#NGSSchat Archive
A Twitter chat focused one helping share ideas and host discussions around NGSS implementation.
Thursday July 7, 2016
9:00 PM EDT
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Welcome to
#NGSSchat
. We’re so excited you’re joining us! Please remember to include
#NGSSchat
in your tweets!
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Welcome to
#NGSSchat
. We’re so excited you’re joining us! Please remember to include
#NGSSchat
in your tweets!
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Welcome to
#NGSSchat
. We’re so excited you’re joining us! Please remember to include
#NGSSchat
in your tweets!
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Welcome to
#NGSSchat
. We’re so excited you’re joining us! Please remember to include
#NGSSchat
in your tweets!
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Please start by introducing yourselves with your name,what you do, and where you’re from!
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mnovakccl
Jul 7 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Michael novak joining... Excited 2 talk storylines
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Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Here's a story of a 3D Unit where Ss had to explain phenomena All of them engaged in discourse and sense making using practices
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wolfbioedu
Jul 7 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Chris Wolf, Biology Teacher/Technology Coach, Vernon Hills IL
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:03 PM EDT
We’ll be following a Q1/A1 format. Please respond to the question asked with an “A” andt the number.
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ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Marsha Ratzel, 8th grade physical science from KS
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biologygoddess
Jul 7 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Bonnie HS Life Science teacher from MA
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sci_innovations
Jul 7 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Samantha, high school biology teacher/curriculum developer, Bay Area CA
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reiserbrianj
Jul 7 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@FredEnde
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hi Brian reiser here Northwestern
richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hi
#ngsschat
. Rich B. Science curriculum consultant for Wayne County in SE Michigan.
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richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hi
#ngsschat
. Rich B. Science curriculum consultant for Wayne County in SE Michigan.
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mnovakccl
Jul 7 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Michael novak - teacher & helping others build storylines at NU
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@mnovakccl
Hey Michael. Welcome!
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biologygoddess
Jul 7 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Starting with the Brady Bunch already?!
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https://t.co/hkRmBr60TM
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Here's a story of a 3D Unit where Ss had to explain phenomena All of them engaged in discourse and sense making using practices
#NGSSchat
tahoecramer1
Jul 7 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hi! Roger Cramer, TOSA, Lake Tahoe, Ca
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schofield2007
Jul 7 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Kelly schofield , elementary principal proud to work for
@DMschools
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Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Ted Willard, NSTA's resident standards geek here tonight to provide allusions to 1970s sitcoms.
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https://t.co/uXUXNoA2ui
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Here's a story of a 3D Unit where Ss had to explain phenomena All of them engaged in discourse and sense making using practices
#NGSSchat
mrshigginsri
Jul 7 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Carolyn from RI Middle Sci T enjoying summer vacation!
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
Wow. Nice one.
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KRScienceLady
Jul 7 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Kathy, I'm a science specialist on Proficiency Based Learning Team (new title) in VT , not sure what it means. In day to day work
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tarantulamarch
Jul 7 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Tara McGill joining from Chicago, love designing storylines!
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2footgiraffe
Jul 7 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Adam Taylor science teacher and Fiance to
@TdiShelton
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MDHJohnson
Jul 7 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Diane Johnson from UKY
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@wolfbioedu
Hey Chris!
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@mnovakccl
Hi Michael -- it is so great to see you on
#NGSSchat
Thanks for joining
SEPUP_UCB
Jul 7 @ 9:04 PM EDT
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Wendy Jackson, curriculum developer with SEPUP at UCBerkeley
kmgill135
Jul 7 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Kathy, elementary science teacher NorCal.
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biologygoddess
Jul 7 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@KRScienceLady
Hi Kathy!
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VogelWendi
Jul 7 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hi all! Wendi from MI. Science consultant. Might need to just lurk tonight.
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misteraycock
Jul 7 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hi! Brian Aycock, Curriculum Coordinator in West Aurora IL great to be here
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@ratzelster
Welcome, Marsha!
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krademaker
Jul 7 @ 9:04 PM EDT
at a training last week and heard ngss was shifting away from Ph. due to pushback, anyone here know where this came from?
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DaskalosDouglas
Jul 7 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hi NGSSchat! Been a while but I'm excited for tonight. My name is Doug Ferguson & I'm a STEM Integration Specialist in Kent, WA
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@biologygoddess
Welcome, Bonnie!
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SamanthaBlau
Jul 7 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Sam Blau, external prgrm manager and science educator
@MDScienceCenter
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physicsedu2
Jul 7 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Laura Zeller here to learn about this community and story lines. I'm from the Chicago area.
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@sci_innovations
Welcome, Samantha!
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richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@biologygoddess
@Ted_NSTA
had that one locked and loaded apparently! ;)
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@wolfbioedu
Welcome Chris!
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Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:04 PM EDT
WONDERFUL NEWS
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/BKDhyj0Zd6
2footgiraffe
Jul 7 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Adam Taylor science teacher and Fiance to
@TdiShelton
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dandanscience
Jul 7 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Dan here Spec Ed Sci Coord. NJ
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@reiserbrianj
Hey Brian!
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@ratzelster
Welcome to
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@richbacolor
How's the new role?
#NGSSchat
johnlab_ri
Jul 7 @ 9:05 PM EDT
#NGSSchat
lesliefarooq
Jul 7 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
Brady Bunch!
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HenSciTeachR
Jul 7 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Hi. Jill, 8th grade science, Illinois
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@tahoecramer1
Hey Roger!
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s_moats
Jul 7 @ 9:05 PM EDT
QA Sharon Moats, science curriculum leader, Macomb, Mi
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@mrshigginsri
Hey Carolyn! Welcome, and keep me posted on any feedback you have. :)
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@biologygoddess
Hi Bonnie! Thanks for joining!
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@sci_innovations
Welcome Samantha!
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@KRScienceLady
Congrats on the new role! :)
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@mnovakccl
It's much easier to attend a tweetchat when you don't have to teach the next morning.
#NGSSchat
BillBlackRI
Jul 7 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Bill Black from
@WestBroadwayMS
in Providence, Rhode Island
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@tarantulamarch
Hey Tara. Welcome!
#NGSSchat
tjscience
Jul 7 @ 9:06 PM EDT
TJ from CT, I'm all over the place but I love stories unfolding through science - no matter how glamorous
#ngsschat
https://t.co/qoT3UWIIAW
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@reiserbrianj
@FredEnde
Thanks so much for joining us Brian!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@MDHJohnson
Hey Diane!
#NGSSchat
richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@FredEnde
Only started two weeks ago, but great so far. I keep PD that Sticks on my desk for comfort & quick reference, of course!
#NGSSchat
AdrianMcKay14
Jul 7 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Adrian McKay, Special Education Consultant in Iowa.
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@richbacolor
Welcome Rich!
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tahoecramer1
Jul 7 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@FredEnde
Hi Fred, glad to be here tonight
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msteckelberg
Jul 7 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Hi from SD. Marie, education consultant
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KRScienceLady
Jul 7 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Just a title, restructuring in VT Agency of Ed
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/JYKIlluQzj
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@KRScienceLady
Congrats on the new role! :)
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johnlab_ri
Jul 7 @ 9:06 PM EDT
John Labriola middle school science Rhode Island
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@SEPUP_UCB
@VogelWendi
Welcome Wendy and Wendi!
#NGSSchat
biologygoddess
Jul 7 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@FredEnde
@ratzelster
@richbacolor
that was ripe for
@Ted_NSTA
#NGSSchat
MDHJohnson
Jul 7 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@FredEnde
HI Fred! Glad to be able to attend, finally!
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Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@richbacolor
@biologygoddess
You know it! I tweeted it at the end of the last
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@misteraycock
Welcome, Brian!
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@tahoecramer1
Welcome Roger! SO great to see you!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@SamanthaBlau
@MDScienceCenter
Hey Sam! Welcome!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@physicsedu2
Welcome, Laura! Glad you can be here!
#NGSSchat
tahoecramer1
Jul 7 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@TdiShelton
Got time to paddleboard after Reno NGSS?
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Here is a definition of a storyline from
https://t.co/8wDbGuFw0D
#NGSSchat
KatieBudrow
Jul 7 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Hello
#ngsschat
... Katie, 6th grade science teacher, tweeting from the Chicagoland area tonight. Happy to be here!
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@mrshigginsri
Welcome Carolyn!
#NGSSchat
tjscience
Jul 7 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@mnovakccl
@Ted_NSTA
That's because you are the man! Early bird teaches the things...
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@dandanscience
Hey Dan! Welcome!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@HenSciTeachR
Hey Jill!
#NGSSchat
LPugh3
Jul 7 @ 9:08 PM EDT
LaToya, Science Instructional Support Manager/Coach, Memphis, TN. Glad to make it after a long twitter hiatus.
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@s_moats
Welcome Sharon!
#NGSSchat
Steph4Science
Jul 7 @ 9:08 PM EDT
#NGSSchat
Stephanie here,a science curriculum consultant for
@LabAids
in New England
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Q1. Coming up!
#NGSSchat
richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@krademaker
I heard similar and reasoning given was too much focus on phenomenal (wacky) vs. phenomena Worth discussing more.
#NGSSchat
johannabrown
Jul 7 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Johanna, a chem T & T Leader from WA, rolling in late to
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@BillBlackRI
@WestBroadwayMS
Hey Bill!
#NGSSchat
bickd
Jul 7 @ 9:09 PM EDT
#NGSSchat
Hi I'm Dawn. I teach K-5 science in Indy.
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@tjscience
Welcome, TJ!
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Q1: What similarities/differences exist between a common definition of “storyline” and the NGSS definition?
#NGSSchat
KRScienceLady
Jul 7 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Welcome!
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/mk4vZSPnon
LPugh3
Jul 7 @ 9:08 PM EDT
LaToya, Science Instructional Support Manager/Coach, Memphis, TN. Glad to make it after a long twitter hiatus.
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@msteckelberg
Hi Marie!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@johnlab_ri
Welcome, John!
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Here is a definition of a storyline from
https://t.co/Er72l4OH4v
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/xC8VE7PppW
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@KatieBudrow
Hey Katie! Love
#Chitown
!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@LPugh3
Wlecome, Latoya!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@Steph4Science
@LabAids
Thanks for joining us, Stephanie!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@johannabrown
Welcome, Johanna!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@bickd
Hey Dawn!
#NGSSchat
kmgill135
Jul 7 @ 9:11 PM EDT
If no phenomenon, what do kids have to make sense of?
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/2iSpLhq2tI
richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@krademaker
I heard similar and reasoning given was too much focus on phenomenal (wacky) vs. phenomena Worth discussing more.
#NGSSchat
science_4_all
Jul 7 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Kirk- I learn science with inservice & pre service teachers in WA the state- will be in & out tonight
#NGSSchat
marleyasmith
Jul 7 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Super important for Ts to have models to follow as they help Ss learn content through doing science.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/PQ7cKUW6aY
theresagray
Jul 7 @ 8:59 PM EDT
"Next Generation Science Standards: What Do Lessons Look Like?"
@marleyasmith
https://t.co/6npXGtFw9w
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: Both have acknowledge that there is an order in which things take place.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/k1o8lJfL1q
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Q1: What similarities/differences exist between a common definition of “storyline” and the NGSS definition?
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@richbacolor
:)
#Honored
! Would love any feedback that you want to share too!
#NGSSchat
tjscience
Jul 7 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1: A storyline is thought of as something that you WANT to follow - science should be something our Ss WANT to work to figure out
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MDHJohnson
Jul 7 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1 As I have been trying to understand and develop units, the big diff has been leading to Ss questions.
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misteraycock
Jul 7 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1-I want to read both! Both contain cliffhangers and can drastically change the way you see things
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mrshigginsri
Jul 7 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@BillBlackRI
You have the best in the country to learn from tonight!
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johannabrown
Jul 7 @ 9:12 PM EDT
#NGSS
storyline = students write the story.
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physicsedu2
Jul 7 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1: see below, I'm still learning twitter.
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https://t.co/g4OthIWl1Y
physicsedu2
Jul 7 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@FredEnde
They both follow a path of connections where one thing leads into the next and all the little pieces add up to the whole.
tahoecramer1
Jul 7 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1: coomon - plot to follow vs. science - phenomena driven
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@schofield2007
@MDHJohnson
@DMschools
Welcome to
#NGSSchat
biologygoddess
Jul 7 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1 Ss can construct meaningful ways to link old and new DCI
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johannabrown
Jul 7 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@DaskalosDouglas
You in on the
#NGSSchat
tonight?
sci_innovations
Jul 7 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1 - NGSS storylines = student's co-constructing the questions we're trying to figure out. The story is in all heads, not just T's
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@SEPUP_UCB
Welcome Wendy! We are so glad you are joining
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LPugh3
Jul 7 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@TdiShelton
I saw an EQuIP video that said Phenomena does not have to be phenomenal but must make Ss Ques
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/KBKPZAlkS7
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Here is a definition of a storyline from
https://t.co/Er72l4OH4v
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/xC8VE7PppW
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@docV216
Hey Meg!
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@misteraycock
Welcome to
#NGSSchat
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1
#NGSSchat
Ss lrning should b story of how something works, why it works in narrative that sticks w/them long after class???
MDHJohnson
Jul 7 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@johannabrown
I like how you captured this - has been my struggle to elicit.
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richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1: Common definition as in the ELA sense? For me, the NGSS version is 2 build a coherent explanation.
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https://t.co/fGzD6UI9eC
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Q1: What similarities/differences exist between a common definition of “storyline” and the NGSS definition?
#NGSSchat
mr_leonardi
Jul 7 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Nick Leonardi here from the Chicagoland area. I teach 7th grade life science and I'm enjoying learning about storylines!
#ngsschat
reiserbrianj
Jul 7 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@FredEnde
#NGSSchat
storylines are not *followed* by an audience- Ss should be helping TELL the story in ngss
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
Why is that so important?
#NGSSchat
2footgiraffe
Jul 7 @ 9:14 PM EDT
? Ngss storyline = a question derived from a phenomenon that takes us through many disciplines within science?
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A1
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@SamanthaBlau
@physicsedu2
@MDScienceCenter
Welcome to
#NGSSchat
We are so glad you are joining us tonight!
kmgill135
Jul 7 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1: NGSS storylines = teacher guiding students through sequence of lessons to explain phenomenon.
#ngsschat
MDHJohnson
Jul 7 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@TdiShelton
@schofield2007
@DMschools
Hi Tricia! Looking forward to learning more tonight!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@mnovakccl
Is coherence important to "traditional" storylines too?
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johannabrown
Jul 7 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@MDHJohnson
I think it can be incredibly challenging to get to this point! Takes many cogs.
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@physicsedu2
What would happen to the storyline if this wasn't the case?
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Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A1: Hansel and Gretel is a storyline I think of when it comes to NGSS because BREADCRUMBS are very important.
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ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:15 PM EDT
I think I really like this...plot involves "characters" in an "action line"
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/8YSfTvjgTq
tahoecramer1
Jul 7 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1: coomon - plot to follow vs. science - phenomena driven
#ngsschat
tarantulamarch
Jul 7 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A1:I think the similarity is in the group of things should be coherent, however to whom and what things are coherent is different
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LPugh3
Jul 7 @ 9:15 PM EDT
I actually saw a snippet of
@KRScienceLady
and
@Ted_NSTA
in the EQuIP video on the
@TeachingChannel
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/ygZfOIXcJu
LPugh3
Jul 7 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@TdiShelton
I saw an EQuIP video that said Phenomena does not have to be phenomenal but must make Ss Ques
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/KBKPZAlkS7
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Here is a definition of a storyline from
https://t.co/Er72l4OH4v
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/xC8VE7PppW
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@tahoecramer1
I would love that-- I have to fly to HI on Saturday though :)
#NGSSchat
tjscience
Jul 7 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A1: We know people learn in context & when things are meaningful to them. Science demo & worksheets are not that...
#NGSSchat
DaskalosDouglas
Jul 7 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@johannabrown
Yup. Though more on the learning/receiving side right now because I haven't done a lot with storylines.
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wolfbioedu
Jul 7 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A1: Storylines are process driven, not content driven
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@KatieBudrow
Welcome Katie!
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Bill Penuel here, joining late to the game and multitasking after a day of STORYLINING.
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@LPugh3
We are glad to see you LaToya!
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@Steph4Science
@LabAids
Welcome to
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:16 PM EDT
What is our current question?
#NGSSchat
. I can co-participate with
@dizzvh
who is here with me!
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@LPugh3
Fortunately
@KRScienceLady
was there to compensate for my ugly mug in that
@TeachingChannel
video
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@bickd
Welcome Dawn!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@richbacolor
Is ELA version similar? Different?
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mrshigginsri
Jul 7 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1 Sim: Both flow in an understandable order Diff: NGSS depends on the learner. Form Assess will drive the flow of discovery.
#NGSSchat
VogelWendi
Jul 7 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1 One difference is unknown. No longer write unit plan with exactly what doing. Ss driven with T predictions for devel of phenom.
#NGSSchat
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A1 Think storylines never end...we may have some of the story in one age band & it continues w/more sophisticated understanding.
#NGSSchat
tahoecramer1
Jul 7 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@ratzelster
replace characters with model? phenomena?
#NGSSchat
richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@mnovakccl
@reiserbrianj
@FredEnde
Folks of my vintage might think of “Choose your own” adventure books. Like that? Or not quite?
#NGSSchat
ChrisEmbryMohr
Jul 7 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A1
#NGSSchat
storylines could/should include PS,LS,ESS,&ETS - there are no silos
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Question 1 for
#NGSSchat
Join us!
https://t.co/5qUilRaie7
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Q1: What similarities/differences exist between a common definition of “storyline” and the NGSS definition?
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@reiserbrianj
Would traditional stories be better if this was the case too?
#NGSSchat
2footgiraffe
Jul 7 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@wolfbioedu
- is "content" the same as state science standards ( not ngss)
#ngsschat
https://t.co/4CHIuDX7dK
wolfbioedu
Jul 7 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A1: Storylines are process driven, not content driven
#NGSSchat
physicsedu2
Jul 7 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@FredEnde
If a story line does not have connections and lead from one part to the next the reader/Ss will get lost.
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Let me just say: I still love
#ChooseYourOwnAdventure
books!
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/YpEPZ7zbOF
richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@mnovakccl
@reiserbrianj
@FredEnde
Folks of my vintage might think of “Choose your own” adventure books. Like that? Or not quite?
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A1: Got it: Like common definition, storyline has suspense, plot, things that have to be figured out.
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@FredEnde
Because if you put the sentences out of order in a story, no one would want to read it. Same thing in science classroom
#NGSSchat
tjscience
Jul 7 @ 9:18 PM EDT
.
@bpenuel
I think
@dizzvh
needs to grow wings and learn to do the twitter all by herself!!
#NGSSchat
science_4_all
Jul 7 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A1: both imply a trajectory of learning that is more than marching through an instructional material
#NGSSchat
tarantulamarch
Jul 7 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
are you talking about NGSS usage of storylines or usage like in
https://t.co/i8PXiWdFne
?
#NGSSchat
biologygoddess
Jul 7 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Ss can reflect on their learning by tracing the story that they create over days/years
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/TimNdxNpmk
richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1: Common definition as in the ELA sense? For me, the NGSS version is 2 build a coherent explanation.
#ngsschat
https://t.co/fGzD6UI9eC
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Q1: What similarities/differences exist between a common definition of “storyline” and the NGSS definition?
#NGSSchat
LPugh3
Jul 7 @ 9:18 PM EDT
LOL! I thought you both were quite gorgeous.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/aCH2yyRxsq
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@LPugh3
Fortunately
@KRScienceLady
was there to compensate for my ugly mug in that
@TeachingChannel
video
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@kmgill135
@richbacolor
Agreed -- w/out anchor phenomenon to make sense of-- will Ss necessarily connect their experiences
#NGSSchat
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Won't it b gr8 fun 2 tch sci in this manner?
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/e9iag4uBF4
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A1: Got it: Like common definition, storyline has suspense, plot, things that have to be figured out.
#NGSSchat
tahoecramer1
Jul 7 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Great point, but can you anticipate the unknown?
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/rWwMJIXNCz
VogelWendi
Jul 7 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1 One difference is unknown. No longer write unit plan with exactly what doing. Ss driven with T predictions for devel of phenom.
#NGSSchat
KRScienceLady
Jul 7 @ 9:18 PM EDT
I'm not much more comfortable with my mug .
@LPugh3
.
@Ted_NSTA
I don't think your so bad :-)
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/6hRYflEWKP
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@LPugh3
Fortunately
@KRScienceLady
was there to compensate for my ugly mug in that
@TeachingChannel
video
#NGSSchat
richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@johannabrown
@MDHJohnson
Also to plan for S-centered storylines means Ts have DEEP content understanding.
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A1: Unlike common mng, need to navigate between creating a need for learning some externally defined content (standards) and S Qs
#NGSSchat
bickd
Jul 7 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@VogelWendi
This helps me a lot. Thank you!
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@science_4_all
Welcome Kirk!
#NGSSchat
msteckelberg
Jul 7 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Many forks in the road of the story. Challenge Ss to take path not well worn
#NGSSchat
Steph4Science
Jul 7 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@physicsedu2
I agree! Ss make stronger connections with context
#NGSSchat
VogelWendi
Jul 7 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
@FredEnde
But the prior knowledge of Ss and formative assmnts might lead you to different story.
#NGSSchat
wolfbioedu
Jul 7 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@2footgiraffe
In most cases, probably. I think of it as stuff that could be covered with a boring PPT.
#NGSSchat
MDHJohnson
Jul 7 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@richbacolor
@johannabrown
Amen!
#NGSSchat
SamanthaBlau
Jul 7 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A1 I think that both def allow for Ss to ask questions and make predictions
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Such a great group tonight for
#NGSSchat
. Thanks for joining us, and thanks to
@NSTA
for the promotion!
#Gratitude
VogelWendi
Jul 7 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@tahoecramer1
I think so, in many cases, esp. w/ teaching experience. I worry about newer Ts.
#NGSSchat
johannabrown
Jul 7 @ 9:20 PM EDT
And trained to take risks! Ala Ms. Frizzle
#teachingidol
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/a9uvK7IGsj
richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@johannabrown
@MDHJohnson
Also to plan for S-centered storylines means Ts have DEEP content understanding.
#NGSSchat
LPugh3
Jul 7 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@ratzelster
agree I always say if I was still in the classroom how much different my instruction would be.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/5yOyiFBWe0
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Won't it b gr8 fun 2 tch sci in this manner?
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/e9iag4uBF4
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A1: Got it: Like common definition, storyline has suspense, plot, things that have to be figured out.
#NGSSchat
sci_innovations
Jul 7 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@VogelWendi
I was wondering the same thing. If storylines = choose your own adventure, does the story change every class?
#ngsschat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@tjscience
Thanks, got it! And
@dizzvh
and I had the question of how we can make genetics about "building a super junco" today
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Love this! Ss experiencing the joy of figuring out their world-- science
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/57EQY5OFgI
tjscience
Jul 7 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1: A storyline is thought of as something that you WANT to follow - science should be something our Ss WANT to work to figure out
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@tarantulamarch
I'm talking about storylines the same way that
@reiserbrianj
(aka The Godfather of NGSS) uses them.
#NGSSchat
misteraycock
Jul 7 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A1-just like good book-not always traditional instr flow. Sometimes discoveries happen via more iterative order: coherence vs flow
#NGSSchat
reiserbrianj
Jul 7 @ 9:20 PM EDT
#ngsschat
absolutely that's what ngss storylines do
https://t.co/j6Uu5soX6i
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Won't it b gr8 fun 2 tch sci in this manner?
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/e9iag4uBF4
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A1: Got it: Like common definition, storyline has suspense, plot, things that have to be figured out.
#NGSSchat
johannabrown
Jul 7 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@sci_innovations
@VogelWendi
I think it can! Gotta check how you assess, though.
#NGSSchat
DaskalosDouglas
Jul 7 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Thanks
@science_4_all
as this is helpful
#NGSSchat
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A1 I don't think the story ending chgs w/Ss but the path can b different
#NGSSchat
VogelWendi
Jul 7 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@sci_innovations
I think it could, and maybe should? But can't go down too many rabbit holes. Are Ts ready for this?
#NGSSchat
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:21 PM EDT
NO.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/BwzxipTTb3
VogelWendi
Jul 7 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@sci_innovations
I think it could, and maybe should? But can't go down too many rabbit holes. Are Ts ready for this?
#NGSSchat
physicsedu2
Jul 7 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@FredEnde
@reiserbrianj
They are like the choose your own adventure books. (and the author knows where Ss will end up in the end
#NGSSchat
richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@TdiShelton
@kmgill135
Push back was aimed at phenomena chosen just for Wow factor vs. instructionally coherent phenom.
#NGSSchat
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:22 PM EDT
But we're trying and we're on our own storyline of Ts growth.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/BwzxipTTb3
VogelWendi
Jul 7 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@sci_innovations
I think it could, and maybe should? But can't go down too many rabbit holes. Are Ts ready for this?
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Q2: What makes a storyline different from just a sequence of lessons?
#NGSSchat
VogelWendi
Jul 7 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@ratzelster
Not even within limits? Amount of preps can hinder this.
#NGSSchat
DaskalosDouglas
Jul 7 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@FredEnde
I saw the
@NSTA
promotion and it served as a good reminder :)
#NGSSchat
KRScienceLady
Jul 7 @ 9:22 PM EDT
No but you might project different based paths based on questions students might ask
#NGSSchat
, unit plan flexible
https://t.co/mm7MrYcxJd
tahoecramer1
Jul 7 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Great point, but can you anticipate the unknown?
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/rWwMJIXNCz
VogelWendi
Jul 7 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1 One difference is unknown. No longer write unit plan with exactly what doing. Ss driven with T predictions for devel of phenom.
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@VogelWendi
@FredEnde
Ts know the destination (as desc in NGSS) They need to know where Ss are & guide them in the right direction
#NGSSchat
bickd
Jul 7 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@tahoecramer1
YES!! How do I plan when I don't know where my Ss will be? basics that I can cover until I figure out my Ss needs?
#NGSSchat
2footgiraffe
Jul 7 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Suggestions for judging the quality of a phenomenon as it relates to a storyline?
#ngsschat
@TdiShelton
@FredEnde
@Ted_NSTA
tahoecramer1
Jul 7 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@KRScienceLady
like anticipating misconceptions.
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@ratzelster
For engineering challenges, I think Ses actually also determine the story ending.
@SamSeverance
might jump in here.
#NGSSchat
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A2 Seems like backwards design (mcTighe) Ts know the ending pt but not how u will arrive.
#NGSSchat
richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@biologygoddess
Love to see Summary Charts or Driving Question Boards to help Ss see this develop.
#NGSSchat
kmgill135
Jul 7 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Different storylines can lead to the same end.
#ngsschat
Steph4Science
Jul 7 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A2: connections that enhance understanding but don't reveal answers b4 students can develop them
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@FredEnde
#NSTA
is always happy to help science educators, especially the great ones involved with
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Q2: What makes a storyline different from just a sequence of lessons?
#NGSSchat
KRScienceLady
Jul 7 @ 9:24 PM EDT
NGSS storyline takes a lot more T thinking about possibilities , anticipating S questions, figuring possible learning expereinces
#NGSSchat
johannabrown
Jul 7 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Yes! I planned a 6 week
#chem
bootcamp to get basics in, then we move to more inquiry with our foundation.
#ngsschat
https://t.co/qOIIpkuwOB
bickd
Jul 7 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@tahoecramer1
YES!! How do I plan when I don't know where my Ss will be? basics that I can cover until I figure out my Ss needs?
#NGSSchat
gablejen
Jul 7 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Coming late to party
#ngsschat
TTMobile_us
Jul 7 @ 9:24 PM EDT
#NGSSchat
is now trending in USA, ranking 43
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Plus in MS there is so much switching assignments. Hard 2 get continuity
#NGSSchat
I can c more hope 4 HS Ts.
https://t.co/o22nOJe1t1
VogelWendi
Jul 7 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@ratzelster
Not even within limits? Amount of preps can hinder this.
#NGSSchat
ChrisEmbryMohr
Jul 7 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A2 A storyline is a coherent story that keeps referring back to earlier info. Traditional lessons don't always connect-too choppy
#NGSSchat
kastidham
Jul 7 @ 9:24 PM EDT
#NGSSchat
hello everyone! Jumping in late. Kelly from ky
SamanthaBlau
Jul 7 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A2 We use storylines in our museum outreach lessons - there always has to be resolution, that might be diff from typical lesson
#NGSSchat
tjscience
Jul 7 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A2: Great storylines are insanely hard to write - and they need Ss input, and piloting, and revisions, and perfect phenomena
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
@VogelWendi
Should Ts always know the destination though? Should it ever be determined by Ss?
#NGSSchat
misteraycock
Jul 7 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A2-purposeful coherence > instructional flow. Figuring out a phenomenon lead us along a path that builds concrete understanding
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A2:
@dizzvh
says "So much, you have no idea"
#NGSSchat
KRScienceLady
Jul 7 @ 9:24 PM EDT
And students are the drivers!
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/l6P8Yec447
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A1 I don't think the story ending chgs w/Ss but the path can b different
#NGSSchat
LPugh3
Jul 7 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A2: I think with a storyline Ss guide the learning and instruction. Student-driven vs. teacher-led
#NGSSchat
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Agreed. By the time u incorporate math, literacy & collaborative instruc, it a whole lot more thinking.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/TYDwQW6gEY
KRScienceLady
Jul 7 @ 9:24 PM EDT
NGSS storyline takes a lot more T thinking about possibilities , anticipating S questions, figuring possible learning expereinces
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A2: Because it is driven by student questions, and not by what standards you need to cover
#NGSSchat
VogelWendi
Jul 7 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@FredEnde
@Ted_NSTA
Yes, need to know destination. Sometimes Ss take you down different and better path to get there.
#NGSSchat
HenSciTeachR
Jul 7 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A2: Storyline might not end when the bell rings; have to be willing to let the story keep unfolding.
#NGSSchat
tahoecramer1
Jul 7 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@bickd
that's a conversation past a tweet!
#NGSSchat
but in many cases I feel you can 'steer' a direction and validate Ss questions
2footgiraffe
Jul 7 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A2, based on what i have learned, it seems that a storyline is the core behind the lessons.
#ngsschat
https://t.co/llNMthxnQv
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Q2: What makes a storyline different from just a sequence of lessons?
#NGSSchat
bickd
Jul 7 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@ratzelster
#NGSSchat
How do Ts prepare for this??
sci_innovations
Jul 7 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@bpenuel
Is it not both?
#ngsschat
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A storyline has MEANINGFUL connections between lessons that are apparent to Ss as they experience them.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/l2qp5L4Fsi
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Q2: What makes a storyline different from just a sequence of lessons?
#NGSSchat
reiserbrianj
Jul 7 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@FredEnde
#NGSSchat
a2 a seq of lessons too often only makes sense to the T or curric. Next steps hv 2 be motivated from Ss Qs
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@tjscience
@dizzvh
Our inner fish, of course.
#NGSSchat
tjscience
Jul 7 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A2: But great storylines change the whole game! When students are hooked you will know about it.
#NGSSchat
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Fight 4 time 2 plan & collaborate. Do stuff like this? And pray!! ha ha ha
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/ar8B0f6iSG
bickd
Jul 7 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@ratzelster
#NGSSchat
How do Ts prepare for this??
mr_leonardi
Jul 7 @ 9:26 PM EDT
NGSS storylines are based on YOUR students' questions. Engaging!
#ngsschat
gablejen
Jul 7 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@TdiShelton
q2 monotony vs looking for where the story may go
#NGSSchat
johannabrown
Jul 7 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A2 Sing it to Frozen theme "Let Standards Go!" Students investigate and "do" science more authentically.
#NGSSchat
richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@sci_innovations
@VogelWendi
The path might. But it should end with the same understanding of the PE.
#NGSSchat
VogelWendi
Jul 7 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A2 The anchoring phenomenon is a huge difference. Ties things together. No longer just an anticipatory set for engagement.
#NGSSchat
krademaker
Jul 7 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A2 - Coherence is the key! It has to make sense to the Ss not just the Ts w/out coherence there are no connections
#NGSSchat
mrshigginsri
Jul 7 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A2 planning/flexibility by T are crucial to keep the storyline coherent. Otherwise you might be skipping pages.
#NGSSchat
KRScienceLady
Jul 7 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Anticipating Ss questions, don't do the work alone, Creates
#NGSSchat
storylines with like minded colleagues,
https://t.co/wmGyBqfGzU
bickd
Jul 7 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@tahoecramer1
YES!! How do I plan when I don't know where my Ss will be? basics that I can cover until I figure out my Ss needs?
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@sci_innovations
Missed what this is in reply to - -can you give context?
#NGSSchat
can be hard to follow :-)
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
What else?
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@2footgiraffe
@TdiShelton
@FredEnde
Here are some criteria for evaluating phenomena.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/IMaDDqGfpv
sci_innovations
Jul 7 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@bpenuel
are storylines only driven by S qs or also by the standards/content?
#ngsschat
bickd
Jul 7 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Love
@KRScienceLady
- my like minded colleague willing to share!!! Thank you Kathy!!
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@reiserbrianj
Storylines, in all senses, when done right, engage. Sequences of lessons? Not always.
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Yes, so important not to introduce anchor and leave it behind.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/ca276mfkqn
VogelWendi
Jul 7 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A2 The anchoring phenomenon is a huge difference. Ties things together. No longer just an anticipatory set for engagement.
#NGSSchat
MDHJohnson
Jul 7 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A2 Concept building requires purposeful selection of experiences - what's the path to a more sci robust understanding?
#NGSSchat
biologygoddess
Jul 7 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A2 important to keep Ss focused while exploring, provide guidance, imp for Ts to be content masters - think steps ahead
#NGSSchat
gablejen
Jul 7 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@bickd
@tahoecramer1
I agree preassessments don't always give us what they don't know
#NGSSchat
richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@VogelWendi
@sci_innovations
Hi Wendi! Long time no talk/chat/see. And honestly no, I wasn’t ready and I had lots of support.
#NGSSchat
DaskalosDouglas
Jul 7 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A2 Phenomenon serves as initial conflict to hook S interest & provide common thread as move to resolution
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/9YvrssEVlU
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Q2: What makes a storyline different from just a sequence of lessons?
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@FredEnde
@VogelWendi
Some may disagree, but I say yes, Ts should know where they want to go.
#NGSSchat
VogelWendi
Jul 7 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@richbacolor
@sci_innovations
Working in the summer...have fun! We'll have to chat!
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:29 PM EDT
The art of teaching is getting students to choose to go there with out saying "Go that way!"
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/kfwzlMQuF8
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
@VogelWendi
Should Ts always know the destination though? Should it ever be determined by Ss?
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:29 PM EDT
And test, iterate, iterate, and iterate some more
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/AG0IdIYKKz
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Fight 4 time 2 plan & collaborate. Do stuff like this? And pray!! ha ha ha
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/ar8B0f6iSG
bickd
Jul 7 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@ratzelster
#NGSSchat
How do Ts prepare for this??
dandanscience
Jul 7 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A2 Ss can build on their own curiosity rather than rely on T or spoonfed & take some ownership
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@DaskalosDouglas
Say more about "conflict" here - conflict how?
#NGSSchat
LPugh3
Jul 7 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@bickd
@tahoecramer1
They do help us to identify pre/misconceptions when Ss have to explain their thinking
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/nEte0ejhvl
gablejen
Jul 7 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@bickd
@tahoecramer1
I agree preassessments don't always give us what they don't know
#NGSSchat
gablejen
Jul 7 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@FredEnde
@reiserbrianj
best story I built was what organism is most related to whale. Each day we got a new piece of evidence
#NGSSchat
kmgill135
Jul 7 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Just wrote a storyline for a sequence I did last school year. Still needs modification. Will be better next year.
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
True. I also think the art is helping students find their own way with a hand ready to steady them if needed. :)
#NGSSchat
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:30 PM EDT
I agree. Ts cr8 momentum & enthusiasm w/sucks everyone 2 join them.
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https://t.co/ulfDnKR9XZ
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:29 PM EDT
The art of teaching is getting students to choose to go there with out saying "Go that way!"
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/kfwzlMQuF8
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
@VogelWendi
Should Ts always know the destination though? Should it ever be determined by Ss?
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msteckelberg
Jul 7 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Sequence of lessons-jumping from one rock to another. Storyline-flowing down a stream - fwd movement with twists & turns
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MDHJohnson
Jul 7 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@dandanscience
Like "build on their own curiosity"
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Great comparison!
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https://t.co/tJxpaZZVRY
kastidham
Jul 7 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@FredEnde
@reiserbrianj
difference between Planning/preparing and just having a plan?
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hat
biologygoddess
Jul 7 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@bickd
@tahoecramer1
Ask guiding questions to coax Ss to stay on or close to track
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nlrhoades
Jul 7 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Nicole Rhoades, 7th grade science teacher & dept chair, joining late from Maryland via Rhode Island
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richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A2: Asking the Ss to determine what evidence is needed to move to the next part of the story/explanation.
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https://t.co/g8t6iVg0Hx
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Q2: What makes a storyline different from just a sequence of lessons?
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physicsedu2
Jul 7 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A2: Story lines are a map of the discovery process, a sequence is the order you cover topics. SLs are question/phenom. driven
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dizzvh
Jul 7 @ 9:31 PM EDT
.
@mnovakccl
@reiserbrianj
@SamSeverance
Are you all sitting at dinner together contributing to
#NGSSchat
?
#Rockstarlineup
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@gablejen
@reiserbrianj
How else did it play out like a storyline?
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bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Hey, how is multitasking dinner and
#NGSSchat
,
@mnovakccl
@reiserbrianj
and
@SamSeverance
? Hopefully better than multitasking review
@dizzvh
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@mnovakccl
I think that phenomena are like breadcrumbs. We use them to guide students during instruction
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ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A2
#NGSSchat
Series of lessons is connected in Ts head. Storyline forces u 2 go back 2 anchor & build story thru climax 2 ending!
bickd
Jul 7 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@johannabrown
This is scary. I want to make sure my Ss are ready for assessments. How can I do both?
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Q3. coming up now!!! And one more exclamation point for emphasis. !
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Q3: What role do questions play in the development of unit storylines?
#NGSSchat
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A2...it's a whole build it as u go along kind of thing.
#NGSSchat
Thats what diff about set of lessons & storyline.
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Such a great point-- Do the Ss understand how what they are figuring out fits into the larger picture
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https://t.co/EUNBQpuf2c
krademaker
Jul 7 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A2 - Coherence is the key! It has to make sense to the Ss not just the Ts w/out coherence there are no connections
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SamanthaBlau
Jul 7 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Had an instructor who talked about building the airplane mid-flight
@Ted_NSTA
@FredEnde
@VogelWendi
#NGSSchat
KRScienceLady
Jul 7 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Yes,all learning experiences should help Ss answr focusing ? based anchoring phenomena,
#NGSSchat
If not don't do it
https://t.co/vJa4XrCee2
DaskalosDouglas
Jul 7 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A2 Phenomenon serves as initial conflict to hook S interest & provide common thread as move to resolution
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https://t.co/9YvrssEVlU
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Q2: What makes a storyline different from just a sequence of lessons?
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mrshigginsri
Jul 7 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@msteckelberg
and there are different paths that all lead to the same place, some more challenging.
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gablejen
Jul 7 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@FredEnde
@reiserbrianj
by allowing ss to review the evidence and not leading them towards the 'right' and
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DaskalosDouglas
Jul 7 @ 9:33 PM EDT
That's a little bit of my own Q too, but I'd say in most cases a level of cognitive dissonance for the S's
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https://t.co/G0lwRsl74P
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@DaskalosDouglas
Say more about "conflict" here - conflict how?
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biologygoddess
Jul 7 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@VogelWendi
@FredEnde
@Ted_NSTA
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/uqSir2IVPh
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@mnovakccl
@FredEnde
@VogelWendi
There are many paths to the destination, and Ss can find ones that Ts never even thought of.
#NGSSchat
johannabrown
Jul 7 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@bickd
I'm hoping that new
#NGSS
aligned assessments match process-orientation not memorization.
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Criteria for evaluating phenomena
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https://t.co/HEkwgs54Nw
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@2footgiraffe
@TdiShelton
@FredEnde
Here are some criteria for evaluating phenomena.
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https://t.co/IMaDDqGfpv
krademaker
Jul 7 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
Ts are the neck that turns the Ss head where we need it to go Ss are more invested when they think it is their idea
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MDHJohnson
Jul 7 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A3 Questions are key - Ss and Ts. Breadcrumbs of storyline answer each question as it builds towards understanding.
#NGSSchat
KRScienceLady
Jul 7 @ 9:34 PM EDT
We are all learners in this process
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/V7kN4zO00y
kmgill135
Jul 7 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Just wrote a storyline for a sequence I did last school year. Still needs modification. Will be better next year.
#ngsschat
LPugh3
Jul 7 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@bickd
It is a mind shift that has to be made in the district, with admins, and with teachers.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/GauNMCfRTl
bickd
Jul 7 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@johannabrown
This is scary. I want to make sure my Ss are ready for assessments. How can I do both?
#NGSSchat
gablejen
Jul 7 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@LPugh3
@bickd
@tahoecramer1
only when the questions pull out these ideas.
#NGSSchat
VogelWendi
Jul 7 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@SamanthaBlau
@Ted_NSTA
@FredEnde
Agreed. Many started NGSS b4 storylines were intro-ed. Now lots of things not aligned, but say r
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notbrianreiser
Jul 7 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A3: Ss questions are super important- Why isn't this a worksheet? Why aren't you telling me the answers? Why must I remain awake?
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@DaskalosDouglas
Smtimes it's not dissonance that serves as a good anchor, but something that begs explaining, or needs solving
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@mnovakccl
@Ted_NSTA
@VogelWendi
Right. Focus on the why!
#NGSSchat
richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A2.5: Remember when you could just consult the “common misconceptions” list for a concept & pick lessons from that?
#NGSSchat
#notgoingback
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@gablejen
@reiserbrianj
Do traditional stories do this?
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bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A3: Anticipated student questions drive the storyline forward
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ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A3...Asking ?s is hard. Just worked on incorporating discussion structure on lrning how 2 ask open-ended ?s
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Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Storylines can't exist without questions. Its one of the basic building blocks
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/wcA7RgzYQA
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Q3: What role do questions play in the development of unit storylines?
#NGSSchat
KatieBudrow
Jul 7 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A3 If the storyline is the road, then the questions are driving the car. Keeps you moving forward on the path.
#NGSSchat
richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@bpenuel
@tjscience
@dizzvh
Tweeting from the zip line tonight? We need a Vine of that.
#NGSSchat
johnlab_ri
Jul 7 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A3 Is it the question or the student discourse as they try to answer the question that drives the storyline
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Question 3 here
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/IJeVX7Yxjn
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Q3: What role do questions play in the development of unit storylines?
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Along with phenomena and practices
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/bqVJ70toMs
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Storylines can't exist without questions. Its one of the basic building blocks
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/wcA7RgzYQA
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Q3: What role do questions play in the development of unit storylines?
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Not Brian makes an appearance! Yay!!!!
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/jxFfCiEX1m
notbrianreiser
Jul 7 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A3: Ss questions are super important- Why isn't this a worksheet? Why aren't you telling me the answers? Why must I remain awake?
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@nlrhoades
Welcome Nicole
#NGSSchat
physicsedu2
Jul 7 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A3- Questions are the driving force behind the SL. The answ to one ? leads to the next phenom and ?s
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johannabrown
Jul 7 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A3: Questions are the new (old?) currency of learning! Important for both Ss and Ts to do more in sci classrooms.
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ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Not all ?s r useful...do Ss know how 2 do this without instruction? I don't think so.
#NGSSchat
It's one of those softskills
biologygoddess
Jul 7 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@bickd
@johannabrown
Ss who understand phenomena at that level will do well on assessments
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nlrhoades
Jul 7 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A3: There will have to be T anticipated q's & S generated q's
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
Examples?
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misteraycock
Jul 7 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A3-Predicting S ?-most fun part-trying to get in2 their heads and then trying not to jump up and down when they actually ask them!
#NGSSchat
cdepatie1
Jul 7 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@FredEnde
Stories are built around a plot (science phenomena) that go through some twists and turns.
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dizzvh
Jul 7 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@richbacolor
@bpenuel
@tjscience
We are very near to the zipline but too busy taking
#NGSSchat
seriously to vine it.
gablejen
Jul 7 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@LPugh3
@bickd
@johannabrown
yes we do want our ss to be ready. In 2018 we will have the MISA. 3 YRS of science will be tested
#ngsschat
KRScienceLady
Jul 7 @ 9:37 PM EDT
I tell Ts, Ss who experience quality
#NGSS
instruction will do fine on assessments.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/snd5wKrML5
bickd
Jul 7 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@johannabrown
This is scary. I want to make sure my Ss are ready for assessments. How can I do both?
#NGSSchat
DaskalosDouglas
Jul 7 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@bpenuel
This makes good sense & is definitely why I qualified my answer. Thanks!
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ChrisEmbryMohr
Jul 7 @ 9:37 PM EDT
#NGSschat
Use the SEP and CCC matrices for help in forming your questions. I use them almost daily.
@ratzelster
mrshigginsri
Jul 7 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A3 Qs help the T to guide Ss to think of ideas staying on track. Like cryptic clues in treasure hunt that have to be figured out
#NGSSchat
tahoecramer1
Jul 7 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A3: questions create buyin from Ss need to validate
#ngsschat
in unit storyline
https://t.co/xO7Ed6EcRf
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Q3: What role do questions play in the development of unit storylines?
#NGSSchat
VogelWendi
Jul 7 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A huge concern 2 all Ts. MI is mirroring the instructional process w/ new assessment w/
@tjheckyeah
.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/RR5rAxMbF4
bickd
Jul 7 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@johannabrown
This is scary. I want to make sure my Ss are ready for assessments. How can I do both?
#NGSSchat
sci_innovations
Jul 7 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A3-Start w/ an essential Q (T generated) that is answered with student Qs about phenomena. All things lead back to the essential Q
#ngsschat
LPugh3
Jul 7 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A3: Ss questions are what drive the storyline. When they stop asking, the story ends, the interest is gone, the motivation is lost
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@cdepatie1
If the phenomena are the plot, what/who are the characters?
#NGSSchat
nlrhoades
Jul 7 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@misteraycock
this exactly! But they always throw you some curve balls too!
#ngsschat
#middleschoolersareunpredictable
krademaker
Jul 7 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A3 Ss questions get them invested in their learning, if they are asking questions they want to know & figure out
#NGSSchat
bickd
Jul 7 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@krademaker
@Ted_NSTA
Love My BIg Fat Greek Wedding reference!!
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A3: For student questions to drive forward, Ts need strategies to help Ss refine, prioritize questions
https://t.co/EFe8HIASoN
#NGSSchat
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Gr8 ?.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/anpKpAhIND
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@cdepatie1
If the phenomena are the plot, what/who are the characters?
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@tahoecramer1
Do the questions lead to buy-in directly, or is there more?
#NGSSchat
misteraycock
Jul 7 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A3-Student questions not just validated but actually explored. Their wonder drives instruction, not the textbook ? for chapter 3
#NGSSchat
kmgill135
Jul 7 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A3: storylines are a cascade of student and teacher generated questions.
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Yes! The wonderful quest for understanding/ collective wisdom
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/bd49Kr5v2g
KRScienceLady
Jul 7 @ 9:34 PM EDT
We are all learners in this process
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/V7kN4zO00y
kmgill135
Jul 7 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Just wrote a storyline for a sequence I did last school year. Still needs modification. Will be better next year.
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@CAtoGAtoPA
@bamameghan
@mmingle1
Oh. No. That might be a bad idea.
#NGSSchat
gablejen
Jul 7 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
@mnovakccl
@FredEnde
@VogelWendi
and that is a mind shift too. Ts must be willing to let ss be navigators
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@reiserbrianj
@notbrianreiser
They say he is quite a lively zip-liner
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@FredEnde
@cdepatie1
Students are characters Phenomena are the antagonists Practices are the plot
#NGSSchat
dandanscience
Jul 7 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A3
https://t.co/rOD9hf9H1J
nice breakdown
@NSTA
#NGSSchat
nlrhoades
Jul 7 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@LPugh3
This will need to be taught a la SEPs. Getting Ss to generate quality Qs - emphasis on quality over quantity
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Love it!
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/2rxAtmtBCy
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@FredEnde
Example swiped from
@reiserbrianj
https://t.co/FfnH7AV7ub
VogelWendi
Jul 7 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@mrshigginsri
@SamanthaBlau
@Ted_NSTA
@FredEnde
Big or small change? I don't. This is huge shift. Revolution, w/ some evolution.
#NGSSchat
tahoecramer1
Jul 7 @ 9:40 PM EDT
the q's can drive the story and also be used to assess Ss
#ngsschat
https://t.co/8mGmOSPy4r
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@tahoecramer1
Do the questions lead to buy-in directly, or is there more?
#NGSSchat
MDHJohnson
Jul 7 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@bpenuel
Thank you for all of your wonderful tools! Helping those of us wandering in the wilderness.
#NGSSchat
misteraycock
Jul 7 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Haha they do the same in elementary! Some times a bit messier than others!@nlrhoades
#ngsschat
mr_leonardi
Jul 7 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Questions in a storyline are like chapter titles of a book. The investigating, etc. is the text. It helps explain the titles
#ngsschat
biologygoddess
Jul 7 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
@FredEnde
@VogelWendi
there are many ways to explain the same thing, but every S gets to the same place
#NGSSchat
sci_innovations
Jul 7 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Wonderful strategy to get students to ask/refine/use good questions:
https://t.co/gXdm06xbg3
#ngsschat
richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A3: Also had parent ask me, “Why aren’t YOU teaching? I don’t send my child to listen to other children!”
#ngsschat
https://t.co/QUb3vKFcMp
notbrianreiser
Jul 7 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A3: Ss questions are super important- Why isn't this a worksheet? Why aren't you telling me the answers? Why must I remain awake?
#NGSSchat
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:40 PM EDT
This doens't make sense 2 me.
#NGSSchat
Can u say more?
https://t.co/K5ATLAq0zX
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@FredEnde
@cdepatie1
Students are characters Phenomena are the antagonists Practices are the plot
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@mrshigginsri
@SamanthaBlau
@Ted_NSTA
@VogelWendi
It's always good to fly it, and then land it and make mods. :)
#NGSSchat
MDHJohnson
Jul 7 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@misteraycock
"Wonder drives instruction..." Lovely!
#NGSSchat
DaskalosDouglas
Jul 7 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A3 Authentic student formulated questions help "turn the page" of the storyline
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/N83b83X6MI
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Q3: What role do questions play in the development of unit storylines?
#NGSSchat
physicsedu2
Jul 7 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A3: Questions are the cliff hangers that keep Ss coming back for more.
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
@FredEnde
@cdepatie1
Phenomena as antagonists reminds me a bit of Latour and Pickering here
#sciencestudiesrocks
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Love this!
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/FDNtSkN9Wv
mrshigginsri
Jul 7 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A3 Qs help the T to guide Ss to think of ideas staying on track. Like cryptic clues in treasure hunt that have to be figured out
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@gablejen
@Ted_NSTA
@mnovakccl
@VogelWendi
Yes. We are all on the same ship. Why not take turns steering/directing?
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Q4: How is the storyline approach different from past practices centered around inquiry?
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@ratzelster
Ss encounter phenomena they don't understand and must engage in practices to make sense of the phenomena
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@richbacolor
Groan. But so real, have to address-- how do you?
#NGSSchat
kmgill135
Jul 7 @ 9:42 PM EDT
I use this PQP idea in my storylines
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/GUUiqUXG1X
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@FredEnde
Example swiped from
@reiserbrianj
https://t.co/FfnH7AV7ub
KRScienceLady
Jul 7 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Both! S 2 S discourse critical as well as ?s that discourse allows Ss 2 probe each others ideas, clarify
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/Yc9gpgvtIY
johnlab_ri
Jul 7 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A3 Is it the question or the student discourse as they try to answer the question that drives the storyline
#NGSSchat
VogelWendi
Jul 7 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A3 Ss questions are important. I loved using them in class. Ss more engaged, reason for learning, wanted to find out why.
#NGSSchat
cdepatie1
Jul 7 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A3 Questions guide the direction that storylines take.
#NGSSchat
tahoecramer1
Jul 7 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@misteraycock
agreed but how do Ts especially those with limited Sci background feel comfortable doing this?
#NGSSchat
science_4_all
Jul 7 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A3: it's a mix of predicting what student might ask yet also being prepared to nix the plan in favor of the unexpected
#NGSSchat
richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@Steph4Science
After some calm explanation, all good. But showed the need to talk to Ss and Ps about NGSS.
#NGSSchat
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:43 PM EDT
I might understd things if Ss were narrators
#NGSSchat
I don't c antagonists as acting in these lrning activities.
johannabrown
Jul 7 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Sad I have to duck out! Connected with some great new colleagues. Thanks,
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@tahoecramer1
Agreed! Ss feel like true partners in learning when their questions are the driver
#NGSSchat
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:43 PM EDT
I agree with this.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/0TJhmWeu5a
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@ratzelster
Ss encounter phenomena they don't understand and must engage in practices to make sense of the phenomena
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
@cdepatie1
Why the antagonists? Could they be the protagonist(s)? Are the CCCs ed. notes to previous stories?
#NGSSchat
LPugh3
Jul 7 @ 9:44 PM EDT
@nlrhoades
Exactly! It is important to listen to Ss qs and allow them to engage as scientists/engineers
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/1uhSyNyAL9
nlrhoades
Jul 7 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@LPugh3
This will need to be taught a la SEPs. Getting Ss to generate quality Qs - emphasis on quality over quantity
#NGSSchat
bickd
Jul 7 @ 9:44 PM EDT
@misteraycock
How can I teach 6 grade levels and not have planned lessons and homework and assignments?
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A4: Storylining is different from inquiry-as-practiced, biggest difference is teach concept THEN inquiry
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A4: IMO, previous efforts ignored having Ss make sense of phenomena. Also, exclusive focus on activities
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/ddiQAr2bdA
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Q4: How is the storyline approach different from past practices centered around inquiry?
#NGSSchat
physicsedu2
Jul 7 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A4: Inquiry was more individual labs, SLs are a continuum of learning.
#NGSSchat
jpcostume
Jul 7 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Aaron Hill , Michael Norman ,
#ButFirst
, Sydney McLaughlin ,
#NGSSchat
, Adam Morgan ,
#TeenChoice
, Colon
biologygoddess
Jul 7 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A3 questions reveal Ss interests & depth of understanding, guide instruction
#NGSSchat
AssignmentHelpN
Jul 7 @ 9:45 PM EDT
10 Simple yet Powerful Tools to Kickstart Elearning Classroom
https://t.co/1tLpO4teFl
#NGSSchat
#paedchat
#Reg5Chat
https://t.co/QndO22Rgcv
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Protagnoists 4 the leading characters & I would see that as explanations that Ss cr8
#NGSSchat
and they r championing that.
misteraycock
Jul 7 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Many don't yet-but through coaching and shared success well make steady progress!
@tahoecramer1
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:45 PM EDT
@FredEnde
@Ted_NSTA
@cdepatie1
Nature sometimes "stands against" "resists" or "objects" to our inquiries, theories, models
#Latour
#NGSSchat
tahoecramer1
Jul 7 @ 9:45 PM EDT
so hard to validate AND progress through original storyline. My struggle.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/oHRRY4Vx9u
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@tahoecramer1
Agreed! Ss feel like true partners in learning when their questions are the driver
#NGSSchat
kmgill135
Jul 7 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A4: in NGSS we really want Ss to come to a common understanding. Many paths to the same end.
#ngsschat
nlrhoades
Jul 7 @ 9:46 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
Yes, this drove me crazy! The inquiry was wasted if Ss never connected it to anything!
#NGSSchat
MDHJohnson
Jul 7 @ 9:46 PM EDT
@bpenuel
This expresses what I keep encountering with Ts. Learn thru SEPs. Not frontloading and confirming.
#NGSSchat
richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:46 PM EDT
@bpenuel
Took out my phone. Said her child could look up facts. Didn’t need me 4 that. Said real scientists collaborate w/others.
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:46 PM EDT
@mrshigginsri
@VogelWendi
@SamanthaBlau
@Ted_NSTA
Do they have to be? Or is that part of the challenge we face in edu currently?
#NGSSchat
LPugh3
Jul 7 @ 9:46 PM EDT
@gablejen
@bickd
@johannabrownn
We do! I just hope they are assessed the way they are taught.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/cbYqdrj4Ml
gablejen
Jul 7 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@LPugh3
@bickd
@johannabrown
yes we do want our ss to be ready. In 2018 we will have the MISA. 3 YRS of science will be tested
#ngsschat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Thank you to all the
#NGSS
rock stars who are sharing their wonderful work with us!
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/4Uyfa6RvpA
MDHJohnson
Jul 7 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@bpenuel
Thank you for all of your wonderful tools! Helping those of us wandering in the wilderness.
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:46 PM EDT
You are most welcome! Hope they are indeed useful!
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/AY3917Z1gV
MDHJohnson
Jul 7 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@bpenuel
Thank you for all of your wonderful tools! Helping those of us wandering in the wilderness.
#NGSSchat
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:46 PM EDT
@FredEnde
@cdepatie1
My point is that they challenge the students, and that takes some effort. (maybe a bad analogy)
#NGSSchat
KatieBudrow
Jul 7 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A4 Inquiry makes me think of what the student will know. Storyline leads me to look at what the students can do.
#NGSSchat
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Plus what you model has 2 find connection in real world.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/IwT67R6wF4
nlrhoades
Jul 7 @ 9:46 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
Yes, this drove me crazy! The inquiry was wasted if Ss never connected it to anything!
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Lovely. One of our teacher designers said a good phenomenon criterion is "Can't Google the answer"
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/FpJWgEAzAv
richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:46 PM EDT
@bpenuel
Took out my phone. Said her child could look up facts. Didn’t need me 4 that. Said real scientists collaborate w/others.
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Q5. on the way!
#NGSSchat
HenSciTeachR
Jul 7 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A4: Inquiry was not three dimensional. It did not always focus where the student questions could end up.
#NGSSchat
envirojer
Jul 7 @ 9:47 PM EDT
My shift from being a teacher to teaching... Listen to the kids and guide/follow curiosity
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/h5fGp9QibV
science_4_all
Jul 7 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A3: it's a mix of predicting what student might ask yet also being prepared to nix the plan in favor of the unexpected
#NGSSchat
misteraycock
Jul 7 @ 9:47 PM EDT
You should absolutely have planned lessons and HW-planning an effective storylines=careful prediction of the course
@bickd
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Q5: How can storylines and/or driving question boards (DQBs) create a shared mission of figuring out in the classroom?
#NGSSchat
KRScienceLady
Jul 7 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Inquiry. Was often a set of isolated activities, no coherence , Activity Land
#NGSSchat
DaskalosDouglas
Jul 7 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A4 Less prescribed. More Authentic.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/e8NdNrJKgX
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Q4: How is the storyline approach different from past practices centered around inquiry?
#NGSSchat
cdepatie1
Jul 7 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Storylines create connections. Inquiry is more isolated.
#NGSSchat
mr_leonardi
Jul 7 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@TdiShelton
students are discovering answers to THEIR questions. In the past, students were just reproducing an expected result
#ngsschat
mrshigginsri
Jul 7 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Q4 Inquiry was like a collection of short stories that all had the same theme. Storylines are more continuous and coherent
#NGSSchat
krademaker
Jul 7 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A4 It also breaks the 'unit' box teach things when it fits in the story not when it 'DNA' time or 'cell parts' time
#NGSSchat
tarantulamarch
Jul 7 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Q4:compared to open ended inquiry a difference is in the breadcrumbs and strategic use of anchoring and investigative phenomena
#NGSSchat
nlrhoades
Jul 7 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@bpenuel
Ss looked at me incredulously when I allowed notes on a test. Not an issue when the direct answers aren't in there!
#NGSSchat
bickd
Jul 7 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@misteraycock
Good. Because I can feel myself losing my mind.
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Question 5 here!
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/wNJlfK6rMd
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Q5: How can storylines and/or driving question boards (DQBs) create a shared mission of figuring out in the classroom?
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Some teachers describe it as "flipping" the classroom, not in the tech sense, but in leading w a challenge
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/yhBCgEYELC
MDHJohnson
Jul 7 @ 9:46 PM EDT
@bpenuel
This expresses what I keep encountering with Ts. Learn thru SEPs. Not frontloading and confirming.
#NGSSchat
sci_innovations
Jul 7 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@bpenuel
I've also heard ABC (activity before content) with the same idea in mind
#ngsschat
physicsedu2
Jul 7 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@misteraycock
@tahoecramer1
Not only are we reforming how we teach science, we need to reform how we teach science educators
#NGSSchat
envirojer
Jul 7 @ 9:49 PM EDT
That's where Big Questions come in. Tie the birds slid back often. Encourage ss to build connections
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/C3rpofE6cr
tahoecramer1
Jul 7 @ 9:45 PM EDT
so hard to validate AND progress through original storyline. My struggle.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/oHRRY4Vx9u
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@tahoecramer1
Agreed! Ss feel like true partners in learning when their questions are the driver
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@mrshigginsri
Great analogy
#NGSSchat
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@tara
I think u have it.
#NGSSchat
love the notion of breadcrumbs back 2 anchoring something 2 something else.
https://t.co/evNvAYEmYF
tarantulamarch
Jul 7 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Q4:compared to open ended inquiry a difference is in the breadcrumbs and strategic use of anchoring and investigative phenomena
#NGSSchat
VogelWendi
Jul 7 @ 9:50 PM EDT
When theory hits practice. This requires PD time, planning time, and collaboration.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/ItCSuqjICy
bickd
Jul 7 @ 9:44 PM EDT
@misteraycock
How can I teach 6 grade levels and not have planned lessons and homework and assignments?
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Plus, how is the world like testing? In real world, acting intelligently means drawing on resources
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/Wo6VfICxsf
nlrhoades
Jul 7 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@bpenuel
Ss looked at me incredulously when I allowed notes on a test. Not an issue when the direct answers aren't in there!
#NGSSchat
science_4_all
Jul 7 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A3: inquiry tended to lack structure & was often empty- Which paper towel is best? Is not conceptually important
#NGSSchat
dandanscience
Jul 7 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A4 maybe storylines take inquiry up a notch
#bam
allowing enquiring minds to my needed connections
#NGSSchat
mnovakccl
Jul 7 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@FredEnde
#NGSSchat
shared mission statement builds a social contract we are committed to. It's like a constitution
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@sci_innovations
Yes, but I think
#NGSS
challenges the separation here; activity is content-rich
#NGSSchat
richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A5: DQBs help make doing science a public, equitable, social endeavor. We could use more of those right?
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/rMJ88usmKJ
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Q5: How can storylines and/or driving question boards (DQBs) create a shared mission of figuring out in the classroom?
#NGSSchat
MDHJohnson
Jul 7 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A5 Answer in the Q - shared mission.
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
@cdepatie1
Not bad at all! I'm working out various roles/connections. :)
#NGSSchat
VogelWendi
Jul 7 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A4 I don't think that unit planning in inquiry was flexible enough. Even open inquiry didn't occur often.
#NGSSchat
notbrianreiser
Jul 7 @ 9:52 PM EDT
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/qxdgzjsbJq
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Another thing I like about NGSS over "Inquiry" is the 8th practice on Obt, Eval, & Comm Info. I often read to learn
#NGSSchat
mchmiel
Jul 7 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@physicsedu2
@misteraycock
@tahoecramer1
agreed! Same goes for teaching administrators what to look for in quality STEM Ed
#NGSSchat
envirojer
Jul 7 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Ts are woefully unprepared to engaging in inquiry driven lessons. Local Ts collaboration essential.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/14juN4GIfq
science_4_all
Jul 7 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A3: inquiry tended to lack structure & was often empty- Which paper towel is best? Is not conceptually important
#NGSSchat
kmgill135
Jul 7 @ 9:52 PM EDT
My question board allows Ss to see how the pieces of the puzzle fit together and unveil the big picture!
#ngsschat
mnovakccl
Jul 7 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@dandanscience
#ngsschat
or anticipating and necessitating that from students
bickd
Jul 7 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@bpenuel
I'm afraid to flip because I don't want to lose their discovery due to flipping.
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Q6: What are your biggest questions about storylines? What support do you need?
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:53 PM EDT
@richbacolor
It's amazing how making ideas public, and/or writing them down, changes their impact.
#NGSSchat
nlrhoades
Jul 7 @ 9:53 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
Our Media Specialist was invaluable in developing lessons to help Ss master this SEP!
#NGSSchat
MDHJohnson
Jul 7 @ 9:53 PM EDT
@kmgill135
Keeps the learning visual for all. More time to process.
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A5 They can if we use them not just to generate questions, but revisit, refine them and see which ones we've answered
#NGSSchat
KRScienceLady
Jul 7 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Public notes, KLEWS Charts, DBQ boards help students make connections , keeps learning accessible for all
#NGSSchat
mnovakccl
Jul 7 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@envirojer
@science_4_all
#ngsschat
. And why do I care?
kastidham
Jul 7 @ 9:54 PM EDT
#ngss
doesn’t address school science as the fragile box of ideas; but as a window into questioning anything
#NGSSchat
misteraycock
Jul 7 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A well primed class creates a focused DQB that's genuine collection of purposeful S ?s. Experience w/ phenom builds shared vision
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@bickd
I don't think they mean flip in that sense -- it's just "flip the order" of tell then present a question to investigate
#NGSSchat
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:54 PM EDT
overwhelmed
#NGSSchat
worried in getting Ss voice elevated, geting right kind of assessment & doing it with fidelty.
https://t.co/6Y0JZbmcfm
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Q6: What are your biggest questions about storylines? What support do you need?
#NGSSchat
cdepatie1
Jul 7 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Storylines create a shared goal for all the Ss to share. They collaborate on understanding a phenomenon and not completing a lab
#NGSSchat
VogelWendi
Jul 7 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A5 Don't storyline and DQB make the path and learning transparent?
#NGSSchat
richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@FredEnde
Kinda like
#NGSSchat
does for Ts trying to figure out how to make it happen?
#PLN
tjscience
Jul 7 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6: How can I best support teachers in thinking about authentic science when they may not have experienced it yet?
#NGSSchat
nlrhoades
Jul 7 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6: W/ everything NGSS, places to go with samples/examples
#ngsschat
denisehup
Jul 7 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A5: sometimes having others contribute helps you work through a block
#NGSSchat
mr_leonardi
Jul 7 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Driving question boards allow all students' voices to be heard. We need all opinions, ideas, etc. to answer tough questions!
#ngsschat
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Blatant Plug:
@TdiShelton
,
@JenArnswald
& I will address storylines @
#nsta
inst in Reno NV next Friday
https://t.co/0YAAZmPvZ6
#NGSSchat
reiserbrianj
Jul 7 @ 9:55 PM EDT
@TdiShelton
@FredEnde
#NGSSchat
a5 DQB is public record of what we agreed we need to figure out- our honoring of our thinking & a promise
mchmiel
Jul 7 @ 9:55 PM EDT
@science_4_all
Oof! I may have done that one as a student teacher 😳
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:55 PM EDT
@richbacolor
The key though with any chat, is that it needs to lead to action. Otherwise . . .
#NGSSchat
KatieBudrow
Jul 7 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A6 Anybody have any storyline examples they've done and are willing to share? Would love to see! Thanks!
#NGSSchat
kastidham
Jul 7 @ 9:55 PM EDT
@envirojer
@science_4_all
inquiry as a student behavior rather than a “type” of lesson :)
#NGSSchat
ChrisEmbryMohr
Jul 7 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A6 - I want to see more examples of storylines - written & video
#NGSSchat
as well as more examples of phenomenon and how they are used
sci_innovations
Jul 7 @ 9:55 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
See you there!
#ngsschat
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:55 PM EDT
I think u have 2 plan, step away, go back & scrunitize, revise
#NGSSchat
and there isn't enough time.
nlrhoades
Jul 7 @ 9:55 PM EDT
YES!
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/suBeztofeX
KatieBudrow
Jul 7 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A6 Anybody have any storyline examples they've done and are willing to share? Would love to see! Thanks!
#NGSSchat
envirojer
Jul 7 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Collaboration of science Ts to create case studies like what is done by
https://t.co/dA1SLmGOrG
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/EXiqv6924i
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Q6: What are your biggest questions about storylines? What support do you need?
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Help us shape the discussion for our next chat on July 21
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/eNBINDrsSK
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Q6: What are your biggest questions about storylines? What support do you need?
#NGSSchat
tahoecramer1
Jul 7 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6: Keep this PLN going, always learning
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/64fWcQZ8co
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Q6: What are your biggest questions about storylines? What support do you need?
#NGSSchat
tjscience
Jul 7 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6: How can I set up
https://t.co/Im0kHEETja
to best support teacher's needs?
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/VZDmkfQ2RQ
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:56 PM EDT
@VogelWendi
Trasparency leads to the most learning, as we can never truly learn in a vacuum.
#NGSSchat
VogelWendi
Jul 7 @ 9:56 PM EDT
@mnovakccl
I think so. I hope so!
#NGSSchat
richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:56 PM EDT
@notbrianreiser
Hey, this seems an awful lot like the work of the
#NGSSchat
meme king...
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:56 PM EDT
@tjscience
specify what DCIs are addressed
#NGSSchat
bickd
Jul 7 @ 9:56 PM EDT
@KatieBudrow
#NGSSchat
Me too!!
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:56 PM EDT
So challenging...As you saw, we try hard to blend learning and design with teachers, design-as-learning
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/Rt9U343nxc
tjscience
Jul 7 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6: How can I best support teachers in thinking about authentic science when they may not have experienced it yet?
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:56 PM EDT
@reiserbrianj
@TdiShelton
Can we ever stray from a DQB. Can we still honor process but stray from path?
#NGSSchat
tahoecramer1
Jul 7 @ 9:56 PM EDT
See you there!
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/PHXYLpJTim
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Blatant Plug:
@TdiShelton
,
@JenArnswald
& I will address storylines @
#nsta
inst in Reno NV next Friday
https://t.co/0YAAZmPvZ6
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Love this! Culture of learning begins with trust
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/qGlp5d3ek2
reiserbrianj
Jul 7 @ 9:55 PM EDT
@TdiShelton
@FredEnde
#NGSSchat
a5 DQB is public record of what we agreed we need to figure out- our honoring of our thinking & a promise
IrenAdash
Jul 7 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Q5. on the way!
#NGSSchat
MORE >>
https://t.co/hMgdYWjVEn
nlrhoades
Jul 7 @ 9:56 PM EDT
@envirojer
This would be amazing! But we need MS and ES friendly options too!
#NGSSchat
IrenAdash
Jul 7 @ 9:56 PM EDT
My shift from being a teacher to teaching... Listen to the kids and guide/follow curiosity
#NGSSchat
MORE >>
https://t.co/hMgdYWjVEn
MDHJohnson
Jul 7 @ 9:57 PM EDT
@tjscience
Our Ts have found it so helpful! Provides ideas and sparks ideas. Thanks!
#NGSSchat
WisDPIscience
Jul 7 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A6) opportunities for collaborative work on storylines would be nice, guess that might be up to me to make happen
#NGSSchat
VogelWendi
Jul 7 @ 9:57 PM EDT
It isn't how most of us learned. I get that statement all the time.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/2mVOLGb2G4
tjscience
Jul 7 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6: How can I best support teachers in thinking about authentic science when they may not have experienced it yet?
#NGSSchat
LPugh3
Jul 7 @ 9:57 PM EDT
@nlrhoades
especially in elementary where science instruction is limited.
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/ghJ4q5Kzpy
nlrhoades
Jul 7 @ 9:56 PM EDT
@envirojer
This would be amazing! But we need MS and ES friendly options too!
#NGSSchat
KRScienceLady
Jul 7 @ 9:57 PM EDT
I'm always looking for resources to curate..any 5th grade properties of matter or 4th grade waves send my way
#NGSSchat
tahoecramer1
Jul 7 @ 9:58 PM EDT
this is a great site to stir T imagination. Can you include ways to use for storylines? lessons?
#ngsschat
https://t.co/SVA3HtxmGL
tjscience
Jul 7 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6: How can I set up
https://t.co/Im0kHEETja
to best support teacher's needs?
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/VZDmkfQ2RQ
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Great site, Please click on the "How to Use Phenomena," where
@tjscience
has graciously posted our process
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/JPKpWKIrRb
tjscience
Jul 7 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6: How can I set up
https://t.co/Im0kHEETja
to best support teacher's needs?
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/VZDmkfQ2RQ
Ted_NSTA
Jul 7 @ 9:58 PM EDT
I would love to find funding to coordinate development and sharing of storylines on the NGSS@NSTA Hub
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Flash Question: What resources can you share about storylines, or questioning, to support
#NGSS
unit design?
#NGSSchat
ratzelster
Jul 7 @ 9:59 PM EDT
I still think PS is a tough tough strand 4 those of us without lots of "stuff".
#NGSSchat
I keep searching
https://t.co/fUeXwzuT2I
KRScienceLady
Jul 7 @ 9:57 PM EDT
I'm always looking for resources to curate..any 5th grade properties of matter or 4th grade waves send my way
#NGSSchat
bpenuel
Jul 7 @ 9:59 PM EDT
We need funding agencies to step up in a bigger way, such an opportunity, and it could be missed
#NGSSchat
https://t.co/spqNy2vf80
WisDPIscience
Jul 7 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A6) opportunities for collaborative work on storylines would be nice, guess that might be up to me to make happen
#NGSSchat
tjscience
Jul 7 @ 9:59 PM EDT
@mrshigginsri
There has been a lot of talk about that - but science is K-12 & multi-disciplinary. Works more for talking bundling
#NGSSchat
mnovakccl
Jul 7 @ 9:59 PM EDT
#ngsschat
https://t.co/0dqpJzyEAg
mnovakccl
Jul 7 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@dandanscience
#ngsschat
or anticipating and necessitating that from students
richbacolor
Jul 7 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Truth! Thankfully, many
#NGSSchat
folks do take it to class and share via
@ngssblogs
or other means.
https://t.co/E48Yp8ZZNu
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 7 @ 9:55 PM EDT
@richbacolor
The key though with any chat, is that it needs to lead to action. Otherwise . . .
#NGSSchat
science_4_all
Jul 7 @ 9:59 PM EDT
A6: how can we support k-5 system in developing & using thoughtful storylines? So many are looking for quick stand alone lessons
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MDHJohnson
Jul 7 @ 9:59 PM EDT
@Ted_NSTA
That would be great - plus someone to provide feedback on struggling ideas.
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biologygoddess
Jul 7 @ 9:59 PM EDT
@FredEnde
@reiserbrianj
@TdiShelton
yes, scientific process evolves and paths can change
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VogelWendi
Jul 7 @ 9:59 PM EDT
A6 Q: What is better? Curriculum or writing selves. I worry we don't have developed skill set as Ts yet to do this well.
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mnovakccl
Jul 7 @ 9:59 PM EDT
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mnovakccl
Jul 7 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@FredEnde
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shared mission statement builds a social contract we are committed to. It's like a constitution
cdepatie1
Jul 7 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Engineering tasks can help drive storylines.
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