#ukedchat Archive

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Thursday November 29, 2018
3:00 PM EST

  • ukedchat - Moderator Nov 29 @ 3:00 PM EST
    It's 8pm. Time for #UKEdChat Topic: The All Seeing Eye: Behaviour & Technology Question 1 coming up...
  • ChargedUPEdu Nov 29 @ 3:00 PM EST
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  • ukedchat - Moderator Nov 29 @ 3:01 PM EST
    #UKEdChat Q1 How does your school now use digital platforms to monitor the behaviour of students? ▶Please use the hashtag & A1◀
  • stormeducation Nov 29 @ 3:02 PM EST
    Hi #ukedchat my first time here
  • LukeRicha Nov 29 @ 3:02 PM EST
    #ukedchat a1, just logging of incidents on pars.
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • TheresaLandreth Nov 29 @ 3:02 PM EST
    Good2Outstanding course with @bsp_london today. Inspirational speakers on leadership at all levels. So fantastic hearing about the outstanding work going on in schools despite everything is thrown at us #ThursdayMotivation #school #UKEdChat #schoolleadership #proud
  • teacheranddad Nov 29 @ 3:03 PM EST
    @ukedchat #UkEdChat A1 Just log any severe behaviour so that we can look for patterns.
  • ukedchat - Moderator Nov 29 @ 3:05 PM EST
    #UKEdChat Q1 again How does your school now use digital platforms to monitor the behaviour of students? ▶Please use the hashtag & A1◀
  • BunsenLearner Nov 29 @ 3:06 PM EST
    #UKEdChat
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • 4C3d Nov 29 @ 3:06 PM EST
    #UKEdchat Q1 - Are we referring to a) "non-compliant" behaviour, b) social behaviour or c) learning behaviours? Or all 3?
  • brassoteach Nov 29 @ 3:07 PM EST
    #UkEdChat A1- with difficult, repetitive behaviour issues I tend to keep an excel document that tallies the actions/potential triggers and students justification. Helps me to build up an idea of the child’s difficulties and plan the next strategies to help them.
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • ukedchat - Moderator Nov 29 @ 3:07 PM EST
    #UKEdChat
    • BunsenLearner Nov 29 @ 3:04 PM EST
      A1 Behaviour watch for garden variety swearing, disruption, poor behaviour and attitude etc. CPOMS for safeguarding issues. Behaviour watch should technically be used to log positive behaviour too.....
      In reply to @ukedchat
  • ukedchat - Moderator Nov 29 @ 3:08 PM EST
    #UKEdChat Q2 How does your school utilise publicly open social media platforms to monitor the lives of students and/or teachers? ▶Please use the hashtag & A2◀
  • JamieTa37990218 Nov 29 @ 3:08 PM EST
    We don't use digital platforms, I started using class dojo for behaviour management but didn't like it and the children didn't, so tend to use traditional methods. #UKEdChat a1
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • Matthews06 Nov 29 @ 3:09 PM EST
    When a school says how fantastic you are but you find it hard to trust them because you've been through two years of horrendous experiences you don't feel like making that commitment anymore. Toxic relationship? #ukedchat @RogersHistory @FakeHeadteacher
  • JamieTa37990218 Nov 29 @ 3:09 PM EST
    I like to keep a note book, in my opinion its quicker for me than logging it on excel etc, #UKEdchat
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • defenddigitalme Nov 29 @ 3:10 PM EST
    A1 #UKEdChat Do you include online monitoring platforms that pick up all behaviour (ie Impero, NetsupportDNA, Smoothwall, and many others scanning everything typed for bad language, content monitoring, vocabulary suggesting bullying and more; ‘safeguarding in schools’ software)?
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • ukedchat - Moderator Nov 29 @ 3:12 PM EST
    #UKEdChat Q2 again How does your school utilise publicly open social media platforms to monitor the lives of students and/or teachers? ▶Please use the hashtag & A2◀
  • brassoteach Nov 29 @ 3:12 PM EST
    #UKEdChat A1- for repetitive, disruptive behaviour, I tend to keep an excel document logging people involved, triggers, actions and justification for the incident. This then helps me to trial new strategies to support the child in the future
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • BunsenLearner Nov 29 @ 3:13 PM EST
    A2 We submit things which are twitter-worthy to an admin who posts them sometimes days later...My kid's school @Kader_Academy has a brilliant social media account, live tweeting eg. Sports events, activities, trips.... etc #UKEdChat
    In reply to @ukedchat, @Kader_Academy
  • maximjkelly Nov 29 @ 3:14 PM EST
    A1 We don’t use digital platforms for this. As @JamieTa37990218 says, traditional methods work just as well and are actually quicker and more efficient than technology in this particular instance. #UKEdChat
    In reply to @ukedchat, @JamieTa37990218
  • 4C3d Nov 29 @ 3:15 PM EST
    #ukedchat with reference to logging behaviour is there a difference between the practices in primary and secondary?
  • Vivgrant Nov 29 @ 3:15 PM EST
    My Open Letter to Every School Leader #sltchat #ukedchat #womened #bameed https://t.co/crEFR3DDvN
  • Hist_simulation Nov 29 @ 3:15 PM EST
    ^DHMr. Harms Favorite #SocialStudies links #ukedchat https://t.co/JWf0WOckEm
  • ukedchat - Moderator Nov 29 @ 3:15 PM EST
    @4C3d @teacheranddad Making lots of valuable points, but without the #UKEdChat hashtag they won't be archived to view later. 🥺
  • ukedchat - Moderator Nov 29 @ 3:16 PM EST
    #UKEdChat Q3 How can we inform students and colleagues of the potential ‘All Seeing Eye’ in terms of their use of digital platforms? ▶Please use the hashtag & A3◀
  • teacheranddad Nov 29 @ 3:18 PM EST
    Behaviour as communication. Practitioner's are challenged to ask what the child's behaviour is telling you. Noncompliance is usually "I'm bored or unchallenged." For example. #UkEdChat
    In reply to @4C3d, @ukedchat
  • 4C3d Nov 29 @ 3:18 PM EST
    #UKEdchat A3 - With teaching colleagues is it a case of professional behaviour and awareness? With students is it consequences - 'restorative justice' type of activities?
  • ukedchat - Moderator Nov 29 @ 3:20 PM EST
    #UKEdChat Q3 again How can we inform students and colleagues of the potential ‘All Seeing Eye’ in terms of their use of digital platforms? ▶Please use the hashtag & A3◀
  • maximjkelly Nov 29 @ 3:20 PM EST
    A2 My schools don’t monitor the lives of the teachers! And I wouldn’t be sticking around somewhere where my life was being monitored by the school I worked in. #UKEdChat
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • brassoteach Nov 29 @ 3:20 PM EST
    #UKEdChat A3- the toothpaste analogy is a good one for teaching children that once you’ve put something else out there online, you can’t get it ‘back in the tube’ I think the earlier internet safety is spoken about the better
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • ukedchat - Moderator Nov 29 @ 3:20 PM EST
    Don't forget the #UKEdChat hashtag 😊
    • RichardColes10 Nov 29 @ 3:20 PM EST
      Behaviour watch is amazing!!!! Personalised to the schools needs.
      In reply to @ukedchat
  • owl_physics Nov 29 @ 3:22 PM EST
    Need help with GCSE Physics? check out Foster's Physics helpful video tutorials! This one is on Specific Heat Capacity! https://t.co/DJkL2qrCM6 #ukedchat #science #asechat #nqtchat #ittchat #aussieED #edchat #physics #physicsteaching #GCSEs
  • RichardColes10 Nov 29 @ 3:22 PM EST
    Behaviour watch is amazing!!!! Personalised to the schools needs #UKEdChat
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • ukedchat - Moderator Nov 29 @ 3:24 PM EST
    #UKEdChat Q4 What are the essential ‘no-nos’ in terms of monitoring the use of social media relating to your students or colleagues? ▶Please use the hashtag & A4◀
  • owl_physics Nov 29 @ 3:24 PM EST
  • BunsenLearner Nov 29 @ 3:24 PM EST
    A3 By giving the responsibility of managing the school's social media account to someone who actually understands the premise of sharing/networking/building an online profile, rather than someone who just sees it as a trendy Ofsted pleaser...🤔#ukedchat
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • RichardColes10 Nov 29 @ 3:24 PM EST
    #UKEdChat Are staff finding this difficult with the GDPR regulations?
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • JamieTa37990218 Nov 29 @ 3:25 PM EST
    #UKEdChat Q3 very lucky that the dcf in Wales has made Internet safety a huge priority and all teachers have to teach it. Staff all have training for their own knowledge and for teaching. Everyone needs to know how to make sensible choices
  • ICTmagic - Moderator Nov 29 @ 3:26 PM EST
    Case studies from the news is an interesting way to bring the message home. How many people have lost their job/position by tweeting the wrong thing? (But then there is a president who became president for tweeting the wrong thing!!! Go figure!) #UKEdChat
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • 4C3d Nov 29 @ 3:27 PM EST
    #UKEdchat The PBCF is easily remembered - Please Be Child Friendly - when teaching and planning. Explore @4c3d.wordpress.com blog for lots of LQ and PBCF.
    In reply to @teacheranddad, @ukedchat, @4C3d
  • ukedchat - Moderator Nov 29 @ 3:28 PM EST
    #UKEdChat Q4 again What are the essential ‘no-nos’ in terms of monitoring the use of social media relating to your students or colleagues? ▶Please use the hashtag & A4◀
  • defenddigitalme Nov 29 @ 3:28 PM EST
    widely used standard web monitoring software do that in schools, recording all to profiles, but we found staff, parents and pupils not well informed if at all how they work, what they log and who can access profiles, why and for how long. #ukEdChat #A1 https://t.co/uImqPpAutd
    In reply to @teacheranddad, @ukedchat
  • BunsenLearner Nov 29 @ 3:28 PM EST
    A4 Don't say anything you wouldn't repeat in front of a chief exec/head. Don't share anything negative. Keep it positive/appropriate/useful #UKEdChat
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • stormeducation Nov 29 @ 3:29 PM EST
    #ukedchat Don't all schools cover Internet Safety at some level?
  • gemlcampbell Nov 29 @ 3:29 PM EST
    A1: at FE, we use the in house tracking system as either a note if low level for info or a warning which flags on their profile for all to see and escalate to coordinator if more serious. #ukedchat
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • brassoteach Nov 29 @ 3:29 PM EST
    #UKEdChat A4 my #1 : no matter how difficult the day, how horrible a conversation, how angry you’ve been made to feel. Never get personal online; with those you know or with those you don’t. Engage in debate on #edutwitter or ask for help from online peers. But never get personal
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • maximjkelly Nov 29 @ 3:30 PM EST
    A4 This is our “Engaging Through Social Media” leaflet : https://t.co/bCM0DICvCJ #UKEdChat
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • ukedchat - Moderator Nov 29 @ 3:31 PM EST
    #UKEdChat Q5 Quite simply, would a ban on all smartphones (teachers and pupils) help improve anti-social behaviour in your school? Why? ▶Please use the hashtag & A5◀
  • maximjkelly Nov 29 @ 3:31 PM EST
    Great advice 👍 #UKEdChat
    In reply to @brassoteach, @ukedchat
  • JamieTa37990218 Nov 29 @ 3:32 PM EST
    #UKEdchat does this mean in the school day or all together?
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • 4C3d Nov 29 @ 3:33 PM EST
    #UKEdchat A1 - Historically has a ban actually solved anything in terms of behaviour?
  • ukedchat - Moderator Nov 29 @ 3:35 PM EST
    #UKEdChat Q5 Quite simply, would a ban on all smartphones (teachers and pupils) help improve anti-social behaviour in your school? Why? ▶Please use the hashtag & A5◀
  • brassoteach Nov 29 @ 3:35 PM EST
    #UKEdChat A5- in my opinion, an across-school ban promotes a really unrealistic view of our tech-heavy world. There’s huge benefit in teaching the positives of communication & technology on smartphones, although policing it- particularly in secondary must be extremely challenging
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • JamieTa37990218 Nov 29 @ 3:35 PM EST
    #UKEdChat a5 I don't think a ban is necessary however we need to be better educating children on their use of smartphones and how to stay safe on them.
  • ukedchat - Moderator Nov 29 @ 3:35 PM EST
    Thinking was during the school day. Travelling to and fro there are safety concerns IMHO. #UKEdChat
    In reply to @JamieTa37990218
  • gemlcampbell Nov 29 @ 3:35 PM EST
    A2 I'm unsure of whether there is an official monitoring or if I was reported, but a post of mine saw me summoned to mgt for a chat. They claim they were just concerned about my well being after I explained it was positive. Rather odd, but hopefully it was well meant #ukedchat
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • defenddigitalme Nov 29 @ 3:35 PM EST
    Internet monitoring software if used, will be monitoring all staff, as well as children’s online activity. #UKEdChat #A2 (see staff case study p22 https://t.co/TfLB83a1tf )
    In reply to @maximjkelly, @ukedchat
  • 4C3d Nov 29 @ 3:36 PM EST
    #UKEdchat A5 Is it more effective to ban or educate? Opportunities for e-learning balanced against inappropriate behaviour perhaps.
  • BunsenLearner Nov 29 @ 3:36 PM EST
    A5 No, it would just give students something to complain about. I focus on getting students to manage their phone use, eg. when it is and isn't appropriate to use them. They can be a useful resource #UKEdChat
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • ukedchat - Moderator Nov 29 @ 3:37 PM EST
    #UKEdChat Q6 What student behaviours to you find to be the most annoying when teaching? How could technology help to prevent it? ▶Please use the hashtag & A6◀
  • gemlcampbell Nov 29 @ 3:37 PM EST
    A3: We have to remind them at FE as the drunken (and other) posts start to appear. It is part of the Welsh Bacc/pastoral sessions #ukedchat
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • maximjkelly Nov 29 @ 3:38 PM EST
    A5 Plenty of debate on this topic in the Isle of Man https://t.co/A2h0dHTmcf #UKEdChat
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • ukedchat - Moderator Nov 29 @ 3:40 PM EST
    #UKEdChat Q6 again What student behaviours to you find to be the most annoying when teaching? How could technology help to prevent it? ▶Please use the hashtag & A6◀
  • Vivgrant Nov 29 @ 3:40 PM EST
    These are the 9 ways you can forge more trusting relationships as a School Leader… https://t.co/J3X90MbVSs #SLTchat #UKedchat #WomenEd #PrimaryRocks
  • 4C3d Nov 29 @ 3:40 PM EST
    #UKEdchat A6 any 'tool' that helps build a learning relationship (PBCF) is to be explored. For example if you can associate achievement with a need for fun (as you should as a teacher) using technology then go for it.
  • brassoteach Nov 29 @ 3:41 PM EST
    #UKEdChat A6- having to repeat instructions- use IWB’s for step by step guide to success. Volume when working- tried @bouncyballs_org today for the first time, worked wonders.. as does music from YouTube!
    In reply to @ukedchat, @bouncyballs_org
  • stekra75 Nov 29 @ 3:41 PM EST
    A5: Prohibiting the use of smartphones does not help, they belong to the "world". We should teach students to use the devices sensibly and safely, and to show their opportunities #UKEdChat
  • defenddigitalme Nov 29 @ 3:41 PM EST
    *Compulsory* “consent” (it’s not) to social media monitoring of staff personal accounts recently brought to our attention in HE! Very hard to see how it would be lawful. #UKEdChat #A2
    In reply to @gemlcampbell, @ukedchat
  • ukedchat - Moderator Nov 29 @ 3:42 PM EST
    That's a good one. https://t.co/ekiEu86IyS Some people love it, but other hate it! #UKEdChat
    In reply to @brassoteach, @bouncyballs_org
  • gemlcampbell Nov 29 @ 3:42 PM EST
    A6: the blank disengagement. Tech such as kahoot helps to engage them but it seems such a fad and you can't really use it every lesson, tempting as it may be. #ukedchat
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • ukedchat - Moderator Nov 29 @ 3:44 PM EST
    #UKEdChat Q7 What routes to punishments or sanctions should be placed upon individuals where evidence is clear that their online behaviour has been negative? What are the consequences? ▶Please use the hashtag & A7◀
  • BunsenLearner Nov 29 @ 3:44 PM EST
    A6 I'm #SEMH and I find the most annoying behaviours are ignorance, eg. When a student gets a half truth/misleading/ill-informed opinion from a parent/carer/peer and repeats it. I get them to fact check/get the whole story/wider view using their phones #UKEdChat
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • 4C3d Nov 29 @ 3:45 PM EST
    #UKEdchat A7 Worth exploring 'restorative justice' approach.
    In reply to @BunsenLearner, @ukedchat
  • ukedchat - Moderator Nov 29 @ 3:45 PM EST
    Some of the tools of this are useful in a similar way. https://t.co/76jnQ5mbb0 #UKEdChat
    In reply to @brassoteach
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    Giveaway time! We have 10 subscriptions to our Science+Nature magazine on offer in partnerhsip with @TeachPrimary. Enter here for your chance to win: https://t.co/Z4nz8a3JA3 #prizes #giveaway #ukedchat #currentaffairs .@primarypete_ @MsFindlater @mrlockyer @Sue_Cowley
  • ukedchat - Moderator Nov 29 @ 3:47 PM EST
    #UKEdChat Q7 again What routes to punishments or sanctions should be placed upon individuals where evidence is clear that their online behaviour has been negative? What are the consequences? ▶Please use the hashtag & A7◀
  • maximjkelly Nov 29 @ 3:48 PM EST
    A7 The difficulty is often when parents report negative online behaviour between pupils that goes on out of school - in private homes on private devices. Whilst it’s not something to be condoned, do schools have any jurisdiction over the pupils in these circumstances? #UKEdChat
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • BrightlinkLearn Nov 29 @ 3:48 PM EST
    A5 for some traumatised children and young people their phone is a relationship in itself. It connects them as a safety line to others who care. I used to ban them from my classrooms until I learned this and how removal can retraumatisr #UKEdChat
  • stekra75 Nov 29 @ 3:49 PM EST
    A7: Their misbehavior should be shown with all facets, possible consequences should be clarified. They should reflect their future behavior and go online only after understanding #UKEdChat
  • gemlcampbell Nov 29 @ 3:49 PM EST
    I felt it was more of a warning shot across the bows, so to speak as someone somewhere has misread it as being negative against work/mgt re maternity. A v sensitive issue & not how it was intended. Limited word count & Twitter eh! #ukedchat
    In reply to @defenddigitalme, @ukedchat
  • BunsenLearner Nov 29 @ 3:50 PM EST
    A7 We have had some really good community police officers work with individuals on eg. Cyber bullying, grooming. They need to understand the seriousness of the impact of online malicious communication. It's not #banter #UKEdChat
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • BrightlinkLearn Nov 29 @ 3:50 PM EST
    A7 True Education, building relationships and early intervention trump sanctions and punishments every time. Ownership of behaviour and its consequences are more effective. #UKEdChat
  • ukedchat - Moderator Nov 29 @ 3:51 PM EST
    #UKEdChat Q8 How should we teach and inform students about behaving responsibly in terms of their digital footprint? ▶Please use the hashtag & A8◀
  • 4C3d Nov 29 @ 3:52 PM EST
    #UKEdchat A8 Suggest you explore 'Philosophy for Children' #p4c approach. I have used it to teach many things with great success.
  • ukedchat - Moderator Nov 29 @ 3:55 PM EST
    #UKEdChat Q8 again How should we teach and inform students about behaving responsibly in terms of their digital footprint? ▶Please use the hashtag & A8◀
  • JamieTa37990218 Nov 29 @ 3:55 PM EST
    A8 children need to know how the Internet and websites work. They also need to know about their own data and how they can protect it. #UKEdchat
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • LornaJFoley Nov 29 @ 3:55 PM EST
    Come meet our great teachers! @CAVC. Building relationships in education at our A Levels Academic Review Evening with @cerirmoore @MissWills @merthyr66 #edchat #UKEdChat #inspirational #inclusive #influential
  • gemlcampbell Nov 29 @ 3:57 PM EST
    A8: we do at FE. Maybe because it is a little more pertinent with uni and job applications and CVs but it does need to start much earlier! #ukedchat
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • ukedchat - Moderator Nov 29 @ 4:00 PM EST
    It's 9pm. Thanks to all who contributed to #UKEdChat. The chat archive will be at https://t.co/I6RGfo3bDu soon. View our latest newsletter online at https://t.co/SBrZqkbo2m. Subscribe via https://t.co/LqyTAEYW7C