#IEedchat Archive
#IEedchat is a great way for Inland Empire (California) educators to share teaching strategies, educational resources, and more.
Monday June 6, 2016
10:30 PM EDT
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Welcome to . Tonight's topic is Summative Assessments
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Q0: Introduce yourself and tells us about the worst Assessment you have ever taken.
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A0:Tom Ashley 's Tech TOSA. Can't remember worst assessment but it is always worst when test doesn't match classwork
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Robert Guzman Tech Coach , worst assessment was Junior year college Physiology Final. 4 hours and my head hurt
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I am at an event and may not be able to talk much. Currently I am a K-8ELA TOA w/an admin future
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A0: Mark Synnott. Tech Coach for . Worst assessment: Every Chemistry test because I was a loser and slept in class.
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. Hi, thanks for joining us, even if you might not be able to be FULLY with us.
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A0: Judy Lane English HHS I didn't do so well on Math CBEST, took it again did better than English LOL
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I use to hate those, I felt like they always asked about stuff they barely covered in class
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A1- my 1st thought was the CSETs because I have yet to find a time when I had to know every possible thing about anything
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I didn't know what was covered in class but you're probably right.
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Q1:Describe the best Summative Assessment you have ever given to students, why do you think it's so effective?
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The learn and purge assessments always suck
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A1: The best assessment I have given to students was a combination multiple choice, essay and semester project in Biology
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A1: I asked my reading students to write an alternate ending to "The Outsiders". Their creations told me much.
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My best assessments in the classroom were when I worked with the Ss to find ways to see what they know based on how they learn
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I always got a kick when you let them alter things and let their imagination run wild.
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A1: The best I've done is open-ended, easy to access, and usually involves some sort of bad humor https://t.co/8BTTsW6vur
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I constantly assess them with questions through class and then they say why I ask them so many q's
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SO important in informing instruction
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It showed me how much they knew the story and their improvements in grammar and spelling (pre spelling check).
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All teachers have an inner comedian inside and if they don't they need to find or create one.
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A1: gave one last year collaborative groups: choice of modern lit, choice of assessment/presentation
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I love that because then they start asking ?s too
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Q1b: Any advice or resources you would like to share with new and future teachers about Summative Assessments?
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A1b: See that was easy...next Q
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So true, if you can't laugh at what you do, find something that does make you laugh
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A1B: Ask other teachers and find what is the best fit for your Ss and your classes
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A0: worst for me was a Brit Lit test in college. Struggled to connect a lot of it.
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A1: Hard to call it the best, but Ioved how I got my Ss ready for benchmarks and EOLs.
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Talk to your students long b4 summarize assessments. Quiet classes don't tell you anything https://t.co/SlBaF3z80e
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Q1b: Any advice or resources you would like to share with new and future teachers about Summative Assessments?
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A1b: If you can't answer a test question you are giving your students then it probably shouldn't be on the test.
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A1b. Yes, don't over-rely on them. Be holistic.
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They think something is wrong when you communicate with them. I reassure them that it's what we are suppose to do
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Test writing 101, I think you should teach this course (:
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A1: best summarize for me was a whole system of cumulative tests throughout semester. Built better retention throughout semester.
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What did that look like for your class?
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A1b: advice: collaboration, PLN, duh
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Q2:What are your thoughts on SBAC testing and moving toward National Standard Based Assessments?
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Is it strange that this may not be obvious to many Ts not on Twitter?
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It's surprising how much stuff changes once you get on this twitter
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A2 Standards, SBAC, etc don't really matter, if we cannot inform and impact instruction. I do hate using high tests to measure
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So true, I'm so much better because of my , especially here from
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A2:Standards are very important, but Nationalized ones make it a bit hard for some. All Ss should be meeting the same goals.
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A2: many thoughts! 11th grade Eng T- have my scores back: much work to do-hope students get help from all Ts
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A2- like w/any assessment we can't rely on just the SBAC. It has a place but it should only be a small measure of knowledge
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Should we be focusing on 9th and 10th since they will eventually be the next batch
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A2: I'm not a big fan of tests. Almost everybody passes a driving test and many still drive like idiots.
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What about standards make them very important? Like is it the accountability component you refer too?
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A2: from what I've seen SBAC seems to be improving, and has good challenge.
Key = balancing the big assessments w other measures.
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How might we get better together?
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I think as a guide to make sure we keep things in sight, but reality is that all classes and Ss are different
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Thank you for stating, more eloquently than I, the importance here, isn't test but Ss learning
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A2:I'm for high standards & enlightened assessments, but I hate the enigmatic feeling of where we all are right now w/assessments
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True, I like to think of standards as a check on where Ss should be at, but important to foster curiosity vs score
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Q3:How do you feel about the use of Project Based Learning in your classes and what effect can it have on Summative Assessments?
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Literacy in all content areas the PTs are written, Ss didn't get it.
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Interesting, could you elaborate more?
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Absolutely, I use it as a gauge where they could be. I always want to see growth, but it doesn't always happen.
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I'm huge advocate of literacy. Why is it so challenging to imbed these elements in all content?
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I started teaching at a PBL school AND I LOVED IT! I learned a lot more about my Ss knowledge all around https://t.co/2zO9XzB8dR
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Q3:How do you feel about the use of Project Based Learning in your classes and what effect can it have on Summative Assessments?
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True, I am willing to bet some Ss, like me, don't experience growth linearly, but rather exponentially...
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A3: PBL if done correctly can help students enhance their Critical Thinking which can impact their learning and application of it
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Test assumes linearity among learners, not always the case.
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A3: gut reaction is PBL assessment is significantly more complex.
Second reaction = feels like diverse measures which is good.
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A3: My students make amazing projects in our and teach me but fail some traditional classes at the same time.
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use to be a big push, need to go there again
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Sounds easy, but it is more complex as you stated
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A3: PBL is super valuable IF it is well designed & can help to balance/reinforce and inform you understanding of Ss mastery.
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How might we sell it to get others involved? Could we start w/small cohort?
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A3: Students learn differently because humans learn differently. Sometimes we forget that they are people.
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I'm teaching 2 classes 1 MS, 1 HS, next year..interested in expanding your PLN to do some literacy?
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Q3b:Is SBAC here to stay, give us your thoughts?
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A3b: SBAC, no se, pero accountability is here through testing, and hopefully other measures is staying
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A3b: I have been in Ed for 11 years and it's like Herodotus said it's all cyclical
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How might we define the cyclic nature to be better for Ss and learning?
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A ton of planning and cooperation goes into PBL - for all involved
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Create autonomy during collaboration and site-level PLCs. Top-down agendas and walk-throughs do not help
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I think there are factors that just keep things changing that dont consider the education of Ss
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Any final thoughts on Summative Assessments?
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FT I'm always like...I love this group of amazing folks thank you for encouraging me to be better together https://t.co/4K84qQq1a0
