#engsschat Archive
Last Monday of every month, #engchat joins #sschat to form #engsschat. Stephanie Sukow leads this effort and her help is greatly appreciated.
Monday August 28, 2017
7:00 PM EDT
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#engsschat
! Thanks to
@classroomtools
for leading the chat! Please take a moment to introduce yourself, what you teach, etc.
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:00 PM EDT
Don't forget - Tonight we’ll be using the combined
#engsschat
.
#engchat
#sschat
participatechat
Aug 28 @ 7:00 PM EDT
Participate in the upcoming
#engsschat
by sharing resources and collaborating at
https://t.co/4u2c9PFI7m
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:00 PM EDT
Hi
#engsschat
, this is Bill Chapman, a retired secondary social studies teacher and host tonight. I'm checking in from Berkeley, CA.
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:01 PM EDT
I'm Steph, and I teach HS English and speech in the NW suburbs of Chicago!
#engsschat
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:02 PM EDT
Tonight's ?s can be viewed here:
https://t.co/m6NZAnrQRC
#engchat
#sschat
#engsschat
#ELAchat
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:03 PM EDT
There are also some great resouces listed below the Qs.
#engsschat
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:02 PM EDT
Tonight's ?s can be viewed here:
https://t.co/m6NZAnrQRC
#engchat
#sschat
#engsschat
#ELAchat
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:04 PM EDT
Q1 - In 1913, Thomas Edison made the prediction below. Why do you think it has not yet been realized?
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Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:04 PM EDT
Thanks for sharing these resources, Bill! Excited to talk about film and movies in our instruction tonight!
#engsschat
In reply to @classroomtools
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:06 PM EDT
Hi Matt!
#engsschat
In reply to @Mrneilhistory
mrsbyarshistory
Aug 28 @ 7:06 PM EDT
A1
#engsschat
docs/films are seen as being more opinion based/bias than books. Even though there is always a bias to address in books too.
historycomics
Aug 28 @ 7:06 PM EDT
Sorry - running late - first day of school for me and my children. Exhausted!
#engsschat
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:06 PM EDT
This is such a great
#MediaLiteracy
question. As technology has evolved, so to does our ways of learning.
#engsschat
(1 of 2)
In reply to @classroomtools
GeoJo22
Aug 28 @ 7:06 PM EDT
A1 Hello Bill. Schools are institutions and institutions are reactionary, slow, very slow to change. And there's always money.
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Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:07 PM EDT
(2 of 2) There's still so much to be gained from traditional texts, though. Can't replace a classic!
#literacy
#engsschat
In reply to @classroomtools
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:07 PM EDT
Hi Tim!
#engsschat
Welcome!
In reply to @historycomics
historycomics
Aug 28 @ 7:07 PM EDT
A1 books will always have a place - tv/movies don't allow us to delve deeply
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cheffernan75
Aug 28 @ 7:07 PM EDT
A1 I'd love to say that educators are the keepers of something sacred, but in reality education is SLOOOOW to change!
#engsschat
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:04 PM EDT
Q1 - In 1913, Thomas Edison made the prediction below. Why do you think it has not yet been realized?
#engsschat
mrsbyarshistory
Aug 28 @ 7:07 PM EDT
But that's just one part of it. Schools as institutions are slow to adapt to change.
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Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:07 PM EDT
No worries! I'm having storm delays on my end. Thanks for joining us, Tim!
#engsschat
In reply to @historycomics
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:08 PM EDT
Thanks for joining in tonight! I agree. The intro discussion in this book
https://t.co/SRex96l0ji
reinforces your point.
#engsschat
In reply to @mrsbyarshistory
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:08 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us tonight! Welcome to
#engsschat
In reply to @mrsbyarshistory
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:08 PM EDT
So very true!
#engsschat
GeoJo22
Aug 28 @ 7:06 PM EDT
A1 Hello Bill. Schools are institutions and institutions are reactionary, slow, very slow to change. And there's always money.
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tom_shields
Aug 28 @ 7:08 PM EDT
A1-Some kids enjoy the physical book-great memory of a story they loved. Kids keep trophies that matter. Gr8 books are trophies
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classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:09 PM EDT
Truth!
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cheffernan75
Aug 28 @ 7:07 PM EDT
A1 I'd love to say that educators are the keepers of something sacred, but in reality education is SLOOOOW to change!
#engsschat
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:04 PM EDT
Q1 - In 1913, Thomas Edison made the prediction below. Why do you think it has not yet been realized?
#engsschat
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:09 PM EDT
A1: Textbooks, novels, nonfiction narratives - all have incredible value and are only enhanced by other mediums (ie: film, music)
#engsschat
flipping_A_tchr
Aug 28 @ 7:09 PM EDT
Good evenin'
#engsschat
! I'll be on and off the chat tonight (last day before my kids re-start school)
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:10 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us tonight, Tom! Welcome to
#engsschat
In reply to @tom_shields
AssignmentHelpN
Aug 28 @ 7:10 PM EDT
This is Why Project Based Learning is the Future of Classroom Teaching
https://t.co/DO1t8BT1wO
#engchat
#engsschat
#plearnchat
Mrneilhistory
Aug 28 @ 7:10 PM EDT
Hi guys I'm Matt from Pennsylvania, excited to chat with you!
#engsschat
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:10 PM EDT
Hi Andrew, welcome for whatever time you have.
#engsschat
In reply to @flipping_A_tchr
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:10 PM EDT
Glad to have you joining in when you can, Andrew! Glad you are spending time with the kiddos before school starts!
#engsschat
In reply to @flipping_A_tchr
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:10 PM EDT
Hi Matt, welcome!
#engsschat
In reply to @Mrneilhistory
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:11 PM EDT
Q2 - What feature film or documentary is always a winner when you present it to Ss?
#engsschat
scottmpetri
Aug 28 @ 7:11 PM EDT
Hi
#engsschat
Scott Petri checking in from a scorcher. Triple digits in LA. Bill were you at the protests this wkend?
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:11 PM EDT
Yes, I have to admit, I'm still partial to the smell of books and the ability to annotate my thoughts by hand while reading.
#engsschat
In reply to @tom_shields
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:12 PM EDT
Glad to have you with us tonight, Matt! Thanks for joining
#engsschat
In reply to @Mrneilhistory
owensemilyg
Aug 28 @ 7:12 PM EDT
Hi
#engsschat
! Emily from NY jumping in a few late. 7th grade US history.
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:12 PM EDT
Thanks for joining in, Scott! Stay cool in that weather!
#engsschat
In reply to @scottmpetri
flipping_A_tchr
Aug 28 @ 7:12 PM EDT
A2 many parts of Glory make 'em cry ... the Little Round Top scene of Gettysburg is great to share ...
#engsschat
scottmpetri
Aug 28 @ 7:12 PM EDT
A2 One Survivor Remembers. The Gerda Weisman story personalizes the Holocaust for my Ss from a 15 yr's POV
#engsschat
GeoJo22
Aug 28 @ 7:12 PM EDT
A2 When I taught American history, it was Glory.
#engsschat
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:13 PM EDT
Hi Scott, welcome! In the 70s in Berkeley today. My wife was with the thousands of counter protesters.
#engsschat
In reply to @scottmpetri
mrsbyarshistory
Aug 28 @ 7:13 PM EDT
A2: Schindler's List is always powerful when teaching about the Holocaust.
#engsschat
historycomics
Aug 28 @ 7:13 PM EDT
A2
#engsschat
this movie connects with teenagers in a powerful level
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:13 PM EDT
Hi Emily, thanks for joining in!
#engsschat
In reply to @owensemilyg
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:13 PM EDT
A2: I love Louder Than a Bomb a documentary about HS Slam poetry! Students love it, too.
https://t.co/1QZiwetJqd
#engsschat
In reply to @classroomtools
cheffernan75
Aug 28 @ 7:13 PM EDT
A2 when I taught US history, Glory was always a favorite. At this point, I only use 5 minute clips -cant justify giving up 3 days
#engsschat
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:11 PM EDT
Q2 - What feature film or documentary is always a winner when you present it to Ss?
#engsschat
flipping_A_tchr
Aug 28 @ 7:14 PM EDT
A2 confession: I really dislike the "History of US" documentary series
#engsschat
philpuzz
Aug 28 @ 7:14 PM EDT
Phil from Sarasota checking in for a short time tonight. 6-8 WH
#engsschat
historycomics
Aug 28 @ 7:14 PM EDT
The soundtrack alone makes it a great movie
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In reply to @mrsbyarshistory
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:14 PM EDT
A2: I have also shown Speak: The Movie, a documentary about public speaking and
@Toastmasters
https://t.co/Xb6El17fah
#engsschat
In reply to @classroomtools, @Toastmasters
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:14 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us, Emily! Welcome to
#engsschat
In reply to @owensemilyg
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:15 PM EDT
Thanks for joining in tonight, Phil. Welcome to
#engsschat
.
In reply to @philpuzz
historytunes
Aug 28 @ 7:15 PM EDT
#engsschat
Apollo13 q2
scottmpetri
Aug 28 @ 7:15 PM EDT
Did you ever see the docu Resolved about policy debate? It's really good. Think it was done by HBO
#engsschat
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:14 PM EDT
A2: I have also shown Speak: The Movie, a documentary about public speaking and
@Toastmasters
https://t.co/Xb6El17fah
#engsschat
In reply to @classroomtools, @Toastmasters
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:15 PM EDT
A2 Lots of great films being shared. For me, it was the original 12 Angry Men.
#engsschat
historycomics
Aug 28 @ 7:15 PM EDT
A2 if you want something different - this is from the powerful autobiographical manga series
#engsschat
nolatravelwrite
Aug 28 @ 7:16 PM EDT
A2 Who Is Dayani Cristal. Especially after reading Enrique's Journey, the YA edition.
#engsschat
In reply to @classroomtools
flipping_A_tchr
Aug 28 @ 7:16 PM EDT
YAY! solidarity!
#engsschat
In reply to @mrsbyarshistory
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:16 PM EDT
I love using Psycho and The Graduate in my
#MediaLiteracy
course. Not teaching it this year, but those movies are always a hit.
#engsschat
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:16 PM EDT
Great film and what a wonderful cross-curriculum text!
#engsschat
In reply to @historytunes
scottmpetri
Aug 28 @ 7:17 PM EDT
So Cal ELA & Hist Ts: Don't miss
@SCSSA_Prez
's Conference in LA.
https://t.co/iKTgin0vvf
#engsschat
#sschat
#cwpchat
history_teach27
Aug 28 @ 7:17 PM EDT
A2 Hi
#engsschat
#sschat
Checking in, great topic! Much success showing Fog of War to prompt discussion of foreign policy across 20th c.
historycomics
Aug 28 @ 7:17 PM EDT
A2 my all time favorite, but I don't teach the time period anymore
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flipping_A_tchr
Aug 28 @ 7:17 PM EDT
A2 parts of John Adams [HBO] are strong...The Patriot may be reviled, but I think it was 1st film to show dissension about indep.
#engsschat
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:17 PM EDT
Hi Lisa, thanks for joining in.
#engsschat
In reply to @history_teach27
historytunes
Aug 28 @ 7:17 PM EDT
#engsschat
At its core Apollo13 is a story about problem solving. Added value of science and history. Q2
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:18 PM EDT
Q3 - What criteria do you employ to determine which movies to use in your classes?
#engsschat
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:18 PM EDT
Yes! I read the play with Sophomores & then we watch the film to analyze tone/emotional context. Kids gain a lot from nonverbals.
#engsschat
In reply to @classroomtools
historycomics
Aug 28 @ 7:18 PM EDT
Yes! That's exactly what I do - they give textual evidence for the techniques - powerful!
#engsschat
In reply to @cjguillaume
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:18 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us, Lisa! Welcome to
#engsschat
In reply to @history_teach27
historycomics
Aug 28 @ 7:19 PM EDT
A3 do the research ahead of time - can't be too off historical accuracy
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scottmpetri
Aug 28 @ 7:19 PM EDT
A3 With a flipped class, I rarely show whole film, but often tease w/scenes & recommend they netflix & chill.
#engsschat
flipping_A_tchr
Aug 28 @ 7:19 PM EDT
A3 age-appropriateness, accuracy (or errors we can/should discuss), portrayal of diverse or unique perspectives, narrative
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mrsbyarshistory
Aug 28 @ 7:19 PM EDT
A3 I have to be honest, I'm not a big "film in class" teacher. I only show Schindler's List because my dept talked me into it.
#engsschat
tom_shields
Aug 28 @ 7:19 PM EDT
#engsschat
A2 The Children's March by Teaching Tolerance/Kids as change agents = Awesome
historycomics
Aug 28 @ 7:19 PM EDT
I teamed up with gym teacher to teach a sawing dance class when we showed the movie
#engsschat
In reply to @cjguillaume, @mrsbyarshistory
flipping_A_tchr
Aug 28 @ 7:19 PM EDT
wait, seriously with the last part? [urban dictionary]
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scottmpetri
Aug 28 @ 7:19 PM EDT
A3 With a flipped class, I rarely show whole film, but often tease w/scenes & recommend they netflix & chill.
#engsschat
owensemilyg
Aug 28 @ 7:19 PM EDT
A2: Faces of America with
@HenryLouisGates
is a popular choice with my Ss.
@EvaLongoria
's family story is a favorite
#engsschat
mrsbyarshistory
Aug 28 @ 7:20 PM EDT
BUT I'd like to implement more films so I am furiously taking notes right now
#engsschat
massignmenthelp
Aug 28 @ 7:20 PM EDT
6 Game-Based Strategies for Teaching Mathematics
https://t.co/MUMCL4fWMT
#engchat
#engsschat
#plearnchat
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:20 PM EDT
A3: How the film fits w/course objectives, context, & connections that can be made all are used to determine which films to use.
#engsschat
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:20 PM EDT
You've responded to two later Qs with this one answer, Scott. Bravo! :)
#engsschat
In reply to @scottmpetri
scottmpetri
Aug 28 @ 7:21 PM EDT
Andrew haven't you figured out that everything I say has tongue firmly planted in cheek?
#engsschat
In reply to @flipping_A_tchr
SSHistoryEduc
Aug 28 @ 7:21 PM EDT
Agreed. I think it was. Also, just bec its bad/inaccurate doesn't mean it's not good curricular tool BEC it IS evocative!
#engsschat
In reply to @flipping_A_tchr
owensemilyg
Aug 28 @ 7:21 PM EDT
A3 How it enhances Ss' understanding of a topic, time, if it's age appropriate,
#engsschat
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:21 PM EDT
Class time always becomes challenging with film. There are so many great ways to use video to teach tone and historical context.
#engsschat
In reply to @mrsbyarshistory
SSHistoryEduc
Aug 28 @ 7:21 PM EDT
Love this! That's how it's done at
#engsschat
!
scottmpetri
Aug 28 @ 7:19 PM EDT
A3 With a flipped class, I rarely show whole film, but often tease w/scenes & recommend they netflix & chill.
#engsschat
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:21 PM EDT
Check out the resources at the bottom of the GDoc. Perhaps you'll be tempted to try one or two more.
https://t.co/zeRq8vBlHs
#engsschat
In reply to @mrsbyarshistory
GeoJo22
Aug 28 @ 7:21 PM EDT
A3 7th graders can watch about 10-15 minutes before they need to stop snd reflect. I use a lot of clips.
#engsschat
flipping_A_tchr
Aug 28 @ 7:22 PM EDT
I mean, the climactic scene vs. Lucius Malfoy not so much, but the meetinghouse scene and swamp warfare montage are solid
#engsschat
In reply to @SSHistoryEduc
SSHistoryEduc
Aug 28 @ 7:22 PM EDT
Yes. I couldn't agree more! Helps them contextualize, which is essential for ELA & SS!
#engsschat
In reply to @owensemilyg
GeoJo22
Aug 28 @ 7:22 PM EDT
A2b Forgot The Legend of Bagger Vance to teach Hinduism.
#engsschat
historycomics
Aug 28 @ 7:22 PM EDT
This Sunday at 7 PM EST, I will be hosting 2nd
#educomix
chat on introducing comics into the classroom - join us
#engsschat
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:22 PM EDT
Yes,
@scottmpetri
makes such a great point about saving and expanding time when we never have enough to cover everything!
#engsschat
In reply to @SSHistoryEduc, @scottmpetri
mrsbyarshistory
Aug 28 @ 7:23 PM EDT
A3 I also assign films as enrichment or options for choice assignments a lot of times so students can complete them at home.
#engsschat
flipping_A_tchr
Aug 28 @ 7:23 PM EDT
Surely you can't be serious....
#engsschat
In reply to @scottmpetri
SSHistoryEduc
Aug 28 @ 7:23 PM EDT
Me:
#engsschat
In reply to @scottmpetri, @flipping_A_tchr
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:23 PM EDT
Yes, shorter clips makes documentaries easier to show/teach than full films. Thank goodness for YouTube, too. Great point!
#engsschat
In reply to @GeoJo22
flipping_A_tchr
Aug 28 @ 7:24 PM EDT
It's Monday night, so we gotta get the GIFs workin'!
#engsschat
In reply to @SSHistoryEduc, @scottmpetri
flipping_A_tchr
Aug 28 @ 7:24 PM EDT
...and Keepvid to download the clips in case of streaming problems
#engsschat
#veteranteacher
In reply to @Steph_Sukow, @GeoJo22
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:25 PM EDT
Q4 - What book/movie combos do you most enjoy teaching? How do the books and movies complement each other?
#engsschat
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:25 PM EDT
I love all these ideas about how to increase Ss exposure to film while saving time AND inspiring further learning!
#engsschat
#inspired
In reply to @mrsbyarshistory
SSHistoryEduc
Aug 28 @ 7:25 PM EDT
For 7th G attention spans or to fit more in or both? Age appropriate & discipline specific!!!
#engsschat
In reply to @GeoJo22
scottmpetri
Aug 28 @ 7:25 PM EDT
In CA, we are supposed to be going fewer, deeper now, not sprinting through all the content standards.
#engsschat
In reply to @Steph_Sukow, @SSHistoryEduc
flipping_A_tchr
Aug 28 @ 7:25 PM EDT
#engsschat
#Not4Class
In reply to @scottmpetri
USHistoryIdeas
Aug 28 @ 7:26 PM EDT
Hi, Lauren Brown-8th g US hist. Mostly lurking tonight. Just started last Wed & I'm so tired! But I love using film clips!
#engsschat
SSHistoryEduc
Aug 28 @ 7:26 PM EDT
For teachers' happy hour!
#engsschat
In reply to @flipping_A_tchr, @scottmpetri
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:26 PM EDT
Hi Lauren, thanks for joining in. I definitely remember first week fatigue.
#engsschat
In reply to @USHistoryIdeas
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:26 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us, Lauren! You're a trooper. The first few weeks are exhausting for us all!
#engsschat
In reply to @USHistoryIdeas
GeoJo22
Aug 28 @ 7:26 PM EDT
A4 I don't teach w/novels but 8th ELA loves The Outsiders.
#engsschat
SSHistoryEduc
Aug 28 @ 7:27 PM EDT
As all should! As all should!
#engsschat
In reply to @scottmpetri, @Steph_Sukow
kwillmann
Aug 28 @ 7:27 PM EDT
A2 - Hoop Dreams
#engsschat
#sschat
flipping_A_tchr
Aug 28 @ 7:27 PM EDT
1945 Animal Farm book + 1954 cartoon ending + 1999 live-action talking-animals ending = 3 VERY different stories & messages!!
#engsschat
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:25 PM EDT
Q4 - What book/movie combos do you most enjoy teaching? How do the books and movies complement each other?
#engsschat
flipping_A_tchr
Aug 28 @ 7:27 PM EDT
most of my 8th graders wouldn't get it though
#engsschat
#innocence
In reply to @Steph_Sukow, @scottmpetri
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:28 PM EDT
YES! Hoop Dreams is amazing to teach narrative and the documentary
#engsschat
#medialiteracy
#HoopDreams
In reply to @kwillmann
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:28 PM EDT
A4 - I loved to teach Gaines' The Autobiography of Miss Jane Pittman along side the film with Cicely Tyson.The novel added depth.
#engsschat
scottmpetri
Aug 28 @ 7:28 PM EDT
A4 Going to try 40 Autumns and Bridge of Spies this year for Cold War. Also love the TV show The Americans
#engsschat
kwillmann
Aug 28 @ 7:28 PM EDT
Grapes of Wrath - combined with When the Levees Broke
#engsschat
SSHistoryEduc
Aug 28 @ 7:28 PM EDT
#Roots
,
#Amistad
...I wasn't too big on film. The new Social Education (
@NCSSNetwork
&
@SSLearn
) tho is all about film pedagogy!
#engsschat
In reply to @classroomtools, @NCSSNetwork, @SSLearn
kwillmann
Aug 28 @ 7:29 PM EDT
Lord of the Flies
#engsschat
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:29 PM EDT
A4: I've taught Fahrenheit 451 with Minority Report before. Fun look at a dystopian future.
#engsschat
historycomics
Aug 28 @ 7:30 PM EDT
A4
#engsschat
vaughnwmwatson
Aug 28 @ 7:30 PM EDT
A1:Continually considering possibilities of words & music authored by youth, beyond singular notions of sanctioned text.
#engchat
#engsschat
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:30 PM EDT
So many dystopian novels & films now being published and made.
#engsschat
In reply to @Steph_Sukow
SSHistoryEduc
Aug 28 @ 7:30 PM EDT
Dystopian future? Ooooor, our problematic present context? :/
#engsschat
In reply to @Steph_Sukow
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:31 PM EDT
A4: Fahrenheit 451 or dystopian novels also works with a movie like Pleasantville.
#engsschat
MrBettsClass
Aug 28 @ 7:31 PM EDT
A4 Love close reading the Sullivan Ballou letter & then listening to it from Ken Burns The Civil War if that counts. I'm SS tchr
#engsschat
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:31 PM EDT
Yikes! It is sad that there is truth in that.
#engsschat
In reply to @SSHistoryEduc
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:31 PM EDT
Definitely counts!
#engsschat
In reply to @MrBettsClass
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:32 PM EDT
Q5 -
@burgessdave
says he never throws a great steak/lesson on a cold grill. How do you prepare Ss to get the most from a film?
#engsschat
historycomics
Aug 28 @ 7:32 PM EDT
I HIGHLY recommend
#engsschat
In reply to @Steph_Sukow
kwillmann
Aug 28 @ 7:33 PM EDT
A5 asking them to storyboard crucial scenes instead of just using words for notes.
#engsschat
burgessdave
Aug 28 @ 7:33 PM EDT
Love the question, Bill!!
#engsschat
In reply to @classroomtools
owensemilyg
Aug 28 @ 7:33 PM EDT
Also
@FreedomRidePBS
#engsschat
In reply to @historycomics, @FreedomRidePBS
USHistoryIdeas
Aug 28 @ 7:33 PM EDT
Sorry, this is A2- getting ready to be using haircutting clip from BuryMyHeart@WoundedKnee 2 tch Native Amer issues. So powerful!
#engsschat
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:33 PM EDT
Love the slide, Dave. Thanks for sharing it!
#engsschat
In reply to @burgessdave
historycomics
Aug 28 @ 7:33 PM EDT
A5 trailers! Ask them to predict, plan a sequel, etc - more than just that one film
#engsschat
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:33 PM EDT
Thanks, Tim! I will check this out. Fahrenheit is one of my favorites to teach/read! Graphic novels are a great way to engage Ss.
#engsschat
In reply to @historycomics
kwillmann
Aug 28 @ 7:33 PM EDT
using reviews to highlight the message, content and techniques to look for in the film
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mrsbyarshistory
Aug 28 @ 7:33 PM EDT
A5 I have discussions and activities based on the part they saw throughout so it's more active.
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USHistoryIdeas
Aug 28 @ 7:34 PM EDT
A5 - To prepare Ss for films, tell them what to look for/notice.
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GeoJo22
Aug 28 @ 7:34 PM EDT
A5 Love movie trailers. Or posters. Or songs?
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scottmpetri
Aug 28 @ 7:34 PM EDT
A5 I ask students to corroborate historical details from film with their History textbook and cite page
#s
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kwillmann
Aug 28 @ 7:34 PM EDT
A5 Using the pause button to highlight key scenes. With this question--Why did the director choose to show it that way?
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scottmpetri
Aug 28 @ 7:35 PM EDT
That's awesome! Will you share it with
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classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:35 PM EDT
You will like this resource, I think.
https://t.co/1XnWEb45Po
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classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:36 PM EDT
Yes, please share if you can.
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Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:36 PM EDT
Yes! Quotes and taglines from a movie can be great anticipation guides, too.
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scottmpetri
Aug 28 @ 7:36 PM EDT
Thanks Bill & Steph. I gotta run to my fantasy football draft. Julian Edelman's gonna have a great year!
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MrBettsClass
Aug 28 @ 7:36 PM EDT
A5 - Make sure close captioning is on before starting. Kids will think deeper if they know exactly what's being said
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owensemilyg
Aug 28 @ 7:36 PM EDT
A5 Discuss a theme, show a clip, look at a still image, share article about the topic/film, intro a controversy - many options!
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Kenny_pal2
Aug 28 @ 7:37 PM EDT
Let's chat with the theme of
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Chat channel [free]
https://t.co/1bu6Vhhawb
Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:37 PM EDT
Good luck with your draft, Scott! Have a great night.
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historycomics
Aug 28 @ 7:37 PM EDT
A4 I also pair these three
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classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:37 PM EDT
A5 When appropriate, I let students run a mini sim that dealt with issues brought up in the film before showing.
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classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:38 PM EDT
thanks for your input tonight, and always, Scott.
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classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:39 PM EDT
Q6 - Given the easy accessibility of movies online, does it make sense to flip lessons & have Ss view them outside of class?
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SSHistoryEduc
Aug 28 @ 7:39 PM EDT
@engsschat
, love what you do!
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Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:39 PM EDT
A5: Short readings, nonfiction articles, and reviews of the movies can get the conversation rolling, too.
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historycomics
Aug 28 @ 7:39 PM EDT
I have them watch the trailer and ask them to make as many connections as possible - savages, bows and arrows, unobtanuim, etc
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BaldRoberts
Aug 28 @ 7:39 PM EDT
A2: The Truman Show. Great companion to Fahrenheit 451. Montag and Truman are both searching for the truth!
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mrsbyarshistory
Aug 28 @ 7:40 PM EDT
A6 for most movies this is what I do but I found the discussions the most powerful reason to show in class so I am torn!
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Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:40 PM EDT
I've always toyed with having an optional or extra credit viewing night. There isn't always enough time to show quality films.
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historycomics
Aug 28 @ 7:40 PM EDT
A6 sticky situation - depends on equal access to tech, etc, but great possibilities
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Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:40 PM EDT
Q6: As technology and ways to view film become more available, flipping a film/documentary becomes more realistic.
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MrBettsClass
Aug 28 @ 7:41 PM EDT
Q6: Teach US His? I've begun a new year of MrBettsClass song parodies/skits to cover the full curriculum.
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classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:41 PM EDT
Great points that definitely need to be considered, Tim.
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Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:41 PM EDT
A6: At times, however, analyzing film is best to do together - especially in a Film or
#MediaLiteracy
based course.
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kwillmann
Aug 28 @ 7:41 PM EDT
A6. Not so much. Teaching them how to read films requires stopping them and discussing techniques and message.
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mrsbyarshistory
Aug 28 @ 7:41 PM EDT
I did an extra credit one where they had to watch w/ someone else (parent/ friend) and then interview each other about the film.
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classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:42 PM EDT
But can't one do that in the class part of the flip?
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owensemilyg
Aug 28 @ 7:42 PM EDT
Agree. Not all Ss have access.
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SSHistoryEduc
Aug 28 @ 7:42 PM EDT
Follow
@Steph_Sukow
! ☝️diverse sources + 👇length = more juxtaposition to show convergences & divergences between perspectives!
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Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:39 PM EDT
A5: Short readings, nonfiction articles, and reviews of the movies can get the conversation rolling, too.
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USHistoryIdeas
Aug 28 @ 7:42 PM EDT
Yes, this is the issue I have. All of my Ss have devices (1:1 chromebook) but not all have wifi @ home which can be a challenge.
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BaldRoberts
Aug 28 @ 7:43 PM EDT
Lord of the Flies and Cast Away! Which would be harder? Alone or with a group? Lots of great discussions about conflicts.
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USHistoryIdeas
Aug 28 @ 7:44 PM EDT
A6 Yes, realistically, I like the discussion part of showing films.
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SSHistoryEduc
Aug 28 @ 7:45 PM EDT
@engsschat
, why can't I remember the proper hashtag?
#engsschat
! (It shouldn't be this hard!) Me:
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historycomics
Aug 28 @ 7:45 PM EDT
Have to run - great ideas!
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USHistoryIdeas
Aug 28 @ 7:45 PM EDT
Check out
https://t.co/zlyhbBuMrJ
for other suggestions about using film in class. More for
#sschat
, but also
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.
classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:46 PM EDT
Q7 - Do you prefer to use clips rather than have Ss watch full length films? Why or why not?
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classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:46 PM EDT
Thanks for joining, and for sharing your as always spot on thoughts, Tim.
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Have a great night and week.
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khewett102
Aug 28 @ 7:46 PM EDT
Ss love the new version of Roots, Iron Jawed Angels, and Blood Done Sign My Name
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mrsbyarshistory
Aug 28 @ 7:46 PM EDT
A7 Right now, I prefer clips but I think it might depend on the film/doc and purpose of showing.
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USHistoryIdeas
Aug 28 @ 7:47 PM EDT
A7 Clips!! Why? So much to do, so little time. Full feature seems like too much time commitment.
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GeoJo22
Aug 28 @ 7:47 PM EDT
Great point. I always show captions on YouTube though they are not always correct.
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Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:48 PM EDT
A7: To save time, clips are always more helpful. Also, clips allow for more conversation and connections between texts to be made
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Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:48 PM EDT
A7: It depends upon the purpose for showing the film and the learning objectives. Both approaches have a great deal of value.
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USHistoryIdeas
Aug 28 @ 7:49 PM EDT
Thx everyone! Will check out archive later. Gotta eat dinner!
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classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:50 PM EDT
Thanks so much for joining in, and for sharing your thoughts and experience. Bon Appetite!
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owensemilyg
Aug 28 @ 7:50 PM EDT
A7 Clips. More time for discussion.
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vamp_kris2102
Aug 28 @ 7:52 PM EDT
1971 Suzuki Other 🚗
#Suzuki
https://t.co/JoDzHqAizp
This rare vehicle runs on a 2 cylinder motorcycle engineThe
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BaldRoberts
Aug 28 @ 7:52 PM EDT
Full length! Do you only teach part of a book?
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SSHistoryEduc
Aug 28 @ 7:52 PM EDT
Love your stated motto in profile!
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classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:53 PM EDT
Q8 - What resources have you found most helpful in developing ways to encourage Ss to get the most from movies they'll view?
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kwillmann
Aug 28 @ 7:53 PM EDT
came late - leaving early - sorry and thanks
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SSHistoryEduc
Aug 28 @ 7:53 PM EDT
Thanks for the learning, everyone!
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classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:53 PM EDT
Thanks so much for joining and sharing. Have a great evening and week.
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Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:54 PM EDT
A8: I've used
@TodaysMeet
to have live discussions during film. It's great for encouraging Ss questioning and connecting.
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flipping_A_tchr
Aug 28 @ 7:54 PM EDT
sometimes yes
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classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:54 PM EDT
good night and thanks for joining and sharing.
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Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:54 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us tonight!
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Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:54 PM EDT
Glad to have you jump in! The archives will be up later tonight.
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SSHistoryEduc
Aug 28 @ 7:54 PM EDT
Do students pay more attention to
#YouTube
captions than to the
#teacher
? (Asking for a friend...🙄)
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GeoJo22
Aug 28 @ 7:47 PM EDT
Great point. I always show captions on YouTube though they are not always correct.
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GeoJo22
Aug 28 @ 7:55 PM EDT
A7 Clips. Its easier to highlight the historical point. And movies are meant to entertain and that could be distracting to 7th Ss.
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classroomtools
Aug 28 @ 7:55 PM EDT
a8 Be sure to check out the resource links at the bottom of the GDoc.
https://t.co/zeRq8vBlHs
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Steph_Sukow
- Moderator
Aug 28 @ 7:55 PM EDT
Definitely a fair point! Timing can be tricky, though.
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susankotch
Aug 28 @ 7:56 PM EDT
OMG - this is my mostest favoritest movie!!!!
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Perfect choice, Tim Smyth!
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GeoJo22
Aug 28 @ 7:57 PM EDT
Well, they can rewatch the clip. And I tend to have Ss look for their own answers. Dont ask me!
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SSHistoryEduc
Aug 28 @ 7:58 PM EDT
Agreed. My experience says longer you let it play, more disinterest emerges!
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