practices because of what is expected at next level" #sblchat

julieh1999 Mar 23 @ 9:42 PM EDT

A5 No. Not at all. There is a huge competition for class rank, to the point of grade manipulation. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:42 PM EDT

This has happened in schools all over this great country... #sblchat https://t.co/WQ90A1H3gH

MattNeustadt Mar 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT

A5 I think game of school would create Ss who are just after points/grades and not concerned with the learning or collaborating #sblchat

smartins3313 Mar 23 @ 9:42 PM EDT

The latest research I read was he changed it to assessment literate learners. #sblchat https://t.co/CxC84TEIP5

drangelapeery Mar 23 @ 9:39 PM EDT

@smartins3313 That's the figure for self-reported grades, I believe. I know of no school system (yet!) that allows that. #sblchat

CHS_Morris Mar 23 @ 9:42 PM EDT

A5: try to use active collaboration. Ask critical thinking questions #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:42 PM EDT

@CoachLesterBHS @smartins3313 Agree - The 'A' Student https://t.co/cFszBvdqiS #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:42 PM EDT

We use #GoodCallsHome to start the communication... #sblchat https://t.co/rWhkQj3iES

TammyDelaney1 Mar 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT
What is the best way to educate parents??? #sblchat https://t.co/LsbO3OcgIH
- RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT
  
  Nailed it! #sblchat https://t.co/B9z9oJ24Oi
  
  DerrickJCameron Mar 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT
  
  Need to educate Ps too if we want to truly have an impact on change in our schools #sblchat

DerrickJCameron Mar 23 @ 9:43 PM EDT

I often say we should be very thankful Ps are not educated...what does an 80% really tell me? #sblchat

Meffscience Mar 23 @ 9:43 PM EDT

Parent Universities #sblchat https://t.co/Ry6lhTZSzq

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:42 PM EDT
We use #GoodCallsHome to start the communication... #sblchat https://t.co/rWhkQj3iES
- TammyDelaney1 Mar 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT
  
  What is the best way to educate parents??? #sblchat https://t.co/LsbO3OcgIH
  
  RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT
  
  Nailed it! #sblchat https://t.co/B9z9oJ24Oi
  
  DerrickJCameron Mar 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT
  
  Need to educate Ps too if we want to truly have an impact on change in our schools #sblchat

mjjohnson1216 Mar 23 @ 9:43 PM EDT

Wonder if anyone in this chat has compared grades with a benchmark student data point over time? #sblchat

MizzBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:44 PM EDT

Don't forget our sons need us ... Every day! #sblchat https://t.co/E1MIgr3YuE

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:44 PM EDT

Q6 Does the game of school create a ceiling for student learning? If so, how? #sblchat

heather_edtech Mar 23 @ 9:44 PM EDT

#sblchat With SBL, teachers can help combat learned helplessness. Instead Ss learn resourcefulness.

MRHS_Principal Mar 23 @ 9:44 PM EDT

Great tweet from @plugusin #principallife #sblchat #weleaded https://t.co/q0LnxIfK5u

plugusin Mar 21 @ 6:22 PM EDT

Wouldn't it be cool if everyone in schools saw a grade as nothing more than evidence of learning instead of an evaluation of a learner?

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:44 PM EDT

BAM! #sblchat https://t.co/5jRTgNM8AC

MaryLindseyELA Mar 23 @ 9:40 PM EDT

A5: isn't cheating a form of collaboration. It's not authentic collab though. #sblchat

hhschiaravalli Mar 23 @ 9:44 PM EDT

A4: Getting rid of extrinsic sticks and carrots is the FIRST step. After that, it's a journey of a thousand miles... #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:44 PM EDT

And here is Q6... #sblchat https://t.co/zY9tUxUsV2

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:44 PM EDT

Q6 Does the game of school create a ceiling for student learning? If so, how? #sblchat

DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:44 PM EDT

@mjjohnson1216 - I’ve done precisely that comparison. See “The Learning Leader” - high grades, low proficiency. #sblchat

CVULearns Mar 23 @ 9:44 PM EDT

For so long school has only been about pre-determined answers...learning must be about the development of ideas. #sblchat

realAllisonW Mar 23 @ 9:44 PM EDT

Applause! #sblchat https://t.co/zd1jMhFmDU

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT

We must stop grading the Learning until we HAVE Learning... #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A6 When students play the game of school and see a finish line, they will only do enough to cross it. #sblchat

j_ozbolt Mar 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A6 Yes. Once you get all the pts you need, you can be done learning #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT

Our Learners WILL tell us... #sblchat https://t.co/dpfGm8uk3c

lackeykimberly Mar 23 @ 9:41 PM EDT

A4 Ask them if their current system is actually motivating kids to learn #sblchat

CHS_Morris Mar 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A6: depends. Next year I will introduce "genius hour" to students and try to let students learn about their interests #sblchat

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A6: For most learners, YES - not all, but MOST. And most is too many. #sblchat

MandyStalets Mar 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A6: Absolutely! When a student sees 90% or 100%, why continue to push? You have achieved the goal. #sblchat

drangelapeery Mar 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT

@RoweRikW So...... we have to set up collaborative classrooms where cheating can't really happen. #sblchat

CoachLesterBHS Mar 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A6 Yes. The ceiling is minimum amount of work required to acquire the desired grade. Transactional learning. #sblchat

MattNeustadt Mar 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT

@garnet_hillman agree no reason to push or challenge any farther. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT

Ouch! #sblchat https://t.co/qZVcj61Sq0

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A6 When students play the game of school and see a finish line, they will only do enough to cross it. #sblchat

DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A6: I’m the eternal optimist. I see students doing extraordinary things not for grades, but for the sheer joy of learning. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT

@j_ozbolt Remember how we used to say 'Learning is never done' in unison to students who told us 'I'm done!'? #sblchat

kenoc7 Mar 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT

@stampingout Learn in grade 5 about strengths & weaknesses of mean, median & mode. Mean is mostly mean to students. #sblchat

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT

A6: How can there be a ceiling when we never really know their level of understanding in playing school? #sblchat

rickwormeli2 Mar 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT

@MizzBanhan #sblchat 'Not disagreeing with you there. Knowing our students is paramount.

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT

And by celebrating that, we can encourage more of it! #sblchat https://t.co/2ITUSJEzNm

DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A6: I’m the eternal optimist. I see students doing extraordinary things not for grades, but for the sheer joy of learning. #sblchat

smartins3313 Mar 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT

This is why I am really interested in Competency Based Education. #sblchat https://t.co/nif4PoUS7k

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A6 When students play the game of school and see a finish line, they will only do enough to cross it. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT

Love it. #sblchat https://t.co/0gv96m09M4

DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A6: I’m the eternal optimist. I see students doing extraordinary things not for grades, but for the sheer joy of learning. #sblchat

MizzBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT

Q6: Ceilings are for those who are afraid to come out of the box. So game yes! Real learning - clouds are stars! #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT

Yes, a let's #MakeLearningPersonal so our Learners have varied tasks to demonstrate learning. #sblchat https://t.co/jlEiiClMAV

drangelapeery Mar 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT

@RoweRikW So...... we have to set up collaborative classrooms where cheating can't really happen. #sblchat

DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT

A6: Watch kids get published in Stone Soup, write original plays, and perform in the concert hall and athletic field. #sblchat

MaryLindseyELA Mar 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT

A6: absolutely. So many Ss stop trying once they see that grade they want even if it's below what we know they can achieve/learn #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT

So HUGE! #sblchat https://t.co/1hm1EViETq

CHS_Morris Mar 23 @ 9:42 PM EDT

A5: try to use active collaboration. Ask critical thinking questions #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT

RT Q6 Does the game of school create a ceiling for student learning? If so, how? #sblchat

BClarksonTX Mar 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT

RESOURCE ALERT! Currently reading this. Mind blowing. Def suggest reading & sharing w/ colleagues. #sblchat https://t.co/68BaSt2jWi

TTmomTT Mar 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT

A6: Yes, I see valedictorians who did not take the most challenging classes because they want a better GPA #hittheceiling #sblchat

danieldmccabe Mar 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT

Teachers must answer one basic, philosophical question: Is my purpose to select talent or develop it? #sblchat #edchat

DocRitterHville Mar 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT

A6 Low expectations with little learning. Some students overcome and break through the ceiling but not as many Ss as we want. #sblchat

kenoc7 Mar 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT

@stampingout Averages are damaging because whole year included. What student did in Sept mostly irrelevant in May. #sblchat

rickwormeli2 Mar 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT

@stampingout @KatieBudrow #sblchat Yep. We're still dealing with a factory model of schooling that an unresponsive, curriclm conveyor belt.

CVULearns Mar 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT

The game of school is about compliance and difficulty SBL is about complexity and rigor https://t.co/OHt1rvpErT #sblchat

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT

A6:If Ss can calc how many more points are needed to get a _ they've set their own ceiling.We shouldn't have a system to allow this #sblchat

DSchexnaydrePhD Mar 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT

A6 "Game of School" underscores importance of differentiated learning. If learning is individualized, everyone remains challenged #sblchat

MandyStalets Mar 23 @ 9:48 PM EDT

Students figure out that they can get their "A" with a 50 on final. They know how to play and it decreases motivation to learn. #sblchat

drangelapeery Mar 23 @ 9:48 PM EDT

@smartins3313 I believe the "hard research" about self-determining grades, not just being able to self-assess. Ask @hpitler #sblchat

rickwormeli2 Mar 23 @ 9:48 PM EDT

@CHS_Morris @stampingout @KatieBudrow #Sblchat Then I suggest it is being done incorrectly.

KellyNPipes Mar 23 @ 9:48 PM EDT

Love it bc all Ss are included in "genius" category! And interests are viewed as equally important! #sblchat https://t.co/jBLPE4tKrs

CHS_Morris Mar 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A6: depends. Next year I will introduce "genius hour" to students and try to let students learn about their interests #sblchat

DerrickJCameron Mar 23 @ 9:48 PM EDT

A6 as @DouglasReeves has stated...Ss live up to Ts expectations, therefore we need to raise the bar not lower it...no ceiling #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:48 PM EDT

Wow! #sblchat https://t.co/rwJ8DLAVfL

CVULearns Mar 23 @ 9:44 PM EDT

For so long school has only been about pre-determined answers...learning must be about the development of ideas. #sblchat

BClarksonTX Mar 23 @ 9:48 PM EDT

Gotta bail out! Fam time. LOVE this topic and appreciate you all greatly. Keep learning and keep pushing boundaries! Night all! #sblchat

CHS_Morris Mar 23 @ 9:48 PM EDT

A6: Does SBL hurt high achieving students? They see the benchmark... #sblchat

TTmomTT Mar 23 @ 9:48 PM EDT

@DouglasReeves I've started see this with my Freshman. Love the change in mindset. #sblchat

heather_edtech Mar 23 @ 9:48 PM EDT

A6: yes especially if the dialogue stops at 100% on one test. #sblchat

PLloydHenry Mar 23 @ 9:48 PM EDT

A6: For the Ss that are just playing the game, SBL allows them to abdicate their responsibilities as active learners #sblchat

BradLatzke Mar 23 @ 9:48 PM EDT

A6 Even within the "game of school", Ss who have discovered a passion have no ceiling. #sblchat

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:48 PM EDT

@MandyStalets I've seen this, too - it's the worst. SUCH a bummer #sblchat

hhschiaravalli Mar 23 @ 9:48 PM EDT

A6: Yes. SBL can fall prey to this too. When the agenda, motivation, focus, pathway is provided by teachers, that will be limiting. #sblchat

kinderkfoley Mar 23 @ 9:49 PM EDT

#sblchat i tell my Ss:We all drive the same car 2 1st grade, but some of us take the mtn road, some a straight shot, n some the scenic path

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:49 PM EDT

Thoughtful question to ponder... #sblchat https://t.co/aKZ8kVXlOs

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT

A6: How can there be a ceiling when we never really know their level of understanding in playing school? #sblchat

jenschams Mar 23 @ 9:49 PM EDT

@RoweRikW @garnet_hillman This is so true! The points/grades are the important piece not the learning. #sblchat #change

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:49 PM EDT

@CHS_Morris Standards need to be broad and open enough to not set the ceiling for student learning and proficiency. #sblchat

drangelapeery Mar 23 @ 9:49 PM EDT

@MizzBanhan That was my classrm, reading responses, personal vocab logs, self-chosen writing topics, lit circles. Can't cheat! #sblchat

PeterBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:49 PM EDT

Educators often creates a ceiling on learning when we hesitate to embrace critical dialogue #sblchat

lackeykimberly Mar 23 @ 9:49 PM EDT

A5 The game def fosters collaboration in the form of cheating #sblchat

MizzBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:49 PM EDT

Let's hear their stories! #sblchat https://t.co/wcMN2yi3SJ

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:49 PM EDT

Ditto! #sblchat https://t.co/SVTPLrZcmz

smartins3313 Mar 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT
This is why I am really interested in Competency Based Education. #sblchat https://t.co/nif4PoUS7k
- garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT
  
  A6 When students play the game of school and see a finish line, they will only do enough to cross it. #sblchat

TammyDelaney1 Mar 23 @ 9:51 PM EDT

Love the chat tonight! Thanks! Gotta run! #sblchat

CVULearns Mar 23 @ 9:51 PM EDT

What role do people see AP classes playing in school? Do they support learning or the game? #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:51 PM EDT

@TammyDelaney1 Thanks Tammy! #sblchat

jamesmcguire85 Mar 23 @ 9:51 PM EDT

A6: the game of school says getting the grade is all there is and nothing more is needed for the S to be successful. #sblchat

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:51 PM EDT

@RoweRikW @smartins3313 So many certifications are earned this way. I've done some reading at its really something! #sblchat

DSchexnaydrePhD Mar 23 @ 9:51 PM EDT

If every student had mastered the standards, what's the most challenging/engaging thing you could do with them? Now go try it. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:51 PM EDT

@BClarksonTX Thank you Brent! #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:52 PM EDT

Q7 Is there a game of school for teachers? If so, what does it look like? #sblchat

MizzBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:52 PM EDT

Imagine if we got this every day from our students! Pursuit of excellence! #sblchat https://t.co/QKxprjU5KQ

hhschiaravalli Mar 23 @ 9:52 PM EDT

SBL is better when teachers provide autonomy within standards. A lot of what I do with SBL has still been assignment based #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:52 PM EDT

They often need to work harder for the grade based on deeper learning. #GoodThing #sblchat https://t.co/M1ka6qBAyE

CHS_Morris Mar 23 @ 9:48 PM EDT

A6: Does SBL hurt high achieving students? They see the benchmark... #sblchat

TTmomTT Mar 23 @ 9:52 PM EDT

@rickwormeli2 @CHS_Morris @KatieBudrow I've had Ss new to SBL tell me this is the first time they've had to actually LEARN math. #sblchat

drangelapeery Mar 23 @ 9:52 PM EDT

@DSchexnaydrePhD Hi David! Is someone doing this at your school? Tell us more! #sblchat

Meffscience Mar 23 @ 9:52 PM EDT

A7: Traditional evaluations. Song and Dance to get enough points to renew your contract. #sblchat

bizedteach Mar 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A7 Agree to all extra tasks the principal asks you to do to get in their good graces #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A7 Teachers play the game if they make decisions for those above them rather than the students in their classrooms. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT

And our last question for the night... #sblchat https://t.co/aooAfgJbTI

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:52 PM EDT

Q7 Is there a game of school for teachers? If so, what does it look like? #sblchat

PrincipalSteveA Mar 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT

Exactly! #sblchat https://t.co/OKoEwRvAbJ

MandyStalets Mar 23 @ 9:48 PM EDT

Students figure out that they can get their "A" with a 50 on final. They know how to play and it decreases motivation to learn. #sblchat

DSchexnaydrePhD Mar 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A7 (Unfortunate) Game of School for Teachers: Good enough instruction to keep admin away, good enough grades to keep parents away. #sblchat

WaltKozlowski Mar 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A6: I see this as a function of "everybody is taught the same thing at the same time" more than how it is reported (traditional/SBG)#sblchat

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A7: Unfortunately. In my district Ts don't have to seek additional PD outside our walls to meet state requirement. #sblchat #nolearningforTs

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT

We will improve TOGETHER! #sblchat https://t.co/WAhDRC5DfU

BClarksonTX Mar 23 @ 9:52 PM EDT

@RoweRikW thx for sharing that it was happening. Saw it in your feed. Appreciate you and love learning with/from you. See ya!

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT

@TTmomTT @rickwormeli2 @CHS_Morris @KatieBudrow I had the same comment in my classroom - and even tho it was tough, they liked it. #sblchat

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A7: for sure - many of us are in schools b/c we were good at it as Ss. W/Ts is the dog&pony show of observations - focus off Ss #sblchat

mjjohnson1216 Mar 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT

Thanks for sharing - one of many books written by you that r in other room. Always striving 4 learning. #sblchat https://t.co/A4njjUDZAV

DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:44 PM EDT

@mjjohnson1216 - I’ve done precisely that comparison. See “The Learning Leader” - high grades, low proficiency. #sblchat

KatieBudrow Mar 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT

@TTmomTT @rickwormeli2 Love this! #sblchat

drangelapeery Mar 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT

@smartins3313 I think there's much Ts can do to get them more involved in determining their own grades, though! #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:54 PM EDT

A7 IMHO Standardized testing can push teachers to become game players competing for the highest scores. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:54 PM EDT

Please #STOPIT #sblchat https://t.co/Ed6stwuerF

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A7 Teachers play the game if they make decisions for those above them rather than the students in their classrooms. #sblchat

rickwormeli2 Mar 23 @ 9:54 PM EDT

@TTmomTT @CHS_Morris @KatieBudrow #sblchat YES!Thank goodness 4 tchers like you who care so much about their future as to make sure they lrn

DocRitterHville Mar 23 @ 9:54 PM EDT

A7 Same thing everyday w/ low accountability assessments & assignments. Routine requiring little thought/planning. Live by textbook #sblchat

DerrickJCameron Mar 23 @ 9:54 PM EDT

Q7 absolutely! It's called do as I say and do not question me! #sblchat

DSchexnaydrePhD Mar 23 @ 9:54 PM EDT

@drangelapeery It's how I open my conversations when giving a teacher feedback. Start challenging and then scaffold, not opposite. #sblchat

jillgrafton Mar 23 @ 9:54 PM EDT

@amybrowns #sblchat

ScesBen Mar 23 @ 9:54 PM EDT

Join #forsythpln chat Thursday at 9pm! We'll be talking "future ready" and what it means for our Ss and Ts! #dtk12chat #sblchat #scitlap

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:54 PM EDT

Ouch - sad, but true too often. #sblchat https://t.co/zZfBvYM10F

DSchexnaydrePhD Mar 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A7 (Unfortunate) Game of School for Teachers: Good enough instruction to keep admin away, good enough grades to keep parents away. #sblchat

kenoc7 Mar 23 @ 9:54 PM EDT

A7 For me in my first 3 years of teaching it was that the only days I wore a suit was when I was being “inspected”/evaluated. #sblchat

CoachLesterBHS Mar 23 @ 9:54 PM EDT

@MeganCMoMo My best PD is always from social media. So many great resources. Too bad more don't take advantage. #sblchat

drangelapeery Mar 23 @ 9:54 PM EDT

@Mrs_Krapels That's a misguided WT if the focus is OFF the students. Should be ON them and what they're doing. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:55 PM EDT

RT Q7 Is there a game of school for teachers? If so, what does it look like? #sblchat

MaryLindseyELA Mar 23 @ 9:55 PM EDT

A7: district led PD often follows this model. Sit quietly, pretend to listen, research what I really care about on my own time #sblchat

WaltKozlowski Mar 23 @ 9:55 PM EDT

Can't think of a better way to state it than this. #sblchat https://t.co/TG8qj8DM8V

DSchexnaydrePhD Mar 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A7 (Unfortunate) Game of School for Teachers: Good enough instruction to keep admin away, good enough grades to keep parents away. #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:55 PM EDT

Once again in awe... #sblchat https://t.co/2tRjAVgn5i

DSchexnaydrePhD Mar 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A7 (Unfortunate) Game of School for Teachers: Good enough instruction to keep admin away, good enough grades to keep parents away. #sblchat

DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:55 PM EDT

A7: I’d like to recognize that the teachers in this chat are not in it for the game, but for learning. Great models for S's. #sblchat

jillgrafton Mar 23 @ 9:55 PM EDT

@amybrowns @bethhill2829 #sblchat :)

BradLatzke Mar 23 @ 9:55 PM EDT

A7 Ts (and admin) who infect others with fear of change are masters at the "game of school." #sblchat

PLloydHenry Mar 23 @ 9:55 PM EDT

True - too often we side with the institution & the status quo rather than Ss #sblchat https://t.co/OUNIW6TrSl

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A7 Teachers play the game if they make decisions for those above them rather than the students in their classrooms. #sblchat

CVULearns Mar 23 @ 9:55 PM EDT

Just like students, teachers want to learn and get better...we need to do more to build a culture of learning for faculty #sblchat

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:55 PM EDT

@drangelapeery WT? Not familiar w/that one - but yes, anything a T does that's not S-centered is misguided #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:56 PM EDT

Want to continue the conversation? Join our #sblchat facebook group https://t.co/YxBLoay7cQ Great conversations happen every day!

DerrickJCameron Mar 23 @ 9:56 PM EDT

Q7 numerous initiatives/practices without a true understanding or taking the time to help Ts see the interconnectedness #sblchat

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:56 PM EDT

I think the @ISBEnews should offer PD credit for twitter chats! I learn the best and the most with my PLN #sblchat

DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:56 PM EDT

Thanks to moderators and colleagues for another great chat! #sblchat https://t.co/9td2zVw02X

drprosen Mar 23 @ 9:56 PM EDT

A7: The game is the game hasn't changed & continues. #sblchat

Americans2012 Mar 23 @ 9:56 PM EDT

@mjjohnson1216 well not sure but before #sblchat our departments had no common power standards now every s is expected 2 get the same

rickwormeli2 Mar 23 @ 9:56 PM EDT

@notsobigkahuna @stampingout #sblchat Yeah, 'had this, too, w/my math students. Have to help them see transformative power of mental math.

mjjohnson1216 Mar 23 @ 9:56 PM EDT

Many thanks to all for sharing their knowledge and thoughts - together we become stronger! #sblchat @garnet_hillman https://t.co/ksuGJail1e

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:57 PM EDT

Thanks so much for a great conversation tonight! The #sblchat PLN always inspires!

bizedteach Mar 23 @ 9:57 PM EDT

I used observation of and discussion with @MeganCMoMo for part of my required PD this year! #sblchat

TTmomTT Mar 23 @ 9:57 PM EDT

A7: Assign homework, don't take it late b/c too much work, one chance to assess - no learning? too bad! It's not a good game. #sblchat

CHS_Morris Mar 23 @ 9:57 PM EDT

@garnet_hillman I didn't disagree, but I don't write the standards. I want/expect Ss to go beyond the standards set by the gov #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:57 PM EDT

Doug, we so appreciate you sharing with us each week. #sblchat https://t.co/cDY0Z4Woay

DouglasReeves Mar 23 @ 9:56 PM EDT

Thanks to moderators and colleagues for another great chat! #sblchat https://t.co/9td2zVw02X

TTmomTT Mar 23 @ 9:57 PM EDT

I agree! #sblchat https://t.co/9glUxZa23R

MaryLindseyELA Mar 23 @ 9:55 PM EDT

A7: district led PD often follows this model. Sit quietly, pretend to listen, research what I really care about on my own time #sblchat

DSchexnaydrePhD Mar 23 @ 9:57 PM EDT

A7 Impetus is on admin to empower teachers so they don't have to "play the game." What does admin model and value? Actions speak... #sblchat

hhschiaravalli Mar 23 @ 9:58 PM EDT

Q7: Yes. Hide your weaknesses. A COL would celebrate the opportunity for growth. Instead, false perfection, keeping up appearances! #sblchat

chemjulie79 Mar 23 @ 9:58 PM EDT

A7: doing what is comfortable and not best for their current students #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:58 PM EDT

@CHS_Morris Are the standards that narrow? #sblchat #ugh

TTmomTT Mar 23 @ 9:58 PM EDT

Well said. That's the best summary I've heard. #sblchat https://t.co/h3hjqS33pj

DSchexnaydrePhD Mar 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A7 (Unfortunate) Game of School for Teachers: Good enough instruction to keep admin away, good enough grades to keep parents away. #sblchat

PeterBanhan Mar 23 @ 9:58 PM EDT

A7. What a sad set of statements about our profession #sblchat

BradLatzke Mar 23 @ 9:58 PM EDT

Thx @garnet_hillman & @RoweRikW for leading the learning on #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:58 PM EDT

Our #sblchat Crew models caring Educators to develop Learners with Growth Mindsets. Thank you!! @garnet_hillman

Americans2012 Mar 23 @ 9:58 PM EDT

@garnet_hillman a6 absolutely hoe much do I have 2 do 4 aC? No innovation or room 4 applying knowledge #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:58 PM EDT

Can't thank @RoweRikW enough for being an amazing co-moderator each and every week! #sblchat

DocRitterHville Mar 23 @ 9:58 PM EDT

Question for Ts: How have your admins encouraged Ts to get away from the game of school? #sblchat

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:58 PM EDT

This! #sblchat https://t.co/ZghtEHnHSm

hhschiaravalli Mar 23 @ 9:58 PM EDT

Q7: Yes. Hide your weaknesses. A COL would celebrate the opportunity for growth. Instead, false perfection, keeping up appearances! #sblchat

MeganCMoMo Mar 23 @ 9:58 PM EDT

@CHS_Morris @garnet_hillman I write the strds that I directly assess in my class.All are tied to the state.This removes the ceiling #sblchat

heather_edtech Mar 23 @ 9:58 PM EDT

A7: Some Ts use FA data to "play" while others use it to inform instruction & keep learning. #sblchat

bizedteach Mar 23 @ 9:59 PM EDT

Seriously, @kenoc7, @DouglasReeves, @rickwormeli2 & others have done the leg work on this topic. Heed their advice, #sblchat

KatieBudrow Mar 23 @ 9:59 PM EDT

Thanks again #sblchat ... another great one, as always!! See you all next week!

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:59 PM EDT

Brad, we are grateful for your wisdom each time we meet in #sblchat. https://t.co/19sEmVhoWe

BradLatzke Mar 23 @ 9:58 PM EDT

Thx @garnet_hillman & @RoweRikW for leading the learning on #sblchat

rickwormeli2 Mar 23 @ 9:59 PM EDT

@notsobigkahuna @stampingout #sblchat Teachable moment there: Replicate it in different situations -- Does algorithm hold up?

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:59 PM EDT

Thanks to @RoweRikW and @garnet_hillman for another interesting evening w/#sblchat - always grateful for my Twitter #PLN

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:59 PM EDT

Garnet, I just follow your lead! It's awesome learning alongside you! #sblchat https://t.co/OQg1yDU6x9

garnet_hillman - Moderator Mar 23 @ 9:58 PM EDT

Can't thank @RoweRikW enough for being an amazing co-moderator each and every week! #sblchat

DRich0696 Mar 23 @ 9:59 PM EDT

Thanks for a great convo tonight @garnet_hillman @RoweRikW #sblchat

RoweRikW Mar 23 @ 9:59 PM EDT

Shari, we appreciate you. #sblchat https://t.co/Kqy8neHJEN

Mrs_Krapels Mar 23 @ 9:59 PM EDT

Thanks to @RoweRikW and @garnet_hillman for another interesting evening w/#sblchat - always grateful for my Twitter #PLN

kenoc7 Mar 23 @ 10:00 PM EDT

As usual a great #sblchat. Thanks to @garnet_hillman & @RoweRikW & those who questioned sbl as it makes for a better chat. @stampingout